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Episode 156 - Personal Projects for You · Get Your Shoot Together Photography Podcast

• 0:00
  Kira Derryberry: This week's episode is brought to you by our friends at retouchup.
• 0:02
  Kira Derryberry: Retouchup works smarter, not harder.
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  Kira Derryberry: Welcome to Get Your Shoe Together.
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  Kira Derryberry: The photographer's podcast where we discuss studio business life and keeping it all in line.
• 0:17
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I am Kira Dairberry And I'm Mary Fishtailer.
• 0:20
  Kira Derryberry: I, my window is busted out, mary, it's sure is.
• 0:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: At your studio Man That yeah, kira just sent me a picture of what's going on and it's it's not cute, it's not cute It looks like I got robbed, but I assure you that I haven't I.
• 0:36
  Kira Derryberry: we have a double-pane door glass and I think like a rock hit it or something.
• 0:41
  Kira Derryberry: It doesn't look like anyone purposely broke it.
• 0:43
  Kira Derryberry: It's an old.
• 0:44
  Kira Derryberry: it's an old door needed to be replaced anyway, but it's definitely getting replaced now.
• 0:48
  Kira Derryberry: So, but yeah, we had a huge storm this morning, as I was telling you about, and the the wind just blew out all the glass everywhere, So it really looks like an explosion.
• 0:59
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, it does, It does, And it's the door you don't use, which is good, So don't.
• 1:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: This isn't her main door in door studio.
• 1:04
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: This is a door that's kind of blocked off because it would be into where your studio area is.
• 1:09
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So it's not used, but it just it looks.
• 1:11
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It looks like a smashing grab happened at the Dairberry photography studio.
• 1:14
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, it doesn't look.
• 1:15
  Kira Derryberry: It doesn't look great.
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  Kira Derryberry: I would be suspected.
• 1:17
  Kira Derryberry: Maybe you know what?
• 1:19
  Kira Derryberry: Maybe the robbers will be like oh somebody already hit that place, let's not.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah Well, there you go.
• 1:22
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's one way to fool them.
• 1:25
  Kira Derryberry: But it's a bummer, you know, it's just like one more thing you got to fix.
• 1:28
  Kira Derryberry: But we've, man, we've had some storms.
• 1:29
  Kira Derryberry: This morning I was certain that some trees were going to fall down.
• 1:33
  Kira Derryberry: This morning.
• 1:34
  Kira Derryberry: Everything got rescheduled for me.
• 1:36
  Kira Derryberry: I had shoots this morning and I went and did it this afternoon and my contact person at the office's name was Kira.
• 1:44
  Kira Derryberry: I know What I know.
• 1:48
  Kira Derryberry: So I walked in and she's like hi, I'm Kira.
• 1:50
  Kira Derryberry: And I'm like hi, i'm Kira.
• 1:51
  Kira Derryberry: And then we go and she shows me the conference room where I was going to be shooting and she goes can I you know?
• 1:56
  Kira Derryberry: if you need anything at all, just to shout my name.
• 1:59
  Kira Derryberry: And I was like just call my own name.
• 2:00
  Kira Derryberry: Okay, that's funny, wow.
• 2:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't meet a lot of Kira's.
• 2:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean, they're out there.
• 2:05
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: No, they're out there for sure, for sure, they're out there.
• 2:07
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But wow, that's, that's great.
• 2:09
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know so I am not a crafty person.
• 2:14
  Kira Derryberry: Remember last year at the beach, remember.
• 2:15
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So I'm not a crafty person.
• 2:17
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: My sister, my daughter super crafters.
• 2:20
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: They're amazing.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Not a crafty person, but I have decided.
• 2:23
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So there's a thing when you go to a day do they give you, like dreaming tree cross stitches.
• 2:32
  Kira Derryberry: Like what do they give you?
• 2:34
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: They do not Dream catchers.
• 2:36
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: No, I'm just kidding.
• 2:37
  Kira Derryberry: Oh, that would have been better.
• 2:38
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So it's not just David.
• 2:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So you have some.
• 2:40
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: My daughter made you some of those little beaded bracelets.
• 2:43
  Kira Derryberry: I know that this big with the Taylor.
• 2:44
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Swift, gang and DMB.
• 2:47
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: They do usually this those rubber bracelets.
• 2:49
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know the ones that are just like.
• 2:50
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know the rubber ones and everybody puts different fun sayings and you trade them.
• 2:54
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You just it's like trading pins at Disney I've heard about, i've never done this but like if your kid goes as baseball and has a baseball tournament, they trade pins And so it's this kind of thing.
• 3:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So you do these bracelets.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Well, i didn't want to do the plastic ones because meh.
• 3:07
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So I and I was inspired by Alex's cute little bracelets and I have now made 50 bracelets.
• 3:20
  Kira Derryberry: She wasn't expecting 50.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Like if you could have seen her physical reaction to be saying that.
• 3:27
  Kira Derryberry: Yes, i'll, i'll save you one.
• 3:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'll save you one.
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  Kira Derryberry: I can't wait.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm very excited.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So, um, jackson, i have dead income, a grateful dad or dead in co this week, and so I've made some debt and company ones and I'm making some for the gorge for day 50.
• 3:40
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So so fun, yeah.
• 3:41
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So, as your windows are being broken, I'm just crafting over here just crafting away.
• 3:45
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And I don't think you call actually running a piece of string through beads crafting, but I'm calling it crafting baby Lucy's doing it too, you know, like she's got her own her own kit.
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  Kira Derryberry: It's very popular right now.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It is The beating It is I used to make.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Did you ever make those friendship bracelets?
• 4:01
  Kira Derryberry: I know that.
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  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm older, but I think it comes back around every 10 years or so.
• 4:04
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You probably didn't make the braided barrettes that we did during the preppy era, but yeah, that was very preppy.
• 4:11
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You would braid them and they'd match your outfits.
• 4:13
  Kira Derryberry: Oh man.
• 4:15
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But yeah, the friendship bracelets, those were really popular.
• 4:20
  Kira Derryberry: We went through a phase of friendship bracelets, probably around like fifths and sixth grade, and we were learning.
• 4:25
  Kira Derryberry: I was never very good at learning all the different knots to get the flat, the flat one, you know, the wider one.
• 4:31
  Kira Derryberry: So I was always just like braiding it.
• 4:34
  Kira Derryberry: And then and then I didn't have the right thread for it, you know the actual thicker thread for it.
• 4:39
  Kira Derryberry: So I had, like I found some like sewing machine thread, so I made these like very microscopic braided bracelets.
• 4:49
  Kira Derryberry: And I took it over to my friend Ashley Meredith.
• 4:52
  Kira Derryberry: They lived around the corner for me.
• 4:53
  Kira Derryberry: I took it over to them to give it to them And they had a baby, like an older lady that used to babysit them, be their nanny.
• 4:59
  Kira Derryberry: And she opened the door and she I'm sure she wasn't that old because I was like 10.
• 5:04
  Kira Derryberry: She seemed like 105 years old, but she answered the door and I remember her.
• 5:09
  Kira Derryberry: She was my age, probably 54.
• 5:10
  Kira Derryberry: I don't know, she just seemed so old.
• 5:12
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, 54.
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  Kira Derryberry: She answered the door and she goes Oh, what do you want?
• 5:16
  Kira Derryberry: Like she's not nice.
• 5:17
  Kira Derryberry: And I was like, well, i made, i made them some friendship bracelets and I handed it to these like thin threads, you know, to her, and she puts it in her hand, she goes it's just garbage.
• 5:28
  Kira Derryberry: No, she goes this is just garbage, these are just threads.
• 5:32
  Kira Derryberry: And I said no, no, no, they're braided.
• 5:34
  Kira Derryberry: And she was like, well, they're busy.
• 5:36
  Kira Derryberry: And she shut the door.
• 5:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Wow, Oh, childhood Man, And we wonder why we need therapy as we get older.
• 5:46
  Kira Derryberry: Constantly people pleasing No, no, no, no.
• 5:48
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Wait door slams That slam, but I mean in her defense, they were practically made with hair, i mean yeah.
• 5:54
  Kira Derryberry: I mean they were, they were made with the thinnest, thinnest threading, And she was right.
• 6:02
  Kira Derryberry: She was right to question.
• 6:03
  Kira Derryberry: I like it.
• 6:05
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Oh well, fun, fun, fun, fun times.
• 6:07
  Kira Derryberry: That's a fun memory So all right.
• 6:09
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• 6:13
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• 6:15
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• 7:10
  Kira Derryberry: And we are back.
• 7:14
  Kira Derryberry: Yes, you know I was sitting around today avoiding responsibility because so many people are off work today at Student Team It is, it is And celebrating, and.
• 7:24
  Kira Derryberry: But I had a few things to do and I thought, you know, i have.
• 7:29
  Kira Derryberry: Let me just have it.
• 7:30
  Kira Derryberry: It's raining, i'm just gonna, i'm just gonna relax.
• 7:33
  Kira Derryberry: Today, kevin and I played video games And then I knew the second that I sat down to work today that all the things that I forgot that I'm supposed to be doing rushed, rushed back like this kind of like a running stream of consciousness list that somehow, sitting on the couch had erased, like fun, like you know, like on the couch there was no sense of urgency of.
• 7:58
  Kira Derryberry: The couch was a safe place away from the list, but now the list has found me.
• 8:04
  Kira Derryberry: Oh.
• 8:05
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I hate it when it does that.
• 8:06
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, and the deadlines approach.
• 8:13
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I am with you 100%, man.
• 8:15
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I, you know.
• 8:16
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, i kind of thought I had a much I don't know.
• 8:20
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I thought, oh, I've got, i've got a day, man, i've got an easy day.
• 8:24
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: No, no, mary did not, mary did not.
• 8:26
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Mary has been busy Like it feels like every minute of the day, like it's just been crazy to me, like I was like, oh, it's just, i have this little meeting four hours And then, oh, i had the, i had two coaching calls and then podcasting And I'm like, well, the day's gone, it's 430.
• 8:42
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Also, i texted my husband earlier and I said I think we need to order some stuff for the grocery store And he said, well, i only need American cheese.
• 8:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: He loves his American cheese slices.
• 8:54
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: This is how the man rolls.
• 8:56
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: He has like five things.
• 8:57
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: He orders Diapepsy creamer for his coffee.
• 8:59
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: American cheese is one of them, for sure.
• 9:01
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And I'm like, well, awesome Guys, all I need is there's a specific salsa.
• 9:06
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I like It's the super chunky salsa.
• 9:07
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's like that.
• 9:08
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know, it's pretty much tomatoes and onions and cilantro on a chip.
• 9:13
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I was like I need salsa and ice cream.
• 9:20
  Kira Derryberry: So your list is different than mine, i think it is Wow.
• 9:23
  Kira Derryberry: Just a wow.
• 9:27
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Can you imagine the poor Instagram person Like what are they smoking over it?
• 9:31
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know these things are mine, so I have not placed an order because I already feel judged by my own husband, by my own husband by the way, You know, I you know.
• 9:42
  Kira Derryberry: So what?
• 9:43
  Kira Derryberry: Get your ice cream and your salsa.
• 9:45
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, What's your life?
• 9:48
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean it is my life.
• 9:49
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah it's now or never.
• 9:51
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: There you go So anyway, let's talk about it, yes.
• 9:59
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So, yes, this is something.
• 10:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I know we've talked about this before, but this was a conversation we actually had during our association call this morning And it's something that a lot of our members have talked about and I wanted to mention it here.
• 10:11
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So it's the need.
• 10:14
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Is there a need?
• 10:15
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I guess we'll start with, but then is there a need and how to create a personal project and stick to it, meaning just that creative project?
• 10:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: that is not.
• 10:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't have to market it and worry about marketing it.
• 10:32
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't even need to put it on social media, i don't need to price it.
• 10:35
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I just doing something creative, creatively because it's imported, or is it not imported?
• 10:43
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And that was actually a conversation that was had.
• 10:45
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So I know your thoughts on this, but, yeah, i have a lot of thoughts on that.
• 10:49
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, yeah, well, you know, i mean, i guess the question is what drives you as a photographer Let's not use the word artist but just as a photographer?
• 11:02
  Kira Derryberry: So I mean, i feel like we have two different camps here.
• 11:04
  Kira Derryberry: We have a hundred percent, yeah, we have you who is like a hundred percent, you know, success, profit driven right A hundred percent, and me who's?
• 11:14
  Kira Derryberry: you know, i don't want to say I don't have that as a goal, cause obviously I do Cause I get upset about stuff You're very easy to.
• 11:21
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I think you can put them in buckets Like you're good.
• 11:24
  Kira Derryberry: I can, i can compartmentalize, but yeah, but but for me, yeah, being able to be an artist is very important to me And I I I've complained about this for months now.
• 11:33
  Kira Derryberry: I don't, i don't really feel like one right now, cause I feel like I'm just making money, which is what the goal is, right.
• 11:40
  Kira Derryberry: But so for someone like me, i think that a personal project that doesn't have to answer to anyone, that's the, that's the thing.
• 11:48
  Kira Derryberry: The thing that makes me icky about it And it's icky is the wrong word but just the reason I don't do it, a failure to launch is because I'm always trying to figure out how does that make me money?
• 11:56
  Kira Derryberry: I want to do a personal project, but how can it make me money?
• 11:59
  Kira Derryberry: Because I I'm just like being torn between these two halves of my brain.
• 12:04
  Kira Derryberry: You know, i know I need to make it make money, because I have very limited time to be working on anything that doesn't make me money.
• 12:10
  Kira Derryberry: So, but then it makes me not want to do it, i know, you know.
• 12:14
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: No, i get it And I think that I, i think I'm chump, i think I'm coming around Like I don't know that I'm going to do it, i'm going to be very honest, but I do feel like I spent a lot of time going.
• 12:26
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But how could I?
• 12:27
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: but how could we flip that and make money with it?
• 12:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And sometimes that just isn't necessary.
• 12:32
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's just like.
• 12:33
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know as much as I, as much as I spend talking about charitable marketing right, and I'm a big fan of charitable marketing.
• 12:40
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I love to connect with the charity and make it a marketing opportunity.
• 12:43
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But sometimes I just want to give and I don't want to be recognized for it.
• 12:46
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't, you know what I mean.
• 12:47
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't know if I, if somebody needs, or if there's a I just just giving is giving.
• 12:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So I think it's the same thing, kind of with a, with a creative or a personal project, like sometimes you just need it And I don't know if I need it.
• 13:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But I feel like I'm getting there, like I've never felt, because this was actually my idea, which is the craziest part of all And I think people are like wait a minute, mary Fitzdaler is talking about doing something that's not, that doesn't involve anything, not a trophy, not money, not anything just doing.
• 13:17
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But I guess I'm trying to understand why do we need to do it?
• 13:23
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Does that make sense, like what is the what?
• 13:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: what purpose does it serve?
• 13:27
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And coming from a place of full ignorance, i've never really done it.
• 13:33
  Kira Derryberry: Oh huh.
• 13:35
  Kira Derryberry: Well, that's a great question, because I have done it.
• 13:38
  Kira Derryberry: I've made lots of art projects with no end in sight.
• 13:42
  Kira Derryberry: You know what I mean, and I guess for me there is a sense of accomplishment that comes with it.
• 13:50
  Kira Derryberry: There's a sense of stretching myself and challenging myself to see if I could do something.
• 13:54
  Kira Derryberry: Most of the time, if I'm doing a creative project for myself, when I did them, it was to try something out, to see if I could do something, to push myself creatively, to try a new tool, to try a new lighting, to try a new concept, and that was what drove me.
• 14:11
  Kira Derryberry: Can I do it?
• 14:12
  Kira Derryberry: Yes, i can do it.
• 14:13
  Kira Derryberry: What a relief.
• 14:15
  Kira Derryberry: You know what I mean.
• 14:16
  Kira Derryberry: And not only can I do it, but I can do it with some skill, so that it is art.
• 14:22
  Kira Derryberry: I have always enjoyed creating pieces like that for me because it made me happy.
• 14:27
  Kira Derryberry: I did a lot of it during the pandemic with my collage work with no real point at the end, but it's still something I want to pursue.
• 14:35
  Kira Derryberry: But I loved that.
• 14:37
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: By the way, i loved that.
• 14:38
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I really loved.
• 14:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know, i did.
• 14:40
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I really really enjoyed that work you were doing.
• 14:44
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I forgot about that I forgot about that, see Gosh, and that was so cool.
• 14:48
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And this was mixed media.
• 14:50
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: No, it wasn't, it was all done digitally, right?
• 14:54
  Kira Derryberry: It was all done digitally.
• 14:54
  Kira Derryberry: But what I would love to do, i want to actually do it as a physical.
• 14:59
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: That's what I want.
• 14:59
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I want one of those.
• 15:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I would buy one of those.
• 15:01
  Kira Derryberry: Well, I think so, But then again I can't make something with the.
• 15:06
  Kira Derryberry: It's the same thing like when I used to do creative projects.
• 15:09
  Kira Derryberry: I can't shoot it for competition, For you know what I mean When I would do something that was different and was a creative project.
• 15:16
  Kira Derryberry: Everybody's like oh yeah, so what are you shooting for competition?
• 15:18
  Kira Derryberry: It will not work if I have this goal of putting it and having it scored.
• 15:24
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Right Later percent.
• 15:26
  Kira Derryberry: It won't work.
• 15:26
  Kira Derryberry: Too much pressure, i'll get to my head about it.
• 15:28
  Kira Derryberry: No, so there were times where I didn't.
• 15:31
  Kira Derryberry: You know, i put images in that were not client work.
• 15:33
  Kira Derryberry: There were personal projects, but they were not designed to get me that merit, right?
• 15:37
  Kira Derryberry: You know what I mean.
• 15:38
  Kira Derryberry: And so I say that you got excited when you're like, oh yeah, that's the kind of art that I would buy, and I go, oh yeah, i think so too.
• 15:44
  Kira Derryberry: But then I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 15:46
  Kira Derryberry: I cannot put that out there, because the first step is to like can I do it?
• 15:52
  Kira Derryberry: I have a vision in my head for what it needs to look like.
• 15:55
  Kira Derryberry: It will take practice, it will take being able to work on it continuously for a length of time, and that's the part that scares me too.
• 16:05
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, because I don't have a continuous amount.
• 16:08
  Kira Derryberry: My days are broken up into little, small increments of working on a dozen things that you know on any given day.
• 16:14
  Kira Derryberry: So the thought of like, locking myself in a room with some paint in a printer you know what I mean Like, because that's what it'll take.
• 16:21
  Kira Derryberry: It'll take a big printer, you know a big, high end printer, so that I can print the pieces I need and paint on them.
• 16:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Oh, wow Yeah.
• 16:29
  Kira Derryberry: And so it's a big.
• 16:30
  Kira Derryberry: it's a big thing, but I want to do it so bad I just I basically will have to retire to be able to do it.
• 16:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Or or no, I don't know about the printer piece, might have to work it, but I do think, oh, okay, see, no see.
• 16:45
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I immediately went to a place of, oh, create something it doesn't need to be, because I'm thinking, oh my God, i would love to do that.
• 16:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Like we're getting ready to hold our brush oil workshop, which I'm so excited about, but I don't brush oil paint, Don't even know that I really want to.
• 16:59
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean, not really even super interested.
• 17:02
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know what I mean Like.
• 17:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But like what you're talking about, i would do that in a heartbeat.
• 17:06
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I would sign up because that's something I feel like I could do.
• 17:08
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I feel like I could create, put stuff together And I, mine, would have a lot of letters that like words involved And I love that, like I love Ashley Longshore, like, yeah, like that type of stuff.
• 17:19
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I love, love, love.
• 17:19
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But I mean like I would sign up and go to a retreat or go do something, not a retreat, like it's just five amazing friends that we just did that.
• 17:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I would sign up and do that in a heartbeat.
• 17:29
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But that's not even what you're talking about.
• 17:31
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You're talking about a personal project.
• 17:33
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: See, i don't know why I can't wrap my head around this piece And I know this sounds silly because so many of you all out there are so incredibly creative and your artists and things.
• 17:42
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And I really struggle, guys.
• 17:43
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I really struggle to put myself in that creative space And the older I get, the harder it is.
• 17:49
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's so much harder.
• 17:51
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I spend so much time worrying about hitting my monthly goals and moving and marketing and this and that, and now digital marketing, and now you know I just I want to do better And I don't know I was just like is there some processes or is there something you could do to put yourself in that better creative space?
• 18:08
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I used to be.
• 18:10
  Kira Derryberry: I don't, i don't, well one.
• 18:11
  Kira Derryberry: I think let's give ourselves some grace.
• 18:13
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: We have to have the answers on that.
• 18:15
  Kira Derryberry: You know what I mean, Because our lives are not set up in a way that is open to this yet Right?
• 18:21
  Kira Derryberry: So first we have to figure out is it something that we can do?
• 18:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Correct.
• 18:26
  Kira Derryberry: And is it something?
• 18:26
  Kira Derryberry: if we can do it?
• 18:27
  Kira Derryberry: Where does it fit in?
• 18:29
  Kira Derryberry: Right, because I love you are so like end in mind person.
• 18:34
  Kira Derryberry: I am right, and we're taught this like seven habits.
• 18:38
  Kira Derryberry: Right, like this is part of why we both have great businesses.
• 18:42
  Kira Derryberry: It's part of why we've been, you know, we've done okay at leadership.
• 18:46
  Kira Derryberry: You know what I mean, but it's but it's, you know.
• 18:49
  Kira Derryberry: It's because when we talk about big concepts, i mean this is like a.
• 18:52
  Kira Derryberry: This is a big rock, right, this is a.
• 18:54
  Kira Derryberry: This is a piece that doesn't fit into our lives currently.
• 18:56
  Kira Derryberry: Correct.
• 18:56
  Kira Derryberry: So the problem I have that is the reason I never launch.
• 19:02
  Kira Derryberry: It is because I don't want to have the end in mind on this, like okay, and you cannot pull yourself off of the end in mind part.
• 19:10
  Kira Derryberry: Correct.
• 19:11
  Kira Derryberry: Like where is this going to go?
• 19:12
  Kira Derryberry: How is it going to look?
• 19:14
  Kira Derryberry: Where can we do it?
• 19:15
  Kira Derryberry: And how will we make money at it, And which is okay, because that's that's yeah who?
• 19:20
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: we are right.
• 19:22
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, but to me, the idea of waking up on a morning, having a cup of coffee, going into a studio space with a can you know, a big easel or a canvas and a print like a black and white print on it and then spending the day like painting on it at my own pace, with no interruptions, with like music going, sounds flipping amazing.
• 19:44
  Kira Derryberry: That sounds like.
• 19:45
  Kira Derryberry: That sounds like so much fun to me.
• 19:47
  Kira Derryberry: But the I don't know.
• 19:49
  Kira Derryberry: I don't have a space to do that unless I cleaned out our back room, which is possibility to.
• 19:55
  Kira Derryberry: I don't have the printer because it's going to take lots and lots of prints and I'm not going to pay.
• 20:00
  Kira Derryberry: I'm not going to print that at a lab and have it come back and then Because you don't know what you want until you get into it, i got to get into it, i got to play with it right, and I want to do it at a large scale.
• 20:08
  Kira Derryberry: So these I have a large printer?
• 20:10
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, it's got to have a large printer.
• 20:12
  Kira Derryberry: I've literally almost bought a can of printer like half a dozen times thinking for this one idea, because it doesn't make sense for me to print stuff here for my, you know for no, i agree.
• 20:22
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, not any commercial.
• 20:23
  Kira Derryberry: I can't justify it Like.
• 20:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I know I also use it.
• 20:26
  Kira Derryberry: No, because we don't frame here.
• 20:27
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Is there a space that you can rent like an art space, a creativity space that has all those things that you could just rent for the day and you go in and put your music on and you go, maybe?
• 20:36
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean I'm not.
• 20:38
  Kira Derryberry: I bet there are places like oh sure, My dad probably has places Yeah.
• 20:42
  Kira Derryberry: Like a lot of stuff, but also there's a art park here in town, right, That I could look into.
• 20:46
  Kira Derryberry: But I don't, you know, i would also be a little vulnerable with this and I don't think I'd want to do it in front of people.
• 20:52
  Kira Derryberry: I understand I could see that.
• 20:54
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I would need there, by the way, i mean I wouldn't need there because it has to be very I mean, and that's how you would do it.
• 21:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Other people it might be different, it might be, you know, a photography project or whatever.
• 21:04
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I just I think that I, i think, and I'm not.
• 21:09
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I am not upset with myself, i am not down on myself, so I, you know, i'm not, but I think I've become so incredibly goal oriented and starting with the end in mind driven that I don't know if I'm enjoying the journey anymore.
• 21:26
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And I and sometimes the journey is just get up.
• 21:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So this is what I tried to do yesterday.
• 21:31
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: This is how I ended up making 50 bracelets.
• 21:33
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So I did.
• 21:34
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I had nothing on my schedule yesterday Nothing.
• 21:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And, guys, when you like nothing, i can't tell you a time where I was not Had a session, had a consultation call, was on a flight, was going to a concert, was with a family event, doing a retreat.
• 21:50
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean I had nothing.
• 21:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And it was Father's Day and my son is in here and Alex and Darrell were going to see Ridiculously stupid movies that I would never in a million years go see.
• 22:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It was like I tried trying to tell Jackson.
• 22:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I got the name so confused.
• 22:04
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I was like they the impossible flash in the beasts and he's like that.
• 22:09
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Those aren't movies, it was anyway it was the flash and it was something else, like transformers, but I was confusing them.
• 22:15
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know, it's like the transforming flashes and he's like that's.
• 22:17
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: That's not a movie.
• 22:18
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And Darrell and Alex, they had their own dad and daughter time.
• 22:23
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It was fantastic and I was home for by myself because they did two movies.
• 22:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: They did it too.
• 22:26
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It was a big day in this house, hmm, um, so I was me and I sat here and I was paralyzed by Just didn't even know what to do.
• 22:36
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I I don't think I watched a movie and did not.
• 22:40
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I Was an also reading a book or on my computer.
• 22:46
  Kira Derryberry: You watch.
• 22:47
  Kira Derryberry: I just want to be clear you didn't, you didn't also.
• 22:49
  Kira Derryberry: Okay, you watched a movie and I and you didn't play on your phone.
• 22:53
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I didn't read a book and I didn't get on my computer I can't tell you the last time I want and like, said, what'd you watch?
• 22:58
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Um, it was a really bad.
• 23:01
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It was called.
• 23:02
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Oh, no, it was cute, it was.
• 23:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Um, it was a movie with.
• 23:06
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It was on Netflix.
• 23:08
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It was the guy from Third row.
• 23:11
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: No, my golly John, let's go no close.
• 23:16
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: The.
• 23:17
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: What was that?
• 23:18
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: should big bang?
• 23:19
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: you know the guy from Big Bang?
• 23:20
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, the Sheldon.
• 23:22
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Sheldon, it was him, and And about him and his partner and it was a.
• 23:27
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It was a really cute.
• 23:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It was a sad movie, unfortunately.
• 23:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I didn't mean to watch a sad movie, but I really like him and I watched the whole thing.
• 23:33
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't remember the name of it, but I watched it.
• 23:35
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I can tell you exactly what, how Sully Field was in it.
• 23:37
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's like I remember all the pieces.
• 23:38
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I watched two movies and then I watched another, pretty Marge.
• 23:43
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I was with Ashton Kutcher and Reese Witherspoon.
• 23:46
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know I love Reese Witherspoon.
• 23:48
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Oh, i saw that one.
• 23:49
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, my place or your brother's or something like that.
• 23:51
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, i watched now the second movie.
• 23:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I was.
• 23:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I was bracelet.
• 23:53
  Kira Derryberry: I love a rom-com.
• 23:54
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I was.
• 23:54
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I do love a rom-com.
• 23:55
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I was doing bracelets during this that's.
• 23:58
  Kira Derryberry: That's the kind of thing I mean.
• 23:59
  Kira Derryberry: I could.
• 23:59
  Kira Derryberry: I, as long as you're not playing on your front like I could.
• 24:02
  Kira Derryberry: I could do a craft and watch a movie.
• 24:04
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, I could you know I mean but you know, I normally watch TV and I'm reading.
• 24:09
  Kira Derryberry: I don't know how you do that.
• 24:09
  Kira Derryberry: I can't.
• 24:14
  Kira Derryberry: My problem is, it's like when I try to read, i just have to reread the same sentence, because my brain just goes.
• 24:18
  Kira Derryberry: It's almost like a meditation, oh, and so like I don't, i don't even take in what I'm reading.
• 24:23
  Kira Derryberry: I'm just like I start thinking about something, but my eyes are reading and then I go wait, what did I just read?
• 24:29
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Okay, I do know what you're talking about.
• 24:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I've definitely read like that.
• 24:32
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean, i've definitely done that before.
• 24:33
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I like, if I'm and sometimes it's because I'm rereading I'm, you know, rereading.
• 24:36
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Like you know, i just have some new business books in that I'm super excited about.
• 24:40
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So I was so, tim to just you to pick one.
• 24:41
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Stop it.
• 24:42
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: That was so you know.
• 24:46
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But I didn't.
• 24:46
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I made myself just sit there and just stare at a movie and I really enjoyed it.
• 24:51
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But I did.
• 24:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I was like I would every once in a while think, wait a minute, i can't just sit here and just watch a movie.
• 24:57
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: What do I think?
• 24:58
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Who do I think I am, you know, queen of Sheba I don't even that's a real thing but so Then the personal project conversation, and I thought you know it is important and, and and it's not something, it's something I'm so out of touch with that I wouldn't even know where to start.
• 25:13
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: At least You know where you would start I.
• 25:17
  Kira Derryberry: Feel, you know, it's scary about it is I feel like I would buy this printer because I don't see a way to do it without having a printer, because I can't do it small, yeah, you know.
• 25:26
  Kira Derryberry: So I'd buy this printer because it would kill me to like, try this on like an expensive print that I paid for from the lab, right, yeah, on the right kind of paper to be able to hold it, and I they would have to be some experimenting on the paper type.
• 25:40
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah they have to be all that Um, But I would buy the printer and then I would do one and I would go.
• 25:46
  Kira Derryberry: You know what this is.
• 25:48
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, i don't even like it, i don't even enjoy it.
• 25:50
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't even say you would have to almost find a space that had everything that you could rent and To make sure.
• 25:56
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: and then you know, like if you print the space more than once or twice, you're like, okay, maybe I'm on to something here, like I think that's almost how you would have to do it.
• 26:02
  Kira Derryberry: I Just want to clean out this back room in the other side of the studio.
• 26:07
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah put the printer in there.
• 26:10
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I Don't think we should buy a printer for something that we're not doing, though I do have to.
• 26:14
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, see, there's, there's.
• 26:16
  Kira Derryberry: There's the rough, i know so that would be yours.
• 26:20
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't even know what mine would be, but I, i, i love, i love yours, i love yours a lot.
• 26:24
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I think that's fantastic.
• 26:26
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't know what mine would be and you know, maybe it's not.
• 26:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean, does a personal product?
• 26:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: here's another question Does a personal project Does it?
• 26:32
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean it certainly, guys, doesn't have to even involve a camera, it doesn't have to even involve Oh, no, no, no, no, so what?
• 26:38
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: are other kinds of you know, i don't know.
• 26:42
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I feel like I've just become I don't know.
• 26:45
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I feel like I've become almost fear is a big word, but it's like I'm almost afraid to even try or do anything, start anything different, because I just feel I don't know, i'm like everything's fine, why don't I want to?
• 26:56
  Kira Derryberry: I don't know, muck it up by trying something new.
• 26:59
  Kira Derryberry: You know you should do, you should learn how to play a ukulele And I'm not joking, it is so fun, okay, and you can, and you can, they're not expensive And you can watch YouTube videos and you can learn how to play all the Dave Matthews songs on a ukulele.
• 27:14
  Kira Derryberry: And that sounds like a great personal project to me.
• 27:18
  Kira Derryberry: I love, i love an instrument I have never played an instrument in my life, but I don't.
• 27:23
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm not against it Like I'm not against any of it Like I.
• 27:26
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So I feel like I'm trying really hard to be more open about these things and not, yeah, there was a time in my life where it was just really cool to just hate things.
• 27:35
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I would never sing, I'll never do these things, But you know that's a great idea, And Dave plays a ukulele, by the way, he has this tiny little guitar that he'll play certain songs on.
• 27:43
  Kira Derryberry: Ukuleles are so fun And you don't have to be incredibly skilled.
• 27:46
  Kira Derryberry: You can learn like three notes on a ukulele and you'll play so many songs.
• 27:50
  Kira Derryberry: Okay, you know what I mean.
• 27:52
  Kira Derryberry: How does it work?
• 27:52
  Kira Derryberry: There's all these fingernails.
• 27:53
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Can you have fingernails?
• 27:54
  Kira Derryberry: Well, your fingernails aren't, aren't they long at all?
• 27:56
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, no, you'd be fine.
• 27:57
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Okay, i might do that, guys.
• 27:59
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So I can't wait to see her.
• 28:02
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You, i well, because you know me and you're the same way.
• 28:05
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You can't just go in, we're going to go all in.
• 28:07
  Kira Derryberry: It's like I can't just be beating bracelets.
• 28:09
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I now have an entire.
• 28:10
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's a.
• 28:12
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: She's got a shackle box of every beat, every letter, every everything you can ever want.
• 28:18
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean, it's insane.
• 28:19
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's going to get your shoot together bag, though.
• 28:20
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Take that much.
• 28:21
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Okay, i'm going to look into this option for my life.
• 28:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm going to look into it.
• 28:26
  Kira Derryberry: I mean, i'm not.
• 28:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I love that idea though.
• 28:30
  Kira Derryberry: It's I.
• 28:31
  Kira Derryberry: I bought one during the pandemic and I used to, but I used to play guitar.
• 28:35
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, you do, And I.
• 28:37
  Kira Derryberry: I found.
• 28:37
  Kira Derryberry: I found the chords to be fairly different enough from guitar and small.
• 28:43
  Kira Derryberry: There's not as many strings on it too, So that's less intimidating, right Like there's, I think there's like four on it, but I found it.
• 28:51
  Kira Derryberry: I really had to learn notes.
• 28:53
  Kira Derryberry: It doesn't play like a guitar does in my mind you know what I mean, So it was kind of like learning new for me.
• 28:58
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I never played the guitar, so it won't be any confusion.
• 29:00
  Kira Derryberry: Well, and you don't have, and you don't have to have the kind of handstrings like you do for guitar too, because it's so small and the strings are light.
• 29:06
  Kira Derryberry: So and there and there's so many like beginner YouTube or or TikTok channels where it's like you know learn to play the ukulele.
• 29:15
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know I've never thought of this in a million years, but I love this idea.
• 29:19
  Kira Derryberry: I wish you guys could talk to us.
• 29:20
  Kira Derryberry: I want to go what do y'all think?
• 29:24
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I think it's a terrible idea.
• 29:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm here.
• 29:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: No, i like it.
• 29:27
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean, my kids are going to make fun of me for sure.
• 29:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know what I?
• 29:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: if they do, you send them to me, i am I am.
• 29:33
  Kira Derryberry: I'll give them a swift.
• 29:33
  Kira Derryberry: A swift smack, a swift kick in the moody.
• 29:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, no, i like it.
• 29:44
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Okay, that is, that's a see, so that's great.
• 29:46
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So maybe the maybe, the point of this is if this, if you guys are feeling any blocks or you're not you know what I mean Or you're not just make a, you know, reach out to you or hopefully you have that accountability group out there but reach out and say, okay, let's think of ways that we can do this, because I think I like that idea a lot And I'd like it a lot more, as I think I like it a lot more than you probably even thought I would.
• 30:10
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I think did you think.
• 30:11
  Kira Derryberry: Did you think I was going to say that's the stupidest idea?
• 30:13
  Kira Derryberry: or laugh at you Kind of?
• 30:14
  Kira Derryberry: I thought you'd be like okay.
• 30:19
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Talk about doing things like when you were in fifth grade or eighth grade.
• 30:24
  Kira Derryberry: Oh, this is a dumb idea.
• 30:26
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Okay, i know, okay, i like it.
• 30:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And because music is live, music is becoming such a bigger part of my life, because my kids are, you know, i have to find something to do and music is my golf, you know.
• 30:36
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And meaning I don't, you know, i don't play tennis anymore and I don't do those things, so but I was, i have played with the idea of learning pickleball.
• 30:46
  Kira Derryberry: Actually I'm not opposed to that too.
• 30:48
  Kira Derryberry: Like everyone's playing it.
• 30:49
  Kira Derryberry: Kevin asked me the other day if I wanted to learn how to play pickleball.
• 30:52
  Kira Derryberry: I'm not opposed to it.
• 30:53
  Kira Derryberry: I think you would love it.
• 30:54
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Honestly because our volume studio.
• 30:57
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: They do a big fundraiser.
• 30:58
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: There's one of our dear friends has started.
• 31:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's called Laser's Ladybugs and it's for mental health, specifically in children.
• 31:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: They've been holding these pickleball tournaments and they raise money for mental health in children.
• 31:08
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I love John, him and his wife Renee who started it.
• 31:12
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: They're starting a facility.
• 31:13
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: They really want us to play.
• 31:15
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm like and I loved tennis when I played tennis And I think I'm maybe up to my tennis days are over, but I might like pickleball, i don't know.
• 31:24
  Kira Derryberry: I don't know.
• 31:24
  Kira Derryberry: I honestly, it's been explained to me like nine times.
• 31:27
  Kira Derryberry: I never tell them.
• 31:27
  Kira Derryberry: I'm like, yeah, say less, Like I'll just go, I don't I still don't know what you're saying, but just put me out there, put me in coach and just tell me what to do when I'm out there.
• 31:36
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't want.
• 31:36
  Kira Derryberry: I can't conceptualize pickleball, for some reason.
• 31:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Like.
• 31:39
  Kira Derryberry: I've never seen it played.
• 31:40
  Kira Derryberry: Okay, i people just love it and they're like you should come.
• 31:43
  Kira Derryberry: And then they tell me what you do And I'm just like, literally I could go on a tennis court and you can throw pickles at me And I'll be like okay, do I toss it back?
• 31:49
  Kira Derryberry: Is that?
• 31:51
  Kira Derryberry: is that what?
• 31:51
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: we're doing Yeah Cause I'm in.
• 31:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, it actually does.
• 31:53
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It surprisingly does not involve any pickles.
• 31:55
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Well news to me No, i think you and Kevin would love pickleball.
• 32:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: That's really a really great thing, and it's.
• 32:02
  Kira Derryberry: It's an activity screen.
• 32:04
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't think the ball is even green.
• 32:05
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't know why they call it pickleball.
• 32:07
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Maybe I thought it was more like it's a small little space and, like you know, you say put me in a pickle put me in a pickle.
• 32:19
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know, you know, like, say put me, i, I don't know Wonder why they call it pickleball.
• 32:23
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: We're gonna have to do some research on that.
• 32:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm going to some weird places, i know I'm like huh, this is a very interesting conversation.
• 32:28
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: We're having it all but pickleball.
• 32:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But anyway, i might, but I, the music thing, i, i think I might, i think I might try it.
• 32:36
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I might try it.
• 32:37
  Kira Derryberry: I've already.
• 32:37
  Kira Derryberry: I've already found you.
• 32:38
  Kira Derryberry: Look, i'm already, i've already Googled Eucalylate, Eucalylate's for you.
• 32:42
  Kira Derryberry: Yes, i'm, i'm texting you a link right now.
• 32:44
  Kira Derryberry: There's some pretty ones.
• 32:44
  Kira Derryberry: Oh, i love it They.
• 32:45
  Kira Derryberry: They come in like basically a range of of prices and quality.
• 32:49
  Kira Derryberry: You know what I?
• 32:49
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: mean I should start kind of low, i don't need a.
• 32:52
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, these are probably not super cheap.
• 32:54
  Kira Derryberry: I have no idea, but this is a brand called Luna guitars, okay, and they do have them at the music store, i believe, next door to my studio.
• 33:06
  Kira Derryberry: Oh, nice, but anyway, they're adorable.
• 33:11
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, i got some pretty ones.
• 33:12
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Okay, i'm going to definitely be checking that out.
• 33:14
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: What was the name of the company?
• 33:15
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: you said Luna, luna guitars.
• 33:17
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Okay, luna guitars.
• 33:18
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Oh, you're going to text me, so I'll look at that.
• 33:20
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I did Well, i like it.
• 33:22
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Well, personal projects And anyway, i do think it's important And I think that I think I've discounted them And I think I'm going to stop doing that.
• 33:29
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I think it's.
• 33:30
  Kira Derryberry: Well, I think that's really nice of you to say.
• 33:33
  Kira Derryberry: sometimes I say stuff and I'm I brace my stuff, for her to be like okay, Kira, but you need to make money.
• 33:39
  Kira Derryberry: Okay, I know.
• 33:40
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I know And I still feel that way.
• 33:42
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know I feel that way, But I think that I feel that way is why I never do it.
• 33:45
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But do you think that sometimes, if you really, if you get a great personal project and it's inspiring you, that it makes you, it feels you how do I put this?
• 33:55
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But because you're getting fulfillment from that, that it makes you more productive in these other areas, Does that make sense?
• 34:02
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Like if you are kind of just feeling in a rut, meaning just day you're not doing anything that's fulfilling you creatively?
• 34:08
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Do you feel like it takes away from your ability to be a great business owner, marketer, producer, you know precision photographer or whatever, Because you're feeling kind of you're going through the motions but you're losing that spark?
• 34:23
  Kira Derryberry: so to speak.
• 34:24
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Does that?
• 34:24
  Kira Derryberry: make sense.
• 34:25
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, So if you're kind of feeding that beast, you can get through the other stuff a little more happily.
• 34:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: you know, maybe Yeah, i'm asking, i don't know.
• 34:32
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean, it seems to make sense, right.
• 34:33
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Happy, you know.
• 34:35
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: happy people, you know, work more productively, they sleep better, they, you know, right, i mean, that's you know, is that true?
• 34:42
  Kira Derryberry: But there's also another, there's another.
• 34:44
  Kira Derryberry: Here's another idea.
• 34:46
  Kira Derryberry: I could be setting myself up in the next few years where I could hire people to do the work that I do all the time.
• 34:54
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah.
• 34:55
  Kira Derryberry: And then I could do what I wanted, correct And be the principal person, and that concept has been told to me multiple times by you and many of our other friends.
• 35:03
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah.
• 35:05
  Kira Derryberry: And it's real hard.
• 35:06
  Kira Derryberry: It's a real hard concept to grasp because I'll have, like like photographer friends who be like no, you need to set yourself up so you can take time off, and like, when you leave the business, like people are still working And and then I'll run it by like a friend who's not in the business.
• 35:19
  Kira Derryberry: You know like I'll just be like no people want to work with you, like they.
• 35:23
  Kira Derryberry: You know, like they.
• 35:24
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: And I know that's true, they do, but don't you see where we go?
• 35:27
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I agree, i 100% agree.
• 35:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: However, if you, if you take your name out of it and you create a business that would run without you in it, you're in it.
• 35:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know what I mean?
• 35:39
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yeah, boy, i mean isn't?
• 35:42
  Kira Derryberry: that all of our dream.
• 35:43
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I mean, i am, i did not do that, but, boy, i really thought about it, and that's certainly what we did with our volume business.
• 35:49
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Do they love it now that they know Andy or I or my mom and they show up?
• 35:52
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yes, but if we didn't, we still are making money, it's just a different.
• 35:57
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's hard And because I think that sometimes, as creators, we get offended by the motion, the notion like, oh, if I don't, it's like people that say, if I don't edit it myself or retouch it myself, it's not my work.
• 36:09
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Well, no, it actually is Like you created it, you posed it, you lit it, you know, unless your work is painting or what have you.
• 36:14
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But I mean, yes, people love Curandairy Berry, but people are also going to be able to love a headshot by you know.
• 36:21
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: You know, rookie, if he came in which he's, he's not, he's not currently open for that.
• 36:27
  Kira Derryberry: He doesn't have posable thumbs.
• 36:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: So it's gonna be the first problem.
• 36:31
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Well, the good news, guys, is we're going to take a month off.
• 36:34
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: We're getting ready to take the month of July off from pot, just from podcasting.
• 36:38
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But we're going to see when we come back in August if we have ukulele lead, if we have created our personal projects and where we are with them.
• 36:47
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: We're going to see if rookie thumb situation changes, which it's highly doubtful at this age.
• 36:51
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, i'm going to.
• 36:51
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm going to jump ahead and say now, It has been a long day because I find here I you know Curandairy Berry is 98% funny.
• 37:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: But I am getting a lot of laughs Today it's 100, like real laughs, like it's 100% funny today, i think, because everything's been so heavy today that it's just nice to talk about things that are just kind of nonsensical, like it's like that's important.
• 37:16
  Kira Derryberry: No, it's not.
• 37:17
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's not, but it's like it's not.
• 37:18
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I'm not making any.
• 37:19
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't know making any decisions here.
• 37:21
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: We're just talking about something that could be great.
• 37:24
  Kira Derryberry: Could be great, Yeah, But you know the whole failure to launch thing.
• 37:29
  Kira Derryberry: So we have to do some sort of true.
• 37:32
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yours is so so attainable, so attainable.
• 37:35
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yes, i'm going to do it, so you're going to look at them right now, as we speak.
• 37:38
  Kira Derryberry: Yeah, keep scrolling down that page, or some keep it.
• 37:40
  Kira Derryberry: I'm looking, i'm looking.
• 37:42
  Kira Derryberry: Mine is a little harder to do.
• 37:44
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Yours is a little different.
• 37:45
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: It's a little different, but I'm going to find you a place, a space that you can go and just be in for two days.
• 37:49
  Kira Derryberry: And just do it.
• 37:50
  Kira Derryberry: Just do it.
• 37:50
  Kira Derryberry: It's got to have air conditioning Fair.
• 37:53
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Oh my God, I was looking at this Starry Night one on another site.
• 37:55
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: That's exactly what I'm going to buy, oh good.
• 37:59
  Kira Derryberry: How cute.
• 38:00
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: OK, me OK.
• 38:02
  Kira Derryberry: I thought you were going to like the one with the ocean wave on it.
• 38:03
  Kira Derryberry: I do like the one with the ocean wave on it too.
• 38:06
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: I don't, i don't disagree, but I love Starry, starry Night, if you guys want to look at these.
• 38:10
  Kira Derryberry: it's at looniguitarscom slash ukulele.
• 38:13
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Hey guys, we can all ukulele together.
• 38:16
  Kira Derryberry: Hey, do you ukulele?
• 38:16
  Kira Derryberry: This is we're changing the whole podcast.
• 38:19
  Kira Derryberry: It's just a ukulele podcast.
• 38:20
  Kira Derryberry: Get your ukulele together.
• 38:23
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Your ukulele together.
• 38:25
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: Ok, well, until that great podcast comes along which everybody's going to want to listen to.
• 38:30
  Mary Fisk-Taylor: How do they find that?
• 38:33
  Kira Derryberry: You guys can follow us on Instagram and get your shoot together.
• 38:36
  Kira Derryberry: You can follow us on Facebook and get your shoot together.
• 38:38
  Kira Derryberry: You can email us at girlitgetyourshootegethercom and subscribe to us Everywhere our podcasts are played.
• 38:43
  Kira Derryberry: We will see you guys next time.
• 38:45
  Kira Derryberry: Thanks y'all.