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Interview: Oregon DC Chris Hampton, Nebraska NIL Ruling, Steve Sarkisian, Brian Kelly, USC-Notre Dame · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Oregon's defensive coordinator Chris Hampton is
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Speaker 1: in the building today. Whether you're an Oregon fan or
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Speaker 1: an Oregon hater, you're gonna get some insights. I have
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Speaker 1: to explain to you what happened with the College Sports
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Speaker 1: Commission and Nebraska because this is the biggest ruling surrounding
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Speaker 1: NIL that has happened since NIL came into existence. Every
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Speaker 1: single big school is going to be affected by this,
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Speaker 1: and you need to understand what's going on. Former head
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Speaker 1: coach Brian Kelly, he believes AI Innovation is going to
0:32
Speaker 1: prepare him for his next job. And I'm gonna tell
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Speaker 1: you why we're all looking with the sideye right now,
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Speaker 1: USC and Notre Dame they're talking about restarting their series,
0:41
Speaker 1: putting it back to the way it was, but not
0:43
Speaker 1: so fast. More details there. The best running back in
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Speaker 1: college football that's returning this year, Ahmad Hardy from Missouri,
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Speaker 1: was shot and we got details because three of his
0:54
Speaker 1: former teammates got arrested for the shooting. Ryan Day, head
0:58
Speaker 1: coach at Ohio State. His son RJ has committed to Northwestern.
1:02
Speaker 1: Some details on that and why this kid might actually
1:06
Speaker 1: end up at Ohio State and Deeve Sarkisian head coach
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Speaker 1: at Texas. He goes off on college football. He said
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Speaker 1: some great things, he said some bad things, and we
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Speaker 1: are going to examine it all here on the show.
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Speaker 1: who needs to hear this. Let's get to it. We're
1:40
Speaker 1: gonna start where we always start. The best thing that
1:42
Speaker 1: I saw today at forty five years old, I should
1:45
Speaker 1: be above this, right, I am not.
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Speaker 2: Whatever?
2:02
Speaker 1: So I showed this to my kids and they were like, Dad,
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Speaker 1: that sounds like you in the morning. And then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden it wasn't so funny. Let's get down
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Speaker 1: the business. The College Sports Commission versus Nebraska is the
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Speaker 1: biggest ruling in NIL since NIL was even invented. The
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Speaker 1: College Sports Commission, if you don't remember, was first NCAA
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Speaker 1: versus the House Settlement. The College Sports Commission is supposed
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Speaker 1: to police that, and they created NIL go to approve
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Speaker 1: the deals and so there's the backstory. So the College
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Speaker 1: Sports Commission has then refused to approve the deals of
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Speaker 1: eighteen Nebraska football players, with their justification being at Playfly Sports,
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Speaker 1: which is the same as liar Field, which you've heard
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Speaker 1: me talk about, which is a multi media rights company
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Speaker 1: that has partnerships with Nebraska and dozens of other athletic departments,
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Speaker 1: and when you add in liar Field, it is way
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Speaker 1: way more across the country. Well, they were attempting to
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Speaker 1: compensate Nebraska's players through what they call quote unquote warehouse.
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Speaker 1: That's when a company purchases an athletes nil rights without
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Speaker 1: having secured a specific brand deal for the athlete or
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Speaker 1: services that they must perform. These high school students are
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Speaker 1: then signing and college players are signing deals for inflated money,
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Speaker 1: and the brands are essentially taking money that they would
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Speaker 1: have given to the school and redirecting it to the
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Speaker 1: players to go over the cap. So these are just
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Speaker 1: fake deals. So then Nebraska, after the deals didn't get approved,
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Speaker 1: they took the CSC to court because if they can't
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Speaker 1: perform on their deals, then that creates a problem because
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Speaker 1: they've promised money to players. Now football rosters, they are
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Speaker 1: clearly climbing. They're well over thirty million dollars for a
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Speaker 1: lot of them, and then men's basketball rosters over fifteen million,
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Speaker 1: and it is all while the cap is coming in
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Speaker 1: this year at twenty one point three million dollars per
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Speaker 1: school for the entire athletic department. MAV don't MAV right.
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Speaker 1: So the College Sports Commission then had to argue in
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Speaker 1: front of an arbitrator that they denied the Nebraska players
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Speaker 1: deals because it considers Playfly and associated entity of the school,
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Speaker 1: which is much like an NIL collective. Now here's where
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Speaker 1: it gets even more juicy. Attorneys for the players, which
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Speaker 1: you have to assume are being compensated by either Nebraska
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Speaker 1: affiliates or Playfly affiliatees, that they must have anticipated this
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Speaker 1: possible loss because they believe that this CSEC win is
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Speaker 1: only temporary because twenty one deals have been consolidated into
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Speaker 1: three other pending arbitration cases. The CSC has to defend
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Speaker 1: this time and time and time and time again. But
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Speaker 1: I thought you wanted a cap exactly. There are already
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Speaker 1: at least two more schools because you got Georgia and
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Speaker 1: an unknown secondary university that are pursuing similar challenges against
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Speaker 1: the system for their rejected deals, and you got more
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Speaker 1: than a dozen universities also exploring whether to begin the
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Speaker 1: arbitration process too, because they're not able to play the
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Speaker 1: players what they promised. So this is not just an
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Speaker 1: issue for one school or two schools. This will affect
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Speaker 1: the Georgia's, the Oregons, the Ohio States, the LSUS with
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Speaker 1: liar Field, and so many other schools. This is not
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Speaker 1: going away. I'm telling you this right now. Then you
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Speaker 1: add in how much the Nebraska arbitration costs the CSC
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Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in legal fees. That's
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Speaker 1: just for one case. I just told you that there's
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Speaker 1: possible dozens more starting. So that means who wins the
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Speaker 1: most out of all of this. It's the lawyers, That's
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Speaker 1: the first thing. How can the CSC have enough money
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Speaker 1: to continue to fight all of these cases. It's just
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Speaker 1: like any other legal situation where he who has the
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Speaker 1: most goals and who can wait the other person out
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Speaker 1: usually ends up winning. Millions of dollars that are promised
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Speaker 1: to athletes are at risk right now. The CSC isn't
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Speaker 1: just out here robbing the athletes. They are supposed to
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Speaker 1: be keeping a system in place, which fans say they want,
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Speaker 1: which schools say that they want, and I'm in favor
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Speaker 1: of players getting getting paid, but like we've talked about,
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Speaker 1: there does need to be a salary cap on pay
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Speaker 1: for play, which is what this is, as opposed to nil,
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Speaker 1: which should be unlimited. Now, the CSC they cleared more
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Speaker 1: than fifty five hundred deals worth more than seventy five
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Speaker 1: point eight five million dollars between March first and April thirtieth,
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Speaker 1: just this year alone, and it has cleared twenty six thousand,
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Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty six deals worth a total value
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Speaker 1: of two hundred and forty two million dollars since implementing
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Speaker 1: the system last summer. So the system is working on
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Speaker 1: some level, and the CSC has actually cleared eighty two
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Speaker 1: percent of the deals that have been submitted so far,
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Speaker 1: so they're not trying to rob the kids. They're trying
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Speaker 1: to keep the system in place that will protect college
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Speaker 1: football and college sports in general. But the schools say
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Speaker 1: they want it, but they really don't want it. Y'all
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Speaker 1: hop into comments and tell me what you think about
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Speaker 1: this ruling and what you want to see come out
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Speaker 1: of art. The next thing up, USC and Notre Dame
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Speaker 1: are getting back to playing on the field. I mean
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Speaker 1: maybe sort of right, Well, at least that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: According to USC Beat writer Ryan Cargy, who is reporting
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Speaker 1: that talks have picked back up to renew the Notre
7:19
Speaker 1: Dame in USC robbery, knowing that he's a USC beat writer,
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Speaker 1: that means that this probably came from within the USC administration,
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Speaker 1: which means that all of the fans that have been
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Speaker 1: justifying USC backing out of this game by trying a
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Speaker 1: strong on Notre Dame into changing the traditional date of
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Speaker 1: the game and then make it a week zero game,
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Speaker 1: that they were actually just doing the propaganda dirty work
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Speaker 1: for an administration that doesn't feel the same way that
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Speaker 1: fans do, because fans are upset about this at this point.
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Speaker 1: If you're a USC fan or a college football traditionalist,
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Speaker 1: or anybody who loves the game and loves these robberies
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Speaker 1: and you want Notre Dame back on the schedule, you
8:00
Speaker 1: know that your beef is with Jen Cohen, their athletic director,
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Speaker 1: and their head coach Lincoln Riley, and their own school.
8:06
Speaker 1: They want the college football consuming public and the traditionalists
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Speaker 1: that literally loved this matchup like me, to know that
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Speaker 1: it could be coming back as early as twenty thirty,
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Speaker 1: but they only wanted it between week zero and week three,
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Speaker 1: it appears, which I'm not mad at. I just hate
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Speaker 1: that the twenty six and twenty seven game, which were
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Speaker 1: already scheduled, had to come off the books. But I
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Speaker 1: got a message to USC's administrators and everybody else who
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Speaker 1: had a hand in Notre Dame and USC not playing,
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Speaker 1: who are trying to get it back for twenty thirty.
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Speaker 1: You do not get praise for trying to get this
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Speaker 1: game back on the schedule, because it would be like
8:45
Speaker 1: praising the government for reopening the straighter who moves to
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Speaker 1: oil tankers. We didn't forget how it got closed. It
8:52
Speaker 1: was open to begin with. You do not get a
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Speaker 1: cookie for solving a problem that you created. Next thing up.
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, former head coach at Notre Dame in LSU.
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Speaker 1: He has said he's getting ready for his next head
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Speaker 1: coaching job and he's using AI and Claude to do it.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: Everybody they want to coach in the SEC or the
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Speaker 1: Big ten, but when you fail at the highest level,
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Speaker 1: it is hard to come back. Jimbo Fisher he or
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Speaker 1: had a head coaching job since getting the acts at
9:22
Speaker 1: Texas A and m Matt Luke Dude has been an
9:24
Speaker 1: assistant ever since old misfired him back in twenty nineteen.
9:27
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen, who has success at Mississippi State and some
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Speaker 1: at Florida, he had to go to the Mountain West
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Speaker 1: to redeem his name after Florida cut him loose. And
9:35
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly he knows this, and he sees it, and
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Speaker 1: it seems like he's trying to get ahead. And how's
9:40
Speaker 1: he staying ready the same way of fifteen year old
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Speaker 1: cheats on his essay. He's using AI. Here's what Brian
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Speaker 1: Kelly told USA Today. Every day, I'm trying to do
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Speaker 1: my due diligence using Claude in AI, asking questions to
9:52
Speaker 1: build some of those answers that I think can be
9:54
Speaker 1: helpful for me as I get in front of then
9:57
Speaker 1: athletic director. So you're using AI to get the answers
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Speaker 1: that they want to hear. That still doesn't mean that
10:03
Speaker 1: you know how to do it again. But we are
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Speaker 1: talking about a man that has two hundred wins and
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Speaker 1: we don't care that the NCDA took twenty one of
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Speaker 1: them away. From twenty thirteen to twenty fourteen seasons at
10:14
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. We saw them and they have it. So
10:17
Speaker 1: how is the coach with two hundred wins, with multiple
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Speaker 1: ten win seasons at three different schools, ten Bowl wins,
10:23
Speaker 1: and a national championship appearance, depending on daily use of
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Speaker 1: AI to prep for any and all future college football interviews. Yes,
10:32
Speaker 1: you want to present yourself well. But if I'm an
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Speaker 1: AD and I'm getting just all the perfect answers and
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Speaker 1: it feels like AI to me, that don't mean that
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Speaker 1: you can connect with the kids and understand how to
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Speaker 1: recruit and put a good product on the field. That's
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Speaker 1: the thing that I really want to know. You either
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Speaker 1: have a personal vision for the school you're interviewing with
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Speaker 1: or you don't. Because Brian Kelly might be out here
10:53
Speaker 1: trying to signal that he's modern and you know he's
10:56
Speaker 1: hip to the game and that the game hadn't passed
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Speaker 1: them by, but instead he let the whole college football
11:02
Speaker 1: world know that he needs the aid of artificial intelligence
11:06
Speaker 1: to be able to tell the athletic director at a
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Speaker 1: school like Cincinnati, which actually might open up after this year,
11:11
Speaker 1: here's how to win. Because if coaches are going to
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Speaker 1: be using Claude for things as basic as the interview process,
11:17
Speaker 1: you know, where an athletic director is trying to get
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Speaker 1: to know you and your vision. The schools might as
11:22
Speaker 1: well just hire Claude. Is cheaper and it's got a
11:25
Speaker 1: lot less baggage. But I will say, if he's using
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Speaker 1: Claude to help figure out which accent to put on
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Speaker 1: for the interview, that's a hold different story. That actually
11:33
Speaker 1: might be a great use of his time. In some
11:35
Speaker 1: tough news, Missouri running back Ahmad Hardy has been shot
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Speaker 1: in the leg and three of his former teammates from
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Speaker 1: high school have been arrested in connection with the shooting.
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Speaker 1: Crazy right, feels a little Miami, But it's a little
11:49
Speaker 1: bit different here because it's been an insane offseason from
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Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback Brendan Sowarsby goes down for gambling
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Speaker 1: and now the top returning running back in college football
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Speaker 1: in Missouri. Reason made Hardy. He got shot in the
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Speaker 1: leg at a concert in Louisiana this last weekend at
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Speaker 1: two am. Now that led to the arrest Yes, like
12:09
Speaker 1: I told you, three of his former high school teammates. Now,
12:11
Speaker 1: there is no information known yet about whether this was
12:15
Speaker 1: an accidental shooting or part of a larger scuffle. Now,
12:19
Speaker 1: according to ESPN's Pete Damil and Pete Nacos over at
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Speaker 1: On three that there is optimism that Amar Hardy will
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Speaker 1: play football again. It's just a matter of when and
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Speaker 1: how quickly he can return, and the impact isn't even
12:33
Speaker 1: yet known. But he's alert today and moving forward. But
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Speaker 1: the truth is it could have been a lot worse
12:39
Speaker 1: because some of you might remember when Utah star freshman
12:42
Speaker 1: tdd Jordan accidentally discharged a gun on Christmas that led
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Speaker 1: to him passing away at the age of nineteen. So
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Speaker 1: now for Missouri, they're going to be leaning on Jamal Roberts,
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Speaker 1: who rushed one hundred and twenty four times for seven
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three yards and six touchdowns last season,
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Speaker 1: because he's going to have to shoulder to load while
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Speaker 1: Hardy recovers. But we wish the kid well. Whoever did this,
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Speaker 1: whatever they are responsible for it, that they see the
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Speaker 1: justice that they are supposed to have. Well, wish to kid.
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Speaker 1: Another story that I find interesting Ohio State head coach's son.
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Speaker 1: He commits to Northwestern. You know a position he plays,
13:20
Speaker 1: He plays quarterback, and twenty eight years after coaching Ryan
13:24
Speaker 1: Day at New Hampshire Northwestern OC Ding Ding Ding chip Kelly,
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Speaker 1: who was Ryan daz OC two years ago, is going
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Speaker 1: to be coaching his star pupils son. On to another
13:36
Speaker 1: interesting story, head coach at Ohio State Ryan Day, his
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Speaker 1: son RJ has committed to play quarterback at Northwestern. Very
13:46
Speaker 1: interesting story here because I believe that this is all
13:51
Speaker 1: a setup to get him to Ohio State. So twenty
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Speaker 1: eight years after coaching Ryan Day at New Hampshire Northwestern OC,
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Speaker 1: chip Kelly yes, that chip Kelly is gonna be coaching
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Speaker 1: his star pupils son because chip Kelly the dude won
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Speaker 1: a national championship with Ohio State two years ago as
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Speaker 1: OC before taking a massive bag to run the Las
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Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders last year. Then he moved back to college
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Speaker 1: ranks to coach at Northwestern. If you're Ryan Day, why
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Speaker 1: wouldn't your son just go to Ohio State? Well, here's
14:22
Speaker 1: what Ryan Day said, and ay, if you're not a
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Speaker 1: first or second rounder, then this probably isn't the right
14:27
Speaker 1: place for you. So then you get to thinking, could
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day actually have an ultimate plot twist to have
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Speaker 1: his son prove himself elsewhere before returning to Columbus Because
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Speaker 1: nobody knows better than Ryan Day what it feels like
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Speaker 1: to have people say that you've been handed something that
14:45
Speaker 1: you did not earn and that you were born on
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Speaker 1: third base. RJ is good, but he's only six feet talk.
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Speaker 1: But last year at Saint Francis the Sales, he actually
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Speaker 1: just set the school record for passing in a game
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Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty two yards and the school record
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Speaker 1: for passing yards in a season. Now, Ryan Day, he
15:02
Speaker 1: has come out in favor of players spending at least
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Speaker 1: two years at the first school that they attend, so
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Speaker 1: you already know that he's hoping that his son has
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Speaker 1: multiple years to develop down there in Everston before hitting
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Speaker 1: the transfer portal even becomes an option. Now, think about
15:16
Speaker 1: this as a father, right, if you bring your son
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Speaker 1: to Ohio State and he's not a five star quarterback,
15:23
Speaker 1: even if he was a five star quarterback, how's.
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Speaker 3: That going to look?
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Speaker 1: Oh, did you pass up on all these other recruits
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Speaker 1: to take your son instead? No, So RJ's son, he's
15:32
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking. You heard him saying in an interview
15:35
Speaker 1: that I want to step out on my own, be
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Speaker 1: my own man.
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Speaker 3: All this.
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Speaker 1: So for RJ, it's great because he gets to be
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Speaker 1: in the Chicago area, which is pretty close to Columbus.
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Speaker 1: The family can get from game the game is. Dad
15:48
Speaker 1: can pop in every now and then all those sorts
15:51
Speaker 1: of things. If he needs to. RJ gets to go
15:54
Speaker 1: be his own man, not have the pressure of you know,
15:57
Speaker 1: trying to beat out five star quarterbacks and all of
15:59
Speaker 1: this stuff. May get to play early, go out and
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Speaker 1: play well. Then he has options. He can either stay
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Speaker 1: at Northwestern, go to a different school. But if he's
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Speaker 1: an absolute stud, do you think that there's any chance
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Speaker 1: that we don't see him as a future Buckeye, especially
16:16
Speaker 1: if there's a quarterback opening, or if Ryan Day manufactures
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Speaker 1: a quarterback opening and his kid is a stud, and
16:23
Speaker 1: then you would have Ohio State fans get our j here.
16:27
Speaker 1: But for right now, though, I do believe that there's
16:29
Speaker 1: a non zero chance that we might see Ohio State's
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Speaker 1: head coach dialing up of blitz against his own kid
16:37
Speaker 1: in a conference game. That is crazy to think about,
16:39
Speaker 1: because he knows his kid, he knows how to break
16:41
Speaker 1: his kid, he knows how to build up his kid.
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Speaker 1: Those are crazy thoughts, And as a dad, this is
16:47
Speaker 1: exactly what I would do if I was Ryan day,
16:50
Speaker 1: I would send him off to somebody that I absolutely trust,
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Speaker 1: who's going to believe in him, develop him the way,
16:56
Speaker 1: just in case we're sitting over there like bird man,
16:59
Speaker 1: like come on over here, all right? Lasting up to
17:02
Speaker 1: that Steve starkeysing, is he wrong? He talked to USA
17:06
Speaker 1: Today's Matt Hayes, and the things he said always got
17:10
Speaker 1: the Internet of buzzing today. And here's some of the highlights.
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Speaker 1: When he was talking about schools litigating their way out
17:17
Speaker 1: of compliance when it comes to nil, he said, quote,
17:20
Speaker 1: we all signed up to be part of the NCAA,
17:23
Speaker 1: and then we all allegedly make the rules. Everybody knows
17:27
Speaker 1: the rules right, and then we go to our attorney
17:29
Speaker 1: general and say we don't like that rule. Let's just
17:32
Speaker 1: suit right now. Nobody's afraid of the consequences. He is
17:36
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right, and he's saying the quiet part
17:39
Speaker 1: out loud, and the fact that he's bold enough to
17:41
Speaker 1: say it, good job. Then he talked about the lack
17:44
Speaker 1: of enforcement of the rules. He said, there's a reason
17:47
Speaker 1: in the NFL when you get caught tampering, you get drilled,
17:50
Speaker 1: you lose a draft pick. You don't practice the right way,
17:53
Speaker 1: you lose practice days, coaches get fined. There are a
17:56
Speaker 1: lot of things in place to protect their rules and guardrails.
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Speaker 1: Right now on college football, there's no fear. People do
18:02
Speaker 1: whatever they want. There's none to argue with there. He's
18:05
Speaker 1: telling the truth about everything that he said. Here's where
18:09
Speaker 1: things got off the rails a little bit. He said
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Speaker 1: on schools having different academic transfer requirements, he said, quote,
18:15
Speaker 1: at Texas, we only take fifty percent of a player's
18:19
Speaker 1: academic credit hours. You may be a semester from graduating,
18:22
Speaker 1: but you're going all the way back down to fifty
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Speaker 1: percent if you play here and want a degree.
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Speaker 3: But at Old.
18:28
Speaker 1: Miss they can take you. All you have to do
18:31
Speaker 1: is take basket weaving and you can get no misdegree. Yo.
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Speaker 1: That is too damn far, Sark, because first of all,
18:39
Speaker 1: the fact that if you transfer to Texas that they
18:42
Speaker 1: only take fifty percent of your credits, that's crazy work.
18:46
Speaker 1: And then it also says a lot about the people
18:49
Speaker 1: who would be transferring to Texas. That means that they
18:51
Speaker 1: have no intent on graduating, which that should create a problem.
18:56
Speaker 1: And I got questions for you, Sark. If graduation is
18:59
Speaker 1: not import to you, why are we doing this because
19:02
Speaker 1: you should be trying to build better men and better
19:05
Speaker 1: their futures, even when they're not going to the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Come on, Sark, you missed on this one. Then he
19:10
Speaker 1: talked about the college football Selection Committee. He said, they
19:13
Speaker 1: see the media and coaches polls, they copy them. You've
19:16
Speaker 1: got a twelve team playoff, and that means there are
19:18
Speaker 1: at least thirty teams that impact it. Now, all of
19:21
Speaker 1: a sudden, you want to go to twenty four. Now
19:23
Speaker 1: the polls become an even greater factor because now you're
19:26
Speaker 1: asking the committee to watch forty teams per week, if
19:30
Speaker 1: not fifty. I've been saying this, do you know how
19:33
Speaker 1: hard it is for them to rank twenty five teams already?
19:36
Speaker 1: And then we're sitting here debating about that because it
19:39
Speaker 1: doesn't match up with the heads and heads and everything else.
19:43
Speaker 1: So how are we supposed to do that to get
19:45
Speaker 1: twenty four teams? You're just creating a bigger mess instead
19:49
Speaker 1: of just leaving things how they are or tweaking them
19:52
Speaker 1: a tad bit after a couple of years to going
19:55
Speaker 1: to sixteen. But twenty four is damn sure not the answer.
19:58
Speaker 1: And then he talked about being left out of the
20:00
Speaker 1: CFP last year. He said, quote Mario Cristobaul as a
20:03
Speaker 1: friend of mine, and they had a tremendous season. Miami
20:06
Speaker 1: lost to two unranked teams last year. He's talking about
20:09
Speaker 1: SMU and Louisville, but they were ranked at some point
20:11
Speaker 1: in time of the season, so you know, he said,
20:14
Speaker 1: what would their record have been if they played our schedule?
20:17
Speaker 1: What would our record have been if we played theirs?
20:19
Speaker 1: There's definitely scheduling inequity. He's right about that part. Scheduling
20:23
Speaker 1: inequity that needs to be changed. Eight conference games, three
20:27
Speaker 1: games against the other Power four teams, and then one
20:30
Speaker 1: game you can play whoever you want tournament to get
20:33
Speaker 1: in the playoff. Boom basha, it's over. And then he
20:37
Speaker 1: talked about the twenty four team expansion. I go back
20:39
Speaker 1: to a four team playoff and have your own conference
20:42
Speaker 1: playoffs to get the four teams if you want more
20:45
Speaker 1: inventory for your television partners. I'm actually not upset with that.
20:49
Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't hate that at all. Like a tournament
20:51
Speaker 1: to get into the tournament. It's not bad. On an
20:54
Speaker 1: SEC super league. There's a lot of sentiment for breaking
20:56
Speaker 1: away and having your own rules. That's realistic. You're gonna
20:59
Speaker 1: say or you don't, but if you do, here are
21:02
Speaker 1: our rules, and here's how things are going to work well,
21:05
Speaker 1: exactly the way it should be working in college football.
21:07
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Speaker 1: the show.
22:14
Speaker 2: What is your defensive philosophy?
22:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think three things, execute, basics and toughness.
22:19
Speaker 3: Right.
22:19
Speaker 4: We talked about that about EBT like EBT call right, and.
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Speaker 1: We are on with Oregon's defensive coordinator, Chris Hampton.
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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show man, glad to be here.
22:30
Speaker 1: All right, So you are now the defensive coordinator for
22:32
Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks. Ten years ago did you could you
22:36
Speaker 1: even see yourself in this position?
22:38
Speaker 4: No, it would have been a dream. I have still
22:41
Speaker 4: pinched myself. You know, I'm from Memphis, Tennessee, and you know,
22:44
Speaker 4: it's my first time living on the West coast. Was
22:46
Speaker 4: coming to the University of Oregon. You know, I had
22:47
Speaker 4: never thought about it, and then you know, Coach Landing
22:49
Speaker 4: called and I think I'm going to do. It's the
22:51
Speaker 4: best decision I think I've ever made in my career.
22:53
Speaker 1: A lot of people, especially from the South, they're little
22:55
Speaker 1: little hesitant and like, what is it like out there
22:58
Speaker 1: and out there in Oregon?
22:59
Speaker 2: What did you think? It's been great?
23:01
Speaker 4: You know when I first got here, it was a
23:03
Speaker 4: little cool. It was in a winner. So I came
23:06
Speaker 4: to in the winter months and I was like man
23:08
Speaker 4: and I was a defensive coordinator at Tulane. So when
23:10
Speaker 4: I first came here, I was learning a new defense,
23:13
Speaker 4: learning the new terminology, and it took me about six
23:15
Speaker 4: months really to get comfortable with you. But once I
23:16
Speaker 4: got comfortable understand the scheme, what we were doing, the
23:19
Speaker 4: terminology in the language, the players have been great.
23:21
Speaker 3: You know.
23:21
Speaker 4: It's part of the reason I came here too, is
23:23
Speaker 4: you can attract talent. You can now recruit the best
23:25
Speaker 4: players in the country. That's been fun. You got an
23:27
Speaker 4: opportunity to win every game.
23:28
Speaker 1: What was that decision where you are a defensive coordinator
23:32
Speaker 1: and you decided to take a step back and not
23:34
Speaker 1: be a defensive coordinator.
23:35
Speaker 4: So you know this season at two lane in twenty
23:38
Speaker 4: twenty two, we won the Cotton bo We beat USC,
23:41
Speaker 4: You beat who again USC OK, we beat USC and
23:43
Speaker 4: the coninbo. I had got a phone call and I
23:46
Speaker 4: was kind of a little hesitant at first, and when
23:48
Speaker 4: I was talking to coach Landa, he talked about one
23:50
Speaker 4: of the pillars of the program was growth. And I
23:52
Speaker 4: had really never used that term about a growth mindset,
23:54
Speaker 4: but it resonated with me that I always wanted to
23:56
Speaker 4: go somewhere and learn, and I had had great admiration
23:59
Speaker 4: for him a defensive coordinator. So I was like, you
24:01
Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna go to Oregon. I'm gonna learn,
24:04
Speaker 4: I'm gonna grow, I'm gonna get better. I think this
24:06
Speaker 4: is good for me at this stage of my career.
24:09
Speaker 4: If I was to have the opportunity to be a
24:11
Speaker 4: defensive coordin at the level I'm at now, I want
24:13
Speaker 4: to be prepared. I know there's a lot of things
24:14
Speaker 4: that I could improve on from Tulane, but I didn't
24:16
Speaker 4: know the answers to and so I came in after
24:18
Speaker 4: I got the.
24:18
Speaker 1: Answered being the fact that coach Landing had been in Memphis,
24:22
Speaker 1: did you ask him any questions about like you've been
24:24
Speaker 1: in Memphis, you know where I'm from.
24:27
Speaker 2: Is this is this gonna work for me?
24:29
Speaker 4: No? I really didn't. You know, I knew it would
24:32
Speaker 4: be different. You know, I knew would be different. But
24:34
Speaker 4: but you know, we always talk to the players about
24:35
Speaker 4: growing and get out of the comfort zone. It was
24:37
Speaker 4: definitely outside of my comfort.
24:38
Speaker 1: Zone as a as a player. You were a South
24:41
Speaker 1: Carolina and you had a chance to play against some
24:43
Speaker 1: really good players. How much did your lessons as a
24:46
Speaker 1: player translate into you now as a coach tremendous.
24:50
Speaker 4: You know. I think me playing the position, I'm able to,
24:54
Speaker 4: you know, talk to the guys. I understand some of
24:55
Speaker 4: the things that they're going through, if it's realistic what
24:58
Speaker 4: I'm asking them or not. These guys are much more
25:00
Speaker 4: talent than I were, you know, than I was. And
25:02
Speaker 4: I tell these guys that all the time they can cover.
25:04
Speaker 4: I wasn't a great cover guy. We able to recruit
25:06
Speaker 4: way better players than me. But I think my experience
25:09
Speaker 4: as a player playing a position, I see it through
25:11
Speaker 4: their eyes as a dB and so I think that
25:14
Speaker 4: helps me a tone.
25:15
Speaker 1: So there are defensive coordinators who came up from the front,
25:19
Speaker 1: and then in terms of the defensive line, then guys
25:22
Speaker 1: who were linebacker coaches and guys who were d DB's.
25:26
Speaker 1: What do you think separates it because it seems like
25:28
Speaker 1: the DB's guys kind of have a different level of
25:32
Speaker 1: understanding how the front end marriage to the back end.
25:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:35
Speaker 4: I think what's unique for me is that I never
25:38
Speaker 4: actually GA with DB's when I was when I was
25:41
Speaker 4: a graduate assistant, I was with the defensive line, so
25:43
Speaker 4: I was able to learn front play and then I
25:45
Speaker 4: was able to go from it and I started coaching
25:47
Speaker 4: my own position as a dB coach. But I never
25:49
Speaker 4: actually ga with the position, So that helped me to,
25:51
Speaker 4: I think grow as a coach was starting off there.
25:54
Speaker 4: I started off on offense. Actually, then I went from
25:56
Speaker 4: from wilde receivers to defensive line, and so I think
26:00
Speaker 4: they helped me grow my knowledge of the game.
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Speaker 1: You your fans sometimes say, he never he never played
26:05
Speaker 1: the position, But how important do you think it is?
26:08
Speaker 1: Because I heard coaches talk about how important it is.
26:10
Speaker 1: You said you were a dB, your coached wide receivers,
26:13
Speaker 1: you were on the offense, and then you went back
26:15
Speaker 1: to defense. How important was that offensive time to being
26:18
Speaker 1: a better defensive coordinator.
26:20
Speaker 4: I think it was invaluable. I was able to sit
26:22
Speaker 4: back and learn how those guys thought a lot of times,
26:24
Speaker 4: the defensive coaches you think one way, but then you
26:26
Speaker 4: get with the offense, you think they think completely different.
26:28
Speaker 4: I think another thing that helps us here is Oregon's
26:30
Speaker 4: helped me grow is that we watch all the film
26:32
Speaker 4: together offense defense. We watched us a full staff. Most
26:35
Speaker 4: places don't do that. We do full staff review, and
26:38
Speaker 4: the offense talks about what gives them issues, we talk
26:40
Speaker 4: about what gives us issues. We're able to see their
26:42
Speaker 4: thought process, they see our thought process. There's no secrets
26:46
Speaker 4: and were able to trade ideas each and every day.
26:47
Speaker 4: So I think it helps us as a staff grow.
26:49
Speaker 1: So if you guys are in there, how do you
26:51
Speaker 1: compete at a practice? If they know everything you do
26:55
Speaker 1: and you know everything that they're doing.
26:56
Speaker 4: Definitely inside of trading, you know, so they talk Kyle lingo.
27:00
Speaker 4: We talked their lingo to our players. They know what's coming,
27:04
Speaker 4: you know. Uh, they know the strengths and the weaknesses.
27:05
Speaker 4: But honestly, we're trying to I want to see the
27:07
Speaker 4: hard things. So I tell those guys, you know, what
27:10
Speaker 4: are the issues that that that that were that were
27:13
Speaker 4: calls based off what they do. If there's some things
27:15
Speaker 4: that that they're thinking about doing on on offense, and
27:18
Speaker 4: I know we're gonna kill it, you know, we tell
27:20
Speaker 4: them that's not gonna work, you know, and so there's
27:22
Speaker 4: no need to try to do that. That's not that's
27:23
Speaker 4: not a good idea. And vice versa.
27:25
Speaker 1: What is your defensive philosophy in a nutshell?
27:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think three things execute, basics and toughness. Right,
27:32
Speaker 4: we talked about that about EBT like a EBT right
27:35
Speaker 4: and so execute you know, can we all execute our opponent?
27:38
Speaker 4: You know? Can we do the basics the best? Can
27:40
Speaker 4: we can we get into a great stance? Are we
27:42
Speaker 4: aligned properly? Our eyes on the right key. And then
27:45
Speaker 4: the last piece is toughness. I think the toughest team
27:47
Speaker 4: always wins. We talk about a plus two finished on defense,
27:50
Speaker 4: playing two seconds past the whistle, doing the extra Who.
27:53
Speaker 1: Had been your biggest influences on you in your coaching career.
27:58
Speaker 4: My first biggest influence would be my high scho coach,
28:00
Speaker 4: Kenny Ingram, And I think he just taught me you know,
28:03
Speaker 4: why you coach? You know, it was more about the players,
28:06
Speaker 4: you know, than the scheme. You know. I think he
28:08
Speaker 4: poured into me. I came from a single parent home,
28:10
Speaker 4: and I think he really was tremendous in my upbringing
28:13
Speaker 4: up as a coach, you know, he and he got
28:16
Speaker 4: me into coaching actually as a player. Next day, I'll
28:18
Speaker 4: be a guy named Maurice Harris. He got me hired
28:21
Speaker 4: as my first job. He was my high school coach's
28:22
Speaker 4: best friend and he was at Arrival High School and
28:25
Speaker 4: he called me one day and said, are you interested
28:26
Speaker 4: in coaching? And I went to Arkansas State and I
28:28
Speaker 4: GA and then I think my college def is coordinator.
28:31
Speaker 4: His name is Tyrone Nicks, and we just talk a
28:33
Speaker 4: lot about football. And when I was a young defense
28:35
Speaker 4: coordinator and I didn't have success, you know, he kept
28:38
Speaker 4: me come and talking about some things to do and uh,
28:41
Speaker 4: some way to reach the players.
28:42
Speaker 1: When you're talking about reaching players, like what is your
28:45
Speaker 1: communication style with with with them, whether you're recruiting them
28:49
Speaker 1: or when they get in the buildings, you.
28:50
Speaker 4: Know, I think a lot of times, you know, the
28:51
Speaker 4: players don't care. I'm what you know and tell you
28:53
Speaker 4: know how much you care, right, And so I think
28:55
Speaker 4: these guys, I think they really all know how much
28:57
Speaker 4: I really care about them as people and how much
28:59
Speaker 4: I want to see them reach their ultimate goals and aspirations.
29:03
Speaker 4: So I want to see them have success. I don't
29:04
Speaker 4: have kids. These guys are like my kids. I just
29:07
Speaker 4: try to be direct with them and show them exactly
29:09
Speaker 4: why they came here. You know, when I see them
29:11
Speaker 4: not doing things that aren't gonna make them successful. On Saturday,
29:14
Speaker 4: pointed out, And I'm not trying to manipulate them or
29:18
Speaker 4: anything like that. In any type of way. I wanna
29:20
Speaker 4: be honest with them upfront and just make it black
29:22
Speaker 4: and white. This is the standard, this is not the standard.
29:24
Speaker 4: This is how you will be successful. This is how
29:26
Speaker 4: you will not be successful. And I think, and I
29:28
Speaker 4: also take an ownership whenever I've made a b I've
29:30
Speaker 4: made a mistake. I wasn't right about that. That was
29:32
Speaker 4: a bad call, That's okay. I think the players appreciate
29:35
Speaker 4: that when they know that you're gonna fight with them.
29:37
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you a couple of names,
29:39
Speaker 1: and you give me the first thing that comes to
29:40
Speaker 1: your your your mind.
29:42
Speaker 2: Yep. Brandon Finny.
29:44
Speaker 4: Relentless competitor. I mean, this guy's a competitor each and
29:47
Speaker 4: every day.
29:48
Speaker 3: Uh.
29:48
Speaker 4: He was a guy that had the opportunity to recruit.
29:50
Speaker 4: You know, he's a joy to coach. She is infatuated
29:52
Speaker 4: with the details. Obviously he's extremely talented. But this guy
29:55
Speaker 4: is like a workaholic. You know, he's a no nonsense individual.
29:59
Speaker 4: He wants to get better.
30:00
Speaker 3: You know.
30:00
Speaker 4: I think he's got a lot of accolades, he's got
30:02
Speaker 4: received a lot of praise, but there's really not what
30:04
Speaker 4: he's interested in. He's r he's interest in growth. And Uh,
30:07
Speaker 4: this guy, he's a he's a special young man.
30:09
Speaker 2: Tatum to Eot Junkyard dog.
30:11
Speaker 4: You know, I mean this guy works hard, extremely hard.
30:14
Speaker 4: I mean he doesn't say a whole lot. Obviously his
30:16
Speaker 4: dad as a coach, but he is relentless each and
30:19
Speaker 4: every day. He's the he's the ultimate effort player on
30:21
Speaker 4: the team. Plays harder than everyone. You know, no one's
30:24
Speaker 4: gonna outcompete him, outwork him. He's smart, he's tough, he's
30:28
Speaker 4: very dependable. He's gonna have a long career. Corey Parish talented,
30:32
Speaker 4: he really is man. He's a ball hawk. He's different
30:35
Speaker 4: in dealing thing to him. They're completely different people. He's
30:38
Speaker 4: a ball hawk. He loves football. He wants to get better.
30:41
Speaker 4: That's something that I think I really appreciated about Coy.
30:44
Speaker 4: He's like branding, like he came here on a mission
30:46
Speaker 4: to get better. He wants to improve. He knows he's
30:49
Speaker 4: a good player, but he's knows he's got he knows
30:51
Speaker 4: he has a lot of room for growth. But tal
30:54
Speaker 4: extremely talented, right, and I think he's gonna have his
30:56
Speaker 4: best season this year. He's driven this year. I think
30:58
Speaker 4: he's always been driven, But I think this year he's
31:00
Speaker 4: got something to prove and I can see it in
31:02
Speaker 4: his work at each and every day in the practiceville.
31:04
Speaker 4: He's changed his body. I mean he is first in
31:07
Speaker 4: the conditioning lines. I'm really fired up by my tail.
31:10
Speaker 1: And obviously you guys had a lot of success with
31:13
Speaker 1: Tash as the defensive coordinator. He's now moved on to
31:16
Speaker 1: a CAL. What I guess is the next step in
31:19
Speaker 1: this defense and what do you feel like that you
31:21
Speaker 1: can bring and raise it to the next level.
31:22
Speaker 4: I think Tosh delil tremendous job with us, you know,
31:24
Speaker 4: he did, you know, and you fired up for him
31:26
Speaker 4: at CAL. But I think we can get better. I
31:28
Speaker 4: really do. I think that there's you know, we've been
31:30
Speaker 4: a really good defense, but we haven't been the best.
31:32
Speaker 4: And I think that's the goal is can we be
31:35
Speaker 4: the best?
31:35
Speaker 3: You know?
31:35
Speaker 4: And we're striving for excellence, you know, and we're infatuated
31:38
Speaker 4: with the details and the process and executing each and
31:41
Speaker 4: every day and doing the basics and being the toughest team.
31:44
Speaker 4: And I think if we do those things, we have
31:45
Speaker 4: a lot of talent. I think we can be the best.
31:48
Speaker 1: Can you talk about the influence of Steve Spurrier on you.
31:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Coach Spurrier. The biggest thing with Coach
31:53
Speaker 4: Sperry was no opponent was bigger than the other. Whether
31:56
Speaker 4: we were playing South Carolina State or Clemson, he treated
31:59
Speaker 4: him the same. Yeah, And I think that's something that
32:01
Speaker 4: I really learned from him, was that he didn't make
32:03
Speaker 4: one game bigger than the other. Everybody was the same,
32:06
Speaker 4: you know, and he approached each and every day, each
32:08
Speaker 4: and every opponent with the same intensity.
32:10
Speaker 1: You are from the South, you know. I was born
32:13
Speaker 1: in the South too, and we were formed kind of
32:15
Speaker 1: in the SEC country yep, a little bit so, and
32:18
Speaker 1: you played in SEC country at South Carolina and now
32:22
Speaker 1: you're seeing, oh where, even though it just means more,
32:26
Speaker 1: Big ten is better right now? Last three national champions
32:29
Speaker 1: and then they would tell you, oh, well, listen, we're
32:33
Speaker 1: the toughest conference.
32:34
Speaker 2: We got the most people drafted.
32:35
Speaker 1: I don't know about that no more either, correct, So.
32:37
Speaker 4: I think the tide has kind of changed, man, you know,
32:39
Speaker 4: and you look like you said it's been you know,
32:42
Speaker 4: three national champions in a row from the Big Ten.
32:44
Speaker 4: I think the most players draft last night, like you
32:46
Speaker 4: just said, were from the Big Ten. There was a
32:47
Speaker 4: lot of guys that I was in the green room myself,
32:50
Speaker 4: seen a lot of Big ten players getting drafted. It's
32:52
Speaker 4: a competitive league, you know, it's.
32:54
Speaker 2: Coast to coast, yep.
32:55
Speaker 4: And so this this thing is the closest it gets
32:57
Speaker 4: to the NFL.
32:58
Speaker 2: It definitely is.
33:00
Speaker 1: So I guess, what what does success look like for
33:02
Speaker 1: the defense this year?
33:05
Speaker 4: Success man just us reaching out potential, And I think
33:08
Speaker 4: getting better each and every week, getting better from the
33:10
Speaker 4: spring to the summer, from the summer to the fall,
33:14
Speaker 4: us continue to grow. I think that our younger guys,
33:17
Speaker 4: you know, being strong enough to compete. You know, I
33:19
Speaker 4: think you're only as week as good as your week
33:21
Speaker 4: as link. So I think we've got a lot of defense.
33:23
Speaker 4: We've got a lot of guys back, We've got a
33:24
Speaker 4: lot of youth as well, a lot of the players.
33:26
Speaker 4: So I think that if we've got to develop the
33:28
Speaker 4: younger guys and the new players to be player a
33:31
Speaker 4: championship level.
33:32
Speaker 1: So I always tell people I stand for five things, faith, family, fatherhood,
33:37
Speaker 1: food and sports. Right, And I looked at your bio.
33:41
Speaker 1: You got all of them. You got faith, football, food,
33:47
Speaker 1: and fashion right.
33:49
Speaker 2: So so so.
33:50
Speaker 1: I got a question because coach Landing has a thing,
33:53
Speaker 1: they says, would say no flashlights.
33:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, no blinking lights, yeah, no blinking lights.
33:58
Speaker 1: Okay, So how do you stay in uniform with with
34:01
Speaker 1: with also being being clean as the referees whistle right now?
34:05
Speaker 4: Well, I think that you know, we're Nike school, so
34:07
Speaker 4: it's pretty easy. Kenny Farr is gonna give us nice
34:10
Speaker 4: stuff each and every week. And so I'm going out there.
34:12
Speaker 4: I'm gonn issue gear. You know, once we once we
34:14
Speaker 4: gheit that field, I'll be an issued attired and Kenny
34:17
Speaker 4: Farr gives us the we're fortunate to hear you know
34:19
Speaker 4: these are these are issued Nikes. We get nice stuff.
34:21
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it makes it easy.
34:23
Speaker 4: It makes it easy. This is not a hard place
34:26
Speaker 4: to be to be sharp.
34:27
Speaker 2: All right?
34:28
Speaker 1: Well you guys, he is Chris Hampton, Oregon Ducks defensive coordinator.
34:33
Speaker 1: Good luck this season and put the number one defense
34:35
Speaker 1: in the country out there.
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Speaker 4: Hope I help to do it.
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Speaker 5: Yes, we are on with mister Kentton Gibbs Man covers
34:46
Speaker 5: the acc college football knows it inside and out and
34:51
Speaker 5: it is reister or wrong time, kitting Are you ready
34:55
Speaker 5: to be in the hot seat?
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Speaker 6: Man, I'm a huge fan of this show. So so
34:59
Speaker 6: being the the hot seat is right where I want
35:01
Speaker 6: to be. You know how they say, if you see
35:03
Speaker 6: me getting drug out the club by that five tier,
35:06
Speaker 6: think woman, that's right where I want to be.
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Speaker 3: This right where I want to be. Baby, This right
35:09
Speaker 3: where I want to be.
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Speaker 1: All right. First one up ACC edition of Reister or Wrong.
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Speaker 1: So the twenty twenty five Virginia Cavaliers under Tony Elliott,
35:21
Speaker 1: where eleven and three nearly won the ACC title game.
35:24
Speaker 1: The finished dad last in the twenty twenty six ACC
35:28
Speaker 1: recruiting rankings and outside the top five and transfer portal rankings.
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Speaker 1: Reister or Wrong Virginia was a one hit wonder.
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Speaker 6: Oh that's very Reichster. My mother was a huge Luther
35:40
Speaker 6: Vandroz fan. She cried like a baby when he died.
35:43
Speaker 6: But he came up with a song that's brought up
35:45
Speaker 6: in every college basketball season. One shining moment. Virginia had
35:50
Speaker 6: that one shining moment. I think that they fade back
35:53
Speaker 6: into obscurity. But with all due respect, no coach deserved
35:56
Speaker 6: that moment more than Tony Elliott to go through everything
36:00
Speaker 6: that he's been through with the off the field stuff
36:01
Speaker 6: that he had no control over to go through watching
36:05
Speaker 6: your rivals get one of the biggest investments that we've
36:08
Speaker 6: seen in quite some time, with Virginia Tech getting a
36:10
Speaker 6: nine figure investment. Yes, no coach deserved it more than him.
36:14
Speaker 6: So it was a great Shawnee moment. It was just
36:16
Speaker 6: one shining moment.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta agree with you.
36:19
Speaker 1: There next one up. So Miami lifted two under recruited
36:27
Speaker 1: California high school guys turned college football stars off of
36:31
Speaker 1: Duke's roster last season. Darien Minzer, who was you know
36:36
Speaker 1: at Tulane, Cooper the wide receiver who was originally at Harvard,
36:42
Speaker 1: Riister rail Wrong. The ACC are being massive cowards by
36:46
Speaker 1: not scheduling Duke in Miami to be in the building
36:49
Speaker 1: on the same day at the twenty twenty six ACC
36:53
Speaker 1: media kickoff in Charlotte, Oh Barry.
36:56
Speaker 6: Rights to see you playing all the hits today. This
36:58
Speaker 6: is the type of stuff I liket this the show.
37:01
Speaker 6: This is the type of stuff that ACC could easily Yes,
37:05
Speaker 6: have themselves a little storyline, get themselves a little tip
37:08
Speaker 6: many ds and our boy Mario Cristoball. If there are
37:12
Speaker 6: any two coaches in the league that are willing to
37:14
Speaker 6: mix it up. Dapo's probably the only one that jumps
37:16
Speaker 6: in there with those two in terms of who's the
37:19
Speaker 6: most willing to be adversarial to another coach, and you
37:22
Speaker 6: don't bring them in on the same day. Jim Phillips,
37:25
Speaker 6: it's a layup. Where I come from, they call that
37:28
Speaker 6: smoking the bunny it. They'll get you sent to the bench.
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Speaker 1: Come on, one hundred percent, all right, next one up.
37:35
Speaker 1: So Florida State won twelve or fourteen ACC championships from
37:40
Speaker 1: ninety two to five, three in a row starting in
37:43
Speaker 1: twenty twelve under Jimbo Fisher, but only one in the
37:46
Speaker 1: last eleven years. Am I right? Story or am I wrong?
37:50
Speaker 1: Florida State's best days are behind them and there isn't
37:53
Speaker 1: a coach who can change that.
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Speaker 3: Oh very wrong.
37:57
Speaker 6: See, I knew you was gonna have one curve. I
38:00
Speaker 6: was gonna have to send so hundred to Dad Center.
38:03
Speaker 6: You're very wrong. Florida State is number one in a
38:06
Speaker 6: hot bed of talent in Tallahassee, Florida. You are very
38:10
Speaker 6: near a place where you can go get a ton
38:13
Speaker 6: of great players. Florida's one of those states they play
38:15
Speaker 6: football year round. When you think of who produces great
38:18
Speaker 6: football players. You need a combination of three things. A
38:21
Speaker 6: very high population. Florida has that, whether to play football
38:24
Speaker 6: all year round, Florida has that. And number three, you
38:28
Speaker 6: need the resources to go get those players or keep
38:31
Speaker 6: them in state, build that fence around the state. They're
38:34
Speaker 6: able to have all three of those things. As I believe,
38:36
Speaker 6: Florida State is the biggest alumni base in the state
38:39
Speaker 6: of Florida. So I would say that you're wrong because
38:43
Speaker 6: Florida State is in a position where the right coaching
38:46
Speaker 6: higher in this next higher could instantly send them to
38:50
Speaker 6: another plane. Because think about it this way. Who's the
38:53
Speaker 6: last national championship.
38:54
Speaker 1: Briceter at Florida State, last national No.
38:58
Speaker 6: No, who's the last national time champion? Rather who just
39:01
Speaker 6: won it? Who was just at the White House?
39:03
Speaker 1: Indiana?
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Speaker 3: Indiana know about playing some good football? Nothing?
39:07
Speaker 6: Nothing, That's my point. It's a very different world now.
39:11
Speaker 6: And you combine the fact that one year can take
39:14
Speaker 6: you to a whole nother place with the fact that
39:16
Speaker 6: they got the history, they got bounding, they got at Gimpo,
39:20
Speaker 6: they got Prime, they got Worried, they got all these greats,
39:23
Speaker 6: all these you know, Heisman winners, Jamison Company, all this
39:27
Speaker 6: I had to see them. I had to see them.
39:29
Speaker 3: Now.
39:30
Speaker 6: Fun story. When I was at NC State, I tore
39:32
Speaker 6: my achilles my true freshman year. That was the year
39:34
Speaker 6: that they went underfeed and won the national championship. I
39:36
Speaker 6: got in the shower at kickoff because NC State wasn't
39:39
Speaker 6: very good that year, and by the time I had
39:42
Speaker 6: the little leg thing because you know, when you tear
39:43
Speaker 6: your achilles and all that, you can't get the cast wet.
39:46
Speaker 6: So I had to keep my leg out the shower
39:47
Speaker 6: and maneuver in washing up maler. By the time I
39:50
Speaker 6: got out the shower, it was thirty five zent. Though
39:52
Speaker 6: this team, Florida State's best days are not behind them
39:56
Speaker 6: because they have all of the pieces to bring together
40:01
Speaker 6: new greatness, to bring together a new era of greatness
40:04
Speaker 6: for Florida State.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that they're one of them teams is
40:08
Speaker 1: gonna benefit that if there's actually a real salary cap,
40:12
Speaker 1: they're gonna be one of the ones that definitely benefit.
40:16
Speaker 3: All right.
40:17
Speaker 1: Next one, the quarterback Geo Lopez, transferred out of North
40:21
Speaker 1: Carolina to Wake Forest and in this last offseason, and
40:26
Speaker 1: he and his father criticized Bill Belichick in his experience,
40:31
Speaker 1: he said that there was no heir, and his father
40:34
Speaker 1: said that improvisation was highly frowned upon. So, reister or wrong,
40:38
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is gonna have to change and ease up
40:42
Speaker 1: if North Carolina's offense has any hope or success or
40:46
Speaker 1: of being successful. Excuse me, any hope of being successful
40:49
Speaker 1: in terms of it being run by college athletes.
40:53
Speaker 6: Oh well, you know the phrase old dog always learns
40:58
Speaker 6: new tricks. Right now, Absolutely totally Rightster, You're absolutely right.
41:02
Speaker 6: He has to change. Now, Kenny changes a different conversation.
41:06
Speaker 6: But Bill Belichick, last time we saw him before he
41:08
Speaker 6: got this job, he looked like the game had passed
41:11
Speaker 6: him by at every level, from a schematic level, from
41:14
Speaker 6: a scouting level. As the GM of that team, he
41:18
Speaker 6: looked like the game had passed him by. And so
41:22
Speaker 6: then UNC's bright idea is to get a coach who,
41:26
Speaker 6: by the way, if you're listening to this podcast, clap
41:29
Speaker 6: it up. You have at least as much experience as
41:31
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick did in the college ranks before he got
41:34
Speaker 6: the head coaching job at UC. Congratulations. That's a fun fact.
41:37
Speaker 6: He was never a GA. He was never a coordinator,
41:42
Speaker 6: never a position coach, never did any of that in college.
41:45
Speaker 6: All of his experience was in the league, and the
41:48
Speaker 6: thought was, he's going to be great here. So he
41:50
Speaker 6: needs to change his offensive mindset because not only is
41:54
Speaker 6: improvisation encouraged, but when you think about what UNC's roster
41:59
Speaker 6: deficiencies have had, think about every time you'll see is
42:02
Speaker 6: good what do they have? The last couple of times
42:04
Speaker 6: on the background, they were good, great offenses led by
42:08
Speaker 6: quarterbacks that were dynamic Drake May, Sam Howe, hell even
42:12
Speaker 6: Marquise Williams. You're looking at guys who are not all
42:16
Speaker 6: right one two three, make three? Okay, if it's not here,
42:19
Speaker 6: go here. Okay, if it's not here, go here. You
42:21
Speaker 6: had guys that can make plays in a variety of ways,
42:24
Speaker 6: and that's what's needed to succeed in today's college football
42:27
Speaker 6: because the defensive linemen are bigger, stronger, faster than ever.
42:31
Speaker 6: And you think that you're gonna be able to succeed
42:33
Speaker 6: with a guy just standing back third, just all right?
42:35
Speaker 6: One two three?
42:36
Speaker 3: Is it? Tom Brady had walking through that door? Brother,
42:39
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry to.
42:39
Speaker 1: Tell you, Hey, hey, he better hope that Bobby Patrino
42:43
Speaker 1: helps out, because that's his only saving that's the only
42:46
Speaker 1: thing that could possibly help them.
42:48
Speaker 6: All right, Ken, absolutely, but between him and Patrino, you
42:50
Speaker 6: gotta wash the co eds on that campus.
42:52
Speaker 3: Now you got it. You got a whole another sell
42:54
Speaker 3: of your head, probably your head out.
42:56
Speaker 1: You are not lying about that, hey man, you better
42:59
Speaker 1: hot hide your kids. Well, you don't have to hide
43:03
Speaker 1: hide your wife, but you definitely gotta gotta gotta hide
43:05
Speaker 1: your daughters and on them too. Am I reister or
43:10
Speaker 1: am I wrong? North Carolina State CJ. Bailey is a
43:14
Speaker 1: top three starting quarterback in the ACC.
43:20
Speaker 3: See see why you gotta do me like this? Why
43:22
Speaker 3: you gotta do me like this? Man? Because there's no
43:24
Speaker 3: right answer it.
43:25
Speaker 6: Because if I say no, not Mayasi State fans don't
43:27
Speaker 6: stop listening to my shows. I say, yeah, everybody, you
43:30
Speaker 6: know you see that hat out there or over here,
43:33
Speaker 6: you see that hat. But you know what I'm gonna say,
43:36
Speaker 6: You're very right, stir because CJ. Bailey has those plays
43:40
Speaker 6: that are he he's a a true definition of a playmaker,
43:44
Speaker 6: of a game changer. Because I tell people all the
43:47
Speaker 6: time the plus side of a game changer. He makes
43:49
Speaker 6: plays that you would only say fifteen other quarterbacks can
43:52
Speaker 6: make in the nation. The down side of that is
43:55
Speaker 6: he also makes plays where only fifteen other guys in
43:58
Speaker 6: the nation would make it. And it's that that right,
44:01
Speaker 6: like that interception against Notre Dame where you're floating, you're
44:05
Speaker 6: ten yards outside the tackle box and for whatever reason,
44:08
Speaker 6: instead of just throwing the ball away, somehow it ends
44:11
Speaker 6: up in there outside linebackers and it leaves you confused.
44:14
Speaker 6: But then you see plays like I believe it was
44:16
Speaker 6: the one that Teddy Hoffman, he's rolling out to his left,
44:19
Speaker 6: pulls it down. Nobody on the left side is open.
44:22
Speaker 6: He looks across the field, launches one about forty yards
44:25
Speaker 6: in the air, and it hits Teddy Hoffman right in
44:28
Speaker 6: a bucket. He's the top three quarterback. And I'm gonna
44:31
Speaker 6: tell you this, when you think about what makes CJ.
44:34
Speaker 6: Bailey so special, it's the exact thing I just talked
44:37
Speaker 6: about with Bill Belichick. What he needs to allow. It's
44:40
Speaker 6: the improvisation. It's that he can create out of structure,
44:43
Speaker 6: out of schedule. He can do things where it's like, hey,
44:45
Speaker 6: this player is breaking down around me. I'm gonna make
44:48
Speaker 6: something shake, I'm gonna figure out something. And he does
44:50
Speaker 6: it well. So I would say he's the top three
44:52
Speaker 6: quarterback for sure.
44:54
Speaker 1: All right, quickly, where will he play football at? Next year?
45:00
Speaker 1: He balls out this year.
45:03
Speaker 3: Baby, he'll be an NFL. He'll be an NFL.
45:05
Speaker 1: He'll be you know, he's a red shirt sophomore this year.
45:10
Speaker 3: No, No, he's a.
45:13
Speaker 1: This year.
45:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a sophomore last year. Last year.
45:17
Speaker 6: So his freshman year was the year that NC State
45:20
Speaker 6: fans had all the hopes and expect that we had
45:22
Speaker 6: Grace and McCall. We had all He was supposed to
45:25
Speaker 6: red shirt, but then, uh, you know not Gracey McCall's fault,
45:30
Speaker 6: his helm, he got knocked off and he already asked
45:32
Speaker 6: for concussion problems before that. That play was the one
45:35
Speaker 6: that retired them to hit. It's waiting for us. C. J.
45:38
Speaker 6: Bailey comes in, it becomes the starting quarterback that yeah,
45:40
Speaker 6: last year. See see, we're supposed to stick together, man,
45:47
Speaker 6: We're supposed to stick together out here.
45:49
Speaker 3: You know what it is. You got too much hair
45:51
Speaker 3: of your head.
45:51
Speaker 6: You talk about life. God ain't through you the real
45:54
Speaker 6: tough battles. Yet, don't worry.
45:58
Speaker 4: You.
45:58
Speaker 3: You gonna stop all that tru.
46:01
Speaker 1: All right? Am I right? Ster or am I wrong?
46:04
Speaker 1: At least five ACC teams will be looking for new
46:08
Speaker 1: head coaches after twenty twenty six. That and I'm looking
46:12
Speaker 1: at like pitt Florida State, Boston College, maybe Clemson, North Carolina,
46:19
Speaker 1: NC State. There's there's a lot of options, Syracuse.
46:23
Speaker 3: So here's the deal. Here's the deal.
46:26
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say you're wrong only because, and this is
46:31
Speaker 6: a knock on ACC. Enough of these teams are not
46:34
Speaker 6: serious about being serious programs. With all due respect, If
46:39
Speaker 6: I'm Boston College, how the hell do you keep Bill O'Brien,
46:43
Speaker 6: How is he still your head coach right now?
46:46
Speaker 3: What has he done? Listen?
46:48
Speaker 1: How was on CW with the Boston College Syracuse game
46:54
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Good God, that look
47:00
Speaker 1: like D two football.
47:03
Speaker 3: But that's my point. How do you bring that back? How?
47:07
Speaker 3: And they did?
47:08
Speaker 6: And you would think, well, can he's moving up, he's
47:10
Speaker 6: progressing in the right direction. When's the last time they
47:13
Speaker 6: won more than four games in Boston College. When's the
47:15
Speaker 6: last time?
47:16
Speaker 3: Now?
47:16
Speaker 6: Mind you, you could go back to the Dazzio days,
47:19
Speaker 6: you could go back to even further than that, and
47:21
Speaker 6: they were at least serviceable. They at least had an
47:23
Speaker 6: identity you knew when you were playing Boston College Andre
47:27
Speaker 6: Williams and then five so big he can't wear jeans
47:29
Speaker 6: are coming downhill for Thrill aj Dillon and them three
47:34
Speaker 6: tight ends that wear the number seventy are coming.
47:37
Speaker 3: You be ready.
47:38
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a physical game. They have no identity,
47:41
Speaker 6: they have no vision, they have no serious, big time
47:45
Speaker 6: playmakers coming into that program. So you're left with the
47:48
Speaker 6: question of, well, what's going on there? And that's not
47:52
Speaker 6: me RAGINGO just Boston College. There are other teams in
47:55
Speaker 6: the conference that I'm saying, you're not serious. You're not serious.
48:00
Speaker 6: With all due respect, U and C is not serious
48:02
Speaker 6: about football. There's no way you can tell me I'm
48:04
Speaker 6: serious about football. And I'm going to hire fire mac
48:07
Speaker 6: Brown because he's too old, he's out of touch, he
48:09
Speaker 6: can't do it no more.
48:10
Speaker 1: And forget somebody older, older, more out of touch and
48:14
Speaker 1: what he just ain't never been in touch with college.
48:18
Speaker 6: That's like saying, man, my old lady is just too
48:20
Speaker 6: fine and two outside she's too beautiful, the two outsides,
48:23
Speaker 6: So I dumped her a guy with mega stallion.
48:25
Speaker 3: Well that doesn't it doesn't. Oh, my old lady can't cook.
48:31
Speaker 3: My old lady can't cook.
48:32
Speaker 6: So I undumped her and guy with somebody who almost
48:35
Speaker 6: burned down the house boiling water.
48:36
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense.
48:37
Speaker 6: So objectively speaking, I think that you're looking at too
48:40
Speaker 6: many teams in the ACC that are okay with I mean,
48:45
Speaker 6: you show up, you get beat up something, you might
48:47
Speaker 6: win some We might have a decent game here and
48:50
Speaker 6: there might have a decent season to be all right.
48:52
Speaker 6: So I think that there will be. I think it's
48:54
Speaker 6: tough to say whether or not your right stir or
48:56
Speaker 6: wrong on that one, But I'm a lean I'm a
48:59
Speaker 6: lean right stir because I hope that a lot of
49:03
Speaker 6: these ACC teams get serious about You don't gotta be great.
49:07
Speaker 6: Everybody came win the championship every year. I understand that,
49:09
Speaker 6: but damn, pitch decency, pitch seriousness, be closer.
49:13
Speaker 1: To at least pinched, to be at least.
49:16
Speaker 6: Pitch it unless painting, just painting a little bit. I
49:19
Speaker 6: don't need to fight it. I don't need to put
49:21
Speaker 6: your dukes all the way. Took pinching it right away.
49:24
Speaker 6: We got sere for today, all right, you know.
49:28
Speaker 1: Boy, getting boy, you got me over here, rolling man?
49:31
Speaker 1: Am I reister or am I wrong? Stanford and Cal
49:36
Speaker 1: have both positioned themselves to compete for an ACC championship
49:41
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six.
49:43
Speaker 3: Oh, you're very wrong. You're very wrong. I thought you were.
49:45
Speaker 6: Go say in the near future. In the near future,
49:48
Speaker 6: Laporte is doing a great job. What what Col's new
49:51
Speaker 6: coach is doing over there?
49:53
Speaker 3: They have one of.
49:53
Speaker 6: The TOSH has one of the top five recruiting classes
49:57
Speaker 6: in the ACC. Look low, Cal and watch this. Cal
50:02
Speaker 6: is benefiting from factors that have nothing to do with them.
50:05
Speaker 6: USC and UCLA both stink to the high heavens right now,
50:09
Speaker 6: and people are saying, oh, I know, some people don't
50:11
Speaker 6: see this to say, USC stanks to the high heavens. Yes,
50:14
Speaker 6: by comparison of what the other teams with their budgets doing,
50:17
Speaker 6: absolutely their nil package for one of their D linemen
50:21
Speaker 6: that's well documented, is damn near what nc's taking paid
50:24
Speaker 6: all an.
50:24
Speaker 3: Entire D line.
50:25
Speaker 6: Okay, So to have that type of budget and still
50:29
Speaker 6: be eight wins, yeah, you're stinking now. With that being said,
50:34
Speaker 6: Kyle and Stanford are benefiting from the other schools in
50:36
Speaker 6: California not being that good right now, and they're in
50:39
Speaker 6: position to be good down the line. Jks love them
50:44
Speaker 6: love them. I think cal Is Cal has quietly positioned
50:48
Speaker 6: themselves to be a force to be reckoned with, whether
50:51
Speaker 6: they're in the ACC, whether they go back to the
50:53
Speaker 6: renewed PAC twelve, regardless of what conference they're in. Stanford,
50:57
Speaker 6: we're finding it right. We got a new coach, Stanford
51:01
Speaker 6: go no more interim coach nonsense, I get it. I
51:06
Speaker 6: don't think that either team is ready to compete for
51:08
Speaker 6: an ACC championship this year, this year, let alone both.
51:12
Speaker 6: Oh no, Stanford definitely ain't there. Stanford just ain't there.
51:14
Speaker 6: Cal I wouldn't be super shocked that they got there Stanford.
51:18
Speaker 6: I if Stanford gets there, everybody start praying. I don't
51:22
Speaker 6: care what deity you do or don't believe in, you
51:24
Speaker 6: better find somebody and get right with them or them
51:27
Speaker 6: or her, whatever you believe in. You better start praying
51:30
Speaker 6: to that flying spaghetti monster because the end of times
51:32
Speaker 6: is near.
51:36
Speaker 1: Hey, you might be right about that. In usc is
51:39
Speaker 1: paying all his money for recruiting. But there's a lot
51:43
Speaker 1: of kids come around, a lot of these high school kids.
51:45
Speaker 1: They're believing Tassa's Tassa's message and they're like, yo, we
51:49
Speaker 1: can answer. They getting some sneaky good players, especially out
51:54
Speaker 1: of Cali. All Right, absolutely, am I reister? Or am
51:58
Speaker 1: I wrong? This is Dabbos Sweeney's last year at Clemson.
52:05
Speaker 1: Who see last year to leave? They may, you know,
52:12
Speaker 1: pull a a Kyle Whittingham like they did a Utah
52:16
Speaker 1: and forced the man out and he lands at Michigan.
52:18
Speaker 1: So he might be the next head coach at USC
52:20
Speaker 1: or something. I'm just saying, is this his last season
52:23
Speaker 1: at Clemson?
52:24
Speaker 6: And this is why I'm such a big fan of
52:28
Speaker 6: the Underfraise show, because Rice to go give it to
52:30
Speaker 6: you in the way. He gonna trip you up. He
52:32
Speaker 6: gonna set that traff plate. Because if we would have said,
52:34
Speaker 6: or they go fire him, it would have been easy
52:35
Speaker 6: to say, you're wrong. They definitely not go fire them.
52:38
Speaker 6: That you know, he has more national championships than Clemson's
52:41
Speaker 6: entire existence before him. It's easy to say that, right,
52:44
Speaker 6: It's easy to say, oh, is this his last year
52:47
Speaker 6: at Clemson?
52:48
Speaker 3: Yeah?
52:48
Speaker 6: Most likely he probably. He seems like one of those
52:51
Speaker 6: guys that would leave on his own the court. But
52:53
Speaker 6: will he coach again? Is this his last year coaching? Period?
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Speaker 6: That's where it gets tough because you yourself, where would
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Speaker 6: Dabbo go. So I'm gonna say this, would he coach again? Right,
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Speaker 6: Star Roaster? Is this his last year coaching? Rather, I'm
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Speaker 6: gonna say you're wrong. I'm gonna say you're wrong. I think,
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Speaker 6: regardless of what happens at Clemson this year, somebody's gonna
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Speaker 6: take a fly. Somebody's gonna take a fly and say,
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Speaker 6: you know what, We're gonna give him a shot. And
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Speaker 6: he's I don't care where it is. I don't think
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Speaker 6: that Wo's too proud for the coach again. I don't
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Speaker 6: think that Davo's the type of guy that once he's
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Speaker 6: done at Clemson, he's gonna say, all right, it's time
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Speaker 6: for me to go be on TV somewhere.
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Speaker 1: He talking about this year, he was like, hey, yo,
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Speaker 1: hey yo, if you don't want me, want me here.
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Speaker 3: A lot of other people do, like he gonna know
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Speaker 3: exactly exactly.
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Speaker 6: So with that being said, I'm gonna say this being
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Speaker 6: Dabo's last year coaching, ever is wrong coaching at Clemson.
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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe get two fights to know, let's not look
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Speaker 6: like in too hasty said he definitely gonna be there
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Speaker 6: in twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 1: And you guys, he is ken ten Gibbs. You can
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Speaker 1: find him covering the a CC check him out on
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Speaker 1: Twitter as well. Check out his work. We will absolutely
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Speaker 1: have Kitten back on.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 1: This is great stuff, Ken, Thanks for coming on, Man,
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Speaker 1: appreciate it absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Man, I'm happy to have you. See.
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Speaker 6: I can't call you big bro because I'm from Detroit
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Speaker 6: and they'll kicked me out. I've already got excommunicated for
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Speaker 6: not knowing that Tonia shuffle. But if you're calling somebody
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Speaker 6: the first time you meet a big bro, you're definitely
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Speaker 6: super excommunicated now. So i'mna say I like your work
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Speaker 6: a lot, and I'm gonna enjoy being back again.
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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, appreciated