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Taylor Swift's Wedding of the Century · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber. I'm Kate Torber. And I'm Amy Torber. And
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  Speaker 1: today we're coming to you with a very special episode
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  Speaker 1: of Outspoken, the Taylor Swift wedding edition. Over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey tied the knot in what's
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  Speaker 1: been described as the wedding of the century. The singer
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  Speaker 1: finally got her love story saying, I do. to the Chiefs'
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  Speaker 1: tight end in front of a star-studded guest list at
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  Speaker 1: Madison Square Gardens. The celebration captivated fans around the world,
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  Speaker 1: but many Swifties were shocked by the choice of venue. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Many hardcore Taylor Swift fans didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: believe that one of the most prolific songwriters of our
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  Speaker 1: time was getting married in a sports stadium. Now, Madison
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  Speaker 1: Square Gardens is, of course, home to the New York
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  Speaker 1: Knicks and the Rangers. And a lot of fans were
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  Speaker 1: convinced that this was all part of an elaborate plan
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  Speaker 1: to get the media off the scent of the real
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  Speaker 1: wedding venue. A lot of them argued that the arena
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  Speaker 1: was too obvious and public for someone with Taylor's profile,
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  Speaker 1: whilst others felt the sports stadium didn't really fit her vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Let's throw to what one fan said.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Swift literally wrote the words, you call me up
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  Speaker 2: again just to break me like a promise so casually
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  Speaker 2: cruel in the name of being honest.
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  Speaker 3: And we think she's getting married at Madison Square Garden.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way. I was one of the Swifties that
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  Speaker 1: also thought Madison Square Garden was definitely a decoy. When
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  Speaker 1: I think of Taylor Swift's wedding, I imagine it to
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  Speaker 1: be in the Hamptons and very private, a certain vibe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but Kate, that's the vibe if she was marrying Joe Olwen,
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  Speaker 1: you could almost imagine them eloping and having no one
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  Speaker 1: there and it all being top secret. But She's changed.
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  Speaker 1: She's a new Taylor. I wondered, thinking back to Taylor
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  Speaker 1: being at the Knicks game, was that all an Easter
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  Speaker 1: egg to say, this is actually going to be my
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  Speaker 1: wedding venue? Oh, definitely. I mean, at the game, she
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  Speaker 1: was wearing a top that said Stevie Knicks. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Stevie Knicks performed at Taylor's wedding. Well, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of egg on a lot of Swifties' faces.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, another fan said, if you believe that Taylor
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  Speaker 1: Swift is getting married at MSG on July 3rd, For
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  Speaker 1: 1,100 people, you're an idiot. Normal people don't get married
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  Speaker 1: on holiday weekends at huge stadiums, let alone the billionaire romantic.
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  Speaker 1: I got married on a long weekend. And a very
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  Speaker 1: hot day as well. There was quite a few similarities.
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  Speaker 1: There was. I mean, you didn't have 1,000 guests. No,
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  Speaker 1: not quite. You didn't shut down the streets. You're not
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  Speaker 1: a billionaire. Surely, though, this wedding venue, it's got Travis
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey all over it. Is he the one that persuaded
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift to get married here? When you really think
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  Speaker 1: about it, though– The venue suits them in the sense
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  Speaker 1: that Travis is an athlete and Taylor is a singer
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  Speaker 1: and Madison Square Garden hosts both sporting events and also
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  Speaker 1: music events. So it's kind of them coming together. And
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  Speaker 1: also people are like, oh, I can't believe 1,000 people
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  Speaker 1: were there. But Taylor Swift is used to performing in
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  Speaker 1: front of crowds of over 50,000 people. Travis Kelsey performs
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  Speaker 1: in massive stadiums. So 1,000 people really isn't that many
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  Speaker 1: to them. It's not a performance. It's a wedding. And
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone expected Taylor Swift to have a beautiful–
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  Speaker 1: intimate wedding. But with all her money, she would have
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  Speaker 1: been able to transform Madison Square Garden into anything she wanted.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, another reason why a lot of Swifties were convinced
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  Speaker 1: that this was some sort of decoy is because.
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  Speaker 3: In Taylor's song, The Lucky One, she sings, choose the.
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  Speaker 1: Rose garden over Madison Square. And this song is all
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  Speaker 1: about the dark side of fame and how she'd rather
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  Speaker 1: choose this peaceful life with privacy and quiet and away
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  Speaker 1: from the spotlight, aka a rose garden, then the chaotic
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  Speaker 1: rush of fame performing at Madison Square Garden. So this
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  Speaker 1: seems in contrast to what she was singing about. Again,
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  Speaker 1: Taylor co-wrote this album with Joe Alwyn. So I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it was reflective of their relationship and
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  Speaker 1: how he liked to keep things private. I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: got her rose garden with Travis Kelsey as well, because
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  Speaker 1: he proposed in a rose garden that he had constructed
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  Speaker 1: in his backyard. So Why can't she have both? She
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  Speaker 1: can have the Rose Garden and Madison Square Garden. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people saying online, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: wedding looked very look at me, pay me attention. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want anything to be private. But a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Swifties have come out in defense of the venue choice.
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  Speaker 1: Many argued that it was the perfect blank canvas for
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  Speaker 1: someone with an unlimited budget like Taylor. One even used
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  Speaker 1: AI to show how the stadium could be transformed. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start at what one fan said.
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  Speaker 5: Guys, she's not getting married on a basketball court. Like
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  Speaker 5: her friends and family aren't going to be sitting in
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  Speaker 5: folding bleacher seats. You're talking about this classless, tacky Madison
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  Speaker 5: Square Garden wedding like it's gonna be set up like this.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't Taylor Swift's wedding.
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  Speaker 5: She's a fucking billionaire. It's gonna look like whatever she
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  Speaker 5: wants it to look like. I'm imagining that Madison Square
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  Speaker 5: Garden simply had the best walls to keep you fucking
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  Speaker 5: weirdos out. It is merely a vessel for her vision.
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  Speaker 5: And you guys are picturing it like some tacky gymnasium
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  Speaker 5: middle school dance. You gotta think here, pal.
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  Speaker 1: I love how she says that Madison Square Gardens has
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  Speaker 1: the best walls to keep the fucking weirdos out. And
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  Speaker 1: she's correct because the security would have been so tight.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't seen any pictures from media. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't able to get in anyway. On a small level- Well,
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  Speaker 1: the ones that weren't invited. Yeah, there was Good Morning
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  Speaker 1: American presenters invited, which was just bizarre. We are going
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  Speaker 1: to be getting into the guest list a little bit later.
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  Speaker 1: But I was going to say on a smaller scale,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in Australia, Tammy Hembrough and Matt Sikowsky's wedding-
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  Speaker 1: the dress was leaked because they literally had a drone
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  Speaker 1: over the top of that wedding. Can you imagine if
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  Speaker 1: Taylor had this outside somewhere? And all we've seen is
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  Speaker 1: like some tablecloths, haven't we? Let's say TNT on it.
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  Speaker 1: Or all the AI photos that we're doing around. Sophie
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  Speaker 1: sent one through on Saturday and she's like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 1: like this was not how I expected her to like
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  Speaker 1: wear her hair. And I was like, that is clearly
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  Speaker 1: an AI photo. It looks pretty good. I sent it
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  Speaker 1: to Sophie and I said, I'm pretty sure these are fake.
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  Speaker 1: But the fake, they were good. They were good. Because
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  Speaker 1: they even had, there was one that had a picture
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  Speaker 1: of Sabrina Carpenter all blurry next to Taylor Swift. That's
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  Speaker 1: what threw me, like how blurry they were. Anyway, getting
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  Speaker 1: back to the lead up to the wedding, by the
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  Speaker 1: middle of last week, it became very apparent that Madison
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  Speaker 1: Square Garden wasn't a decoy and this was the real deal.
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  Speaker 1: So large trucks were seen arriving at the venue's loading dock,
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  Speaker 1: delivering food, decorations and event planning supplies. There were so
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  Speaker 1: many cameras. waiting outside to see these trucks. People were
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  Speaker 1: zooming up to see any labels that they could A
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  Speaker 1: lot of journos claimed that they could see stuff labelled
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  Speaker 1: like garden and decorations, but I call it a bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: There was some guy driving a forklift that literally had
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  Speaker 1: a T-shirt that said Taylor Swift's crew. So that kind
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  Speaker 1: of gave it away. I mean, also the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Travis's teammates were all staying in hotels in Midtown and
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  Speaker 1: security had been ramping up. There were barricades closing off
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  Speaker 1: the street. Well, things became even more obvious on Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: night when a permit for a special event at MSG
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  Speaker 1: was given away. by the New York mayor. And the
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  Speaker 1: permit showed that 100 guests would be arriving in Madison
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  Speaker 1: Square Garden at 6.30 p.m. local time on Thursday night
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  Speaker 1: for a rehearsal dinner, followed by a full street closure
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  Speaker 1: overnight with multiple entrances and drive-through areas to be erected
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  Speaker 1: around the area. Now, the permit stated that the main
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  Speaker 1: event was on Friday, aka the wedding, And it was
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  Speaker 1: scheduled to last from 5 p.m. on Friday until 4 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: the following morning. Was anyone confused as to why she
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  Speaker 1: had a Friday wedding? Because I feel like it's a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a contentious topic among brides. But I think
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  Speaker 1: Saturday is the best day to have a wedding. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was because she didn't want to have her
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  Speaker 1: wedding on the 4th of July and take away from
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  Speaker 1: the celebrations over the weekend. I mean, she's already created
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  Speaker 1: a lot of headaches there. for locals in the area.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine if she also took that up on the.
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  Speaker 1: Actual day of the celebration. But she clearly chose the
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  Speaker 1: 4th of July weekend because it's special to her. It's
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  Speaker 1: her favourite holiday. Well, this sort of permit that Taylor
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  Speaker 1: and Travis got isn't cheap. In order to hold an
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  Speaker 1: event of this scale... which requires all of the street closures.
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  Speaker 1: It costs as much as $ 66, 000 a day. Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 1: That would be like loose change to Taylor Swift. Well,
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  Speaker 1: as you can imagine, not everyone was pleased with these
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  Speaker 1: street closures and they took to social media to complain
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  Speaker 1: about them. I mean, as we've touched on, this was
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  Speaker 1: the 4th of July weekend. A lot of people had
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  Speaker 1: other plans and it did disrupt a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: The NYPD in the lead up to the wedding also
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  Speaker 1: put out an alert to staff describing the event As
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's wedding.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: My husband pulled me up the other day. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Taylor and Travis's wedding. He's like, come on. It's just
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's wedding. Well, did you guys see this video
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  Speaker 1: circulating in the lead up to the wedding? It went
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  Speaker 1: viral on TikTok. It showed a police officer holding a
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  Speaker 1: folder that said Swift Kelsey wedding. And it was in
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  Speaker 1: the most hideous cursive writing you've ever seen. And the
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  Speaker 1: couple's engagement photo was on the folder. And everyone was
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  Speaker 1: going nuts about the font. Someone said in that font,
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  Speaker 1: which got over 100,000 likes. And a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: pointed out, look, this isn't from Taylor's team. Someone back
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  Speaker 1: in the NYPD office clearly printed this out. They chose
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  Speaker 1: the photo. They chose the writing. Can you imagine the
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  Speaker 1: poor person that's like written it? And they're like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my God, I thought I did quite a good job
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  Speaker 1: of it. I mean, Sophie, you've touched on it, but
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  Speaker 1: it's very clear this venue was strategically picked for security reasons.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's proved to be an impenetrable fortress. It
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  Speaker 1: allowed the couple to have the highest level of security
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  Speaker 1: and avoid paparazzi and drones. We are yet at the
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  Speaker 1: time of recording to see any photos, well, real photos
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  Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey in their wedding outfits.
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  Speaker 1: I think the part Taylor liked the most was that
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  Speaker 1: she and Travis, as well as the guests, were able
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  Speaker 1: to drive into a private tented area in their cars
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  Speaker 1: and escape being seen by the media and the public.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, anyone that is a fan of Taylor Swift
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  Speaker 1: will know that she's able to get on stage at
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  Speaker 1: her concert because she hides in a like faked, mocked up,
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  Speaker 1: cleaning cart. So clearly that's on her mind a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if there was some form of entry that
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  Speaker 1: she did that was a little bit quirky. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: we'll find out about it later if she did. According
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  Speaker 1: to all reports, all employees working on the wedding were
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  Speaker 1: required to also turn in their phones for 12 hours
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  Speaker 1: whilst they were on site. I mean, that would have
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  Speaker 1: had to be a necessity because, I mean, I know
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  Speaker 1: that it sounds like a lot of the guests had
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  Speaker 1: to sign NDAs in the lead up to the wedding,
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  Speaker 1: but you could have imagined that someone working there sending
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  Speaker 1: a sneaky photo.
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  Speaker 4: To their friend.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if there was like a tiered system because
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  Speaker 1: there were a lot of A-listers there. So was it like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a Brad Pitt and a Hugh Grant, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to turn your phone in, you can take photos.
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  Speaker 1: But were there some people like the Good Morning America
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  Speaker 1: host that actually had to take their phones in too?
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  Speaker 1: Any media. I mean, I don't actually think that, I
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  Speaker 1: think it was only people working on the wedding who
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  Speaker 1: had to turn in their phones. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: were asking the celebrities too. I've heard differently. I think
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  Speaker 1: there was a no phones policy, but it's sort of
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  Speaker 1: like at every other wedding where it's sort of understood
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  Speaker 1: that you can't have your phone out when the bride's
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  Speaker 1: walking down the aisle. Have you guys seen the TikTok
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  Speaker 1: where someone's imitating Brittany Mahomes? And she's like, please, can
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  Speaker 1: I just post the photo? And he's like, sorry, Brittany,
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  Speaker 1: we can't because they haven't posted theirs. There's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of talk about how dystopian this wedding was. And
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  Speaker 1: I think Taylor and Travis knew they were going to
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  Speaker 1: cop this criticism because ahead of the wedding, it was
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  Speaker 1: reported that the couple donated $ 26 million to charity. Are
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  Speaker 1: we thinking this was damage control? Oh yeah. Tree Payne
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  Speaker 1: would have been like, look guys, we're going to need
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  Speaker 1: to drop a considerable amount of money. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: already know that Taylor donates a lot of her money
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  Speaker 1: and also time to charity. So it's not surprising. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of Swifties were analyzing the figure and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that it's 26 million and saying, well, obviously Taylor Swift's
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  Speaker 1: favorite number is 13. 13 times 2 is 26. Is
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  Speaker 1: this also another sort of throwback to the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they're in love and there's two of them? Or did
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  Speaker 1: the wedding cost $ 26 million? Or do you think it
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  Speaker 1: cost way more than that? Oh my God, way more
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  Speaker 1: than that. One thing that even rich people can't control
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  Speaker 1: is the weather. As we touched on, there was a
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  Speaker 1: heat wave going on over the 4th of July weekend.
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  Speaker 1: One reporter said that it felt like it was 41
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  Speaker 1: degrees where he was standing. So he was standing amongst
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  Speaker 1: fans who would swarm the streets. A lot of them
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  Speaker 1: were wearing wedding dresses, which was quite funny. And this
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  Speaker 1: obviously got my interest as you touched on, I got
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  Speaker 1: married in 40 degree weather as well, but I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: there was some good air con going on in Madison
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  Speaker 1: Square Garden. I mean, that's the beauty of having it
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  Speaker 1: somewhere like a stadium. You're not having to contend with
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  Speaker 1: weather conditions outside. Well, the air conditioning was a really
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  Speaker 1: contentious issue because a lot of New Yorkers were actually
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  Speaker 1: being told to conserve their power while others were having
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  Speaker 1: their electricity turned off. So there were a number of
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  Speaker 1: deaths reported over that holiday. I mean, that's not Taylor
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  Speaker 1: and Travis's fault, but it didn't help to the optics
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  Speaker 1: of the wedding that there was this billionaire wedding going on.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually pissing me off now because I've seen a
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  Speaker 1: lot of commentary around, oh, Taylor Swift's not a nice
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  Speaker 1: person because she's a billionaire. It's impossible to be an
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  Speaker 1: ethical billionaire and people are comparing her wedding to Jeff Bezos.
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  Speaker 1: I think people need to calm down. They need to
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  Speaker 1: calm down. She... is an incredible billionaire. She gives back
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  Speaker 1: a lot. And I think just let her have her
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  Speaker 1: wedding day. I mean, Madison Square Garden hosts a lot
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  Speaker 1: of events. So if there was a basketball game on,
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  Speaker 1: would people have blamed that event for losing power? Like
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  Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous. Now I want to know, how did
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  Speaker 1: you guys feel waking up on Saturday morning knowing that
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  Speaker 1: the wedding was taking place then? Well, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people have been saying they now know how their mums
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  Speaker 1: felt when Princess Diana got married because it did have
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  Speaker 1: that same kind of vibe. At least Princess Diana's wedding
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  Speaker 1: was televised. We were just waiting on TikTok for any
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  Speaker 1: snippet of information. I was just searching for any crumbs
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  Speaker 1: I could find possible. And I was so jealous when
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  Speaker 1: I woke up to see celebrity gossip account Dumois posting
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  Speaker 1: all of the celebrities arriving. Like I had this real
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  Speaker 1: pit in my stomach where I was like, this is bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: Like I wish I could go. I wish I was
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Grant. That was a weird thing for me because
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  Speaker 1: you have this parasocial relationship with Taylor Swift. It almost
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  Speaker 1: felt strange that I know she obviously is a celebrity,
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  Speaker 1: but she feels somewhat like a friend because we've all
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  Speaker 1: grown up with her. And then to see these A-listers
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  Speaker 1: going to her wedding kind of felt odd. Well, in
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  Speaker 1: the lead up to the wedding, she joked that anyone
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  Speaker 1: she'd ever talked to would get an invite. And it
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  Speaker 1: kind of seems like she made good on that promise.
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  Speaker 1: There were hundreds of celebrities there. I loved one TikToker's
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  Speaker 1: take on the guest list. Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I've met them before, but invite them anyways.
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  Speaker 2: If they've ever said anything nice about me publicly, we
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  Speaker 2: can send them an invite. Benson Boone can come, but
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  Speaker 2: only if I get to see some flips.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I loved her in that movie.
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  Speaker 2: Let's totally invite her to the wedding. Carly, what the hell?
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: She sat in the 300s at the heiress tour. I
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  Speaker 2: think she suffered enough. The interns?
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  Speaker 1: They can come.
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  Speaker 2: Invite the major executives of every single media company. I
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  Speaker 2: want business deals happening at my wedding. Anyone who has
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  Speaker 2: ever opened for me, blanket invite. Except, you know who.
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  Speaker 2: You should basically just invite anyone who is famous. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I've met them before, but invite them anyways.
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  Speaker 1: I was shocked about Kylie Kloss being there. I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: she's really throwing people. I mean, the only celebrity that
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  Speaker 1: didn't seem to get an invite was Blake Lively. That's
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  Speaker 1: the thing because she made this big fuss about, oh,
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  Speaker 1: literally everyone's going to be invited. If you were that
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  Speaker 1: one person that didn't get invited, you would feel so
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  Speaker 1: left out. I've seen there are some reports coming out
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  Speaker 1: today that Harry and Meghan are feeling left out. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is just off the back
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: of Prince William's appearing on Travis Kelsey's podcast. But there
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: were also reports that Taylor and Travis dined with Prince
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: William and Kate Middleton. This makes me feel sad for
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan because we know what a huge fan
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Harry is. He has mentioned... how Taylor's Reputation album got
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: him through leaving the royal family. I wonder how Steph
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Clare Smith is feeling about all of this because she's
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: very publicly put on the record that she struck up
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: a friendship with Taylor Swift when she was living in
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: New York years ago. She actually went with Taylor to
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: pick out her cat. Yeah, I mean, to be fair,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: it sounds like quite a fleeting friendship. But yeah, if
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: you've got Taylor Swift saying she's literally inviting every person
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: that she knows. Well, we should have been invited then.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: We met her back in 2015 after a concert. I'm
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: gutted that we didn't make enough of an impression To
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: make the guest list. Do you think she invited some fans? Well,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I think it would have been a good move, but
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I feel like she didn't because I think that story
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: would have come out by now, particularly because there has
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: been backlash that there's so many huge celebrities. We have
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: to run through some of the big A-listers who were there.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: So Gigi Hadid and Bradley Cooper. We had Zoe Kravis,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: no Harry Styles. He was performing in his 12th sold-out
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium. So he wasn't there. That would have been
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit awkward. I was surprised to see Kelsey
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Ballerini there. So she is a country singer who dates
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: or slash broke up with my celebrity crush, Chase Stokes.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: So she shared an Instagram story where she was driving
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: in a limousine and they were all blaring love story
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: on the way to the ceremony. It was so weird
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: to see because we actually did that on the way
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: to my wedding. And I'm like, it's so weird that
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: you're actually going to Taylor Swift's wedding. So many parallels
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: between our weddings. But didn't she apparently walk down to
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: love story as well? Yeah, this actually blew my mind.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: At first I was like, oh. okay, that's sort of
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a bit strange. But then I'm like, well, how, as
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the biggest artist.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: In the world, how could you not choose one of
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: your songs?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Well, this is music about her life. And also the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: fact that so many people who have weddings also use
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: this song. Well, Paul McCartney was also there and he
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: took to the stage to perform I Want to Hold
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Your Hand. Like it was absolutely wild. Steven Spielberg was there.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Jessica Alba, Millie Bobby Brown, Reese Witherspoon, like fucking literally
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: any celebrity that you could think of seemed to be there.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: As you touched on, Amy, even the anchors of Good
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Morning America were invited. Let's throw to what they said
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: about the wedding. We can confirm that, and we can
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: confirm that, yes, Stevie Nicks did perform. But it was so,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: it really was intimate, wasn't.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: It, guys?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: As intimate as it could possibly be, given it was
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden, really this garden inside the garden.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: It was just so beautiful.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine that a place that big and
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: a wedding with such stars could feel so personal and
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: so intimate.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Because they had their neighbors, their high school friends. It
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: was like any wedding that you would attend.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: It was their dream wedding, and it really was amazing.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Congratulations to both of them.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, and their vows.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: All right, they wrote their own vows.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Little books.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: You would expect nothing less from Taylor Swift.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: And on top of congratulations, thank you for inviting us.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: That was very kind.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Really, really appreciate it. Now, Taylor Swift didn't leave her
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: fans waiting too long. At 7.27 p.m. New York time,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: jumbotrons outside the venue lit up to reveal the couple
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: was officially husband and wife. At first glance, it looked
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: like it just said, just married. But when you looked closer-
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: They had added TNT for Travis and Taylor. I literally
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: screenshot this and sent it immediately through to you guys.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And Amy was like, no, that's not it. There's a
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: spelling error there. That's not their announcement. It just looked
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: weird to me. I was like, it doesn't make sense.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: It just and T. It still doesn't make sense to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: me because it didn't really read well. And they actually
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: had it on the number plate of one of the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: cars at the venue. And I'm like, there was something
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: about it I didn't like. Like I saw the TNT
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: as like the wedding motif. And it kind of just
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: reminded me of the Reputation logo.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I also think that everyone seems shocked by this, but
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: in terms of the style of the wedding, Taylor Swift
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: has never been known for her style. She's always been
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: called unstylish, if anything. You know what I mean? Yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I just meant more the spelling error. What I thought
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: was funny, though, about the way that they announced that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: they were married is a couple of journos have compared
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: it to when the smoke rises over the Vatican to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: announce the selection of a new pope. They're like, look,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: they just blasted on the screens outside Madison Square Gardeners.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: The Empire State Building also lit up blue. So it
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: seems like that was actually Taylor's something blue. In an
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: official statement, it was announced that the landmark would be
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: lit up with a light blue sparkle color on the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: evening of July 3rd. it wasn't clear if this was
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: a request from Taylor or not. That's why a lot
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: of other people were being like, we're all being told
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to turn off our air con and they're lighting up
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the Empire State Building blue to celebrate Taylor's wedding. What
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I found most wild was when the media release came out.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: So poor Tree Payne, she's trying to enjoy the wedding
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and she's having to release statements to the media. Oh,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: come on. She would have had that shed in beforehand.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if there was a scheduling issue? Like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you know how power's going out in the city? Like,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: imagine if it just went out prior. Now, in this statement... Tree.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Didn't specify when or where the couple got married.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, even though it was pretty obvious. Well, no,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: but that's because a lot of people think that the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: couple actually got married in a more intimate ceremony beforehand.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: So that's why she didn't specify when or where they
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: got married. I think people are holding on to hope
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: that that happened for some reason. It just doesn't make
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: sense in people's head that this was the actual wedding. Now,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: while no official photos have been released, I'm guessing they'll
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: be dropped just as this podcast goes to air. The
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: media statement actually confirmed what they were wearing. So they
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: were dressed by Dior designer Jonathan Anderson. Why do you
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: think this information was released? Is it a collaboration maybe?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's a situation where Taylor
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: had to have a free dress or anything like that,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like a lot of influences, but I wouldn't be surprised
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: if she was inundated by designers contacting her and clearly
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: there was some sort of agreement that if they were
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to make her this grand dress, they get some sort
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: of recognition in the press release. Do you think it
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: was also a way of saying, hey, those AI photos
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that keep popping up everywhere, that's not the dress because
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: it's actually been made by Dior because I was pretty
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: shocked originally when I saw that photo and was like, oh,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: my God, is this real? I didn't expect Taylor to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: wear a dress like that. What do you guys think
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: she would have worn? Like what are we guessing the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: photos are going to look like? I think something that
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: matched up with her ring. So very sort of classic looking.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: We have heard that she had a long train. I'm
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: thinking lace, long sleeves, a bit like what Delta Goodrum
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: wore at her wedding, like fairytale vibes. I'm convinced that
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey did not wear a black tuxedo.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: No.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: As soon as I saw those images, that's what actually
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: made me think that they were fake because I was
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: like he would look great in a black tuxedo but
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: he's got too much like personality. He would be the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: sort of guy that would want either, I mean, a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: white suit. That's the rumour. Well, one fan squealed and
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: said he did wear a white suit. Oh, see, I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: more imagined him. Fan or guest? Guest, sorry. I actually
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: more imagined him in like a burgundy velvet number. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: was going to say the other thing was either like, yeah, burgundy.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Or brown, like a chocolate brown because that kind of,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: goes with the stuff that we've seen him wearing. He
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: wears very loud clothing. I don't like a white suit.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I think a cream suit. Your husband wore a blue
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: suit with a pink tie. That was kind of out there. Well, yeah,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: pink tie. Well, the pink tie suited the bridesmaid's dresses.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't have anything to do with his suit. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: wanted him in a black tuxedo. I think you just
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: can't get past a black tuxedo. They just look so classy.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: We have to talk about the bridal party because they
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: went with something quite unconventional. So Taylor's reps revealed that
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Taylor and Travis didn't have bridesmaids or groomsmen. Instead, Taylor's
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: brother Austin was her man of honor and Jason Kelsey
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: was Travis's best man. God, how cut do you think
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Taylor's high school friend Abigail was? Like this was her
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: big moment and Taylor Swift was her bridesmaid. I fell
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: for Abigail because not only was she not a bridesmaid,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: but she also wore the same dress as one of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the NFL players' girlfriends. To be fair, it would have
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: been really hard for Taylor and maybe this was the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: way of not offending people, particularly because you know, when
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: you're picking your bridesmaids, you feel like you're having to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: rank them, even when it gets to the point where
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you have to have them standing next to you at
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the altar. It's like, oh, do you put it in
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: order of how long you've known people? Also, do you
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: reckon when all of your bridesmaids are going to potentially
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: be A-list celebrities or models, you don't really want someone
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: stealing your thunder? You know what I mean? Oh, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: don't think it was about that at all. I mean,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I think she's just got so many female friends and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: there's been so much attention on who she's friends with.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, back in 2015, you know, it was all
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift's hot group of friends, the girl gang,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: they were all in the bad blood film clip. So
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I think maybe she didn't want the attention on who
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: was selected. Well, I love the fact that she also
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: broke with tradition because again, at my wedding, I had
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: bridesmen and my husband had his sister as his best woman.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So I love that. I've heard a lot of wedding
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: planners saying, oh my God, I hope Taylor Swift's wedding
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: is really tasteful because we're literally going to be requested
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: whatever she has for years now. I think it also
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: makes sense because Travis Kelsey playing football. He would have
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of mates and they probably didn't want that
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: awkward thing where, you know, there's like 25 people standing
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: up at the altar with you. A bit of a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: sausage fest.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Well, what surprised a lot of people was who officiated
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: this ceremony. This is at the point when I thought
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I was being punked. Yeah. So Taylor's reps just casually dropped.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that it was Adam Sandler. I saw this meme going
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: around and they're like, every guy gets to choose one
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: thing at the wedding. And obviously that was Travis's contribution. Yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: because Travis appeared in Happy Gilmore 2 last year. Was
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that an Easter egg? Maybe. But have you seen all
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of the American news reporters? They're like, Adam Sandler from
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: The Wedding Singer performed. He's known for weddings. Well, Adam
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Sandler has actually come out and said that Taylor Swift
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: is one of the only celebrities that he's starstruck by.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So his girls absolutely love her. And he said, oh,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: he just gets really nervous around her because he doesn't
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: want to ruin it for his girls. He's like, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: just want to be cool. Like, I don't want to, like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I get nervous around her. Imagine having that nervous energy
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: at your wedding. Like, she's probably feeling nervous enough. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: then he's like probably sweating. He's a professional. He's an actor. Yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I just want to know what did he wear because
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: he's known not to really dress up. I mean, maybe
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: he was wearing his best white tracksuit to sort of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: blend in with what Travis Kelsey was wearing. I mean,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran came with Nikes on and no tie and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a bright blue suit. Oh, and his wife, Sherry, was
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: wearing a very bright outfit too. Some of the outfits
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's bold. Like imagine having to
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: shop for Taylor Swift's wedding. There was clearly– There was
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: clearly no stipulation on colors that you could wear. Can
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you imagine if you were one of the normies at
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: this wedding? Like say you're Travis Kelsey's long lost uncle
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and you've somehow got an invite to the wedding and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you were standing there and there's Hugh Grant. Like I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: wonder if they were able to take photos or I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: wonder who embarrassed themselves in front of celebrities. Also the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Kelsey family because they were really starstruck by Taylor Swift.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: So imagine, you know, you go in the bathroom, there's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Brad Pitt. But I mean, there were a thousand people there.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, like, and I don't think this would
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: be the case because Taylor Swift's not that sort of person.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But can you imagine if they had like a roped
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: off area for the A-listers? No, they would never. It's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: funny because on a very small level, it reminds me
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: of at my wedding and also at Soap's, we invited
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Gamble Bro from Real Housewives of Melbourne because we've been
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: friends with Gamble for a number of years and we've
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: also done a PR. And it just felt fitting to
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: invite her. Love Gamble. And I think some of our
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: friends who didn't realize the connection were like, oh my God,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: why is Gamble Bro from Real Housewives of Melbourne here?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And the best bit was she was literally sitting like
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: first or second row at Sophie's wedding. But also it
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: was so funny because one of Dale's friends, Nick, he
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: was actually on Survivor and he did the, what is
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: it like the warmup speeches? He was sort of MC
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: for a bit. And he made a joke about Gamble
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: being a D-grade celebrity and how there were D-grade celebrities there.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: And he's like, I really hope I didn't offend her.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: But she was laughing. And because Adelaide's so small and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: my wedding was in January, so it was a very
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: slow news week, someone from the advertiser contacted us to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: do a story about it. And they put in there like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: there were also some familiar faces, Gamble bro, Nick from Survivor.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my God, this is hilarious.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Getting back to Taylor's wedding, it was quite clear that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the media was were hoping that at least one of
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the thousand guests was going to post too much or
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: squeal about what went down. As we touched on, they
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: were reportedly made to sign non-disclosure agreements, which came with
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: their invites. Yet one of the wedding guests clearly broke
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that agreement because he posted a very lengthy insider account
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: of what went on. So he put this up on X.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Now the guest in question was Aaron Aron. So he
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: is the CEO of AMC. So he became friendly with
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Taylor when he negotiated her movie deal. So he brought
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the iris to her to theaters worldwide. So he would
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: be familiar with contracts. Yes. Particularly in NDA. I want
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: to point out that his post has since been removed,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: but he went into a lot of detail about what
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: went down. It kind of reminds me of those older
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: relatives who don't realize they're not allowed to post, you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: their grainy picture of the bride before she's even shared
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: her own photos. Their iPad photo. Their unflattering photo. That
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: happened to me and it was a family friend on
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Risa's side of the family. And I was absolutely spewing
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: because It's like the worst photo of me. And I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: was like, I mean, thank God these people don't have
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: any followers or, you know. Wait, did they tag you?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I remember. It's funny because when I haven't been invited
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to a wedding, but know that someone's wedding's come up,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I always go and look at their Facebook to see
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: if some random relative posted something or you check their
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: tagged photos on Instagram. Well, the difficulty with Taylor's wedding
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: is that all of these people do have a following. So,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and obviously the media were just trying to see anyone
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: mentioning it. In the post, Adam described the transformation of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden saying immediately upon entry, everything, floors, walls,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: ceilings were draped in peach and white. Large blown up
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: pictures of Taylor and Travis at each age, year by year,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: from one year old to late teenagehood were on display. Wow,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing to include at a wedding, isn't it?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I love it. I actually think, I was saying to mum,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, if I was a huge celebrity, I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: would have done that because I'm obsessed with photography. But
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't that seem more like a 21st birthday thing? No,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: because you've got to remember- When you have a wedding,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: it's all about you. It's like the last real celebration
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of you as an adult. It's almost like if you
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: choose to have children. The celebrations are then about your children.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: This is the last time for them to be. I mean,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: it's a bit of storytelling from the start. And these
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: are two families coming together. A lot of people on
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a very small level on tables, they will have pictures
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: of them as children. I feel like a lot of
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: critics will say that this is very ego driven, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's a really cute touch. I think it's
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: so cute. He continued in the post saying a small
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: portion of MSG was cornered off, devoid of any notion
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that a basketball or hockey game ever shared that space.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Somehow magically someone created an outdoor garden at a lush
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: countryside retreat everything draped off this time in green and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: white real flowers and i think artificial trees welcome 15
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: rows of maybe 74 or so chairs they say there
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: were around 1000 attendees but surprisingly it felt intimate and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: small everything was close. I just love the detail that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: this guy has gone into, particularly on a platform like
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: X that doesn't really let you share a lot. He's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: obviously made multiple posts about it. It reminds me of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: our dad because anything he goes to, he has to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: write a full review of it. He's got the most
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: TripAdvisor reviews in the state of anybody. I just found
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it interesting that he also spoke about how intimate this
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: wedding felt because when the Good Morning America host spoke
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: about it, they chose a very similar line. They said,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Despite there being a thousand people, it felt very intimate.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if they have been told, you can
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: say this and this and these points. Tree pain has
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: given them some key messaging to stick to. Please do
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: not mention X, Y and Z. Well, I was interested
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to hear that the theme was described as Alice in
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Wonderland meets Wizard of Oz. It sounds very sort of mystical.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a fan of that for
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a wedding. But that is so Taylor. That's the thing
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: for me. For me personally, no, but for Taylor, yes. Also,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: for me personally, yes, if I had a billion dollars. Yeah, true.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? You know, that on a budget wouldn't
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: be so nice. You're not going to your local costume
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: shop and getting some tacky decorations. Like this is, I mean,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I can already see it in my mind, particularly all
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the greenery. Like I think that's what people were expecting
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: from that she would go to some location that had
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: that naturally. But she has the means to bring that inside.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And also with the Eras tour, you were able to
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: see how she was able to transform those sets into
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: different worlds. So she probably thought, well, I've got to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: know the best people in the business to be able
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to do this. Well, as we touched on earlier, Adam
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: even dropped details on what the bride and groom wore.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: So he wrote, a few violins and cellos ushered in
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the wedding party, headlined by handsome Travis in a white
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: tux and a jaw-dropping tailor in a stunning white dress
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: with a long veiled train. We needed more details on
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the dress as well. As for Adam Sandler, it was
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a bit weird because he didn't actually specifically name him,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: but just said he was funny, welcoming and eloquent. He
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: also described the vows as long, entertaining, personal, charming, emotional,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: irreverent and an endearing exploration of how they met and
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: why they wanted to be with each other for eternity.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I've heard the vows went for 20 minutes each, so
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: 40 minutes in total. But who wouldn't want to listen
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to that? I actually saw the cutest meme And it said,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I hope Travis Kelsey enjoys growing old with Taylor Swift
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: as much as we enjoyed growing up with her. You
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: know what? Usually it is a bit of a no-no
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to have like a really long speech and vows. But
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: if you're Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, everyone's hanging off
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: every word. See, that's my favorite bit of the wedding.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I rub my hands together. I'm like,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: let's hear what they're going to say. And also, do
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you think Adam Sandler had the job? Because when you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: get married by a celebrant, they get your vows beforehand
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and they go, okay, add a little bit more or
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: this doesn't, you know, yours is a little bit too jokey. Like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: do you think that they matched up? Because how much
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: pressure was on Travis Kelsey to nail these vows? That's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: what I was going to say. I don't think Taylor
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: would have needed any help, but perhaps there was someone
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: from Taylor's team kind of coaching Travis on what to write. Now,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Adam added, what was clear above all else was simply this,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: their profound love. This is no small love. Each at
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the absolute pinnacle of their worlds. each so obviously head
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: over heels about having found their soulmate. I thought that
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: was such a lovely way to put it. Now, when
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Taylor and Travis were named husband and wife, Adam described
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: their kiss as a sweep you off your feet kiss.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So you can just imagine that. And he said that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the party then started with lots of music, superb food
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and drink. As for the entertainment, he added, it was music, music, music,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and finished by saying, I wish you all could have
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: been there with me to witness real, pure, true joy.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, me too, Adam, me too. Well, also TMZ
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: are now reporting that Travis Kelsey was in tears throughout
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's vows. Of course he was. Brandon, your husband, Sophie.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: would like to hear this because he was teary the
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: whole time. If we're drawing more similarities here.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Was it tear or sweat?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Because maybe Travis Kelsey was also sweating. So many parallels,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: aren't there? According to Demois as well, apparently the whole
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: room was in tears when Taylor gave her speech because
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: she recalled how she once wondered, if love would ever
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: happen to her after people spent years saying her life
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: was too much. Everyone's like, babe, we know, we listen
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: to the CDs. Why am I getting shivers when I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: hear all of this? Like I am so jealous of
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: this 70 year old guy, Adam, that got to sit
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: front row at this, but I love that he's given
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: his rundown of events. I think if I had a wedding,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I think I'd like him to, you know, report back
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: on what happened. It was absolutely very lovely, all the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: things that he said. Sad he had to delete it. Now,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: one of the guests gave us an insight into what
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: was on the table at the wedding. So country singer,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Maureen Morris shared a photo of a napkin edged in
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: lace and embroidered with the two T's intertwined in hearts.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And alongside it was the wedding date, the location, and
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: a line from Blank Space. So on the napkin, it read,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: so it's going to be forever. I love that. I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: think some people will say, oh, this turkey to incorporate
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: her own lyrics and how self-indulgent. But I mean, so
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: many millennial's have had Taylor songs as part of their
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: weddings and a special moment. I mean, she wrote the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: fucking song. But also, but Travis Kelsey, who was a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: fan of Taylor Swift, he was at her concert and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: then called out and said he wanted to meet her.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe he asked to have that. And you know, people
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: are saying, oh, how self-indulgent for Taylor to walk down
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the aisle to her own song. It's like, Maybe Travis
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Kelsey requested that. Surely they would have had to have
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: friendship bracelets as Bomboneri. I feel like Taylor Swift would
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: be a bride that would have handwritten every guest some
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: special note on their table. I know there were a
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: thousand people, but she is so dedicated to, like there
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: was this whole thing, I don't know, it was 10
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: years ago when she was buying fans Christmas presents and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: writing personalized notes. Like I feel like she would definitely
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: do that. I saw all these pap shots of the
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: last celebrities to leave the wedding. And I just thought
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: that would have been me if I was invited. You
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: would have to hold me out of there. They would
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: have had to drag me out. Who was it? So, well,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: apparently Sabrina Carpenter. Kesha, the Chainsmokers, Avril Lavigne and Tate McRae.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Apparently they all stayed late doing karaoke. Oh my God,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: how iconic would have this been? Like, do they do
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: karaoke to their own songs? Or just like Sabrina Kaufman
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to go, oh Avril, I'm going to have a little
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: go at Sk8er Boi. You can do Espresso. I wonder
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: if they only could do Taylor Swift karaoke. No, surely not.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Now Kate, you touched on the fact that there were
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: personalized number plates going on. Well, it was pretty cute
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: because Travis and Taylor left in a red 70s Chevy
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: sports car with the Just Married on the back. And
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: this was a throwback to the car that Travis drove
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Taylor in after her first Chiefs game back in September 2023.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: And it was infamously touted as their getaway car. So
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I think that that is a really beautiful touch. What
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I want to know is how did they get the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: car out of there with the newlyweds in it? Everyone
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: could have heard the cans rattling as it drove out.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised they actually didn't do that. I mean, that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: would have been a really cute shot. The paparazzi getting that.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, Taylor wouldn't have been in the wedding dress
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that she walked down the aisle. She could have, you know,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: she would have been in a going away outfit type
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: of vibe. Well, the exit everyone's talking about is Taylor's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: caterers leaving. Have you guys seen this TikTok that he
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: drove out? and started handing out boxes of cakes to
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the crowd. There's been a video on TikTok, which has
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: gone absolutely viral of a man taking out one of
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the desserts and eating it. The issue for Taylor Swift
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: now is that people are drawing comparisons between Mary Antoinette
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and Taylor Swift because they're saying this is a very
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: let them eat cake moment. The fact that they were
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: even handing out bits of cake during this heat wave.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I wonder if she approved it. Well, one TikToker summed
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: this up very well. We are going to throw again
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to TikToker JJ.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I honestly don't think there's anything that summarises the United
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: States better right now than Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: a billionaire and a millionaire, getting married in a stadium,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: shutting down public infrastructure on the 4th of July weekend
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: during this administration. which they've been very, very quiet about,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: around the 250th of the USA, surrounded by the elite
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: and by police. I honestly could not create a better
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: icon for the Hunger Games reality in which we live
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: if I tried. It's art. It is high art. Or rather,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: it would be if it was being done in irony.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: But it's not. It's being played totally straight. And that's
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: what's sending me. It is so dystopian. The just married
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: sign on the side of the venue. I was like,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: this is a Black Mirror episode. This is also where
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: the literacy crisis kicks in because honestly, they could have
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: let them eat cake plastered on the side of that
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: venue and people would be like, oh, they're having cake.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: They want us to have cake too. Let's go and
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: buy cake, Taylor's version.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: As much as I hate to say it, he kind
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: of does have a point. Like some of the optics
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: of this, I don't know whether they were thought about
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: by her PR team. She probably had no idea that
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the caterers were going to go handing out bits of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: cake and pastries to everyone. And to be fair, this
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: man's holding a Danish. Maybe they didn't like the optics
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: of the caterers tossing out all the food in a
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: dumpster that could be visible. He'll go peasants. cake for everyone.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: But the people that were standing out the front were
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: literally fans wearing wedding dresses. Like, can you imagine how
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: exciting it would have been to be given a piece
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: of dessert from the wedding? Because I was thinking I
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: would have held on to this piece. I would have
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: been like, you know, when people keep The fruitcake for years.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: And years and years.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they freeze it and they bring out a slice
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: on their anniversary. I would have had that Danish. It
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: would have been like in a museum or something. What
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: do you think about JJ saying that Taylor and Travis
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: perfectly sum up the state of the US at the moment?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I just think that people are hating on them for
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the sake of hating on them.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Again, I am the biggest fan of Taylor Swift.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love that woman. But he does make some
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: pretty good points about the fact that the wedding's on
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: July 4th weekend. Like everything is just so over the top.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: patriotic optics but can people just like can we just
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: let taylor swift have a wedding like what we just
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: enjoy anything i saw steph claire smith getting a lot
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: of backlash after she posted a video sort of saying
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: look can we just let her enjoy her day like
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: people are just jealous I think it was the term,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: you're just jealous. And while I think it is a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: lot more complex in terms of the state of America
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: at the moment, all of these dystopian vibes, however, I
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: think what's leading to a lot of criticism from Taylor
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Swift fans is the fact that everyone desperately wanted to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: go to this wedding. And then when you see A-listers
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: like Brad Pitt and Hugh Grant and, you know, all
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: those people there, you're like, hang on. Taylor Swift, I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: thought she was one of us. Well, this is a
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: very elite of the elite, isn't it?
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: She's not one of us. And then, you know, I mean,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: obviously she's not, she's the biggest celebrity in the world.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: And then people also think that they know better than
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. They go, oh no, we know her so
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: well that This isn't the wedding that she wanted, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: this is the wedding that she wanted because this is
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the wedding that she put on. So let's respect it
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and celebrate it. I also think it didn't help that
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: they actually affected the lives of so many New Yorkers though.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: And the way that people use social media now, so
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: many people were able to air their grievances in real time.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: And you kind of felt sorry for them because- You've
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: all been in a situation where you are in the
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: heat and you've been fucked over or like some inconvenient thing.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: But don't you think it was that like FOMO thing
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: too that you're like, I'm sitting here sweltering. And all
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: these A-list celebrities are at this party that I would
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: give my left arm to go to. It's that social
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: thing where you think she's one of us. It's like
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it couldn't be highlighted any further. You know, she's reached
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: billionaire status. She's the most successful female artist in history.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: You know, she had all these people at a concert.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Like you couldn't have it any more obvious, but she
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: does it so well. It's a little bit like Molly May.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: She plays that related with Lily Card so well. And
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: it's like, is this the final straw? Tree pain's like, fuck,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: we're going to have to release some photos of our
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: cats or something at the ceremony to normalize it. All
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I want to know is when are we getting the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: photos because I'm hungry for them. And I mean, surely,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: like it's not the typical case of where your photographer
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: not having time to edit up a couple of shots,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: like fucking get onto it. Well, I've seen some theories
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: floating around online. that this was so public because it's
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: actually being filmed for a docu-series on Disney +. Do
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you think that could be the case? Look, never say never.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't think they were going to get married at
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden, so I have no idea what these
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: two are doing. I kind of would like to think not.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of, it's a private moment, but
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: there were a thousand people there. So who knows? Maybe
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: they will have the whole thing. I'm desperate to see
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the vision. Is this the spinoff of, what was that?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Catching Kelsey? Is this the finale of it? I mean,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I actually think we could see something like that. I mean,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: it would make more sense because at the moment I'm
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: still scratching my head. I still don't quite understand the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: whole thing. I'm going to put it out there. I
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: am 90% sure that we are going to get a
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: docuseries on this wedding. Maybe that 70-year-old guy, maybe the
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: reason he put that on Twitter or X or whatever
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: is because he's going to be rolling out in cinemas. Potentially.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: That's the Easter egg. They are the American royal family.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: It's good enough for the Brits. It should be good
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: enough for Taylor and Travis. No, but this just reminds
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: me of the Kardashians' wedding. They do that. That is
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: crossing the line. That is tacky. Well, I think that's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: where we're going to leave things for today. Thank you
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: so much for listening to this very special Taylor Swift
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: wedding edition of Outspoken, the podcast. If we don't get
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: these photos soon, I'm going to riot. Don't worry, next
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: week won't be all Taylor-focused, all about the photos. I'm
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: going to riot after the let them eat cake. Let
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: them eat cake. Don't you revolt. But yes, that is
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: all we have time for today. Thank you for joining us.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: elders past and present.