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Sobriety Supports Corporate Success with Brittany Young · Wired For More - ADHD & Self Mastery

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, Ian May here with the Wired for More ADHD and Self Mastery podcast.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: I have my good friend Brittany Young on the line.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: She is a local Austinite.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_00: And what's interesting is that despite the fact that we are in the greater city of Austin together, we are both a bit of recluses.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, we're not recluses.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: We just have small children that require us to keep them alive at home.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: So uh but my friend Brittany, she is actually an executive coach specifically for helping executive leaders, founders, being able to navigate coming off of alcohol, whether it's actually a full-blown addiction or just something where they really want to regain control of their lives with when it comes to imbibeing and and utilizing alcohol.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: And for me personally, having struggled with various alcohol abuse, not to the point of addiction, but still abusing it.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I wanted to have this conversation with her today.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Britt, I appreciate you.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really excited to speak with you, Ian, and dive in to this conversation.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, we do have small children that we got to keep alive.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: We got a one-year-old who thankfully survived that first year, hopefully more.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: Congrat- I mean, one, congrats again.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: It is no small endeavor keeping a child alive for any amount of time.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: The first year, I would say, is usually the the hardest emotionally.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, one proud of you, uh Mama Bear, but also appreciative for the fact that you've while while doing the hard work of being a mother, like continuing to do the beautiful work that you do for executive leaders, you and I share a little bit of a similar story and that kind of hidden private struggle, still being successful, still being able to have the accolades.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, for for those of the people who don't know your story, I'd love for you to just share a little bit of kind of the backstory, how one, your personal struggle before getting into coaching.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I worked in the corporate sector for over a decade, specifically in pharmaceuticals and then chemical sales.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: And in sales, it was work hard, play harder, and you know, everything looked great on paper.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: I had 300 plus accounts to take care of.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: I was flying around the country, and one airport to another led to one drink at that airport to another.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: By the time you show up in another city, you're half lit and you have to go to your first meeting or the next morning.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so you're trying to figure out first, how do I hide this?
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: And secondly, is anybody gonna find out?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: And third, you know, if I have to take a client out for dinner, can we find a local bar or restaurant that serves alcohol?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: So it was it was always this planning and negotiation around the drink that I didn't know was going to be a full-blown addiction, at least for me.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: I made companies multimillion dollars, you know,$40 million in sales, but I had a drinking problem and nobody knew because the numbers were coming in, the sales were hitting the mark, I made an impact on the bottom line, and yet I was a problem.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it wasn't until the 18th of this month, September, that I finally surrendered and said, you know what, I can't do this anymore.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: I can't keep drinking and having a career and trying to have a life.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: This is impossible.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so I finally set it down and I didn't go to rehab, I didn't go to a specific program per se.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: I just decided enough was enough.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm ending this negotiation.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to struggle anymore, and that was it.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think one one of the things that's interesting is how long we can justify some of those patterns and behaviors because you say it was a problem, but objectively on paper, well, it wasn't a problem yet.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still closing, I'm still functional, I'm still effective, I'm still hitting my targets, showing up for the things that are important, even if I still have to have this passenger, this monkey on my back that I'm bringing along with me.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I think one of the things that you said that resonated is this idea of planning and building a life around it.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_00: That it's I I have to make sure that when I go places, there's all it's always accessible.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: Or even for some people in in my family, they'll they'll just say, Well, I'm I'm just a social drinker.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, but you keep looking for a lot of reasons to have to socialize.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and so it's just interesting because like we can reinforce and justify any number of patterns, behaviors, beliefs, even identity around it.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just so hard to have that introspection.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it sounds like you were able to relatively make a pretty like conscientious decision around it.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: What was it like in those in those early days when it came to family?
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: When you say no one knew about it, but when did that armor start to get some chips in it when people started to notice?
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: People started saying things, right?
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like what was that like?
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the turning point was being fired from one of the companies I worked for.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: I had come home from a weekend away in Houston, ironically.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_01: I was living in Pennsylvania at the time, and I got the pink slip.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: And the boss said, You have two choices.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: You can fight this or you can leave on your terms.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: And so I left without a fight.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: Things started to go downhill from there.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: And where people started to notice was I wasn't present.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: I was blacking out on weekends, I wasn't answering my phone.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: I was planning everything around, you know, going to a bar.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't showing up for family dinners.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: And if I was there, I wasn't really there, even though I was physically present.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: My mind was somewhere else.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Mentally, cognitively, there was just glass in my eyes.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: And at one point, my executive assistant pulled me aside and she said, You look terrible.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, back home, back in Philly, we can talk to each other like that, no problem, might get offended here in Texas.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, when she said that to me, I went into full, oh my gosh, clutch the pearls moment.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: But it was that turning point of she's right.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I need to figure out how to undisguise this without making it such a big deal for my family, for my my parents.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, at 26, making that decision was a really huge moment because everybody around me was out partying and having a good time.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's your 20s, you're supposed to be free and weird and all these things.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I could not do that without alcohol.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know who I was without the drink.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: And so it became that point in my life where it was either continue doing this and possibly head into rehab or die or lay it down, and that was it.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: I I think there's so so much about what you're saying.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: It the social nature of alcohol is oftentimes what people will struggle with the most.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: That we use it when we're celebrating, we're use it when we're lamenting and mourning.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're just using it in literally every every circumstance that it's just always present.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was at a family barbecue and a camping trip over the weekend in kind of the middle of nowhere, Wisconsin.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it it was like the number of coolers that were just for the alcohol was pretty staggering.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just so interesting when you start having those conversations of like, oh, aren't you gonna have a drink?
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's confusing when you're not drinking.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's confusing and and befuddling to people when it's just like, no, I'm I'm not having a drink.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, why?
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's like uh why do I have to have a reason not to imbibe and participate in something?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: That it is interesting that when it comes to food and alcohol, there is so much of there's camaraderie and tribalism, and we feel this acceptance and belonging when we are imbibing what everyone else is imbibing.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: And it it can be for a lot of people really difficult to know how to say no to that, how to let people down, especially if you've formed an identity around I'm the fun, playful one when I have this alcohol, when I have the social social lubrication that I need.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: But otherwise, like I like like to your point, I don't know who I am without it.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know how to not be this person.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: All of my friends, this is what they do when they hang out.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'll just be a social pariah if I'm not not participating in that.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: So you you didn't necessarily check yourself into rehab, but you started on this journey, like in those early days.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: What what was some of the the practical strategies that you like that started to really help you create some momentum for that?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I want to talk about that and touch on the fact that alcohol is the only drug that people do justify.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: And we do that because we don't want other people to feel uncomfortable.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: I still, 13 years later, when people say, Do you need a drink or want a drink?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: I used to say, No, I have a problem.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: Now I say, nah, I'm good.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: And they look at you funny, and you don't need to explain yourself.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: Just say no.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's a full sentence.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, as far as practicality for me, what wound up happening was during that surrender period to God, he and I had this conversation, and God said, Pick up your computer and research how to get sober.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm there I am, I'm typing away.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: I come across this story, and it's about this gentleman who went to the CrossFit Games but was a heroin addict.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so he was shooting up needles before the CrossFit games.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody knew, and obviously came in last place.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: After that happened, he locked himself in a closet with bread and water for three days, which is insane.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: And he got sober, he went to rehab.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: Now he goes around the country speaking about his story, how CrossFit changed his life.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that was an aha for me.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Join a gym, specifically a CrossFit gym.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: These people are probably sober in the best shape of their life.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: You can too.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: I played college basketball, so why not?
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: So I found the local gym.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: It was about 20 minutes away, and I started getting into CrossFit.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: After that, I got into power lifting.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: That became a real staple in my life.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: The community often went out with one another, but you know, we're eating salads and steaks, we're not at the bar.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: So that was another thing.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: And then we also talked about sleep a lot.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: What it looked like to recover on the weekends when you're lifting weights during the week.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: That was so huge for me because I was maybe averaging four hours of sleep at night.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then I started getting eight to ten.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and this, I think that's something even particular, like the sleep aspect of it.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: For women in particular, when it comes to hormones, in order to be healthy, in order to recover from the training, your the amount of growth hormone you get, the progesterone that your body produces, you only recover that from sleep.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: So when it comes to alcohol, there's even more than men.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I hate to make this sort of a gender-based discussion, but there's almost even a bigger impact when you are imbibing that anything that affects your sleep has more degrading byproducts of it.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: But so I mean, I think what's beautiful about what you did is you immediately obsessed over, hey, what is a community that it's not about what you're avoiding, right?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I think this is something that a lot of people get stuck with is when they are trying to recover, when they're trying to get rid of some pattern or habit or behavior, they'll obsess about just avoiding the behavior, just ignoring it, avoiding it, kind of almost going into a cave.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: And that's not the best way for you to really change your patterns of behavior.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that you obsess with, like, I'm just gonna go be surrounded by people who they have goals that require them, like this is just a byproduct of that.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, these goals are important.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm working towards this thing, and yeah, of course, I'm gonna minimize how much alcohol I drink in order to reach that goal.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: That it's more about what you're working towards rather than what what you're staying away from that is like the central focus, and that you immediately attach yourself in that community.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: So you you start joining CrossFit, you join a gym, plenty of healthy other athletes.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: You also are like, let's let's be honest, like you've you crushed it in in CrossFit and powerlifting.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like you you definitely have some good genetics in that space.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: It seems like you had some success there.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: Did that help?
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: That it's like this is something that you showed some promise as a skill in.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it helps to have a Division I father who played football.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: My all all of us played a sport.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: So my sisters and I played basketball.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: My brother walked on D1 and played football.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: We had dad.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: Mom was also an athlete.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, she didn't go on to college to play, but she played in high school through eSports.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: So, yes.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I never thought that lifting was going to be my thing.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: I always thought, oh, I'll play basketball well into my 40s, my kids can come to my games.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then I tore my knee and I couldn't go back and play basketball because of the I couldn't do any lateral movements.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: So with lifting, I thought, wow, I've got the body type for this.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: I definitely have the genetics for it.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm strong as hell.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: Why not see what happens?
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, down here in Texas, going up against these women who are doing this for fun, and I'm trying to do this for like competitiveness, it really drove me.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: It drove me so far away from the bar culture to another bar.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm forever grateful for that journey.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I don't want to obviously you and I are both humble people in our lifts.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's worth sharing some of your PRs in some of the core lifts.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because yeah, you you say that you had good genetics, but just for the people watching, like I would love for you to share.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead and just say what some of your core lifts were, just so we can if you're not so I have been able to deadlift 350 pounds.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: I weigh 130 pounds just for reference.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: I've been able to bench press about 215 and I can squat about 325.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: So that's a small linebacker.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so those are yeah, I was gonna say that you you pretty much have it covered for the linebacker genetics.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: So those numbers are phenomenal.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm only 5'1, so there's that.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: So there's I was gonna say 5'1, 130 pounds.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: If you were 5'1, 130 pounds, even as a male, those would be world-class numbers.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: So even gender aside, those are ridiculous numbers to be throwing around.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: So one, proud of you.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you're a boss, which I have to imagine though, too, like in terms of like the acceptance and belonging within the CrossFit culture of like, hey, it's not just that you're showing up and you're getting in a good workout, you're training.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like you you've uh you've decided like this is a training protocol and a training routine.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'd have to assume now in your coaching that you look at alcohol the same way with a with the mindset of training, not getting in a good workout, not like getting in a good meditation, but no, we are training and building rituals and routines that increase our capacity to say no to the drink, being able to build up rituals around that.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: If we could just dive into more of like your coaching practices, when you bring on a new executive into your uh into your program, where do you typically start that kind of works across the board?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's interesting that you mentioned the correlation between lifting and the drinking, because a lot of these men and women are still in that negotiation phase.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: So, where we start is from an emotional perspective on where that began.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Where did the negotiation start emotionally?
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: So it could have started when they were teenagers, or some of my clients started drinking in their mid-20s or late 30s, and they're trying to figure out that root cause of that emotion.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: And so once we figure out what that root is, we can start to build some muscles around it while tearing down a lot of these.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: I drink because I have fun, I drink because everybody else is doing it.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: I drink because my family, that's what they do.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I fell into that, right?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: So we're breaking down, if you think about a muscle, we're breaking down the fiber so we can build and build and build and grow that muscle.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: I always think about a bicep, right?
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of us have puny arms when we start.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: None of us have, we have some muscle definition, but as we continue to break that fiber down and it grows and grows and grows, that's what we're really doing in my practice.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: So we're breaking it all the way down to that root.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: What is that core emotion?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Usually it's either sadness, anger, you know, I'm feeling really, really, what's the word I'm looking for?
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Aware that I have the emotion, but there's fear there.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then under that fear is something else.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to get to that core and build on that.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that what tends to happen with a lot of clients is they hit that aha and they go, Oh, I made it.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I have to pull them back and say, Yes, and we're building from here.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: This is your starting ground.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Now we get to form your identity of who you are from this emotion.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: You were sad, now how do we find joy?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: You were angry, how do we build on that anger?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I find it really fascinating, especially with men who come in angry and leave really soft, and leave with this attentiveness to not only their own social well-being or their body, but their wives or kids are more present.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: And this ripple effect starts to happen where they're making more money, or they get a raise, or they wind up hiring somebody because they don't want to take so much work on so they can go home and be there for their family.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's amazing what muscle definition will do for the mind, the body, and the spirit.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something that that you said of like digging into the core, underlying the pattern of behavior.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: In the addiction coaching that I did for some time, this was more in like the cyber sex and internet, phone addictions.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: That like you're saying, there's usually an emotion that you're not allowing yourself to feel.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so just even being able to get to the point of like which emotion is not allowed.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me which one, which one was punished the most, which one was not allowed the most?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: And and usually when you can pinpoint creating some awareness around what emotion emotion are you typically trying to escape.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: How do I now allow myself to feel that emotion?
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: How do I allow myself to feel it deeply so that now one, it's not so overwhelming that I don't have to mute and muffle it through alcohol.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like hey, actually, I can create some resilience to it.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: And resilience doesn't mean shoving it down.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Rem resilience means increasing my capacity for it, increasing my strength when when that trigger happens.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: And now of a sudden, yeah, I can be more present with my family because I'm not constantly hyper-vigilant and protecting myself from this potential emotion or triggers of that emotion.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I think to that point of hey, there's actually beautiful things on the other side of this.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Deeper presence with your family, more connection to your work, doing more meaningful work.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's the part where some people don't realize that that is accessible to them.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, to your point to some of the work that you do and to your credit, being able to help show them here's what it looked like in my own life, here are the beautiful things that you potentially have access to.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: And giving them permission to be able to say, like, this could be available to you.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I I I I love that you've been having this conversation.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, typically, how do people find you?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Where can they uh is there anything you're working on right now that you'd like to share?
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: And and kind of Yeah, so people usually find me on LinkedIn, or if you connect with me, I'm gonna send you a message because I don't want to just leave somebody in the dust and you press that one button and you go, oh, connect with this lady.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm all about relationships.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I said, my previous career was sales.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Sales to me is permissive and relationship-based.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not here to sell you on quitting drinking.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to go and have a good time, by all means.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm choosing opposite.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: I can go and have a good time in my garden.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need to go to a bar to do that.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm on LinkedIn mainly.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: I also have a website.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's sober exec e-x-ec.com.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: And right now I'm working on filling up a cohort with these wonderful executives because I do believe in community.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: We should not be hiding or avoiding other people while we're trying to work through this journey in being present for ourselves, present for our families, our companies, whatever it is that we're trying to hide behind the scenes.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, Ian, the other thing I want to touch on real quick too is you mentioned, you know, hiding emotion.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: We can hide happiness, we can hide joy.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and especially women, where we think we have to do it all.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think the best part of my life has has been becoming a mom.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: It has brought me so much joy.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't hide that, and I don't think I need to.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, my kids are my life.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: My work has been a calling, and I'm forever grateful for whomever I get to serve.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: My children come first, my husband comes first, but my clients know that they have such a special place in my heart.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: I don't do this work for clicks, I don't do this work for what the kids say, clout.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: I do this work because people need the help and they are in desperate uh hiding and avoidance.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: And that was me.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: And if I can give anybody anything, it's love.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really why I got into this work.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: As you have with your coaching as well, it's about love.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not here to pass judgment, I'm just simply here to show that there's somebody else on the other side that have done has done this and we want to give back to you.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: And that's it.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: So you've got a cohort program coming up.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: I will definitely link all of the socials and website uh in the show notes.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: Specific timeline when that when that's going.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: No specific timeline.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know, once we get three or more people, we're rocking and rolling.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome, perfect.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, then if this is somebody on the other side of this who feels like they need to be surrounded by other people to come come alongside them, you've got you've got that move forward.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Britt, I I appreciate the work that you're doing, the way that you share your story on on LinkedIn, uh, which is where we connected.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, all things considered, I'm excited for somebody who's listening to this who's finally raising their hand to say this this might be for me.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate you so much.