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The Zip Gun Problem And Other Ways To Ruin A Motorcade · Critique-Opolis

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SPEAKER_00: There we go.
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SPEAKER_00: Rolling and rolling.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I am surprised that you said yes to another Clint Eastwood movie.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, no, I'm not.
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SPEAKER_00: You liked A Perfect World.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Did you?
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SPEAKER_02: I did.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: That was a really good movie.
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SPEAKER_00: So I took it back to a movie that Clint filmed.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, as he was finishing this one, we're about to chit-chat about.
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SPEAKER_00: He moved right into.
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SPEAKER_00: There was a few weeks of crossover between the close of this movie and A Perfect World.
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SPEAKER_00: We are talking, of course, about the 1993 In the Line of Fire, in which he's he starred with Malkovich, everybody's favorite villain.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if well he doesn't always play a villain, but he plays a good villain when he does one.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: This is the problem we're having.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm figuring out that whenever we use Notebook or when I use Square to run transactions for the Honey business, it's no the apps are no longer local on our phone.
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SPEAKER_00: They are they're in the cloud, so they take a minute to load.
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SPEAKER_00: So bear with us for a second as we're chit-chan about this.
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SPEAKER_02: How did I I kind of help up?
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SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm good.
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SPEAKER_00: I I kind of usurped your pick.
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SPEAKER_00: This was your pick, and I I tripped across this on my feed on YouTube, and I'm like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: I think you'd enjoy this.
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SPEAKER_00: Even though that I don't know if I call it a little bit rough, but anything involving the military, the government, might be a little bit it it sometimes it strains to hold your attention, but I don't think that was the case with this one.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_00: So to if you haven't seen it, it was released back in '93.
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SPEAKER_00: Critically acclaimed political action thriller directed by Wolfgang Peterson, who never disappoints, and this was no exception.
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SPEAKER_00: Follows veteran Secret Service agent haunted by his past to protect John F.
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SPEAKER_00: Kennedy.
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SPEAKER_00: That's Clint Eastwood, who stars as Frank Horrigan.
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SPEAKER_00: And John Malkovich as a brilliant but unstable former CIA operative known as Mitch Leary, also known as Booth, playing on the on the naming structure for the man who killed Lincoln.
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SPEAKER_00: Film Chronicles, a tense cat a tense cat and mouse game involving presidential assassination threats.
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SPEAKER_00: Renee Russo plays Lily Rains.
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SPEAKER_00: Narrative explores this movie actually Malkovich won an Oscar for this.
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SPEAKER_00: He was nominated and he won.
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SPEAKER_00: Part of what puts this movie together is the psychological themes and personal redemption arc for Eastwood.
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SPEAKER_00: They used what did they say when they were building this that this movie used the first digital haircut where they digitally inserted a young Eastwood in old fould presidential movies.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I did read that, but is that what it was called?
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't get that detail.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, digital haircut.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the first time.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't think his movies are really prone for using a lot of digital effects, but at the time when they used there was a couple of photos where they showed a young Eastwood along the motorcade in the background of Kennedy's motorcade at the time of the assassination and before another presidential uh protection duties.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: He was in the background, and you could tell it's him, it's just like you know, from 40 years or 40 or 50 years prior.
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SPEAKER_00: Kind of unusual for his movies.
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SPEAKER_00: I think actually it was just a technology that was starting to get use in '93.
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SPEAKER_00: I was, this was my last year of high school when this came out.
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SPEAKER_00: I remember seeing it in college at Miller Auditorium in Kalamazoo.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's see, earning widespread praise for its intelligent screenplay, expert direction, and stellar performance, particularly at Malkovich's Oscar-nominated portrayal of the villain, at the time did$187 million, which was which was an absolute killer.
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SPEAKER_00: They didn't expect from like from such an adult-themed uh screenplay.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I th I I think on your the slide deck that you put together, it compared some of the other movies that came out right around the same time that were blockbusters that did well for totally different reasons.
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SPEAKER_00: That being Cliffhanger with Stallone.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: And that relied on death-defying, you know, athleticism and um height.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that you?
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SPEAKER_00: That's not you.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh images of being on top of a mountain and uh jumping off mountains and and stunts.
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SPEAKER_00: I think the other one was Jurassic Park, which was heavily uh digital special effects heavy.
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SPEAKER_00: So let's see.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I see what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_02: Cliffhanger.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's towards the bottom of it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't look all the way through it with the slide deck.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So what do we get in terms of we did a what do you when you you put together this?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, also I meant to mention, sorry, just a minute ago.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, this movie was only made for 40 million dollars.
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SPEAKER_02: So for it to make 187, yeah, I heard the that's as far as budgets go.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you remember this.
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SPEAKER_00: There was a bit in Entourage where Vince is sitting down across from Vincent's and year sitting down across from I can't remember the actor's name, but the guy who plays head of one of the studios with Dana.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: And he was they give him a bonus, and he starts talking about them making the next movie he wants to make.
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SPEAKER_00: And Vince makes a crack about how Eastwood always asks you guys for like a hundred million dollars, but he knows he's gonna make the movie for 40, and he just pockets the difference.
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SPEAKER_02: I do remember that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I I don't know how much of that was just wrote up as a gag.
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SPEAKER_00: Right, or is really that's really like that's kind of the intelligent way of like if you write it into the if they get a check that goes to the production company, like Malpaso is was Eastwoods, I mean it's his company.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Give him a check for a hundred million bucks or eighty million or whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but he can do the thing for 30, whatever's left, he doesn't have to give it back, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Which is a pretty I would I guess ingenious way.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like when you make a product, you make it for you know, a lower cost, but you have a margin in it, and he just did it.
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SPEAKER_00: He just he, if this is in fact a true story, Eastwood is just doing that same formula but in reverse.
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SPEAKER_00: Before the movie even comes out, I've already made millions on it.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I tell him it's gonna cost X, but I can really do it for Y.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you want to go through the characters?
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: All right, Frank Horgan, Clint Eastwood, is plagued by trauma and guilt and hopes for redemption.
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SPEAKER_00: He's the sole remaining active duty Secret Service agent who was present on President John F.
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SPEAKER_00: Kennedy's protection detail in Dallas in 63.
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SPEAKER_00: He's deeply tormented by guilt and self-doubt over failing to prevent JFK's assassination, questioning whether indecision or hesitation prevented him from taking a bullet.
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SPEAKER_00: And the interesting part about this is they allude to it and they make cracks at his when they're when they're having that meeting about trying to figure out who Booth is, they're talking about his reputation, and he gets, you know, there's cracks like that throughout the movie, and it's just towards the end before he actually meets he encounters Malkovich that he's he actually opens up about that day when Kennedy is shot.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And you see this sensitive, you know, he gets tearful and and uh he acknowledges the emotion that he's been dealing with.
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SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: And for a very long time.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what?
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SPEAKER_00: Looking back on that now is like I didn't really appre like I knew it was a powerful moment, but when you see it now, it's almost like he's letting his guard down, like this has affected me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And I have to, I have to I have to address this by dealing with this new threat, which is the same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: And when he was talking about how when Kennedy was shot, he feel like he didn't react.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's what always that really upset him.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: But the fr in the in our in the lifetime of the Secret Service, that's not something that I know they trained for it, but the fact that it actually happened, if he was in fact like a real person guarding Kennedy, yeah, he said in that moment, like, I don't know why I didn't react.
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SPEAKER_00: It just I couldn't believe it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And it it was in that line when I heard that that I'm thinking, you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: For all the training you can go through, yeah, you can have muscle memory, but like the act of actually the a president is murdered in front of you, it's it's perfectly natural, even though you've been trained for this kind of thing, to be like, I can't like in that situation.
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SPEAKER_00: If he was right next to him, he would have seen his head get blown apart.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And then be like, I I I don't believe that that that's not real.
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SPEAKER_02: That's it's so right now.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure it was just a split second, but it's tormented him all this time.
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SPEAKER_00: And let's see, what else do we have here?
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SPEAKER_00: Vulnerability and action archetype, where the plot shares similarities with Eastwood's classic Dirty Harry law enforcement rules.
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SPEAKER_00: Dirty Harry always carried a 357 Magnum, and that's what Horgan carries in this, which I think, as far as a standard issue weapon for those guys, is in the 80s and 90s.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that's pretty unusual.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Because it's a it's a large caliber pistol, it's very big.
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SPEAKER_02: And so where would you put that?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's like you could, but because he's a big guy, but it's I don't think it's something that's really standard issue.
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SPEAKER_00: Critics and analysts note that Horgan represents a far more vulnerable, humanized character.
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SPEAKER_00: He plays jazz piano, sheds tears, drinks highballs, and openly grapples with his past drama.
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SPEAKER_00: With his excuse me, with his past trauma.
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SPEAKER_00: And he has a search for redemption.
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SPEAKER_00: He seeks personal redemption by testing his ultimate professional obligation and his willingness to take a bullet for the commander-in-chief.
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SPEAKER_00: Like he says to his boss that he wants to be put on protection, and his boss is like, You're a dinosaur, you're like 60, and he wants to get out like running alongside the car.
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SPEAKER_00: And you can tell, like, even if he had to be, even though he was acting, that's a lot of work for an older guy to do.
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SPEAKER_00: Was he 60 in that, or was he like he must be because he's 90 now, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yikes, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Somewhere um high high eighties.
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SPEAKER_02: What do you call that?
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SPEAKER_02: Late 80s.
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SPEAKER_02: Late 80s.
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SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I think we looked it up.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so 93 that's oh three, thirteen, twenty.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it'd be like thirty, thirty-three years ago.
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SPEAKER_00: If he was the same age as as he really is.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's say he was actually look it up on uh see how old he is.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm hoping he's older than me.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, if you think about it or you watch carefully when you do see that vehicle on TV.
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SPEAKER_02: Um excuse me.
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SPEAKER_02: People are always running, young people, younger young agents.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: Are always running beside it.
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SPEAKER_02: And no wonder they can um they keep up.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like when you see this, he is still, even though this came out in the early nineties, he was aged at that point.
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SPEAKER_00: Still.
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SPEAKER_02: 196.
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SPEAKER_02: He's 96 years old.
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SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
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SPEAKER_02: 96.
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SPEAKER_02: So that would he would have been 63?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Wait, he's 96?
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SPEAKER_02: 96.
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SPEAKER_00: So he would have been 63.
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SPEAKER_00: So 73, 83, 93 in three years.
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SPEAKER_00: He would have been in his 60s, he would have been on the verge of retirement.
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SPEAKER_00: There is no way they would have had a guy that old running alongside the motorcade.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: Even then he was wow.
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SPEAKER_02: That really is.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So on to my favorite character, Mitch Leary, or Booth, played by Malkovich.
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SPEAKER_00: As we watch this, this guy, he scared you.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't like Malkovich as an actor.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, is it you think just because he does he creep you out, or what is it?
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SPEAKER_02: In a major way.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly why I like this character.
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SPEAKER_00: He's a former CA operative, assassin, or wet boy, someone who engages in wet work, that being where someone is killed and blood is shed, who suffered a mental breakdown, was discarded by the government he once served, adopting the alias Booth after John Wilkes Booth.
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SPEAKER_00: His motive is not monetary game, but revenge and desire to force recognition from the system that betrayed him.
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SPEAKER_00: He engages in a psychological cat-and-mouse dynamic.
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SPEAKER_00: He establishes an intimate, twisted relationship with Horgan, where a series of through a series of phone calls, and he while he's doing this, he is, because of his time in the intelligence community, he built a an apparatus or a machine that scrambled phone signals.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, that's right.
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SPEAKER_00: So it was very difficult for, or it took more time than usual for Secret Service to trace the phone calls.
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SPEAKER_00: And he would make these calls and keep them on just long enough, and this was in your slide deck.
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SPEAKER_00: He'd keep them on long enough they they could get a general idea where he was, but he would cut it off so they can close in and he could show them that he can escape.
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SPEAKER_02: Every time.
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SPEAKER_02: So frustrating.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, by his former employer, by Frank's current employer.
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SPEAKER_00: And what was interesting about that was all of the most interesting part of this movie was their conversations on the phone.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: He would call and it was he was very relaxed.
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SPEAKER_00: Very up until I think what was the the time when he when they almost caught him when he when they um yelled at Frank because Frank just kind of got fed up with him.
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SPEAKER_00: He was like, you know, let's talk about you, let's talk about how you murdered your friend.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh the CIA had sent his previous partner um under the guise of having a conversation with him to accept real real tra uh retraining.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: But really they were just gonna rub him out.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And the CIA rep who tells Horrigan that is lying about it.
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SPEAKER_00: And when Horgan presses Leary with this information, Leary just melts down.
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SPEAKER_01: He's like, you that guy's a right motherfucker.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And he he just comes unglued.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's interesting to see how someone who has a methodical approach to an objective he wants to accomplish breaks down when you present him with the lies that he is upset about, but you present them as fact.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I know you tried to kill your friend.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't try my friend tried to kill me.
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SPEAKER_00: I had to defend myself.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And they're lying to you just the way they lied to me.
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SPEAKER_00: So you know what's what's really interesting about this is when you start to deconstruct these characters, you're like, yeah, I get it.
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SPEAKER_00: I understand why he wants to murder the president.
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SPEAKER_00: It totally makes sense.
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SPEAKER_00: Because peop anybody who's done I am assuming anyone who has to murder for the government has done does pretty awful things on a regular basis, and there's no there's no way to really you can't be whole or healthy from that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So it it makes sense that that Leary turned out the way he did.
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SPEAKER_00: Lily Rains played by Renee Russo.
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SPEAKER_00: Professional competence and evolving dynamic.
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SPEAKER_00: There is a uh affection and a relationship that develops between her and Horgan.
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SPEAKER_00: She originally enters the story as a colleague, and it founders on Horrigan's outdated chauvinistic remarks regarding women in the Secret Service.
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SPEAKER_00: However, as they continue to work together, there's mutual professional respect that develops and a general romantic attraction.
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SPEAKER_00: What else do I want to say?
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SPEAKER_00: Some of the some of this stuff is okay, like narrative function.
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SPEAKER_00: Through some commentary notes that her role fits standard Hollywood tropes and the female sidekickslash love interest.
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SPEAKER_00: Critics emphasize that Russo brings sharp comedic timing, professional weight, and strong screw uh screen chemistry.
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SPEAKER_00: That was the neat thing about her character, is like she just didn't take any shit.
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SPEAKER_00: She she didn't get angry at uh Eastwood's quips regarding women's role in the service, but she responded in kind with the same type of biting um satirical responses.
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SPEAKER_00: Like she didn't she didn't take the stuff personally personally, she just kinda she gave as good as she got.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: If you know what I mean.
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SPEAKER_02: She did, I saw that several times.
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SPEAKER_00: Al DeAndrea was Dylan McDermott.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't want to talk about his fate, but he's a rookie but who's the guy who I always confuse him with?
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SPEAKER_00: Dermot Mulrooney?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it isn't there another one?
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SPEAKER_00: Um Dylan McDermott, Dermot Mulrooney, and Yes, there is.
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SPEAKER_00: Um It's gonna come to you as we're talking.
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SPEAKER_00: Rookie partner represents immediate personal risk to protection work.
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SPEAKER_00: This was neat.
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SPEAKER_00: The the guy who plays Jigsaw in the Saw movies uh makes a cameo in this.
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SPEAKER_00: In the very beginning, he plays a counterfeiter, and that scene is just that scene's just great.
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SPEAKER_00: How he feels that Horrigan is his colleague, but his partner is undercover, and he like he takes the partner below to quote unquote help the other guys with something, and they tie him up and gag him.
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SPEAKER_00: And Horgan comes down with the guy from the saw guy.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: And he very coolly says, This guy is a fed.
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SPEAKER_00: Just I want you to kill him so I know that we're on the same team.
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SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_00: And Frank figures figures out a way to convince him without hurting Al.
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SPEAKER_00: And in short, turns the tables, but turns the tables is just such an intelligent way.
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SPEAKER_00: It like he's well measured through the whole crisis scene.
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SPEAKER_00: And you can tell that throughout the movie, Al is like is he shaken up by everything.
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SPEAKER_00: He's a good guy, but the high pressure things that happen in this movie to him.
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SPEAKER_02: They're a lot for him.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a lot for him, and it happens in rapid succession.
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SPEAKER_00: Which I don't think like I don't want to say the I don't know what a Secret Service person's with the frequency that they're put in mortal danger.
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SPEAKER_00: I know it's a it's a um what kind of job do you call that?
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SPEAKER_00: Like a high-risk, um you know, they gotta carry a gun type of job.
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SPEAKER_00: But I don't know, it's not I don't know if it's like being a Navy SEAL where every time you go out you're getting shot at.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's like that, but in this narrative, he's put in mortal danger and it clearly affects him.
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SPEAKER_00: Who else do we have?
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SPEAKER_02: Well it sounds like he uh not sounds like he does have a family, like he's married, he has a kid.
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SPEAKER_02: And I don't think that Cle Clint Eastwood's character has that.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he doesn't have that.
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SPEAKER_02: Even though it affects their jobs affect them all differently and heavily, I think that if you have a kid and you're married, it's definitely and like you said, I think he's like new to the um the force.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you, yeah, thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not what he thought when he signed up.
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SPEAKER_00: Wait, I don't think the the frequency that That is something that the Secret Service does is they do they do act as a police force for anyone in counterfeiting.
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SPEAKER_00: Anything that has to do with uh um currency replication, that's Secret Service all the way.
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SPEAKER_00: And I shouldn't say I d I really don't know how often that large-scale counterfeiters are murderous bastards, but I don't know if it's like I don't know if they have the same rep that Colombian drug cartels do.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Because they're pretty bloodthirsty or willing to uh to murder at the drop of I don't know what the um what the MO is of your standard counterfeiter, but I don't think that you're led to believe that Al didn't think it was going to be that kind of a risk.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, and Fred Dalton Thompson as Harry Sergeant at the White House Chief of Staff, and he butts heads with Horgan because Horgan's concerned mostly about protecting the president, and Sargent is concerned with keeping his schedule keeping the president's schedule in line so they can get their polling numbers up.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And I had mentioned to you that Fred Dalton Thompson was a sitting senator.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: Did you where did you I didn't look up, I didn't get that information, but I can look.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Part of me wants to say, I'm gonna I'll tell you what, while you look it up, yeah.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna guess it's Colorado or Minnesota.
26:10
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Damn it, I got the hiccups.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: And what else can I fill in on here?
26:22
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like I don't know there was a lot to learn from this movie.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: It was more Hollywood popcorn.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: It was it was just a good thriller.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: It was a good thriller.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: And it's also about the presidency and the behind the scenes of that, and I don't know, there's something about that that's fascinating.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: The Secret Service thought this was gonna be their Top Gun.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was really gonna push up recruitment, recruitment numbers, and it may have, but not to the degree that Top Gun performed for the Navy.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: But as far as ratings go, it scored huge on Rotten Tomatoes.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, huge, yeah.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: 96, I think.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that which is really, really high.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: And you wouldn't think that I didn't even know that.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: That that's a tremendous, a tremendous score.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: I like your bre the breakdown it gave of Leary and of uh Horrigan.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: This was the interesting thing is that it classified Horrigan as somebody who was who just operated on old tactics and brute force to get the job done.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: And Leary is more of a tactician, and he has knowledge of how to utilize technology for certain for his for a specific task.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: Like his I don't think this isn't really giving anything away, this 30-some odd-year-old movie.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: But the way he wants to assassinate the president is by he can't bring a firearm into where it's where he's going to have intimate contact with the president because he's gonna go through metal detectors.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: Right.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: So he builds a zip gun for and if you don't like zip guns, sometimes they're used in the prison system, like um prisoners will make them in wood or metal shop, and it typically consists of just a tube with a firing pin and a uh makeshift button as a trigger to release that firing pin, and they'll put a round that fits like a bullet in the in the tube, and when the firing pin hits it, the thing goes like there's a ton of recoil, but you have to use it in close proximity to who you're shooting.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: But Leary's gonna make this, but he does it with like a poxy, like a composite, like plastic, and he builds his own pistol.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: And he can take it with him anywhere.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he he can take it apart, and since it's composite, it won't register when he goes through the metal detector.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: He sneaks in the bullets in a hollow casing inside of a rabbit's foot onto on a keychain.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: And the other thing about his character is he's because he's worked for the CIA, he's they have no idea what he's look they he looks like.
29:28
SPEAKER_00: And during one of his phone calls, when the CIA or when the Secret Service figures out that he's right across the street and he's in disguise and they're looking around for him.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: Frank sees him, he figures out who he is, and then he takes off running.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: And during the chase, he gets hit by a car.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: Um a bus.
29:50
unknown: I think.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: No, he runs behind a bus afterwards.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: And then he gets away.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: And I don't mean Clinton Eastwood.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: Mitch Leary gets hit by a car, but when he gets hit, he goes up under the hood, puts his hand down, and hits the windshield and rolls off.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: And Horgan's like, We we got we got fingerprints.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right, right.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: Because he put his hand down.
30:09
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: And when they run it through the yeah.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: You go ahead.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: No, I just go ahead.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: When they when they're running his prints, this is the part I didn't get.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I know what you're gonna say, because that's what I I this didn't make any sense to me at all because it comes up as C12 classified.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if that's it being classified, it's C12 might be just some movie made up shit, but that it it's a classified print.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: It belongs to somebody we can't talk about.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: Right.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: The guy in charge of the department that runs prints tells Horgan we have nothing.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: Which is weird.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, why wouldn't you say this is a classified person?
30:54
SPEAKER_01: Right.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: So whoever you gotta talk to further up the chin, let them know that this is somebody who's of who's like, we can't tell him.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean, either.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't understand why you can't tell him.
31:06
SPEAKER_02: It's somebody yeah.
31:07
SPEAKER_00: It's somebody who clearly has governmental access.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: A lot of it.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's yeah, it's someone within his yeah.
31:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't understand.
31:18
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I get it.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: So which is weird because uh if there is an intimate threat to the president, but it's from somebody who has I think I had mentioned this to you, like within the CIA, there is um there's like SEAL team, there's the SEALs, they're not part of uh the CIA, but the CIA has its own, I don't know what they're called.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: They're they're a group and they don't have a name, but they are assassins, they are tactical people within the CIA, and they have their own designation.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that is.
31:55
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: But you would think that if there is an intimate intimate threat to the president of the United States and the person who is organizing it is within the government and they have security clearance, that the FBI or the um Secret Service would be told at the very least, I can't tell you who it is, but yeah, there's it's a classified print.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: I can tell you that.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: And they didn't, they're just like we're drawing a blank.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: Like I'm like, that's not all the information.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: No, that's not.
32:34
SPEAKER_02: And then of course, since um Horrigan, thank you, since Horgan hears that, he just like, okay, moving on.
32:41
SPEAKER_02: But that's not helpful.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: Well, I think I think they kind of did that as a way to delay that they had to okay.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: I yeah, I think that's why they did to delay the storage so they could later Yeah, do more, figure out how did they find out um oh it was from when they're snooping around, they've are you gonna make it?
33:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Do we have to give do we have to get you on coffee or what?
33:09
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm okay.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: When they're figuring out he is doing something with models and composites, they visit that guy at the design center.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: And the other guy who was the model builder in the wheelchair, and I and they he gave him his name and they search him and they find out where his old house is, and that's where he bumps where Horgan and Al bump into the CIA.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: And later, Horgan, when they're meeting with them in uh Secret Service headquarters, he's like, you knew this fucking guy was doing this.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: And this is why, like, this is why the print didn't come up.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: And like you guys were aware that he was up to something.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: And that's what's funny is they trained this guy to be a killer.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: They're like, we didn't think he was serious.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: You trained him to kill people, you didn't think he was serious about killing the president?
34:10
SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: And it's only interesting because it's a movie.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: But I don't think in real life that it wouldn't have been treated like that, but that's a good point.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, the actor is a senator from Tennessee.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: Tennessee.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: So I was totally wrong.
34:35
SPEAKER_00: But how long does it say how long he served?
34:40
SPEAKER_02: He was um from two from ninety-four to January 2003.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: He was also in uh the hunt for Red October.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: He was, yeah.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: He was the uh he was the uh captain of the aircraft carrier that Jack Ryan flew off of.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: He was well that's that is in the line of fire.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: It was a good movie.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: Fun to watch.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: You will, yep.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: 96 96% of around tomatoes is totally worth it.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: And I don't think they're overstating it because I've seen this movie a number of times, and it's it's good every time.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: It's great.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: Like the scene where they think they're gonna catch him and they're running across the rooftops.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh there's a there's a spot where Leary jumps from one building to another, and it's a long jump, and he makes it.
35:52
SPEAKER_00: And Horgan jumps, he's an older guy, and he he makes it, but he just barely, and he's starting to slip off.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: And Leary pops up from he's hanging off the edge, and from over the edge, Leary's head comes over, and you're like, oh shit, this is it.
36:09
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna murder Oregon.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: And instead he helps him and they they look at each other face to face.
36:15
SPEAKER_00: Horgan pulls a gun on him, and uh Leary is just steely about the whole interaction.
36:23
SPEAKER_00: He's like, You're gonna kill me, Frank?
36:25
SPEAKER_00: I'm saving your life.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: And he says it very calm and collected.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
36:29
SPEAKER_00: And he can't do anything, and then there's this, there's something that happens right afterwards.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna spoil it for you.
36:36
SPEAKER_00: I felt that I spoiled one or two movies on this podcast.
36:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna do it again.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: But that that scene, just the chase scene, like every time I see it, it has me on the edge of my seat, even though I know what's gonna happen.
36:54
SPEAKER_00: Alright, what do you want now?
36:55
SPEAKER_00: You want my on your screen.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: You want it?
36:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: It's pretty good.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: But it's, I'll tell you right now, this is for someone who has the time and or like the resilience to make something involved because I know we won't do this.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: This is Oh man, I keep losing it when I.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, there we go.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: Crispy chili, honey, halloumi bites.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yum.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: Do you like halloumi?
37:48
SPEAKER_02: No, but I've heard you can do this with it, and it's delicious.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean, a similar thing, not as fancy as what you just said, but yeah.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: So it's really easy.
37:57
SPEAKER_00: So four net carbs.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: Now, as always, Critique Opolis is brought to you by Hey Honey.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Visit me at Hey Honey.biz.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: Shameless self-promotion there.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: I can't help it.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: You could do these with any of Hey Honey's honey.
38:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, specifically the regular clover and wildflower or the spicy.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: So golden-fried haloumi cubes coated in spicy sweet honey, chili glaze, perfect balance of crispy exterior and squeaky, squeaky cheese interior.
38:35
SPEAKER_00: So, let's see, four net carbs per serving, 320 calories, 24 grams of fat, 22 grams of protein, four net carbs, and 0.5 grams of fiber.
38:49
SPEAKER_00: Prep time 10 minutes.
38:52
SPEAKER_00: Cook 15.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: Total time 25.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: 250 grams halloumi.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: What is halloumi?
39:01
SPEAKER_02: Kind of cheese.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh, is that what it is?
39:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's the yeah, yeah.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: The cheese that we have with um help me out.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: We've had it before.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: I think we have, but I don't know what for.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: It's cheese.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: Cubed.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: Two tablespoons coconut flour, two teaspoons of garlic powder, half a teaspoon of black pepper, two eggs beaten, 60 grams of ground pork rinds.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, your favorite.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: She hates them, just in case you were wondering.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: Honey chili sauce consists of three tablespoons sugar-free.
39:43
SPEAKER_00: No, not no, you're not doing that.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: You're doing three tablespoons of hot honey from Hey Honey.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: Two red chilies finely chopped, although you may not need that if you use my hot honey.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: Three garlic cloves minced, one tablespoon rice wine vinegar, two tablespoons soy sauce, one teaspoon sesame oil, and a half uh teaspoon of xanthem gum.
40:11
SPEAKER_00: For frying, you're gonna want some avocado oil and salt to taste.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: They say 240 milliliters of avocado oil, but whatever that comes out to, and I don't know what 240 milliliters is.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: You have to have enough to fry cheese in, so it's gonna be you're gonna have a little bit of a lake.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: Your garnish is sliced spring onion, sesame seeds, chili flakes, and fresh coriander.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: So instructions, again, guys, I'm sorry this is a little bit involved, but it's there's a few steps here, just bear with me.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna cut halloomy into two centimeter cubes, like inch by inch cubes.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh pat them dry, prepare the coating station separately.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna mix the ingredients.
41:03
SPEAKER_00: To coat the halumi, you're gonna dip dip them, uh dip it in beaten egg, coat it in a pork rind mixture, set aside on a rack, let it sit for about five minutes, and then frying, you're gonna heat the oil to 175, fry until it's golden brown, work them in small batches because otherwise it's gonna boil over, and then drain on a paper towel.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: For the sauce, uh, you're gonna heat a small pan, you're gonna combine the sauce ingredients, simmer until it thickens, and then just keep it warm.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: Super easy.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Final assembly, toss Halloumi and sauce, coat it evenly, transfer it to a dish and garnish, and then it's got steps to serve it.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: You can figure out how to serve it.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: You're smart at home.
41:54
SPEAKER_00: And then pro tips, don't overcrowd watch sauce carefully.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, these are all given.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just make sure you dry the haloy thoroughly because when you put it in hot oil, it's gonna it's gonna pop and make a giant mess.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: That is an I think that's kind of an understated tip.
42:14
SPEAKER_00: Make sure you dry it thoroughly.
42:15
SPEAKER_00: And then storage, eat it immediately if you can.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, you can store it for about 24 hours, reheat it in the oven, not in the microwave, and keep your sauce separate.
42:29
SPEAKER_00: That is my recipe of the week.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: Those look good.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: I would totally eat those.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: I would I we can't make that though.
42:36
SPEAKER_00: I'd I'd absolutely overdo it.
42:39
SPEAKER_00: Can't gain 10 pounds in a weekend.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Alright, this next one, you have gotta pick the next one.
42:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
42:48
SPEAKER_00: Did you have anything on the we've been this this afternoon we went out to lunch with friends and we were recommended this Nathan Fielder movie about Elizabeth Holmes.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh, our friend, I everyone we've seen online who's seen it just raves about what is it, you can see everything?
43:11
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: And our friend was no exception.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: She was like It's like she joined a cult about how to feel about this movie.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: Apparently, once you you step out of it, you don't trust anything anymore.
43:28
SPEAKER_00: It's either that or Digger that we gotta see this week.
43:32
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: But I mean you gotta you gotta pick something of yourself.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't want you to put it on I'm not putting you on the spot here, but you gotta pick something that just you like you want us to see, aside from those movies.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: What else haven't we covered?
43:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm still not fully fully convinced about Digger.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: You're not?
43:51
SPEAKER_02: No.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: I might go I might go solo to that thing.
43:55
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't y you know what?
43:59
SPEAKER_00: I think there's political tones in that movie that you just wouldn't care for.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: Because you you don't like that kind of stuff anyway.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: What else haven't we covered?
44:16
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
44:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
44:18
SPEAKER_02: I think we covered what we needed or wanted to cover.
44:23
SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you what movie is coming next, but I don't know.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: And uh she's gotta do some AI workups here, and I gotta take a nap.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: We love you.
44:35
SPEAKER_00: We'll be back at you soon with something else.
44:39
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44:40
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44:41
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