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- 0:00Have you thought about who's gonna be your birth partner?
- 0:02I have seen all different types: the anxious, the calm, the fighter, like so many different types.
- 0:08And I recently had my third baby, and this was the first time that I had someone other than my husband in the room.
- 0:13The first baby we had, it was just my husband in the room.
- 0:16I thought I'd wanted my mom, and then I felt at that point it might not be fair to have my mom and not his mom, and all of these things came into play, and the easiest thing was to go with just my husband.
- 0:26During COVID, it was again just my husband, and this time because they'd limited the number of birth partners.
- 0:30So now this was a real opportunity for me to have a second birth partner for me, not thinking about family politics, not thinking about who should be in the room, who shouldn't, who deserves to see the baby first, any of that.
- 0:40And I went to my sisters.
- 0:42Now before I go into this video, I should tell you who I am.
- 0:45My name is Remi.
- 0:46I'm an obstetrics and gynecology doctor with more than 10 years of experience.
- 0:50I'm now a mother of three, and on this channel I just want you to navigate the pregnancy and the postpartum period with safety, clarity, and support.
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- 1:02If you've had the baby, I have a, recovery check-in for you which will tell you where you are on your recovery journey after having a baby and what things you should focus on in the next 7 to 30 days.
- 1:12But let's go back to the video.
- 1:13So I went to my group chat with my sisters and I said,"Who wants to be in the room when I'm having the baby?" And for me it was a great opportunity to have one of my sisters present, I love my sisters, to have some female support in the room, and to just have another person.
- 1:25And not replace my husband,'cause he's a great birth partner, but just to add a different flavor and a different sense to the room.
- 1:30And I will talk about that a bit later on.
- 1:32In this WhatsApp group there was a lot of I don't wanna be there.
- 1:35I'm scared.
- 1:36It's gonna be gross," blah, blah, blah.
- 1:38But one sister volunteered, and I'll tell you a little bit later in this video what she actually provided for me in the laboring room.
- 1:44But coming back to my doctor hat, I've seen so many different types of birth partners.
- 1:48And given the experience I've just had, I wanna make sure that you leave this video with a set of questions for the people that you are going to choose, you choose to have in the room to make sure that you are supported, you are heard, and you have as close to an experience as you would like when you're having a baby I have made a series of my pregnancy journey so far, and I will go on to make one about my postpartum journey.
- 2:11And again, this is all to give you some safety points, give you some clarity where you are on your journey, and support you.
- 2:17I had an induction.
- 2:18I was booked for an induction.
- 2:19And I went to the hospital and told my sister it was time for her to come because they were now at the stage where they could break my water, send me to the labor ward.
- 2:26My girl came in with a handbag, some fruit, and a pasta salad that I'd asked for.
- 2:30I kinda was like,"Where's your suitcase?"'Cause this girl had no intention of staying beyond a few hours.
- 2:37I don't think she really clocked that labor could take 12 hours, a whole day, and I'm not quite sure what she would've done if it went on for much longer than it actually did.
- 2:46But she kinda skipped into the room, really with no expectation.
- 2:49And I had no expectation of her as well because for me it was an opportunity for, yes, to have a different energy in the room, but also for one of my sisters to see and experience birth.
- 2:57Because I do this every day for work.
- 3:00This is something that unless, like, you're having a baby yourself, you're never really gonna get a real vibe for.
- 3:05And what they show you on TV is just not real But my sister and my husband were with me as we waited for my waters to be broken, just general chitchat.
- 3:13And then obviously as my waters broke and my contractions picked up, things became real.
- 3:18And so I'd kinda told my sister,"Look, take pictures'cause I really wanna experience it." I told my husband to take pictures as well.
- 3:24And one of them delivered and the other did not.
- 3:27And that's fine because they're also two different personalities.
- 3:29My husband isn't a picture-taker, to be fair.
- 3:31But it was like I wanted to make sure that my girls could see what labor had been like for me, see what their brother was like, all of this stuff.
- 3:38And for me to have like things to look back on,'cause this whole pregnancy I've really enjoyed looking back at my first daughter, my second daughter, and it's something that I'm not usually quite sentimental but it wasn't something that I thought I'd enjoy looking through.
- 3:50So I definitely wanted pictures or videos of what I feel was going to be m- my last ever sort of labor or delivery.
- 3:58And she delivered on that.
- 3:59And what was unexpected for me was that she was also just doing things without being asked.
- 4:04And again, like I will keep saying, she's different from my husband but they're both good.
- 4:09So my husband's more of a solid presence in the room and she was very much like a, What can I do for you?" type of presence.
- 4:18So there were times where I was in pain, and obviously your sisters just react to things differently, she would like run in to rub my back before I'd even ask.
- 4:27She was speaking up for me with the midwife when it wasn't super clear that I'd been heard.
- 4:32And just like those little nuances.
- 4:34Whereas my husband who's also a doctor as well is not phased by labor so was very much just observing, being that quiet, solid presence.
- 4:43And very much aware of what's going to happen next, like this is not his first rodeo.
- 4:47And he was unflappable.
- 4:48And again, I think you need that as well.
- 4:50And I will list the different types of characters that I've seen on the labor ward and which people you really don't want in the room, with you at all as we go through this video at one point I'd asked for an epidural, I'd said it a couple of times, and I think my husband just trusted that they were gonna do it.
- 5:05But the midwife been like,"Oh, are you sure you don't wanna wait?
- 5:08Are you sure you don't wanna give it some more time?
- 5:09I think you can do this, Remy.
- 5:11I think you can do this." And my sister was like,"Why do you keep asking her?
- 5:14She wants an epidural.
- 5:16Why are you against it?" And I think even those words, the midwife at that point was like,"No, no, no, I'm not against it.
- 5:22And after that she didn't bring it up again, which I felt was good'cause no one had withheld the epidural from me.
- 5:28But I did definitely get a sense that the midwife didn't approve of the epidural.
- 5:33And not that I cared, but having that statement from my sister reaffirmed me and also silenced her and I think that's, that's the importance of sort of quiet advocacy.
- 5:42You're challenging without fighting, without being rude, but getting the point across.
- 5:46And again, I think it helps to change the mood in the room.
- 5:49So as I list the different types of birth partners I've seen, and experienced myself, I want you to be asking this question: Is this the right person for me?
- 5:59In your pregnancy and you'll have an idea of people that you would want in the room with you, and you loving them and them loving you is not enough of an excuse for them to be present at what is typically a really stressful time.
- 6:11What you want is who is going to prioritize my stability over their discomfort, because they can become uncomfortable whilst in the room.
- 6:19So the different types of people I've seen when walking into labor wards is the calm anchor, which I think I describe my husband as.
- 6:26Just someone who's present, who's there, you know they have your back, but they don't need to be loud about it.
- 6:31And they understand what's going on, and if they're concerned they will chime in with the right questions at the right time.
- 6:37So there is that, and I think that type of person is good, especially if you're an anxious personality.
- 6:41If you're a quiet personality and so you might want someone to speak up for you, you might want someone else in the room with you as well as your calm anchor I've seen other people who are quite attentive, so understand what's being said, can, I'd say, not a translator because obviously you as the pregnant person, you know what's going on.
- 6:59But they're attentive, they're listening to the plans from the doctors and the midwives.
- 7:02They understand why they're saying the next thing and they can ask gently, why are we doing this?
- 7:07What are the options?
- 7:08What are the alternatives?" That's a really good person to have in the room, and I think a partner typically plays that role because they have your interest and the baby's interest at heart, and they wanna know why that next intervention has been suggested.
- 7:21So I think that's really important to have that type of person in the room And then you could have the person who's more practical"Have some water.
- 7:27Let me rub your back.
- 7:28Have a quick grape." Again, great person to have in the room.
- 7:31I've seen that be sisters, friends, partners, doulas even when they're really, like, hands-on.
- 7:36I think that's that's the type of person that if I walk into a room and see, I'm like,"Oh, that's sweet." Like, that person really knows to care for them.
- 7:43Now sometimes that practical support person could also be really jittery and nervous and have a lot of nervous energy, and the only way they know how to express is by doing something.
- 7:52And sometimes I've seen women become overwhelmed by someone offering them water every 30 seconds or rubbing their back or patting their head when they don't want it.
- 8:02And if your partner is likely to fall into that I'm nervous, I'm gonna do stuff trap, it's having a really clear conversation that like,"Yes, I want you to do these things, but actually at a point it can become irritating." I remember my first labor when I was laboring at home, one of my sisters was rubbing my back, like we were still at home, and I was just like,"Get your hand off me." Like, it just wasn't something I wanted at that time.
- 8:23And being with someone who knows when to give and knows when to withdraw is also really important So going down that sort of anxious energy, there are some people who are super anxious, super nervous, they don't know what to do with themselves, and they can veer on being super helpful.
- 8:38But they can also veer on being super unhelpful.
- 8:41So they're so nervous or anxious that they're likely to faint themselves.
- 8:45Like, there are times where I've run in to a fainting partner whilst the woman's pushing.
- 8:50Bro, we are not here for you.
- 8:51Like, we do not have the energy for you at this point in time.
- 8:55Let's focus on the woman at hand.
- 8:56And I'll never ever, ever forget where the emergency buzzer was pulled because a partner fainted.
- 9:01We run into the room and the woman is actively pushing.
- 9:04The head is close to being delivered.
- 9:06And she leans up from bed to look over to see that her partner's okay and starts freaking out about her partner.
- 9:13And we're all like,"No, no, no.
- 9:14Focus.
- 9:14He's fine.
- 9:15He's just fainted.
- 9:16This baby needs to come out.
- 9:18Let's focus on the issue at hand." And so anxiety in a partner could be a good thing, but it can also be really bad and really distracting.
- 9:24And if you know you're with someone who's prone to fainting, who doesn't like looking at blood Like, the number of times I've walked into a room and the partner's, like, gazed through the window'cause he, he's scared, then just don't have them there.
- 9:35Let them stay home.
- 9:36Like, I think we've normalized in modern, in the modern society that the partner, the father has to be there.
- 9:43But if you go back years, and even in some cultures and society now, the men aren't allowed in the room.
- 9:47It's just for the women, and then they come and see the baby afterwards.
- 9:50And that has to be okay sometimes, and it doesn't have to be him.
- 9:54So I do think knowing who you're with, yes, they'll wanna be present, yes, they'll wanna be involved, but if their personality and disposition doesn't cater for that, then don't put them through it.
- 10:05Don't put yourself through it.
- 10:06And now other things I've seen, the angry birth partner.
- 10:09And so this, again, person is probably nervous, underlying nervous.
- 10:13They don't want anything to go wrong with their partner.
- 10:16They don't want anything to go wrong with their baby.
- 10:18And they're in an environment which they feel like they've got little control over.
- 10:21And that nervousness comes out as anger.
- 10:24And so I've seen this play out if, say, the woman's in pain, and they're waiting for an epidural, and it's just taking a really long time to come.
- 10:31And instead of them trying to help soothe and make the person who's in pain relaxed, they then start shouting at the midwife, shouting at the doctor, walking out the room, stomping up and down And what that does is it contributes to a negative environment.
- 10:45It interferes with how the midwife and the doctors then interact with the birthing person.
- 10:50And I know you should think that clinicians are bigger than that, but no, every atmosphere in a birthing room is co-created through if a midwife or the doctor is super rude, And therefore the birthing person is super defensive, not interacting, that's a co-creation of a situation, and vice versa.
- 11:08So where there is anger, I often think that does affect not just the experience of the birthing person, but sometimes to an extent can affect the outcome, of the birth as well.
- 11:18Picking someone who you think is likely to inflame a situation is not ideal.
- 11:23And speaking as someone who's been on the other end of partners shouting and pointing fingers in their face, it's just not great for the person who's delivering at all.
- 11:33It doesn't help them feel more calm, feel more seen, feel more protected.
- 11:38And I can completely understand that doesn't always stem up from anger, can sometimes come from nerves, but it's not helpful.
- 11:45And so what we would say is advocacy then becomes combative.
- 11:49And I think on the other side of that, a true advocate understands what's going on, understands the need of the person having the baby, and can communicate that clearly and respectfully for everyone involved so that the person feels safe, seen, and heard.
- 12:03And I just think that's ultimately the aim.
- 12:05Like, when you're picking someone to support and represent you whilst you're having a baby, you want to feel safe, you wanna feel seen, and you wanna feel heard, and you want a good outcome, of course And the last person I tend to see, is like the detached spectator.
- 12:18And I've called it that because in this day, or distracted spectator, in this day and age, like we're all on our phones.
- 12:24You'll have your phone with you.
- 12:25You'll have your laptop with you.
- 12:27And I had to have a really honest conversation with my husband, like,"I don't want you to be dealing with anything work-related while I'm in labor," because his work doesn't finish at a typical nine to five.
- 12:36And he understood that.
- 12:38But if you have someone that's constantly on their phone, on their laptop whilst you're having a baby, that is so unhelpful.
- 12:44And I've been in rooms where I go in, introduce myself as a doctor, speaking to the woman who's having the baby, and their partner is on their phone or on their laptop, not engaged, not asking questions, and it's like, why are you here?
- 12:57Like, if you're not gonna help the person there, go home and just come back and see the born baby.
- 13:01Do us all a favor And so I think the six questions that you wanna ask before choosing someone, firstly is can I be completely myself?
- 13:10Can I be frightened?
- 13:11Can I be exposed both emotionally and physically to this person, and will I still have their support?
- 13:16Can I be angry?
- 13:18Can I be unreasonable around this person?
- 13:21Can I lose it and that person will still just stand there and hold my hand and support me?
- 13:26Like, I've sometimes seen mums, so the mother of the birthing person in the room, who is, like, shushing the woman, telling her to behave, storming out, picking that time to have a family fight.
- 13:36You don't need any of that extra stress.
- 13:38So can I be my full self?
- 13:40Do I feel like I need to censor myself around this person?
- 13:43Like, those are really good questions to ask to know for sure if you're picking the right person.
- 13:49Another thing I say that you should ask is do they calm me or do I regulate them?
- 13:53And I think, again, if you have a parent who is super emotional and they're in the room with you, and then you're parentified and having to calm them down, not good for you.
- 14:03Same with your partner.
- 14:04Same with a sister or a friend.
- 14:05If you're the calm friend and you're the one that has to regulate them, don't have them in the room.
- 14:10Have them see the baby afterwards Can they listen to me?
- 14:12Like truly listen, not, Oh, you said I want an epidural," and then they're like,"Well, the pros and cons of an epidural are blah, blah, blah, blah." But like can they hear you and take action as opposed to project manage you?
- 14:23That's another really good question that you should be asking yourself the next one would be can they advocate for me without creating conflict?
- 14:30So can they express my needs and my wants without it being a fight?
- 14:34Can they speak properly?
- 14:35Again, not for the benefit of the staff, although you should be respectful, but also just for the benefit of the atmosphere.
- 14:41Like, you don't want your partner shouting at the midwife and then two seconds later you're then asking the midwife for, like, some water and whatever.
- 14:48Like, of course, it's their duty, they have to do it, but the atmosphere in the room I think needs to be preserved, and your birth partner can help with that And if plans change, as they can in labor, can this person cope or will they be a nervous wreck?
- 14:58Can they understand that things might change and they need to be your steady rock as it's changing and not losing their head and not making you feel worse or even more nervous, right?
- 15:10Like again, when we're doing cesarean sections, if the man is super nervous, all the woman really can see at that point is the anesthetist, so the doctor who does the epidural or spinal, and their partner, and the rest is a blue curtain.
- 15:21So what you want them is to see a solid smiling face.
- 15:25And the anesthetic doctor tends to do that really well, but you also want your partner or the person that you've chose to support you in the birth to do that.
- 15:31And I just think there's no shame in not having your partner present.
- 15:34Like, it really doesn't have to be him.
- 15:36I've seen so many birth partners, whether they're sisters, mothers, doulas, like, and the person on the other end of it does feel supported Will they be available?
- 15:45And can they be available for a long time?
- 15:47And so I think this is the bit that I didn't convey to my sister.
- 15:49Like, she cleared her calendar, which was great, but, I didn't tell her that it could be 12 hours.
- 15:53So that person needs to know it could be 12 hours, it could be two days.
- 15:56Like, can they actually be with you and support you and stay a- well, not stay awake,'cause you all have to sleep, but, be on when they're needed to be on.
- 16:04Can they do that?
- 16:05I think that's an important thing to consider So once you've chosen the person, make sure that your birth preferences are clear.
- 16:11So preferences, like your plan and your preferences, and talk them through it.
- 16:14So your preferences are fluid and flex, and I've definitely seen partners who have literally refused on behalf of their partner for an epidural, being adamant, like,"You said you didn't want it.
- 16:27You said you didn't want it." And then the person being like,"Yeah, you're right.
- 16:30I don't want it." And then an hour later they'll ask for it again, and then they get talked down.
- 16:34No.
- 16:35There has to be room for flexibility, and The person you pick to be in the room with you has to allow you change your mind when you have new information, and be flexible.
- 16:43So share your preferences with them, but make sure that you, I guess, even preempt caveats that things might change, your decisions might change, and hopefully they're someone that can support that flexibility and not hold you to a decision you made when you were not in pain and then give them things to do, like what to provide for you food-wise, how much water you want, how much rest they need, how much rest do you need.
- 17:04And you know, if they're tired, which is the benefit of having two, one can sleep while the other one's on, and vice versa.
- 17:12Um, and those are ways to prepare your birth partners And I guess for yourself, know what you want.
- 17:16Are you, do you wanna be touched?
- 17:18Would you prefer motivational speech?
- 17:19Would you prefer distraction with some Netflix?
- 17:21Whatever you think would make you feel most comfortable, convey that to them, so again, beforehand, so they can show up for you in the way that you need them to If you're preparing for birth, send this video to someone that you want to support you during your labor.
- 17:34And if you've had the baby, congratulations, and take my postnatal recovery check-in questionnaire down below to understand where you are on your journey and what you can focus on over the next 7 to 30 days to make your recovery much better.
- 17:46Because what we want to do is thrive through pregnancy and postpartum and not just survive.
- 17:51Why don't you watch a video on natural ways I try to induce labor if you are still pregnant and trying to get into labor?
- 17:58But until next time