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SICK PERV SEX PREDATORS lure children on Snapchat, Tik Tok, Instagram. HEAR IT! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: It's very very complex, yet also in many ways very simple.
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Speaker 1: In protecting your children, it's not that your child is
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Speaker 1: good or bad. Think of it like this, When your
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Speaker 1: child is at the playground, do you leave them there
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Speaker 1: and go to them all and go shopping. No, because
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Speaker 1: something horrible could happen to them. Online is a new
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Speaker 1: prate playground, and predators are there lurking. I remember telling juries,
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Speaker 1: one jury after the next. Well, what do you believe?
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Speaker 1: You believe all the state's witnesses are lying and the
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Speaker 1: only person telling the truth is a defendant. Statistically, how
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Speaker 1: does that figure out? What in a trillion? No, it's
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Speaker 1: common sense. Everyone's not lying except the defendant. What I'm
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Speaker 1: saying now is all of the story as we are
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Speaker 1: brought to you today. Cross education lines, their multicultural lines,
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Speaker 1: they cause cross lines of wealth and privilege, race, gender,
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Speaker 1: Children all across the world are being targeted online by predators.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're in a safe neighborhood. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you have your PhD. It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: All that matters is if your child is online and
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Speaker 1: mine are. And so help me God in heaven, I
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Speaker 1: will do what I've got to do to Keep Them Safe.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace it is every parent's nightmare
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Speaker 1: your child attacked. And Tonight police say an underage girl
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Speaker 1: was kidnapped and raped by a man she met on Snapchat.
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Speaker 1: Good evening, I'm Cynthia say either we here's so much
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Speaker 1: about the dangers of social media, and for one girl,
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Speaker 1: an interaction online led to five days of horror. David
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Speaker 1: Gowens is Live and Azel Tonight. David, you talked to
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Speaker 1: employees at a KFC who actually helped that young girl.
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Speaker 1: Both of them told me quote, we didn't do anything special,
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Speaker 1: but Azel police and I'd say their quick actions and
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Speaker 1: accurate suspect description helped get that girl back to safety.
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Speaker 1: Shannon Kates and Lindsay Sadio said someone walked into their
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Speaker 1: Azel KFC store before they opened Monday. She was shaking
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Speaker 1: and could barely talk. She looked up and as seen
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Speaker 1: all the blood and it's just said help me, Please
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Speaker 1: help me. And then she kept looking and she to
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Speaker 1: please help me. He's gonna get me, he's gonna find me.
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Speaker 1: Please help me. Ran from next stoor. He's next door.
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Speaker 1: Azel police say twenty four year old Diamond Marquise Williams
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Speaker 1: met the teenager on Snapchat and then kidnapped her from
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Speaker 1: her fort Worth home, forcing the girl to tell her
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Speaker 1: parents she was okay and saying with friends, and then
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Speaker 1: held her for five days. So on Monday, when Williams
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Speaker 1: went inside this pawn shop next door, the girl ran
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Speaker 1: to Lindsay and Shannon. They locked the door, called nine
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Speaker 1: one one and kept the girl closed. Diamond once is
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Speaker 1: charged with aggravated kidnapping an aggravated sexual assault of a child. Tonight,
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Speaker 1: the Azel police chief tells me their investigation into Williams
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Speaker 1: as far from over and that more charges are possible.
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Speaker 1: A parents' worst nightmare. A young girl meets the guy
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Speaker 1: on snapchat, is lured and held a hostage for five days,
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Speaker 1: being sex assaulted the entire time. And I'm looking at
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Speaker 1: Domid Marquis Williams. I'll tell you what if I saw
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Speaker 1: that in an alley, I would run the other way
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Speaker 1: much less let my children get lured in. But here's
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Speaker 1: the kicker. You don't know what's happening. It's all happening
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Speaker 1: on line. I mean, see, Grace, this is crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. You were just hearing
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Speaker 1: our friends at WFAA and Azel Texas. That was Cynthia
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Speaker 1: Cigara and David Going. She lived thanks to Kentucky Fried
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Speaker 1: Chicken employees. They locked the doors and call nine one one.
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Speaker 1: But how many children, how many girls, how many twains
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Speaker 1: never make it home? As a matter of fact, take
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Speaker 1: a listen to this. Investigators say, this is Marillio hernandez Vaya.
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Speaker 1: Instead of being the teenager he said he was. He's
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years old and charged with raping an eleven
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Speaker 1: year old girl he met on Snapchat. Police say hernandez
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Speaker 1: Vaya went back and forth with a girl on Snapchat
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Speaker 1: for a couple of months than Detectives say he took
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Speaker 1: an uber from Tacoma to her house in c Tech,
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Speaker 1: where he sexually assaulted her, a devastating crime. Her mom
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Speaker 1: was willing to talk to us, but asked us not
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Speaker 1: to reveal her identity. And I think he knows how
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Speaker 1: to manipulate and say the right being, twist the stories
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Speaker 1: and lie repeatedly. And there's more kids that wouldn't fall
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Speaker 1: for it. And I wouldn't want that on anybody. Investigators
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Speaker 1: say the girl's mom came home from work on August
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Speaker 1: twenty eighth and found her Nande's Vaya hiding behind some
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Speaker 1: luggage in a bedroom. She held the door close, called
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Speaker 1: nine to one and waited for officers to arrest him.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want this man that take advantage of my
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Speaker 1: daughter to have an opportunity to do it again, or
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Speaker 1: hearn some other way, or make life harder than it
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Speaker 1: is already. Can you even imagine coming home and there's
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Speaker 1: a grown man hiding in your home who has allured
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Speaker 1: your eleven year old child on Snapchat, takes an uber
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Speaker 1: to the home and sex assaults the little girl. That
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Speaker 1: was our friend Alison Grande at k I R O
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Speaker 1: seven that was in c Tech, Washington. We've gone from
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Speaker 1: Texas now to Washington. Your backyard maybe the next spot again.
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Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace's Crime Stories. Thank you for being with me,
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Speaker 1: an all star panel here to fill you in on
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Speaker 1: what's happening right now in your home. Detective rich was Stocky,
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Speaker 1: child crime expert, President of be Sure Consulting and Detective
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Speaker 1: was Stocky has just launched cyber Parenting Dash one O
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Speaker 1: one dot com. Doctor free hes Pediatric emergency Medicine, child
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Speaker 1: safety expert, founder of pettymom dot com that is a
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Speaker 1: child safety website. Brian Basin, the CEO of Bark Bark.
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Speaker 1: You may not have heard of it, but I sure have.
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Speaker 1: He is a tech expert and joining me right now,
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Speaker 1: a colleague and a friend, the CMO chief Marketing Officer,
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Speaker 1: chief Parenting Officer. I like that name. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: give that name to myself. Titania, Jordan, Tatania, you and
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Speaker 1: I had a really long talk where I revealed to
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Speaker 1: you my love for Bark Bark as in woof, woof,
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Speaker 1: it's it's let me just say it in regular people talk.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a tech expert like you and Brian Basin.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor like free Hess, a detective like
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Speaker 1: Rich Wistocky. What bark is? Um, it's a program. I
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Speaker 1: have it on my phone, my husband has it, and
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Speaker 1: it's connected to all my children's devices. And for instance,
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Speaker 1: the other day, I get an alert. I get alerts
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Speaker 1: all the time. I read them every time that there
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Speaker 1: is troubling, troubling incident on John David's phone and I
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Speaker 1: have to log in to see it and what it was.
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Speaker 1: John David had been playing soccer and had tried to
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Speaker 1: get a ball and went through the soccer net with
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Speaker 1: one arm and kind of under his armpit, between his
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Speaker 1: armpit and his elbow on the inside, he got a
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Speaker 1: big black bruise, and of course I don't know why
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Speaker 1: he did this. He took a picture of it and
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Speaker 1: sent it to some of his friends on a soccer team.
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Speaker 1: This is what happened today on the playground, and BARK
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Speaker 1: picked up that picture of a bruise and it came
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Speaker 1: back as quote self harming or violence. I think it was.
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Speaker 1: That is how sensitive the BARK program is. If they
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Speaker 1: even get a song that has damn in it or
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Speaker 1: shizzle or it picks it up. I spend a lot
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Speaker 1: of time reading everything BARK alerts me too. First of all,
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Speaker 1: how did you get involved in BARK? What is it
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Speaker 1: and what does it seek to prevent? Oh my gosh, Nancy, Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful for the opportunity to be here
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Speaker 1: with you and share the message of BARK with everyone listening. Um,
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Speaker 1: you asked how I got involved. I truly believe it's
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Speaker 1: by the grace of God. Thankfully I was in the
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Speaker 1: space and tech and you know, I'm glad you said that, Datonia.
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. In the media business, you
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Speaker 1: say something like God or Christ it's like you let
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Speaker 1: a stink bomb out in the room. Nobody wants to
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Speaker 1: hear that. Nobody wants to hear anything about religion or faith.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm proud. I'm certainly no expert at it,
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Speaker 1: but I'm trying, right. So you think it was divine
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Speaker 1: intervention that you got connected to bark, Absolutely, And I
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Speaker 1: can talk more about that later. But you know the
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Speaker 1: fact that we are able to keep over four point
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Speaker 1: two million children safer across the nation because they're spending
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Speaker 1: upwards of eight hours a day online. Oh whoa, whoa
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Speaker 1: whoa Wait wait wait wait wait eight hours a day online?
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Doctor Free has helped me out there.
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Speaker 1: You are pediatric emergency mess eight hours a day on line.
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Speaker 1: I don't think the Petty Mom podcast would like that
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Speaker 1: very much. That is not only the truth, but you
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Speaker 1: have to keep in mind that that's the average, meaning
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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of kids who are actually spending
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Speaker 1: even more time online. So that includes after school, even
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Speaker 1: in school a lot of times, and oftentimes these kids
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Speaker 1: are spending a good portion of their night instead of
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Speaker 1: sleeping online on their phones. So yeah, it's a really
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Speaker 1: really scary number. That really risks a lot of damage
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Speaker 1: to the kids in lots of different ways, even outside
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Speaker 1: of what we're talking about today. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: repercussions to spending about much time in front of a
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Speaker 1: screen eight hours a day. Okay, Titania Jordan cmo at Bark,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I interrupted you with that. That studying number,
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Speaker 1: eight hours a day. That's how purvs and predators are
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Speaker 1: getting them. They're on eight hours a day. For Pete
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Speaker 1: say go ahead, yeah no, And I'm so thankful for
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Speaker 1: doctor free hes put putting a pin in effect. That
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Speaker 1: that's the average. There are children they're actually online more.
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Speaker 1: And what's pretty staggering is the time that transpires for
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Speaker 1: online predators to groom shouldren. Now that used to be
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Speaker 1: when the Internet didn't exist, the relationship between pedophiles and
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Speaker 1: shoulder and it would take months sometimes to evolve into
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Speaker 1: one of danger. Now it's it's seconds, it's minutes. It
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Speaker 1: goes from a high from a man in a DM
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Speaker 1: that's a direct message to a new photo or video
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Speaker 1: in literally a matter of seconds. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: how many of you allow your children to charge their
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Speaker 1: devices in their rooms at night? Also joining me, his
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Speaker 1: Detective Richard was stocky. I want you to hear what
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Speaker 1: he said in a Ted talk. The common denominator in
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Speaker 1: all my sextortion child exploitation cases is that when the
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Speaker 1: parent allows them, you to charge them to charge their
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Speaker 1: devices in their rooms at night you're sleeping, they shut
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Speaker 1: the doors so you can't hear them. It's not a
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Speaker 1: matter of talking. It's typing, reading and performing with apps
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Speaker 1: like the one book they get from school, going in again,
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Speaker 1: Google Hangouts, Oovu, omegal, Skype, House Party. These are video
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Speaker 1: chat sites that our kids are using and there are
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Speaker 1: two to six people in that chat room while they're
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Speaker 1: in their bedroom. Okay, rich Yes, ma'am, I've seen a lot,
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Speaker 1: but you're hitting a nerve right now with my children,
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Speaker 1: my twins. Go ahead, tell me what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: In my career, I've arrested over three hundred predators in
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Speaker 1: my career. So when a parent allows their child to
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Speaker 1: charge their device in their rooms at night, the child
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Speaker 1: feels safe. The inhibitions are lowered, and they feel like
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Speaker 1: they can do and say anything and nobody's going to
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Speaker 1: touch them. Because when I teach my kids, they think
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Speaker 1: that the things that I'm talking to them about happen
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Speaker 1: somewhere else. Well, it doesn't. When we talk about Fortnite
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Speaker 1: roadblocks a minecrafts that they play. The average internet predator
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Speaker 1: has two hundred and fifty victims in their lifetime. They
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Speaker 1: have a device in their rooms. They know that numerous
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Speaker 1: kids are doing that, and they wait till late at night.
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Speaker 1: So their parents go to sleepe to talk to your child.
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Speaker 1: Let me give you. Let me set up the scenario
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Speaker 1: for children. Now, I hardly teach in high schools anymore.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to elementary schools now. Now when I go
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Speaker 1: to fourth and fifth grade, how old are they? They're
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Speaker 1: like nine, ten eleven years old? Right, Most parents don't
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Speaker 1: know that you have to be thirteen in order to
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Speaker 1: have a social network. So when our child talks to
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Speaker 1: their parents, you know everybody's got it in school. Why
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Speaker 1: can't you let me have it? You let my older
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Speaker 1: bullar sisters have it? And parents give in. Well, when
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Speaker 1: they give in, this child says, oh great, I can
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Speaker 1: get a snatchat Well, that's put their dead birth in.
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Speaker 1: And let's face it, our kids are not the best
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Speaker 1: mathematicians because of court math and what happens is they
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Speaker 1: don't know what they have both to put in See
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Speaker 1: I was born in twenty twelve. I go, oh, do
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Speaker 1: I go down? Oh? Halkod. I was just round up
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Speaker 1: a two thousand. When they put a data birth of
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Speaker 1: two thousand. I asked kids that I teach all over
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Speaker 1: the country, how many of you put your data birth
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Speaker 1: in two thousand? Seventy five percent of them will raise
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Speaker 1: their hand. How old are they today? Nineteen? So now
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Speaker 1: I have nine ten eleven year olds posing against nineteen
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Speaker 1: year olds. Who do you think's going to come talk
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Speaker 1: to them? I don't wow. Okay, you know we are
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Speaker 1: talking about snapchat, we are talking about roadblocks, are talking
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Speaker 1: about TikTok. They all seem innocent. But I want you
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Speaker 1: to take a listen to people I spoke with their
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Speaker 1: little girl abducted. Listen. I had recognized some behavior my
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Speaker 1: daughter that was troubling to me. I saw some behavior
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Speaker 1: that I felt like was was off, and I felt
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Speaker 1: like she might need to talk to someone. I could
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Speaker 1: see signs she was dressing up in pigtails and using bottles,
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Speaker 1: and there were things that were I was I could
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Speaker 1: tell someone was leading her to different behavior that I
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Speaker 1: wasn't encouraging. And so I started to control. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we were already controlling her Internet access to some degree,
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Speaker 1: and we were in her phone was limited. Okay, wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Whoa wa
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Speaker 1: wa wa wait wait. Do you believe that this guy,
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Speaker 1: Michael Weisilovski was telling her what to do, to dress differently,
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Speaker 1: to act differently. Yes, he was absolutely Yeah, this little
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Speaker 1: girl was actually using a school computer, just like Detective
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Speaker 1: Richard Stalky was advising. She went into a weight lost
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Speaker 1: chat room, as I recall on Yahoo, and that is
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Speaker 1: where a stalker was waiting. He held her as a
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Speaker 1: sex slave for months on end. This is after meeting
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Speaker 1: online two Brian Basin joining us CEO of Bark Brian,
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Speaker 1: why do you believe that, for instance, Snapchat and TikTok
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Speaker 1: are serious dangers to children, especially twains I'm talking eleven, twelve,
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Speaker 1: thirteen years old. Well, all technology has the potential for misuse,
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Speaker 1: and you know, we've certainly seen, you know, the Internet
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Speaker 1: do amazing things, and technology is a wonderful, wonderful thing.
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Speaker 1: But as with most technology, there's unintended consequences, and you know,
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Speaker 1: certainly with the ability for predators in particular to contact children,
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Speaker 1: on social platforms and gaming platforms. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: risks that parents are generally unaware of. And so you know,
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Speaker 1: at Bark we've escalated over four hundred predators to the FBI,
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Speaker 1: and so it's actually not nearly as uncommon as I
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Speaker 1: think most parents think. Two. Doctor Free has pediatric emergency
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Speaker 1: medicine specialist, child safety expert, founder of the Petty mom
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Speaker 1: Peed I M o M dot com, a child safety website.
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Speaker 1: Doctor free hass I'd like to hear your thoughts on
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Speaker 1: particularly Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok. So these particular platforms put these
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Speaker 1: children at huge risk for many reasons. Obviously, they have
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Speaker 1: tons of predators on there where they're seeking children out.
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Speaker 1: Knowing what I mean, they're very very good at their job.
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Speaker 1: They know children very well, they know where their weaknesses are.
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Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you have these children
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Speaker 1: who are being exposed to things that they are not
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Speaker 1: really prepared or capable of understanding or dealing with. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of information showing us that kids, specially
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Speaker 1: preteens even into the teen years, they don't have a
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Speaker 1: fully developed brain, specifically the lateral prefunctal cortex. It is
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Speaker 1: not fully functioning at that point, and that is where
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Speaker 1: decision making, immature self regulation happens. So what happens is
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Speaker 1: if you have put somebody in certain a child in
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Speaker 1: certain situations where they don't have the ability to make
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Speaker 1: appropriate decision making skills and can't self regulate, they end
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Speaker 1: up relying more on the reward of the experience rather
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Speaker 1: than being able to calculate the risk before deciding whether
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Speaker 1: or not they want to accept or acknowledge that reward.
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Speaker 1: So that puts them in a unique position for these
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Speaker 1: predators that are on these sites to get to them.
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Speaker 1: I will add to that, I use these apps, all
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Speaker 1: of them as a child. Does I actually sign up
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Speaker 1: for all of these and I use them as a
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Speaker 1: child with a freak bake profile. And I see all
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Speaker 1: of this happening in real time, especially with the live
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Speaker 1: streaming apps and all of that. And back to mention
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Speaker 1: about letting your kids, not letting your kids charge their
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Speaker 1: phones in their rooms, that's when I see the most
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Speaker 1: activity between predators and children, some of which has prompted
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Speaker 1: me to make phone calls to my local police department
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Speaker 1: and to the National Center of the Staying Exploited Children.
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Speaker 1: I mean this is this is happening so much because
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Speaker 1: we have so many children on these platforms and so
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Speaker 1: many pedophiles on these platforms, and they are able to
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Speaker 1: target their kids, just like Tatanya had said, quickly, super
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Speaker 1: super quickly. And then they end up knowing the weaknesses
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Speaker 1: of these kids and start what they would call quote
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Speaker 1: unquote a relationship and they gained their trust, which then,
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Speaker 1: because they're not able to make proper decisions based on
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Speaker 1: lack of brain development at the time, they end up
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Speaker 1: getting pulled into this to no fault of their own,
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Speaker 1: but they get pulled into it so even And this
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Speaker 1: is something that I want to remind parents all the time.
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Speaker 1: You know, you've talked to them, you've warned them about
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Speaker 1: the risks, but you know, my kids a good kid.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to let them on these platforms anyway, because
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Speaker 1: my kid isn't the type of kid that would fall
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Speaker 1: for something like that. They absolutely are, I mean it
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Speaker 1: is it has nothing to do with the individual kids.
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Speaker 1: Prime stories with Nancy Grace, Texas mother is on a
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Speaker 1: desperate search to find her teenage daughter and she believes
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Speaker 1: her daughter left with a man she met on snapchat.
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Speaker 1: You may remember this and may have seen the photos
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Speaker 1: here a fifteen year old Heaven Ray Cox on your
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Speaker 1: Facebook feat. She was last seen on Saturday in Orange, Texas.
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Speaker 1: The jeen's mother has since found out that Heaven was
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Speaker 1: talking to a man she met on Snapchat. She thinks
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Speaker 1: the teen could be going to California with him. It's
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Speaker 1: total shock, total shock. We did not see it coming. Mainly,
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Speaker 1: we don't have any answers at all. We have no name,
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Speaker 1: no face. Well, the Orange County Sheriff is now investigating
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Speaker 1: this as a runaway case and it's trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out who that man is. Dear Lord in Heaven, you
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Speaker 1: are listening to AB thirteen anchors Tom Koch and Samika Night.
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Speaker 1: So the little girl goes online. Next thing you know,
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Speaker 1: she's in a car on her way to California with
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Speaker 1: a predator. And it's not just Snapchat, it's not just Instagram.
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Speaker 1: Have any of you parents heard the name Minecraft? The
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Speaker 1: Fed say the two met online when the girl was
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Speaker 1: only twelve, and prosecutors say this sheriff deputy would manipulate
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Speaker 1: and threaten her all the way from Texas. A Texas
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Speaker 1: sheriff deputy accused of cyberstocking a Wooster County teenager through
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Speaker 1: the popular video game Minecraft. According to the thirteen page
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Speaker 1: indictment unsealed Wednesday, the twenty five year old deputy would
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Speaker 1: refer to himself as Geno and Daddy, and the miner
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Speaker 1: as baby Girl. Prosecutors say the two met online back
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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, when the victim was twelve. Over the years,
21:56
Speaker 1: authorities say the girls sent him hundreds of explicit photos
21:59
Speaker 1: of herself. She's now seventeen and reported to police this
22:02
Speaker 1: past spring. She believed the Texas deputy was tracking her
22:06
Speaker 1: movements via social media, and he was allegedly threatening to
22:09
Speaker 1: publish her explicit photos or rape her sister if she
22:13
Speaker 1: didn't continue to send him nude pictures. That's just the
22:16
Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg. That's our friend at WHDH seven
22:20
Speaker 1: news reporter Eric Kane, I want to go back to
22:24
Speaker 1: Titania Jordan's CMO, Chief Marketing Officer, Chief parenting officer at BARK.
22:30
Speaker 1: How do predators get in and mate your children on
22:35
Speaker 1: for instance, Minecraft, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok? How does it work?
22:41
Speaker 1: To Tanya Oh, Nancy, We would need hours, but I'll
22:45
Speaker 1: try to make it as concise as possible. I'll start
22:48
Speaker 1: with Snapchat. I don't know if parents know, but within
22:52
Speaker 1: the Snapchat Act that lives on their children's phones, there's
22:55
Speaker 1: something called a snap mat And if your child has
22:59
Speaker 1: these setting enabled, which sometimes can be default public, you
23:05
Speaker 1: zoom in and you see exactly where your child is
23:07
Speaker 1: in the moment, so much so that as you zoom in,
23:10
Speaker 1: you can see satellite imagery of what color the house is,
23:14
Speaker 1: does the house of a pool in the background, what
23:16
Speaker 1: familiar landmarks are nearby? It is that detailed on gaming platforms.
23:21
Speaker 1: And you know this hits home because my son, who
23:24
Speaker 1: is not even a teenager yet, has been contacted by
23:28
Speaker 1: a predator on PS four while he was playing Fortnite,
23:31
Speaker 1: So it is there. Wow wow wow wait wait wait
23:34
Speaker 1: wait did you just just hear PS four? Did I
23:38
Speaker 1: hear that? Ye? Well, okay, what happened when your son
23:41
Speaker 1: was contacted by our predator? I want to know? Well,
23:43
Speaker 1: thank god, I had had multiple ongoing, candid conversations with
23:48
Speaker 1: him about what you do and don't share online, And
23:50
Speaker 1: cut to the chase. You don't share much. We like
23:53
Speaker 1: to call it PII, personally identifiable information. You don't share
23:57
Speaker 1: your name, where you live, where you go to school,
24:00
Speaker 1: even what your interests are, and so thankfully, and he
24:04
Speaker 1: knew better. And he told me, said, Mom, someone came
24:07
Speaker 1: to me and asked me for my name and where
24:09
Speaker 1: I lived and where I went to school. And I
24:11
Speaker 1: just told them my name was butt Head and I
24:14
Speaker 1: lived on Mars, and you know, and I was just like, oh,
24:17
Speaker 1: thank you, thank God that I had talked to him.
24:20
Speaker 1: But so many children are lonely or don't know better,
24:25
Speaker 1: or their parents have not been comfortable enough with having
24:27
Speaker 1: those conversations with them to let them know that these
24:32
Speaker 1: people who you might think are your friends, who might
24:34
Speaker 1: think are your same age online are actually adults with
24:38
Speaker 1: bad intentions. You know, when my son Lucy's not as
24:43
Speaker 1: interested in games online as my son is, his rulist.
24:47
Speaker 1: He can only play with people he knows. I go
24:51
Speaker 1: in at the start of every game and I hear
24:53
Speaker 1: I say, oh, who are you playing with? And they're
24:55
Speaker 1: actually talking to each other. I can hear them and
24:58
Speaker 1: I speak to them. When he has played with people
25:02
Speaker 1: he doesn't know, he's not allowed to speak, he can't
25:07
Speaker 1: talk out loud. They can just play games and they
25:11
Speaker 1: know not to give out identifying information. But still their children, yep,
25:16
Speaker 1: they don't know. I hear Rich was talking jumping in
25:20
Speaker 1: Jump in Detective. So when I teach my students, I
25:24
Speaker 1: empower them not to be victims. And the first thing
25:27
Speaker 1: that I tell them when we start and when I
25:28
Speaker 1: give them all of these tools, how I'm not to
25:30
Speaker 1: be victimized is that when someone tries to take you
25:33
Speaker 1: off of your gaming platform or private chat, they are
25:36
Speaker 1: not who they say they are, because they will take
25:37
Speaker 1: them to kick they will take them to WhatsApp, they
25:40
Speaker 1: will take them to Skype. And what happens is when
25:43
Speaker 1: I give them that red flag because if they have
25:45
Speaker 1: something to say, when not to say it on the game. Well,
25:47
Speaker 1: here's the reason why predators take them off of the
25:50
Speaker 1: game to go to private chat. The National CENTIM is
25:53
Speaker 1: seeing expoiled children, and every gaming platform in the US,
25:57
Speaker 1: every cloud service in the US, and everything and go.
26:00
Speaker 1: Social network communions has a program that's running in the
26:02
Speaker 1: background monitoring chat and images going back and forth to
26:07
Speaker 1: minor accounts. When something is inappropriate and it's flagged by
26:12
Speaker 1: this program, the security agent at the social networker gaming
26:15
Speaker 1: platform will report it to the National Center of Missing
26:18
Speaker 1: Exploited Children, where they will do a background investigation on it,
26:22
Speaker 1: and awesome law enforcement will get there from the National
26:25
Speaker 1: Center and they we will give something called a CYBERTIP.
26:30
Speaker 1: Now they give us all the information. They give us
26:32
Speaker 1: the ips, the emails, the telephone numbers of the suspect
26:36
Speaker 1: or whoever made that account, and it's our job to
26:38
Speaker 1: investigate on why this person is grooming or sexually exploiting
26:42
Speaker 1: children on the game. Predators know this, so if they
26:46
Speaker 1: can take the child off of the off of the
26:49
Speaker 1: gaming platform to private chat. Kick was in Canada, these
26:53
Speaker 1: other chat platforms that are out of the country where
26:55
Speaker 1: that program is not running, they know they're not going
26:57
Speaker 1: to get caught. And when you have parents things to
27:00
Speaker 1: themselves like I would never behind my ten year old
27:03
Speaker 1: to cell phone. She's too young, she only has an iPad.
27:07
Speaker 1: It's the same same parents. So predators know that these
27:12
Speaker 1: programs running into background. Predators know that they can get
27:15
Speaker 1: to kid on an iPad or a PS four. Nobody's
27:18
Speaker 1: watching that. In addition to that, a lot of the
27:24
Speaker 1: platforms that they're trying to get the kids onto feature
27:28
Speaker 1: end to end encryption and so therefore a kick the
27:32
Speaker 1: kick servers actually don't persist the messages and so Therefore,
27:37
Speaker 1: it's relatively safe for a predator to have those kinds
27:40
Speaker 1: of communications with the child because there's no there's nothing
27:43
Speaker 1: in the middle that can intercept that we at bar
27:45
Speaker 1: to do monitor kick on the device and so therefore
27:49
Speaker 1: we can pick it up after, you know, from the
27:51
Speaker 1: child's device. But the kind of things that detectives Docing
27:54
Speaker 1: was talking about don't exist on kind of into encrypted platforms,
27:57
Speaker 1: which is why predators really favor those crime stories. With
28:13
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, we are talking to Tatania Jordan. Brian Basin,
28:19
Speaker 1: doctor Free has a detective Rich was stocky. Your children
28:24
Speaker 1: are being targeted on TikTok, musical, Instagram, Snapchat, Fortnite Minecraft.
28:33
Speaker 1: How does it happen? Explain to me to Tanya Jordan.
28:37
Speaker 1: When my children are making TikTok's and what that is
28:41
Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know, they make a
28:43
Speaker 1: twenty a thirty second little video and they're singing or
28:48
Speaker 1: they're doing a rap, their lip syncing. It's the big
28:53
Speaker 1: rage right now. How does a predator reach your child,
28:56
Speaker 1: Tatania through TikTok? Oh, my goodness, it really is all
29:00
Speaker 1: the rage right now. It's a very entertaining app and
29:03
Speaker 1: because of that. If predators know your children are there,
29:06
Speaker 1: that's where they're going. And so to answer your question,
29:08
Speaker 1: they'll engage with your child's account. They will follow your
29:12
Speaker 1: child's account, they will comment on your child's video, praising them,
29:17
Speaker 1: grooming them, giving them confidence and validation. And then they'll
29:22
Speaker 1: ask to move the conversation to apps like the ones
29:25
Speaker 1: Brian mentioned, Kick and Whatsappen, others where they can take
29:30
Speaker 1: the conversation somewhere else. Predators go so far as to
29:35
Speaker 1: reward children. They will offer them, you know, to venmo them,
29:39
Speaker 1: or use bitcoin, even in exchange for performances. It's really,
29:46
Speaker 1: really sick, and it's pervasive. Take a listen to our
29:50
Speaker 1: friends at WSOCTV Alison Latos Lawrence reveal the level of
29:56
Speaker 1: abuse Charlatein endured while being held captive in Georgia for
30:00
Speaker 1: more than a year. The documents day that Michael Weislovsky
30:04
Speaker 1: can find Haley Burns in an upstairs bedroom of his
30:06
Speaker 1: Duluth home, telling her that she would be arrested if
30:10
Speaker 1: she left. Wislovski reportedly controlled every aspect of his seventeen
30:15
Speaker 1: year old captain's life, keeping a food journal detailing how
30:18
Speaker 1: many calories she'd eaten each day, and withholding food from
30:22
Speaker 1: Haley if he thought she'd eaten too many calories the
30:26
Speaker 1: day before. Doctors at the Atlanta Hospital who examined Haley
30:29
Speaker 1: after she was rescued, determined she was suffering from malnutrition,
30:33
Speaker 1: According to Warrens. Her parents told Channel nine she lost
30:37
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty pounds. Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine
30:41
Speaker 1: home in May of twenty sixteen. This past weekend, the
30:45
Speaker 1: FBI responded to a tip and tracked her to a
30:48
Speaker 1: home in Georgia. Michael Wisulovsky is in jail under no
30:52
Speaker 1: bond on a number of state charges. After speaking to
30:55
Speaker 1: her parents, I learned that Haley was on one extreme
30:59
Speaker 1: diet after the next. This little girl was manipulated by
31:04
Speaker 1: this predator in a weight loss or anorexia chat room.
31:08
Speaker 1: He then kidnapped her, this little girl, holding her a
31:12
Speaker 1: sex slafe for months and months. She was saved. She
31:19
Speaker 1: was extricated alive. But listen to this. An eleven year
31:24
Speaker 1: old driver on a three hour trip pulls over randomly
31:28
Speaker 1: into a restaurant parking lot early Monday morning. A police
31:31
Speaker 1: cruiser is there and he needed help and officer Braun
31:35
Speaker 1: was in the right place at the right time, and
31:38
Speaker 1: that's possibly what saved this young man's life, says Charleston
31:41
Speaker 1: Police Chief Luther Reynolds. Able to find out why he
31:44
Speaker 1: was in Charleston, where he was from, where he was
31:47
Speaker 1: supposed to be an officer on night duty, the eleven
31:50
Speaker 1: year old pulls in within a minute, the officer gets
31:53
Speaker 1: out to investigate. The boy shakes hands with the officer.
31:57
Speaker 1: Within twenty three minutes from the initial meeting, the child
32:00
Speaker 1: gets into the cruiser. The boy told police he was
32:03
Speaker 1: from Simpsonville. He said he took his brother's car and
32:06
Speaker 1: drove two hundred miles to meet a man from Snapchat.
32:09
Speaker 1: He said he was going to live with him. Drove
32:11
Speaker 1: two hundred miles and his family's car two hundred miles.
32:16
Speaker 1: An eleven year old little boy, through the grace of God,
32:21
Speaker 1: just randomly pulls into a restaurant parking a lot where
32:24
Speaker 1: a nightshift caught happened to have just pulled over and
32:28
Speaker 1: sees nobody behind the wheel of a driving car and
32:31
Speaker 1: specs and finds an eleven year old little boy there
32:34
Speaker 1: on his way to the home of a grown man
32:37
Speaker 1: he meets on Snapchat. His life would have either been
32:42
Speaker 1: lost or forever forever ruined if he had made it
32:47
Speaker 1: to that home. It's stunning to me to rich with Stocky.
32:52
Speaker 1: Here's my message. You think it'll never happen to you, right,
32:57
Speaker 1: But the reason I'm playing all the story. Everyone's a
33:00
Speaker 1: different story. These are families, our parents, just like us,
33:05
Speaker 1: whose children are taken, and Lord, it is happening all
33:09
Speaker 1: around us. Absolutely. For the past two months, I've been
33:14
Speaker 1: teaching in three different states. I've messed the taught at
33:17
Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen schools. Six of the schools that I
33:20
Speaker 1: taught in. When I empower these kids on not to
33:22
Speaker 1: be victims, I've had six kids come forward as victims.
33:26
Speaker 1: And it's all due to sextortion. When these kids get sextorted,
33:30
Speaker 1: they think they're talking to somebody that they know and
33:33
Speaker 1: trusted because they played on their games, and then they
33:35
Speaker 1: take them over to a private platform and then they
33:38
Speaker 1: get they send pictures to them, and the common denominator
33:41
Speaker 1: in every single sextortion case, you will see that the
33:44
Speaker 1: predator types the kid. You owe me one pick when
33:48
Speaker 1: after them, as they got it from someone else. But
33:50
Speaker 1: once the child falls into that, you owe me one pick.
33:53
Speaker 1: So I tell kids, if anybody types to you, you
33:55
Speaker 1: owe me one pick. You're about to be a victim
33:57
Speaker 1: of sixtortion. So we give them these rules and tools
34:00
Speaker 1: because when we see a kid running out of my
34:03
Speaker 1: presentation crying because of what I just explained is now
34:06
Speaker 1: happening to them, it doesn't happen somewhere else. And parents
34:10
Speaker 1: infuriate me that when something happens in school and the
34:15
Speaker 1: school has us come and do the presentations, out of
34:18
Speaker 1: a thousand kids going to that school, ten parents will
34:21
Speaker 1: show up because my kid would never do that. So
34:25
Speaker 1: it's so important to make parents get this education. But
34:28
Speaker 1: it's you know, really, Detective was Stocky. It's not about
34:31
Speaker 1: my kid wouldn't do that. It's about the predator. The
34:35
Speaker 1: predator doesn't know if your child is an angel or
34:38
Speaker 1: a little devil. They have no idea who they're talking to.
34:42
Speaker 1: They just glean information online. But the parent is Yeah,
34:46
Speaker 1: but the parent is responsible for their kids technology all
34:49
Speaker 1: the way up until they're eighteen. The parent owns the phone. Well,
34:52
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is not that, that's not what I'm saying.
34:54
Speaker 1: I'm saying parents saying, oh, my child would never Well,
34:56
Speaker 1: it's not the child really doing it. It's the predator.
35:00
Speaker 1: They goes after the child, regardless of who or what
35:04
Speaker 1: the child is. And it's not just predators online that
35:10
Speaker 1: are targeting your children. Listen, it says, if someone took
35:14
Speaker 1: a baseball bat and shattered their world. That's how Mallory's
35:17
Speaker 1: mother describes their grief. In the last seven weeks since
35:20
Speaker 1: their daughter's death, she faced bullying here at Copeland Middle
35:23
Speaker 1: School from fellow classmates, but online on social media. Her
35:27
Speaker 1: parents say it turned vile and now they're suing the
35:30
Speaker 1: school district. Cheerful and charitable, that's how Seth and Diane
35:35
Speaker 1: Grossman remember their daughter, Mallory. We're not at good days
35:38
Speaker 1: and bad days, yet we're still at good moments and
35:40
Speaker 1: bad moments. Mallory took her own life on June fourteenth.
35:45
Speaker 1: For months, she was told she's a loser, she had
35:49
Speaker 1: no friends, and finally she was even told why don't
35:53
Speaker 1: you kill yourself. Her parents knew their bright twelve year
35:56
Speaker 1: old was bothered by bullying. They say school officials did
35:58
Speaker 1: too to be accountability so this doesn't happen again. And
36:02
Speaker 1: right now it seems to be a laughter that everybody
36:04
Speaker 1: wants to sweep it under the rug. They were told
36:06
Speaker 1: they stuck their head in the sand, and they ignored
36:09
Speaker 1: month after month of complaints. You are hearing NBC four
36:15
Speaker 1: New York reporter John Candler and to Tanya Jordan at
36:20
Speaker 1: BARK the bullying. This is one of mini child suicides
36:28
Speaker 1: I've covered and reported on because they were bullied online. Nancy,
36:34
Speaker 1: I want to share some hard hitting data with every
36:37
Speaker 1: parent listening because they need to know that it absolutely
36:41
Speaker 1: can and potentially will happen to their child. When I
36:44
Speaker 1: talk about cyber bulling, mental health, sexual contents, and violence.
36:48
Speaker 1: So cyber bulling per our data at BARK, We've analyzed
36:52
Speaker 1: billions of messages across children's social media, text messages and
36:56
Speaker 1: email on both their personal devices accounts and school issue
37:00
Speaker 1: an accounts. So this is our data that we have
37:03
Speaker 1: firsthand data. Sixty two point two percent of tweens and
37:07
Speaker 1: seventy point five percent of teams experienced cyberbulling, either it's
37:10
Speaker 1: a fully victim or witness that wasn't. Twenty eighteen, We're
37:14
Speaker 1: about to release our twenty nineteen numbers, and I think
37:17
Speaker 1: it's going to be even more staggering. From a sexual
37:20
Speaker 1: content and sexting standpoint that really is eye opening the parents.
37:24
Speaker 1: Fifty five point nine percent of tweens that's children under
37:28
Speaker 1: the age of thirteen and seventy two point one percent
37:31
Speaker 1: of teams encountered nudity or content of a sexual nature. Parents.
37:36
Speaker 1: If you don't know this, you should. Sexting is the
37:39
Speaker 1: new first base. It just is. From a self harm
37:43
Speaker 1: and su a side standpoint, twenty three point one percent
37:46
Speaker 1: of tweens and thirty five point nine percent of teams
37:50
Speaker 1: were involved with a self harm or suicidal situation. At BARK,
37:54
Speaker 1: we have alerted parents in schools and law enforcement to
37:58
Speaker 1: over twenty one thousand incidents of severe self harm and
38:02
Speaker 1: this is in children. So please parents, if you do
38:05
Speaker 1: not think that this is happening to your children, you
38:08
Speaker 1: need to think again and you need to have those
38:10
Speaker 1: incredibly difficult but important conversations with that to doctor Free
38:14
Speaker 1: has way in Oh my gosh, she Tatanya is spot
38:17
Speaker 1: on on all of those numbers, because even with respect
38:21
Speaker 1: of cyber bullying, the Pew Research Center is saying that
38:24
Speaker 1: it's approximately fifty nine percent of teens that are cyber bullied,
38:28
Speaker 1: so that number is definitely spot on. And with respect
38:31
Speaker 1: of self harm, and suicide. The numbers are mind bogglingly horrific.
38:36
Speaker 1: So we now know that one in four teen girls
38:39
Speaker 1: and one in ten teen boys are participating in some
38:44
Speaker 1: form of self harm, whether that be cutting, burning, disordered eating,
38:48
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. A lot of this they're seeing online.
38:52
Speaker 1: I'll back up just a little bit to say that
38:54
Speaker 1: you put on the post about Diane Grossman and her
38:57
Speaker 1: daughter Mallory. I personally know Diane growth and I speak
39:00
Speaker 1: to her actually quite often because we do a lot
39:03
Speaker 1: of things within the same circles, so I have a
39:06
Speaker 1: lot of insight on the cyber bulling from her part.
39:08
Speaker 1: And then I also speak to Molly Russell's father. Molly
39:13
Speaker 1: Russell was a girl who died by suicide at the
39:16
Speaker 1: age of twelve back in two thousand and seventeen, and
39:19
Speaker 1: that was due to seeing all self harm and suicide
39:22
Speaker 1: content on the internet. So I am getting personal stories
39:26
Speaker 1: from people who have experienced it, and I'm also seeing
39:29
Speaker 1: increased numbers of self harm and suicidal ideation in my
39:33
Speaker 1: pediatric emergency department, as are many of my colleagues across
39:37
Speaker 1: the country. Just to give some staggering numbers on this,
39:42
Speaker 1: there's a recent study that was done by Jamma Pediatrics,
39:46
Speaker 1: which is a fantastic journal, and it showed that children
39:49
Speaker 1: presenting to emergency departments with a diagnosis of suicidal ideation
39:53
Speaker 1: or suicide attempt has increased from five hundred and eighty
39:56
Speaker 1: thousand in twenty seventeen to one point one two million
40:00
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, and it's expected that has increased since
40:03
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen. We just don't have the numbers
40:05
Speaker 1: yet to twofold increase in ten years of kids that
40:09
Speaker 1: are thinking about suicide or trying to kill themselves, and
40:14
Speaker 1: to even keep that the numbers going, and the importance
40:18
Speaker 1: of knowing this that these numbers are between ten and
40:21
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, So we're looking at kids between ten
40:23
Speaker 1: and eighteen years old, where they have the second leading
40:26
Speaker 1: clause of death. But in this survey they actually looked
40:29
Speaker 1: down to five years old, and forty three percent of
40:34
Speaker 1: that one point one two million children who presented to
40:36
Speaker 1: the er for suicidal ideation or suicide attempts were under
40:40
Speaker 1: eleven and as young as five. Forty three percent of
40:43
Speaker 1: one point one two million children, and that's a twofold
40:47
Speaker 1: increase in the last ten years. To Detective Rich was Stocky,
40:50
Speaker 1: child crime expert, the president of base. You're consulting Rich
40:56
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? So the issue is again that
41:00
Speaker 1: you know, I've just handled a case where two ten
41:03
Speaker 1: year olds, one thought it was funny to talk to
41:05
Speaker 1: the other girl into committing suicide over snatch at ten
41:08
Speaker 1: years old. So let's let's take this a step further.
41:13
Speaker 1: How how are we going to combat this? We are
41:15
Speaker 1: all experts in this field. How are we going to
41:18
Speaker 1: combat How are we going to help this situation? Well,
41:22
Speaker 1: you need to train faculty, right when a kid discloses.
41:24
Speaker 1: You've heard it in your clip that schools are being
41:26
Speaker 1: blamed for this, Okay, because they went to them, but
41:30
Speaker 1: if they don't have the tools on what to do,
41:31
Speaker 1: what to collect. So when I when I talk to
41:34
Speaker 1: my schools, they had to take screen captures of everything,
41:36
Speaker 1: get the user ID, write out of written statement, put
41:39
Speaker 1: everything in a flash drive, get the screen capture the profile.
41:43
Speaker 1: Granted this evidence, but the secondary problem not only the
41:46
Speaker 1: schools don't know what to do when we try to
41:48
Speaker 1: find out who the perpetrator is. A lot of law
41:51
Speaker 1: enfortunateencies are not trained in social media investigations, so they
41:56
Speaker 1: will actually victimize the victim twice and then they will
42:00
Speaker 1: say sex storation, lady, that's not even a crime. Hey,
42:03
Speaker 1: if you want me to take this report, I'm gonna
42:05
Speaker 1: have to rest your daughter too. You still want to report.
42:07
Speaker 1: And these are the things that law enforcement comes up
42:09
Speaker 1: with so they don't have to take a report. So
42:12
Speaker 1: we try in the eye Cack And what I do
42:14
Speaker 1: is that we try to train law enforcement that if
42:17
Speaker 1: you're not taking these reports, you're adding to the predators
42:20
Speaker 1: success and more kids are going to be victimized. What
42:23
Speaker 1: can parents at home do? Detective Rich was talking to
42:26
Speaker 1: help for children, So first off, it starts with tysnology talk,
42:30
Speaker 1: telling them that there's no system as privacy for children,
42:33
Speaker 1: telling them that this is my phone that you're using,
42:36
Speaker 1: having the technology talk with them and showing them, look,
42:39
Speaker 1: this is my phone that I'm allowing you to use,
42:41
Speaker 1: and if your grades are going from ads to days,
42:45
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check. And using systems like Bark is absolutely
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Speaker 1: fabulous them. But the parent must help child that they're monitoring,
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Speaker 1: because if you don't tell a child, you're gonna break
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Speaker 1: the trust between childs and parents. And Bark does a
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Speaker 1: fantastic job into introducing this. I created a platform called
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Speaker 1: Cyberparenting dash one on one dot com where parents can
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Speaker 1: take an online class on how to be a cyber
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Speaker 1: safe parent. And it's so important for parents to know
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Speaker 1: how prectors can get to their kids through gaming platforms.
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Speaker 1: We show them how to use bark, We show them
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Speaker 1: that what the technology conversations should be, the golden ticket
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Speaker 1: conversations should be that to most parents, how this is
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Speaker 1: how their parents and technology. If you get out the pictures,
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Speaker 1: if you do this, if you do that, you're going
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Speaker 1: to be grounded, you're going to be phone ticket, or
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Speaker 1: you're not going to be with your friends. If the
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Speaker 1: child going to come to the parent when they're threatened
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Speaker 1: in the compliance, absolutely not so when the parents have
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Speaker 1: to have the technology top that. If something somebody wants
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Speaker 1: makes you feel bad about yourself or does make you
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Speaker 1: do something you don't want to do, you need to
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Speaker 1: come to us. If you come to us, we're going
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Speaker 1: to give you that golden ticket, and there's not going
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Speaker 1: to be any consequences because we have to find out
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Speaker 1: who's doing this to you. And if they're doing it
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Speaker 1: to you, they're doing it pretend to any thirty other
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Speaker 1: kids all over the world. So you have situations like
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Speaker 1: Amanda Todd where she committed to the night after she
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Speaker 1: was ex stored in and thank god for Emily Vasher.
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Speaker 1: It's at Facebook who who took that bull by the horns?
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Speaker 1: And we found out who the who the predator was
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Speaker 1: he was doing at the tense one the other kids
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Speaker 1: all the same time, who was doing it through amandatal.
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Speaker 1: So again, parents need to be vigilant. They need to
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Speaker 1: have the technology talk with their kids. They have to
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Speaker 1: use Bark, and they have to be able to see
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Speaker 1: that picture of yes, my kid is a good kid,
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Speaker 1: but it's not that my kid would do something. There's
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Speaker 1: so many other predators out there that would make my
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Speaker 1: kids feel bad about themselves and we need to find
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Speaker 1: out who it is exactly exactly to Tanya Jordan's CMO Bark,
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Speaker 1: Brian bas And, CEO of Bark, a tech expert and
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Speaker 1: even when I asked you howes Bart work, I still
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Speaker 1: don't know what you said, but I do know this
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Speaker 1: it works. To doctor free Hess, pediatric emergency medicine specialist,
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Speaker 1: child safety expert, founder of pattymom dot com and the
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Speaker 1: Pettymom podcast. Detective Rich was Stocky child crime expert President,
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Speaker 1: be sure consulting. Thank you for being with us, and
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Speaker 1: if we reach even one parent, our time is well spent.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Stories signing off and as I go,
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Speaker 1: I want to stop crime. I want to save children.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to just report on crimes that have
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Speaker 1: already occurred. There's nothing we can do about it. Help us,
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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend