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0:09
SPEAKER_00: Hi guys, and welcome to this episode of Sassin Sips, where we discuss and dissect another episode of Lost in Order while we drink.
0:20
SPEAKER_00: Agnes is holding back her laughter because this is the first time.
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SPEAKER_00: I am trying to get through this intro.
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SPEAKER_00: And today's episode is Greatest Hits, which is the penultimate episode of season three.
0:38
SPEAKER_00: And for those of you who don't know, that just means the one before the last.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: But not because you're stupid, just because maybe you didn't know.
0:48
SPEAKER_02: She's Lisa and I'm Agnes, and this is on our show.
0:51
SPEAKER_02: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
0:53
SPEAKER_00: I I have a strip.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: I have a bottle of wine with a straw in it, if that helps explain my behavior.
1:03
SPEAKER_02: That explains it all.
1:04
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, okay, I get it.
1:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I am drinking some Sauvignon Blanc.
1:11
SPEAKER_00: I can never pronounce that word.
1:13
SPEAKER_00: And I'm not used to white wine.
1:15
SPEAKER_00: So oh, oh, you're not a white wine drinker.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: This is all that was left in the house.
1:21
SPEAKER_00: So here I am.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: What are you drinking?
1:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm keeping it, I'm keeping it traditional with my Stella.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
1:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm just keeping it, you know, yeah.
1:33
SPEAKER_00: Sounds yummy.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: That's probably what I should have done, but here I was trying to be fancy.
1:39
SPEAKER_02: I you know what?
1:40
SPEAKER_02: I believe that it's always okay to experiment with alcohol once you hit the legal drinking age.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:47
SPEAKER_02: And you do it responsibly.
1:49
SPEAKER_00: And we have to say that.
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SPEAKER_02: Drink responsibly and do your legal drinkle age.
1:54
SPEAKER_02: But you want to fix that.
2:00
SPEAKER_02: Experiment with alcohol safely and responsibly.
2:04
SPEAKER_02: And I have to say, on vacation, I went with Angie, we completely disapproved that whole Y's tell liquor before beers, all clear.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: Bullshit.
2:19
SPEAKER_02: Because we did both.
2:21
SPEAKER_02: We mixed, we did dark with light, with beers in the between.
2:26
SPEAKER_02: We did all of it.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: And still was able to walk back to our hotel sober.
2:30
SPEAKER_02: Boom.
2:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying.
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SPEAKER_02: We're a lot younger at the time.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, play with it's okay.
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SPEAKER_02: You're responsible.
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SPEAKER_02: Go for it.
2:43
SPEAKER_02: Okie dokie.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: Are you ready?
2:46
SPEAKER_02: Are you ready?
2:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll see.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: Greatest hits.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: Anything you would like to say before we jump in?
2:54
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't think so.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: This episode centers around Charlie and him remembering the five greatest moments of his life.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: Quite a beautiful moment.
3:06
SPEAKER_02: It was a beautiful episode in that sense.
3:08
SPEAKER_02: The whole episode was touchy.
3:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:10
SPEAKER_00: So we're and in the episode, we see those moments in flashbacks.
3:14
SPEAKER_00: The episode opens on Carl running through the jungle and then into his boat.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: We cut to the survivors trekking inland following Jack.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: They stop in the middle of nowhere.
3:28
SPEAKER_00: And Jack explains what Juliet has been up to.
3:31
SPEAKER_00: And Said is like, okay, but why are we here?
3:34
SPEAKER_00: Jack yells for Danielle and demonstrates why she was getting dynamite at the Black Rock.
3:40
SPEAKER_00: Jack explains how he's got it all figured out and he's going to save them all.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: And Agnes gives the finger and at a really good eye roll.
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SPEAKER_00: We cut to the first flashback, which is item number five, and the items are listed in descending order.
3:59
SPEAKER_00: Number five.
4:09
SPEAKER_00: Then they hear you all everybody on the radio, and Charlie resolves to stay with the band.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: He's a motherfucking rock star.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: On the beach, Naomi asks Charlie about the upcoming war and refers to him as the dead rock star.
4:29
SPEAKER_00: But Charlie notices Desmond watching him with the weird premonition stare.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: Juliet and Jack are rigging the tents with dynamite, but they need more wire.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: Said wants to talk to Jack and promises to apologize at a later date.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: Said wants to know where the radio tower is so he can use the satellite phone.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: But Juliet explains that it won't work because they are jamming the signal from an unknown, maybe broken, underwater Dharma station named The Looking Glass.
4:59
SPEAKER_00: Yet another Alice in Wonderland nod.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: One of my favorite books.
5:06
SPEAKER_00: The White Rabbit.
5:07
SPEAKER_02: Ah, yes.
5:08
SPEAKER_02: White rabbit.
5:09
SPEAKER_02: What what?
5:10
SPEAKER_02: What?
5:11
SPEAKER_02: Never mind.
5:12
SPEAKER_00: Which we've seen a few times, and one of those will be in this episode.
5:16
SPEAKER_02: You gotta say it three times fast.
5:18
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I better do it once I drink some more.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
5:22
SPEAKER_02: But not.
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SPEAKER_00: Drink up.
5:25
SPEAKER_00: Desmond interrupts Charlie and Claire to ask him for help.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Charlie sees through the ruse and wants to know what Desmond saw that morning.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: Desmond says he saw Claire and Aaron getting into that rescue helicopter.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: But in order for that to happen, Charlie has to die.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: We flash to memory number four.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: Or number four on his list.
5:51
SPEAKER_00: Dad teaching me to swim at Butlands.
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SPEAKER_00: Charlie is at a public pool with his dad and brother, and the dad is trying to coax Charlie to jump.
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SPEAKER_00: A child's voice in the background can be heard saying, Come on, let's go, Desmond.
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SPEAKER_00: Charlie jumps in and swims on the beach.
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SPEAKER_00: Desmond explains, he's in a hatch, a room full of equipment, and there's a blinking yellow light above a switch.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: He flips the switch, the light goes off, and then he drowns.
6:27
SPEAKER_00: Said somehow has the blueprints to the looking glass, but Juliet says she's never been down there and that there was some accident and the station was flooded.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: As Jack and Saeed talk about the supposed suicide mission, Charlie overhears and realizes this is his chance.
6:46
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6:52
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7:28
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7:32
SPEAKER_00: Rose and Bernard still exist and are playfully arguing about knots.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: Jin wants to know what Juliet said about them and asks if the baby is okay.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: Then Hurley stops shoveling sand and yells because someone just pulled up on a boat.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: The camp looks and Saeed runs and body slams the dude.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: But before he could do worse, Sawyer steps in and explains, Oh, it's just Carl.
7:58
SPEAKER_00: Carl says, they're coming, but not tomorrow.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: They're coming tonight, right now.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: As Carl tells them about what's happening, we see the others six hours ago.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: At camp, Ben returns, Sans lock, and suspicious Alex stops skinning her rabbit.
8:16
SPEAKER_00: Ben hands her the gun, and Richard wants to know what's going on.
8:21
SPEAKER_00: Ben says they're going tonight and that John had an accident.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: Ryan says he'll take his ten bests and they'll be there by nightfall.
8:30
SPEAKER_00: Richard is worried Juliet won't be ready, and Ben is like, fuck it, we'll take all the women.
8:35
SPEAKER_00: So Alex runs off to find Carl and she tells him what she tells him to warn the survivors.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: Carl is worried about Alex's father killing him, and Alex questions Ben's paternity, once again showing someone else who could benefit from Maury's paternity test Tuesday.
8:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, now there's a wrench in the plan, so Saeed suggests plan B.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: Blow up the others by shooting the dynamite, and Desmond and Charlie will go to the looking glass.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: Number three, the Christmas Liam gave me the ring.
9:08
SPEAKER_00: Liam interrupts Charlie's Christmas morning threesome and gives Charlie the DS ring that is a family heirloom.
9:15
SPEAKER_00: It bears their great grandfather's initials.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: Liam wants Charlie to have it because Charlie will have a wife and a family one day, and Liam will probably be dead by 30.
9:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, well, well, how the turntables anyway.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: Charlie says the whole day.
9:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's an office reference, but you don't get it because you don't watch the office.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh but my friends who listen will.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
9:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I feel so bad.
9:43
SPEAKER_02: I think I'm just gonna quit now.
9:45
SPEAKER_00: No, it's okay.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: It's all right.
9:47
SPEAKER_00: Because now that's an easy way for people who didn't get it to get it without feeling.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: See.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: So thank you.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I just thought you were too drunk and got the phrase wrong.
9:57
SPEAKER_02: Just thought you were a little tipsy.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: I know my TV.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: I know my Michael Scott.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: My Michael G.
10:06
SPEAKER_00: Scott.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: Charlie visits Claire, who wants to know why he didn't tell her that he was going to do that.
10:14
SPEAKER_00: It's like, bitch, you're not my wife?
10:16
unknown: No.
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SPEAKER_00: Charlie tells her not to worry about him while he's gone, and he helps her out with Aaron.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: He calls him turnip head for what may be the last time and tells Aaron he loves him.
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SPEAKER_00: Claire tells him to be careful and they kiss.
10:33
SPEAKER_00: Moment number two.
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SPEAKER_00: A woman outside Covent Garden calls me a hero.
10:40
SPEAKER_00: Charlie is singing Wonderwall on a corner when it starts raining.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: He packs up and is walking home when he hears a woman calling for help from an alley.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: He rushes to help her and beats the mugger with his guitar.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: With his guitar case, sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: The mugger runs off and the woman calls Charlie a hero and says he should never forget it.
11:02
SPEAKER_00: And just in case you didn't recognize her yet, it's Nadia.
11:06
SPEAKER_00: Did you recognize her?
11:07
SPEAKER_00: You did, right?
11:08
SPEAKER_02: I did.
11:09
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Lisa's gonna be so proud of me.
11:14
SPEAKER_00: At the beach, Desmond is making a weight belt for Charlie.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: Who repeats the directions once again?
11:19
SPEAKER_00: Who knew dying could be so hard?
11:22
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
11:23
SPEAKER_02: I find it I still find it funny how if it's a premonition, if you let it go, it'll happen.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
11:31
SPEAKER_02: And I feel like he's so worried about making things happen.
11:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, like you don't have to worry about it happening because it's gonna happen.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
11:38
SPEAKER_02: All right, because that don't make sense a lot.
11:41
SPEAKER_00: In the jungle.
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SPEAKER_02: Can I?
11:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, go ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion's tonight.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: Bernard proves to Saeed that he can shoot, but Rose is worried.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: She wants to stay behind with Bernard, but Jack says no.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: Jack tells Said they better get going.
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SPEAKER_00: But Saeed is like, no, I'm not taking them.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: You are.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: Jack is like, excuse me, and Saeed tells Jack that he's not staying behind.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: Jack is like, but the plan was my idea.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: And Saeed says he's perfectly capable of executing it.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: Jack thinks he owes them, and Saeed wants to know what he's more concerned with: killing the others or getting the people off the island.
12:54
SPEAKER_00: Said says if he wants to be the leader, he has to act like it.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: And right there, I'm pretty sure you can hear everyone within earshot cheering for Said.
13:05
SPEAKER_00: I was cheering for Said.
13:06
SPEAKER_00: I know you were, I was too.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: I was like, yes, Saeed, finally, somebody speaks logically.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: Now, back at the beach, Hurley yells to Charlie and Desmond to wait because he wants to go.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: He's sick of trekking and you know explosions, and plus he's a really good paddler.
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SPEAKER_00: Charlie says no because he believes it to be a suicide mission, but doesn't want to tell that to Hurley, so instead he tells Hurley it's because he's too big.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: Hurley says that it's uncool and turns to walk away.
13:36
SPEAKER_00: Charlie calls for him to wait.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: He gives Hurley a big hug, and Hurley says it's okay, he didn't even want to go on the stupid boat.
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SPEAKER_00: Charlie laughs and tells Hurley he'll catch up with him later and to remember he loves him.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: Hurley is like, Yeah, whatever, I love you too.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: Jack is making sure everyone has water, and Kate's like, here we go again.
14:00
SPEAKER_00: Juliette says the tents are all marked, and Jack wants to know if they found the third shooter.
14:06
SPEAKER_00: The camera pans to Jin.
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SPEAKER_00: Hurley goes to Claire and offers to help her with the baby on the walk.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: And as she picks him up out of the crib, we see Charlie's ring left behind.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: That has to be one of, if not the saddest moments of lost TV.
14:23
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh not the people's death, and there's been some sad deaths, but this was just like heartbreaking.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, to think that everyone's rescue relies on you fulfilling the premonition, which means that you have to die.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: And you're going about your day, getting ready for your suicide mission.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: I I couldn't even begin to imagine what that would be like.
14:55
SPEAKER_00: And he's holding his shit together so well.
14:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I wonder, I don't know.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: I think um maybe this is an unfair um level of expectation to put on parents.
15:11
SPEAKER_02: I think I'm I think I'm qualified to put to it a little bit.
15:15
SPEAKER_02: Um he sees Aaron as his own.
15:21
SPEAKER_02: That's his family.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: And I think you do things as a parent, you force yourself to do things for your for your for your kids and your loved ones.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, you would not normally do under normal circumstances.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: And I think this is just a testament to how he feels about Claire and Aaron.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, does he want to die?
15:43
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm sure he doesn't.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, and it wasn't until them getting safely was he prepared to die.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: And he's so yeah, I'm gonna cry.
15:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: It was very emotional.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh like even I was feeling it.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: Listen, this shit's not um this feeling shit.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't like it.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: I know, it's not do it too often.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: Feel you on the feelings word.
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SPEAKER_00: So Charlie and Desmond start making their way into the water, following the cable.
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SPEAKER_00: Number one, the night I met you.
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SPEAKER_00: The night of the crash, we see Hoodie Charlie wander around the wreckage.
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SPEAKER_00: He notices Claire and approaches her and offers his blanket.
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SPEAKER_00: She accepts and they begin to talk.
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SPEAKER_00: Charlie assures her they'll be rescued, which lifts Claire's spirit a bit and is the beginning of their relationship.
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SPEAKER_00: On the boat, Charlie finishes his list just as they arrive above the looking glass, and Charlie asks Desmond to give the list to Claire for him.
16:53
SPEAKER_00: It's the five best moments of his poor excuse of a life, his greatest hits.
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SPEAKER_00: Desmond tells him he doesn't have to do this and that he'll go instead.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: Yada yada yada.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: Charlie lets Desmond think he's going, but then knocks him unconscious with the paddle.
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SPEAKER_00: He slips the note in Desmond's shirt, grabs the weight belt, and dives in.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: Charlie swims down into the looking glass and is so happy to have made it alive, he starts laughing and yelling, I'm alive.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: And then he's met with women with guns.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: I like to think on some level that's like every man's like fantasy on some level.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: I know I'm sick.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: I have a gun and I'm sorry.
17:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, the episode ends there.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: So let's let's get through this.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: There's like literally one thing for trivia.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: So the t-shirt that Charlie wears has four Chinese words, and I I'm not even gonna try to pronounce them because I absolutely don't know how, but they mean courage and faith respectively.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: So I guess it's fitting since you know he's he's he's doing what he is doing.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: As for the title, Greatest Hits, um, Naomi also refers to the fact that the band released the greatest hits album because you know, once you once once a even nobody rock star dies in a plane crash, he's he's a somebody rock star.
18:33
SPEAKER_02: Right, he's a dead somebody rock star.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: And so in case you have forgotten, Charlie is a rock star.
18:38
SPEAKER_00: He's I was in a band.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: He was in a band, yeah.
18:42
SPEAKER_02: Um and then his five, I think his obviously his five greatest hits in his life, Claire being number one.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: It was such a beautiful tribute.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously, we don't know what's gonna happen, you know.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: But no one else that died got a tribute.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: So I feel like he's not gonna die yet.
19:01
SPEAKER_02: Does that make sense?
19:02
SPEAKER_02: I feel like it's just half of the course.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, but then again, nobody else knew supposedly that they were gonna die.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they could still get some kind of like tribute after the fact.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know what I mean?
19:17
SPEAKER_02: Like in a flashback, like you don't have to know as a tribute as you're watching it.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: You kind of be like, oh shit, that was a tribute.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh wow, I can play so much.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: I concede, you're right.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: That's the only reason I think he's not gonna die yet.
19:31
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
19:31
SPEAKER_00: And it's funny how but how's he gonna die if he's already dead?
19:35
SPEAKER_00: Because you know it's purgatory.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's not gonna die, die.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: None of it's dead.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: He's not gonna like die, die.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: He's not even just dead, but die, die.
19:44
SPEAKER_00: So they're gonna like die twice, like Nana on friends, they're all gonna die twice.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: So, and if she didn't have desm she's present, she wasn't quite passed.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: She wasn't quite passed, she wasn't daily parcible.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: Um sorry, grandma word.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: I find it um curious how he and Desmond have been connected in all these, like I mean, it's a little weird.
20:15
SPEAKER_02: Are we gonna find some kind of connection with them?
20:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, is there a reason they're so connected, or is just the way the lost writers wrote it?
20:21
SPEAKER_02: Just tell me, tell me, damn it.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm shaking you.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: Shrugging my shoulders for those of you who can't see.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: And I'm shaking her via Zoom.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Tell me, damn it.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, in in Desmond's episode, Flashes Before Your Eyes, we see Charlie singing on the corner, yes, and he was singing Wonder Wall.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: He was singing um the song by Oasis, and I know you're not familiar with the song, but the lyrics are, and maybe you're gonna be the one to save me.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna do that.
20:56
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you did mention that too.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: And so who is it referring to?
21:02
SPEAKER_00: Really?
21:02
SPEAKER_00: Because we we kind of thought it was Desmond now it's Charlie being the one to save them, but is it really Charlie who's gonna be the one to save Desmond and and the rest, or is it actually Desmond gonna be the one to save everybody?
21:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, is it the fact that letting him die is actually not going to let him die?
21:23
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Like yes, yeah, yeah.
21:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm so glad you got that.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: I I actually I had that as a a talking point.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
21:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I want to say page.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: Char okay, every time Desmond has a premonition, a flash of Charlie dying, Desmond steps in to protect him.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: This time, they're going to let it happen.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: Charlie has accepted his fate.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: Is that going to have an impact on the outcome?
21:57
SPEAKER_00: Things that make you go, hmm.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: And and also going back to Desmond and Charlie being somehow connected, granted, we don't see who it is, but we do hear a kid in the back saying, Come on, Desmond, let's go.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: I think it's pretty safe to say that it's Desmond Desmond.
22:18
SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, what but there'll be no other point in having it in the script if it wasn't Desmond Desmond.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I kind of agree.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: Can we do a deep dive into Alice in Wonderland and the looking glass?
22:35
SPEAKER_00: No, we can't, for real?
22:36
SPEAKER_00: We can't?
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Or are you just being difficult?
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Just being difficult, of course I can.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Alice in Wonderland is is one of my favorite books.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, and the movie.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: But anybody who knows me knows that I like the one that's from like 1987, like the made for TV with the all-star cast, and it's the most truest one to the book.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: It's not Disney or Tim Burton, it's it's Alice in Wonderland, and then it's through the looking glasses.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: There's two parts.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, Alice, for those of you who may not be familiar, you know, it's a little girl who wants to be an adult, and she dreams of like, you know, all this fantasy stuff.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: So there's a white rabbit who she follows, and it takes her to, you know, like Wonderland, basically.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: Through the looking glass, however, is she has a fear of the Jabberwocky.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: She reads the poem, she has the fear of the Jabberwocky, and as she looks through the looking glass, it's almost like a parallel world.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Um and she realizes that she's actually in the parallel world, and her home is through the looking glass.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: So she's now it's all about trying to get back there.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: And I think that I'm going really deep, but why not?
24:11
SPEAKER_00: Charlie is going to the looking glass station, and I think that it has they could have named it anything.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we think about it, they could have named it anything, and I think that the whole point of naming it the looking glass is to bring us back to this idea of them looking.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh, how do I have I drank too much?
24:40
SPEAKER_00: Like I I don't have words.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: I don't think you've drank enough.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what's going on.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: Can you help me explain?
24:45
SPEAKER_00: Because I I'm pretty sure you understand what I'm saying.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Not quite.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Um in Alice and Wonderland, Alice is looking through the looking glass, she's looking through the mirror, okay?
24:56
SPEAKER_00: The looking glass, and she's seeing the her world where she wants to be, where she's supposed to be, but she's not there, and she wants to get there.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: And I I guess what I'm trying to say is that they go to the looking glass, the looking glass is jamming the signal for them to get home, like Alice.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: Alice had an obstacle to get home, which for her was like the Jabbawocky, and so for them, it's Ben or Jacob or whoever is the man behind the curtain or whatever the fuck is going on on this island.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: But Jabbawocky and Jacob and Ben.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: Jabbawocky, like you know what is Jacob Ben.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: It solved it.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: I see.
25:41
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm I I see what you're saying, and I understand exactly.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: I see, I see where you're going.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm so much smarter after we hit stop on the record button.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: I have to tell you.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: What if you just pretend to hit stop?
25:52
SPEAKER_00: Do you know how many times I'm editing and I'm you know listening to us go back and forth, just looking for things that you know need to come out or whatever.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh my god, why didn't I say this?
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, but I have a better point.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: Hindsight, you know.
26:08
SPEAKER_02: Maybe we should maybe don't ever stop recording until we hang up.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
26:16
SPEAKER_02: As she spills wine all over the place.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: That would be like a 57-hour editing job.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: Actually, we've been very good with because I've been uh I have other things that we've been very good with keeping us.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: Fucking adulting has kept us on point.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: I know we we have so much less time.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: But that's my thought on the looking glass.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: So the looking glass is a literal correlation between Alice and Wildland.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay, there we go.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you okay, and so I'm gonna put this out there that actually, this is your challenge for the week.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: If you are familiar with Alice in Wonderland, the books, or you know, true to Lewis Carroll, um, not to Disney or Tim Burton.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: Just and the only reason I say that is because I'm going by the book, not really the movie.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: So I want to hear your thoughts on, and this is if you've seen the show past this point or not, but I I want to hear your thoughts on using the the name the looking glass for the Dharma station that's jamming their signal that's stopping them all from their quote unquote world.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Email, text.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: Don't send a DM to Instagram because then you'll spoil it for Agnes, for Alex, for Agnes.
27:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, she doesn't know my name anymore.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: I answer to anything, just don't call me late for dinner.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I should grill again.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: Barbecue?
27:49
SPEAKER_02: Grill.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: I was waiting for you to respond to the pineapple.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: And then let me tell you, I did it with brown sugar and butter.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: I saw and a little cinnamon.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Holy fucking cow.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: It was delicious.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: I like my pineapple, just like pineapple.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: Like I like, but but no, I can see how because because that I when I do my hams, I do with like the cinnamon, right?
28:18
SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, I can see how that'd be like, oh god.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: It tasted like candy.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: It was so delicious, so delicious.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do it again.
28:26
SPEAKER_02: And it's not, and you you grilled, or did you barbecue?
28:32
SPEAKER_00: You'll never know.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: I listen, there's a difference between grilling and barbecuing.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, you know, logically I know that, but I like fucking with you.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: I know, and you like fucking with me.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: I know.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: We like fucking with each other.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: And is that that type of party people?
28:50
SPEAKER_02: Or is it?
28:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh, is it?
28:53
SPEAKER_02: You'll never know.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: Yes, maybe if you subscribe, maybe you find out.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: Maybe if somebody joins that top tier Patreon, we might do this in our lingerie for you.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: But I said maybe, so just you know.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Listen, I want to keep up, I want to keep our listeners.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: I I think there's a market for that, but only fans.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: I do that too.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: Only grannies.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm doing that.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't qualify, so I'm gonna do an OnlyFans, but my subscription would be like seriously, like granny stuff.
29:37
SPEAKER_02: Baking and cooking and sewing.
29:40
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I do all that shit.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm an old lady.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: Do that too.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can do that stuff, but I'm not a gran.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: But I don't have to do, I think I will have like and then people like, oh, what is she gonna do?
29:51
SPEAKER_02: And then I'll like spend all this one subscribe and be able to do that, but like in my brawn pennies.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: You don't have to because once they paint I know, but then that'll get them to subscribe.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: So shake my fat quarantine ass.
30:06
SPEAKER_02: Shake what your mama gave you.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: My mama gave me some cornbread or something.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: Okay, uh I mean the the stomach got a little bigger, but so did that ass.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, ooh, jiggling, you can jiggling, baby.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: But no, because when when LL said you're jiggling, baby, he didn't say what was jiggling.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm jiggling.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: That's that's you got a good point.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm jiggling, baby.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead, baby.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: Jiggling, baby.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, baby.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: Um all right, I think I think the alcohol is telling us to wrap this shit up.
30:46
SPEAKER_02: Cut it out.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right, Uncle.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: Oh, now I was gonna say Uncle Joey, but it's not Uncle Joey, it's just Joey.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: It's Joey.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: Anything else before we finish this episode?
31:01
SPEAKER_00: What do you think is gonna happen to Charlie?
31:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: Desmond said his premonition was he was gonna drown and watch him get shot.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: No, just kidding.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: I think there's one point I did want to make I kind of forgot about it.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: In last week's episode, we saw um Jabbawocky Ben and his pet rabbit and his affinity for rabbits at the time.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: And then when he comes back to his camp, you see Alice just kind of slaughtering the rabbit, you know.
31:33
SPEAKER_02: And I find it was very telling of their relationship or lack thereof or the type.
31:38
SPEAKER_02: I found that I laughed, I actually laughed out loud with that one because it was funny, but funny.
31:45
SPEAKER_02: Get it funny, funny, but funny, the rabbit.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Now you're gonna before okay, so we're done with greatest hits.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, next time on Sassin's Sips, we're gonna do Through the Looking Glass, which is a two-parter, but it's gonna be one episode.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, I want to say long episode, but who knows with us.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: It could be shorter, it could be longer.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: That's what she said.
32:27
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: There was a point when you were talking, I know I'm going way back.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: My brain is like really fucked up right now.
32:34
SPEAKER_02: Tell me, tell me.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: Not fucked up, it's like I'm slow with uptake lately.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: When you're talking about Said and how he got the blueprints from like somehow he got them.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: Remember when they went to the house and they first met Mikhail?
32:46
SPEAKER_02: We got a whole bunch of stuff from the yes.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: Look at you, pink.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: You need a raise.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Somebody give her a raise, pump and nickel and everything.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you got it.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: I take all raises.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's what she said.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: That's what that's definitely what she said.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: Through the looking glass is the next episode, and then we we will be all done with season three.
33:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank God.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, are we done with the series yet?
33:31
SPEAKER_00: No.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, shoot me.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: But before we start season four, we're gonna give you um one, maybe two fan favorites.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: We are going to do missing pieces.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: I have not seen missing pieces, so this is gonna be new to both of us.
33:53
SPEAKER_00: And uh, we will probably do a recap and a looking forward show.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Agnes has her cat.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: She's like Dr.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: Evil.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, and he just lays there.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: He's a big love mush.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: He's like, Okay, I love you, love me.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: Aww.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: Wasn't 15 pounds, I swear.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: He's very cute.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: We are saying if you please, we are.
34:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it for the first like month we had him.
34:28
SPEAKER_00: Let's let's let everyone in on our giveaway.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes, I think we should share the love.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: So, the giveaway, we are gonna give away an Amazon gift card.
34:42
SPEAKER_00: And in order to enter, we were gonna post a giveaway post on Facebook and Instagram.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: And so if you share those posts, you'll get one entry.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: If you make any donation to us, monetary cash money, via PayPal, buy me a coffee, or Patreon, you are entered twice.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: And like we said, the winners will receive an Amazon gift card, and we might throw in some swag.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: So I like a good swag bag, baby.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: The contest is gonna run for one month, it's gonna start today, July 5th, and it's gonna run until August 4th, 8-4.
35:29
SPEAKER_00: Ha ha, two of the numbers.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: I crack myself up.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: Somebody has to.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, I crack you up too.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: You do, you do, but you're not you're not always with me.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, am I not really?
35:44
SPEAKER_02: Because I got I'm always in the head, I'm always here.
35:47
SPEAKER_00: Is this like purgatory?
35:49
SPEAKER_00: That too.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: Are you just always with me, even though I don't know it?
35:53
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
35:56
SPEAKER_02: With my cat.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: With your cat, yes.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: So while you are waiting for us to come back for through the looking glass, please remember to drink responsibly.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: Please support the show if you like what you hear, or if you don't like what you hear, whatever, just support us because we love you and we like you, so you don't have to like us because we like you.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't like us, and actually, so let's be real.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to say, we're New Yorkers, you don't like us, fuck you.
36:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, true.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: Word, but really, who doesn't like us?
36:44
SPEAKER_02: So who wouldn't?
36:45
SPEAKER_02: We're a fucking mess.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: We're we're a hot mess.
36:48
SPEAKER_00: We are a hot mess, but you know what?
36:49
SPEAKER_00: We're also pretty fucking amazing.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: So I think so.
36:52
SPEAKER_02: I think being the hot mess is what makes us so fucking amazing.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: Now, share the show.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: That sounds like a good sip.
37:04
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37:07
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37:20
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37:26
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: Please send us your thoughts for the finale.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, and we will