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  Speaker 1: This is The Bad Hire, the show where epic hiring
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  Speaker 1: failures and remarkable wins fuel better hiring. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Ken Monroe, and each week we dive into real-life stories
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  Speaker 1: Bad Hire All right. Well, welcome to the show. This
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  Speaker 1: is the Bad Hire podcast. And welcome, Emma. How are
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  Speaker 1: you doing? Good to have you back. Good. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing great. And Lindsay, it's your first time on
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  Speaker 1: the show. Welcome. I'm excited to have you here. I
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  Speaker 1: think you've been in the industry, the recruiting industry, a
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  Speaker 1: stories and a bunch of wins, too. So welcome. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me a little bit about your background. Where did you start?
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  Speaker 1: You've been a long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: I have to throw it back like 20 years. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I started in kind of the agency space and evolved through,
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  Speaker 2: you know, industrial manufacturing, corporate, and a little bit in between.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And so you've been in sourcing, run a full desk,
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  Speaker 1: been over in corporate. I happen to know that you've
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  Speaker 1: been involved in a ton of big integration projects, putting
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  Speaker 1: in HRS systems and talent acquisition systems. So.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you did that, I think, globally over.
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  Speaker 2: I did over a number of years and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: led great teams, you know, bringing in great talent, you know,
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  Speaker 2: running everything from the sourcing, the screening, the hiring, all
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  Speaker 2: the onboarding and, you know, background checks.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So suffice to say, tons of recruiting experience. So
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  Speaker 1: some of these some of these stories will probably ring true.
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  Speaker 1: so let me get started. I've got the first story.
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yeah. All right, here we go. All right,
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  Speaker 1: the boss goes into the office of one of my
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  Speaker 1: dad's coworkers to discuss some kind of technical issue. They
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  Speaker 1: disagree about the proper corrective measure. It escalates into a
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  Speaker 1: screaming match and the boss fires the coworker on the spot,
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  Speaker 1: tells him to take off his stuff and get out.
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  Speaker 1: The coworker comes back the next morning, just like nothing happened.
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  Speaker 1: So nobody's really sure what's going on. And since the
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  Speaker 1: boss had to go out of town for a meeting,
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  Speaker 1: they can't get hold of him to ask, hey, should
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  Speaker 1: he be here? He doesn't seem to be causing any
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  Speaker 1: problems though. So they just kind of do their thing
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  Speaker 1: and leave him alone. The coworker keeps coming in And
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  Speaker 1: doing work. And a couple of days later, the boss
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  Speaker 1: walks past his door and does this kind of like
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  Speaker 1: double take. Hey, didn't I fire you? Without looking up
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  Speaker 1: from his desk, the co-worker replies, you can't fire me.
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  Speaker 1: I have too much work to do. The boss thinks
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  Speaker 1: about this for a minute, shrugs, and walks off. The
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  Speaker 1: dude kept working there for another couple of years after that.
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  Speaker 2: It's like an HR nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: He was just like, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Just come back. Okay. You're fired. Uh-huh. I'll see
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  Speaker 1: you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't really mean it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: It was spur of the moment. Yeah. I guess. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if he ever did that. I assume they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have the screaming match again after that. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Lesson here. Persistence sometimes beats policy.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he forgot that he screamed at me yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: False one out of town.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, my kids are like that. I
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  Speaker 1: think they just ignore me and You know, take their
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  Speaker 1: keys away from them or something. And they're like, right.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just grab your set.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just take your car. Oh, my gosh. All right. So, next.
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  Speaker 1: I worked at a company that was going through layoffs. Oh, jeez.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I was in HR sitting next to the
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  Speaker 1: girl who checked the anonymous HR tip line. That's the
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  Speaker 1: third-party company where employees could call without being identified to
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  Speaker 1: report HR issues. Turns out a manager had been feeling
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  Speaker 1: down about the layoffs and decided his team needed a
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  Speaker 1: morale boost. He piled, this doesn't sound like it's going
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  Speaker 1: in somewhere. He piled them all in a company van
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  Speaker 1: and took them to a strip club.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. Classy.
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  Speaker 1: Right. There you go. As he does. Yeah, including two women.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I bet they were comfortable. The women said they were uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. And wanted to leave. He said, find
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  Speaker 1: your own ride home. This was literally one day after
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  Speaker 1: the sexual harassment training was completed.
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  Speaker 2: Say that course was a fail. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like it was very successful.
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  Speaker 1: He did not listen. Much like the first guy who
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  Speaker 1: didn't listen to the firing. That guy didn't listen to the, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the sexual harassment training. Yeah. So safe to say he
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  Speaker 1: failed like management one-on-one class. Um, I hope he was
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  Speaker 1: on the list of layoff terminations. I don't really hope that,
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  Speaker 1: but he may have deserved it. Oh my gosh. All right,
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  Speaker 1: last one, and then I'll pass it off to Lynn.
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  Speaker 1: So I think she's got a couple. I work for
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  Speaker 1: a company that produces munitions. So background checks are required.
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  Speaker 1: You cannot have a felony and work around firearms. I
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  Speaker 1: always ask if there's anything in their– I always ask
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  Speaker 1: if there's anything in the background that would make them
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  Speaker 1: unqualified to work around munitions. Well, every recruiter does that, right?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything in your past you want to tell
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  Speaker 1: me about? Have you ever been– Give me a hint.
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  Speaker 1: You ever run a live someone? Yeah. You already say
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  Speaker 1: it as a joke in hopes that they'll disclose something.
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  Speaker 3: Remember that one story you read? They were in an interview,
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  Speaker 3: and he was like, oh, it'll be fine as long
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  Speaker 3: as you haven't run a live somebody. It'll be fine.
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  Speaker 3: And at first I said, but what.
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  Speaker 2: If I have?
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  Speaker 1: That's right. I do remember that.
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  Speaker 2: I hate my job right now. Dang. All right.
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  Speaker 1: I always ask if there's anything in their background that
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  Speaker 1: would make them unqualified to work around munitions. Answer is
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  Speaker 1: always no. Until the background check comes back and they
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  Speaker 1: forgot they have prior felonies. I'm interviewing a candidate and
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  Speaker 1: ask him if he would pass a background check. And
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  Speaker 1: he tells me yes. I'm not even. That's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a check the box rule, isn't it? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like you're really not supposed to ask that question, right?
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  Speaker 1: You make the conditional offer and then you do it.
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  Speaker 1: So asking the question actually is illegal in probably 25 states.
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  Speaker 1: He then proceeded to bike his, wait, I'm interviewing a
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  Speaker 1: candidate and ask if he would pass a background check.
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  Speaker 1: He tells me, yes. He then proceeds to hike his
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  Speaker 1: leg on my desk. He's going to pass a background
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  Speaker 1: check and show me his ankle monitor.
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  Speaker 3: Lovely.
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  Speaker 1: I again ask him if he has any felonies. He
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  Speaker 1: proceeds to say no. I give him the benefit of
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  Speaker 1: the doubt and finish the interview. I send the link
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  Speaker 1: for the background check and he completes it. Three days later,
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  Speaker 1: I see he's on parole for S.A. on a minor.
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  Speaker 1: Serial stalking and a bunch of other things in other states. People,
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  Speaker 1: please be honest when interviewing people. Most recruiters are not
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  Speaker 1: going to risk their jobs by not doing a thorough
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  Speaker 1: background check on an applicant. Be honest and will not
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  Speaker 1: waste each other's time, she writes.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: You said he did show his ankle monitor?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. I felt like he was semi-telling
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  Speaker 1: the truth.
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  Speaker 3: Was he joking when he said no?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: This is just an accessory. It's not real.
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  Speaker 1: Jewelry. I know you thought this was a monitor. It's
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  Speaker 1: just something I wear. I don't know. But that's happened.
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  Speaker 1: That's happened. To you? No, not to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I've heard stories from our own customers who didn't
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  Speaker 1: do certain types of searches and someone showed up first
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  Speaker 1: day of work with an ankle monitor for a federal
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  Speaker 1: charge and they did not search, you know, in their
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  Speaker 1: background check, they weren't searching federal records. And they're like,
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  Speaker 1: why is, you know, you guys missed a record. And
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  Speaker 1: we're like, no, you didn't search that. That was your choice.
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  Speaker 1: And then they come back. Somebody shows up with an
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  Speaker 1: ankle monitor. You know, what always happens is they show
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  Speaker 1: up with an ankle monitor and that story quickly goes
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  Speaker 1: to some VP or executive VP who then lands on
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  Speaker 1: top of HR.
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  Speaker 2: Because all the whispers are from the office.
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  Speaker 3: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why recruiters double check. Because recruiters always should
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  Speaker 1: double check because honesty is sometimes not in the vocabulary.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little rare.
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  Speaker 1: I think applicants lie. All right, before I pass it off,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. I'll pass it off to you. You've got.
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  Speaker 2: Some good ones.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Some good ones.
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  Speaker 1: I heard you talking about one earlier today, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, this could be a good one today.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So a VP at my company caught wind
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  Speaker 2: that she was going to be fired. Her secretary told
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  Speaker 2: her that the higher-ups were on their way. The VP
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  Speaker 2: told her secretary that she was going to the bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: After waiting for 30 minutes, they had someone go and
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  Speaker 2: check the bathroom, and the VP had never gone to
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  Speaker 2: the bathroom. She went home to avoid being fired.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Does that work? Can you just... It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like being invisible. It's kind of like the first guy
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  Speaker 1: who just ignored it. He's like, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: be here for that.
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  Speaker 3: You can't be fired if I'm not here.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be fired. Yes, yes. Now I'm going on
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  Speaker 2: medical leave right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably, right?
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm sick.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I have to go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So Lindsay's heard like a thousand different.
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  Speaker 2: Little excuses.
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  Speaker 1: A thousand different. I'm in trouble? No, I'm on medical leave. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So another good one. It says, I hired someone that
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  Speaker 2: ended up accidentally using the company card to pay for
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  Speaker 2: his bail bond when pulled over for driving under the influence.
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  Speaker 2: The position required driving all over the state, and apparently
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  Speaker 2: this person also had a suspended license, so the employee
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  Speaker 2: was charged with that also. And we didn't find out
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  Speaker 2: until the charge was on the credit card and had
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  Speaker 2: to investigate further.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, how do you accidentally use the company card on.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that?
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  Speaker 1: Because you're broke. You don't have any money. You've got
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  Speaker 1: to pay it. You're like, hopefully they don't see it.
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  Speaker 2: I can see pulling it out at the grocery store
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  Speaker 2: by accident if it's the same color or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But that's kind of like intentional.
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  Speaker 1: That happens.
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  Speaker 2: That's intentional.
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  Speaker 1: Our staff, sometimes someone uses the card inadvertently. This is
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  Speaker 1: all I got.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, oops.
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  Speaker 1: Oops, I paid my dentist $ 1, 000. Whoops. You know, that's happened.
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  Speaker 3: It's like one guy, the story you told that he
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  Speaker 3: took the company card and went to a hotel and
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  Speaker 3: paid for a bunch of room service. Do you remember
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  Speaker 3: that one?
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  Speaker 1: You have like a great memory for these stories. I
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  Speaker 1: have all this reach back.
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  Speaker 3: It reminds me of other ones that we've read.
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  Speaker 2: Other things not to do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of interesting because, um, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: a survey that we did, we, we, um, we surveyed
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  Speaker 1: people and ask them, would you tell your employee if
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  Speaker 1: you got arrested? And like a six in 10 say, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's, every company has a policy and, um, um,
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  Speaker 1: we have that, uh, check 365 product that has continuous monitoring.
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  Speaker 1: And so you find out when someone's been arrested, you don't.
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  Speaker 2: Just, uh, See it on your credit card statement.
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  Speaker 1: Not a good monitoring system. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It comes a little after the fact.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So last one. I once had a candidate
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  Speaker 2: for an intermediate level analyst brag during an interview that
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  Speaker 2: he used to work other jobs and play poker while
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  Speaker 2: working his primary position. For example, for about two weeks
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  Speaker 2: before he was caught and got fired from both of
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  Speaker 2: his jobs, he would take long lunches. No one knew
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  Speaker 2: where he was between 1030 and 130. It's a long lunch.
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  Speaker 1: That is a long lunch.
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  Speaker 2: It turns out he had gotten a job making pizza
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  Speaker 2: next door at the pizza restaurant. He was working there
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  Speaker 2: during the rush hour for lunch. He also bragged about
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  Speaker 2: playing poker at work constantly. This was, I guess, in
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  Speaker 2: the late 2000s when online poker was still in boom
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  Speaker 2: or popular.
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  Speaker 1: I think it still is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I think that's still a thing.
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  Speaker 2: He bragged these things to me as if a relatively
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  Speaker 2: young professional at the time would think that that was cool. Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: multitasking at the finest. And again, like he thought it
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  Speaker 2: might have demonstrated his ability to multitask very well. And
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  Speaker 2: either way, we did not extend him the offer.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, this was.
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  Speaker 2: This is for a recruiter. And this is a candidate
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  Speaker 2: that shared this story.
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  Speaker 1: No way. OK, so I was thinking this when you
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  Speaker 1: were telling the story. So again, I knew someone in my.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a recruiter. And because the recruiter saying
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  Speaker 1: because I'm young, he thinks he can share this cool
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  Speaker 1: stuff with me and how he multi.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, we've got that bond. We're
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  Speaker 2: in common. You know, this isn't the real boss. It's
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  Speaker 2: the gatekeeper to the boss.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This person. Yeah. He's going to think I'm cool
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  Speaker 1: because I can multitask. I've got lots of skills. I
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  Speaker 1: can make pizza for you.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of skills.
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  Speaker 3: I can win you a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Good time. So, Emma, what's your stories look like today?
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  Speaker 3: I normally have really good ones.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Ken always says that I.
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  Speaker 2: Have good ones.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Ready? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: My bookstore wasn't exactly known for strict management, which meant
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  Speaker 3: we had some real characters on staff. Take this sweet lady,
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  Speaker 3: late 50s, early 60s, we'll call her Darlene. Honestly, at first,
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  Speaker 3: she was just kind of forgetful. One of those employees
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  Speaker 3: who can never quite remember how to do things, but
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  Speaker 3: harmless enough. Until one day, she decides it's time to
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  Speaker 3: show off something she keeps in her purse. Not a
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  Speaker 3: picture of her grandkids. Not her new lipstick.
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  Speaker 1: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 3: Her gun.
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  Speaker 2: On the sales floor, customers around, staff around.
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  Speaker 3: It gets the most normal thing in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Just pull it out.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, check this out.
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  Speaker 3: That's it for the first one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I know.
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  Speaker 3: Not as exciting as.
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  Speaker 1: The last one. Maybe one of the recruiting questions would be,
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  Speaker 1: do you, I don't know anything.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have concealed carry license?
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  Speaker 1: Do you intend to use it in our store while
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  Speaker 1: you work here? Because we really prefer you didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you should apply for a security role if you
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  Speaker 2: want to carry a gun.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so what you'd need to send the bookstore for, but.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Here's my next one. Back when I was running
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  Speaker 3: my welding shop, I had one of those moments you
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  Speaker 3: just don't forget. I walked in one morning and there's
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  Speaker 3: this huge pool of blood under one of the saws.
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  Speaker 3: No one around. No one was around. I followed the trail.
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  Speaker 3: Through the shop, splattered in the office, out the door,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: and across the parking lot. It looked like something out
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: of a crime show.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Yuck.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: So I hopped in my truck to see if I
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: could find whoever it was. A few minutes later, there
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: he was, my brand new employee, riding his bicycle down
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: the road. He had a bloody t-shirt wrapped around his hand,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: peddling like it was no big deal. Turns out, he'd
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: cut his thumb clean off. And the wild part, he
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: stuck it in his pocket and decided the best way
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: to get help was to pedal 18 miles to the hospital.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Okay. Phones don't work. No. Yeah. Don't call 911. Don't
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: call 911. Don't call an ambulance. I'm going to pedal
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: 18 miles. Don't call an ambulance.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I drive a bicycle.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just... I really shouldn't do that. But I'm just
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: imagining holding on to the handlebar.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't do that. Off balance, leaning to the left. Oh,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: that's sad.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: He's first day on the job.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: A little sad.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I would say that hire a suspect if that guy's
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: not sharp enough to.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Pun intended right there.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Solid. 30. I'm going to take a 40-minute drop. I'm
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: going to take a 40-minute pedal. 40 would probably take
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: longer than that. How long would that take? It would
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: probably take a couple hours.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: My thumb is just decaying in his pocket.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: And the boss has worked out his work.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I tell you, bring me some light. You always do
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: this to me. Guns and blood. Guns and blood. That's
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: what you say.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to hear your craziest story.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, that is crazy. That was a bad hire.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Clearly not good. It hired him. Clearly not good with
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: us all. Doesn't understand safety measures and not bright enough
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to call 911.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Lots of concerns there.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm ready for my last one.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Okay. This one is not as gory.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. I love the wholesome, good-hearted stories. Good.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Lack of violence coming here.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Back when I worked at Jimmy John's, we had this
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: one delivery driver who was, let's just say, not the brightest.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: He literally drive.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Home with the car topper still on top of his
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: car more than once. On our busiest day of the year,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: $ 1 sub day, he got sent to deliver food just
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: half a mile down the road. Except 45 minutes later,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: the customer calls asking where her order is. By the
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: time he finally shows up, we've already made a replacement.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: The owner quietly pulls him aside, doesn't yell, and I'm
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: thinking he's actually going to get away with it. But
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: then a cop walks in, points right at him, and
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: hauls him outside. Next thing we see, he's face first
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: against the big glass windows, getting handcuffed. Turns out he'd
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: gone miles out of range, hit two cars... fled the
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: scene with the Jimmy John's sign still on top of
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: his car. And on top of that, cops found illegal
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: substances in his vehicle.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Lovely.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Never saw him again after that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, super good hire. That's what you call firing without firing.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: You just, cops took him away, I don't have to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: fire him. I guess you still have to fire them legally,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I guess. But, I don't, you don't have to say it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: You don't have to do the hard conversation. You're just like, bro.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: How would you do that if he's, he's like, where
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: am I going to send that last paycheck? Yeah, To
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the jail?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Which block will you be in? Yeah.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Do you want that in commissary credit?
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: That's all mine for today.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of a wrap on Episode 6. 7.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Huge thanks, everyone. Thanks, Lindsay, for being here.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did awesome. And remember, we've got $ 10, 000 to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: give to a winner, so make sure to go to thebadhire.com,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: check out our website, submit your stories. We'll read them
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: on air if they're any good. And I would just
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: like to say, Emma, please keep positive. No more.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I'll do my best.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you. But we'll be back next week with another
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: show and look forward to seeing you then. Hey, thanks
• 20:20
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• 20:23
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• 20:25
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• 20:27
  Speaker 1: me at Ken at TheBadHire.com or find me on LinkedIn
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: at Ken Monroe. And I'll see you next time.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Bye.