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Happy Hour #158: When the Past Runs By · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm welcome to Stuff Will Never Tell you, a production
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  Speaker 2: of My Heart Radio, and welcome to another edition of
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  Speaker 2: Happy Hour. As always, if you are choosing to drink,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you're choosing to do, please do so responsibly. Samantha,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing my bubble water? That's so yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh?
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  Speaker 3: You know Mustaple, what about you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm drinking. I don't know if people remember this,
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  Speaker 2: but I had a real throat issue when we recorded
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  Speaker 2: our audio book, and ever since then, I've been drinking
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  Speaker 2: like warm water and lemon and ginger a lot. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm drinking today is Marti Gras. So I have
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  Speaker 2: friends coming over and there'll be plenty of drinks later
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  Speaker 2: to be had, so save up for that. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: almost did this. Happy Hour was almost my investigation into
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  Speaker 2: some of the more sexualized trends of things like Marty
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  Speaker 2: Gras and Saint Patrick's Day. But I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: actually have to research that, and that's not what Happy
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  Speaker 2: Hour is about. So that's not what we're doing today.
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  Speaker 2: I actually wanted to talk about kind of when you
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  Speaker 2: go back to a place she used to frequent a lot,
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  Speaker 2: like when you have these memories that come back because
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  Speaker 2: you can see the time of your life you were
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  Speaker 2: in when you were in this place. And the reason
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about this is because last weekend,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, Samantha, I had a bunch of friends
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  Speaker 2: that I've known since elementary school, middle school come over
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  Speaker 2: and we went to Piedmont Park, which is this big
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  Speaker 2: popular park in Atlanta. And I used to run every day,
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  Speaker 2: every day in Piedmont Park and I stopped during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 2: And also, my knees are bad, so I've tried to
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  Speaker 2: pick it up a couple times since the pandemic and
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  Speaker 2: it does make me sad, but it my knees are
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  Speaker 2: not good anymore. I went to years of physical therapy
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  Speaker 2: and they're just not. It hasn't worked out for me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to admit, if I'm being honest with myself,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been completely consistent with it. I was for
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  Speaker 2: a long time though, and it still didn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: be be working. But definitely not now. Definitely not now.
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  Speaker 2: But it was just strange because I've remembered how big
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  Speaker 2: a part of my life that was, and it was
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  Speaker 2: I felt like I could almost see myself like running
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  Speaker 2: by every day I would do this, and it's completely changed.
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  Speaker 2: I was telling Samantha before this, it's got like all
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  Speaker 2: these new pathways and it's got like a little swamp area,
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  Speaker 2: it's got a new dog park, and it just it
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  Speaker 2: just brought back all of these memories and made me
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  Speaker 2: kind of sad of like, you know, I would have
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  Speaker 2: really loved to run this at the time when I
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  Speaker 2: was running. That would have been really nice. But it
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  Speaker 2: was also kind of a closure almost. It was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't do that anymore. That's not who you
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  Speaker 2: are anymore. You had your time, you had your time running,
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  Speaker 2: and you didn't take care of yourself like everyone told
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  Speaker 2: you you should. But it was really lovely despite all
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  Speaker 2: of the the memory he's resurfacing, because I was with
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  Speaker 2: my friends and it was a nice day. It's the
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  Speaker 2: first day of March, and we were helping a friend
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  Speaker 2: with her her business and we were taking all these
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  Speaker 2: pictures of her the thing she's made, and uh, it
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  Speaker 2: was really nice, but it just felt strange. It felt
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  Speaker 2: like this used to be such a big part of
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  Speaker 2: my life and now I was like, oh God, I
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  Speaker 2: don't recognize this anymore. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like I feel like that's just the ever
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  Speaker 3: growing places. Every time I go somewhere that I used
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  Speaker 3: to go to all the time and then there's a
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  Speaker 3: new building, I'm like, what what is this? Like here
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  Speaker 3: in Atlanta, we have a place called East Lana Village,
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  Speaker 3: and I guess when I even before I've moved there,
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  Speaker 3: it was kind of like the hip Yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: know it's un dumb, but like a place to be.
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  Speaker 3: But with like the grungier venue. There's a place called
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  Speaker 3: the Earl who has been threatened to be shut down
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  Speaker 3: every five years, but like has a legacy when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to the shows that they would have, the food,
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  Speaker 3: that they would have, the dive bar etiquette, but like
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  Speaker 3: the good Okra, Like it was really interesting space. But
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  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, all these restaurants popped up
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  Speaker 3: that's like three or four star restaurants with all these accolades,
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  Speaker 3: and we're like, what is this? And as gentrification happened,
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  Speaker 3: it really overtook that area to the point that there
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  Speaker 3: was like these condos right next to one of the largest,
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  Speaker 3: like one of the oldest grubby bar, divy food places
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  Speaker 3: that we used to love and like you can't even
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  Speaker 3: get to that without actually walking into someone's driveway. Weirdly
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  Speaker 3: like it. The way they have set up is so interesting.
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  Speaker 3: But when I see areas like that where I used
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  Speaker 3: to visit and being like, what has happened here? And
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  Speaker 3: you don't you don't see it. Like Atlanta has a
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  Speaker 3: place called West Midtown, which was not the name now
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  Speaker 3: and everybody's making it happen, And people who've lived there forever,
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  Speaker 3: people who lived there, who lived there before gentrification and
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  Speaker 3: have been ousted, are angry about this because they're like,
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  Speaker 3: this is not what that is. Stop trying to make
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  Speaker 3: this happen, like very angry. But with like running, I
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  Speaker 3: do that too, because I'm like I used to run here.
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  Speaker 3: I like the fact that I don't do p street
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  Speaker 3: road races anymore, which is pretty big here in Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: and the Southeast in general, like seventy five thousand participants
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  Speaker 3: at one point, like all these things, and like getting
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  Speaker 3: into it was a lottery, and I've been every time
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  Speaker 3: I've ever entered, I've been able to get in. But
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  Speaker 3: because I'm the same way, my knees are not okay,
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  Speaker 3: to the point that the amount of like stretchy funky
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  Speaker 3: sounds and popping sounds that's come from it, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little concerned about what's happening. But like we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about Cardiac Hill, and I was trying to explain
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  Speaker 3: that to my parents, even though it's still very much
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  Speaker 3: in existence. But having the memory, I'm trying to remember
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  Speaker 3: when I used to do that and how much I
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  Speaker 3: hated it but loved conquering it. But like all of
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  Speaker 3: these moments of like it just kind of going away.
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  Speaker 3: And I haven't participated in the p Street road race
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  Speaker 3: since the last time you and I did it, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: and your top I beat your time for the first
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  Speaker 3: time ever because you were like, I'm done rightly so
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  Speaker 3: and I hadn't like trained, But like, it's weird getting
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  Speaker 3: older and then looking back at an area that you've
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  Speaker 3: lived in and for so long. Aging is an interesting
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  Speaker 3: concept because I've been thinking about, like how I used
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  Speaker 3: to see things, going out doing these things, doing these activities,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know what's going on anymore because I
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  Speaker 3: don't do activity.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that brings me to another point I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: bring up, which I mentioned to you. There is a
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  Speaker 2: popular spot in Piedmont Park called Park Tavern and I
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  Speaker 2: we were walking back my apartment. I'm very lucky I
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  Speaker 2: can walk to Piedmont Park. I used to walk to
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  Speaker 2: our office. That was nice, but we don't have our
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  Speaker 2: office isn't there anymore. But I used to go to
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  Speaker 2: this place a lot when I was younger. It does
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  Speaker 2: a lot of like like it would have an ice
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  Speaker 2: skating rink during the holidays, as a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. We had an office party there once. It
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  Speaker 2: was disastrous, but that's besides the point. That was not
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  Speaker 2: Park Tavern's fault. That's where I accidentally called my boyfriend
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  Speaker 2: my friend and we had a big fight about it later. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it was so different and it was so loud, and
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  Speaker 2: it was so packed, and I just remember thinking like
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  Speaker 2: this has changed so much since I have been here,
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  Speaker 2: since like my days of coming here and doing this,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know, I just felt. And then I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to look at like we could maybe go
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  Speaker 2: to some other bars that are nearby, but all the
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  Speaker 2: other bars I was thinking about were closed. They don't
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  Speaker 2: exist anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, well, when you were telling me about what
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  Speaker 3: was happening there, like surprised you. It surprised me because
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  Speaker 3: like part Tavern is known for jazz. It used to
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  Speaker 3: do like near live music and had some weird still
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  Speaker 3: surprises me that they serve sushi.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they do.
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  Speaker 3: It still throws me off. I'm like, wait, what so
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  Speaker 3: all of that to say, like there's definitely a growth,
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  Speaker 3: because you were saying it was like very sports bar
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  Speaker 3: is like and I was like what because I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: It's been years since I've been there. Don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 3: it used to be a great place for brunch. You
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  Speaker 3: would go to an activity at the Piedmont Park and
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  Speaker 3: then go to Park Tavern to have a drink, like
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  Speaker 3: just those different things. So I do remember people being
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  Speaker 3: there for like kickball, but we don't consider kickball to
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  Speaker 3: be that level of like a sports bar, right.
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  Speaker 1: No, okay, I don't think so tell me I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I just found that very interesting, Uh, that
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  Speaker 3: what you were saying, because that's I feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: a pretty big change.
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  Speaker 2: It felt like a very big change to me. Like
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  Speaker 2: the AstroTurf alone, I feel like it used to be
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  Speaker 2: like more wood panels and I don't know, but it
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  Speaker 2: was loud and packed and I just felt so out
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  Speaker 2: of place because I went in thinking it was going
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  Speaker 2: to be this one thing and it was not that thing. Also,
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  Speaker 2: we had this experience recently, we got to hang out
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  Speaker 2: in person with Christina, super producer Christina. They have the
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  Speaker 2: system too, where you walk up to the bar now
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  Speaker 2: and to order food there instead of having a waiter
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  Speaker 2: come to you, and that line was huge. So ah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It's interesting. I don't know. This might have been.
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  Speaker 2: They do a lot of events there. I was worried
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  Speaker 2: it might be Oysterfest, to be honest, but it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, But.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe this was a special It
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  Speaker 2: was I think the first day of March Madness. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know much about March Madness. It was March, so
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  Speaker 2: it's possible. But I mean maybe that maybe they're not
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  Speaker 2: like that normally, but it would. It's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: put down astro turf in a bar anyway. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like experiencing these kind of strange like
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  Speaker 2: memories encroaching on me, like ghost like you used to
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  Speaker 2: do this all the time, do you remember that. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh god, I did. And it feels like a different person.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like a different life.
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  Speaker 3: It really does. When I think about running as well,
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  Speaker 3: like doing when I mentioned the people that I used
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  Speaker 3: to know half marathons, I used to do two a
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  Speaker 3: year at least for like five years. That seems ridiculous. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that conversation. I see pictures of me doing little like
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  Speaker 3: races here and there, and I was like, what.
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  Speaker 1: Is that me?
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  Speaker 3: But it is interesting because it Yeah, also living in
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  Speaker 3: an area and watching the changes, wishing for things. I
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  Speaker 3: just saw the post someone talking about their favorite hangout
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  Speaker 3: spot in college is gone. Like hearing about all the
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  Speaker 3: places that are closed down. I mean in Atlanta once again,
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  Speaker 3: that West MIDTOWNA. I'm putting that in quotes here, A
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  Speaker 3: big chunk of restaurants are gone, even one of the
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  Speaker 3: biggest stables, which is called West Egg, that had been
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  Speaker 3: there for decades and now it's completely gone. They're closed down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of it happened during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of it, you know, it is gentrification
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  Speaker 2: or it is it's expensive to have a restaurant. But
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  Speaker 2: I feel bad, Like I feel bad both because that's happening,
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  Speaker 2: but also I have my infamous Atlanta map and when
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  Speaker 2: people visit Atlanta, I send it to them and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what all of this is open anymore? Idea? Right?
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  Speaker 2: It was good at one time. If it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Open, oh man, memories, Yeah, yeah it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was both nice and I'm I am and like
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  Speaker 2: a little bittersweet, I guess, but I'm glad we did it.
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  Speaker 2: We had a good time when went out for a walk. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we were in the sun. The weather was lovely. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't get any food at Park Tavern, but we didn't
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  Speaker 2: get a dressed. We were so confused about the ordering process.
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  Speaker 2: And I can't stress this enough, Samantha. It was so
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  Speaker 2: wowd like the den of everyone talking. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of those moments where you sit down and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, do we bail now?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a mistake?
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  Speaker 3: What do we do?
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  Speaker 1: Or do we stick it out for one journey silently
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  Speaker 1: go and hope no one sees you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, Well now I know, now I know. But yes, listeners,
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