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The Breakfast Club Best Of Episode(Jada Pinkett Smith Interview, Jemele Hill Interview, Can You Take Your Wife's Last Name? Thoughts On Platonic Relationship?) · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Listen to every single day. Ye reakfast Club. God, damn it,
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  Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: What that ass up on the Breakfast Club?
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  Speaker 3: Brady, I can't say breakfast club without the Reckless Club.
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  Speaker 4: You're like this rare air.
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  Speaker 1: She got platforms and partners all over the place because
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  Speaker 1: your man is so high.
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  Speaker 5: People want to be in listens with the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think white people know how popular you guys are.
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  Speaker 5: DJ Envy, Charlemagne the guy. You guys really are like
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  Speaker 5: the hip hop early morning late night talk.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all know what you'all talking about. It's a moody. Is
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  Speaker 1: it your time to get it off your chest?
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  Speaker 6: Wait, whether you're mad or blessed something, to get up
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  Speaker 6: and get something?
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  Speaker 3: Call up now eight hundred five eighty five one O
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  Speaker 3: five one. We want to hear from you on the
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  Speaker 3: Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Ray, What Updrey?
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  Speaker 7: What up?
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  Speaker 8: Man?
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  Speaker 1: You don't know if your.
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  Speaker 9: Chests brother, Oh, I got this little for them, she'd
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  Speaker 9: be clocking me.
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  Speaker 5: She my mother.
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  Speaker 10: I always think I'm trying to cheat.
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  Speaker 11: When I'm just going to the store, like well.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, you can't, Curtis. The second of all,
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  Speaker 1: did you cheat before?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah? I cheated?
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  Speaker 5: Before come on, I'll tell you what else to that
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  Speaker 5: little girlfriend of yours is a big girlfriend to somebody
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  Speaker 5: else whoa.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, you can't talk.
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  Speaker 5: You can't talk about it like that though. You see
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  Speaker 5: your little girlfriend? What you mean? That's that's what I
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  Speaker 5: say to you when I'm trying to insult you. I
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  Speaker 5: see what your little girlfriend. How you gonna say that
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  Speaker 5: about yourself?
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  Speaker 7: That's a fact, that's the fact.
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  Speaker 5: You're right.
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  Speaker 11: But still though, like she's just always copping me, coccoosing
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  Speaker 11: me and cheating when I'm literally trying to be faithful,
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  Speaker 11: Like she's gonna push me to go cheating.
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  Speaker 1: You cheat it twice, so she gotta watch you. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: that's a fact.
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  Speaker 12: But that's back in the day.
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  Speaker 6: Though.
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  Speaker 7: Bro, Oh my goodness, it's.
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  Speaker 5: Not that hard, sir, not at all. You violated her trust.
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  Speaker 11: And if not, and I've been trying to make that
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  Speaker 11: trust up, but she just keep on keep on keeping
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  Speaker 11: going with it, like you're gonna forgive me and be
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  Speaker 11: with me, or you're gonna keep on accusing me, Like,
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  Speaker 11: which what are we doing now?
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  Speaker 1: If you keep talking like we did? Give it is
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  Speaker 1: to heal you cheated twice? And then she asked you
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  Speaker 1: a question. You're like, just get over it. That ain't
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  Speaker 1: gonna work.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll be I mean, I'll be trying to be
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  Speaker 11: reasonable with her, Like I get while you excuse me,
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  Speaker 11: get while you feel it how you feel.
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  Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, you chose to
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  Speaker 9: get back with me.
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  Speaker 1: Trade was the last time you cheated?
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  Speaker 12: Trade?
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  Speaker 10: Like five months ago?
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  Speaker 1: He said? Mad long ago?
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  Speaker 5: Hey man, trade have a blood day trip?
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  Speaker 1: John was mad long ago? How long?
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  Speaker 5: Five months?
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  Speaker 8: Like?
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  Speaker 5: Knock it off?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Hello, who's this?
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  Speaker 13: Hey, good morning. It's Tasha from Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Tasha from Brooklyn. Get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 14: So I just want to say how upset I am
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  Speaker 14: about the maternity to leave here in New York. I
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  Speaker 14: just had a baby in July, and I'm expected to
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  Speaker 14: go back to work after twelve weeks.
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  Speaker 12: And it sucks.
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  Speaker 14: You know, it's not enough bonding time that we get
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  Speaker 14: with our childress.
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  Speaker 5: How long is it?
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  Speaker 13: It's only twelve weeks.
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  Speaker 14: It's literally three months and my daughter just turned three
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  Speaker 14: months and I'm expected to return to work already after
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  Speaker 14: three months. So they only give you, said, they only
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  Speaker 14: pay you for twelve weeks. You can stay out longer,
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  Speaker 14: but it will be without pay. So I'm not returning
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  Speaker 14: to work until next year, so all of this time
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  Speaker 14: will be without pay. Other countries, well, I'm going to
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  Speaker 14: take so you have job security for up to a year.
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  Speaker 14: If I work for the city, my position is safe
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  Speaker 14: for up to a year. But after the twelve weeks,
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  Speaker 14: I won't get paid. So I decided I'll just take
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  Speaker 14: six months. It gives me a little bit more time
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  Speaker 14: to bond with her and her to get to just
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  Speaker 14: know her environment before I put her like with.
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  Speaker 12: A baby, sit up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 14: The funny thing about it is I have two older children,
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  Speaker 14: and I had my seventeen year old daughter when I
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  Speaker 14: was really young, and.
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  Speaker 13: I went back to week, I went back to work
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  Speaker 13: a week.
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  Speaker 14: Later, you know, just not even recognizing or realizing how
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  Speaker 14: important it is to bond with your kid in these
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  Speaker 14: you know, first couple of months. But I think we
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  Speaker 14: could do better. It's so much, it's so much policies
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  Speaker 14: that could be put into place, especially for black women,
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  Speaker 14: and the maternal rate is so high, the death maternal.
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  Speaker 13: Rate is so high.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, I just wanted to throw that out here.
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  Speaker 1: See, I see both sides because I understand you want
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  Speaker 1: to bond with the kids, and that's that's very especially
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  Speaker 1: the first year. It's very well needed. But also i'm
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  Speaker 1: you know, from a workplace. I mean, they got to
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  Speaker 1: pay somebody. They can't continue to pay you for a
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  Speaker 1: full year and not have somebody feel that position, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So I see both sides, you know. Or maybe if
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  Speaker 1: you're able to allow to work at home where that
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  Speaker 1: way you can still spend time with your baby at
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  Speaker 1: home and you can do a little work at home,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's some position where you can't
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  Speaker 13: stay at home. My position, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 14: I need to be in the office.
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  Speaker 13: But it's it's not even actually called maternity lead.
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  Speaker 14: It's called excellently like family medical administrative lead. So if
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  Speaker 14: that's the case, I think like something could figure out.
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  Speaker 12: You know.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, enjoy that baby, love that baby. They
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  Speaker 1: get big so damn fast.
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  Speaker 13: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Have a good one.
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  Speaker 11: Guy.
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  Speaker 1: What's the baby's name?
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  Speaker 13: Her name is Shiloh. Shout out to my baby.
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  Speaker 14: Shout out to Nila, Shout out to Anthony.
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  Speaker 13: Those are my kids.
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  Speaker 14: Shout out to my husband on Nil.
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  Speaker 13: Shout out to you guys.
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  Speaker 14: Y'all, so follow me and you my men's and them,
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  Speaker 14: envy you my men's and them. I love y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Let you get it off your chest eight hundred five
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  Speaker 1: eighty five one five one. If you need to be
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  Speaker 1: hit us up now it's the breakfast club.
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  Speaker 3: The morning, the breakfast club. This is your time to
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  Speaker 3: get it off your chest. Undred five five five one.
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  Speaker 3: We want to hear from you on the breakfast club.
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  Speaker 4: Hello. Who's his?
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  Speaker 5: Hey Derek, Hey Derek?
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  Speaker 1: What get her off your chest?
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  Speaker 6: Hey? I got something on my chest?
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 6: I want to talk about the price of a good man.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, So I don't know a.
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  Speaker 6: Good man that doesn't have an empty wallet and a
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  Speaker 6: broken fact. But now you get you get that, you
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  Speaker 6: get you a bad man. They got a pocket full
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  Speaker 6: of money and they take me.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like me, I'm not bad.
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  Speaker 6: Well, hey, I'm just saying you be nod. But you
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  Speaker 6: don't hear about good women anymore.
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  Speaker 5: That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: What's your definition of a good woman? You just told
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  Speaker 1: us our definition of a good man. What's a good woman?
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  Speaker 6: If a good woman is the old day, the old
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  Speaker 6: school women, the ones that take care of the home,
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  Speaker 6: take care of you know, women don't watch this is normal.
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  Speaker 6: They don't play the house no more. They don't do
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  Speaker 6: none of those things.
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  Speaker 5: That's not true. I'm gonna tell you something, man, I
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  Speaker 5: got a plethora of amazing sisters around me that do both.
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  Speaker 5: They know how to navigate in the corporate world and
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  Speaker 5: get their money, and they know how to be domesticated
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  Speaker 5: at home, you know, and they always got to be
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  Speaker 5: to hook them up with people. And I'll be like no,
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  Speaker 5: because I don't know no brothers, men like a worthy
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  Speaker 5: and I don't even like to get involved in my
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  Speaker 5: friends relationships like that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, what generation are they in.
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  Speaker 5: Late thirties forty five that the generate new generation got dishwashers?
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  Speaker 1: Do y'all really want women washing?
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  Speaker 5: That's true too.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to walk by seeing anybody washing dishes.
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  Speaker 5: Put them in a dishwashers, keep it pushing. That's true too.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm just staying. I've been married for twenty five
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  Speaker 6: years and I've been, you know, a good man, and
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  Speaker 6: I tell you what, everyone in my body's hurting.
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  Speaker 1: Damn Well, Derek, you need to get an ask in
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  Speaker 1: the dishwashing time.
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  Speaker 6: But at the same time, you say that's the thirty
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  Speaker 6: year olds. Well, you don't know. You don't realize it
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  Speaker 6: until your bout forty or fifty. That's when all of
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  Speaker 6: that's when everything starts hurting and you start noticing that
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  Speaker 6: your wallace.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah that's just age though.
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  Speaker 6: Broll and after twenty five years of marriage of every
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  Speaker 6: bone in your body is hurting.
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  Speaker 1: She's still doing her job.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm bum boom your bones are hurting because you're
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  Speaker 6: doing everything around the house, and you're doing all the work.
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  Speaker 5: You have a particular age.
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  Speaker 1: You missed the bone jokes the bone Joe.
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  Speaker 9: Ah, man, I missed the phone joke.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was talking about the other bone, bro. But
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  Speaker 1: does that bone still work? That's all that matters.
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  Speaker 6: Oh man, that's the thing about it. It works better
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  Speaker 6: than my movie.
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  Speaker 1: But in my back where you better be appy because
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of brothers out there and there Fortyes,
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  Speaker 1: that bones don't work, bro, but also.
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  Speaker 6: Brothers know that everything stops. Wants to get married after
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  Speaker 6: about fifteen years.
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong? You just missed the negative this morning?
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  Speaker 9: Brother, h No, I'm wise, wise and in a good movie.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well you have a good one, mister, good move.
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  Speaker 6: And of my pipy and you know we know people.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all astrological signs people, He's okay, I'm the
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  Speaker 5: only afthroological sign that knows some people.
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  Speaker 1: He said, a great day. All right, Hello, who's this?
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  Speaker 14: Hey?
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  Speaker 5: What's up?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 6: This twan?
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  Speaker 1: Twan?
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  Speaker 7: What up?
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  Speaker 1: Getting off your chest? Twong?
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  Speaker 6: No, ma'am, I'm just wanted to say that.
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  Speaker 9: First of all, I'm glad that I finally got through
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  Speaker 9: drive in the fandy y'all for the longest time.
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  Speaker 10: But now I'm head of the work and he's truck.
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  Speaker 10: I was trying to up the road.
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  Speaker 5: You're trying to run you off the road. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 5: be honest with your truck drivers. Be driving like they
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  Speaker 5: just pushing around han days nowadays. I don't know who
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  Speaker 5: told truck drivers that they got electric cars, but they don't.
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  Speaker 5: They still got big mac trucks and they need to
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  Speaker 5: drive as such.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 9: Man, Let me get a lane.
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  Speaker 5: Let me get a laid Now they ridiculous. I'm not
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  Speaker 5: gonna front. Truck drivers are very very ridiculous nowaday. Even
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  Speaker 5: the way they cut over in the lanes. Now they
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  Speaker 5: act like they have cars. It's weird.
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  Speaker 1: Move out to give me a blink or something. Give
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  Speaker 1: me a blink or something, and salute to all the
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  Speaker 1: truck drivers out there. Man, y'all be safe out there
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, some of them do be disrespectful. Angle front.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, man, thank you man.
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  Speaker 1: Have it going, brother, get it off your chest. Eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred five e five one oh five one. If you
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  Speaker 1: need the vent phone lines wide open. It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club, parting everybody. It's DJ NV
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  Speaker 1: Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. You got
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  Speaker 1: a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, Mel Hill, welcome back. Hey.
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  Speaker 4: You know I always love to sit with y'all enjoying
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  Speaker 4: the conversations.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, And the paperback is out right now it is.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, my baby is growed up a little bit. It's
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  Speaker 15: now a toddler. I guess.
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  Speaker 10: So.
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  Speaker 4: A year ago the hardcover of my memoir Uphill came out,
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  Speaker 4: and now the paperback.
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  Speaker 5: How was the response to putting out a memoir, because
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  Speaker 5: you know, in memoirs you put out so much information,
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  Speaker 5: you reveal things you probably never told anybody. Well, response,
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  Speaker 5: not just from the general polic but from like your
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  Speaker 5: family and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: The response was generally good. It was mostly positive.
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  Speaker 15: There was somebody in my family who took issue with it,
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  Speaker 15: and that created some tension, and the attention is still there, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 15: and so you know, I'm still processing that part.
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  Speaker 1: They did not have a conversation before.
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  Speaker 15: We did have a conversation before, but I just didn't
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  Speaker 15: think how they reacted to it would be the way
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  Speaker 15: they reacted. And they took it to Facebook as opposed
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  Speaker 15: to taking it to me. Yeah, and then they aired
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  Speaker 15: out stuff that was not even in the book, and
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  Speaker 15: it was like.
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  Speaker 5: Why and probably stuff that wasn't true.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, some of it was definitely I looked at very skeptically,
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  Speaker 15: and it wasn't about me. It was it was about
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  Speaker 15: my mom, to be candid, and so I was not
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  Speaker 15: happy that that was the course of action that they chose,
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  Speaker 15: and so it caused a fracture in our relationship.
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  Speaker 5: Of My first book was the same thing, and family was, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I can't write a book, but I can go to Facebook,
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  Speaker 5: right exactly.
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  Speaker 15: You know, And especially it's not like this person couldn't
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  Speaker 15: have called me like they could have and we could
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  Speaker 15: have had a conversation about it. And I guess the
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  Speaker 15: surprising part they didn't take issue with what was written
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  Speaker 15: as in terms of like it not being true. The
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  Speaker 15: issue was when we finally did have that discussion, was
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  Speaker 15: that they weren't in it enough.
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  Speaker 1: So that really so they wanted side out there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 15: Oh, they just felt like they should have been you know,
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  Speaker 15: that their role in my life should have been more
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  Speaker 15: highlighted or more And I thought I did a pretty
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  Speaker 15: good job of it as it was, but apparently it
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  Speaker 15: was not on part with this person.
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  Speaker 4: And so yeah, with they.
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  Speaker 5: Roll in your life as big as they actually thought.
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  Speaker 15: It was, well, I mean, I guess if you want
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  Speaker 15: me to say what it is, because I see you're
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  Speaker 15: getting to But it was my father.
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  Speaker 4: Who had an issue. Oh yeah, that was my father
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  Speaker 4: had an issue.
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  Speaker 15: With some of the things that were in the book,
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  Speaker 15: not necessarily because they were untrue, but he felt like
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  Speaker 15: he should have been more prominently featured in the book.
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  Speaker 4: That was what I got from it, and so I
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't.
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  Speaker 15: It was a very difficult conversation to have, and so
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  Speaker 15: those conversations have been somewhat ongoing, and I told him
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  Speaker 15: I needed to kind of press pause because I need
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  Speaker 15: to process what you said to me.
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  Speaker 4: Because I took a lot of issue with it.
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  Speaker 5: Now do you think, what do you think a second
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  Speaker 5: Jamel Hill book would be about?
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  Speaker 15: Well, there will be another Jamael Hill book, and it
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  Speaker 15: is much like this memoir of something I didn't expect
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  Speaker 15: to write.
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  Speaker 4: But the second book will be a children's book.
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  Speaker 15: Oh yeah, So I'm writing a children's book and it
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  Speaker 15: will cover some parts of Uphill, like just kind of
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  Speaker 15: you know, how I was it able to overcome some
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  Speaker 15: adversity and some of the more positive career stuff like,
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  Speaker 15: some of that will be part of it. But generally speaking,
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  Speaker 15: it will be sort of like my love letter to
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  Speaker 15: a lot of the women whose stories haven't been told,
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  Speaker 15: a lot of the women who I've admired, and so
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  Speaker 15: it'll I'm really looking forward to.
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  Speaker 4: I've never written.
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  Speaker 15: Before a children's audience before, so this will be quite
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  Speaker 15: a challenge. It'll be the opposite almost from a memoir,
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  Speaker 15: because you're pouring everything into this book, and you know,
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  Speaker 15: it's like two hundred and fifty three hundred pages and
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  Speaker 15: of children's book. You have to be quite concise, and
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  Speaker 15: you have to make sure that they understand the general
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  Speaker 15: themes that.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to be about.
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  Speaker 15: Yet yeah, I mean it, it'll be a combination of
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  Speaker 15: my story and the stories of women whose stories need
• 12:35
  Speaker 15: to be told. And you know women I've admired. So yeah,
• 12:37
  Speaker 15: some of them famous, some of them not as famous
• 12:39
  Speaker 15: as others. I mean, I'm trying to like really unearthed
• 12:42
  Speaker 15: and tell the stories of some women who probably didn't
• 12:44
  Speaker 15: get the flowers that they deserved.
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: Gotcha. Yeah, we just had an off set up here
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: and you had some words about his and if you
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: would hyping out something off the podcaster and you said,
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: you feel like this is a racing real hip hop journalism.
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah I do.
• 13:00
  Speaker 15: I mean, listen, I admit I'm spoiled. It's like when
• 13:03
  Speaker 15: when hip hop was really coming into his own and growing.
• 13:06
  Speaker 15: You know, that's when you had Vibe, you had Kevin
• 13:08
  Speaker 15: Powell and Dreamampton and Danielle Smith, and there was like
• 13:11
  Speaker 15: a real hip hop journalism sort of movement there that
• 13:14
  Speaker 15: covered the culture, that cover theists, artists tried to tell
• 13:17
  Speaker 15: the full three sixty dimensions of their stories. And as
• 13:20
  Speaker 15: you know, you know, mainstream media wasn't messing with hip
• 13:23
  Speaker 15: hop like that. They weren't telling these stories. And so
• 13:25
  Speaker 15: now it's just interesting to me the platforms they wind
• 13:28
  Speaker 15: up on, Like look, at sexy Red, like why was
• 13:30
  Speaker 15: she on that podcast? But what you know with THEO
• 13:33
  Speaker 15: like that, does that seem like the type of podcast
• 13:35
  Speaker 15: that you would expect sexy Red to be on.
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: Probably not, I don't know.
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: Interesting Mark on the one day one time and he
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: was talking, he was talking about how sexy that's.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: What Charlamage cares about. Fact, that's all.
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: Like a whole five.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Not blushing it but I think you were.
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: A beautiful man. He was like, I'm like living, I'm blushing.
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: That compliment is a compliment. I was.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: I was like, wow, not blessing.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: He's so silly to take him on the.
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: Date lady features, I promise you that's what you were saying.
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: He remembers every live I do. I do, but I don't.
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know what the old angles is what.
• 14:17
  Speaker 15: I'm yeah, I mean he's had an eclectic group of guests,
• 14:20
  Speaker 15: so I guess maybe from that standpoint, you could say
• 14:22
  Speaker 15: that she fits. But it's just I when I watched
• 14:26
  Speaker 15: that interaction and I get it. I know what her
• 14:28
  Speaker 15: stick is a lot of it. As many people say,
• 14:31
  Speaker 15: like she clearly borrowed some of this from Funny Marco,
• 14:33
  Speaker 15: who actually think does it pretty well, yeah, like he
• 14:36
  Speaker 15: he has, he's got a good thing going and her
• 14:40
  Speaker 15: I guess looking at her rise, it was kind of
• 14:43
  Speaker 15: curious to me, like her podcast has not been existing
• 14:45
  Speaker 15: enough for that long. I think the way the story
• 14:47
  Speaker 15: was told was like Drake saw her on TikTok. I
• 14:50
  Speaker 15: think ye on TikTok, but she was with Funny Marco.
• 14:52
  Speaker 15: I think that's the interview that he saw. That's at
• 14:54
  Speaker 15: least that's sort of what's been reported and out there,
• 14:57
  Speaker 15: and then he just up and decided, you know, hey,
• 14:59
  Speaker 15: I'm just going this random podcast, which he has every
• 15:01
  Speaker 15: right to do. But when I look about who are
• 15:03
  Speaker 15: the caretakers of hip hop, the caretakers of how this
• 15:06
  Speaker 15: culture is covered, it's us, you know, for the most part.
• 15:10
  Speaker 15: That's not to say the OFFSET can't do interviews with
• 15:12
  Speaker 15: people outside the culture, but I notice how those interviews
• 15:15
  Speaker 15: are received and for that matter, how they're treated on
• 15:18
  Speaker 15: those interviews, and it makes me concerned overall. Honestly, I
• 15:21
  Speaker 15: know a lot a ton of black journalists who could
• 15:24
  Speaker 15: go who could use that kind of boost, and to me,
• 15:27
  Speaker 15: especially given we see the danger of when our stories
• 15:31
  Speaker 15: aren't told and they're trying to erase our stories in
• 15:33
  Speaker 15: real time. I would like to see artists like him,
• 15:36
  Speaker 15: artists like Drake, other Black artists in general, be more
• 15:39
  Speaker 15: intentional about the type of media that they try to
• 15:42
  Speaker 15: do right, Like that's why Breakfast Club has the status
• 15:45
  Speaker 15: and the stature that it does, because this is a
• 15:47
  Speaker 15: place that has been established for the culture.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: And it would be nice.
• 15:51
  Speaker 15: If some of these artists understood that there's something larger
• 15:54
  Speaker 15: at play than just going viral.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I will on't go anywhere. We got more with Jamil Hill.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast logan morning, the Breakfast Club.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Everybody's DJ n V.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Charlamagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: kicking it. Very insightful with Jamel Hill this morning, Charlamagne.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: I do miss your sports takes, Jamail. I talked about
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: this all the time.
• 16:15
  Speaker 15: Let me tell you this, Charlote made I think you
• 16:18
  Speaker 15: deserve You should give me credit because it took a
• 16:21
  Speaker 15: lot for me to resist texting you the day my
• 16:23
  Speaker 15: forty nine ers just play. Just beat the breaks off, y'all,
• 16:29
  Speaker 15: because because I knew this was I would see him
• 16:32
  Speaker 15: in person.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: And I told you.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: If I had your number, I would have called you.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I would have put you in just for five minutes
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: to like, do you have something to say when the wash.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: Them Californies feel like, are you happy to see that? Jamail?
• 16:47
  Speaker 15: It ain't about like what I was just like, yeah,
• 16:53
  Speaker 15: we are problem, but we are a problem for most
• 16:55
  Speaker 15: of them. We knew that, we knew that everybody, but
• 16:57
  Speaker 15: we are a problem for Dallas specifically.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 17:00
  Speaker 15: So when I when that, when I saw the final
• 17:02
  Speaker 15: score because I missed most of the game because I
• 17:04
  Speaker 15: had to ask some other things to do, but I
• 17:07
  Speaker 15: knew we were gonna win.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I just didn't think it was gonna be like that
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: was I said, you.
• 17:11
  Speaker 15: Know what I'm gonna I'm gonna give Charlam made some
• 17:14
  Speaker 15: some privacy, you know, some talks and prayers, and then
• 17:16
  Speaker 15: when I see him in person, be like you boys.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: No, that was the moral the first two weeks. I'm like, yeah,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: we're going to the super Bowl. You know I say
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: that every year. Yeah, you know, you went the lost
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: of the Cars, so that's nothing right going to Super
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Bowl against New England. Going to Super Bowl? What was weak?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like his daddy texting them and said, Charlam mane,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: were really going to the Super Bowl? Buy your tickets?
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just the belief is so hard.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: That's been a different conversation. Yeah, this is depressing. Let's
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: go back to one one of the topics. Okay, THEO
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Vaughn and Sexy Red all right talking, We talked about
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: it up a couple of times. What about that interview
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: is so upsetting, Like there's gonna need to beat up
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: on her Sexy Red.
• 17:54
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that anybody was rushing
• 17:57
  Speaker 15: to hear, you know, what her political texts were. But
• 17:59
  Speaker 15: the problem with is, like the misinformation. It wasn't that
• 18:02
  Speaker 15: she gave her political take. She's allowed to give her
• 18:04
  Speaker 15: political tape. She could have said I supported Trump and
• 18:07
  Speaker 15: listed off the reasons that actually made a little bit
• 18:10
  Speaker 15: more sense. Yeah, she could have said that, because it's
• 18:13
  Speaker 15: her right to have that opinion. But it's the misinformation
• 18:16
  Speaker 15: that is what I see is to be more dangerous
• 18:19
  Speaker 15: when you have that kind of platform, because like it
• 18:21
  Speaker 15: or not, people aren't going to listen to her. And
• 18:23
  Speaker 15: even though you know she's talked about they love Trump
• 18:25
  Speaker 15: in the hood. I was like, well, Poles don't really
• 18:27
  Speaker 15: show that, but that's okay, go ahead, go off, And
• 18:30
  Speaker 15: so I took the opportunity to your point, I saw
• 18:32
  Speaker 15: it as a teachable moment because, as you said, there
• 18:34
  Speaker 15: are some people who do say the same things. Let's
• 18:36
  Speaker 15: deal with what's being said. Even though Donald Trump's name
• 18:39
  Speaker 15: were on that stimulus tech, he did not the money
• 18:42
  Speaker 15: did not come from it me. It didn't come right
• 18:44
  Speaker 15: out of his bank account. It was passed by congress people.
• 18:47
  Speaker 15: And that's part of the general collective ignorance that we have.
• 18:50
  Speaker 15: A lot of us don't know how government works. There's
• 18:53
  Speaker 15: no shame in that because it is a complicated system.
• 18:56
  Speaker 15: But we have to understand how legislation has passed, how
• 18:59
  Speaker 15: policy are made, knowing the right person to be mad at,
• 19:02
  Speaker 15: because a lot of the things that people are mad at,
• 19:04
  Speaker 15: you know, inflation, other things.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I was like, the president doesn't have a whole lot.
• 19:08
  Speaker 15: To do with that, and we're in a huge age
• 19:11
  Speaker 15: of corporate greed like we've never seen before. And I
• 19:16
  Speaker 15: wish that we had a better handle on who to blame,
• 19:18
  Speaker 15: because then that would help us better strategize.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: But you know what, I tell the Tellorhood, I'll just
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: be like Biden gave out Stemmys too.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: But that was brilliant though. I was like, I mean,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: no president in the history has ever done that. He's like, no, no, no, no.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: The checks get held up because he was like, no, no,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna need that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 16: Donald J.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Trump on it because he knew, he knew the lasting
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: impact that would have. But you're right, Biden Trump signed
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: signed it in twice. Yeah, signed it in once. Biden
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: gave out Stemmys two. It is. That's the hook. Yeah,
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: that's how you get the sexony reds as all.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: It isn't.
• 19:52
  Speaker 15: And unfortunately the other part of it is that the
• 19:55
  Speaker 15: amount of media machinery behind the right wing there's no
• 20:00
  Speaker 15: democratic equivalent. I hope somebody in her camp or somebody
• 20:04
  Speaker 15: period pulled her aside and said, hey, here are the issues.
• 20:07
  Speaker 15: If you're gonna speak about these, and if you're gonna
• 20:09
  Speaker 15: take a pro tramp position, at least if you're gonna
• 20:11
  Speaker 15: take one, take one that is a little more informative
• 20:14
  Speaker 15: than the one that know your facts, know your facts.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: And people just like to be entertained nowadays. Two, I
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: bet you said you're not redister voute.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I mean that would have been like a great follow
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: up to be like, oh, so.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Are you registered to vote?
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Are do you planning to vote for him?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: In the next election.
• 20:26
  Speaker 15: That would have been something to bring up with her,
• 20:29
  Speaker 15: but I guarantee that might be the last political question
• 20:31
  Speaker 15: she for quite some time.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: One more question, You still think that get Helly's racist?
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Would say that was the reason for it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know why you said that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: You thought she was racist, but not wanting com Vice
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: President Harry.
• 20:45
  Speaker 15: No, So it's not that because again, like in politics,
• 20:49
  Speaker 15: you're not gonna agree with who needs to be the leader.
• 20:50
  Speaker 15: It's not the general disagreement that I think people took
• 20:52
  Speaker 15: it that way. I'm not calling her a flat out racist,
• 20:55
  Speaker 15: but what I will say is that she's very comfortable
• 20:57
  Speaker 15: using racist dog whistles to further and advance her political position.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: I feel like the biggest opposition Vice President Harris is
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: going to face is going to come from in her
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: own party. Yes, I agree. I think that there's people
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: in her party right now who don't want her to
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: be by president because you see that came out I
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: did in New.
• 21:14
  Speaker 15: York Times, and it's it's the hit pieces that are
• 21:16
  Speaker 15: done on her. It's just I don't I mean, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 15: get it, but I don't get it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: But I had to go google and see, well what
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: did she do? Like I was like it just came
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: out of nowhere long as I mean, and even some
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: of us.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Who are just like, well, what is she doing? Where's
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: she being?
• 21:29
  Speaker 15: Like she literally speaks every day guys like I don't
• 21:32
  Speaker 15: know what to tell y'all, Like you're like, where is she?
• 21:33
  Speaker 15: I'm like, uh, because I'm on the mailing list. I
• 21:36
  Speaker 15: get her schedule practically every day. Like she's always doing
• 21:39
  Speaker 15: a lot of things, Like I know right now she's
• 21:42
  Speaker 15: on the college tour, but no, like she's been subjected
• 21:44
  Speaker 15: to a lot of hit pieces and you could tell
• 21:46
  Speaker 15: their hip pieces because of some of the things they
• 21:48
  Speaker 15: say about her.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: You can tell it from within, and they can.
• 21:50
  Speaker 15: Tell that from within. It's like, because I think in
• 21:52
  Speaker 15: that is this. This is the article that mentioned how
• 21:55
  Speaker 15: much time she spends on her hair.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: On her hair, Like are you serious?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Like that's what we do?
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Like on her air, like she's a black woman.
• 22:03
  Speaker 15: I bet she is going to spend some time on
• 22:05
  Speaker 15: her air because the moment she doesn't look presentable, guess
• 22:07
  Speaker 15: what the conversation is going to be about the vice president.
• 22:10
  Speaker 15: So it's like she's damned if she did does damned
• 22:13
  Speaker 15: if she doesn't. She's caught in a really type position,
• 22:15
  Speaker 15: and I feel like it is really it's really neutering
• 22:21
  Speaker 15: what I think makes her such a strong politician. And
• 22:24
  Speaker 15: like it or not, Joe Biden would not have gotten
• 22:26
  Speaker 15: elected without her, he would not have She was the strongest,
• 22:30
  Speaker 15: I think person for him to run with. I mean, look, listen,
• 22:34
  Speaker 15: do you feel like that there's another viable VP that
• 22:37
  Speaker 15: will get.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think exactly. I don't think the Democrats
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: have no bitch period.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: No, it's than it's then like when you look at
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: who could have run.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: She just said bench bench, No bench, clearly bench.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: I said, they don't have no bench. Oh my good
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: All right, ladies and gentlemen, hill a memoir the paperback
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: that right now.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you for joining us. And it's the Breakfast Club.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Good Morning's DJ V Charlamage. We all the Breakfast Club.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Lauren the Roaster is our special guest co host.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Yeses me.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about taking
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: your wife's class name. Now this story comes from where Lauren.
• 23:20
  Speaker 17: So, this story comes from the NFL star Ricky Williams,
• 23:24
  Speaker 17: former NFL star, he decided to legally change his last
• 23:28
  Speaker 17: name to his wife his wife's last name, and he
• 23:30
  Speaker 17: said that this is something that he had been thinking
• 23:32
  Speaker 17: about for some time now and it actually done, but
• 23:34
  Speaker 17: hadn't like mentioned it. And as to why, he said
• 23:37
  Speaker 17: he did it because he wanted to create more balance
• 23:40
  Speaker 17: in his marriage. His wife is a very established and
• 23:43
  Speaker 17: successful attorney, he says, but he often gets more attention
• 23:46
  Speaker 17: due to his NFL career, so he thought that this would,
• 23:48
  Speaker 17: you know, help to create the balance. It's something that
• 23:50
  Speaker 17: he considered after taking an astrology relationship class.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I guess so ye, I told you all signs better,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: all right?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So the question is eight hundred five five five one.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Would you take your wife's last name? Now, charlamagine you
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: said you would hyphen the name.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would hyphen it. You know what I'm saying.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't change it completely. You know, I have four daughters,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: and I want my daughters to keep our last name
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: because you know, I don't have any sons, so I
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: wanted to be hyphenated. That's how my wife's name is.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: My wife's name is her last name and my last
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: name because her her father don't have no son. So yeah,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: to keep the to keep the last name alive, I would.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I would do the hyphen it thing. But yeah, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: wouldn't change my name completely. Yeah no, I wouldn't. No,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. My lineage and my
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: ancestors matter too. I wouldn't change my name completely.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I wouldn't change mine at all. I'm my
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: only child and my wife has two brothers, So yeah, no,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't change mine. Lauren, would you want your husband
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to change his name to your name?
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: No, I want to take his last name.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You want to take his last name?
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know.
• 24:55
  Speaker 17: I just feel like I'm just it's so weird because
• 24:57
  Speaker 17: I'm not traditional at all. But that is as I
• 25:00
  Speaker 17: don't know, just something you look forward to us like
• 25:01
  Speaker 17: a woman from what for me anyway? And not for
• 25:03
  Speaker 17: all woman for me?
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: But I thought it was interesting too.
• 25:05
  Speaker 17: He said that he didn't really care about the change either,
• 25:08
  Speaker 17: because the last name was Williams is not even his
• 25:12
  Speaker 17: real last name. The guy I guess that was married
• 25:14
  Speaker 17: to his grandmother that took care of the family, isn't
• 25:16
  Speaker 17: his real uh like, isn't like isn't his biological dad.
• 25:21
  Speaker 17: So that changes it too because the lineage is not
• 25:24
  Speaker 17: really even there. Because it's not as sad and I
• 25:26
  Speaker 17: won the.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Way it shifted for us to because remember it was
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: a time where, you know, especially if you study like
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: you know Islam or the fibers and teachers Islam, you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: the last name was a slave name. So that's why
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: people would you know, change their name the ex Muhammad,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: you know Farakahn. So I wonder where where we got
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: to the point where we was like, nah, we're gonna
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: represent all last names, even if they are you know.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: From ours, because casey, I don't think it came from
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: from the black name or no.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Duh, clear clearly clearly that it was all slave owner names.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying. I wonder when we started to claim
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: nose and say, nah, this is our last name. I
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: kind of feel like woke. It was when people got woke.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I think. I think when Dame dash would say a
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: hustle for your last name, not your first and you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: like that matters that and that is our names, you
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: know at the end of the day. So so like
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: I said, I wouldn't I wouldn't change my last name,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: but you never know what you're both names.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: But I asked a couple of the men behind the scenes,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and I asked them if they would do it, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: they said no. But then I said, if it was
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: somebody that was financially secure or like an open wind
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: free or one of those, would they changed the name.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: They all suggest I hate.
• 26:32
  Speaker 17: That for y'all because even if she wasn't financially secure,
• 26:34
  Speaker 17: if you lover, and that's what I'm just telling you.
• 26:37
  Speaker 17: They started, you know, they said, I hate man, So
• 26:38
  Speaker 17: don't get me started.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: You do you do?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Hello? Who's this?
• 26:43
  Speaker 16: Good morning you?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: How you doing?
• 26:45
  Speaker 16: I'm good. This is doctor Bryan Thomas.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning. Would you change your last name
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to your wife's last name?
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 26:50
  Speaker 18: I would.
• 26:50
  Speaker 16: I don't see a problem with that. I don't see
• 26:52
  Speaker 16: an issue with it because, I mean, to maintain your daughter,
• 26:55
  Speaker 16: then everybody wants the legacy. I don't have a problem
• 26:58
  Speaker 16: with that at all. I mean, I don't think it's
• 27:00
  Speaker 16: it's fair that, you know, it's an automatic thing that
• 27:02
  Speaker 16: the woman gets to take my last name. I mean,
• 27:05
  Speaker 16: which one was having it? You know, the other way around?
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: It should be okay, someone you you would change it completely?
• 27:10
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, what's the big deal. Yeah, my last
• 27:12
  Speaker 16: name is Bryan, so m's Cardashi absolutely.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: I'm a pick of Smith, Winfrey knows Carter, so I understand.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Brad, Hello, Hello, hey Brad.
• 27:23
  Speaker 12: Uh yeah, I was saying, you call us because there's only.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Like hey, no, why you sound like that?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, continue, So you change your last name
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to your wife's last name.
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: I would be down.
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: Not that she'd ever asked that, but because her last
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: name is so unique that there's only like a handful
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: of people.
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: That have it in all of the US.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: What's her last name?
• 27:51
  Speaker 12: I kind of want to say it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: It's not bad or anything like that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You know, what is it?
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: You don't want to put her out there? I understand.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Let's say, you're not going knock to tell us what
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the unique name is.
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: Well, because of perspective, you know what I'm saying, like
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: the fact that most guys wouldn't have to worry about
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: that because a lot of people are common and is it?
• 28:12
  Speaker 12: But because it's not common, I don't want to put
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: her out there?
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Got you? That was all right?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: That had been so much better if he just said that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Said the name quitting?
• 28:23
  Speaker 19: What up?
• 28:24
  Speaker 12: Man?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: What's up? Would you take your wife's last name?
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: No?
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: Man?
• 28:27
  Speaker 12: That ain't no man? This duty right here last name.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: That what she married.
• 28:32
  Speaker 16: He's got to be the man that relates top.
• 28:34
  Speaker 17: You're not the man if you're the name is not
• 28:37
  Speaker 17: if she doesn't make your last name, like, aren't you
• 28:38
  Speaker 17: still the man?
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: No, I'm not taking her.
• 28:41
  Speaker 12: And now she she got a bunch of money. I
• 28:43
  Speaker 12: think that shut up.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Man's so crazy, I can I say it's it's funny
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: to me, Lauren, when people say you're not a man
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: if you take the woman's last name. But the woman,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: the woman got money, It's okay to take that makes
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: you a bird.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: You're a bird.
• 28:58
  Speaker 17: But if I sat up here it's say anything about
• 29:00
  Speaker 17: a man with money, then what I would do? Because
• 29:02
  Speaker 17: the man got money? I am like, I have no morals.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: I'm they call your birth by the way, for all
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: guys who say that. And if the girl got money,
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: I'll take her last name. You're a city girl, definitely
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: a city.
• 29:13
  Speaker 17: But y'all mad when we bumping city girls and the
• 29:16
  Speaker 17: sexy reds and see, I'm just I don't hate nobody.
• 29:19
  Speaker 17: I'm just calling out double standards all the time. Y'all
• 29:21
  Speaker 17: be mad at me.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: You know what.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It says that your wife wants you to do that?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Right now? Take her last name.
• 29:28
  Speaker 12: I'm my wife, than I possibly getting married.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, the narratives.
• 29:34
  Speaker 12: She wants me to take your last name. But I'm
• 29:36
  Speaker 12: pretty old school man, I'm not for that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: But I do get her.
• 29:39
  Speaker 16: I do get her point of view because.
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: Her father was a single father, so her last name
• 29:44
  Speaker 12: was Diane with her because he only had two girls.
• 29:47
  Speaker 12: So I do understand her point of view.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: But I can't do that. Man.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Why doesn't she walk around? Why doesn't she just hyphenate
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: her last name and then when y'all have kids. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: ain't for that hyphen I'm not saying you. I'm not
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: saying you have to. I'm saying, why doesn't she hyphenate
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: you know, y'all last names? And then when y'all have kids,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: the kids have the hyphenated last name.
• 30:09
  Speaker 12: She wants to hyphenated, but I don't see the purpose
• 30:11
  Speaker 12: of hyphenated. Who has It's like.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Walking around with That's not true.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: People have two last names, especially if they people.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: If you, if you, I know they have two last names.
• 30:21
  Speaker 12: But I mean we get married. I mean, like I said,
• 30:23
  Speaker 12: I'm old, my grandfather, my grandmother, y'all got kids yet?
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope you have all girls. I hope you
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: have all girls. That's not a bad thing, though. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: hope you have all girls. So when those girls get
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: married to another guy, you'll understand why it's important to
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: hyphenate the last name.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with all girls.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: What was that last name?
• 30:45
  Speaker 18: Though?
• 30:47
  Speaker 17: You might lose that last name because if they get
• 30:48
  Speaker 17: married and want to stay traditional and take their man's
• 30:50
  Speaker 17: last name, like the the household they're.
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: With their mom, that's something that's gonna have to be
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: decided when they get married.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, but you gotta change tradition. Now you're
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: in it, KP. What's wrong with people man changing this?
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: You now?
• 31:03
  Speaker 12: K Yeah?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Would you take your wife's last name?
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: It depends on which name adds more value to the
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: family man, like traditionally demand a last name is gonna
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: be worked more than the wife's last name, whatever case is.
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: But you know, if like you born out of Oprah Whitfrey,
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: want me to take her last name? The Whitfery last
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: name means born in the fierce last name.
• 31:31
  Speaker 12: Legacy.
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: And then also you know, if like but if Ricky
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: Williams lands name Terry whole bunch of weight, as far
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: as like if daddy living with emotional trauma and stuff
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: like that. He might not want to leave that niggage
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: to his kids. He might want to, you know, add
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: the value of the white's family name on. So me, personally,
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: my wife's got my lass name, but if hers would
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: have been once more, I would have been a.
• 32:01
  Speaker 17: Hop what's the traditional rule that said that the man's
• 32:04
  Speaker 17: last name carries more weight than.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: The woman did?
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: The traditional rule for what I'm saying traditional whenever we
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: go back to old student marriages and stuff, you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: the man brought something to the table and said.
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: Hey, I'm adding value to this.
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: I'm not saying there's a rule, but I'm saying, traditionally,
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: that's why the man's last name was taken. Because you're saying, hey,
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: I'm bringing your daughter over here and join her to
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: this family, and you know this family is adding value
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: to you.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, a brother, Well, what's the other story,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: guys in the morting?
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: The story is you got to do what works for you.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean. I already told y'all I
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: got I got three four beautiful daughters. So you know
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: I want them to you know, hyphenate their last names
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: when they choose to get married a long, long, long, long,
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: long long long time from now, because I want my name,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: my last name, to continue to live on you and
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: I think most fathers who have daughters want that. My wife,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: That's what my wife did, so I don't have a
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: problem with that. As far as changing my last name completely, No,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: I want to honor my family, just like you know
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: that person wants their family honor. All right.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Just the Breakfast Club, Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: More.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Everybody is the dj n V Charlamagne to God. We
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: The building now, it's a special special Yes.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett Smith.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank you, thank you.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling this morning?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling good.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: You're glowing.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: You know, life is good even in the chaos.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, life is chaos.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is. You know what I'm saying.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So you just get in harmony with that.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: That's interesting, you said. I could always be wondering, like, yo,
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: do are we ever going to find peace on this planet?
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Or do we just exist within the chaos? The chaos
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: is normal?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know. Just in my ernie, I've
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: just been discovering that you kind of have to just
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: rise above it, right, because the world is going to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: be what it's going to be, right. I actually think
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: that the world is a university, you know, to teach
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: us how to transcend it. Yeah, and so yeah, you
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: just you got to make peace with what this world
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: is about. But I don't think that this place is
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: our sanctuary. I actually think you know, snding it and
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: going into more of the spiritual spiritual places, you know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: and just kind of understanding living your life from there
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: within the world. I mean, that's what they say, you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: be in it, but not of it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: You ever get tired of it? Though, because you've been
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: on this tour for a while, and you're very big
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: on energy and vibrations, and sometimes I'm sure the energy
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and vibrations have been all over the place, but it
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: seems like you've been on tour, yeah, for a long time.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You ever get tired of it? Like now, enough's enough?
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I think that if I put myself in that frame
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: of mind and I just bring myself a level of discomfort,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that's not necessary, right, You just go it is what
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: it is. So how are you going to step up
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: to the moment and that's it, you know, that's just
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: what it is. And so that's where I find my piece.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Since the release of this book, what is your Ego?
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Been telling you?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: My ego has been telling me to let go because
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: it takes a lot of courage to sin in your truth.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: It takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: of courage to be happy. When you're walking through the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: world and you're dismantling ideas, you know, you kind of
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: have to and that dismantle you just kind of have
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: to let go of everything that you thought you were,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: everything that you're trying to be, and just flow right,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: just let whatever is presenting itself, just kind of be
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: what it is. But you definitely gotta let go. So
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: it's it's been a real test in regards to trust.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I just can't trust the ego in that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: way anymore. But you know, that's a process. So as
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I'm dismassing, so you go from one ego state to
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the next, right, so it just gets it just gets uh,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it just gets smaller, I guess, you know, but the
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: ego is always going to be that. So you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you just kind of learn how to make friends with
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: your ego and have it work for you in a
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: different way, for different purpose.
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm working with right now.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Has this truth helped your relationship with friends, family, and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: even your marriage? Has this truth and all the things
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: that came out or did it make things worse?
• 36:50
  Speaker 19: Oh?
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: No, See I didn't. I didn't step into this walk
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: into my situation with my friend is my family as specifically,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Will was tight right because I already knew how disruptive
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be. So I had to make sure
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: that my inner circle was tight, right, so that we
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: could walk this together hand in hand.
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: So it's actually, you know, specifically for Will and I,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: it's definitely brought us closer. It's so funny how crisis
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: will do.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: That, you know what I mean?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So that's the thing
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: about Will and Ize, just like we just learn more
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: and more as we go that this is what we
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: were built to do, you know, with each other, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and to walk together. And you know, just like any
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: long term relationship, it goes through it's of course, you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: and so you gotta take your time. I really had
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: to grow emotionally. I did, had I realize how emotionally
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: immature I was, you know what I'm saying. And so
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: that's the thing about long term relationships that are fantastic
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: if you can just hang in there, because it's going
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to force you to step your game up if you
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: want to be happy, you know. And so Will's been
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: one of my greatest teachers on my journey, you know,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: because I've been forced to have to deal with.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: My stuff, you know what stuff because you said you're immature.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: What immaturity do you see when you look at yourself?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I would say, you know, seven years ago, just
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: when you're just hanging onto these romantic ideas of what
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: marriage should be, what your partner should be for you,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: so that you don't have to be the thing for yourself,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: like when you keep banging on somebody like, no, I
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: need you to show up this way because I need
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to feel a certain way about myself right that in itself.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: If it's just like hold up, you want somebody else
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: to be something for you that you're not willing to.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Be for yourself.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: First of all, how do you call that love?
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And I had to like step away to really realize that,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: you know, And so me get myself in alignment and
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: just realizing like yo, Jada, you got a lot of
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: work to do, and then doing that work, and then
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: being able to present myself with more of myself, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: then being able to see Will as who he is
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and just accept him and love him.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: There, that's what I think is lost, you know in
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: the book if you haven't read the book, right, like,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: you think all the combos about Tupac and Will distracted
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: from what this book really has to offer.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Because I do, yeah, and I knew that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 10: I knew.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I knew it was going to be a lot of distractions, right,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and I was like, hopefully this book will have legs
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: so that once all of the you know, the chatter
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: dies down, we can get to the real components of
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: the book. Now, people who've actually read the book are
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: on it, right, They see that. So it's a journey of.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Here, it's a journey of somebody trying to find their worthiness,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: which is, you know, all of us have struggled with
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: that impost syndrome, not feeling worthy. If you read the book,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: you see somebody really laying it out in detail, the
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: journey to get to that place of.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Worthiness, and it's a universal struggle. You know, we all
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: do it in different ways, right, it's a universal struggle.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's I really wanted to lay that
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: out in the way that I did, especially once again
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: just dismantling these ideas of perfection, you know, because we
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: also have these societal romantic ideas of what somebody in
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: my position, what my life should look like, who I
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: should be within it, you know what I'm saying. And
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: it's like no, no, no, Like real life is real
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: life no matter what station you sit in at period.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: You know, do you regret leading with a lot of
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: that stuff, leading with a lot of to talk about
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: will to talk about pop because you know, those just
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: became sound bites and headlines on the internet clips.
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: That you know.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: It's so difficult because when you're dealing with media, that's
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: that's what that's what people want attach to people not interested,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: you know, that's not the clickbait. The journey part of it.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: The clickbait is you know, the Tupac, the will you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: so you got to kind of get past the clickbait
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: where people get exhausted with that and that dies down
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: and then people can get with the real But it's
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: hard to avoid it. Honestly, it's hard to avoid.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: It, all right. We got more with Jada Pinkett Smith.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: When we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Good morning. Yet we're back. It's the Breakfast Club dj
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: n V Charlamagne the God, and we're still kicking it
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: with Jada Pinkett Smith, her book Worthy is out right now.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: We look at your life and we see the wedding,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: we see the trips, we see all of that. When
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: did you realize and say, I need to fix this
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: because this isn't right with me? What was that moment?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I would say that I got slammed up against a wall,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: probably when I was really confronted with some really heavy
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: suicidal thoughts, when I was looking for cliffs to drive over,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: you know, so that my suicide would look like an
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: accident so my kids wouldn't think that I committed suicide.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I did a plant medicine journey ayahuasca.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: I can't wait.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Let me know when I got you and that that
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: was a real awakening for me, you know, when I
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: really had to be confronted with my own shadow, my
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: own self hatred, and it was so strong and it
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: was so scary. I was like, whoa, I didn't need
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I thought it was I didn't even want to be
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: with that, and I'm like asking somebody else to contend
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: with that. That was the first moment that I realized, oh, Jada,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: you you got some stuff.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: To deal with. And what got you to that point?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Because most people would look on the outside and be like,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: you know, she's rich, she's a movie star, she's dating
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: another movie star, she has beautiful kids, your mom is
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: still there. Like it looks like to the outside, the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: life is perfect. So what in that perfect life on
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the outside made you feel imperfect or made you not
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: feel like this is what I want.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: It was like dealing with the foundational wounds, right. I
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: hadn't done, I hadn't doubled. And that's what we most
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: of us don't even know what our foundational wounds are.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: We don't even know we're foundationally wounded. Right, And so
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: it's started a childhood. You know, you got two parents
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: who are addicts and you're not the priority, right, and
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: then just the levels and just the trauma that gets
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: built upon what that environment it's like, right, And I
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: thought that making it would heal it all. You know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: success takes care of everything right, and then it was like, Okay,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: made it to Hollywood, that's not it. And then I
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: met this fantastic guy and I was on this world
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: wind of romance with Will, and I was like, he's
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: gonna fix it. You know what I'm saying. He's gonna
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: He is the Knight and shining armor, He's the Savior Prince.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: He's gonna fix it. So it went from one false
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: belief to the next. And I talk about trying to
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: check all the boxes. It's like, checked all boxes, what's left, right,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: and then having to realize, oh man, oh yeah, you're
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: not dealing with your stuff. That's what's left. So it
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: just goes to show that we can have all of
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: these exterior things, you know, but that's not the thing
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: that's gonna heal the soul.
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: It's interesting because you know when we used to watch
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: her at table talk, people would be like, who is it,
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: Jada Pinket take off the drug dealer, Jada drug dealer energy.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: You know, I never, I never When I when I
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: read that in the book, I was like, Jay the
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Pinkett Smith was in the streets like that. But when
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: you walked in, I'm like, oh, I see it, I
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: see a little king.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, just trying to be comfortable.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Sorry about that.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: But when people used to watch The Red Table Talk,
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: they be like, why who Why is Jada Pinkett Smith
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: an expert and anything? But in the book you refer
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: to yourself as you said, you're a pseudo pseudo guru. Yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: you said. It's in the Feeling the Range chapter that
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: you seem to often set yourself up to fall off
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: the edge of high and mighty them. You admit at
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: the time you didn't know, like why talk to yourself
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: like that?
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Well, because it's the truth, you know. And I think
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that when we're really on that game of healing, like
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the person that you got to be the most honest
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: with is yourself. And a lot of times that could
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: be that could be the most difficult when you really
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: got to look at yourself and realize, you know, you
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: thought you were something and now you realize that you ain't,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: you know, And so yeah, you just got to learn
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: how to be deeply honest with yourself. And as I
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: talk to myself that way, I can also hug myself
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: in saying that.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: You know, now you talk about love so much, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: you talk about how you felt at one time you
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: are against marriage, right? Is that because you've seen your
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: parents in their relationship? What changed your mind?
• 46:39
  Speaker 18: Yeah?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I think that was really Like I got to see
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: my grandparents who both said to grandparents had a really
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: long lasting marriage. But I wasn't quite sure that it
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: was the pinnacle of happiness. And so you know, when
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you're young, you're a free spirit, and I'm just like, no,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I can do this different because I I want to
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: be happy. I'm not quite sure that's what happy is?
• 47:03
  Speaker 18: Like.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: How can I be in a relationship and be happy?
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: You know, I was all about the devotion of it,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: but I wasn't quite sure that marriage was the thing, right.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: It wasn't until maybe three years ago.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Three years ago. You've been married all this time?
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Years ago, said you wasn't years ago?
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not that I wasn't happy, not
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: that I wasn't happy, But I got to see the
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: power of marriage three years ago. I got to see
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: the power not even well yeah, and no, right, I
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: got to see how marriage is a it is a
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: holy path for real, right, just in regards to learning
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: about love, because it takes a long time to break
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: down all the different false beliefs that we have about love, right,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: and and the thing about a holy matrimony. And it's
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: not to say that you're not gonna go through some
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: unholy stuff, right, But when two people are committed and
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: just refuse to quit, what you can learn about yourself,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: about your partner, and about love in general. You can't
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: really learn by going from one relationship to the next
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: looking for the honeymoon stage over and over again, right,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: specifically if you're interested in learning about unconditional love, you know.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: And so I was like, oh, snap, this is what
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: it's about.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: You know, years ago, Like what was that moment three
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: years ago?
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: I would probably say, when we'll going through through the
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: process of emancipation. And then once he finished emancipation and
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: the stuff that started coming up for him, right, and
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: that's when he was like, hey, can we get back
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: into some therapy together, and the stuff that was coming
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: up for him and the kind of conversations we were
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: starting to have. I was like, Okay, here we are.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, And everybody starts their journeys in different ways
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: at different times, you know what I'm saying. But that's
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: when I knew I was like, okay, and then we
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: went to the oscars and that whole thing happened, and
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: it wasn't I didn't even think twice about it when
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I saw what was happening, and I was like, I'm
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: not leaving this man's side. I'm not leaving this man's side.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I will keep a lock. We got more with Jada Pinketsmith.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Her book Worthy is out right now, so don't move.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning, Good morning everybody. It's
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: dej nv Charlamage the guy. We are to Breakfast Club.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: We're still kicking it with Jada Pinkett Smith, Charlomagne.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: You think, up until the point of three years ago,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: do you think y'all had had just more of a
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: trauma bond.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I would say yes and no. I would say we
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: had a trauma bond, and then underneath of it there
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: was this real deep friendship, this spiritual bond too, because
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: you can start breaking through your trauma and start talking
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: through your trauma. And if it's just a trauma bond,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: once you start to heal and you start going your
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: separate ways, it's done. If it's just a trauma bond, right,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: But when you can feel that that spiritual bind once
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: you're doing the healing, and that spiritual bind is just
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: yoking you tighter, then you know it's something else, you know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: and you really have to have the discernment to know
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the difference, you know what I'm saying, because sometimes you
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: do just have a trauma bomb with somebody and sometimes
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: you just got to get away, you know what I'm saying.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: And so you you you gotta really like sit with
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: yourself and have the discernment to know the difference.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: Now that's real, because sometimes you heal so much you
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: be like, man, you look around like, oh, like nobody exactly.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: That's real talking, yeah, straight out, because that's what we do.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: It's like that. And that's part of it too, you know,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: And that's part of why we have to have the
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: courage because innately, you know, once you start healing, a
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: whole lot is gonna change.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: You know, with the Oscar situation, did that save your marriage?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: And the reason I asked that is, you know, I've
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: been married twenty two years, Charlamae's been married a long time.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: But your wife will always be mad at you, right,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: but you can't be mad at him. I could be
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: mad at him him down. Yeah, So did that save
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: your marriage?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I would say what it definitely did is that it
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: accelerated what I think was already in the process. It
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: was in that moment that I knew. I was like,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, Na, we gonna do this together.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be by your side, and I know that
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I'll never I'll never leave your side, right Because it's
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: funny because an emotional crisis, I didn't blink.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't blink.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: And that's when I knew deep down inside.
• 52:31
  Speaker 20: I'm like, you know what I'm saying. It's like, and
• 52:41
  Speaker 20: you there's no getting away from him. You've been trying,
• 52:44
  Speaker 20: you know, really you don't want to go nowhere?
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Stop it. And so was that incident that I knew
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: right away, Yo, we in it, and so that was it.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: But I think that was the trajectory anyway. It just
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: in an instant solidified it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: You know if y'all have you know, if y'all have
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: been separated all of these years, if you read the book,
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: you realize that, right and will never said anything about it.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Why did you feel now with the time to reveal
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: that information. Was it just to sell books?
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Like some people think, Oh no, it's part of the process,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you know. It was part of like part of my
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: self worth journey, like I had to really, I was
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: leaning on will in a lot of ways. And I
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: think for women specifically, how a lot of times our
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: relationships are used to identify us, you know what I mean.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And so I thought that was a really important process
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: and so much a really important thing to talk about
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: because so much of my journey happened in that time
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: when it was just me, you know, And I think
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: that and I also wanted people to realize that sometimes
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: marriages go through breaks like that, you know. And for
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: people out there who are thinking about, yo, should I
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: just get separated, should I, you know, get a divorce,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, just take time for you. Have the
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: courage if you got the courage to sign divorce papers
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: or you know, go to lawyers and get just have
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: the courage to figure out how to just take time
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: for you and then see what's showing up for you, right,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: because sometimes divorce is the answer, sometimes legal separation is
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: the answer. But first and foremost, just take a year,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: take a year, see what shows up, you know, before
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: you start going into like all these other processes, because
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: sometimes we can act so quickly out of any and
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: frustration and we just want to get away, and we
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: think that's the answer, you know, And in some cases
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: it is, but in some cases it's not.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: How did you feel when you talk about the truth, right,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: and you say a big reason of this book is
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: you can help other people, other marriage, other couples that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: are dealing with it and don't know how to express
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: it because they've never seen it right. And the press
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: and the public says, you know, Jada is embarrassing well,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: and you just said you were doing it because you
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: wanted to live in your truth. So what do you
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: say to those people that thought that it was just
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: embarrassing embarrassing well and dehumanizing him and it and take
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: it as his masculine I.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: Want to quote Anna in the Barrow of the View,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: She said, you are emasculating and embarrassing.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I think if she took time to read
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: the book. You know, I think that if you want
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: to just read headlines, I could see how that could
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: be confusing. But the book is right here, and you
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: have two books you can read, actually read my book
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: and Will's book, which is so great that a lot
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: of people are doing that, you know. But people have
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: the right to their opinions. And I always know that
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: anybody who's saying that hasn't really done that homework. But
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: you gotta expect it too because of what the headlines are.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: You know what clickbait is. So Will knows what it is.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I know what it is, my kids know what it is.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: And more importantly, Gray Supreme does too, right, and so
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: that's really that's really all I'm concerned with it. At
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: the end of the day.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Well, Will was up here.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: He talked about being insecure, a little bit about Tupac.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Did y'all ever have that conversation? Because as a man,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: when you're a little insecure, I almost feel like you
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: play both sides. You want to be yourself, but you
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: want to show that you're better than the person that's
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: making him insecure. You're tougher than, or smarter than, or
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: more romantic than, or a poet then a better rapper than.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Did y'all ever have that conversation?
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that we had conversations in that way.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: It was just like, you know, we came up in
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: the era where it was so unusual for a man
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: and a woman to be friends, right, I mean, really
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: think about it, like that's that's more of an open
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: idea now, right, But just think in our era that
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: was just like friends.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: They had dat like what what what?
• 57:25
  Speaker 20: Right?
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: And so I think for him it was just like
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: getting your mind around around that, you know, and that
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: the kind of friendship that we had because we had
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: such a you know, tight friendship that you know, was
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: very impactful on my life, you know. So I think
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: it was just getting the understanding around that Tupac and
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I could be friends, you know, and that that that
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: he was a part of my life and that way,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: and so just we had a lot of conversations around
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: just those ideas.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: How do you get over that?
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I think he just realized that. And I really can't
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: speak for will you shuld probably ask him when he
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: comes back, But I think he just realized that that's
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: what it was, you know what I mean, it was like,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: that's what it was. It's like, you know, that was
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: that beautiful friendship. And I think once he really and
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: started as he got older, started having his own friendships
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: with women, like, oh, that that is possible.
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: How are you with that?
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I'm listen, I always told will you need some female friends?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Did you yes?
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Because I think I think I think men and women.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I think men do need female friends because and women
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: need male friends. And I actually think men once they.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Have daughters, I got full, I got four, and you
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: got four daughters and majority female.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: But I see, I would now let me ask you
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: a question. Would you say that having daughters helped you understand?
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Absolutely?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: And see? I think that's what happened to will I
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: think once Willow came, you know, and then he started
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: to realize a different relationship with the feminine, right, and
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: then he realized, oh, wow, you know you can have
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: relationships with women that are non sexual or however, y'all
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: have to, you know, manage that in your own minds.
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: I think once Willow came, she was his teacher on
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: that for sure, and so he was able to have
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: female friends.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I will keep a lock. We got more with Jada
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Pinkett Smith. Her book Worthy is out right now, so
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, We're back.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. DJ and V Charlamagne the God,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and we're still kicking With Jada Pinkett Smith. Her book
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Worthy is out right now, Charlamagne.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: In the No Soccer Mom chapter, right, you shoot down
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: every rumor there's ever been about y'all that y'all are swingers,
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: that y'all were both gay and playing each other's bids,
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: that y'all was sleeping with whomever you choose. How does
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: it feel in twenty twenty three to still have those
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: same rumors out about people you love, like Will and doing.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I know that just came out too recently.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and let me just say this, it's ridiculous, right,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: and it's nonsense. And this is a person that tried
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: a shake down, a money shakedown that didn't work. We're
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: gonna take legal action because it's one thing to have
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: your opinion about somebody versus just making up salacious, malicious stories.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: So that's actionable. So we're gonna roll with that, you
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's not true. We gonna take
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: care of it.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: And that's that there was a money shakedown probably.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, money before. Well, it's it's based around this person's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: idea that they in some way were doing business around
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Will's book and that they spent money or what have you,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and that they needed to be compensated. So he already
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: tried to do this money shakedown. Will was willing to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: give him a certain amount or what have you, and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: he didn't take it. So this whole situation is based
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: on that give aunt wife though just well because of
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: some business that they had. And I don't know the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: complete details about it, but that's about to come out,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: because like I told you, about to take legal action.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: You should.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we are for sure.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I was asking, how's Will dealing with it? You know,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: with all.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: Released a statement.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Will, Here's the one good thing about Will. Will's always
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: gonna find the funny. I figured that kid's always gonna
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: find the funny, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: And so the murder, murder, kill kill, Yeah, you have to.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: You have to because it's absolutely ridiculous, you know what
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So all you have is you just gotta
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: laugh about it, you know. And it's unfortunate because.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: Did he ask you, like, do I look like I
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: give off bottom?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: And he was like, do you believe it?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: But we just laughed about it.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I gotta asked about Tyreese that there was a rumor
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: that Tyree called you.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: He said he called you on the phone. He was
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: he was, he was on med, he was out of it. Yeah,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: and he told you I ain't no killer, Jada, I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: ain't no killer, but don't push me. Oh was like
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: the sweetest joy and that's getting you don't know why
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: he is.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: So Tyese did call me for sure, and he was
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: he was definitely in a in a state. And I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: was really concerned, you know, And I'm just called.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Tupac though he said he said him and Charlie Max
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: said he quoted Tupac.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: He called Tupac.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: No, he said, he called you and quoted Tupac.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 10: He may have.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I was so worried at
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: that time when he made that call about his his state,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: because it was really deeply concerning that I don't I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: couldn't even tell you exactly what happened because I'm trying
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: to think about who I can get there, Who can
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I get in the house, how can I get him help? Yeah,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: And so that I was, I was in I was,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I was a little panicked, you know, to just make
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: sure that he was okay and that nothing was going
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: to happen. He wasn't gonna hurt himself or anybody else.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: So that I couldn't even I don't even remember.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: What he said.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: What he said.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: I want to talk about the book and a debate
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: I had at dinner a couple of weeks ago with
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: some friends, because in the book, you say that you
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: and Will decided to separate in every way except legally. Yeah,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: and y'all would have complete transparency, no secrets about what
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: y'all were doing, at whom y'all were doing it with, right,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: And the debate we were having was or early in
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: the books, she said that they've never been in an
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: open relationship. But isn't that an open relationship.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the difference between that. That's when you're you're
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: in an open relationship and you are still intimate with
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: each other. Right, at that point, we went our separate ways.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: So it's as if we are divorced, separated and just
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out how we're going to go about it.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: But at that particular point in time, we were no
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: longer relating in that way, right, because for us, it
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: was over, it was done. So if you're in an
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: open relationship, that means that you are still in a
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: relationship with one another romantically and you are okay with
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: being with other people romantically.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: Like y'all were separated.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: We weren't separated, like you're done, done, done, done done.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: Why did you choose not to say August's name in
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: the book?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Really? Just too? I felt like he's been through enough,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I just wanted to
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: be respectful in that manner, I really did.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: Do you feel like that's something that you need to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: heal like that situation?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping at some point, you know, I'm definitely hoping
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: at some point for sure.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you too, if you pick a
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: crew to run with in real life, would you choose
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: between the cast or Set it Off or the cast
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: of girls set it Off?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Oh that's a hard one, Damn Charlamagne, that's a hard one.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Set it Off. They was rioters, they were, for sure.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: But you know both crews they got, you know, they
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: got something real special. Yeah, I'm gonna plead the fifth
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: I only got two more questions, like, when you having
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: these conversations, now, how do you know in your words
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: that this isn't the pseudo guru using rationale and borrowed
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: wisdom to tell you what you want to hear?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Because it sits so beautifully in my heart. Now, what
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: I will say about that is that's why you gotta
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: always stay open because as we continue to grow and learn,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: you know, It's Bruce Lee said, it best be like water.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because that's where I'm sitting
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: right now. Who knows when I come back, if you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: know what it'll be then because we just got to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: stay open. We gotta stay fluid. But for now, it's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: what speaks to me deeply, you know, And that's all
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: we got, you know, for the moment.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: My last question, and it's a quote, and the quote
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: is other people's opinion to you, whether it's good or bad,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: should not be ground and what you base your self worth,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: if your value is inherent within you, what matters the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: most is whether you know you are worthy. So do
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: you know you're worthy?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? And you know what it really comes from. And
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say this in regards to the question
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: you asked about self worth really dealing with self judgment,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Like once we can cure our self judgment in a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: certain manner, right, people's opinion about you can only affect
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: you if you believe it, you know what I mean.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Once you really know who you are. Once you really
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: know your self worth, anything that anybody else has to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: say about you really can't affect you, you know. And
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: so you know, I know how much work it's taken
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: from me to get to know myself. I can't expect
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: anybody else to know me like that, you know what
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: I mean? So I have to be willing and accept
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: whatever opinions come my way.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: I get it absolutely. Yeah, all right, Jada Picks Smith.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Lady and gentlemen, that's right. Thank you, appreciate for joining
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: us so much.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: This was beautiful. The book worthy is out right now
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: make sure you get it and thank you, thank you.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger, No, I won't. It's the breakfast club.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: It's Jada Picky Smith.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 7: Get you are, I'm a fat and all that shit
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 7: around your They want this.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: Man to wait for the top to make a judgment
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: of who was going to be on the Donkey of
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: the day. They chose you. It's a breakfast club, bitch
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: you who's donkey of the day today?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: Donk here today? Because anyone out there who is reporting
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: stolen property in bribes to the I R S. What okay,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: uncle Shla, what the hell? Are you talking about on
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: this Monday morning. Listen to me, man. I usually tell
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: y'all do whatever the IRS tells you to do. But
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: this one, this one sounds like all the alphabet boys
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: ill inspire and to make sure you end up under
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: the jail. Okay, this sounds like a coordinating plan between
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: the IRS and the FBI. Because if you stole the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: car in twenty twenty one, took a bribe in twenty
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: twenty two, the IRS wants you to report it on
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: your taxes. Okay, see what a stolen call? Yes see.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: These provisions went viral Monday, I think it was last Monday,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: after the tweet went out and it said tax season
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: is around the corner. Remember to report your income from
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: illegal activities and stolen property to the IRS. Let's go
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: to Fox five News for the report, police.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 18: The IRS or just people to report just about everything
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 18: that IRS says. If you seal report it's failed market value.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 18: And if you receive a bribe or get extra cash
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 18: from illegal activities, make sure to include that in your
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 18: income as well. For those worry the IRS won't pass
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 18: the information to launch enforcement. That's because federal taxa okay,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 18: prevents federal employees from sharing tax return information.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, don't get scar now, miss Pat.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about? The loss they mind?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: Black folks don't even want to report cash apping square exactly.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: You're gonna ask me to report a stolen call.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: Ain't gonna tell you it's not bride. Ain't gonna tell you.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: They're not gonna turn it over to law enforcement. Don't
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: you fall for that?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: You're going to jail. Ain't nobody stupid do that? Nobody
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: nobody with our skint calling.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: I'm don't fall for that. All the alphabets right next
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: to each other for a reason, Okay, FBI I R
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: S C I A D E A F B I G.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: They all part of the same family. I don't care
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: what anyone says. Don't you trust it. If you steal property,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: you must report this fair market value in your income
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: in the year you steal it, unless you return it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: to his rightful owner in the same year. Well, what
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: if you're dealing drugs like Ms Pat used to do?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: Okay, you won't stop bringing my history over there and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: there king jail Okay, like you had an old script club.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: You also got to report bribes and kickbacks. You hear
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: that all you DJs and program directors out there taking
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: money to play records, you have to report your bribes
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: and kickbacks. Okay, Who in their right mind is about
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: to fall for this. This is not even something you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: should entertain with a lawyer. President, Okay. The whole point
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: of committing these crimes is a to get some money
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: and be yeah, to get some tax free money. All right.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: I've literally been reading Ray Kwan's memory from staircase to
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: stage all week wa hear what I said? My visit
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: line okay, and I've been reading it all week. No,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: it's in my visit line.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: Wh won't you take them off? You're trying to keep
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: them straight, ain't you? That ain't necessary? Ray Cat, I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: see you take your visit line.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 18: Up the top.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: I gotta wear them at work. Y'all know I should
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: have just said book, but I've reading. But I've been
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: reading the book all weekend. Okay. And he talks about
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: one of the perks of drug dealings that you got
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: tax free money. And I don't remember the exact quote,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: but he basically says, why would he get a job,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: work all those hours only to get the government half
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: when that's the legal activities and make all that tax
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: free money. So yeah, I know we live in this
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: era where people act all liberated and they want to
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: act like they are accepting of all things. But I'm
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: telling you right now, this is the equivalent of your
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: significant other telling you. Just tell me you cheating. I
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: won't get mad. Just go ahead and met your dirt.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: Tell me what you did, and it's all good. You
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: ever did that? Somebody?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Not what I did? I did. I ain't. I ain't
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: paid on text some adult dealing money.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: But I went to the skating ring and brought me
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: some joinanism Levi's different color fleet lines. It wasn't the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: government problem. Hey, the government ain't. He never helped me
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: bagged up a rock, so why would I give them
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: a percentage of it? They didn't stand on that corner.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: They didn't help me put that dumping my kids draws.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: They didn't help me pull it out of my draws.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: You didn't participate in the business.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Should I help you? He meant?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: Did you.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: What you meant?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: You go what you mean?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: If there's a line that's.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Confused, all I'm saying is, don't fall of that. Okay,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: all right? You think the same government that that does
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: nothing but lie to you, is gonna be truthful with
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: you now, Okay, I'm gonna trust the same government that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: has proven time and time again that they are not
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: to be trusted. Okay. I think they saw how people,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: how stupid people was with their PPP loans, and they said,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: what else can we do to get more of them
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: to lock themselves up?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: No, let me say this to y'all.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: If it don't require your solid security number, don't report it.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: That's what I say.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: Then the pp loan requires your security. My friend going
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: to jail for that.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 8: PPP low I wanted my friend I went to a
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: one point five million dollars and they're looking at me
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 8: like they're crazy. I know they broke, but I ain't
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: saying nothing. I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: So do you do you think people should uh you know,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: follow their crimes on their taxes?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Who the hell the I campone file here crime on
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: his taxes. If the whites don't do it, then the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: blacks don't think.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: I don't think O component that pore taxing. That's how
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: they listen. The only way this would work is if
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: everyone who actually did this was a granted immunity from prosecution,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: prostitution prosecution. O. Man, if there's no legal protection for that,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: there's no legal protection that shields them from criminal prosecution
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: for the offenses they report on their taxes. What's the
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: point If you think this government is about to give
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: a tax return for committing crimes. If you think this
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: government is just gonna accept those crimes like legal employment,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: then go ahead and do your thing, because I need
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: content for donkey today. Anyway, Hey, I.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: Remember back in the day, they were asking everybody to
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 8: turn in their guns to go see Janet Jackson.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: Y'all remember that in Alma. Why Janet Jackson.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: I don't know what was going on in around them,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 8: but they asked everybody turning their guns for free concert ticket.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: Then two weeks later, everybody gets shot because.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: Had no guns.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, damn you do you remember that?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: You look it up there in Alowna.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 8: They were asking you for Janet Jackson ticket, you turning
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 8: your pistol, and everybody got shot the next week.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: Don't do it.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: Please give everybody who will be reporting their stolen property
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: and bribe to the I r S the biggest he
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: off because I don't care what mys past stage. Some
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: people are gonna do that.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: That sounds like me in the bed. What Charlamagne my
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: legs when them crimes?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 8: Get the comings?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: Your hand on the back of my behind, just holding me.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: The Breakfast Club.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: J n V. CHARLAMAGNEA god, we are the breakfast Club.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Now if you're just joining us, we're talking about Jada
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Pinkett Smith. She was on the show earlier. By the way,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: we have our guest co host Easy Baby with us
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: this morning as well, and we were talking about in relationships,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: marriages or whatever it may be, your significant other, having
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: a friend of the opposite sex. Now, this is what
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Jada pink Smith said when we was up here. He
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: talked about being insecure a little bit about Tupac. Did
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: y'all ever have that conversation, because as a man, when
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: you're a little insecure, I almost feel like you play
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: both sides. You want to be yourself, but you want
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: to show that you're better than the person that's making
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: him insecure. Did y'all ever have that conversation?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that we had conversations in that way.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: It was just like, you know, we came up in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: the era where it was so unusual for a man
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: and a woman to be friends in our.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Era, that was just like friends, they had to be dating.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like what what right? And so I think for
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: him it was just like getting your mind around around that,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: you know, and that the kind of friendship that we
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: had because we had such a you know, tight friendship
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: that you know, was very impactful on my life.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: All right, let's discuss what are your thoughts that start
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: with you? Baby?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 15: I don't know, I feel like relationships with the opposite
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 15: sex are necessary, Like how can you just be in
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 15: this world and just be around people that have the
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 15: same private parts you have? You're gonna you may streamline
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 15: your thinking, you can't really get opposed you know, feelings
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 15: or thoughts. So I think it's necessary. But I think
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 15: you also have to have respect for your partner. Like
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 15: I went and marry somebody that didn't trust me in
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 15: a room without them. So you gotta trust that I'm
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 15: gonna put you first, and I'm gonna honor the vows
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 15: that I'm made to you, and that you know, I'm
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 15: not gonna put nobody in our circle that could threaten
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 15: what we got.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and in my relationship with me and my wife,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: we don't really trust too many people. So for us,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: it has to be mutual friends, right, meaning you know,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: we meet them together, like not like Charlotmae said earlier,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: like I can't just meet you at the grocery store.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Now we're friends, and it's not going to be like that.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: It has to be some type of establishment and my
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: wife has to approve, and with her, I have to approve.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Outside of that. Now we're not taking no new friends,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: and it has to be our friends, like you know,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I should be able to call that person
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: like you should be able to call that person. It
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: should be a cohesive type of situation.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Charlotte y, I never even think about it until this
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: discussion comes up. I got mad homegirls. Yeah, my homegirls
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: and my wife's friends too. In fact, they probably like
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: her more than they like me. Everybody does, like so
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: I don't even like this discussion is like very it's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: silly to me, it's immature. You know a lot of
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: people feel that way because sometimes they got insecurities and
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: they immature, or it's new.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Friends and sometimes people are not around for the right reason.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: And we know this, and I know especially and I
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: hate to say this. A lot of felas sometimes will
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: try to befriend your girl, not because they want to
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: be a friend your girl's friend, they want to smash.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm never trying to befriend nobody. I'm never trying
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: to befriend a man's girl. Like that's not happening.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Like people do that.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: There's reasons why. You know, either your friends or your
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: friends or even these new people who may come into
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: your life. Y'all might work together, you know what I mean,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: y'all might be doing projects together. Like anytime I'm going
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: to be spending time with anyone, my wife is gonna
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: know who that person is, you know what I mean,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: whether it's a man or a woman. Hey we're doing
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: some and such with this individual, or hey we're all
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: going out to dinner. We're all going my wife is
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: gonna be to everybody like there's no woman in my
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: life that's my friend that ain't out.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 15: Wifeer and a lot of people are taking like teenage
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 15: drama into big age relationships, like you know, you had
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 15: to worry about this stuff in high school. People break
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 15: up and get together with a new person next week.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 15: It's really not the same when you're forty.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: If you can't have a platonic relationship with somebody from
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: the opposite sex. Something wrong with you, bro.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone lines. We have dupre on
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the line, Duprix.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 12: Man, what's the djella man?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: And I guess busy baby, what's up? Dupree?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Talk to us? Dupree.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 9: So I was looking for what they will talk about.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 9: I definitely got female friends. I don't really hang out
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 9: with dudes. And my baby mama, who's now my fiance,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: she don't really be liking it to be jealous and.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 12: Stuff like that.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 9: And they just had a party and I'm like, and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 9: I'm trying to go to the party. No, you ain't
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 9: going to be turking and stuff. And I'm like, gonna
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: meet it.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but why would you bring your baby mama there?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Why would you bring with you?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 9: So when they hit me with the invite, I'm like, uh,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 9: we just got to get it. I'm like, man, I
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 9: know she gonna want to come, and it was like
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 9: that's wool. She could come, but she still was social
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 9: type of way. So I'm like, man, whatever I end up,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 9: I want to sweep. I wake up in the morning
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: and looked on social media. They definitely was working so
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 9: it was just like after the dude though, that's like
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 9: get around. That's how I to the homegirls.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 15: But if you had included her in that friendship from
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 15: the beginning, it wouldn't have been days working, it would
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 15: have been weed working.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: It would have been a whole.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 9: But I probably them made her friends though to it
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: like I can understand, like them may your friends that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 9: you ain't gonna really want to be around them girls
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 9: because you don't know.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: But you.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: Supposed to be the bridge between that though.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 15: You supposed to be the bridge between your friends and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 15: your girlfriend, and that that should have already been better
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 15: than it is.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 9: I would say for the most part, she was cool
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 9: with something like cordial.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 9: That's when you not wanted to come around.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 13: You could have came around even.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 9: When you cooler.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: You was like I got the invitation. He was like, damn,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: you know my wife gon you know you know I
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: have to bring her. You didn't say, you didn't make
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: it seem like she was invited.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 9: You her friends be kicking it. I ain't chilling with this, you.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: Know what I mean?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 9: You go with your friends. These are my friends.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 10: This is who I grew up with.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 9: I've beening them to seventh grades.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 16: You know what I mean.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 9: We're thirty years old now, so it's like at any
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 9: point in time you like, oh yeah, I've been I've
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 9: been new there with your homegrols, I'm gonna.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 12: Hang with your I don't have plenty of girls.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 9: I'm picking up with tall, you know what I mean.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 9: But that's on you to choose felt some type of way.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 9: You're never going to come up nay.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: Like BZ said, you gotta beat the bridge, bro like
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: you and if those are really your friends, they gonna
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: absolutely not only want to meet your fiance, they're gonna
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: want to accept her and embrace her as a friend too.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Who's this?
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, Yanny? Good morning?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 13: Talk to us like the egg, like the pianist, not
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 13: the peeness.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: What all right ahead?
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  Speaker 14: Yanni?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So my.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 19: Take on as a like, I'm a girl that have
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 19: really don't have many female friends because just acts funny sometimes.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 19: But I believe like you guys are saying, if you
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 19: have a friend that you've had for a long time,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 19: then everyone should be friends and everyone should be comfortable
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 19: with it. For a girl, it's easier to have dudes
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 19: as friends because they're gonna think, I know how you
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 19: get down. They're gonna think one day maybe it might happen,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 19: but they're gonna still continue to be loyal.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 9: I think when the dude has.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 19: A female friend, they be it's more like if he
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 19: if he even if you get to know him.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 9: Because I don't know.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 13: I'm a female.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 19: I don't know how females get down. So I wouldn't
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 19: be really comfortable with bad, but on my part, I would.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 19: I wouldn't have a bottle with having my dude friends
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 19: and knowing my dude.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 15: You know, so you are right with it because you
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 15: feel like you can control whether or not it goes
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 15: down because you know you've given them access or you're
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 15: denying access. But when it comes to your man, you
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 15: feel like he can't control himself. He just if they
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 15: open it up, he just diving in.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 19: Well I'm not saying totally, but you know, I mean personally,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 19: I just feel like guys got that little extra okay
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 19: maybe or you know, let it get a little too closed.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 19: You know what's friend's ears and like, nah, we're not
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 19: doing that.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: So no, okay, thank you. Janni eight hundred and five
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: eighty five one oh five one. If you're just joining us,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Jada Pinkinsmith. Something she said during our
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: interview about men having women friends and women having men friends.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: We'll discuss when we come back as the Breakfast Club.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Good morning warning everybody, as cenj Envy Charlamagne to God,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: be all the Breakfast Club now if you're just joining us.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Jada Pinckersmith was here last hour. We was talking about
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: men having women friends and women having men friends. And
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: this is how a conversation started. When we was up here,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: he talked about being insecure, a little bit about Tupac.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Did y'all ever have that conversation? Because as a man,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: when you're a little insecure, I almost feel like you
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: play both sides. You want to be yourself, but you
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: want to show that you're better than the person that's
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: making him insecured. Did y'all ever have that conversation?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that we had conversations in that way.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: It was just like, you know, we came up in
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: the era where it was so unusual for a man
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: and a woman to be friends. In our era, that
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: was just like friends.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: They had to be dating.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like what what?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 20: Right?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: And so I think for him it was just like
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: getting your mind around around that, you know, and that
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: the kind of friendship that we had because we had
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: such a you know, tight friendship that you know, was
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: very impactful on my life.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: So we're asking eight hundred and five eighty five one
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: oh five one, what are your thoughts now? Busy Baby
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: is our guest co host today. She feels like men
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: should have women friends and women should have men friends.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 15: No, you can't be a well rounded individual just walking
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 15: around with a whole bunch of I don't want to
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 15: be in a room full of nothing but vagina.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 15: I feel like I grew up with the all brothers.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 15: You know, they teach me things about myself and about
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 15: men that I need to know. So as I get older,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 15: I don't know. I got male best friends, and my
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 15: husband's cool with that, and I'm okay with him having
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 15: girlfriends respect absolutely.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Like the caller said earlier that the thing he was
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: saying that, you know, he didn't know if he wanted
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: to bring his fiance around his other friends. I'm the different.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I'm totally different. When I go out, Baby, you want
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: to come because I'm going to have just as much
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: friend with the homies than with my wife as well.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Like anybody ever seen me out or I've been out anywhere,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I bring my wife with me. I have a great
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: time with my wife. I drink, my wife drink.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: It don't matter.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: We have a good time. If we go to a
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: strip club, we both tipp it. If we go to
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, casina, we both gambling. Like we have
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: that much fun.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 15: But it's a little questionable when somebody sends an invite
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 15: to DJ Envy as opposed to you and your wife,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 15: Like the invite should be coming to both of you anyway,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 15: one hundred percent.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: And that's what I told the dude last time, Like
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: when he said he didn't want to bring his fiance
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: around his friends, Your friends should not only want to
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: meet your fiance, they should be embracing your fiance and
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: bringing her into the circle of friends with over the arms. Correct.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Well, let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 21: This is Lydia.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Hey, Lydia, good morning.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 19: Good morning.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 21: I listen to y'all every day.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, what's your thoughts?
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 22: So my thoughts is I believe it's okay for you
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 22: to us to have girl guy or girlfriends as long
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 22: as they are respectful of the relationship flash.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 21: Marriage because we are married. So and then I work
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 21: in the night life part time, so I'm a bartender
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 21: waitress and I have a bunch of guy friends that
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 21: I work with for years. And when my husband and
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 21: I first started dating, he was very like accepting of
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 21: everything and everybody because everybody was like cool and respectful.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 21: And once I got married, like everybody was like, nah,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 21: she's married, leave her alone, leave her alone, like they
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 21: were very perspective of me. So yeah, and then his
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 21: girls grow homegirls that he's had, there's only ever been
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 21: one person that I have to be like, she's not
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 21: your friends, because a girl just knows when somewhere trying
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 21: to do so.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: But I will say that that might change it a
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: little bit too right. And the reason I say that
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: might change if you're if you're working and guys are
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: hollering at you all day long, I think that can
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: make any guy feel a little insecure.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 7: Why I just.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 21: Anything like because they don't touch me, they don't do anything, Like,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 21: they can look and they can say what they want
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 21: to say. And he's not bothered by it because he
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 21: knows at the end of the night, I'm coming home.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: That's right. So what you're what you're calling being bothered
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: and is actually just called being insecure. Yes, I said,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: but why so you don't trust your woman?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: No, it's not a matter about trusting. It's just a
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: certain job. So when you bartend, the most bartender is
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I would say a majority of them. They when they
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: serve drinks, they flirt a little, right, We've all had
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: a bartend that flirt, yes or no?
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 15: No, I think your kind. I think you're just kind.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 15: You're nice to everybody.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: That's your ego.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: You think you think everybody flirting with you, that's your ego?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Right, light skin, right, Red the bartend has flirt sometimes.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: All the time, Red l skin too.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Man, do you flirt at all with with people that
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: that brodricks?
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 8: No? I don't.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: Can I tell you guys something, I'm just nice.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 21: I'm just nice and then they're like, just nice and
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 21: then they mistake it for flirting. But I'm like, no, y'a,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 21: I'm not flirting, and then I have.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: To be mean too, Like I want all guys out
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: there to know that's your ego talking. If you think
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: that every girl being kind to you is flirting. And
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: if you think every girl being just nice to you
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: means that they want you, that's all ego bro brod
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: and and and and you helen insecure if you think that,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: you're hell insecure and you don't trust your woman, if
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: you think guys hollering at her, if God's hollering at her,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: bothers you, Bartend is definitely flirt all the time. I
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: would say all the time.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 9: But they flirt.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 15: But everybody flirts, like the lady at Walmart begging your
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 15: groceries is flirting.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: All she said was high, have a nice days.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 15: Anywhere you go, you're gonna find what you're looking for.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 15: So if you go to the boy looking for some
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 15: of the flirt, that's what she's doing.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Keisha, good morning, good morning, good morning. Talk to Keishi.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts me personally?
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 13: Like I said, like Jada said, my immature self wanted
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 13: to be friends with my man's friends all the time
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 13: when I was younger. Me now I don't even care
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 13: that's your man, like those are your friends. I don't
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 13: want to be friends with the girlfriends. I don't want
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 13: to be friends with their wife.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: Just let me do me.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 13: You go have fun with their friends, and I'm good.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. If it happens organically, oh yeah, that's great.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 13: I don't really care anymore. I'm just you know, I've
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 13: gotten older, I'm more mature like at this point. If
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 13: it's beneficial to you, fine, If it's not beneficial to youth,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 13: cut it out. For me, it's not beneficial, so I
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 13: don't want any parts of it.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Jaka kisha. All right, what's the more of the story, guys.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: More of the story is friends.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: How many of us have the let's be friends?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: I think. I think the moral of the story is
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: friendship is always a sweet responsibility, never an opportunity. That's
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: what I think.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter what private part you have.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right. The breakfast club, come morning, the breakfast
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: club holding everybody EJ D. Charlamagne the god we are
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: the breakfast club who was on a positive note?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: Positive note is this man? You are responsible for your life.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: You can't keep blaming somebody else for your dysfunction.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Breakfast club, you don't finish or y'all done.