Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Atheist Challenge | @JacksonWheat Questions By Brett Keane #atheism
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- 0:01The Hello ladies and gentlemen, my
- 0:30name is Brett Keane and you are watching and listening to GOD TV
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- 1:02etcetera. Today I wanted to ask some
- 1:05questions to Jackson Wheat who is an atheist, as well as any
- 1:10other atheist out there that wants to respond to my kind of
- 1:15challenge. I used to do challenges in the
- 1:18past and a lot of people seem to enjoy it.
- 1:21It caused a lot of conversation and interaction.
- 1:26Jackson Wheat was originally on a show that I moderated
- 1:32recently. TTOR creationist Young Earth Guy
- 1:37ended up having a discussion science based as well as some
- 1:41other topics with Mr. Jackson Wheat and I got the impression
- 1:46that Jackson Wheat is a pretty decent guy.
- 1:49He seems nice as far as my experiences with atheists have
- 1:55had a lot of bad ones, but the guy actually seemed like he did
- 2:00research, that he did do some studying, and that he actually
- 2:04does care about concepts such as the universe, consciousness and
- 2:10is actually seems formally educated.
- 2:15So I figured why not let's do a video to him, ask him some
- 2:19questions and any non believers who think they might have
- 2:23something they can bring it to the table as well.
- 2:28There was a point in the discussion where you started
- 2:32basically saying some things about your perception or concept
- 2:37of God. And when I say that, I mean that
- 2:40whenever I listen to atheist discuss their perception of God,
- 2:45their concept of God is much different than the concept of
- 2:49God that I believe in or I perceive.
- 2:52I see God in a lot of different ways, but atheists always see
- 2:56God in a negative light. And I'm curious.
- 2:59Mr. Jackson Wheat, is your issue with God more about His
- 3:05existence or its existence or is it about its behavior?
- 3:11I noticed a lot of non believers seem to get emotionally
- 3:15distracted by some of the information or the behaviors or
- 3:20attributes of God in the Bible. When I'm saying attributes I'm
- 3:24not talking about his omniscience, omnipresence, all
- 3:28knowing abilities to be able to do everything that is logically
- 3:32possible. I'm talking about the parts
- 3:35where he shows anger or what some atheists would call
- 3:40animosity whenever he destroys people or causes cataclysms or
- 3:46destruction. Is this the issue, or is it
- 3:50mostly just the idea of something like this actually
- 3:54existing? Does it?
- 3:58When you think about God, does it bother you that there's there
- 4:03could be an actual entity or some foreign alien cosmic being
- 4:10that is in the universe capable of actually seeding worlds with
- 4:15life? See I noticed whenever I'm
- 4:18talking to a lot of non believers.
- 4:20If I were to ask you or many scientific supposed atheist, do
- 4:26you believe in aliens? Do you believe that there's
- 4:29other life in the universe? Usually the argument is, while
- 4:33the universe is so big and so grand, there are billions of
- 4:38planets and the universe is so expanded that it's highly
- 4:45probable that's the argument, that there's other life out
- 4:49there. And Stephen Hawkins, who was an
- 4:52atheist, actually suggested that not only did he believe that
- 4:56there were aliens out there, but he was nervous and had anxiety
- 5:01on the idea that the aliens that exist are not only life forms
- 5:07that are intelligent, but they're superior and more
- 5:10advanced than ourselves, capable of enslaving us and destroying
- 5:15us if they were to take notice of our actual existence.
- 5:21So let me try to put this in a different way in case the 1st
- 5:26way I ask this doesn't make sense.
- 5:30Is it the existence of something like this that's the problem for
- 5:36an atheist such as yourself? Just the mere existence or is it
- 5:42the behavior itself that bothers you?
- 5:45Are you one of these type of non believers where you say well God
- 5:49can't be good or God can't be loving because AB and C?
- 5:57Do you have any scientific reasons why it is that something
- 6:02like this couldn't exist? And I will remind all of you out
- 6:06there. Even if your perception or
- 6:09concept of God were true. Even if it was true that God was
- 6:14this megalomaniacal, tyrannical, evil dark force.
- 6:23I mean straight out of something like the movie The Neverending
- 6:26Story, like a nothingness that just eats everything in its way.
- 6:31Just because you don't like the behavior and attributes, you got
- 6:35to realize that in no way would that disprove the existence of
- 6:39something. I couldn't sit here all day and
- 6:42talk about a lot of things I don't like about this world that
- 6:46in fact there are some things that I actually hate and think
- 6:50that the world would be a better place if certain things did not
- 6:53exist in the world. However, just because you
- 6:57dislike something, or just because you hate something, or
- 7:01because something emotionally traumatizes you or bothers you,
- 7:05that doesn't equal out to that thing doesn't exist.
- 7:09I'll give you an example. I could sit here and say Adolf
- 7:13Hitler, Joseph Stalin, They were both terrible, horrible men and
- 7:20the world would have been better without them.
- 7:22Or perhaps if they didn't exist, something worse would have come
- 7:25along. Depends on how much you are into
- 7:28the theory of time. But still, even though I didn't
- 7:34like them, I can't then turn around, say, well, they weren't
- 7:38real or it never happened. So one more time.
- 7:44Is it the existence of such an entity that's the problem Or is
- 7:48it the behavior that it has that's the problem?
- 7:54Usually for a lot of atheists. From what I listen to and what I
- 7:58hear and when I interview non believers, it's not about the
- 8:02existence of God. Most atheists believe it or not
- 8:05will actually contradict their own definition of atheism.
- 8:10Cause atheism classically means lacks a belief in deities or
- 8:15gods right? Well I asked the question is God
- 8:20possible? 90% of the non believers that I
- 8:24have had personal acquaintance with or have had discussions
- 8:28with have all said yes God or gods are possible.
- 8:35Which goes completely against the definition of lacking a
- 8:38belief in deities. How can you lack a belief in
- 8:41deities? If you believe in the
- 8:43possibility of deities you follow, you can try to twist and
- 8:49turn and argue your way out of that.
- 8:51If that's your view, it doesn't matter to me.
- 8:55It's not going to bring me any Internet cookies or anything
- 8:58like that. However you try to describe that
- 9:01paradox or paradigm. So I guess we'll start from
- 9:06there. I'd like to know that.
- 9:09How many of you out there believe that there are aliens
- 9:13capable of panspermia? Richard Dawkins and his books as
- 9:19well as interviews has actually put forth the idea that he has
- 9:24no issue with the concept of life forms coming to different
- 9:28worlds and actually ceding the population.
- 9:31Now, what that means for people out there that don't know is
- 9:34that at some point in time, an alien or aliens came to a empty
- 9:39world and then they manufactured some kind of life forms and then
- 9:44spilt their seed into the oceans or on land.
- 9:47And then creatures went armed to exist this way and go through
- 9:52some kind of evolutionary process.
- 9:55Do you believe that should be possible?
- 9:58And also my last question, and I've asked this one quite a few
- 10:03times and I have not heard a sensational answer to this yet,
- 10:08but what is your thoughts in the Fermi Paradox?
- 10:13For those out there that don't know what the Fermi Paradox is,
- 10:16at this point in the history of humanity, Earth is the only
- 10:21planet that has objective empirical evidence that life
- 10:26actually exists. As sentience is real.
- 10:29Out of the billions of planets the scientists claim exist, we
- 10:33don't have one single shred of evidence.
- 10:36I think that it was suggested a while back by scientists that
- 10:39there might be a couple molecules or some snot over on
- 10:44Mars buried into a sandy mountain or something.
- 10:48But we don't have anything that comes close to even that of a
- 10:53gerbil or a hamster living on any of the billions of planets
- 10:58that allegedly exist. And when I look at that and I
- 11:02think to myself, why is it that supposedly on Earth, at the most
- 11:09cataclysmic time of its formation, in its existence,
- 11:13when ship was flying out of the clouds in the sky, hitting the
- 11:18Earth, in all these extinction periods, somehow this planet
- 11:22managed to be able to house life forms.
- 11:26But all these other planets, there's even scientists that
- 11:29claim that there are planets out there that are called
- 11:31Goldilocks, planets that are so beautiful that they may even be
- 11:36better than the environment of Earth.
- 11:39OK, Why isn't it that we haven't discovered anything there?
- 11:46Now I'm not wanting to hear a story about how there could
- 11:48possibly be aliens, some kind of Star Trek or galactic star story
- 11:54where you get all sci-fi on me and say well maybe there is
- 11:58creatures they just live under the surface of the planet or
- 12:02live underground like 12 Monkeys movie or something like that.
- 12:07The point is, is that we don't have any evidence of any kind of
- 12:11humanoid creatures. We have no life forms.
- 12:15We can't even find a cute little rabbit somewhere.
- 12:18Nothing. Why?
- 12:21Why is it that out of all this, out of all the fine tuning, out
- 12:25of all the the logic that the universe brings to it, this is
- 12:29all we have? I got.
- 12:34I do have one more single question for everybody, and then
- 12:37I'll end it. I want you to really think about
- 12:41this too. This isn't just a question.
- 12:43The point is to provoke thought and ideas.
- 12:47Has it ever been the case that logic existed without the
- 12:50presence of a mind? Let me put that forth one more
- 12:55time to make sure that everybody understands this.
- 12:58Can logic exist without the presence of a mind?
- 13:03Now that I've put that forth, I want you to think about this.
- 13:06A lot of scientists have been asked, is the universe logical
- 13:11and rational? And the answer's always been.
- 13:14In order for there to be life in the universe, in order for it to
- 13:18exist, there has to be consistency, there has to be
- 13:22patterns, there has to be logic and rationality.
- 13:25The math has to fit or existence can't work.
- 13:29Therefore, logic would exist whether you say it's material or
- 13:34immaterial. Well, doesn't logic require a
- 13:37mind? All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 13:41have a wonderful day.