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8-06-26 Hour 2 - Forcing your way out, NFL HOF-bound players/How's the offense looking?/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: I gotta what clarify something with that, sax State, Scott,
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  Speaker 1: My brethren, stingers up, your stingers up, get your stingers vibrating.
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  Speaker 1: I guess the line I got it wrong when I
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  Speaker 1: say you're gonna lose me forever if you keep talking
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  Speaker 1: about that, and then I tried to pull off the
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  Speaker 1: Meg Ryan line from Top Gun. I guess it really
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  Speaker 1: is take me to bed or lose me forever. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad I just said kiss me and then or
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  Speaker 1: lose me forever, because it would have come out all
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  Speaker 1: kinds weird. But thank you Scott for the clarification on
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  Speaker 1: what in the movie Top Gun. Good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But I understand the hatred of players who force their
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  Speaker 3: way out of your beloved state. I get it, especially
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  Speaker 3: when it happens to the team that you.
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  Speaker 1: Cover in Well, Pnico didn't exactly force his way out.
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  Speaker 1: He just screwed it all up.
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  Speaker 3: He screwed it all up, like they his camp very
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  Speaker 3: clearly overvalued what he could get on the on the
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  Speaker 3: open market. It's the reason why they signed for the exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if he had waited a couple of years, he
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  Speaker 1: will probably get that money now, he'd be being eighteen
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  Speaker 1: million dollars a year, guy seventeen or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 3: But to boil it all down, force his way out, right,
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  Speaker 3: but your hatred notwithstanding, Like you could look at me,
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  Speaker 3: go Ranton and go that's a future Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 3: The same thing happened with Aaronatto man. Like he gets
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  Speaker 3: his two thousandth hit, he now has two thousand hits,
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  Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty home runs, ten Gold Gloves. He
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  Speaker 3: is the I believe, the sixth player in MLB history
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  Speaker 3: to have all of those accolades, and he joins Willie May's,
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  Speaker 3: Ken Griffey Junior, Mike Schmidt, Johnny Bench, and Al Kaylin
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  Speaker 3: like that's a future Hall of Famer. Do you hate him?
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  Speaker 3: Sure you can hate him, but you can't like the
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  Speaker 3: hatred say he's not a Hall of Fame player. You
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  Speaker 3: just simply can't do it. You can't do it. Watch me,
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  Speaker 3: what do you mean watching? I mean you can say,
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  Speaker 3: you can say it. I'm not gonna say it. Go
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  Speaker 3: ahead and say it. And you're you have the gall
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  Speaker 3: to say it's not personal.
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  Speaker 1: No, I it's not personal, which is a crock of Well. Look,
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, if you would just if okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's the last thing I'm gonna say about this, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, I'm taking a look right now. But abu
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  Speaker 1: bu bu bup uh. He's but he's hitting two forty
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  Speaker 1: four in Arizona. That's good.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine in today's Actually he's actually hit
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  Speaker 3: sixteen dong, so that's probably pretty good. That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, can you believe two forty four is fine?
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  Speaker 1: That's not fine. Two sixty five is fine. Two forty
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  Speaker 1: four stinks. But nonetheless, if you had just gone out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with grace and whatnot, and it actually gave
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  Speaker 1: the Rocks some love when they those fans loved him, man,
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  Speaker 1: that Father's Day game when he's bloody and just covered
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  Speaker 1: in filth, and you know, just makes the slide and
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  Speaker 1: everybody's going crazy insane for him and showing him all
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  Speaker 1: the love in the world and curtain calls and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Just acknowledge that, Yeah, you don't have to get to
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis at the time and then treat your old
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  Speaker 1: fans like dirt. It pisses me off. I ain't never
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  Speaker 1: gotten a reception like this, my butt. Those people loved you, bro,
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  Speaker 1: they gave you everything. Bro. Your freaking jerseys still hanging
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  Speaker 1: in corps Field. That jersey from that day is still
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  Speaker 1: hanging in the in the area there in corps Field.
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  Speaker 1: So that just that just left the bad taste in
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  Speaker 1: my mouth. Is he a future Hall of Famer? Sure? Fine, great,
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  Speaker 1: you got me to say it. Are you happy? To
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  Speaker 1: make you happy? To float your boat?
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  Speaker 3: It feels like I won the argument, So yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: makes me. It makes me happy. I like I like
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  Speaker 3: the hatred, don't get me wrong. Speaking of the Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Fame players, Bill Arwell if ESPN came out with
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  Speaker 3: an article early today showcasing the future Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 3: Players or Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: Issue hold on players stop stop. Yes, the three or
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  Speaker 1: four to two motion sounds like he wouldn't vote for
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  Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan and the Hall of Fame either, for whatever
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  Speaker 1: personal reasons? Are you kidding me, Raj? What do I
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  Speaker 1: say in this program at least once a week Mike
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  Speaker 1: Shanahan is it's a crime against humanity in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: that he's not in the Hall of Fame. It's the
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  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame is committing a crime against Mike
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  Speaker 1: Shanahan's coaches yesterday this weekend, and there's coaches. Boy, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about yesterday on the program. We talked about Dick
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  Speaker 1: Vermeil and Jimmy Johnson not going to the Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame weekend to protest a guy like Shanny not being
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  Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. I sat here for ten
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  Speaker 1: minutes yesterday and absolutely laid out the case, not only
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  Speaker 1: the not only the winning which is which is enough,
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  Speaker 1: not only the taking that West Coast offense, tweaking it
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  Speaker 1: and making it his own, absolutely kicking ass, but the
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  Speaker 1: coaching tree that he spawned, for God's sake, which really
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  Speaker 1: comes off the Bill Walls tree, because the Bill wallsh
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  Speaker 1: tree led to the Seafort tree, led the Shanty Tree,
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  Speaker 1: and so on. But the coaching tree that he spawned
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  Speaker 1: is is Hall of Fame significant. So three oh four two,
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  Speaker 1: put your name at the end of the text, police,
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  Speaker 1: so I can blast you. Mike Shanahan absolutely is a
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and should be in there this very second,
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  Speaker 1: and every second it ticks by that he's not is
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  Speaker 1: a crime against football. I hope, I hope, I hope that.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that clarifies my position.
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  Speaker 3: The Shanahan coaching tree is Kubiak, It's his son Kyle,
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  Speaker 3: It's Sean McVay, it's Shane Stike, and it's Mike McDaniel,
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  Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur, it's Bobby Slowick, it's Arthur Smith, it's Clint Kubiak,
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  Speaker 3: it's Kevin Stefanski. It's Kevin O'Connell, who might be the
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  Speaker 3: best like quarterbacks coach in football, Which is the reason
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  Speaker 3: why another one of my hot takes this year is
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  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is the comeback player of the Year because
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  Speaker 3: I think he's gonna win the starting job in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that O'Connell is going to do with
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  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray as he did with Sam Darnold. I just
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  Speaker 3: I've got a feeling in my loins like.
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  Speaker 1: Clint Kobiak in Vegas. Did you mention him yet? I
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  Speaker 1: mean all these guys, Brian Callahan, I mean all these guys,
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  Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, all Liam Cohne right now, the head coach,
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  Speaker 1: Shyton Stike, all these dudes.
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  Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, right, look at what Liam Cohne has done
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  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. He's made Trevor Lawrence back into exactly the
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  Speaker 3: next coming of the great quarterback that he was supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be out of Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: And I've also said on more than one occasion that
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  Speaker 1: I've been tuned up by Mike Shanahan really well. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's he has the ability, He's a brilliant guy, and
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  Speaker 1: he can tune you up if he wants to tune
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  Speaker 1: you up. And I've been tuned up by him. Take it,
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  Speaker 1: agree with it, go you know what, Coach, You're right,
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely he should. He should be in the Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame today. And that's my final take on that. And
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  Speaker 1: somebody also said, God, people are really making me mad
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  Speaker 1: this morning. The eight eight four nine Arenado's the best
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  Speaker 1: Rocky ever period, No most dry off your blank and
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  Speaker 1: admit it. No, man, he's a top five Rocky.
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  Speaker 3: He's not the best.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, Larry Walker's in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: Todd Helton gets to have that, Dude, Todd Helton, it
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  Speaker 1: will go down in my in my Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 1: of people but also players. The guy was the guy's
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  Speaker 1: an all time rock He's he's the he's the best
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  Speaker 1: Rocky in the history of the franchise.
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  Speaker 3: My TikTok algorithm algorithm. Most since I'm you know, a
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  Speaker 3: young and compared to some of my brethren here at
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  Speaker 3: Altitude Sports Radio right has me on mid two thousands
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  Speaker 3: baseball stars hitting dongs, and normally you get like you'll
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  Speaker 3: get the Barry Bonds and you'll get the Sammy Sosa
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  Speaker 3: and the Mark maguire late nineties things. What came across
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  Speaker 3: my phone this morning when I woke up at four
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  Speaker 3: o'clock was Todd Helton hitting moonshots.
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  Speaker 1: I saw Todd Helton throwing balls off the hill at
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  Speaker 1: tennis is a relief pitcher, and he was freaking awesome. God,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a big fan of Todd Helton as
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  Speaker 1: a dude. I'm a big fan of Todd Helton as
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  Speaker 1: a player. So there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of Hall of Fame things in general. Again. You
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  Speaker 3: can listen to the Hall of Fame game tonight on
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  Speaker 3: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five at six o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be Carolina and the Arizona Cardinals.
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  Speaker 1: Aren't you jacked up a little bit too? What to
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  Speaker 1: see some live football? I sure, am.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about a whole bunch On Friday. Bill Barnwell
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  Speaker 3: came out with an article this morning on ESPN showcasing
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  Speaker 3: the players that he believes are Hall of Fame bound
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  Speaker 3: or on the edge of making the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 3: And here are the Broncos that he highlighted under the
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  Speaker 3: keep it up category. He doesn't have anyone in yet,
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  Speaker 3: and I.
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  Speaker 1: For he's got to be number one.
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  Speaker 3: Keep it up, Nick Benito, Okay, Quinn Minor is very
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  Speaker 3: difficult to get in as a guard, but the start
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  Speaker 3: of his career has been excellent. And cornerback Pat Sertin.
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  Speaker 1: I'd agree, yeah, I think, I think well as far
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  Speaker 1: as Benito is concerned, I'm going to need much more data.
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  Speaker 3: He needs to play more.
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  Speaker 1: Well he needs I mean, he's still young in his
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  Speaker 1: career too, but I'm going to need I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: need to see these numbers pile up year after year
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  Speaker 1: after year after year and again. Colle Man, every career
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  Speaker 1: is different and careers take different paths, but right now
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  Speaker 1: he's a total stud. But you're going to have to
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  Speaker 1: see the production occur year after year before I can
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  Speaker 1: even remotely think that that's being said. There's no doubt,
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  Speaker 1: there's not a bone in my body that doesn't think
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  Speaker 1: that patzer Tan is not going to produce the way
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  Speaker 1: he has for the rest of his entire life. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that guy the first time I saw him walk
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  Speaker 1: onto the field. Because when you're watching football on TV,
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  Speaker 1: you're watching the Alabama Crimson Tide, right, you're going that
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  Speaker 1: guy looks like a stud. But it's when you get
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  Speaker 1: your you get your eyeballs on a guy in person,
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  Speaker 1: and you see the way they operate, the way they move,
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  Speaker 1: the way they play, the way they read things. That's
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  Speaker 1: when you go, oh, good God, almighty. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: he was that great. But that's Pat Sertan. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: who he is. And by the way, it seems kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing could be with a cal mccarr until you
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  Speaker 1: can watch him play at UMass or whatever. But until
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  Speaker 1: you get your eyeballs on him in person, rage in
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  Speaker 1: the rake and watch that Game three against Calgary was
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Lord Almighty, this guy is gonna be great.
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  Speaker 3: The first period that you saw cal mccarr on the
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  Speaker 3: ice went, oh, that's different that it just looks different.
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  Speaker 3: And I agree, Pattertan, he looks different.
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  Speaker 1: So he's he's in. I'm right now, sure, go for it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see August fifth, twenty twenty six. Pat Sertan is in.
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  Speaker 1: Go to In fact, they're sewing the gold jacket. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna press it, They're gonna put it underneath that little
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  Speaker 1: cell of fane. They're gonna hang in the closet until
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  Speaker 1: he retires.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's got an aclade that is difficult to win,
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  Speaker 3: which is Defensive Player of the Year as a defensive back.
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  Speaker 3: Going back to Nick Benito thing, it has to be
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  Speaker 3: many years of him doing what he's done over the
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  Speaker 3: past two seasons, and I worry that you're not gonna
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  Speaker 3: have the you know, the counting statistics, the you know
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  Speaker 3: the sack numbers because he just doesn't play enough.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: That was my our big argument when we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about the Nick Benito contract on the morning sprint. Why
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  Speaker 3: it was so much lower than other players that are
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  Speaker 3: star edge rushers, the Miles Garretts, the TJ Watts, the
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  Speaker 3: Max Crosby's. Look no further than the snap count. Nick
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  Speaker 3: Benito plays like sixty percent, sixty five percent of the
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  Speaker 3: snap so it's very clear he is a situational passage.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's because yeah, that's because that's his job, right, But.
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  Speaker 3: You know who the what the job is of Miles Garrett,
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  Speaker 3: it's the same jobs as Nick Benito, go get the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: He plays eighty two percent of his team snaps. You
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  Speaker 3: know what the job of TJ. Watt is, It's to
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  Speaker 3: go get the quarterback. In Pittsburgh, he plays eighty two,
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  Speaker 3: eighty six, eighty three of his team snaps. The job
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  Speaker 3: of Max Crosby is to get the quarterback. You know
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  Speaker 3: how many snaps he played last year ninety four percent
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  Speaker 3: of his team's defensive snaps. Benito plays in like the
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  Speaker 3: mid sixties at the very best, in order for him
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  Speaker 3: to get into that patzer Tann conversation of like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's like Canton bound that those numbers need to get
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  Speaker 3: into the.
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  Speaker 1: But that's but that's Slay more. But that's the way
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  Speaker 1: this defense is designed, Roger. I've said it. Everybody gets
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  Speaker 1: a taste, and I think I think it works. So
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  Speaker 1: maybe we should just give him a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: credit for playing in what sixty two percent of the
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  Speaker 1: snaps is still racking up the the sacks that he
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  Speaker 1: is getting, So it means he's obviously elite because he's
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  Speaker 1: getting that many and fewer snaps. So we'll see, we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's got he's got that, he's got
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  Speaker 1: to have. He's got to have more years of it.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't even remotely go there yet. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna have Jeff Flagwall join us at nine this morning,
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  Speaker 3: eight forty five will have uh oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: So I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know what to expect tonight from this football game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing Jacoby Brissett's not gonna play.
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  Speaker 3: Cooby Tresett is not playing. It is h Carson Beck
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  Speaker 3: against Kenny Pickett.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so Bryce Young is not gonna touch you. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he's not touching the field either. Guy, there's Jeremiah Love
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  Speaker 1: for Arizona. Don't you just want to see somebody hit
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  Speaker 1: somebody like I'd love to see Alfons are right now,
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  Speaker 1: just blow up, Mitchell. I mean, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: see somebody get tackled to the ground. What did mitchelle
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  Speaker 1: you ever do to you? It's not it's not, actually Mitchell.
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  Speaker 1: It's just there's that that human right there. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it could be it could be this nerd over here
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  Speaker 1: to our left from from what's its face. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it could be anybody. But just the fact is, there's
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  Speaker 1: no tackling to the ground at Broncos Camp zero.
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  Speaker 2: Not.
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  Speaker 1: If anybody ends up on the ground, it's a mistake.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you should have heard it yesterday during the first
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  Speaker 3: team period, the like the second snap, there was an
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  Speaker 3: inside handoff and a couple of guys got tripped up,
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  Speaker 3: right because you're you're supposed to wrap up right, You're
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  Speaker 3: you're at least getting the fit, but you're not bringing
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  Speaker 3: anyone down to the ground. Second play, six bodies hit
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  Speaker 3: the ground.
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  Speaker 1: All you hear is yeah, yeah, if if guys, if
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  Speaker 1: guys hit the turf, if there if a butt hits
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  Speaker 1: the turf out here, it's something went wrong, right, somebody
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  Speaker 1: got tripped up and there's like a domino effect. Whatever
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  Speaker 1: it may be, and and that's fine, but now you're
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  Speaker 1: getting football tonight right here on altitude ninety two to five.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting a real football game where guys are going
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  Speaker 1: to try to earn jobs and good let's let's see
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  Speaker 1: somebody actually get put in the dirt. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: You're listening to Mose, Lombardi and can Raj filling in
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• 14:27
  Speaker 3: coverage from Broncos training camp will be followed up from
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  Speaker 3: ten to two by our Training Camp Show with d Mac,
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Scottie Columbus and Coach Sanford.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: By the way, I asked d Mac, I said, what
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  Speaker 1: time are you going to get here? Because I need
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: him to bring me a zerteg d Pill. I'm hanging
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: in there pretty good, but I can just feel that
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  Speaker 1: nose in the eyeballs and he says, nine to fifty.
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  Speaker 3: D Mac will be the sixth person here. Columbus is
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  Speaker 3: gonna beat him. I guarantee it. Okay, Columbus, Let's I
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  Speaker 3: already got it. I'm one for one Chris Mitchell is
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  Speaker 3: the first. Well, but Mitchell's an easy one because he's
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: a hard worker. All right, So we got Mitchell, that's
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  Speaker 3: a given Mitchell. You knew Chris was gonna be here.
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  Speaker 3: Then you got Columbus, Then you've got d Mac. Then
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  Speaker 3: you got Coach. I got Cole Smith, Okay, Cole then Coach,
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  Speaker 3: then Scotty Correct okay, and then the Crakman and Lindall
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  Speaker 3: show at the same time. Likely Krekman first, I've already
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  Speaker 3: won for one. I'm gonna I'm on a great Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Fame trajector.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Krekman's looking thinn Man. Have you seen
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: him lately? So is Andy?
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, the whole Afternoon show is looking thin.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: What are they on? Are they on the shots? You think?
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Are they doing the shots?
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Three like all the Hollywood starlets look like skeletor septize
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Actually know, Andy has been getting treatments at the Rocky
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Mountains Men's Clinic. They out your boys more.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Well, they've got all the all the you know, the
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: GPS and PDAs and all that stuff.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Dude, Andy with the PDA.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: LA he looks I mean they look great. Man, there's
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: some summer bodies. I listen if if there's any any
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: advertisement for the Rocky Mountain Men's Clinic, look at Lindall
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: for God's sake, Sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy.
• 16:13
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• 16:15
  Speaker 1: You will never love me again. I can see. That's
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: gotta be one of the best Fleetwood Mac songs of
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: all time, does it not? See? I'm not gonna never
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: break the change.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and take a deuce on
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Fleetwood Mac. You can get me on board with Fleetwood Mac. Okay, good,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: you should be listened to yesterday. You'll never win me over.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: But Jenna Jackson eighties Lady Pop, Well, Jenna Jackson is awesome.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: So that's all I'm gonna say.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: You can win me over on Fleetwood, Yeah, me over
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: on Foreigner.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: The only problem with Fleetwood Mac over the years, and
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: this is a very controversial take, is that Stevie Nick
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: sounds like a billy goat man. You know. Other than that,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Christine mcviee god rest her soul, brilliant vocalist and pianist.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I mean McK fleetwood and John H. Mcvee and and
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Lindsey Bucky and they were just they were just awesome.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: But against Stevie, brilliant artist, great talent, Matt Matt, Matt,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: About ninety minutes before the Broncos get on out here
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: for what is expected to be and it almost guaranteed
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: to be a non padded practice because they're gonna take
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: it easy. They're gonna take it easy today. They'll take
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: it easy tomorrow.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Dude. If they're not sipping lemonade in between drills in
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: a lawn chair today, I'm gonna be shocked, man. I
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: mean they yesterday was longing. Look what's so funny the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: perspective though, dude, thirty years ago. Okay, let's just go
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: back to Sanny's you know, first year. Okay, whatever, bring
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: me in the time back. I'm not even going to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Dan Reeves. I'm not going to the eighties.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Hot tub time machine.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: We're talking your hot tub time machine. We're talking two days.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: They would, dude, they'd go for two hours in the morning,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the two hours in the afternoon, and they would hit
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and they would run into each other hard and they
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: would tackle to the ground. And there's Oklahoma drills. Dude,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: if this is like even yesterday, we're going, oh my god,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: they went two hours and twelve minutes, that's like a
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: that was that was that's a result. I mean for
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: these guys, that's that's like a resort day. I mean,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the guys fly. Yeah, the guys back in the day
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: would have like that. That would have been like a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: resort day to then. But today, yeah, I'm expecting just
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you know, just nothing in terms of of touching or
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: anything like that. It's gonna be a relatively calm day today.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I would expect probably the same tomorrow because Saturday is
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the scrimmage. Sean Payton's gonna be out. But but the Vans,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, and you'll have some help.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: From Johnny Mooreton too.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: That yeah, correct, And then I'm sure Davis on the
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: offensive side, they'll take care of things. But that's gonna
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: be okay. We're gonna work really really hard that that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Saturday in a hundred by the way, one hundred degree weather.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna be in the mid nineties today, So
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: far cry from what the last two mornings were like
• 18:55
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• 18:58
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• 19:02
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• 19:08
  Speaker 3: couple of things. Cortland Sutton sits out for the second
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: straight day on a veteran day. There's no news of
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: injury with him. It was just two straight days of
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: your number one wide receiver not playing. And then twenty
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: five minutes into practice, jayalen Watta looked like he was
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: uh tired, not into practice, but leaves under his own power,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: slowly walks into the locker room. Sean Payton would then
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: tell the media that he's not concerned about it. We
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: just think it's a little bit of muscle tightness. We're
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: playing it very, very easy. As DMAK coined it yesterday
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: in the training.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Camp, I love this is I love this.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: It's the nothing to see here training camp.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. D Mak and Tyler and Coach and Scotty were
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: all over that the nothing to see here. I love
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that because I think it's incredibly accurate.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Last year is the no drama training camp and this
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: year is the don't look behind the curtain like it's okay,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: don't worry abou.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but coach, coach, you're the you know your your
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: third string linebacker. His foot is in the end zone,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but he's laying on the forty.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's fine.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Now, that's that's that's essentially. I have no reason. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: have zero reason on the planet to disbelieve Sean Payton. Now,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: zero reason. I think he's absolutely accurate and telling us
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent truth. That being said, that comes out
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: for every single guy who's not on the field. It
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: cracks me up.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: The issue about this, the worry about this is what
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: we saw out of the first team offense yesterday, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: that was Yeah, a couple of plays worked right. There
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: was a twenty yard touchdown past to Troy Franklin, who's
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: had two really good days at practice. Day one was
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: the Troy Franklin day, and yesterday pretty good. I wouldn't
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: say he balled out, but he was stepping into number
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: one role like he was playing well as he was
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: playing the courtland shortain role. And then you saw a
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: pretty good day.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Matt Bryant was to Brian.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Because he stepped into the Jaln Waddle roll yesterday. But
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the offense as a whole struggled mightily yesterday. It can
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: be expected, right, Luke Wattenberg, your starting center has been
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: out for the last three days of practice with in
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: upper body injury, and therefore the defensive line of the Broncs.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: We talked about Malcolm Roach and DJ Jones, we talked
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: about Jasrique and Zach Allen. The defensive line yesterday dominated.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Well. The defense, raj is psychologically built different than the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: offense anyway. And if you get beat the first couple
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: three days and you're losing that day as a unit,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: those guys, they've got some incredible dogs on the defensive
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: side of the football. Those guys, I'm sure are like, hey,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: we're bringing it today, and then they brought it the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: next day, then they brought it the next day, right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a certain amount of pride that
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: goes into that that we don't want to be beat
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: every single day by this offense. So it doesn't surprise
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: me at all that the defense has stepped it up,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: got that little dog going, and then you're missing some
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: guys on the offensive side of the ball, so it
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: changes the dynamic.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: There was a moment yesterday when they were running routes
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: on air right in front of us before they transitioned
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: into the first full team period, where like Bo was
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: kind of barking at his wide receivers. I think there
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: was a little bit of frustration there knowing that like
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: he didn't have Courtland at his disposal. He then very
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: clearly realized like, oh, something's going on with Jalen and
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: it was guys, Jalen Wattle on Monday and Tuesday was
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: unfreaking believable, like so really good, ridiculously dynamic. Tuesday was
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: the day that I thought it was gonna be the
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Jalen Wattle show because I didn't expect them to be
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: in in pads and he ended up he balled out
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I pads, Like the one on one drills that he
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: was doing against pats or ten were ridiculous. And there
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: was some frustration with Bo yesterday and he barked at
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: a couple of his wide receivers on routes against air.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: It just felt like there was a little bit of frustration.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: And then they transition into the first team struggling against
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the first team defense and it moved the ball period
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and failing to gain in even a single first down
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: the first rather after that first reception. They really weren't
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: gaining anything because John Cooper getting in the backfield constantly.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: And I wonder how many days you can string along
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: like that without having that's correct, I mean before you
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: get too late going into the season.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: That is correct. Well, as far as Jenn Wattall is concerned,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I believe. I believe Sean Payton. I think he's gonna
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: be fine. Uh. The way I watched Coach and d
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Maac describe it, and Tyler as it went down, and Scotty,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: it seemed to me to be to be exactly what
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: he said, some muscle tightness. You don't want to push it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a veteran, He's been around. He knows
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: what his body is like. He knows when to push
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: his body and when not to. So that doesn't surprise
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: me at all, and it doesn't bother me at all.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I believe Sean Payton. Uh. But but what I do
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: like is the Knicks getting in guys Bacon a little bit. Hey, listen,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: we we gotta we gotta put in the work here. Again,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: When I tell you that it's different than it used
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: to be, the time available on the field, Raj is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: very much regimented out. I mean it's scripted out right
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: between now and those part of the season on how
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: long they can or will be on the field and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: so on and so forth. So you there's there's no
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: time anymore for dilly dallying out here on the field.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: There's no time for running wrong roots or cutting you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: cutting roots short, right, there's no time for that. You've
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: got to you've got to get crisp and stay crisp.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have your off days. But I like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the fact that the quarterback is like, guys, we need
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to pull this back together. We need to focus, we
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: need to we need to get our butts in gear here.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And I think that's true leadership.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: It's funny because like in the team periods, but didn't
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: have a great day, like the pick that he threw
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: to Chris Abrams dream on the far sideline, as close
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: to the fans as you could possibly get. It was
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: like on the the forty plus forty yard line that
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: he threw that pick. It was it was telegraphed the hole.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I mean himself himself included, tell us himself included, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I that's that's the way it's gotta be. He's got
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: to he's got to hold himself accountable, and he's got
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to hold his guys accountable when they're losing. They're losing
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that day.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: That interception, it's very clearly, it is very clearly shown
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: to me that Chris Abrams Drain is the next guy
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: up in terms of your outside corners. Jade Baron, if
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: you guys were listening during the appetizer hour, I brought
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: back and stole from Brett stock Up stock down because well,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the NFL season, in terms of games, it starts today
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: with the Hall of Fame game. A great text message
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: came in a few minutes ago. He was like, the
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game is an abomination, like garrange football. Yeah,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I will be on my couch. Yeah you have to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: be watching the first two quarters. Yep, I'm right there
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: with you, brother. The one on one drills yesterday from
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Jade Baron an outside corner, and this is something that
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Sean has been very prickly about. They're like, he's outside corner,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: he's playing dime linebacker. He's getting some spots in ut
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: at nicol as well. Although they will play Ja Kwon mcmilli.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: He did. He did have another snipe yesterday about somebody
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: saying that Baron is going to be a safety.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Payton Sandford's been on it for weeks. He's like, I
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: just see him now. The reporting from Sanford hasn't been
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: they are playing him at in safety right the reporting
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: for Mike not reporting. The opinion for Mike for weeks
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: now has been I see Jade barn as a safety
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: in this league more so than an outside corner. Baron
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: was getting toasted yesterday.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: The one on.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Ones were really ugly for him. Yep, we counted six reps.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Five of them was getting beat by guys who probably
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: aren't even gonna make the roster this year. It's not
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: looking good for him on the outside. Can he play
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: in the middle, sure? Can he plays a really solid
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: like you're talking about an extra defense, you're.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Talking about dime guy. But for a first round again,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: let me go back to this, and I don't want
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to I don't want to dwell on it too much, Raj,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: but for a first round or to be a dime
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: guy and seeing the field, you know, in just certain situations,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I think is tough. I think that's that's It's not
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a miss yet by any means. We're not talking about
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a bus or amiss or anything like that. But man,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: first round pick should be contributing periods. End of story,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: especially in a Super Bowl window. They there's no doubt
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: about it. First round pick should be out there making plays.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: They should be out there getting a significant amount of snaps.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: And if they don't, and they aren't, and they're not
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: even listed on the depth chart, perhaps as a backup
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: at a corner, you're you're essentially a backup nickel guy.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's not a problem yet, but it's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: it's something to keep an eye on. And I know
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that Peyton again got snippy about it yesterday. That's his style.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind him getting snippy. I kind
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: of like it on occasion. But he did get snippy
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: or he made up you know, he made a sarcastic
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: remark about it. A bit of deflection there, just a bit.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: The other guy that we were talking about. And this
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: is not a this will not be an impact player
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: for the Broncos this year, but he shows up every
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: single training camp and he reels in a billion passes
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: and he did so yesterday during second team reps. And
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: the reason why he was getting second team reps is
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: because well everyone's getting moved out the depth chart because
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: of the off day for Courtland, because of the injury.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Early on in practice to waddle, Sam Ellinger and Michael
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Bandy found each other like five times yesterday. Michael Bandy
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I was talking with Troy Rank about this. He was like,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Bandy's gonna be on the practice squad at like forty
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: two years of age. He just probably he just shows
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: up in vacuums, passes in.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, very he very well could be. I've had
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a chance to watch Bandy a little bit so far.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: He's officially listed at five ten one days.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Is a short dude.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, if that, if that guy's
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: five to ten, then I'm I'm break, I'm six three,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I'm break. Kayane's I mean he he might be. I mean,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I guess if you if you put him up against
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the wall, you know, when you had a ruler above
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: his head, and you marked a chalk line on the wall,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: maybe and you got your tape measure up. Maybe, I guess.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: But optically he doesn't look like that. But you know what,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: he runs good roots. He's got terrific hands and he's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a speedy little guy.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: If you had to say it right now, quarterback to
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Monday night against Kansas.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Can we can we play the Sean Payton cut again? Please, Nelly,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: if you've got the Sean Payton cut on on the
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger day out here today or excuse me, yesterday.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: But again, he got a little bit defensive about that too,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: because look, if you're all right, somebody get you? What
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: got you?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: It might have been a bee that hurts. Oh god,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I get stung every.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Year, mane. Yeah, well, okay, man, I got you.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Nelly, let me hear Sean Payton on Sam Ellinger cut
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: eighteen would be awesome.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not sucking the poison out. I can promise you
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that that that hurt.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I get stung every year.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Dude, I haven't even seen a well, it wouldn't be
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: a bee, wouldn't be a honey bee. It would be
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: a wasp or something. But I didn't even see one.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: What it was you and not me.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: While you're dealing with that, just keep in mind that,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: by the way, the reporter that asked Sean Payton if
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: there is a quarterback battle was our very own Andy Lindall.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: And so he's the one that Sean got snippy with.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Coach Sam Elinger is stacked a couple of good days here.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what growth have you seen from him from last year?
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Well, it was comfort level with what we're doing offensively.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: The spaghetti sauce is the other stuff that that's one
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: of his superpowers that you know, he gets in and
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: out of some plays.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe he can he can move.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: I like how he's looked, you know, And and you
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: don't get to appreciate a quarterback like him until you're
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: out there and everyone's on the sideline and then the
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: ball moves.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Sometimes it's harder to appreciate that when you're scripting plays.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But you know, he's got a great pedigree.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: I know he likes it here and and I think
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: he's he's he's done a lot of good things.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's he's fitting right in.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: There.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: You're in his way up there.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: No, now we still have a rotation. There's been no
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: there's no official battle rotation.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It's too no, I got it. And I also read
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: where John A's playing safety? All right, what else we got?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, So that's that's Andy. Those back to back questions there,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: He's not really snippy dany. He's just sort of deflecting
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the you know the question, but no, we have a rotation.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Don't start count.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, still will you know Stilla will get some two's too.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: But I will say this when you watch Ellinger he
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: you correct me if I'm wrong, Raj, because in my opinion,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he looks more like and plays more like Bo Nicks
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: than Stidham does. Right, yes, And to get in get
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: out type of thing, right that the ability to get
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: out of the pocket. You know that? It so to me.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: What it tells me is that coach clearly likes what
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: he sees out of his quote third stringer right now.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And I've seen this guy play football live and in person.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I thought he was a good pro prospect when he
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: came out of Texas a sixth round draft pick. But look,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: he's older now, and he's been around and he's gotten
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: some pt but certainly he's a pretty heady quarterback. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me at all if they went that route,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: because honestly, they can save some money. Is that from
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Steve Salazar? Oh God, bless you, Steve, You're the man,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: God bless you. I needed that badly. What did you
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: get I got some d You got the d I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: got some deed. Someone delivers its regular clear, but it's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: gonna it's on his way. It's good stuff. Thank you, Steve.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Okay, go ahead. My snot rag is getting
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: worn out. But you see what I'm saying. Look, if
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you can no offense to to Jared Stidham, but if
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you can, if you can save a couple million bucks,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and you like the way this kid is playing. Now
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that's praise from Sean Payton. He might if somebody asked
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: him about Stidham's practices, he might say the same damn thing.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to put I don't want to get
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: too far ahead. But clearly that's going to be a
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: bit of a storyline that will watch the rest of
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the way.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I see a text coming in here, going to back
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: to the Jade baron conversation and we'll be joined by
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwald at nine o'clock today. We'll get into oh,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: by the way, coming up on the other side of
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the break. But Lance love you, thank you for texting,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: And he says, now you guys got it. Backward rookies
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: and second year players shouldn't be competing on a Super
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Bowl contender, especially when that no, no, no, we don't
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: have it wrong. Look at what Look at who two
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: of the biggest players on Seattle were last year on
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: that defense? Right, that is, for my money, either the
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: best or the second best defense in the NFL alongside
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: the Houston Texans, and then the Broncos are right there
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: in the top three.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Who are Seattle's defense was killed or two.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Of the best players on that defense Nicki min Em
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: and Warrri a rookie safety, right, a rookie defensive back
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: in a stacked defensive backfield in Seattle, and then Byron Murphy,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: a defensive tackle who is in his second year after
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: being a first round pick. So don't sit here and
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: tell me that first and second round draft selections aren't
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: playing massive roles on Super Bowl contenders, because it happened
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: First round picks should play significantly. End of story.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Oh by the ways, next, Oh by the way, on
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: mos Lombardi and Cane raj filling in for Kaner today
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: and tomorrow. Cane will be back six o'clock on Monday.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Vic out Mark Moser next to me today.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Guys are so lazy man, They're just so damn lazy.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: We will be joined by someone who is not lazy,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: that is Jeff Lakewald at nine o'clock now in the tent.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: He works All of our training camp coverage this year,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: which is powered by Ramos Law, will continue with the
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Training Camp Show d Max, Scottie Hastings coach Mike Sanford
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: as well as Tyler Plumbus will take you guys from
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: ten to two, and then the cool Down Show with
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Nate and Andy starts at two o'clock. Six o'clock Tonight,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football Hall of Fame Game kicks off our
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Westwood One coverage every single primetime game tonight on Altitude
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio right on.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: So oh, by the way, are stories that we want
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to get to a little bit that maybe haven't heard
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And we kind of pole period here. But
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off tonight in that Hall of Fame game,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: which you can hear right here on out to Tude
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: ninety two five. The Cordmvers are gonna start Carson Beck
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: at quarterback. And again I try to keep tabs around
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the league, and I try to, you know, read stories
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: from other reports, you know, other Jeff Lagwalls around the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: League and that sort of thing. But apparently apparently Beck
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: has looked pretty damn good for the Cards. Man. Apparently
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he's looked pretty pretty good.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Oh that's funny because, oh, by the way, have you
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: seen the practice clips from Arizona Cardinals training camp. It's
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: a complete disaster. Now, it's not you know, all Carson
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Beck throwing these uh these picks and these interceptions, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks are getting hit, players are going down to
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: the ground. Nobody, including Marvin Harrison Junior, can catch up.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: He can't catch a thing right now, can't do anything
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: like the There's like Keystone Cops at times number four overall,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: and this was Beck trying to throw a ball, actually
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: a perfect ball to Harrison. It gets dropped as well.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: The Cardinals are going to absolutely suck. They're gonna be
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: such a bad football team.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: This shit. I think you're probably right. I think Brissette is.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: But but from what can I think here, Brissett is
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be just a placeholder, without a doubt for for
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Carson Beck. That's my thought process, and I think maybe
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: that's their thought.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's a placeholder for Carson Beck. I
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: think it's a place Solder for whoever comes out time
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: career draft. Okay, okay, I think it's a place solder
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: for CJ. Carr, or for Arch Manning, or for Dante
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: more or for Julian Saying. I don't think any one
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: of those four guys, if you were to put them
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: on the roster, would not start in place of Carson Beck.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: At this point, right, Arizona's going to be a complete
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: dumpster fire, as is Miami. It's not good.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: By the way, did you see Stefan Dix has finally
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: found a home. He's going to the Washington Commanders to
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: play in that offense alongside Jayden Dames.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I did see that. I think, Look, I think the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: guy can still play football. I mean, you know, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: guess I was so surprised it took him that long
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: to find a job, you know what I mean. I
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: just thought that that was kind of weird that it
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: took him that long. But he's I'm sure he had
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: options and he could, you know, maybe pick and choose
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And by the way, for guys like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: him who are veteran wideouts, missing a few days of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: training camp that big of a deal, right, I mean,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: some of these guys like to take their time because
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: they don't want to be out here running to the
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: especially in a Washington camp where it's sweltering hot in
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: that kind of crap. They want to be running around
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: out there when they don't have to be running around.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: You know, let's get a week or two into camp
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and then we'll sign a deal and then, you know,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: then it becomes club med.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Tyler told this story. I can't remember if he was
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: playing in Washington or Seattle when this happened. And they
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: had a joint practice with the Patriots and Bill Belichicken.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: All the teams came together and they had this meeting
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: of Hey, Bill's gonna walk you guys through all of
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: the rules for this joint practice. And Bill's first thing
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: was a mandate if you fight. If we see any
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: iteration of a fight, that's it. You're gone. It is
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: a one strike rule. You're not even getting a warning.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: And he went the veterans on the team, first play fight,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: second play fight, and all these guys just walk off
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: and they get a full off day.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, smart stuff, that's the way to do it. That's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: how you get a rain out, right, I can get
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: your if you want to rain out I can get
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: your rain out right something like that. Uh. Oh, by
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the way, uh New York Mets rookie pitcher Jeffrey Yan.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: You know who this guy is.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: He's the former Rockies prospect.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: That is correct, and you remember him that I do remember.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: So what does he do? What does he do when
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: he strikes somebody out?
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: He jumps up in the air and does the split,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: does the splits? Awesome?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Well he did that. He struck out his first major
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: league batter. He's twenty nine year old left hander. First
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: battery faced in his major league debut in the Mets
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: six five win against Cleveland on a Wednesday night. H
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: if so, I'm gonna ask Kaner about this next week.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: But if if batters can throw their bat in the air, right,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: they can they can do all this all these history onics.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: When they hit it, then they hit a jack, they'll
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: get beamed.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying, what do you do to a
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: pitcher who, if he strikes you out, jumps in the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: air like Nadya komen each or Mary lou Retin or
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: dare I say, carry friggin strug and then does the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: splits and all this kind of crap. What do you
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: do to that guy.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Charge the mound, try and be Robin Ventura and hope
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: that it's not no longer thrown up.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Or that I was just the other day. I don't
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: forget what network he was on. It just that came
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: on where venture it charges the Mound and Nolan Ryan
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: absolutely like forty two, forty four, forty three. He had
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to have been in his forties. He was forty six
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: years old, was forty one. They beat the living crap
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: out of Robin Ventura. And Ventura was young, right because
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: he was still a white sock.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Then he hadn't even gone over to the Mets at
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: that point, just getting dad's strength walloped.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, dude, he comes out to the hill and listen,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan is that he was that old man Texan
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: strength kind of guy, right, gets him in a headlock
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: and then I mean, I for all you youngins out
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: there who never saw it or haven't seen it, google
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan and Robin Ventur. He gets him in a
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: headlock and he just starts he just starts feeding him
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: upper cut after the upper cut. It was awesome.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I'm so happy that we're talking about uh Mets adjacent
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: players and the fact that. You know, you let Nolan
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Ryan leave your organization.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was a hey, bro, that's that was honestly,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan was let go it. Figure before you're born, bro, Yeah,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I was barely breathing there at the time.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Or the only good thing Lady was already in college.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, you know, the only good.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Way to talk about the Mets this year is to
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: talk about a rookie pitcher who struck out a kid
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: and then did the splits. It's a three hundred and
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: sixty one million dollars payroll and they're essentially the Colorado Rockies.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: You think it's about the Rockies, it could be worse.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: You could pay the most money in baseball and also suck. Right,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: that's true, and at least the Rockies in middle of
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: the road.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: That's what the Mets are doing. Oh. By the way,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I saw Lane Kiffin and the LSU gear the other day.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: It kind of freaked me out. I Uh, this guy's
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: been around, man, and I think he's probably gonna have
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: success at LSU. He probably is. But I was reading
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the article about more money coming into the LSU Tiger
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: program and the president has had a big meeting with
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: top donors, and we're talking to quote first of it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: kind revenue generating proposal for athletics. I don't know, it
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: blows my mind. I don't know how creative you have
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: to be today to keep up with the Joneses in
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: major college athletics, especially major college football. But for God's sake,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: these people, if they if they had as much interest
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: in curing cancer as they do about raising money for
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: their football team, cancer, it might be licked by now.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's insane to me. Man.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Hey, we had an oh, by the way, yesterday that
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I brought up about the Akron Zips, and they are
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: the first script the first drive of an Akron game.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: They're hosting like an FCS team in their home opener,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: so it like it shouldn't kill you if you go
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: three and out because a fan chose some terrible plays.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: But we will be joined by Jeff Legwall to ESPN
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: on the other side of the break, and my first
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: question to you, Leggie, will be if you could script
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the first drive of the Broncos season. Get noodle in
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: on that. Leggy's next