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Set 2: Avoiding Where They Hate You (w/Bomani Jones) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Bomani Jones is with us now the right time with
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  Speaker 1: Bomani Jones wherever you get your podcast. I have told
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  Speaker 1: you went to the Sphere to check out Wizard of Oz?
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  Speaker 2: How was it?
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  Speaker 1: How was Wizard of Oz? And how was your first
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  Speaker 1: experience at the Sphere?
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  Speaker 3: I mean there were worse ways to spend an hour
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  Speaker 3: on a Saturday afternoon. There were not more expensive ways
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  Speaker 3: to spend an hour on a Saturday afternoon. Like you're
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  Speaker 3: not you're not quite intimately aware of how short the
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  Speaker 3: Wizard of Oz is until you pay one hundred something
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  Speaker 3: dollars to go watch you like that? That really really
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  Speaker 3: puts you in touch.
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  Speaker 4: Like an hour long?
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  Speaker 2: Is that it?
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  Speaker 5: It's like an hour of ten maybe yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like like anything about The Wizard of there's really
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  Speaker 3: not that much plot development.
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  Speaker 5: It really is an album. It's really just going from
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  Speaker 5: song to saw.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But you wanted to feel like you got your
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  Speaker 1: money's worth, and so an hour and ten was not
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  Speaker 1: long enough for you wanted them to stretch that thing
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  Speaker 1: out to like two and a half three hours.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think I was.
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  Speaker 5: I think I was about ready to go, Like I
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  Speaker 5: wasn't trying.
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  Speaker 3: To like stretch it out minute for minute in that way.
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  Speaker 3: But you gotta be careful about not getting a seat
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  Speaker 3: that's too close, because if your seat is like too close,
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  Speaker 3: you can be on a upper level, but if you're
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  Speaker 3: too too many rolls down you can like see the
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  Speaker 3: source of the effects, like you see the source of
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  Speaker 3: the pyrotechnics.
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  Speaker 5: You see the source of.
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  Speaker 3: The wind, and when you see the machines do it,
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  Speaker 3: it kind of takes away from the like totality of
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  Speaker 3: the situation.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The first time I went there, I was sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the two hundred level. They said those are the best
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  Speaker 1: seats of the house, and I found myself very scared.
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  Speaker 1: I'm afraid of heights. Perhaps I was taking something and
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  Speaker 1: I closed my eyes. I was terrified, and so I
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  Speaker 1: called the person who got me the tickets. I said, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I need to put my feet on the ground, and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, your feet are on the ground, and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: round level, that a round crown. And so I sat
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  Speaker 1: on the floor and it was much better. I just
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  Speaker 1: turned it into a concert experience because I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about the visuals, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I'll give this to Dolan.
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  Speaker 3: Dolan done figured out or whoever did this with Dolan,
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  Speaker 3: however you want to put it. But the Sphere has
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  Speaker 3: become a thing that people just want to give a go.
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  Speaker 5: You just want to give it a try. I'm trying
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  Speaker 5: to think.
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  Speaker 3: And it's in Vegas, so you know, despite Vegas being down,
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  Speaker 3: people will still a bunch of people go to Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: But whoever's idea was to be like, Okay, we can't
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  Speaker 3: have a concert every night, but we can show the
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  Speaker 3: Wizard of Oz every day, Like, yo, why don't we
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  Speaker 3: do that? I guarantee you they are making money hand
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  Speaker 3: over fist. They're over showing us an eighty year old movie.
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  Speaker 2: They got you, we can do it better. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The only time I ever had, let's just call it
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  Speaker 4: a bad experience on a recreational drug, was a place
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  Speaker 4: with really low ceiling. And so I'm just if I
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  Speaker 4: ever go to the Sphere and try, I feel like
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  Speaker 4: it's just gonna bring back those terrible memories. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to go sooner, You're gonna have to go.
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  Speaker 3: So no, you can't go, So no, I mean, just
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  Speaker 3: just don't just stay in the right place on the
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  Speaker 3: hierarchy of things to take, you know, what I mean, Well.
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  Speaker 2: Good point.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how I transition away from the Sphere
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  Speaker 1: and the Wizard of Oz to Lebron James and Philly,
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  Speaker 1: but I guess that's how I do it, from LSD
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  Speaker 1: to LBJ. Yes, were you surprised that Lebron? Were you
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  Speaker 1: surprised Lebron James? I was not, Bamani. I said it
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  Speaker 1: the second that Lebron James said money wasn't an issue,
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  Speaker 1: and it clearly was it. I told the guys here
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  Speaker 1: he's going to Philadelphia. Were you surprised by his decision?
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  Speaker 5: Yo?
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  Speaker 3: I did not know where he was going to go.
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  Speaker 3: Like of all the times, this is the one where
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  Speaker 3: it felt like nobody really knew.
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  Speaker 5: And the closest thing.
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  Speaker 3: That you had to it was the YouTube thing with
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  Speaker 3: the heat right. But I didn't feel like anybody had
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  Speaker 3: a great idea because I didn't think on one hand,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think there are any great fits, but also
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  Speaker 3: didn't think there are any bad fits. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: think any of us believed that we're at the portion
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  Speaker 3: of Lebron's career where adding him means that you're going
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  Speaker 3: to win a championship.
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  Speaker 5: So I just kind of leaned in on the hook.
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  Speaker 5: Anything can happen. Let's see how it goes.
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  Speaker 3: And he wound up in a place that makes its
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  Speaker 3: own measure of sense.
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  Speaker 5: That he's there.
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  Speaker 3: It's they got a lot to try to figure out,
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  Speaker 3: Like this is a job for a great coach, and
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  Speaker 3: I think Nick Nurse is merely.
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  Speaker 5: A good one.
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  Speaker 3: But nah, I mean I think this could go about
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  Speaker 3: eighty five.
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  Speaker 2: Different ways, right, Yes, Yes.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's all I got.
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  Speaker 3: Is there's anybody who says they know how this is
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  Speaker 3: gonna go is a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Well, But one of the quickest ways somebody can sort
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  Speaker 4: of get out of favor with a fan base or
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  Speaker 4: with an entire team is if they feel like he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't really belong there. Right, So the idea of him
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  Speaker 4: like helicoptering in and out of Philadelphia, if he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: live in New York the second things go wrong, that's
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  Speaker 4: just an obvious place where they can just turn on
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  Speaker 4: him say you don't even want to be one of us.
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  Speaker 2: Yo.
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  Speaker 3: It's so interesting because I made that point on my
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  Speaker 3: show and we put out some short content about it,
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  Speaker 3: and a radio host in Philadelphia accuse me of not
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  Speaker 3: prepping and not doing any research because apparently I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I was supposed to call him to find out if
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  Speaker 3: anybody was like calling the phones in Philadelphia and complaining
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  Speaker 3: about this, And I even said and the irony of
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  Speaker 3: it was that like he didn't even check my actual podcast,
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  Speaker 3: and he would have maybe heard more contexts, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in the name of research. But my point was, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying this is a giant, big deal, but I
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  Speaker 3: would understand if somebody was a little miffed by the
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  Speaker 3: idea that you ain't even been here and you're just like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: I ain't even trying to do this right like that,
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  Speaker 3: that's I could see somebody finding that to be weird.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I had to also double back on that though, and
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  Speaker 3: say to myself that even if you stayed in Philadelphia
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  Speaker 3: will probably be New Jersey. But even still, the idea
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  Speaker 3: of I'll just come in from New York that does
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  Speaker 3: not sell the impression that you're really invested in what
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  Speaker 3: it is that we're doing down here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they get they get off to a ten
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  Speaker 1: and oh start and no one's get a caribou.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, oh no, I think they'll care if they
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  Speaker 3: get off to like, well, I don't know, it'll be
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  Speaker 3: going on during Eagle season.
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  Speaker 5: Like I think though that if they are.
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  Speaker 3: Near the top of the East, I think it will
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  Speaker 3: be a thing, because if they are doing it, it
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  Speaker 3: will be they're doing it with a handful of really,
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  Speaker 3: really good players and presumably should be somewhat entertaining to watch.
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  Speaker 3: There's also a great potential for this team that finished
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  Speaker 3: as a seventh seed last year right to and you
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  Speaker 3: know Lebron coming from a team that finished what as
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  Speaker 3: a five seed last year in the West.
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  Speaker 5: It's possible that.
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  Speaker 3: They could be a four to six or seven seed
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  Speaker 3: again this year. And Bead's probably gonna have some measure
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  Speaker 3: of injury. You can't bettle Lebron playing with so many games.
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  Speaker 3: They got to figure out how to work Jalen Brown
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  Speaker 3: into this poor VJ Edge comy. You know, you're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be getting more shots and now they taken shots
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  Speaker 3: from you. Like there's there's a lot that can go wrong,
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  Speaker 3: there's also a lot that can go right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but I commend him for that.
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  Speaker 1: He's a mercenary and he went to the one place
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  Speaker 1: where people can take shots of him if it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: go well.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, but I will say that that part
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  Speaker 3: I give him credit for though, I think that as
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  Speaker 3: long as he like plays hard, he'll be fine there, right,
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  Speaker 3: I think if he demonstrates some effort, he'll be okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad that he was wise enough to like not
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  Speaker 3: keep going back to places that hate him, right, So, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when he went back to Cleveland, he went
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  Speaker 3: somewhere that people hated him. They came around on it,
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  Speaker 3: like it is funny to see how quick people come
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  Speaker 3: around on the idea, but they still hated him.
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  Speaker 5: Then he went to the Lakers.
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  Speaker 3: They spent a long time hating you, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: think they ever actually got over hating him. If he
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  Speaker 3: had gone to Golden State, Hey, just going back somewhere
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  Speaker 3: where they hate you.
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  Speaker 5: Going to Miami.
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  Speaker 3: I never felt like the fans hated him, but I
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  Speaker 3: do not feel like the team loves.
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  Speaker 2: Him, right, I agree?
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  Speaker 3: You know, like this right here at Les go somewhere
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  Speaker 3: with a bit of a clean start.
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  Speaker 6: Right, Boumonia, Are you surprised by the criticism narrative that
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  Speaker 6: Lebron is ring chasing signing with Philadelphia?
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  Speaker 2: He should be?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what is he supposed to go find a
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  Speaker 3: team that isn't good? The like of all the teams
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  Speaker 3: that were available to him, which one would he wind
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  Speaker 3: up at where people wouldn't say that he was ring chasing?
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  Speaker 3: Because I think maybe the most interesting option was actually Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: Would people have accused him.
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  Speaker 3: Of ring chasing if he had gone to play with
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball, who have a chance to
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  Speaker 3: be in like an excellent, monstrous, giant NBA backcourt, would
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  Speaker 3: that have been ring chasing? So like, I think that
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  Speaker 3: it would be ring chasing if he went to let's say,
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  Speaker 3: somehow Oklahoma City decided to add him for the minimal
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  Speaker 3: that would be ring the Nicks, Yes, yes, yeah, but yeah, right,
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  Speaker 3: like somebody that's all the way there. The Sixers were
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  Speaker 3: seven seed.
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  Speaker 2: Yes last year, Come on, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's right, Durant went to Golden State that deserved
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  Speaker 1: to be criticized.
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  Speaker 3: This is not that, right, Yeah, like Duran going to
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  Speaker 3: Golden State that was another one. It is like, what
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  Speaker 3: are we saying that that team was too good for
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  Speaker 3: him to go to?
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  Speaker 5: And the answer is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they won a title the year before.
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  Speaker 5: But at the same time, you be him, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. So I want to go to a worst.
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  Speaker 2: Team like, like, like you.
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  Speaker 5: Gotta play Oregon trailed on Pharma. Huh, that's the only
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  Speaker 5: way that you can do it, all.
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  Speaker 6: Right, Bomani, what do you make of the Warriors essentially
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  Speaker 6: just throwing their hands up and telling Steph, we tried.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something that I have learned in
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  Speaker 3: my travels and I will say to a degree in
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  Speaker 3: my career, and it's a tough thing. Some people decide
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  Speaker 3: that there is a certain way that they are going
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  Speaker 3: to comport themselves, and there's a certain decency with which
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  Speaker 3: they are going to comport themselves, and acting a fool
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  Speaker 3: about stuff is beneath them and they find that to
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  Speaker 3: be embarrassing and they're never going to do that. But
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: human beings in these group dynamics respond to the person. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: people try to make the decision that won't make anybody mad.
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  Speaker 5: Steph is never mad.
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  Speaker 3: And therefore there's great potential for the decision to always
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  Speaker 3: go against you. Like I think all of us, at
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  Speaker 3: some point or another have worked for somebody where everything
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  Speaker 3: that you do is around just trying not to make
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  Speaker 3: that person mad, right, just just just trying to keep
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  Speaker 3: everything smooth with that person. And people always do that
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  Speaker 3: because nobody likes the discomfort or be around that person
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  Speaker 3: that's gonna make it all feel weird. And Steph has
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  Speaker 3: demonstrated himself to be the guy that's just gonna keep
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  Speaker 3: on going no matter what, and as a result, they
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  Speaker 3: kind of treating him like that. Now, to be fair
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: to the Warriors, they didn't go get Jimmy Butler, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not very long ago, like a really good
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  Speaker 3: player with a championship sort of pedigree. Like I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to pretend like they haven't made any moves to
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  Speaker 3: try to get anything done, and they are definitely counting
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  Speaker 3: on the idea that Jimmy comes back and plays well,
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  Speaker 3: then everything is gonna be okay, or at least they're
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  Speaker 3: going to be close.
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  Speaker 5: That's what they're going for.
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  Speaker 3: But at say time, if that was Lebron James Auto
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  Speaker 3: Max deal data done something.
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  Speaker 2: Crumbs, Yes, crumbs.
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  Speaker 1: I think the funniest part of this story and the
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  Speaker 1: part I'm most interested in, what do you imagine is
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  Speaker 1: happening in Boston right now because.
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  Speaker 2: Of your Brad Stevens.
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  Speaker 1: What you did is you traded Jalen Brown to Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: and made that team attractive enough for Lebron James to
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  Speaker 1: choose that team as the fifth starter on that team,
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  Speaker 1: and that can't be going well in Boston for Brad
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  Speaker 1: Stevens right now.
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  Speaker 3: What I think that Brad messed up on was thinking
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  Speaker 3: that if they didn't make the honest deal that there
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  Speaker 3: could still be a deal where you got Jaylen Brown
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  Speaker 3: out of there, like it showed that you could get
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  Speaker 3: a lot for Jalen Brown. Right where I think they
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  Speaker 3: aired on that trade and why they should have thrown
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  Speaker 3: whoever else was in it was necessary. It's an old
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  Speaker 3: NBA adage. Isy, I know you'd have heard this a
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  Speaker 3: million times, but it's true. You win the trade if
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  Speaker 3: you got the best player. And they had found a
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  Speaker 3: trade where Jalen Brown would not be the best player,
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  Speaker 3: meaning that they would be the ones to get the
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  Speaker 3: best player and they would win. Instead, they were left
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  Speaker 3: with a bunch of trades where Jalen Brown was the
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  Speaker 3: best player, and it was done under a set of
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  Speaker 3: circumstances that then allowed for Jalen Brown to decide where
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  Speaker 3: he would and would not go, And that's how you
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  Speaker 3: wind up with that paltry package that they got back
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  Speaker 3: because they let too many variables. Then ultimately get involved.
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  Speaker 3: What you're hoping for, if you're Brad Stevens, is that
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  Speaker 3: it turns into a big, old, messy, dramatic mess with
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Brown down there, because I feel like Boston must
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  Speaker 3: have just clearly realized we can't bring him back here
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  Speaker 3: after what.
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  Speaker 5: Happened last season.
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  Speaker 3: What happened last season was he took thirty eight percent
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  Speaker 3: of the shots and he loved every minute of it,
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  Speaker 3: and that was never going to happen again.
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  Speaker 4: I was just about to go there with you, just
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  Speaker 4: wonder how likely it would be that Jalen Brown be
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  Speaker 4: the one that turns this into something of a team turmoil,
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: trying to Oh, he's at.
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  Speaker 5: The top of the last.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't there.
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  Speaker 3: It's his thing. It's not gonna be Lebron. Like, say
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want about Lebron turmoil. Teams are not his thing, right,
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  Speaker 3: It's not gonna be him. Embiid is an interesting case
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  Speaker 3: because Embiid, I think I don't think MBI can play
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  Speaker 3: NBA basketball and not being the center.
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  Speaker 5: Of everything on offense, and so I don't like, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Know how that works with all these other guys that
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  Speaker 3: they are bringing in here. Tyrese MAXI like, why would
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  Speaker 3: I want to give up shots like this doesn't make
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  Speaker 3: any Like, it doesn't make any sense if I'm if
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  Speaker 3: I'm those guys like this is Jalen Brown is the
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  Speaker 3: one that's gotta be like, hey, man, you thought you
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  Speaker 3: would earn your chance to be the guy and now
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  Speaker 3: you're on a guyless team because the team has so
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  Speaker 3: many guys, right, but you no, he's if it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: get weird. I generally think the weirdest guy is the
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  Speaker 3: one that's going to be the reason.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Lebron's been on a team that made huge changes
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of the season in Cleveland, remember with
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  Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas and everything else. I wouldn't be shocked if
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  Speaker 4: they're sort of mutually Jalen Brown's like, Hey, this isn't
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  Speaker 4: really working out for me. Why don't you go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and try to trade me because you're gonna get good
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  Speaker 4: value for me still, And that conversation could happen as
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  Speaker 4: early as like December.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but can't exactly what's the value that you can
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  Speaker 3: get for Jalen Brown. Some depth Jalen Brown and Jason
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Tatum is so interesting to me because as much as
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  Speaker 3: I think we think of the Celtics as.
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  Speaker 5: Like an analytics type of operation.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you two guys the analytics kind of
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  Speaker 3: like but don't love Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown Like
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: neither of them are advanced statistics monsters. In fact, Tatum's
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  Speaker 3: thing is weird because the advanced numbers speak more highly
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  Speaker 3: of his defense than most people do, but not nearly
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  Speaker 3: as highly of his offense.
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  Speaker 5: Like both of those guys, I.
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  Speaker 3: You put Tatum on the market, Like, ask yourself, if
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: you got a team, what would you really want to
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  Speaker 3: give up for a team where Jason Tatum is your
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  Speaker 3: best player?
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  Speaker 2: Like? How much?
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Like all around the league? How many of you guys
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: are giving up your best player? Like, if you're Detroit,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: they asked, offer you k cutting half for Jason Tatum?
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: Do you make that trade? Because I sure don't know.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: That's before the and that's before the Achilles.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: How'd you feel about the Knicks saying we don't want.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: Lebron Jim Dolan has waited how long?
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: To have it in line in the place, to be
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: able to be like.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Naho over here.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: Yes, we were straight.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: We're the defending champions. Y what do we what do
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: we need Lebron's old ass.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you that it feels great Bron.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: Like like the Knicks.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: I'm counting on Knicks fans to keep a little bit
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: of humble to them, but i'd understand if they couldn't,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: especially after that.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: We can't.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Uh that is back to we now, like you're all
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: the way the prodigal God says returned.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Listen, we won a title.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, so opening night, who is the last Philadelphia
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: seventy six or starter to be announced by the PA
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: announcer Joel emb It's.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Gotta be Lebron though, right.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: No, joelmb really no question is Joel Let us never
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: forget that Joel Embiid made his own nickname the process.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: He took that whole nonsensical process idea and may trust
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: the process. Trust Joel Embiid like he's still there. He's
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: still a former MVP. They're going to retire his jersey
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: one day. He is a Hall of Famer. He's going
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: last until the day he leaves tout and you know
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: why because he's the one that'll whine about of course.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is how it goes, right, last
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: is the most important player?
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: First?
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Now, becomes the second most important player, right, like you
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: can Lebron. You can announce Lebron first, let the crowd
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: go crazy, Two, three, and four don't matter so much,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: and then you get five.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jen Brown went there to be announced last.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I mean he did.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: I think first will be Lebron.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I think Jleen Brown will be second, Edge Comb will
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: be third, MAXI will be fourth, and bid will be fifth.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Forwards guards process.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, but edge Comb has said very quickly. Right, It's
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: like it's in and out right.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: If I am Edgecomb's agent, you guys gotta get me
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: out of here.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: How how am I supposed to get my money? How
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: am I supposed to get better? How am I supposed
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: to fell?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: There's like, imagine this.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: You're the number four pick, and you were very good
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: as a rookie, and the plan for your next year
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: is to give you fewer shots. Now, to be fair,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: it would not surprise me. And in fact, I go
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: so far as to say that I expected that of
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: that starting five, the player who will have the fewest
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: fga's is going to be Lebron James.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: This, yeah, I can see that. I mean I can
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: see him having a high assist season. Look at all
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: these toys I have around me. You guys go get yours,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: and he can start. If it's a big play down
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: the stretch, he can initiate the offense.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: He's always been somebody who's more than willing to give
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: up the shots.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: So absolutely, you get to move Maxie off the ball
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: a little bit more, right, I mean there's a lot
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: that can happen until lebron Or and b get hurt.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Last question, Bom will get you out of here.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: It's a question We've been asking every single guest Indiana
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: University of Indiana football or basketball school.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: It's so funny.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Currently, all I'm saying is this, the it took a
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: national championship in football to get in to get as
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: much attention in at that school as would if they
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: made it to the sweet sixteen. That's like, and I'm
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: saying this to somebody who spent a lot of time
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: in Chapel Hill. Right, Yes, there is nothing that football
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: team could do and that stopped being a basketball school.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: The problem is Indiana is a basketball school that isn't
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: good at basketball, but it doesn't mean that it's not
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: a basketball school. Take NC State is an interesting example,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: NC State has a history of football success, but in
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: C State, I mean a basketball success.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: But it's a football school, right, yeah, I said that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: Ste Gott said, no, they're a basketball school.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Well because the championship playing basketball.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, but you gotta go there.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: You just gotta be there, like like you get there.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: That's a that's a that's a school. That's an SEC
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: school that just ain't good enough to be in the SEC.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Like that is that is absolutely a football school, but
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: they do have two national championships in basketball.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: What's interesting is most basketball schools want to be a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: football school. That's what they want to be known for.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Except for Carolina, I'm with you on that. They're perfectly
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: fine being a basketball school.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: They recognize that they need to get enough money out
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: of football. Like, what's gonna do Bill Belichick in is
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: all that money they're giving him could have gone to basketball.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: That's what's gonna do him?
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Me in every like what they like, it reached a
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: certain point where they gave him all this money and
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: they're like, hey, man, now you're talking about cutting into
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: the basketball, buddy.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Basketball is what makes people feel good around here.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they call Indiana what the cradle of basketball as
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: if they had anything to.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: No, But nobody loves as a state as people. Nobody
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: loves basketball more than Indiana, right, And there's a very
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: simple reason as to why it ain't just it just
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: ain't got that many black people in it. So they
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: get to enjoy basketball without you know a lot of
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: their hang ups and their problems. You know, like you
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: think about this, people don't think about Indiana in this way.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: You know, you think about the end of the high
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: School Stayed Basketball Tournament. Glenn Robinson's team won that he
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: from Gary, Indiana. Right, that's still in Indiana, but it
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: ain't what nobody thinks about. Like Indiana basketball is thought
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: of as white people playing basketball, and in that case,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: they can love it in a different way than people can.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: And a lot of these other places Indian high school
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: basketball nobody cares more about. Like that's Texas high school football,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Like nobody cares more about it than they do. They
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: just let that program at Trophy for the last thirty years,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: starting with letting Bobby Nice stay too long.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Boll MANI we mentioned Carolina football and Bill Belichick and
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Michael Lombardi's certainly not doing them any favors right now.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: It's never a good sign when you start to get
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: in trouble and everybody can't wait to dunk on you
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: on the internet, which is what's happening to Michael Lombardi.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: What do you kind of make of that situation?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: It sounds like one of those situations that happens when
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: your people already want to fire you because they're they're
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: they're under investigation from whatever this new organization is that,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: by the way, just suspended somebody for not paying back
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: a four hundred dollars plane ticket to an agent likes
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: it's like the old days again, right right, So all
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: we know is that Lombardi is under some sort of investigation.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many people remember when Jeremy Pruett
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: was the coach at Tennessee and n CAA put him
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: on investigation, and as I recall, Tennessee told on Jeremy
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Pruett because they wanted to be able to fire him
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: for cause. I have no reason to believe that Mike
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Lombardi committed a like I haven't seen to report it,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: like if they said exactly what his accused transgression was.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: But it sounds like the sort of thing that gets
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: you fired when your bosses already want to fire you
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and they really really really want that guy.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, someone told someone find something.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever it takes, whatever it takes, get this dude
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: out of here.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: And He's just what I'm amazed by with.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick is nobody thinks this guy's good at anything except.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: You, Like, nobody even thinks he's good.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: When he was doing this stuff, then we're doing nobody
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: thinks he's good at that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Right, Yes, I mean we were bidding against ourselves.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Taylor was so excited when he got him.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: He was, oh, no, man, my guy. Daddy Park has
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: made a great point. It made a great point about
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Lombardi and some point.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: But he was just like, look, the last time you
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: heard from Mike Lombardi, he was on the radio losing
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: arguments to me.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Belichick's GM at North Carolina.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Hey man, Belichick, good luck to you, buddy, Like like
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: they better by the way, it's on the board that somehow,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: some way they could be really good this year. But
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: if they got caught cheating recruiting bombs, because that's the
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: thing they like.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Bombs, put it on the polls. Is North Carolina? Does
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Belichick like bums.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: There was a story about like a small group of
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: five coach that was like looking around recruiting and being like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: why is North Carolina here?
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Why are we recruiting the same player?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: And by the way, that didn't make that coach feel
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: like I think we got a diamond in the rough here.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: No, he's like, no, what are we doing?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Valors, why are you here?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Like every now and then in my life or like
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: with somebody like in New York like sees me on
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the bush, like wait a minute, what are you?
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: What are you doing on the bus?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: That is that is what they're thinking about Bill Belichick
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and Duble of the players he's recruiting
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: So good at the right time with Bomani Jones wherever
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you get your podcast, we appreciate the time as always,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: my man, thank you for doing it all right, brother,
• 24:21
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