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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 1_ EPISODE #54_HOST LATONYA M LITTLEJOHN_(SHOW #4) · DA CREW Podcast

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M N every second Monday and forth Friday of each Monthy, this is she
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that you don't want to miss. Every find good evening, good evening,
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good evening. Thank you for tuning in tonight, for delay, but not
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denying the podcast. I am your host, Latania Michelle little John. On
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tonight, I will have a special guest, Miss Joyce Frasier, and she'll
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she will be telling you her story. I can't wait to hear it.
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Before we begin, I would like to read to you a Bible verse and
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I'm coming from Psalm's thirty four and eighteen and it says God is near to
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those who have a broken heart, and he saves those who have a crushed
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spirit. And you know, Before we go any further, I would like
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to also send out a special shout out to Trevida Harris. We're still praying
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for you and your family. We hold you near and dear to our hearts.
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And without further ado, I would like to introduce to you Miss Joyce
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Frasier. Hello, Hello, Hello, everyone, Hey, how are you
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tonight? I'm great, I'm excited. I'm excited to have you here.
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Listen. Um, I got your book and it is entitled let Me tell
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it by Miss Joyce Frasier. Yes, and your book is it is amazing.
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So let me ask you. Can you share? Can you share your
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story? The story behind why you had to write this book? Yeah,
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the reason why I had to write this book and call it my story.
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Let me tell it because what happened to me June to six or twenty nineteen.
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I wasn't able to talk to nobody, not even the news report or
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nothing. I went through. I mean I really went through. I went
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through so bad that I didn't I didn't think I was gonna make it.
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Really, I didn't want to make it. To be honest with you,
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okay, Um, I would like to go a little deeper and find out,
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you know, what happened on that particular date that morning when I got
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off. Let me take you back to Second Ship. When I got off
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Second Sheriff, I had taught my son twice to mental health. So that
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particular day when I got off from Second Ship, I told my husband,
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I said, look, I'm gonna take him to the hospital to Spumber Regional
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tonight and put him in the mental part because he really needed his medicine.
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So when we got off, we rolled all over to my old neighborhood labory
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minor handicamp ground. Everybody kept saying they saw Drico here. I ain't gonn
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want to call his day. They saw him over here, everywhere they told
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us they saw him. We went there looking for him. Wasn't no sign
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of him. I don't know if the enemy just had him like dodging me
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or whatever. But that particular night he came in around five something in the
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morning. Me and my husband had went to bed, and he heard a
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knock at the garage dough because he didn't have a key to the house.
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He just had the thing to let the garage up to come into the back
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door and then we let him in. So my husband got about the bed
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to go let it entreco in. So he let him in. He said,
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he said, what's up, pop? And he went on upstairs.
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My husband came back into the bedroom and closed the door and I said,
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baby, what did he say? He said, he said, what's up,
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pop? And he went on upstairs. Okay, Um, before we
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dig any deeper about it, um, let me ask you about you and
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your husband. How did you guys meet and you know, get to where
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we had to write a book. How can you share that story? Yes,
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Um, I set up under his leadership in ten. He or dying
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me as an evangelist in the ministry in twenty ten in shot of North Carolina.
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So I hadn't seen him in probably five six seven years. To me
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and one of my passive friend went to a comfort and or comfort up and
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shot of nor Calinapostle John Ecort was there. So when I walked up to
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him to talk to him, he didn't remember me because I had picked up
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weight and gain weight and everything. Right, So my friend girl was still
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keeping in touch with him and stuff. So they had talked on the phone
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and he said, where is Evangel Glenn at She said, that was Evangel
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Glenn that was with me. He said, oh, my God, call
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her and tell her to call me. I need to talk to her.
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So when I talked to him on the phone, I called him and I
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said, hey, my friend girl. You know she was wondering, did
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you want to go out sometime? He said no, right now, I'm
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not looking for nobody because he had just went through a divorce his self,
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right, So as time went by, he stepped he kept calling me and
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stuff. He invited me to dinner. So I drove the Charlotte. We
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went to the dinner. We went to dinner, we went to the movie,
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we wentn't walking and we just started talking on the phone on my lunch
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break and he said that he desired to be married again. I said already
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he said yeah. He said, but the Lord told me you my wife,
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and for me not to look no more. I said, what your
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wife? He said, yeah, he said, go pray about it.
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So you know, as a woman like me, I'm driving back from Charlotte'm
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just a granting all happen. I've laid across my bed talking to the Lord.
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I said, well, Lord, I tell you what if he my
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husband, let me take care of the man of God. That's all I
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said to God. Yes, over the night, God gave me my answer
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that that was my husband. Okay, So when I called him back,
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I set his engage, his hand of marriage. Okay. How long after
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the engagement was it before you actually got to the wedding date? Child,
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We probably day a couple, a couple of weeks with them, about two
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months. Un my knees then and my two of my knees. They had
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put that wedding together. Honey, Okay. We got married on May the
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seven. Okay, you were speaking about your son and um having mental health
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issues. Is that something that he's dealt with his entire life ever since he
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was aged seven? They diagnosed at the age of seven. Okay. Is
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there anything in particular that you know he was doing to cause them to diagnose
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him like that? Oh? He would show out in class, gets so
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upset, flipped the chairs over. The school has sent him to a psychota.
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They had started him on Ridlin, being back in them days he was
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taking Ritlin as a little bar. Okay, okay, um. And again
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reading your story, Um, such a powerful story, and I would like
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to get back to that and ask you, um, you know how how
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it came to be that your son was in your home? How you know
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how all this transpired. He had been gone for three years at a state
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mental hospital, and he wasn't even here when we got married. But he
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would talk to my husband over the phone and say, pop, let me
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let me wrap for because he used to love a rap so my husband used
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to be on the phone listening to him wrapping everything. So he hadn't even
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been home with us for three months before he did what he did okay,
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and we was doing. We did what the judge told us. When he
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got out that morning was me, my sister passed a Glenn, and my
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husband. We had to go down to Anderson to the feather of judge I
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mean feat Judge Dre and Anderson right to pick him up. And the judge
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said, first thing tomorrow, take him to go and tell mental health.
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He only had two weeks left on that shot. We did just what the
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judge told us to do. That next morning we had him down at the
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mental health insponbered and they said it don't work like this. We got to
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have all his paperwork. My husband me was there with Draco. I said,
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so y'all have and give them nothing. They said no, ma'am.
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I said, well, this is what the judge told me to do.
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They said no, man, we came, so they made him appointment to
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come back within thirty days. My husband didn't go. The second time,
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just me and and Drico went and this time we saw a white man and
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he said, I remember a steward. I said, okay, can you
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get stewards something he already been on. He said no, we gotta wait
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on his paperwork. Okay, he gave him another appointment. His next appointment
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was June to twenty four. He did what he did on June to six
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or twenty nineteen. Okay, So knowing you know what was going on with
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him, did he show signs that he really needed to get this injection?
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Was he acting out? What? Wo? Wow? Was it so urgent
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that he needed it right then? Why? Because he needed his mother?
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Because see, I swing shift for Michelin Tire Company. So if I wasn't
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on swinging shift and saw him every day, I would have known, hey,
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he needed right now. But he will call me on the phone,
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hey baby, at work on my brain, Hey baby, And he made
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me think everything was fine. You know what I'm saying, right, But
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I knew he needed his medicine because remember the judge told me he had but
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two weeks left on that shot. You know, you gotta think we don't
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miss two point mens that had him down and he couldn't get his medicine.
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So so then those guys people in the three star giving him weed drinking then
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you know, yeah, that don't go with the medicine. It does not.
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M Going back to your book, can we talk about what led up
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to the incident and then we'll if you're comfortable speaking about what happened, we'll
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go into it. But what led up to it, I don't think I
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can say that because he didn't have his medicine. That was a sickness,
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you know what I'm saying. Because when my husband said he led him in,
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he said what's up, hop and went on upstairs. Didn't know he
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had had a young lady with him. Okay, and that's what nobody know.
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But that was a young lady there with him upstair, a young lady
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that he that told him she was having his baby, and come to find
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out she wasn't even pregnant. Oh wow, wow, that's a lot.
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Um. So once he got upstairs, um, what took place from from
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that point where he wanted to sleep? And I guess around eight o'clock.
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I think it's when I eight o'clock, my sister called me on the phone
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and said Elaine. Elaine is my middle name. She said, drinko,
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don stole my nephew work band head an air work band, right, So
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I said, Joane's not out here in my yard. She said, look
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out the one I then said, I said, let me go the stairs.
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So I went up that, I said, drinko. He said,
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hum. I said, then you still glad he didn't as work band.
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He said why. I said, because they got you on camera. They
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know you the one stole it. And he said, if he don't have
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his band back by the time he gets here from murther b you're going to
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jail. He said, okay. I said, no, this is what
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we're gonna do. You're gonna get that vand we're gonna take in partet in
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my sister yard. Then I'm gonna take you on to the hospital to mental
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health. At the hospital, he said, okay, mama, But you
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know what, I should have known something, because that was a certain voice
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that he don't normally say, like okay, mama, like you know what.
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You know what I'm saying, I can't describe. But when I think
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about it, yea, it still didn't hit me. So I went downstairs
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in the bear, I masked the bear room where my husband was at in
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bear, I said, baby, get up. I said, We're gonna
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take the band back to my sister how and I'm gonna take in Drico to
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the hospital. He said, Babe, I'll tell you what he said.
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It ain't gonna want me there? Then what's the words that came out of
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my husband mouth? It ain't gonna want me there, he said, dropped
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me off at Crispy Kreme. Donu. Well, I could finish writing my
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new book and just come back and pick me up. So my husband got
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up. He went into the shower bathroom, a massive bedroom bathroom, and
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he was getting ready to shaving stuff. And I had the bedroom door close.
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So when Draco come in, can I go on into the story now?
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Yes? Okay? So when he came in, he pushed the door
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open. I was looking at him, like, boy, what's wrong with
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you? What's wrong with you? His eyes were so big, like they
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were about to pop out of his head, and it was like it was
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like just looking around the bedroom real fast, right, So he looked at
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the master bedroom bathroom door and saw it was cracked, so he charged over
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that to it. By time he pushed it open, he must have had
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the gun down in the front of him his pants, and he just went
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to shoot. And he came out out the bathroom and I was standing there.
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It's like I couldn't move or nothing. When he put the gun to
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my head, I was saying why drink Oh, why, And my husband
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came back to the bathroom dough and it saw him and heard me hollering to
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get the chenchion back on him. So when Drinko went back charging at him,
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you know how, you got a massive bathroom. They got the hiss
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and her saying the toe, and the stand up shower and then the camode
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that was the bathroom door. Close to the camode. My husband ran in
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now and he was holding the dough. He couldn't push the door open,
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so he shot. He shot through the door like that. And so when
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he came out that time, I just shot through the door or the bathroom
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where the camode was at. He just ran on out the house and I
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ran in there to check on Simeuel. And Simeon was like coming out the
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bathroom but was still holding on, like kind of crawling and trying to stand
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up. And I was like, baby, baby, and I was calling
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nine one one. I was like, baby, please don't leave me.
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Whatever you do, please don't leave me. And the only thing he would
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say out of his mind baby, I love you, Baby, I love
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you. And I was just back to him telling him, please don't leave
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me. Simmy. So I had now want to said, please Harry y'all
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and the lady was trying to ask me. I said, please start asking
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me all these questions and get somebody here to help my husband and I answer
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whatever y'all need to answer, whatever question you need to me to answer.
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But do you know how they want to ask you all the suspects still in
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the house. I said, it was my son. He then ran out
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the house. It was just that type of motion, right. So when
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the pyramidics got there, was he still was he still able to communicate?
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Yeah, he was still alive and everything. It was an older cop that
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got the first. I was down on the floor beside send me like leaning
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down, and he never I'm gonna be honest, He never stepped down to
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try to do put pressure on him or CPR. He was like, ma'am.
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The amalysts on the way. So by time the amilists got there,
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they had a victim advocant, a lady and they had took me out the
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room, out the bathroom in the room, said so they can work with
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him, and brought me in the kitchen, set me down at the kitchen
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table, and I was just praying like Lord, please, please, Lord,
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please please like that and um. When they came out with Simea and
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rolled him in the kitchen on the stretcher, his high was closed. He
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was landed and I jumped up and said, it's my husband, dad,
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it's my husband dad, and back three or four cops. They was holding
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me to set me back down and say, ma'am, let us work with
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him, let us work with him. But Simmey was not even moving a
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nothing. So they took him on to the hospital. But for the longest
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they kept him out there in the yards. Called. By time my daughter
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got there, Brianna, she was saying, Mama, they still out there
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in the yard with similar But then I found out later that they had worked
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on him. He left like five times, and after the fifth time they
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said he didn't come back. I'm so sorry. Yeah, so they said
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they were still working on him. That's why they were still in the yard,
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right. Well, they said he was fighting though, But then there
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was a rumor went around said he was shot five or seven times, gone
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walking up the stairs in the house. None of that never happened, so
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nobody never heard my side of the story. But that's not true. When
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I got the paperwork from the corner. The corner took me he only was
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shot three times. And they said the bullet that killed him was the one
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that went through his side where he was holding the door, and they said
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it hit all his main arteries in his stomach. Then they told me that's
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the bullet. But I said, so, how many times was he shot?
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Then he said, the corner on the phone told me it wasn't umber
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three times. So the rumor and the rumor that went around it was five
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and seven times. That's not that's not so it was only three time.
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And I got the paperwork prove it. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I
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want to say to you, um, as far as rumors go, we
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don't worry about rumors. Um. Can you know that happened, You lived
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through it. Um, nobody can tell you better than you how you went
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through this. So, I mean, you know, rumors are just what
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they are, and so we give we give them no power. Ay man,
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ay man. And so I want to ask, um, did your
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son run away or did he stay on the scene. Oh, no,
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he ran away. It was like a man hunt that day. It was
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all over the news. They had my house, my car, my pictures,
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me and my husband. Pictures all over the news, so much attack
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came in, you know, to my phone, to my maginer. It
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was it was very chaos. It was it was real bad. And they
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didn't even know how bad I was hurting myself, you know what I'm saying.
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Where at the hospital had to give me a little tiny peel that every
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time I got upset, my niece would have to give me one and it
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would knock me out, I mean knock me out within a second. Yeah,
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And that the people that was killing me didn't even know how bad I
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was hurting, you know what I'm saying. And I come saying, Lord,
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while you just didn't lay him, take me with him, you know
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what I'm saying. Because I had to. I had to endure a lot
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of suffering. You know what I'm saying. I mean, not look like
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what I've been through now, but I've been through some stuff. What people
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don't understand when you're going through something like this. It was weeks that I
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wasn't even sleeping. I can be up all night long watching two but every
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black Christen moving anything and then punching the next day. It was weeks that
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I wasn't even sleeping. I was paring on. I thought every time I
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drove my yellow Humble that at the red light, people was looking at me
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like they knew because they put my car all over the news. So I
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sold my I sold my Humble, right, yeah, So m all of
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this took place. What is your relationship with your son? Like now,
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I hadn't saw him for almost three years to about two months ago. Because
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you gotta understand, I've haven't been through group support, right, psychiatric counsel.
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I'm still, you know, with psychiot and counsel. Right now,
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I've tended like three or four different groups support group out of Greenville over in
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Grier, and everybody was getting be prepared because, like they said, at
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the end of the day, that's still your child, right. So it
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took me two months. About two months ago i've seen him. I thought
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all these years that had went by, I was kind of nervous and scared,
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and I found out from his counsel that he was scared too. But
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one thing about it. When he talked to me on the phone, he
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said, Mama, why everybody keep telling me I killed pop? He said,
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Mama, I did not kill a pop. I said, yeah,
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you did. Drinko. You shot him and you put a nine to my
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head, but he didn't. He just wouldn't set that he killed pop and
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put a nine to my head. Yeah. I was just about to ask
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you what the conversation was like when you finally were able to talk to him.
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Um, do you get to visit with him? That's only visit I
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don't had. It was two months ago, okay, yeah, yeah,
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because I had my noma had to get changed and everything, so am I
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wasn't even septing calls from him Dan neither, right, Yeah, I understand,
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um who Yeah, your story is is powerful and UM grateful that you
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reached out to me to be a vessel to allow you a platform to speak
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on your story and your situation. And I'm humbled that you chose me.
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Um, you could have chose anybody in this world to share your story with.
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And I'm humbled and I'm grateful. I you know, there's really no
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words to say to make any of this right for you, But I want
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to know what would you tell someone that may be in the same situation dealing
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with a child that has a mental illness. What would you what would you
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say to that to that mom? That may need to get a word from
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someone going through something similar. Whatever you do, any little sign that you
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see, please get some help. Get them to somebody, a document to
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help somebody. Don't stop and to somebody hear your boys. I don't want
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to see this happen to nobody else what I had to endure to lose a
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son and a husband. Right, yeah, let me get your little background.
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Now you got understand Apostle Simeon Jane Fraser. He pastle for twenty five
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years. He had five books on Amazon. He was an awesome man of
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God. Okay, awesome man of God. So to keep his legacy living,
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to keep his legacy moving on, can you tell the people how they
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can go about finding his books to you know, get to know him through
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his words? Yeah, his book is. His books are on Amazon and
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Bars and Nova. Okay, okay, Yes, he was an awesome teacher.
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And I want to ask you how would the people reach out to you
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about your book if they wanted to get a copy of your book. They
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can put my name in on Amazon and Bars and Nova. But it's it's
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supposed to be going to Walmart. And I think the young lady said Target
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too, So Walmart and Target for to be carrying my book soon. Okay,
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that's awesome. That that is awesome. I hope that your book takes
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you to the highest levels because people need to hear your story. They really,
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um, I wants to reach out to you. UM, I know
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that you're UM in the ministry. If they want to reach out to you
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and talk to you directly, how can they reach you? My normal stuff
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is inside my book along with my email address. But they can call me
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any time. Facebook me, I mean, you know, get in touch
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with me through Facebook as George Frasier. Okay, yeah, this hit me.
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Give me a mess and I'll reach out. UM. Do you have
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any anything that you want to say, UM to the people that may be
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listening right now that you know are suffering in silence, that have maybe have
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gone through what you you're going through right now and don't have the ability or
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um, the bravery to speak on their story till they got to keep they
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got to trust God. Because one thing about the devil, he comes to
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kill still and destroy, But the God that we serve, he come backs
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to restore. And He's going to restore everything that I have lost and give
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me back more than what I lost. And he's already daughter because I just
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recently got married awesome man of God and my last name is Keen now like
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Ai n g okay, and we serve an awesome God. And I thank
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God for this man of God that would allow me to talk about my to
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seize husband and allow me to still grieve and comfort me and rub my shoulder
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and let me know it's gonna be okay. But one thing I learned from
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going through these classes and support group. Don't nobody know how long you're gonna
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grieve. Can't nobody to tell you when to stop grieving or grieving gonna go
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away? It don't work like that, y'all, because you've been having the
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best time of your life and all of a sudden, it'll just hit you.
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Sometimes you can just find yourself driving and your crime, or it would
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be something about a song that reminds you of you and your husband or your
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loved one, and it can just hit you from nowhere. And so I
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asked the doctor, I said, well, how long is I'm gonna grieve?
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And christ stuff? He said, Joyce, can't nobody to tell you
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that, he says. Some people don't never stop it's just getting better at
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time. He said, you just gotta learn the new normal, the new
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normal. That was his word. New normal. Yeah, Um, what
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is um, what's going to happen with yourself? Son? Now? From
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what they were saying that that's not gonna be a trial, I think puthy
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and incompetent to stand, incompetent to stand trial. Okay, So there'll never
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be a trial. Okay. So the only thing they're doing is getting him
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on the right medicine, got him in the state hospital, a mental hospital.
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And I could do is just keep praying for him and pray. It's
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one day at a time that God going to deliver him from all the deaths.
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And it's all we can do it just pray. Yeah. Well,
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I'll continue to pray for you and to pray with you, and I pray
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that God grants you the peace that surpasses all understanding. He knows only he
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knows. Um, don't rush your grieving because nobody can tell you. You
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can't put a cap on briething. I mean, as you said, it
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can happen at any time. Um, there's no there's no long you know,
29:11
there there's no time limit on when it will stop, you know,
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but you you will know when you get there, you will definitely know.
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UM. I just want to tell you that we love you, we support
29:23
you, and if you ever need anything from me or from the Crew podcast,
29:30
just just reach out. Hey man, thank you so much. I
29:36
think. Look, I want to say to look at God. When I
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met you, when I reached out to you, you had an open and
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no bilmo. Look at yes man signing this tomorrow. And when you called
29:47
me that morning let me know the twenty said, I said, God,
29:49
you're gonna showed up and showed out again, yes ma'am the day before my
29:55
book signing. Yes, ma'am. It's all coming together for the good of
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those that serve the Lord. So chime is everything, hey ma'am, Yes
30:03
ma'am. So UM, I thank you. I think that's a story.
30:10
UM. I pray that God heals your heart. UM. I pray that
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your new relationship will endure everything that you've surpassed. And again, I just
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I thank you for sharing your story with us tonight. UM. If you
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ever feel like you need to say anything else and you want to get come
30:36
back, please by all means reach out. I'm here, um, and
30:41
that's what we're here for you. Know, UM my podcast, my platform
30:48
is to help people share their stories. That's all I want to do.
30:52
Remember, Can I say one more thing that I got to say because of
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who I am? Yes, I got to say this. I just want
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to say this to those that are watching a situation like this. It wasn't
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even the people in the world that was killing me. It was those that
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Waldie's collar had these titles apostles, prophecies, he bangs, teacher. But
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I want to say this tonight, if you if you wear that title,
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you are to know the prayer of the righteous. They should have been playing
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for my strength instead of trying to kill my character because that wasn't God for
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what they was trying to do to me when they didn't even know the story.
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All right, Well, God created a platform for you to share your
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story tonight, and that you know He'll create even more platforms for you to
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share your story. Um, he always gets the glory, hey man,
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Thank you Jesus. He always gets the glory. So continue to hold your
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head up, continue to talk in His grace and his mercy. And again,
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UM, we're here for you, hey man, Thank you so much.
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Again, I want to thank you for being with me tonight. UM.
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I've enjoyed speaking with you and hearing your story, a powerful story,
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a powerful thank you so much and so UM. And closing tonight, I
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just want to reach out and tell people you know, if you have a
32:32
family member that may be going to going through mental illness, it's okay to
32:39
reach out and get help for them. If you yourself feel like you need
32:45
to reach out to someone, by all means, reach out Because us black
32:50
people, we tend to not feel like we need help in situations like that,
32:57
and we do. Mental illness does not care about your sex, your
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color, your religion, none of that. UM. So if there's anything
33:09
that the Crew podcast can do, or if there's anything that I can do
33:16
on behalf of delay but not denied by all means, please reach out.
33:21
UM. I want to thank everybody for tuning in tonight, UM, and
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again Miss Joyce. It was a pleasure having you tonight. Thank you so
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much. Please keep in touch, please, thank you so much. Thank
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you for allowing me to come on and tear my story so much. Absolutely,
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Amen and everybody, UM, thank you for tuning in again tonight.
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UM. I'll be back on the second Monday of June. So um,
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please join me then at eight o'clock, same great station, same great place.
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UM, I love you all, thank you, and good night,
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good night. A man queen, I was the sweet, sweet sweet.
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I know it wasn't sweet.