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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a pearl wearing brat Spie says,
- 0:10Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three thousand dollars Mercedes right over
- 0:17Speaker 1: an officer down. I don't mean he mowed the officer down.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I mean he mowed over the officer while the officer
- 0:27Speaker 1: was already down, defenseless.
- 0:30Speaker 2: On the ground.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Imagine that one hundred and thirty three thousand dollars Mercedes
- 0:37Speaker 1: Monster machine plow a G wagon. You ever seen one
- 0:41Speaker 1: of those. They're huge, plowing over you. You see it
- 0:45Speaker 1: coming and you are helpless to do anything to stop it.
- 0:50Speaker 1: That is allegedly what happened at the wheel a silver
- 0:56Speaker 1: spoon bratt I, Nancy Grace, this is crime Store.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Dolton Jane Check twenty one from Gwyneed, Pennsylvania is no
- 1:05Speaker 3: stranger to the finer things.
- 1:07Speaker 2: He lives a lavish life.
- 1:08Speaker 3: In a one point four million dollar home and attends
- 1:11Speaker 3: Loyola Marimon University. However, his reckless behavior has taken a
- 1:16Speaker 3: dangerous turn, making headlines for all the wrong reasons.
- 1:22Speaker 1: A lavish life. Do you know how many jobs police
- 1:29Speaker 1: officers have to work just to pay for their house?
- 1:33Speaker 1: The house payment the children's school, the cars, the braces,
- 1:40Speaker 1: this the dance lessons.
- 1:41Speaker 2: That I've had.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Cops that work a shift all day or all night,
- 1:46Speaker 1: then they have two other extra jobs. And this guy,
- 1:51Speaker 1: this brat is driving one hundred and thirty three, yes him,
- 1:58Speaker 1: thousand dollars Mercedes g Wagon and he allegedly plows over
- 2:05Speaker 1: an officer down to Dave Matt, Crime Story's investigative reporter,
- 2:11Speaker 1: what do you mean by lavish life?
- 2:15Speaker 4: We are talking about a young man, Nancy, who has
- 2:19Speaker 4: grown up in a powerful, multi million dollar household. He's driving,
- 2:27Speaker 4: as you've mentioned, a very expensive car. He went to
- 2:31Speaker 4: a very exclusive school where he was on the rowing
- 2:34Speaker 4: team in high school, and then went to Loyola Marymount
- 2:38Speaker 4: where he once again was on the rowing team for
- 2:41Speaker 4: two years. This is a young man who has been
- 2:46Speaker 4: given every possible financial advantage in life, Nancy.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Guys, when I say lavish lifestyle, I couldn't think of
- 2:59Speaker 1: a better word. Let me understand something. Alexis Tereschuk joining
- 3:04Speaker 1: US Crime Stories investigative reporter.
- 3:07Speaker 2: His father is a partner at a huge law firm.
- 3:13Speaker 1: I've been trying to count out how many satellite offices
- 3:16Speaker 1: they have. It's the Brisboy law firm, and I quit
- 3:22Speaker 1: counting at one, two, three, four for six seven eight,
- 3:25Speaker 1: nineteen eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen
- 3:30Speaker 1: twenty times two to three sixty satellite offices.
- 3:36Speaker 5: That I know of.
- 3:37Speaker 1: So they're rolling in money but obviously not in good judgment.
- 3:45Speaker 1: So explain to me this brat, the one wearing the
- 3:49Speaker 1: pearls driving the one hundred and thirty three thousand dollars
- 3:52Speaker 1: Mercedes g wagon that allegedly not only runs out runs
- 3:57Speaker 1: over an officer down, but then circles around.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Come to me, please, circles around, According.
- 4:05Speaker 1: To my reading of the fact, circles around, comes back
- 4:09Speaker 1: to run over the officer was in an accident, he
- 4:13Speaker 1: circled around the parking lot and came back to run
- 4:17Speaker 1: over an officer. Then also rams another cruiser with officers.
- 4:25Speaker 1: And it tell me about the daddy's law firm, Brisboy.
- 4:30Speaker 6: So briz Boy, his dad. They live outside of Philadelphia,
- 4:33Speaker 6: a very wealthy area. He went to private school his
- 4:35Speaker 6: whole life, and the dad's firm covers everything from cannabis
- 4:41Speaker 6: and regulated substances to entertainment and media and sports. This
- 4:45Speaker 6: is their corporate, they do mergers and acquisitions, a huge,
- 4:49Speaker 6: huge law firm. And in fact, his grandfather was a
- 4:53Speaker 6: very well known attorney as well. So it's three, well,
- 4:56Speaker 6: two generations of successful lawyers and then him.
- 5:00Speaker 2: So he actually has.
- 5:01Speaker 6: His parents live in a one point four million dollar
- 5:04Speaker 6: house in a suburb of Philadelphia's Beautiful Home Again private school.
- 5:09Speaker 6: All these years driving this one hundred thousand dollars car,
- 5:11Speaker 6: this was not his first run in with the law.
- 5:15Speaker 1: This day which starts, are going to get to his
- 5:18Speaker 1: record one thing at a time. Hold on, Alexis Tereschuk.
- 5:23Speaker 1: You got me drinking out of the fire hydrant right now.
- 5:26Speaker 1: I want to hear it all.
- 5:27Speaker 5: But in order, and I learned this trying.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Felony prosecution cases.
- 5:31Speaker 1: You have to go a to Z one at a time,
- 5:35Speaker 1: all right, to set forth your facts clearly.
- 5:38Speaker 2: In plane fashion.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I'm on the dad right now, because this little monster
- 5:42Speaker 1: did not just happen overnight. This took a good twenty
- 5:47Speaker 1: plus years of careful breeding to make him what he
- 5:51Speaker 1: is today. I want you to hear about daddy's law firm. Okay,
- 5:56Speaker 1: listen to this.
- 5:57Speaker 7: I ad my prior for some people left and they
- 6:00Speaker 7: were telling me about Lewis Brisboy and they were telling
- 6:03Speaker 7: me it's better culture, better firm. You're going to really
- 6:07Speaker 7: enjoy it. And my first thought was I was at
- 6:09Speaker 7: a big firm. This is even a bigger firm. It's
- 6:13Speaker 7: just a different letterhead, you know. I couldn't get my
- 6:15Speaker 7: hands around that they would be a difference. And then
- 6:18Speaker 7: finally one day I decided it was time for a change,
- 6:21Speaker 7: and they were absolutely one hundred percent dead on.
- 6:25Speaker 2: This firm is very different.
- 6:27Speaker 1: It's more transparent, more transparent, more opportunity.
- 6:31Speaker 5: Well, maybe Dad's going to.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Be transparent when he shows up for his son in court.
- 6:36Speaker 1: You know, Alexis Tereschuk as awesome as you are. I
- 6:39Speaker 1: have a veteran trial lawyer on with me right now,
- 6:41Speaker 1: Ryan Brown, veteran criminal defense attorney at Jryanbrownlaw dot com.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Ryan, thank you for being with us.
- 6:51Speaker 1: I noticed that Daddy's specialty among many specialties listed for
- 6:55Speaker 1: his law firm, Lewis.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Brisboy, is liability.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Could you explain in a nutshell do not give me
- 7:03Speaker 1: a law school lecture? What does that mean if you
- 7:06Speaker 1: specialize in liability law?
- 7:10Speaker 8: Nasie quickly.
- 7:11Speaker 9: He represents insurance companies when they're getting sued that's the
- 7:16Speaker 9: elevator speech. So at a firm like this, it's going
- 7:18Speaker 9: to be big insurance claims you as best as litigation
- 7:22Speaker 9: stuff like that. So big, massive, big time claims against
- 7:26Speaker 9: big insurance companies.
- 7:27Speaker 8: He's going to be representing my ability.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Liability to me, Ryan Brown means you're liable. You did
- 7:34Speaker 1: something wrong and someone was harmed. That's what when you're
- 7:38Speaker 1: liable for something, you're responsible for something.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Let's get back off.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Daddy's big law firm all around the country, sixty satellite
- 7:49Speaker 1: offices that I know of. It takes a lot to
- 7:51Speaker 1: become a lawyer at a big firm like that. Lewis Brisboy.
- 7:55Speaker 1: The spawn of this partner in this law firm is
- 8:00Speaker 1: the son Dalton Jana check Listen.
- 8:04Speaker 4: In a shocking video going viral online, the attempted murder
- 8:08Speaker 4: of a police officer is caught on tape at eleven
- 8:10Speaker 4: fifty six am with pain Township police attempt to stop
- 8:14Speaker 4: a white Mercedes g Wagon. When the vehicle speeds away,
- 8:17Speaker 4: driving erradically high rate of speed, crossing over the concrete median,
- 8:20Speaker 4: the officer sends out an APB to area departments.
- 8:23Speaker 1: That from at Kels and Dale's on TikTok okay. I
- 8:27Speaker 1: need to slow that down to understand exactly what happened
- 8:31Speaker 1: to Alexis Tereschuk. A Crime story's investigative reporter, break it
- 8:35Speaker 1: down for me exactly what happened. I've researched, and what
- 8:39Speaker 1: really stood out to me was the claim all of
- 8:41Speaker 1: these allegations Jana Chik presumed innocent until proving guilty in
- 8:46Speaker 1: a court of law.
- 8:48Speaker 2: If there's not.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Some sweetheart plea deal behind closed doors that said, think
- 8:54Speaker 1: how we've heard about cases covered up and the next
- 8:58Speaker 1: thing you know is all done. Like know, just example,
- 9:01Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein got basically house arrest for molesting little girls.
- 9:06Speaker 2: That kind of.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Cover up that hasn't happened yet, and I want to
- 9:11Speaker 1: make sure it doesn't happen. Alexis terrestro because I do
- 9:14Speaker 1: not like it when police officers put.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Their life on the line and.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Some spoil brat wearing his pearls and his Mercedes g
- 9:23Speaker 1: Wagon does big three sixty and comes around to run
- 9:28Speaker 1: over one of our officers.
- 9:31Speaker 2: What happened?
- 9:34Speaker 6: So it started about ten o'clock in the morning on Friday,
- 9:37Speaker 6: October twenty fourth. He is driving speeding. Police officers try
- 9:43Speaker 6: to stop him, try to pull over his car and
- 9:45Speaker 6: he flees. Instead of where I live in Los Angeles
- 9:48Speaker 6: would have turned into a car chase. They did not
- 9:50Speaker 6: do that. They let him go, but they send an
- 9:53Speaker 6: alert out to all the other officers, all the local
- 9:55Speaker 6: police areas, Hey, we've got a car that we're looking for.
- 9:58Speaker 6: This other police lif officer notices. He says, a sergeant
- 10:02Speaker 6: is hearing that there was a young man in town
- 10:06Speaker 6: who had threatened to blow up the police department. So
- 10:09Speaker 6: they were on hi alert looking for this man. This sergeant, Okay,
- 10:14Speaker 6: wait a.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Minute, Wait a minute, Alexis Tereschuk, I feel like you're
- 10:17Speaker 1: mixing up a lot of stories. You're not, You're not.
- 10:21Speaker 1: I just need to get the order correct. I'm talking
- 10:25Speaker 1: about an officer that gets mowed down and two other
- 10:27Speaker 1: officers rammed.
- 10:29Speaker 2: That's where we get the attempt apartment.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Okay, but I heard you say threatened to blow up
- 10:33Speaker 1: the police department. You certainly got my attention on that.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Would you repeat that part? Police?
- 10:40Speaker 6: So police officer, a sergeant in the area was told
- 10:43Speaker 6: that there was a threat against the police department and
- 10:46Speaker 6: that this young man, Jana Check, had threatened to blow
- 10:50Speaker 6: up the police station, so they were on alert about
- 10:53Speaker 6: him as well.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Then he gets okay, stop right there, stop right there,
- 10:57Speaker 1: stop right there.
- 10:58Speaker 2: I'm going to circle back to you, Alexis.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Because I'm focused on the officer lying on the ground
- 11:03Speaker 1: that got rammed.
- 11:04Speaker 2: They got run over, plowed over with a g wagon.
- 11:07Speaker 1: But Ryan Brown, terroristic threat that is a serious felony.
- 11:13Speaker 8: As you're right, it is a serious felly. But you've
- 11:15Speaker 8: got to remember we're not trying these cases in the press.
- 11:18Speaker 9: Right on a case like terroristic threats, there's got to
- 11:20Speaker 9: be something that coroborates this story, right.
- 11:23Speaker 8: It can't just be, Hey, this guy threatened to blow
- 11:25Speaker 8: up the police station. Let's send in the prison for years.
- 11:27Speaker 1: No.
- 11:28Speaker 8: No, they're going to have to prove this in court
- 11:30Speaker 8: with outside evidence other than just somebody he did it.
- 11:33Speaker 8: They're going to have to have more, and we're a
- 11:35Speaker 8: long ways away case. That's why we don't try these
- 11:37Speaker 8: things on TV.
- 11:40Speaker 1: You know, Ryan Brown, nobody asked you to try the
- 11:42Speaker 1: case on TV. And earlier you mentioned that terroristic threats
- 11:45Speaker 1: were very illegal. Now I'm sorry, they're not just illegal,
- 11:50Speaker 1: they're very illegal.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Okay, note to self, Alexis Treschuk.
- 11:55Speaker 1: We've clearly gone down the garden path, but rightfully done.
- 12:01Speaker 1: A terroristic threat is very serious. I'd be curious to
- 12:05Speaker 1: find out if it was recorded, if it was on
- 12:09Speaker 1: an answer machine, if it was called in somewhere where
- 12:13Speaker 1: we have corroboration that Ryan Brown accurately described. It's necessary
- 12:18Speaker 1: to prove a terroistic threat. But we're getting far afield.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I want to get back to running over an officer down.
- 12:25Speaker 4: Listen twelve thirty nine pm Ploymouth Township Police respond to
- 12:29Speaker 4: doublete guest suites where the Mercedes G Wagon is spotted
- 12:32Speaker 4: bulling directly behind the Mercedes, activating lights. The Mercedes is
- 12:36Speaker 4: thrown into reverse and used as a battering ram multiple times.
- 12:40Speaker 4: Out of his patrol car. The officer orders Janechek to stop.
- 12:43Speaker 4: Janet jack Floor is the Mercedes attempting to hit the officer,
- 12:46Speaker 4: who discharges his firearm in defense. A bullet grazes the
- 12:50Speaker 4: head of Janicheck as he accelerates toward the officer, knocking
- 12:53Speaker 4: him to the ground.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Okay, so if a bullet did graze him, straight out
- 12:59Speaker 1: to Rob Drake, joining US behavior expert, former FBI Special
- 13:04Speaker 1: Agent Chief of the FBI Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, and
- 13:09Speaker 1: author of Sizing People Up, a veteran FBI agent's manual
- 13:14Speaker 1: for behavior prediction. You can find him at Robindreke dot com. Robin,
- 13:20Speaker 1: thank you for being with us, Robin. What personality does
- 13:26Speaker 1: this when an officer has pulled me over before? I
- 13:30Speaker 1: say yes ma'am, yes sir, and I shut my pie
- 13:32Speaker 1: hole and I do what I'm told? You know why,
- 13:35Speaker 1: because I don't want to get beaten up outside of
- 13:37Speaker 1: the car. Number one, but arguing with the cop much
- 13:41Speaker 1: less running the cop over while the cop is down.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Also the fact that he was graised when the officer
- 13:51Speaker 1: fired back. It's going to be really hard for him
- 13:54Speaker 1: to say, oh, that wasn't me with a trickle of
- 13:56Speaker 1: blood running down his forehead.
- 13:59Speaker 10: Yeah, this is We've got a couple of things going
- 14:01Speaker 10: on here. One, this is an individual clearly without guardrails.
- 14:05Speaker 10: He has no life reps and consequences for any actions whatsoever,
- 14:09Speaker 10: and zero empathy for any of the actions that he
- 14:12Speaker 10: plays out. His emotional intelligence is bottomed out at pretty
- 14:15Speaker 10: much zero, if not totally zero and under it. And
- 14:18Speaker 10: the other thing that's really curious to here is I
- 14:20Speaker 10: think they're going to find a lot more through this
- 14:22Speaker 10: investigation because he so clearly targeted law enforcement, both prior
- 14:27Speaker 10: potentially as well as during this I think there's a
- 14:30Speaker 10: reason behind that that we're not quite sure of yet
- 14:32Speaker 10: because it just doesn't fit a pattern that we've seen established.
- 14:35Speaker 5: Yet, what do you mean by that?
- 14:40Speaker 10: It's curious that all right? So here we have a
- 14:42Speaker 10: young kid without guard rails, with impulse control.
- 14:46Speaker 5: Agg why are you saying a young kid.
- 14:47Speaker 1: He's in his twenties, because you know that my Fosher
- 14:51Speaker 1: by this age, had already been all around the world
- 14:54Speaker 1: fighting for his country, had come back, was trying to
- 14:57Speaker 1: go to college, which to become an accountant and support children,
- 15:03Speaker 1: had to drop out of calls because he couldn't do
- 15:05Speaker 1: his job at the railroad and go to school. So
- 15:08Speaker 1: but you're calling Janechek a kid, and I'm curious why.
- 15:14Speaker 10: Because his mindsets that out of a five year old
- 15:15Speaker 10: without any regulation or emotional control.
- 15:17Speaker 2: I mean, you mean a spoiled brat. That does not
- 15:19Speaker 2: make him a kid, all right, So semantics on spoiled brat.
- 15:24Speaker 10: But yeah, he's so he's an adult making adult choices
- 15:27Speaker 10: as an infantile brain.
- 15:29Speaker 5: No doubt.
- 15:29Speaker 10: And it's a broken brain because it hasn't been given
- 15:31Speaker 10: US regulation, and so I really think that there's targeting
- 15:35Speaker 10: going on here, especially if there's the claims of targeting
- 15:39Speaker 10: law enforcement and wanting to bomb something. So there's a
- 15:42Speaker 10: reason why that we're not seeing yet about why this
- 15:45Speaker 10: anti law enforcement binge in his life.
- 15:48Speaker 8: I'm really curious about that.
- 15:50Speaker 1: I mean, looking, Wow, we're just showing the ramming. At first,
- 15:54Speaker 1: it didn't look too bad. Ow ooh he hit that
- 15:58Speaker 1: other car too that I'm at Kells and Dale's on TikTok,
- 16:02Speaker 1: Thanks Kills and Dale's. I'd like to see that again. Okay,
- 16:05Speaker 1: hold on, there's a cop coming up behind him, just
- 16:09Speaker 1: as we learned it the double tree Oh, runs right
- 16:11Speaker 1: into him, takes off and then oh whoa Okay, one
- 16:16Speaker 1: ramming wasn't enough.
- 16:18Speaker 2: The cop gets out fires.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Oh, and he went right at the vehicle with the cop.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Oh that that's not good. That is not good. Okay.
- 16:33Speaker 1: Dave Mack joining me, Crime Stories investigative reporter. What happens
- 16:38Speaker 1: after the video we're sitting from at Kells and Dale's
- 16:40Speaker 1: on TikTok.
- 16:41Speaker 4: After he tries to run over this officer, Nancy. The
- 16:45Speaker 4: officer is on the ground, you know, he's actually having
- 16:49Speaker 4: to put a tourniquet around his leg, that's how bad
- 16:53Speaker 4: he's bleeding. It feels like he's gonna die. And here
- 16:57Speaker 4: goes this idiot again, driving over him three times, not once,
- 17:04Speaker 4: not twice, three times. Then he pulls out of the
- 17:09Speaker 4: parking lot, back on the lamb, and of course the
- 17:13Speaker 4: APB goes out and the city everyone around there is
- 17:16Speaker 4: starting to look for this vehicle that they know who's
- 17:19Speaker 4: driving it, they know what he's already done. This is
- 17:22Speaker 4: such a dangerous situation because anybody that is willing to
- 17:25Speaker 4: purposely hurt, name try to kill a police officer, what
- 17:29Speaker 4: does that mean to the rest of us on the street.
- 17:32Speaker 4: The injured officer on the ground putting a tourniquet on
- 17:35Speaker 4: his wounded leg, Janichek circles the parking lot and heads
- 17:38Speaker 4: back to hit him again and again and again.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Three times.
- 17:43Speaker 4: Janichek runs over the defenseless officer laying on the ground,
- 17:47Speaker 4: caught on video by shocked witnesses, Janichek flees the parking lot.
- 17:51Speaker 1: He runs over the same officer three times. Did I
- 17:56Speaker 1: get that correct, alexis Terschak is that he ran over
- 18:00Speaker 1: the officer three times?
- 18:03Speaker 6: It is but these three times are after he already
- 18:06Speaker 6: hit him once. When we in the video is where
- 18:09Speaker 6: you see him backing up in the police car twice.
- 18:11Speaker 6: Well you can't see it's obstructed by the other car,
- 18:14Speaker 6: but you can see the white car there.
- 18:16Speaker 2: So he backs up.
- 18:17Speaker 5: There's the first ship.
- 18:18Speaker 2: There's the first hit right there.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Let's watch the Plymouth township vehicle. Okay, second hit. Cop
- 18:26Speaker 1: gets out of the car, fires off one shot, grazes
- 18:32Speaker 1: Jana check and now the cop and it's this is
- 18:36Speaker 1: where he's right there when he mows over the officer
- 18:40Speaker 1: for the first time. By the way, this video from
- 18:43Speaker 1: at Kills and Dell's on TikTok.
- 18:45Speaker 2: Now, this is where Dave Matt is telling us.
- 18:49Speaker 1: He circles around and does a three sixty and comes
- 18:52Speaker 1: back for more.
- 18:54Speaker 6: Alexis that's exactly right. He loops around this park that
- 18:57Speaker 6: he comes back. This officer is on the ground, as
- 18:59Speaker 6: Dave said, he's tying a tourniquet on his leg. He
- 19:02Speaker 6: is trying to stop the bleeding. It's a major artery
- 19:04Speaker 6: in your leg. So he's injured. And this guy runs
- 19:07Speaker 6: him over one, two, three times and then please, so
- 19:12Speaker 6: he has literally tried to kill him.
- 19:15Speaker 1: That video, fortunately fortuitously from at Kelsendale's on TikTok.
- 19:20Speaker 2: I want to look at that video one more time.
- 19:23Speaker 1: With one officer down and fighting for his life in
- 19:27Speaker 1: the parking lot and all points bulletin APB goes out
- 19:30Speaker 1: for the G wagon. Plymouth Township officers try to stop
- 19:36Speaker 1: an out of control driver. Doesn't work, was not successful.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Look at this, you know sometimes if you don't have
- 19:45Speaker 1: the video, no one would believe it. And off he goes,
- 19:49Speaker 1: only to do a three sixty and come back and
- 19:52Speaker 1: run over the same officer down on the ground trying
- 19:58Speaker 1: to apply a tourniquet to stop his femeral artery from
- 20:03Speaker 1: pumping out all of his blood onto the parking lot.
- 20:06Speaker 1: That video from at Kelson Dell's TikTok.
- 20:09Speaker 3: With his whole life ahead of him, Janet Check's time
- 20:11Speaker 3: at LMU has been overshadowed by risky choices. His latest
- 20:16Speaker 3: escapade involved a series of poor decisions behind the wheel
- 20:19Speaker 3: of his high end Mercedes G Wagon.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Who and H said that his poor decisions. This is
- 20:31Speaker 1: more than a poor decision. He ran over police officer
- 20:37Speaker 1: down on the ground trying to self administer a tourniquet.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Crime stories with.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, you know what to Doctor Kendall Crown's joining us.
- 20:55Speaker 1: He is a famous chief medical examiner out of Terrent
- 20:59Speaker 1: Counting Fort Worth. He is an esteemed lecturer in the
- 21:03Speaker 1: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU, and he is now
- 21:06Speaker 1: the star of a hit podcast, Mayhem in the Morgue.
- 21:11Speaker 2: The femeral artery, Explain.
- 21:13Speaker 1: What is it and how quickly can you die if
- 21:16Speaker 1: that has been severed?
- 21:19Speaker 11: So the fimlaral artery is a branch off of your aority.
- 21:23Speaker 11: It's a large vessel that runs through your thigh. It's
- 21:26Speaker 11: about the width of a little bit bigger than a pencil.
- 21:29Speaker 11: And if this artery gets torn, you can bleed out
- 21:32Speaker 11: in a manner of minutes. It's actually a very severe
- 21:35Speaker 11: artery to tear or rupture, and it often happens in
- 21:39Speaker 11: compound fractures of the femur that can occur when you
- 21:42Speaker 11: get hit by a car.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Okay, slowly down for me, doctor Crowns, because I want
- 21:46Speaker 1: to hear every word that you just said. Could you
- 21:49Speaker 1: say that really slowly? You're saying that you believe I'm extrapolating.
- 21:56Speaker 1: You're saying you believe that when the officer down was
- 22:01Speaker 1: run over. It may have broken a femur. A what's
- 22:04Speaker 1: the femur? And B how does a femur break result
- 22:08Speaker 1: in a ordinal bleeding?
- 22:12Speaker 11: Okay, the femur is the large bone in your thigh.
- 22:16Speaker 11: When you look at the video, the g wagon fits
- 22:19Speaker 11: awful high. So the bumper I feel could have hit
- 22:22Speaker 11: the officer in his thigh, causing his femur, which is
- 22:26Speaker 11: the bone in the thigh, to break. And when that breaks,
- 22:29Speaker 11: you can get a compound fracture where the fracture itself
- 22:32Speaker 11: breaks apart and then pierces the vessel and then pots
- 22:36Speaker 11: out of the skin and causes extreme hemorrhage. So the
- 22:40Speaker 11: fracture of the femur can tear the femeral artery, which
- 22:43Speaker 11: then results in hemorrhage and you can die in a
- 22:45Speaker 11: matter of metas.
- 22:46Speaker 2: The femur is about how thick.
- 22:50Speaker 11: The femur is about biggest round as a toilet paper roll,
- 22:53Speaker 11: maybe a little bit smaller.
- 22:56Speaker 1: So cracked in two, it functions as basically a spear
- 23:02Speaker 1: because the end of the femur when it's broken, is jagged.
- 23:07Speaker 1: It doesn't break nice and cleanly. That it's jagged with
- 23:11Speaker 1: points and that going into your A order, your femeral
- 23:16Speaker 1: your femeral A order would cause I guess, almost immediate death.
- 23:24Speaker 11: So you're correct. It would be like a spear because
- 23:26Speaker 11: no femur breaks or no bone breaks in a clean fracture.
- 23:30Speaker 11: And yes, it would cut through the femeral artery. You
- 23:33Speaker 11: wouldn't die immediately, but you would bleed to death in
- 23:35Speaker 11: a matter of minutes.
- 23:37Speaker 1: How many minutes if you didn't get a tourniquet on
- 23:39Speaker 1: with a severance, you seve your femeral artery how quickly?
- 23:44Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a pump.
- 23:46Speaker 1: It's like somebody's got a bike pump doing this and
- 23:49Speaker 1: the blood is just gushing out with every heartbeat how quickly?
- 23:53Speaker 1: When you say minutes, how many minutes did the officer
- 23:56Speaker 1: have before he would have bled out without.
- 23:58Speaker 11: That tourniquet, Possibly at the short end three to five,
- 24:03Speaker 11: maybe at most ten, but it is going to be
- 24:06Speaker 11: quite quickly. It's a very severe injury and it's not
- 24:09Speaker 11: something you want to mess around with, and you're going
- 24:12Speaker 11: to want to treat it as quick as you can.
- 24:15Speaker 2: Okay, refresher. You have the femeral artery.
- 24:19Speaker 5: Which is in the leg.
- 24:20Speaker 1: You have the jugular what are the other major arteries?
- 24:27Speaker 11: Major arteries is crowded artery jugular in your neck, the
- 24:32Speaker 11: brachiocephalic that's coming into your shoulders, subclavian artery as well,
- 24:37Speaker 11: which is in the kind of upper chest shoulder region.
- 24:40Speaker 11: Then you go down a ordas of course, the big
- 24:43Speaker 11: one coming off your heart, which branches into the iliac
- 24:46Speaker 11: artery in your pelvis. That then branches into the femoral
- 24:49Speaker 11: artery in your thigh, which then branches into the tibial
- 24:53Speaker 11: and it's the poploteal and tibual artery.
- 24:57Speaker 5: In your leg.
- 24:58Speaker 11: There's also the radius and ulnar argory.
- 25:00Speaker 8: In your arm.
- 25:00Speaker 11: That again, are all these arteries you don't want to
- 25:03Speaker 11: cut in half because you'll bleed out. And you know,
- 25:07Speaker 11: the smaller ones maybe a half hour or longer. The
- 25:10Speaker 11: larger ones, it's a matter of minutes.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Doctor Crown's, I'm not sure how to phrase this.
- 25:18Speaker 1: If I had you on across, I would have already
- 25:20Speaker 1: written out the question, practice it and practiced it with you.
- 25:25Speaker 1: A tourniquet a tourniquet is tied very tightly. I don't
- 25:29Speaker 1: know what the officer used as a tourniquet. You know
- 25:33Speaker 1: on TV in the movies, there's always something very handy
- 25:36Speaker 1: close by and is used to like, you know, a.
- 25:39Speaker 2: Strip of material.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Somehow this officer managed to create a tourniquet lying out
- 25:45Speaker 1: there in the parking lot. The tourniquet is tied above
- 25:50Speaker 1: the severed artery to cut off the blood pumping out right,
- 25:56Speaker 1: So isn't it true that very often when a tourniquet
- 25:59Speaker 1: is used, you end up getting that limb amputated if
- 26:04Speaker 1: it's not seen to immediately. I mean, you got to
- 26:07Speaker 1: worry about not only death, but an amputation.
- 26:12Speaker 11: That's correct, the tourniquit. He could have used his belts.
- 26:15Speaker 11: He could have used a rope from like a hoodie
- 26:18Speaker 11: or anything like that. Some officers have medical kits that
- 26:20Speaker 11: have turnkits with them, the fancy turnkits the paramedics used.
- 26:24Speaker 11: But you can use a belt and what you're doing.
- 26:27Speaker 1: I think that there's any way, Hey, while he's talking,
- 26:31Speaker 1: let me see the video again. Because the cop is
- 26:35Speaker 1: run over away from his cruiser. I don't think anyway
- 26:41Speaker 1: that he would have time keep watching that he would
- 26:44Speaker 1: have been able to crawl from the parking lot.
- 26:47Speaker 2: To get back to his cruiser to get a medical kit.
- 26:50Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about this police officer Jake Hennessy out
- 26:56Speaker 1: there on the parking floor the double tree. See how
- 27:03Speaker 1: far away his cruiser is. There's no way, with his
- 27:05Speaker 1: femeral artery spurting blood that he can get over there
- 27:09Speaker 1: for a medical kit. And he knows he's going to die.
- 27:13Speaker 2: Forget about the amputation. He's going to die.
- 27:17Speaker 1: There's no way he can get back to that cruiser
- 27:18Speaker 1: and can get a medical kit out.
- 27:20Speaker 2: So what could he have used?
- 27:21Speaker 1: By the way, thanks at kelson Dale's for this video
- 27:24Speaker 1: on TikTok.
- 27:25Speaker 5: What would he have used? His jacket?
- 27:28Speaker 2: I don't know now He's probably used his belt.
- 27:32Speaker 11: Usually tourniquits are a belt belt like, so tourniquit belt,
- 27:37Speaker 11: if you have it on you is a very good
- 27:39Speaker 11: tournique because you just put it around the limb and
- 27:41Speaker 11: you pull it tight and then that'll pinch off the
- 27:44Speaker 11: blood vessels so you can stop the hemorrhage. And if
- 27:47Speaker 11: you want to try and keep the limb alive, you'll
- 27:49Speaker 11: release the pressure over time slowly to allow the blood
- 27:53Speaker 11: to get back into the limb for a while, and
- 27:55Speaker 11: you bleed when you do that, but you can keep
- 27:57Speaker 11: the limb oxygenated or keep blood with oxygen in it
- 28:00Speaker 11: getting to the limb, so you might not have to
- 28:03Speaker 11: get an amputation. But the problem is it's depending on
- 28:06Speaker 11: the severity how long the tourniquets on. He could have lost.
- 28:10Speaker 11: He could have had above the knee amputation if his femur.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Is broken, Dear Lord in Heaven, Dave Mac, Crime Stories
- 28:19Speaker 1: investigative reporter, just think about it for a moment. Officer,
- 28:23Speaker 1: this officer, Jake Kennessey, lying out there, nobody to help him,
- 28:30Speaker 1: bleeding out from his federal artery. After this POC runs
- 28:36Speaker 1: over him and then he's out there trying to self
- 28:39Speaker 1: apply a tourniquet and the guy doubles back and runs
- 28:44Speaker 1: over him three times. How did that go down?
- 28:48Speaker 5: Dave Mac?
- 28:49Speaker 4: As we see on the video, you know there's vehicles
- 28:53Speaker 4: in the way blocking our direct view of exactly what's happening.
- 28:57Speaker 4: So we're going based on the description that is given
- 29:00Speaker 4: to us. But as he's laying there on the ground
- 29:03Speaker 4: fighting for his life, you mentioned trying to apply a tourniquet,
- 29:05Speaker 4: even though the best of circumstances, when you're not in
- 29:09Speaker 4: such an incredible time, getting a tourniquet on a leg
- 29:14Speaker 4: is not an easy feat and he's also You've got
- 29:17Speaker 4: to remember, in this whole process, he also has had
- 29:20Speaker 4: to pull out his service revolver and he is taking
- 29:22Speaker 4: shots at the windshield of this van coming towards him.
- 29:26Speaker 4: So he's fighting for his life like it's in a movie, Nancy.
- 29:30Speaker 4: And as this person aims his vehicle lining him up
- 29:36Speaker 4: to run over this officer who cannot defend himself, and
- 29:43Speaker 4: he just aimed right at him and comes at him again.
- 29:46Speaker 4: He doesn't just do it once, he does it three times. Nancy.
- 29:52Speaker 4: It is truly an attempted murder. It wasn't an accident.
- 29:59Speaker 4: He had a line up to hit this man on
- 30:01Speaker 4: the ground, totally defenseless.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Dave Max says, this is like a movie. It's no movie.
- 30:09Speaker 1: If I hadn't seen the video from at Kells and
- 30:12Speaker 1: Dale's on TikTok, we're showing you many people would not
- 30:15Speaker 1: have believed it.
- 30:17Speaker 5: You better believe it.
- 30:19Speaker 4: The injured officer on the ground, putting a tourniquet on
- 30:21Speaker 4: his wounded leg, Janichek circles the parking lot and heads
- 30:25Speaker 4: back to hit him again and again and again three times.
- 30:30Speaker 4: Jane Check runs over the defenseless officer laying on the ground.
- 30:33Speaker 4: Caught on video by shocked witnesses, Jani Jack flees the
- 30:37Speaker 4: parking lot.
- 30:37Speaker 3: In a shocking display of recklessness. Jani Check tore down
- 30:41Speaker 3: the street in his luxury suv, attracting the attention of
- 30:44Speaker 3: law enforcement. Instead of complying with officers, he chose to flee,
- 30:48Speaker 3: leaving chaos and serious injuries in his wake.
- 30:54Speaker 5: Again, who is that?
- 30:56Speaker 2: First?
- 30:56Speaker 1: He said, a lapse in judgment. I think now I
- 30:59Speaker 1: said recklessness. Ryan Brown joining me veteran trial lawyer, criminal
- 31:04Speaker 1: defense attorney at Jaryanbrownlaw dot Com.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Recklessness. No, this is intentional.
- 31:12Speaker 1: I would argue this was intentional because you break it down.
- 31:18Speaker 1: He puts the car reverse, that was the conscious decision,
- 31:21Speaker 1: slams into the officer's vehicle, then forward, then back, then
- 31:27Speaker 1: forward to run over the officer, then does the three sixty,
- 31:31Speaker 1: comes back and runs over him three times. This is
- 31:35Speaker 1: not negligence. This is an intentional act times three.
- 31:41Speaker 8: You keep saying that word intentional.
- 31:42Speaker 9: I think that's where the defense is going to start,
- 31:44Speaker 9: is by attacking whether he's intentionally making these decisions or not,
- 31:49Speaker 9: whether there's some sort of snap that's happening in his head.
- 31:52Speaker 9: He's having some sort of mental breakdown or something. He
- 31:54Speaker 9: doesn't know what he's going on?
- 31:56Speaker 5: Came up?
- 31:57Speaker 1: Did you say snap? You've been watching two months too
- 32:00Speaker 1: much Oxygen? Man, There is no such thing as snap.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Snap is the name of a program on Oxygen where
- 32:09Speaker 1: women have finally had it and they kill their partner.
- 32:12Speaker 2: That's what snap is.
- 32:14Speaker 5: There.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Do you know one official code section that has the
- 32:19Speaker 1: word snap in it as a defense?
- 32:21Speaker 5: Oh?
- 32:21Speaker 2: I snapped? I'm about to snap right now? Does that's
- 32:25Speaker 2: not a defense?
- 32:26Speaker 5: I snapped?
- 32:28Speaker 9: Snaps may not be, but it's certainly a defense if
- 32:30Speaker 9: you don't know what you're doing, and if you can't
- 32:32Speaker 9: make decisions with the knowing what's right or wrong.
- 32:33Speaker 8: And I think that's exactly where the defense is going.
- 32:36Speaker 8: He can't intentionally make these decisions wrong.
- 32:39Speaker 5: Then why did he flee? Ryan?
- 32:43Speaker 2: It was wrong?
- 32:44Speaker 5: Why did he flee?
- 32:46Speaker 8: He came back around for more? He didn't flee, He
- 32:48Speaker 8: left and came back around for more.
- 32:51Speaker 1: And then what did he do after he ran over
- 32:53Speaker 1: the officer three times?
- 32:54Speaker 2: What did he do? Ryan Brown?
- 32:56Speaker 8: Wait? Runs after he's getting shot at?
- 32:58Speaker 5: No, he had already been he fled? Go ahead?
- 33:01Speaker 1: Or can you bring yourself to say it? He fled
- 33:05Speaker 1: because he knew.
- 33:07Speaker 2: What he had done was wrong.
- 33:09Speaker 1: There you go, That's what I call a fleeing fellon, Okay,
- 33:13Speaker 1: but it didn't end there.
- 33:15Speaker 4: Listen with one officer down fighting for his life in
- 33:19Speaker 4: the parking lot and APB goes out for the Mercedes
- 33:21Speaker 4: g Wagon. Plymouth Township officers attempt to stop the out
- 33:24Speaker 4: of control driver. Janitcheck attempts to flee, using his Mercedes
- 33:28Speaker 4: as a weapon, crashing head on into a Plymouth patrol vehicle,
- 33:31Speaker 4: injuring a second officer, sending him to the hospital.
- 33:37Speaker 1: Alexis Terschuk what so he leaves the officer lying in
- 33:42Speaker 1: the ground bleeding.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Jay Kennessey, Then he does what?
- 33:50Speaker 6: Then he flees and the police start chasing him. And
- 33:52Speaker 6: then he sees a police car that is parked and
- 33:55Speaker 6: he plows into it head on, just drives into it
- 33:57Speaker 6: straight head on and smashes the police who was also
- 34:00Speaker 6: injured in his legs because he's sitting in the car
- 34:04Speaker 6: and when with the force of the g wagon hitting it,
- 34:07Speaker 6: it hurts him and he is injured in his legs.
- 34:10Speaker 1: Joining me now is doctor Angela Arnold, a steam psychiatrist
- 34:15Speaker 1: at angela Arnold MD dot Com from a professor at
- 34:20Speaker 1: Emory University, former medical director of the psychiatric clinic at
- 34:25Speaker 1: Grady Memorial Hospital. Never a lack of business at Grady,
- 34:31Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold. This guy the brat, the pearl wearing
- 34:35Speaker 1: brat with one hundred and thirty three thousand dollars Mercedes
- 34:38Speaker 1: g wagon.
- 34:39Speaker 2: That one.
- 34:41Speaker 1: The spawn of the partner at Lewis brisboy.
- 34:47Speaker 2: He has been.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Categorized as having a lapse in judgment and acting recklessly.
- 34:53Speaker 1: That's certainly putting perfume on the pig, is it not.
- 34:57Speaker 12: He is twenty one years old, know right from wrong.
- 35:01Speaker 12: His mind has developed enough to know right from wrong, Nancy.
- 35:05Speaker 12: He has never had a consequence for any of his actions.
- 35:08Speaker 12: If you can run a police officer down, then you
- 35:12Speaker 12: don't care for anyone else on the face of this earth.
- 35:16Speaker 12: And now that this boy has finally been caught doing
- 35:19Speaker 12: something like this, and then he's done this, I shudder
- 35:22Speaker 12: to see what his past is going to show about him.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Daughter, Angie, I know you've seen this.
- 35:28Speaker 1: How the parents have a child, they do everything they
- 35:31Speaker 1: can to raise it correctly.
- 35:34Speaker 2: They you know, put it in a good school.
- 35:36Speaker 1: They fuss it up when it does something wrong. Why
- 35:39Speaker 1: am I hearing something. It's like a gnat. Oh it
- 35:41Speaker 1: isidra angie. They make it, go to church or synagogue.
- 35:46Speaker 1: They try to teach it right for wrong, but yet
- 35:48Speaker 1: deep down they know there's something wrong that's and they
- 35:53Speaker 1: don't know what to do with the child, so they
- 35:57Speaker 1: just keep on plowing forward. I don't know if the
- 36:01Speaker 1: parents had any idea, not Angela Arnold. You haven't treated
- 36:06Speaker 1: this guy. I haven't treated this guy. I don't know
- 36:09Speaker 1: that he is a sociopath. But what is the textbook
- 36:13Speaker 1: definition of a sociopath.
- 36:16Speaker 12: A sociopath is someone who does not have They're not
- 36:20Speaker 12: driven by a conscience, so when they do things, they
- 36:24Speaker 12: don't see the difference between right and wrong in doing something.
- 36:28Speaker 12: The reason I said that that could certainly be in
- 36:32Speaker 12: his differential diagnosis is because Nancy there, we all know
- 36:36Speaker 12: that if you are going to run over a police officer,
- 36:40Speaker 12: there is no telling what you would do to someone
- 36:44Speaker 12: walking down the street the sidewalk.
- 36:48Speaker 2: You mean a regular person, not somebody.
- 36:50Speaker 5: With a shield.
- 36:56Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Robin Drake joining US behavior expert,
- 37:03Speaker 1: former FBI special agent and author.
- 37:07Speaker 2: What do you make of all this?
- 37:09Speaker 10: What we have is a total lack of impulse control
- 37:12Speaker 10: that has been just exasperated by the people that he's
- 37:15Speaker 10: been around. You know, and the ancient philosopher Gerta once said,
- 37:18Speaker 10: you know, tell me who you can sort with, and
- 37:19Speaker 10: I'll tell you who you are. So you don't want
- 37:22Speaker 10: to blame the parents. You don't have to blame anyone
- 37:24Speaker 10: because he's totally in control of his own actions and
- 37:27Speaker 10: his own choices. But I guarantee you as they start
- 37:30Speaker 10: doing this investigation, diving deeper, he's going to be surrounded
- 37:33Speaker 10: by a lot of people with a lot of similar
- 37:34Speaker 10: thought processes as his and his This is what evil
- 37:38Speaker 10: incarnate looks like when you are willing to I mean,
- 37:41Speaker 10: just think about this. He left the scene where he
- 37:43Speaker 10: mowed down an officer he shot at, grazed in the head,
- 37:48Speaker 10: and then as he's thinking in that little brain he has,
- 37:51Speaker 10: as he's leaving, he thinks it's a great idea to
- 37:54Speaker 10: turn around, go back and finish the job. That is
- 37:57Speaker 10: someone extremely broken brain going on.
- 38:02Speaker 1: Earlier, I was duking it out with Ryan Brown, criminal
- 38:05Speaker 1: defense attorney on a terroristic threat. To prove a terroristic threat,
- 38:11Speaker 1: you must have corroboration to support the claim. But I
- 38:17Speaker 1: think we've got it, and yet another alleged threat, multiple
- 38:23Speaker 1: witnesses hearing the threat. By the way, this video from
- 38:26Speaker 1: at Kels and Dell's on TikTok.
- 38:28Speaker 5: Listen to this.
- 38:29Speaker 4: Janet Jack, the twenty one year old screaming at police,
- 38:32Speaker 4: I will kill you, is taken to the hospital to
- 38:35Speaker 4: be treated. The officer Janicheck allegedly ran over three times
- 38:38Speaker 4: has to be airlifted to an intensive care unit for
- 38:40Speaker 4: the first of what doctors say will be several life
- 38:43Speaker 4: saving surgeries. The second officer injured in the head on
- 38:46Speaker 4: collision is ambulance to the hospital with injuries to both legs.
- 38:49Speaker 4: Dalton Janecheck is no stranger to local police. In the
- 38:52Speaker 4: week before his arrest, he's been involved in several incidents
- 38:55Speaker 4: in the area, including a threat to bomb a police station,
- 38:58Speaker 4: multiple brushes with the all while driving, including speeding at
- 39:02Speaker 4: more than eighty five miles per hour, careless driving, and
- 39:04Speaker 4: driving without a license. His criminal complaint notes that police
- 39:08Speaker 4: were familiar with Janichek and the white Mercedes G wagon
- 39:11Speaker 4: he operates.
- 39:14Speaker 1: People all over the world have nothing and this guy
- 39:19Speaker 1: with everything, According to reports, has done nothing but terrorize others.
- 39:28Speaker 1: Ending now with the police officer being era lifted having
- 39:32Speaker 1: been run over three times. What a life of privilege
- 39:37Speaker 1: he has enjoyed so far.
- 39:39Speaker 4: Janicheck lives a life of privilege with high flying famous
- 39:42Speaker 4: attorney father Lee Janicheck and growing up in a one
- 39:45Speaker 4: point four million dollar home. Janetjeck graduated from LaSalle College
- 39:49Speaker 4: High School in Widmore, then spent two years at Loyal
- 39:52Speaker 4: and Merrymount on the rowing team. Grandfather, doctor Lee Janijek,
- 39:55Speaker 4: the longest serving commissioner in Springfield Township, retiring in twenty
- 39:59Speaker 4: nineteen after forty four years of public service. Janet Check
- 40:03Speaker 4: left Loyal and Merrymount after two years, without revealing why
- 40:06Speaker 4: he left college. Janet Jackie working at a local restaurant recently,
- 40:09Speaker 4: but left that job and was living at.
- 40:11Speaker 2: The Double Tree Hotel.
- 40:13Speaker 1: Specifically Alexis Tereschuk Crime Stories investigative reporter. There have been
- 40:18Speaker 1: I think eleven criminal charges as twenty twenty three.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Would that be accurate?
- 40:23Speaker 6: That would be There have been speeding, there have been
- 40:26Speaker 6: changing the license plate on your car. It's all been
- 40:30Speaker 6: related to the car. Multiple driving, I believe it was
- 40:33Speaker 6: without insurance and perhaps one time with a suspended license.
- 40:36Speaker 6: So it's all around him, driving and multiple run ins
- 40:40Speaker 6: with the law.
- 40:41Speaker 1: Now, just recently there was a bid for bail a
- 40:45Speaker 1: bond in court.
- 40:47Speaker 2: Alexis what happened.
- 40:48Speaker 6: The judge denied that. He said, absolutely not. You're not
- 40:51Speaker 6: getting out on any amount of money. No money. He
- 40:53Speaker 6: has to stay in jail for now.
- 40:55Speaker 1: At one point during his most recent incident, Jennet allegedly
- 41:01Speaker 1: told police put me in the car or I'll kill you. Okay,
- 41:07Speaker 1: Ryan Brown, you got your work cut out for you
- 41:09Speaker 1: on this one.
- 41:09Speaker 2: That's like what the third terroristic threat?
- 41:12Speaker 9: Yeah, certainly, you know they start to pile up. But again,
- 41:15Speaker 9: if the defense is going to be, which I believe
- 41:18Speaker 9: it will, that that he's got a mental health problem
- 41:21Speaker 9: that keeps him from knowing right from wrong.
- 41:23Speaker 8: And know everybody's assumed, oh he knows right from wrong.
- 41:25Speaker 8: He's old enough.
- 41:26Speaker 9: There are plenty of adults who cannot, for whatever mental
- 41:29Speaker 9: health reason, determine what's right and what's wrong. And if
- 41:33Speaker 9: so that, you know, that's all you can't tell the
- 41:36Speaker 9: right from wrong, and that's what they're doing.
- 41:37Speaker 1: Wait, are you let me see him again? Do I
- 41:42Speaker 1: look like I just fell off the turnip truck? You
- 41:47Speaker 1: are trying to use the old McNaughton rule verbiage, which
- 41:52Speaker 1: was brought over to the US from British common law.
- 41:56Speaker 1: You just quoted the litmus test for in the insaneanity defense?
- 42:00Speaker 1: Did you know right or wrong at the time of
- 42:02Speaker 1: the incident? What do you actually think? I don't know
- 42:06Speaker 1: what you're talking about. That does not apply here Archie
- 42:11Speaker 1: Tipperary insanity.
- 42:13Speaker 9: Everyone keeps saying he knew the difference, and I don't
- 42:15Speaker 9: think we know that yet. I think we've got to
- 42:17Speaker 9: investigate this and find out.
- 42:19Speaker 1: Okay, Robin Drake and doctor Angie Arnold, we can see
- 42:23Speaker 1: where the defense is going. That's why Ryan Brown has
- 42:25Speaker 1: won so many cases.
- 42:26Speaker 2: Did you notice he said that with a completely straight face.
- 42:28Speaker 2: It's amazing. So, Robin Drake, he is mixing up various criminal.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Defenses and he's using the litmus insanity defense? Do you
- 42:38Speaker 1: know right from wrong at the time of the incident?
- 42:40Speaker 1: If he didn't know it was wrong, Wife Lee the scene,
- 42:43Speaker 1: he would have just sat in his g wagon enjoyed
- 42:46Speaker 1: the ambiance. It's two hundred thousand dollars car, So could
- 42:50Speaker 1: you make sense of what we are learning?
- 42:53Speaker 2: Tony A.
- 42:55Speaker 1: The cops lived, including the one that had to be airlifted,
- 42:59Speaker 1: so his leg has not been amputated. We're on standby
- 43:05Speaker 1: to see how all three of the cops are doing.
- 43:07Speaker 2: But I want to focus on the spawn.
- 43:12Speaker 5: What do you make of him?
- 43:14Speaker 10: Yeah, the fact that he's still circled around after he
- 43:17Speaker 10: did the first assault and ran over multiple times. You know,
- 43:21Speaker 10: as soon as the good lawyer was talking about, you know, insanity,
- 43:25Speaker 10: the only thing I started thinking of is like Lori
- 43:27Speaker 10: dabel Valo, they didn't find her insane, and Brian Coberg
- 43:31Speaker 10: they didn't find him insane, and they killed people left
- 43:33Speaker 10: and right. And so the chances of him being able
- 43:36Speaker 10: to get off on that after he circled back around
- 43:39Speaker 10: and doubled down on trying to kill this cop after
- 43:41Speaker 10: multiple threats, and then later on rammed another car, I
- 43:45Speaker 10: think it's a big stretch at they'll never.
- 43:47Speaker 1: Make Speaking of various defenses, this reminds me almost a
- 43:53Speaker 1: fingerprint of another young privileged man who mows down victims
- 43:58Speaker 1: allegedly bomb Remember him, I'll never forget.
- 44:02Speaker 13: And listen, I remember getting a call that night saying,
- 44:07Speaker 13: you know, don't freak out, there's been an accident and
- 44:11Speaker 13: we think it was Ash's car. So I immediately drove
- 44:15Speaker 13: down there.
- 44:16Speaker 8: I was like to have new.
- 44:18Speaker 13: Family, all their families out of state. You know, they
- 44:22Speaker 13: need someone in Bridge and met me at Bridge, met
- 44:24Speaker 13: at the scene or as close to the scene as
- 44:27Speaker 13: we could get. But we just sat on the curb
- 44:30Speaker 13: all night, not really knowing what was going on. But
- 44:34Speaker 13: then you know, news broken. Once we hadn't heard from
- 44:36Speaker 13: them for a couple hours.
- 44:38Speaker 5: Because we were.
- 44:39Speaker 13: Always in contact with our friends, we knew that that
- 44:41Speaker 13: something was wrong.
- 44:42Speaker 3: The son of medical executive Chris Boham, Fraser Bohm grew
- 44:45Speaker 3: up in Malibu, California, surrounded by the rich and famous,
- 44:48Speaker 3: living in a nearly nine million dollar Sea Cliff Malibu estate.
- 44:52Speaker 3: The six foot four inch Boem was a star baseball
- 44:54Speaker 3: player at Oaks Christian School in La prep school with
- 44:57Speaker 3: a thirty one thousand dollars a year to wish. Boehm
- 45:01Speaker 3: had celebrated his twenty second birthday days before crashing his
- 45:04Speaker 3: cherry red twenty sixteen BMW into four sorority sisters, killing
- 45:09Speaker 3: them instantly. The BMW was gifted to him for his
- 45:13Speaker 3: eighteenth birthday.
- 45:14Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about what
- 45:19Speaker 1: happened to these three officers, if you were a witness,
- 45:23Speaker 1: if you were in the DoubleTree Hotel looking out the
- 45:25Speaker 1: window anything. The case is being built now please contact
- 45:31Speaker 1: Whitpain PD six one zero two seven nine nine zero
- 45:36Speaker 1: three three repeat six one zero two seventy nine nine
- 45:41Speaker 1: zero three three.
- 45:43Speaker 2: We remember an American hero.
- 45:45Speaker 1: Deputy Shriff Joshua Bushers, Jackson County Sheriffs, Mississippi, killed in
- 45:51Speaker 1: the line of duty after twenty one years on the force,
- 45:55Speaker 1: leaving behind two children without a dad. Sheriff Joshua for
- 46:01Speaker 1: shars Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.