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Royals extend Maikel Garcia & sign Lane Thomas, Jays extend Shapiro, Lil Boston offers? Teo trade soon? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Kratz.
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  Speaker 2: You and me had a good giggle right after the
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  Speaker 2: show yesterday. Do you remember what it was about?
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  Speaker 1: Is about me?
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  Speaker 2: No, no rare moment. It wasn't about you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh thank god?
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  Speaker 2: No, really you don't remember, Okay, I'll give you a hint.
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  Speaker 2: It involved Pete Alonzo's contract.
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  Speaker 3: He passed his physical, that's right, which is an Orioles thing. Like, look,
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  Speaker 3: people like, it's not just we laughed about it, but
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  Speaker 3: it was. It was Scott. You got to tell your
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  Speaker 3: jokes right when you hear wait, right when you think them,
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  Speaker 3: just interrupt us. Tell your jokes because you've had two
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  Speaker 3: of the last two days where you're like, I almost
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  Speaker 3: said that. I almost said that Pete's Pete passed his physical.
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  Speaker 3: It's a big thing with the Orioles, that is.
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  Speaker 1: It was who was the last guy that they didn't
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  Speaker 1: It was last year, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Historically it's been pictures. That's what we're That's what Scott.
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  Speaker 1: And he almost won a World Series. But that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he wasn't. He wasn't healthy enough.
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  Speaker 1: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: Right, He only pitched the entire season. Remember, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like they did it to Grant Balfour once does that
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  Speaker 2: ring a bell? Did they do it to him? I
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  Speaker 2: felt like they flunked him. I mean, they flunked so
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  Speaker 2: many pictures. And I'm sure there are even more that
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  Speaker 2: we didn't know about, but there were many publicly that
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  Speaker 2: they agreed to. Player flies there and they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: never mind, and now your value shot because we just
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  Speaker 2: told everybody we feel like you're damaged goods.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet there's another. But the part that we
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  Speaker 3: and we'll have to ask Hoffman later maybe next time
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  Speaker 3: it comes on, I bet they go back to him,
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  Speaker 3: was like, we'll still give you. We'll still get like
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  Speaker 3: we were going to give you fifty million, We'll give
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  Speaker 3: you forty two, even though we know after everything, after
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  Speaker 3: we know you're hurt. Yeah, I want to find I
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  Speaker 3: want to find tact.
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  Speaker 1: It might be their tactic.
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  Speaker 3: You never know, just just saying it.
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  Speaker 2: I would not put it past them based on previous
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  Speaker 2: ownership group where they're like, but here's still some money.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason why I bring that up is actually
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  Speaker 2: just got this story when I was at the winter meetings.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently there was one time where the team was run
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  Speaker 2: by the Angelus family. Before this, the Orioles signed a
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  Speaker 2: player I'm not going to say that player's name, and
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  Speaker 2: they wanted to trade him before spring training. He did
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  Speaker 2: not do anything wrong, he didn't say anything, he didn't
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  Speaker 2: do anything. Owner calls and says, hey, some of my
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  Speaker 2: friends said that he doesn't think he's going to be good.
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  Speaker 2: This is a true story. Wanted to trade the player
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  Speaker 2: before he even got to spring training. After they signed him.
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  Speaker 3: I was drinking up in the Hamptons with some of
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  Speaker 3: my some of my friends and trade the guy that
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  Speaker 3: I just signed.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I was on the h or you do have
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  Speaker 1: a name?
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  Speaker 2: I actually legit, don't remember the name, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I want to say the name, because then
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  Speaker 2: I'm outing the person who told it to me. But
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  Speaker 2: but to be continued, to be continued, let me see
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  Speaker 2: if I can get permission from that person to actually.
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  Speaker 1: Do nobody's gonna care after the fact, don't.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes people don't want to get into the industry and
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  Speaker 2: they don't want to roast.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're just tell me, Just tell me, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: tell everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk post show and then maybe to be
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  Speaker 2: continued on Monday. But we do have breaking news. The
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  Speaker 2: Royals are dropping some dough mikeel Garcia is signing a
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  Speaker 2: five year contract extension. Now the details are coming in
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  Speaker 2: as we speak. There is a club option for a
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  Speaker 2: sixth year. That's according to our FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have the money yet. Garcia is twenty five
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  Speaker 2: years old. He's a goal to club winner. He had
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  Speaker 2: one of the top wins above replacement numbers in baseball,
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  Speaker 2: which is one of the most valued numbers in the sport.
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  Speaker 2: We're tabulating what he does at the plate, what he
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  Speaker 2: does on the basis, what he does in the fields,
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  Speaker 2: and Todd Father he actually is one of the best
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  Speaker 2: third basemen in baseball that almost nobody knows about.
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  Speaker 1: You know, but no, I was just going to say
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  Speaker 1: that nobody knows about it. Two eighty six last night,
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  Speaker 1: three fifty one on base four forty nine slog. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: sixteen home run seventy four RBIs with twenty three bags.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually not that bad. Gold Glover first year All
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  Speaker 1: Star guy. Oh yeah, then nobody knows about this guy,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you listen, he plays Kansas City,
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  Speaker 1: he gets after it. They didn't make the playoffs, which
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  Speaker 1: was unfortunate, and I think that's what people worry about
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  Speaker 1: more than sometimes individual stats and how guys are doing.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm a Royals fan out didn't make it again,
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  Speaker 1: of course you don't go back and be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: m you know, mckel had had a really good year.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I like this. I like this pickup. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's an exceptional ball player. I think he goes
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  Speaker 1: about his business the right way. I think he's a leader.
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  Speaker 1: And I think they did this cratzy because they think
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  Speaker 1: this guy is important to the team and he can
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  Speaker 1: bring that culture back to as well. So I like it.
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  Speaker 1: If you feel like somebody needs to be on this
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  Speaker 1: team and you want him there for a little longer,
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  Speaker 1: talk to the guy and make something happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to look up my Todd Fraser stats.
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  Speaker 3: Another third baseman didn't get the gold glove. They never
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  Speaker 3: let you have the goal glove. But you know he's
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  Speaker 3: in his age twenty five season. You were twenty five
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  Speaker 3: when you got called up. Yeah, I think I was like,
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  Speaker 3: So it's fun to always look at that kind of
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  Speaker 3: stuff because we know where your career ended up. We
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  Speaker 3: know how many All Star Games you made. Home run
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  Speaker 3: Derby's all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And you say, obviously, we don't know what the numbers
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  Speaker 3: are that he's getting, but you look at what he did,
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  Speaker 3: and this is why I have a tough time believing
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  Speaker 3: that the we'll get to another sign that the Royals
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  Speaker 3: made also but believing that the Royals would really be
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  Speaker 3: in on taoscar Hernandez. I know they went after Santander
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  Speaker 3: hard and made a really nice offer last year, but
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  Speaker 3: he ultimately had already agreed with the Blue Jays. So
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  Speaker 3: this is the type of player that the Royals need
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  Speaker 3: to build around, or the types of players that they
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  Speaker 3: need to fill their roster out with. Casey is a
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  Speaker 3: monstrous field. It's a huge outfield, so their outfitters need
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  Speaker 3: to be athletic. They need to be able to get
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  Speaker 3: after it. And part of that is you need corner
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  Speaker 3: guys who can handle that position in a sense of
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  Speaker 3: you let a ball get down the line. In KC,
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  Speaker 3: it's a little bit different. Guys are scoring on a
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  Speaker 3: ball down the line and left guys are scoring from
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  Speaker 3: first because it's bigger, and you need a really good
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  Speaker 3: left fielder to be able to handle that. So you
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  Speaker 3: also need a really good third baseman. And I think
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  Speaker 3: they see the value in it. But man, you delve
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  Speaker 3: into after this contract, after this extension came out, I
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  Speaker 3: started looking at some of his numbers. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is a dude that's on an upward trend. Yeah, Kansas City,
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  Speaker 3: you're afraid. As a fan, You're like, was this like
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  Speaker 3: a one year, one year thing? I tend to agree.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's not. I just think it's a it's
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  Speaker 3: somebody that's kind of a jumping off point in his career.
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  Speaker 3: He's twenty five, he's gonna play next year is age
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  Speaker 3: twenty sixth season, And the fact that he made these
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  Speaker 3: jumps with his batting average, he made the jump with
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  Speaker 3: his stolen bases went up, I mean not up. His
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  Speaker 3: stolen bases have stayed pretty consistent. Sorry, they went down
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  Speaker 3: because in twenty four you thirty seven bags. But the
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  Speaker 3: biggest thing for me is his walk rate went through
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  Speaker 3: the roof with his strikeout rate going down. You know,
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  Speaker 3: is that some of Jonathan India, you know, rubbing off
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  Speaker 3: on him being on that roster a little bit? Is
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  Speaker 3: that the fact that he went from age twenty four
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  Speaker 3: season to twenty five, when Todd was making a jump
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  Speaker 3: from Double Chattanooga to Louisville, Kentucky. Like, that's the kind
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  Speaker 3: of stuff I like seeing this and knowing the Royals,
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  Speaker 3: it's probably a really nice team friendly deal. But for MIKEL. Garcia,
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  Speaker 3: it is a lot of cashish locked in through his
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  Speaker 3: age possibly age thirty one season. If that six year
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  Speaker 3: gets picked up.
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  Speaker 2: His wins above replacement number this year from Fangrafts was
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  Speaker 2: five point six. That was top fifteen among position players
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  Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, top fifteen overall number. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: mean he runs baseball. I gotta look, he gets caught
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  Speaker 2: at his stolen base percentage is not great from what
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  Speaker 2: I remember. Kratz, maybe you have it in front of
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  Speaker 2: you quicker, because I'm lost this year populated.
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  Speaker 3: Just this year, he was caught nine times twenty three bags,
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  Speaker 3: but it was caught nine times. Last year it was
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  Speaker 3: thirty seven bags, only caught twice. The Royals do, and
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  Speaker 3: the Royals do an incredible job. Rusty Konz has set
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  Speaker 3: this precedent back since I was there in fourteen that
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  Speaker 3: and they've gone through some transitions, so you know what
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  Speaker 3: happened there? Who knows the dude was on base? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out how much more he was
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  Speaker 3: on base. He was on base almost at a one
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  Speaker 3: hundred extra clip, like, he had a two to eighty
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  Speaker 3: one on base percentage this year. This past year it
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  Speaker 3: was three fifty one, So he was on base more,
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  Speaker 3: got caught stealing more. So obviously they want to clean
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  Speaker 3: that up. But you're talking about a dude that was
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  Speaker 3: almost a forty stolen base guy and got caught twice
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  Speaker 3: in twenty four So yeah, you know he's got he's
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  Speaker 3: got to increase his efficiency out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but also he makes contact. He has elite exit
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  Speaker 2: velocity numbers. Two years ago, I remember because there was
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  Speaker 2: a good article about how it was weird. He had
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  Speaker 2: great hard hit percentage, right, which is how much you're
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  Speaker 2: making contact with the ball ninety five miles an hour
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  Speaker 2: off the b are better, But then his barrel percentage
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  Speaker 2: wasn't good. And you guys can probably speak better to
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  Speaker 2: the difference there and how one is so far off
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  Speaker 2: from the other. But the point is there were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the stats that teams love these days that
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  Speaker 2: are indicators that there's more right the stats in terms
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  Speaker 2: of expected and indicated numbers. A couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 2: we're painting a picture of a player who should be
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  Speaker 2: even better, and then we saw a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: come to fruition this past season. So I think the
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: Royals say, this is real, Let's drop some money on him.
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  Speaker 2: Let's eat up basically all of his prime years, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what you're going to get. I mean, in Major
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  Speaker 2: League Baseball these days, the prime years are on average
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  Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty one range. We're not talking about
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber here, but on average, that's when you see
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  Speaker 2: a lot of players at their best. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: eat up all of those years right now with MIKEL. Garcia,
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  Speaker 2: and they might have one of the top left sides
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  Speaker 2: of the infield and all of baseball. Todd Father, you
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  Speaker 2: got Bobby Wood Junior and MIKEL. Garcia locked up for
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  Speaker 2: the long term. That's what you're supposed to be doing.
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  Speaker 2: You're supposed to get these guys on quote team friendly
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  Speaker 2: deals that you can keep them.
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  Speaker 1: And they should be very happy. They should be very
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  Speaker 1: happy with this with Junior, should be excited about this,
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  Speaker 1: and the Royals should be. I mean, if you're a
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  Speaker 1: fan right now, hey, listen, it's not the sexiest name,
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  Speaker 1: but this dude is really good and he plays the
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  Speaker 1: game the right way. So another plus for the Royals.
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  Speaker 1: I know they had that big offseason last year getting
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: guys in and out didn't work out, but again, this
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  Speaker 1: is a plus. It doesn't mean you pick somebody up,
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  Speaker 1: but you have a home stay here with one of
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  Speaker 1: these guys, and it's a really, really good infield. You
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  Speaker 1: got a Gold Glover and you've got one of the
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  Speaker 1: best players in baseball. That's pretty sweet.
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  Speaker 2: And they did add They also added Lane Thomas in
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  Speaker 2: the last twelve hours. Krat's about one year, five million.
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  Speaker 2: It is one year, not about one year, but it's
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  Speaker 2: about five million bucks one year. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: get made fun of today, or I'm at least going
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  Speaker 2: to play some defense. One year and five million bucks
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  Speaker 2: for Lane Thomas to jump into the outfield. It seems
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  Speaker 2: like Krats are going to spend in this kind of
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  Speaker 2: rains to try and patch up what has become a
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  Speaker 2: huge hole for them. Right they need to show up
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  Speaker 2: the outfield. Lane Thomas has had his moments. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like he was a hot commodity with the Nats and
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  Speaker 2: moves over to Cleveland had one of the biggest swings
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  Speaker 2: in their franchise history. But overall, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: a pretty bad year for him this past season. Again, though,
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  Speaker 2: a guy that teams like and a guy that teams
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  Speaker 2: can playtuon.
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  Speaker 3: What can he what can he mimic that he was
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  Speaker 3: doing in Washington if you're looking at if you're looking
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  Speaker 3: at a guy who was a big I mean one
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  Speaker 3: of the guys who even in twenty I think it
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  Speaker 3: was twenty three, Yeah, twenty three, when he was twenty
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  Speaker 3: eight homers. He had an ops plus of one point fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: Like I thought he was going to get traded that year.
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  Speaker 3: He was one of the biggest right handed commodities because
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  Speaker 3: he was smashing left handers and he was getting a
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  Speaker 3: lot of he was getting a lot of burn out there,
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  Speaker 3: and you you thought he would turn it around or
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  Speaker 3: you thought he would get traded in the offseason. He didn't.
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  Speaker 3: He's had a decent start to the twenty four season,
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  Speaker 3: but ever since he's gone to Cleveland, it has not
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  Speaker 3: been good dealt with injuries. He started out super slow,
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  Speaker 3: like it was a bad It was a bad look
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  Speaker 3: early for Cleveland in twenty four, but then he had
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  Speaker 3: the huge home or the Grand Slam in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Last year. He just never got going, and so people
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  Speaker 3: are going to look at it. Oh, what why are
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  Speaker 3: the Royals giving the guy who had a negative point
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  Speaker 3: six war, which we just talked about with mikel Garcia,
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  Speaker 3: Why they give him five million dollars. This guy shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: even be a big leaguer. Lane Thomas brings something that
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  Speaker 3: a lot of teams really want, but they never go
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  Speaker 3: after quality at bats and a guy who knows how
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  Speaker 3: to come off the bench and has a certain skill set,
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  Speaker 3: and if they use it correctly, you're able to get
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  Speaker 3: the most value out of that position. Maybe not necessarily,
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  Speaker 3: Lane Thomas. Lane Thomas isn't going to give you. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going in the season saying we
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  Speaker 3: need one hundred and sixty two games. We need you
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  Speaker 3: to hit twenty what I say again, twenty eight homers
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  Speaker 3: that like I don't think that's what they're expecting, especially
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  Speaker 3: in Kaufman. I think they're looking for a guy that's
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  Speaker 3: gonna you know what you're gonna get. They're facing lefties.
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  Speaker 3: He's gonna play every day against the lefty, and he
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  Speaker 3: can play all three positions in the outfield in a
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  Speaker 3: huge outfield, and he can still run.
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  Speaker 2: And in fairness, he never got going because he didn't
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  Speaker 2: really have much of a chance to get going. He
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  Speaker 2: had about a quarters worth of play appearances. So I
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  Speaker 2: know you. I heard you ask me this. That's when
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  Speaker 2: I was throwing on clothes and getting back into the studio.
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  Speaker 2: You asked a question right before the show started. I
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  Speaker 2: heard you. Guy, just couldn't answer because my mic was muted.
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  Speaker 2: But you were like, what happened to Lane last year? Well,
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  Speaker 2: he had two cases of right foot planter fasciitis and
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: a right wrist bruce, and that's why he only had
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five AB's.
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  Speaker 3: I will, I will, I will go to my grave
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  Speaker 3: saying that I don't wish on my worst to me
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  Speaker 3: plantar fasci itis. I had planner fascias when I was
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  Speaker 3: in Kansas City. Fortunately I ran down the first base
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  Speaker 3: and it blew out. So that's the best, Like it
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  Speaker 3: released right, or if you just sit there and you
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  Speaker 3: live with plant fasciitis, I wouldn't. I wouldn't even wish
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  Speaker 3: that on Utah. Yours like popped when you ran yep,
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  Speaker 3: and it felt better in the moment, it hurt like crazy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: day and a half later completely gone. Never had it again.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a doctor, but that's incredible. And he had
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  Speaker 3: the I think Lane had the I thought he had
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  Speaker 3: an ankle issue too. I had turf and you had
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  Speaker 3: it both. I had to put a metal metal little shiit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, you had a shank in your miserable.
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  Speaker 3: That's Nobody needs foot, foot or hand injuries.
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  Speaker 1: No, Dusty Banker always says, take care of your feet
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  Speaker 1: and hands.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So if that's better for Lane, then he's going to
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: be in a better spot. And the last thing for
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: the Royals is if they're going to trade away any
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  Speaker 2: of their pitching to try and get one more outfielder.
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  Speaker 2: It sounded like from Ken Rosenthal's notes column at some
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  Speaker 2: point he's written so many of them they were going
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  Speaker 2: to sign one trade for another. I think they could
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  Speaker 2: end up just signing two, and I think Royals fans
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  Speaker 2: hope for that because I think you need that advantage
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  Speaker 2: of having as much pitching death as possible. Look at
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  Speaker 2: how good Cole Reagan's was two years ago, and then
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  Speaker 2: they just didn't get a lot of Cole Reagans this
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  Speaker 2: past season because of injury. So I would hold on
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: all of those guys, but we'll see what happens. We'll
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: do more Royals talking popcorner. Let's sizzle. Let's get to news.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: So we'll start with Christopher Morrell signing up with the
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Miami Marlins one year contract. This, according to Ken, Rosenthal
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: expected to mostly play first base, and Ken said the
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: hope is that the Marlins hitting coach Pedro Guerrero will
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: unlock Morell and also gave credit to Mike de Portees
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: for the first on reporting that story. Okay, I mean,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I'm expecting more from the Marlins, but sure you want
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: to fill it up with some lottery tickets too, and
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: some depth and see if Kristopher Morel can finally corral
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: the skill set. Go for it, Todd, for I feel
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: like we talked about him somewhat recently when he was
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: cut loose, and you look at Tampa Bay really losing
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: a trade. Here is sak Paratus is an all star bat.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: And I know there were other parts to that trade,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: but Christopher Morrell has been a big bust in the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: big leagues so far for a guy that's some front
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: offices love. This is the tale of a guy who
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: does have those sexy stat cast stats and some of
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the metrics that front offices fall in love with, and
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I equated to the William o'panias back in the day.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: It's BP power, but it hasn't converted and he's not
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: a good defender. So he needs to hit for serious
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: pop and try to get on base a little bit
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: to be a big league player. We'll see if the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Marlins can find that. If it doesn't work for him
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: this year, he could be out of the game.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: C C.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Pedro for sure to step it up a little bit. No, listen,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: he just at one. At what point do you look
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: as a baseball player as ahead or you look yourself? Man,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: this just isn't working. So I think Pedro Garrera knows
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. I think I think he's got a
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: test in front of him. Maybe revamp the swing, cratsy,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: maybe no more leg kick, Maybe see a couple pitches
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: here and there, don't be afraid to look at a
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: pitch and you know, maybe it's a ball. But he
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: had a lot of strikeouts. Understandably he strike out or
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you know, pop out kind of guy. But I think
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: he should revamp his whole swing and maybe change something
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: go to a two strike approach or fix something. Make
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: sure your head because my biggest thing. The more the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: higher he got with the leg kick, your eyes move
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and your head moves, and I think the more your
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: eyes move, the more you're gonna swing and miss their
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: foul balls off that you're like, oh man, how did
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I miss that? And there was a lot of that.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So for him, you know, maybe it's time to revamp
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: your whole swing and hopefully, you know, resurrect your career
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: moving forward.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I'm always about giving guys like another opportunity. Yes, like
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I obviously bounced around a long time, you know, played
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: at a completely media yorkre level. But you're always trying
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to change things. You're always trying to fix little things.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: To me, when you sign a guy like this, yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: they're hoping he could hit twenty plus pumps. But when
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I hear he's going to play first base, I had
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: to look on Baseball Reference. They have him listed as
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: an outfielder d H third baseman, and so I look
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: down at the defense part and it says zero games
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: played at first base. Don't hamstring your team at a
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: position that is trivialized by a lot of the industry
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: of teams that don't win, of teams that look at
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: the first base position as yeah, whatever, ah, we got
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: a third baseman. We're gonna pick up Todd Frazier and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: he's gonna play first It's nothing against Christopher Morel, not
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: saying he's not athletic enough to learn it. It is
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: a big time position. It's a big time position on
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: a young team. You don't have a lot of veteran
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: infielders that need that help over at first base. And
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: then you just say, oh, we got Christopher Morell because
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the Borbino's not available, because Josh Bell isn't gonna sign
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: with us, Like like you you enter those names of
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: the guys who have played first base, and it's a
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: harder position than just hey, you know what, he's had
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: twenty plus homers in seasons. I know he strikes out
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Pedro Guerrero, fix him go play first base for us,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Like that's that's tough. And I don't want to see
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the momentum that the Marlins made this season based on
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: their pitching staff, based on their defense, take a backslide
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: because they're like, well, we'd like to have some offense
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: for on the cheap we'll just throw them at first.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Interesting what's next? What's next for the Marlins? They're apparently
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: pirates light this offseason. I don't think they're gonna play
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: ball for a player that's worth, you know, one hundred
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: million dollars in guaranteed money. But it's like they are
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: going to get involved and crafts. We can make fun
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: of them all we want. I do actually think they'll
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: spend a little money because it's the same story as
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the A's last year. You have to so that the
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: league just doesn't get pummeled with more grievances that they
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: have to uncork when they get to the labor agreement
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: a year from now. So in all seriousness, I do
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: think they'll spend a little bit of money, not a lot,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: but a little bit of money. And I do still
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: think they might trade one of their young starters, turn
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: that into a position player, and then sign a starter
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to backfill it in the rotation.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, they think they think they have the answers
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: in the pitching staff because they have good pictures, but
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: they also think, you know, if they call all the
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: pitches from the bench, you know, I saw the change
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: in the last four weeks when they were calling the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: pitches from the bench, so we don't really need we
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: don't really need the best pictures, So I would agree
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: with you. I think they trade from that excess in
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: their mind, like, oh, call someone up that's also going
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: to give us value in there. I think as a Marlins,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: when you have a starting rotation like you do, you
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: can't be afraid of keeping all of them and dipping
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: into the two year To me for the Marlins, if
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: they dip into the two year market for a hitter,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: that could be impactful. I think that's when they start
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: making changes. They're in a tough NL East, but the
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: reason that they did as well as they did was
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: because of that starting pitching. I'm afraid that some of
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: the recent firings in the last few years in the
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Marlins system that was involved with the development of all
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: these young pitchers might come back to bite them. But
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: you know that's time will tell. Time will tell, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's time for the Marlins to strike
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: or tell Sandy al Contre, hey, you know what, thanks
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: for everything, and there's gonna be a lot of value.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: But that might not happen until, like Freddy Pearl is
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: either taken off the market or he's traded, you know.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I think that's the kind of thing where I would
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I would bet on the upside of Sandy al Contra
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: if I'm a team, because of his controllability and his
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: and his history of being a durable dude who wants
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the ball for nine innings thirty two times a year.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, al Contera, it's time to move
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: on in my opinion, not not I mean him trade
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: for sure, but I think that would be their next move.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't see them. I don't
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: see them spending I honestly don't see them spending any
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: more money, if you want the truth.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: And four in there, a Contra, a Contra and Uri
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Perez were the guys before. Now I think Edward cabreroed
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Edward Cabrera is kind of emerged as the guy that like, oh,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: guys didn't really know about because they had Yuri, and
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: then they you have Meyer that's coming up to or
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: not coming up, but solidifying himself. I just think there
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: is an opportunity for the Marlins to continue that upward
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: trend and whatever moves they make, I hope that's what
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: they're doing. And not saying, hey, we overachieved last year,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: we're just going to stay status quo. I think it's
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: time to slowly continue to move.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Man Meyer hasn't worked out at all for the most
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: part for them, and from what I've read, Uri Perez
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: is the only untouchable like Edward Cabre. Edward Cabrera could
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: be dealt al Contra. I think they want to deal.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I think the hold back there is the value the
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Marlins want to valume as a number one. He showed
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: flashes of that, but not the full season, and it
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: was the first full season coming off the surgery. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: don't know. I think they might play hardball and hold
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: on to al Contra because I think they might match
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the value they're looking for. With Edward Cabrera. There's more
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: years of control. It's easier to price him in the
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: marketplace than it is for all contract. But we'll see,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: we'll see. Let's get to Michael Garcia. We're going back
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to him. Why because we got money five years, fifty
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: seven and a half million dollars. There's a club option
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and escalators in the deal, so it could max out
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: at six years eighty five million dollars. I don't have
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a lot to say about this. I mean, this is
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: how these deals generally look like, good job pay. If
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: this guy keeps doing what he did this past season,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: tod fother, he's a steal. I mean, if he's a
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: he was almost a six win player, if he's a
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: five win player, depending on how you value wins. I mean,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: most front offices look at a win between at least
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: five and ten million bucks. A lot of times in
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the public it's looked at as ten million bucks. Obviously
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: there's not fifty million dollar players, but it's showing the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: value that that player brings. I mean, he can easily
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: pay for this contract in the first couple of seasons.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: This involves arbitration, years, all kinds of stuff there. That's
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: why the general public that doesn't pay at tenime baseball
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: will look at a contract like this be like what
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that's it. That's because you're limited on how much you
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: can make until you hit free agency, and that's factored
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: into these extensions.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a great deal. I think it's
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a great deal for both sides.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Just hope that this guy just keeps on doing what
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: he's doing and doesn't worry about anything else. Stays humble
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: like he has and just stay under the radar. Everybody's
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: going to know who you are now, but just keep
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: doing you get the knocks that you have, make the plays,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and help your team out. Nothing else need. He has
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: no more worries in the world. Just play the game
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: that you know how to play.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Get your first contract. None of it's guaranteed. Before before
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: this season, he was we talked about War. He was
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: a three point eight war player. Obviously, he's always had
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: the defense. That's something that never slumps. So even if
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: he has an offensive slump of a season or this
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: was just his one outlier, which I don't believe it is,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: because when you reduce your walk when you reduce your
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: strikeout rate and increase your walk rate in the same season,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: like that is a that is a sure fire definition
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: of a guy that has figured figuring it out and
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: is going to continue to improve. But to me, you're
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: you're locking in. You're locking in essentially a contract for
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: a guy who was a over a five win player,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: and that contract is really only what Jake Cronin were signed.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: You know, I was trying to look at like other
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: contracts that were out there, and he's playing what I
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: think is the second premium position. I think third base.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: That's why you see so many Platinum Glove winners at
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: third base because the value of the plays that are
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: made there, to me are yes they're ground balls, yes
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: they're balls down the line, but you're taking away doubles
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: when you make those plays, especially in Kaufman.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Let's do some digging, ready for some weeds?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Mmmm?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Hey, what's the deal? Are the Dodgers really shopping to
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Oscar Hernandez. Katie Wu is new on the Dodgers beat,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and she's also just becoming an insider in the sport right,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: working with Ken Rosenthal on notes, columns and stories like this.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, her and people like Will Samon really emerging
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: with great insight. And she said the Dodgers continue to
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: quote kick the tigers, Tigers kick the tires on trading
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: to Oscar Hernandez, and Andrew Friedman did not rule out
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the possibility of adding another free agent after signing Edwin Diaz.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, that second part feels quite obvious. But she
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: alludes to the quote from Brandon Gomes on Monday at
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the Winter meetings where we were saying trading to Oscar
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Hernandez quote doesn't feel likely. She said, the Royals have
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: covered in an offense first outfielder and have interest in Tao.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: According to a league source, Kratz, you can kind of
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: bring back what you were saying earlier as somebody who
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: played for the Royals.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, offensively, he's perfect. Defensively, if I'm Kansas City
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and I want a winning team on the field, he's
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: mostly dhing for me. And do they want that spot
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: for Salva a little bit too? How is this all
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: going to shape up? Maybe they just say, Kratz, you
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: know what, screw it, we need that kind of offense.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: That kind of right handed pop is not really available
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: right now. And that kind of call him glue guy,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, super likable guy in the clubhouse. You wouldn't
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: think he's available. He's available because the Dodgers have show, Hey,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Joey's going to clog up the DH spot for a
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: long time, as he should. So it just leads to
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: a roster crunch and the Dodgers might have to trade
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: someone away that makes them significantly better on offense, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: if they can fill that or significantly better on defense,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and they can fill that on offense. I do think
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: it could happen. I mean, you're getting enough for reports
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: out here that I feel like it's real. Do you
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: think the Royals could be a legit option if they
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: give him a lot of DH time.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't, just like any team that's locking
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: somebody up at DH. Just we're talking about Kyle Schwarber
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: recently signing the fact that the Dodgers right now don't
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: need flexibility and so it's fine, that's show. Hey is
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: your DH like you're talking about two elite dhs. If
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: you bring Tao in, obviously it's gonna cost you. It's
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: gonna cost you a decent amount. It might be one
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: of your pitchers or whatever the Dodgers are looking for.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: To me, it's it's it doesn't scream a Royals move.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Tayo had five hundred and forty six played appearances last
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: year and walked twenty six times. The Royals don't walk
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: a lot, and that's probably part of the issue of
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: you know, they don't have a lot of power, so
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: teams just kind of go after them. But he struck
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: out one hundred and thirty four times, like he would
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: automatically become the largest strikeout or the highest strike out
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: number for this team. I don't see it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: If he was like elite defense and that's those strikeouts,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: they could handle it. I just don't see where you
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: put him in left field because I assume Caags Jack
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Haglion is still going to be in right field. And
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: maybe you might mix in DH between Caags if you
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: get another athletic outfielder oh Lane Thomas Okay and then
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Vinnie Pasquentino get him off his feet, he DHS. When
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Salvi goes to first base, he won't play as much
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: first base anymore because Felix for Mean's gone, but like
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Salvi's also in there DH, and so you kind of
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: have that DH platooner. I just don't see it. I
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: heard it. I heard what they're saying. I don't think
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: his twenty five home runs that he had this year,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: thirty three the year before really fits into what the
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Royals are going after. And I know people say, well
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: they went and got Jorge Solaire, sorry to Tayo, but
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Jorge Silaire and Tao are different power guys. I just
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: so I don't see it based on what the Royals
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: have done recently or in the past decade, fifteen years even.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: And i'd for me. By the way, Todd Father has
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: thrown that out there for the troll.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Always say Felix because.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: It's one of those where you like, you know of
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Felix and then you just throw his name out there.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: For me, that's what I'm here for. I'm that annoying
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: stack guy.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: It's like Tony really back in the day on PTI.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: But anyway, Todd Father, sorry, c Intera, and.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I'll be quick. I just think the Dodgers have so
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: many guys that they're like, let me just throw this
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: out there about taoscar Hernandez and see, you know, if
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: we can get some feelers and maybe something can happen
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: because they are they are the team right now that
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: picks up anybody and guys go there. And I think
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that's truly amazing for them. I think that's unbelievable. Dave
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Roberts got to be just loving Christmas every year these
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: past couple of years. He's been going just knowing another
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: gift for my team. So yeah, I don't know. I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's true. I just think they might
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: be something and putting a feeler out there to see
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: maybe they can catch, you know, a big fish, you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden like, oh, all right, well
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: this did work, so we'll see what happens. I love
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Teoscar Hernandez. I mean, he's a playoff guy. He steps
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: up to the plate all the time. Yeah, we talk
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: about defense, but we'll gets you to the big leagues
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: hitting and that's all he does.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And does he hit enough to be a full time DH?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I think so, especially for certain teams. No, Kratz. See
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the thing is, I think that's where he has to
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: transition pretty quickly. I think already next year you should
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: be looking at fifty percent of his days in the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: outfield at most. I don't want to put him in
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Jordan Alvarez status, but the Astros did recently bring up
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: how their plan is to primarily DH him. They had
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: been toying with a little outfield the past couple of seasons.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: This past season he was hurt a ton, and I
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: think they just want to let him do what he does.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: We know that Tao is not you were done. But
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: there are some teams that could use this. How about Pittsburgh.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously there's teams that could use it. Not everybody
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: has a I think he's a career one nineteen ops plus,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: so yes, he's got some career one thirty five ops
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: seasons and then last year it was it was uh
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: one O three. I think it was his ops last year. Like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, Could he DH? Yes? He could?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Are you asking me is he the DH for a
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: World Series contending team? I think the Royals have made
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: moves recently, and they continue to make moves to push
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: towards their new stadium, obviously, but also pushed towards wanting
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: to get back to the World Series. They have a
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: pitching staff that is really good, but they're brought into Kaufman.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: They're brought into Kansas City to be able to do
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: what they do with a defense behind them. And you
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: get extra value out of guys like a Seth Lugo,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: like a Michael Waka. Obviously Cole Reagan's when he's on
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: he doesn't need any defense. I mean, you're talking about
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: a guy that almost had one hundred strikeouts in sixty
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: or seventy innings. So there's different ways of doing it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I just I don't know that Taoscar. Yes, the Dodgers
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: could eat if the Dodgers eat ten million a year
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: of his contract, then you're talking, Okay, we're paying Taoscar
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: ten million a year to be our DH more palatable.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: But I don't know that he's not the upper He
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be an upper tier DH. And he could go
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: out this year and have a ridiculous season because he's
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: shown that he has that ability. Just last year was
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: a tough year to put that out there, and they
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: just signed him to the contract. Last year we were
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: talking about him being a serviceable outfielder. I don't think
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: his defense. I think he could still get another year
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: to maybe two years out of his defense in this count.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's worth what half, if not a third
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: of what you're talking to out with the Kyle Schwarber contract.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Shorber's only a DH. He's not Shorber. But Shoreber's signed
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: up for one fifty contract. Is not even half that. No,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I know he's not Shoorber. My point is I started
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to like the idea the more I said it. There's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: not right handed hitting outfield pop slash DH pop out.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: There not a lot of it right on the free
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: agent market, and it's super expensive the team. I keep
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: going back to is a club like Pittsburgh. I believe
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh will add and impact bat. Do I believe they
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: will be able to add that bat from free agency?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Probably not. They're going to have to significantly overpay to
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: talk someone into that situation. Given what they've done, you
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: have to trade for a player like that. I could
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: see them trading for someone like that. They should be
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: in the running for people like this. Maybe you think
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I'm off, but they need so much on offense. They
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: need everything. They need contact, they need power, they need
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: walks like anybody that is an above average offensive player
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: could immediately be their best hitter. That's how much of
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: a difference it could make. So if they have the
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: money to spend. They clearly threw out one hundred and
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: twenty million dollars. This is half that to get Tay.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: You might be able to get him in trade for
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: somebody else too. Pittsburgh has prospects. Their farm system is
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: definitely top ten, if not close to top five, top
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: ten to be fair, I think this could be a
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: spot for them, that's all.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I agree, And that would be a massive There's there's
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: only a few teams out there that Tay Oscar Hernandez
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: would be a massive upgrade. I went to a game
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: in April. Emmanuel Valdez was hitting fourth for the Pirates.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Like when you start your season in April and you
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: don't have a clear, cleanup hitter, you don't have a
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: clear bat in that spot in the order, Like, yeah,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: he'd be a massive upgrade. I would love to see this,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: But can they afford to get rid of prospect? And again,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know where the Dodgers, the Dodgers would want.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I know you're you're talking about eating a lot of
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of money, like I said before, from a
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: contract that was just signed. It's not like there's a
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: five year deal and now we're in year three of
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: his down of his decline. They signed it three year
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: deal last year. It was it three or four years.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry I blanked right there, but talking yep, Okay,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: it was it was the first year where he had
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: the down year here and I trust that he bounces back. Okay,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a three year deal. I think
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: it's twenty two a year or something like that. I
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: just I like Tayo as a player, But I think
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: it would depend on how much money they're looking to
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: eat and where it's going. But if they go after
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker, then I see I see no spot for Tayo,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: especially because Jeremy Meyer in our chat he brought up
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: a good point. Is Andy Pahes the playoff Andy Pajes
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: or is he the regular season Andy Pajes, Because if
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: you're losing some offense, like you need more offense out
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: of the outfield because you had any combination of Confordo,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Pajes and Tao, and now you get rid of Taeo,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: you'll probably get rid of Teyo to put up Bellinger.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I don't both think Bellinger's coming back there or you're
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: putting a Tucker in there. I just there's questions there.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: But they're questions as far as like are the Dodgers
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: going to repeat or not, not like ooh if they
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: don't figure this out, but Dodgers aren't going to make
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. No, that's not what we're saying.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Three years sixty six with deferrals. Net present value of
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: that deal when it was signed was three years about
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: fifty eight million bucks. So you're looking at less than
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: twenty million year on net present value for a player
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: like that, and now it's just two years left in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the contract, he said, And he told us on our
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: show that he took less money to sign with the Dodgers,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: so I'm sure he'd be a little pissed. He's probably
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: not pleased seeing his name pop up in what I
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: think are legit trade rumors. But just throwing it out there,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: bet MGM futures. We're looking at the braves today for
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the NL pennant ten to one odds for ATL were
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: feeling frisky with this number, Todd Father. They picked up
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: a couple pieces yesterday. I mean, I really loved the
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Bullpen ad, but even the Mike yeasad too, to give
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: them a little more depth and flexibility with the roster.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Now it's Robert Suarez and Rycelgalacias at the back end.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get a full healthy season, hopefully from Ronald
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Acuna junior. And they were missing most of their starting rotation.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: What do you guys, what do you guys coming up
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: with over there? It looks like you're up to no good.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I look out of brothers. I get angry.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: You guys are extra far away from each other today.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Oh well, Kratz is also sitting in my share.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true too. He doesn't want to ruin your spot. Yeah,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I would dabble here, I would dabble a little bit.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Why not.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: They picked up a couple of good guys. Love Robert Swarz,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: you know a little bit on there, you, I mean,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: plus one thousand is a lot. But do I see
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: them being the Dodgers now? But I don't know. You
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: never know what can happen. There's still more stuff to
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: get picked. There's still more guys that need to get
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: picked up. So doing it right now and then all
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: of a sudden it could get lower or could get higher.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: You don't think that. You don't think their starting rotation
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: can compete against the Dodgers lineup? No sale, Strider, Schwell
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: and Boch. You're gonna have Ronaldo Lopez back because clearly
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: they don't need to transition into the bullpen? Who do that?
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Miss grand Wall drip too.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I do like them, I do, I do like them.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I just that to me. That's why I love Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: go ahead, I love the tender one. I really really
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: like that number. I mean, anytime anytime I get into thousands,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, give it to me, But.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Do it for the Marlins.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Then the lineup has to the lineup has come around.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I will not do it for them. True, they do
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: have a good picture. You're right, they have good starting rotation.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: They always have good depth.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But you never know, like I said, they could pick
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: up somebody down the road here and all of a
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: sudden it goes to plus eight hundred plus seven hundred.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think it. I don't think they have a
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: big move in their cast. Like to me, if they
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: get if they get a Sun Kim to play shortstop,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: does that move the number off of plus one thousand.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I'm waiting until the season. But
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: if it's still at plus one thousand, I will. I
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: will take some of that because I think they're still
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: a good team, but the offense needs to needs to
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: bring it consistently. A full season of Akunya Michael Harris's
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: swing change is clearly worked from halfway point of the season,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: and well, profar I might not be on the good goods,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: so you know, you might just not get too much.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: They might pick up a few extra wins. Have you
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: seen the Mets roster lately? Bet MGM throughout four potential
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: candidate to join the team in spring training.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: The bottom line, Stone Cold.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Stone called Steve Austin. What's the King of Queen's real name?
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Kevin James, Kevin James.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Paul I'm saying, like, all cop, who's who's the best athlete?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: After what? Jared?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: That four?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Of that four? I would say, are you joking?
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: What Stone cald Steve Austin is a freak?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: No? I thought you're just talking about baseball only.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Sorry, oh oh baseball player.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Like if you had to pick right, is that what
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: you like? Somebody?
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: And that somebody that four has to hit second in
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: your line up? Somebody?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: And listen, you said athlete. He might be a good wrestler.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's good at basketball, baseball, maybe football.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Scott Scott thinks just because you have muscles that you're good,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: that you're a good athlete. Scott's like, check out these
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: boss steps? Do these aren't athletic?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You don't think?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: You don't think Stone Cold Steve Austin can can bang
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: down low and grab some rebounds, block some shots and
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: box out half the team and a wrecking who's.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Getting a hit first? Of those four? Paul Blart mall cop.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Adam Sandler is the one for me.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: He said athlete athlete. If he said who's getting a knock?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I would have said Sandler, I'm with you. And Sandler
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: looks like in that picture it might be old.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: He's got some forearms, play some basketball too. I've seen
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: him on the streets.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: If these four pictures were FT hosts, obviously Scott is
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: sena which which.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: You said seen it's not seeing its stone?
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: What did I say, John Cena, I'm sorry I did this.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I did this stone called Steve Austin is obviously.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: My favorite wrestler growing up.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, so so which which of those other three
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: are you?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I'll go I'll go with Sandler.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean my career would say I'm Jerry Seinfeld,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: but I feel like I'm I'm the mall cop them.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you would be Paul Blart. But the thing is
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you lost a lot of weight. You can't.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have not lost any weight. I'm literally you
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: were graduating. I appreciate you. You're making me blush at
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Christmas here, but no, I literally wait, did you lose
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I weigh two hundred and fifty pounds ever since my
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: senior year.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Of how about now two and fifty pounds, no chance,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I don't believe. I say two forty.
• 45:32
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• 45:38
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• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Let's skew this tweet from Chris Catillo, and it's in
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: reference to Sean McAdam, who also covers the Red Sox
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: on a daily basis. They did not want to go
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: long on Pete Alonzo. Apparently they fell pretty far behind,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: but they did go for him, so that's interesting. They
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: were in on him. Tell me if you've heard that
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: one before. Chris Catillo said, speaking in general terms and
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: not specifically about the failed Alonzo talks, one prominent agent
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: noted of the Red Sox they don't believe in long
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: term deals. I will push back a bit. I mean,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: how long did they just sign Garrett Crochet for? Like,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: they don't have anybody on long term contracts. They traded
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: away Raphael Devers, but what two three years ago they
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: gave him a long term deal. Maybe that's the game
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: plan this offseason, and if so, good luck getting Alex
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Bragman for less than five years. I don't know if
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I believe this one or if it's one agent who's
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: pissed about his particular player or players not getting long
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: term offers right, because I do think that they're going
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to send a decent quote, long term offer Alex Bragman's way.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: So this is maybe some other agent that's like, ah,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: they're not going after my player the way they should.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to offer Bregman at least five
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: years in today's game, Isn't that a long term offer?
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I think that's a long term offer. And I think
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Alex Bregman like like Kyle Schwarber to the Phillies, it's
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: a different level. We're talking about something different. Like I
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: think I heard somebody say it, had somebody offered, had
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: somebody offered six years, one sixty five to Kyle Schwarber?
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: The Phillies would have come back and done that. I
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: think the same can be said about Bregman. Yes, they
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: might not want long term deals on guys that are unknown.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: This is why, this is why you had a trial period,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: you had. You dated Alex Bregman last year, and now
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: it's time to put a ring on it. Like I think,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: I think they'll go. I think they'll go longer with him.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I think I'm now, I don't know that they want
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: to be known as a team that has to try
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: to backfill a guy that came in and really made
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of positive waves in that young clubhouse. So
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I think this would be maybe they don't want to
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: go long term, and they showed it by getting rid
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: of Raffie Devers and all the drama that was around that.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: But Bregman, I think is Bregman is different. Alonso unknown
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: commodity for them in that clubhouse. Bregman known commodity.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean to say, you're not gonna do long
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: term deals.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I've it won't work out.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah, it never does, right, I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: don't know, And that's that's you won't get the of
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: the names. I think that's the way going these long
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: term deals are for the greatest of baseball players. So
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure what they're thinking is
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: in their logic there.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I think they just won't give long term deals to
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: certain players.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I think certain type of player.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that. I mean, look at the Mets
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: just now. They didn't believe that Pete Alonso merited a
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: long term deal. They completely laid that out right. For
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: as much as that team spends, they did not feel
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: like that type of player was going to age the
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: way they wanted him to. Baltimore disagreed, and there you go.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Looks like they didn't want to go more than like
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: threeish years for him Tops. So anyway, one more. Mark
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Shapiro has been running the Blue Jays for a long time.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Ross Atkins works under him, but Shapiro gets signed up
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: for five more years. So Shi Davidi reported how this
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: is going to set him up for a total of
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: a fifteen year run on top of the franchise, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: he's the president and the CEO of the team since
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: the end of the twenty fifteen season. Top Father. For
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: a while, it looked like a tenure that was not fulfilling,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: especially lately when they had superstar players like Flattie and
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Bo and it's incredible how one postseason run changes everything,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: because it really did.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and time, give this guy. Give give somebody time.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: It's not like running a ship. It's hard to do.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you need time, you need a little more effort,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: you need to figure out who works well here and there.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: And now you're seeing it's paying off. And they had
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: a really big opportunity to win this World Series and
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: that would have been the icing on the cake for him.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: But they have a big opportunity to come back and
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: do what they do. So congratulations to him. That's that's
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: really great for the Blue jack.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: They gave him too much time. In my opinion, Okay,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: this should not be his This should not be his extension,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: this should not have been his In my opinion, it
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: should not have been his World Series team. Ultimately, it's
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: always about the players on the field. But to me,
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  Speaker 3: I felt like his time was overextended in Toronto, and
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: I went on plenty of radio stations saying that. So
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: I have to go back and now say, maybe we
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: should have trusted the roster he was putting together. Maybe
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: that you know the fact that he wasn't going back
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: out and getting the pieces that had success in Toronto,
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: the Matt Chapmans, the Brandon Belts or those types. And
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I saw a decline from the previous seasons and they
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: weren't going to get those guys. And now this offseason,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: look at what they did. They went out and got
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Andre Samenez Platinum Glove winner. They doubled tripled down on
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: their defense. Ale hunter Kirk got some stability and had
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: one of his better years again behind the plates. Vladimir Guerrero.
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  Speaker 3: To me, that was, you know, ownership that wasn't necessarily
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: front office, but I was the one banging the drum
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: that I felt like a lot of the issues of
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: why the Blue Jays couldn't turn it around and ultimately
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: finished last in the American League East was because of
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Ross Atkins and Mark Shapiro, and I clearly am wrong
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: because now they got five year extension for a guy
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: that I thought was out the door about a year
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: and a half ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad until it wasn't and now it's great,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: So props to him. A lot of this stuff's about timing, too.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Nailed it on timing, nail yailed it. I mean this
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: was magical. They lit up Canada, so they give them credit.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: It took longer than many people wanted it to, but
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: it's only one team out of fifteen that's going to
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: represent the American League each year in the World Series,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: and the Blue Jays were able to get as close
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: as you can get to pulling off the title. So
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: congrats to Shapiro and the Blue Jays keeping the front
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: office intact there and now let's lap hey shout out
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: to the team behind the scenes that helps us put
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: together the newsletter each week. There's the QR code. It's
• 53:20
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• 53:23
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• 53:29
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• 53:32
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• 53:34
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• 53:36
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• 53:41
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• 53:44
  Speaker 2: it's the ft Leadoff Newsletter. Next week we're on full
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: normal week, there'll probably be twenty million signings. I mean that,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: in all seriousness, there's still a lot of activity left
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: to go. We had a really fun week at the
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Winter Meetings, but in terms of volume, there wasn't a
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: ton a volume of deals. There were high impact deals.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: That's good for us. That means next week it's gonna
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: be awesome. I really believe that. Leading up to Christmas
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: time here, leading up to like the twenty third, which
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: is when we stop down for a little bit at
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: least with the live shows, it's gonna be lit crat hats.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The reason that there's no volume is because everybody was
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: coming on our show. If you go back and watch
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: some of our shows from the Winter Meetings, everybody was
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: on FT. I mean, how can I not My hero
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: is Todd Fraser. How can I not wear Todd Fraser's hat? Ah,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Todd gave me this hat? Oh wait, no, Todd did
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: not give me this hat. But I'm aware of reds.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I want to keep it here.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: You know, you know, what are you to use as
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: a trash.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Can as big as this rock rock red stuff all
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: the time? Us people and Tom's Ever, when I go to.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Grocery store, I'm not saying you're not gonna this. That
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: won't fit you. You'll put it on your head and
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: you'll turn and it'll just stay at the same place.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Five eights.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I'm a half my best gut.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can put your your cereal in that thing top.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Father wash it first.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: But some honey Cora. I want a big bowl of
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: honey may one. Honeycombs, May one honeycombs. Uh.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Happy Friday people, We will see you on Monday FT
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Live and actually we're working on some special content that
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: everyone will be able to check out during the winter
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: break between Christmas and New Year's so stay tuned for
• 55:32
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• 55:35
  Speaker 3: See you