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Everclear · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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band that's right. You've done all the work for
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you. All you have to do is push play
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and listen. You could say that I'm band
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curious. I like to get into the weeds
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with my friends about bands that they're into and, and find out
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what it is, why it is that they like them.
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And doing so, we create a top 10 starter kit for you to get into
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the band as well. This week, you could say that
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we're going to swim out past the ocean.
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We're we are actually it, it feels like this one is kind of a
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long time coming. We're talking about Everclear
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today, Anderson. And technically speaking, I had
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Peter's name first. He's not feeling well, so he had
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to bail. So that slides you over to chair
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one. But I believe it was kind of
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like a Co-op thing because I, I think it came up on our sponge
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episode. So talk to me about Everclear
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and why you wanted to do Everclear.
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Yeah, so this one came up on the Sponge one because they're
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playing together this summer with Local Age, who I think you
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may have heard of once or twice, Right.
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But yeah, Everclear, that I probably would have put them up
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ahead of Sponge, but I thought everybody hates Everclear.
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So I was like, now I got to stick with something we can find
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panelists for. This is a band.
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Yeah. Back in the 90s, these were my
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boys and radio just killed them in my opinion.
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So you know, here we are 2830 years later.
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Everything you hear on the radio, for those of us who are
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so brave enough to listen to that, you'll hear 5 songs, and I
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don't like those songs at all. Interesting.
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So yeah, this ends up being something that I think people
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would benefit from taking a second look at.
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And like, you know, they're more than what you hear when you're
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out in the world. Yeah, taking that point,
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Christian, we've you and I have done done a lot of episodes like
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this. You know, we also have Hootie
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and the Blowfish working, which I think is going to kind of live
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in the same lane. Talk to me about Everclear.
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I feel like, I feel like Anderson kind of nailed it.
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This feels like a hey, you know, come take another look at this
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band. I I didn't have have that
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impression really. We've talked before about the
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difference between commercial music in the States and in the
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UK, particularly in this this kind of era.
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You know, a lot of bands that were like the staples I believe
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in in American radio in the 90s, you know, aside from the obvious
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Nirvanas and stuff. But things like, you know, ever
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clear been on the radio that just didn't happen in the UK.
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They were very much not underground, but, you know, an
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alternative band that alternative music fans like,
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like myself liked. So it was a very different scene
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over here. There's more Brit pop and dance
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and the kind of the alternative stuff was always just, as I say,
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just in that lane. But yeah, I I got into them.
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Do you remember, did you have these in, in, in in the US You
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have like a magazine with like a free CD on the front.
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Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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So I love those because you'd get a magazine that you'd want
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to read anyway, and then you'd get ACD where you'd have maybe
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12131415 songs on it from artists, some of which you may
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have heard of, some of which you didn't.
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I like just in the nights I got into loads of bands just through
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those CDs. I hear something and you know,
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because it wasn't like it is today with the subscription
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where you can just pick and choose anything.
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You know, you had to buy something or hear it on the
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radio when we weren't hearing these bands on the radio.
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So I heard, I heard one song by ever Claire.
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I thought, Oh yeah, that's really good.
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But I never then got around to actually getting any of their
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stuff until a few years later. But then when I did, when it
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clicked, I loved the I loved the loved the band.
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Really, really, really good band.
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So yeah, really. I, I mentioned in the chat
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before the show, I, I love my list and looking at my 20, I'm
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really, really pleased with it and I love, I love every song.
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So we're looking forward to it. This will be interesting because
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I, I kind of, you know, took essentially the same approach as
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Anderson, The, the idea of people don't know them past, you
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know, what kind of hits the radio.
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And, you know, I was pleasantly shocked.
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It's it's funny because I feel like I've been hearing #1
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sparkle and fade is great like forever.
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Like I've been hearing that I just never kind of did the dive.
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I I like in this, they don't get the same vitriol as live, but I
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feel like it's parallel. Like I feel like they kind of
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became, they kind of became the Santa Monica guys and then even
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worse, the father of mine guys. Like they, they became like
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everybody kind of pointed at that and that kind of became
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their lane. And it's so much more than that.
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I found, you know, doing the dive on them.
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I mean, I don't know that I ever disrespected them as much as I
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used to disrespect live, but I did at one point.
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The swim up past the Breakers bit became like a very recurring
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theme on a very recurring bit on my old podcast.
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Good morning, You drunks. And we followed it up with a a
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bit based on father of mine, where I would be Art's dad and
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he would be like my daddy gave me a name.
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Yes, it's art. It's a family name.
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Like I created a character called Everclear's dad and you
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know, like it's it's not the same vitriol.
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I don't, I don't think they ever became that, but they were
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almost because of their popularity, almost a joke.
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And the the thing that kind of goes simultaneously with all
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this is I, I used to always hear that Everclear puts on a great
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show. And so like, you know, when
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Everclear came up, I was like, yeah, let's bump that way up the
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list because I feel like it. Not that you know, I, I love
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their songs, but it's like this show gives the perfect, perfect
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opportunity to to listen to an Everclear finally, to, to listen
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to a live, to listen to a Bush. Like these bands are all kind of
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in that same lane where something happened and everybody
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kind of discarded them. So I was shocked to find out.
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And this kind of leads us into the next thing.
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I was shocked to find out that they continued making records.
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Not that not that I was shocked that they were still around, but
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they continued making records. So we did have to trim it up
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somewhere. We, I think we ended up like
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most of their new stuff is gone, Anderson.
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So like when you're looking at what we decided to bring to the
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table, when you're when you're looking to put together your 20
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for this, like what are you trying to bring to the table to
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kind of prove Everclear isn't those few songs that people
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know? Yeah, so we did cut it down.
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We cut it down to the five albums that Spotify had with the
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original band members. 2005, 2006 is when the band split up.
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Based on what happened afterwards, I'm going to say it
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was due to creative differences and the other band members
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wanted to be creative. That's my job anyway.
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So yeah, I'm just, what I'm looking at is, God, they put out
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some good music during those albums.
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And a lot of what they do really speaks to me.
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There's a lot of, like, small town backgrounds, you know,
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troubled childhoods, bad relationships.
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I mean, they don't sing about happy things.
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They're not good at that. But, you know, a lot of what
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they do sing about really speaks to me.
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So I get a lot of strong feelings about it one way or the
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other. And you're probably getting
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involved. So yeah, yeah, making the list,
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I was just, I was trying to hit all the aspects that they do.
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So Christian, you, you mentioned that you're like super happy
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with your list. Does that mean that it was easy,
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it came together easy? Or does that mean you're just
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proud of the work A. Bit of both actually.
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I think it's a it, it's strong. It's like it speaks to how much
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I like this band. I think it's a strong list, but
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also it was easy. And then like a lot of bands
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that are easy to start with, those last cuts are all the more
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difficult because of it. You're not trying to, you're not
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fill in spaces. 17/18/1920 You know, you've got 24 and you've
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got to squeeze them into 20, you know, but it's really just just
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just going back. If I may, you mentioned that
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this is in the wheelhouse of live Bush Hootie and the
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blowfish and I'm on, I'm on or have been on all of those
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panels. And I just think what I what I
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mentioned earlier around that kind of saturation of being
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linked with a, with a huge single and a, and because what I
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mentioned earlier on about these bans weren't on commercial radio
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in the UK. I've never been exposed to that
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kind of public kind of critical revulsion against these bands.
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So either that or I have a really bad taste, one of the
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two. But yeah, no, it's interesting
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what Anderson mentioned there actually, about the stuff that
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he he talked about not happy stuff and the the relationships
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and the childhood stuff. I think Alex Akis is a fantastic
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storyteller and I completely agree that they're at their best
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when he is in that kind of lane in terms of writing about real
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stuff that's happened to him and Oh my God, like doing a bit of
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background reading. He a lot of stuff has happened
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to him in his life. He's had a really, you know,
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imparts tough, tough upbringing. But I think they do sometimes
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steer into being a bit more light hearted and it I say it
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now, it doesn't suit them. It doesn't suit them.
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They are at their best when it's confessional, when it's
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attritional, cathartic, when he's writing about real life
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gritty stuff. That's when they're at their
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best. So I think that I kind of fell
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along the same lines as you guys did because in fair warning, I
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do have some of the hits, but based on the conversation so
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far, I'm, I'm not feeling bad about the a couple of the ones
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that I left out because that's very linked to saturation and
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jokes. And but we'll cross those lines
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when we get there. But I also felt like this is
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very much I want people to know of songs other than those two
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and I want them. I I, I said this in in, you
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know, at at some point last go around it sparkle and fade is
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fucking great. Like I easily could have taken
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every track from from that one. You know, I, I, I feel like I
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fall on that one, that sentence a lot, but not knowing what they
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were past the radio stuff and coming in and hearing that
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record, I'm like, Oh my God, this is going to be great.
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I can't wait to listen to this, which immediately lightens the
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load of, I can't believe I have to listen to five Everclear
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records, right? Like, not that it ever felt like
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that, but it definitely had that feeling of I'm doing Everclear
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this week. And so to be able to like
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immediately go, OK, no, they kind of rock like I'm, I'm into
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that. And then it, it makes the the as
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as it gets slightly softer. Each record makes it a little
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easier and you kind of can see how they got there.
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And you know, I, I guess I need to be fair.
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I am front loaded. I did like both American Movie
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records, but the last one that we had on there, I liked it but
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didn't I? I couldn't find, I couldn't find
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the space to make enough room for, for those songs.
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I felt like the stuff from the 1st 4 records were just just
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flat out stronger. So, you know, it's, it seems
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like we're aligned here, Anderson.
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It it feels like we're all kind of saying the same things, but
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it doesn't mean it that could be disastrous 'cause it it could
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mean there's a lot more at play. So based on everything we've
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said so far, how many do you think we get through
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unanimously? Oh, and this was going to be
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worse with Peter here, so. Fair, Yeah.
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You know, if it was four people, I was going to have a very low
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number. I'm going to circle back just
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for a second. This was the easiest 20 I've
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ever done and probably will be for everything I've signed up
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for. Just looking at them, I'm like,
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this one was almost simple to do.
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I I did a Christian style where I had 14 right off the bat and
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then I'm just picking 6. Yeah.
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There you go. Which really helped.
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Yeah. Anyway, I'm going to, I'm going
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to go right down the middle. I'm going to say 5, I think.
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I think we're going to hit 2 homers and three surprises.
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Oh, I like the surprises. I can't wait to find out what
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the surprises are, or at least what you guys consider
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surprises. All right, so 5 is off the
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table. Christian, what do you think?
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I've just noticed something really weird.
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So we've got the five albums other than the first one, and
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then we've got a couple of the compilation 10 Years Gone.
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All all 5 studio albums that we're looking at all start with
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S just a little a little bit of trivia.
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Anyway, back to the back to relevance.
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OK, so I, this is weird. I've gone full circle now
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because I came into this thinking, yeah, I felt quite
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bullish. And then I was thinking, I know
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I've left off some songs that I expected you guys to have.
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So I was thinking we might go lower.
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But based on both of your vibes that we've got so far, I'm
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thinking you, you might be more in step with what I'm thinking.
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So it's like, are you thinking what I'm thinking that you're
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thinking what I'm thinking? So I'm going to go.
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I, I was thinking about going back down to 4, but I'm not so
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sure now because I think you might have left off some of the
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obvious ones that I've left off as well.
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So I'm going to go for six. All right.
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I like that. I don't think that's, I don't
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think that's crazy talk. Here's what has me hesitant is
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I've already mentioned Sparkle and Fade feels like a record
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that each song is going to be in play here.
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And because of that, our choices could end up scattering that a
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little bit too much to kind of make, you know, to make a
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positive impact. I like, I honestly like
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Anderson's 5 the best, but because it's off the table, I'm
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going to go 4. I feel like it's, I don't think
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it's out of the question. We go above it.
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I just it, I don't feel as strongly about going above a
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four. So I'm going to grab that four.
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We're going to take a quick pause.
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And on the other side of it, we are going to play the game Jack.
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It's the programmed. And with that, the name of the
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game is deprogrammed. The three of us have come
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through about half of Everclear's discography.
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I think it worked out that way. Maybe, maybe a little less,
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maybe a little more. 5 records. That's what you need to know of
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Everclear's music. And plucked out 20 songs that
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we're now going to mash together in an attempt to create a top
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ten circuit for you. In case you have never given
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Everclear the time of day. I love doing this.
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The bands like this are the reason I I lead with these kind
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of picks. Tell me what you are from the
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jump so I don't have to like it. Completely changed how I thought
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about Everclear from the jump. I'm going to go with Electra.
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Made me blind. If you didn't pick it first, I
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would have. There you go, take that too.
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Yeah, that was the song on that free magazine CD.
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Oh nice, I love that. I wouldn't have guessed.
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I would not have guessed that that would have been the one on
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the CD. Yeah.
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No. No wonder I got into them.
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Right. What a great introduction to the
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band. Like, it doesn't sound like so
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far off from the radio hits that you probably know that you're
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like, this is Everclear. But it takes all those things
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that are in all those songs and like, amplifies them and makes
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you go, oh, fuck yeah, that's awesome.
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I'm into that. Like it immediately changed, You
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know, it immediately changed my excitement from I'm listening to
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Everclear to oh, cool. I can't wait to see what's up
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with Everclear. So I don't know, man.
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I think I think that's rather important.
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But clearly we all agreed. So boom.
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For me, it's it's it's part of a trilogy of I think there are
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three songs that are quite similar, not in a bad way, in a
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really good way. Actually, I think that kind of
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jumpy, bouncy riff. I won't see what the other two
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are, but they're but they're both on my list.
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But they the three of them kind of remind me of each other.
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And for me they are kind of what ever cleared the best.
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So, yeah, really, really pleased to pick that to stop there.
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We go it, it really is, because it's just, it's all bouncy and
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the lyrics are, you know, he just wants to pack up his shit
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and leave. Living isn't a simple thing, and
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no one says it's supposed to be. Yeah.
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So, I mean, he's still going dark, but he's doing it in such
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a happy way that nobody cares. Yeah, into it.
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All right, one down and Anderson.
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I'm going to jump forward an album and do the same thing.
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So much for the afterglow. Yes, Sir.
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Yeah, I got it. Nice, I'm.
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I nearly didn't. Oh, really?
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I, I, yeah, I sorry to jump in here.
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And so I don't know whether he wanted to say something about
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the record, but it wasn't on my list.
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It was close, but it wasn't on my list until about a week or so
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ago when Brian Wilson died. And.
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Oh, you had that Beach Boys open.
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That yeah, yeah. And it just made me think it, it
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just encapsulates what an influence The Beach Boys have
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been directly or indirectly on, I would say 90% of the music
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that that a lot of the panelists on the programmed are into.
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And I just thought it felt so poignant that I was listening to
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Afterglow with that intro when Brian Wilson passed.
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I just thought it's I've got to find room for it.
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I just love that, you know, after that intro, like because
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initially I was going to leave it off too.
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And then it just kicks in at almost a minute and it's like,
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oh, OK, that's not what this is. And then like when I came back
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around to it for my next round of cuts, I was like, Oh yeah,
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this is a shoe and this is in. So yeah, it's it's kind of kind
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of great. It's got that a really great
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energy to it too. All right, boom, 2 for two.
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No pressure, Christian. OK, I better go strong here.
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I'm not going to pick from my trilogy.
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I'll keep that for later. I'm going to go with something a
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little bit lighter. I I think this when they do
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poppy stuff, I think this is their best pop song.
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I think it's an absolute banger, Catchy, great storytelling.
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I alluded to earlier on, I don't know if it was a single, I got a
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feeling it would have been in the States, but hearts buck
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dollar sign. I love that you picked that.
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I don't have it though. Yeah, it's a fantastic song.
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It was a single. God, it's got a good message
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too. I don't have it but like it's a
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top 25. Top 30 for sure.
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That was overwhelming whelmingly.
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I don't know where it dropped off but it was absolutely on my
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first pass. I can't.
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This is what I was talking about with sparkle and fade though.
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Like I feel like if I. If I win, if I win, that's going
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in. I'm telling you now.
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Well, I was just listening, you know, as as I always do, I was
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just listening to the playlist. And when that one came on, I was
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like, I have this one right. Oh shit.
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I was kind of hoping that, you know, it would have a 2 and
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then, you know, I could be I could be the guy go, you know
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what, let's put that one in. And so like that one hurts to to
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not even be in the combo. It does.
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It does. I I limited myself to six off of
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sparkle and fade and fix off of afterglow and I just the other
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ones I felt stronger about. I'll take a risk here, even
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though it's a single for sure. I'll stay on Afterglow or I'll
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go go back to Afterglow, I should say.
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And again, when when a lot of like, the singles came up, you
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know, you kind of roll your eyes.
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And I remember when this song hit, I loved it.
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And then my friend Talbert and I saw the video and there was like
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a fisherman in it. And we were like, I call him
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Ishmael. And like, I don't know, it
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became a really stupid bit. And it's weird for it to have
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erased a song for my memory. But coming up, coming across
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that now, I was like, oh man, yeah, I really like this.
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Everything to everyone into the bin.
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That sounds OK. Yeah, it's another one I
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sacrificed. I'm I'm sorry that's it was on
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my first list and I I lost it. Sorry, I didn't.
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I didn't hear an answer, so I was waiting.
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Yeah, no, I don't. I don't have it.
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That was one that I mentioned at the start, that things I thought
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people might play that just didn't hit with me at all.
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So no, I don't have it. All right into the bin,
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Anderson. And let's see here, let's let's
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get the big dog out of the way, Santa Monica.
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I don't have it, but it has to be.
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Somebody had to play it right like somebody had to.
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Somebody has to talk about it, and if it's me, that's fine.
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Yeah. Yeah, not, no, not me.
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That was the other one. Yeah, yeah.
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But that's OK, this song is my first and only attempt at
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karaoke and it was an absolute disaster.
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This was a very drunken bad idea I had and I forgot the words
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halfway through. The first verse mostly ended up
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with me and a microphone and a very empty floor and a lot of
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blank stares. And yeah, I have never went back
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to that microphone again. So screw you.
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Everclear I. I I it, I'd say it's the most
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well known song, I think right and probably.
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It's Oh yeah, yeah. It's it's a funny one because
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it's like, I don't dislike it. It's not bad, but I equally, I
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don't get what the fuss is about.
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I mean, there's another song that is on my list that I call
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Santa Monica's Evil Twin, which I prefer.
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And I, I don't know, just that I, I don't like the chord.
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I like, obviously it has, you know, a quality about
26:51
aspirational and, and that kind of stuff and it builds, which is
26:55
always good People like a builder, But like the chords,
26:58
they're a bit, I don't know, just there's nothing not enough
27:03
happening for me that that I really sort of get into it.
27:05
It's like, say, I don't want to be negative.
27:08
I've been down that road before, but I like the song.
27:12
I but I don't I don't get how it's the most valued song.
27:18
Yeah, Nah, man, I kind of parallel thinking here for me as
27:22
well. Going in, I thought that that
27:26
song had no chance of making my list.
27:29
I was like no, no chance Bluch no, no, no, no, no.
27:33
And when I came across it, I was like, Nah, man, I I like this.
27:37
And honestly, if if Sparkle and fade wasn't so good, it probably
27:45
still could have made its way onto my list.
27:47
But ultimately I'm I'm right there with you Christian.
27:50
I like, I don't think it's a bad song.
27:52
I don't dislike it. I just don't I don't understand
27:57
how it got to be so popular or how it's like the Everclear
28:01
song. So.
28:03
Yeah, exactly. Interesting.
28:06
All right, Christian, you're up. Shall I play Santa Monica's evil
28:11
twin? Why not?
28:14
Why not? Why not?
28:15
Let's segue. So it's very similar.
28:18
It's it talks about and I sort of an idealist location.
28:26
It builds, but the chords are a little bit darker and it's I
28:32
don't know. I just find it a bit more
28:34
interesting and I if my memory serves me correctly, I think
28:38
it's right next to it on the album Summerland.
28:41
Yeah, I got it. Yeah, I got it.
28:44
Yes. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's that it's
28:50
sort of the chords are a bit more sort of minor, you know, so
28:59
and then that the bit at the end, you know, that the the
29:03
album reference, the sparkle fade, fade, just yeah, I love
29:07
it, love it. Really good song.
29:09
I will, I'll say this, this is this is an answer I got on
29:13
threads when I asked and the guy said it's like their best deep
29:20
cut. And, you know, I kind of was
29:23
like, yeah, I think I kind of have this one.
29:25
And apparently that that led to him telling me that apparently
29:28
they're playing Sparkle and Fade on this tour that they're going
29:31
on. So that's that's interesting.
29:33
That might be my selling point to go, because even though Local
29:37
Age is my second favorite band, as mentioned before, I still
29:41
wasn't sold on going to see a band.
29:44
I've heard a lot of great things about Everclear Band.
29:47
I'm very intrigued to see Sponge and my second favorite band of
29:51
all time, Local Age. The fact that they're going to
29:53
play that record might have done it for me, but to the point, I
29:58
think Summerland's just the better version of Santa Monica.
30:02
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh my God.
30:04
Right. OK so I was crushed when hotspot
30:07
dollar sign went into the trash summer land Being unanimous and
30:11
everything that you just said just makes me feel so much
30:13
better. So I'm back people there.
30:16
We go, all right, and just like that, we're at 3:00, man.
30:25
I don't really want to take another one into the bin.
30:31
I don't really want to take another one into the bin.
30:33
You know what I won't. I'm going to bring up another
30:35
one that I got answered on threads.
30:39
You know? I'm staying on afterglow though.
30:42
I'm going to go with amphetamine.
30:48
Great song. Great song.
30:49
I can't help you. I.
30:53
Yeah. I absolutely have it.
30:56
Yeah, I absolutely have it. It's a bio.
30:58
Good, good. I'll take it to there the bit.
31:03
At the the bit at the end when it slows down, Yeah, amazing.
31:07
Boom. Take the two there instead of
31:11
going back into the bin. All right, Anderson.
31:20
I'm going to stay in that same area.
31:22
The P side up so much for the afterglow is probably one of the
31:29
greatest things music has ever done for me.
31:32
I'm going to go a little bit slower and I'm going to pick
31:35
sunflowers. Oh wow, no.
31:42
No, I don't have it either. Oh wow.
31:44
I honestly not. Yeah.
31:48
That one was a choice between that and something off of
31:51
Sparkle and Fade that we make or may not see later, and I I went
31:56
with Sunflowers to balance the album.
32:00
I honestly can't even tell you like when that one fell out of
32:04
my list. So I don't, I don't know if it
32:08
was like a late cut. It's possible it was, but I
32:10
don't I. I assume it's 21.
32:15
Usually I know which which ones are 21 usually, but don't hold
32:21
me to that. All right, Christian.
32:25
OK, so we've bounced around the 1st 2:00, but the first two on
32:28
our list anyway, I'm going to go somewhere else, but similar era.
32:35
I'm going to go to one of my trilogy.
32:39
Now on the last episode that I did, it was Suicidal Tendencies
32:44
and I think I referred to You Can't Bring Me Down as a song
32:49
that I listen to what I want to get pumped up for sport, when I
32:51
want to go for a jog or if I'm playing a soccer game or
32:55
whatever. This song takes me back to
32:58
university. My I lived with a couple of guys
33:01
and we were all training for 1/2 marathon.
33:04
And we used to go into one of the guys, Alex, a good friend of
33:08
mine who now lives in Sydney, Australia.
33:12
And he used to blast this song and we would all just be
33:17
bouncing off the walls and we'd go out and we'd do a the first,
33:21
the first mile would be the fastest mile that we'd actually
33:24
done in training. It just got us massively up
33:27
there. It's when I'm just listening to
33:31
it over the last couple of weeks in prep for this.
33:32
It's as an intro to song. It is right up there.
33:37
It is fantastic local God. Yeah, I got it.
33:44
Absolutely. It's it's do you know what I
33:47
mean about the like electric? It's got that and you listen to
33:53
that. Like I said, even listen to it
33:55
now and I'm like, I want to go and fight someone.
33:57
It's just like I absolutely love that song.
34:01
It might be my favorite out ever cause.
34:03
Interesting. And that line you look so stupid
34:07
would also describe me running. And wrote, wrote it for, wrote,
34:17
wrote it for Romeo and Juliet, right.
34:19
I think obviously with the Romeo re, I think he actually wrote
34:22
because it was on the Romeo and Juliet soundtrack.
34:24
I think that's where Alex, my, my buddy had the, the, the song,
34:29
but I think he wrote it specifically for the movie.
34:32
And I'm like, that's like one of your best songs.
34:37
Yeah. Incredible, incredible tune.
34:39
I'm. Yeah.
34:40
He was surprised that it got a lot of requests live because he
34:44
thought it was just a soundtrack.
34:46
Fine. Yeah, yeah, I read that I.
34:47
Understand why people loved it. Yeah, he said.
34:50
Oh, we better learn it then. Yeah.
34:52
Yeah, and I like it so much I've actually put it on to my digital
34:57
version of How Much for the Afterglow, because there's a few
35:02
on there that I absolutely despise.
35:03
So I just did a little switch Local Gods on the album now.
35:07
Nice. I got to be honest, I I figured
35:11
that might be a two. I didn't think it was a banner,
35:14
but I did not see that one as as one that was going to be
35:19
unanimous. I'm into that.
35:21
Fired up about that. We're already at 4-2, fellas.
35:27
OK, I guess I can play one of these American movie songs.
35:40
How about? How about when it all goes wrong
35:47
again, boy? No, yeah, I don't have it.
35:57
Had a feeling. We are not being nice today, I'm
36:01
sorry and. What are you going to do?
36:03
That's only my second to the bin.
36:06
All right, Anderson. Well, what I'll do is I'll I'll
36:11
also go somewhere deep and maybe end up on an island.
36:15
Same album. How about short blonde hair?
36:20
No, I don't have that one. No, I don't have it.
36:24
I mean, at least you predicted it.
36:27
Yeah, he did predict it. All right, and.
36:32
That way we can all be alone together.
36:34
Yeah, right. Yeah, we've had a, we've had a
36:40
strong start, haven't we? I got a feeling this is where
36:43
it's going to start to get a bit more challenging, right?
36:48
Yeah. Is it me?
36:51
Yes, Sir. OK, now I'm torn between two Do
36:57
I play the third of the trilogy or no?
37:01
I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
37:03
So I started off with Hotspark Dollar Sign, which went straight
37:06
into the trash. So I'm going to do the
37:11
definition of insanity the same thing again and hope for a
37:14
different result because I think this song is kind of, I don't
37:18
know. For me, it kind of goes with
37:20
Hotspark Dollar Sign. It feels like a same kind of
37:24
vibe to it. And yeah, I love it almost as
37:30
much. It's an employed boyfriend.
37:33
Oh. Fuck no.
37:38
I don't have it. If it wasn't for the answering
37:44
machine machine portion of the saw, it would do so much better
37:48
for me. That just really took me right
37:51
out of it. Yeah, it it's part of the story
37:55
though, and that so you know, But yeah, no.
38:01
Oh, well, I told you it was insanity, didn't they?
38:03
There we go. I think, I think we're that one
38:06
we're looking at. It was for sure on my first
38:08
pass, I think we're looking at like 20-5, maybe 20-4, something
38:13
like that. Somewhere around there that it
38:15
it dropped out. Yeah, I'd say it was #5 on that
38:20
album for me, which is I love that album.
38:23
So it's still really good. All right, well, I'll stick with
38:34
American Movie. How about learning how to smile?
38:41
Yes, Sir. Oh, you've made me so happy.
38:45
Hey. Yes, I thought that was such a
38:49
deep cut, but I love that song. Hey again, that's a shocker.
38:56
Yeah, big shock for me. I was hoping to find one of you
39:00
obviously, but. Yeah, just like that.
39:05
That's why I have such great lyrics to it.
39:08
Yeah, it's it's beautiful. There's that, that bit, the I'm
39:12
just learning how to smile and you know that I love that
39:15
melody. And then the I will never let
39:17
them break your heart. This it's beautiful song.
39:20
Yeah. Love it.
39:22
And just like that, the pressure's off me and firmly on
39:26
Anderson. So we're at 5:00, all right.
39:32
Yeah, we are at five. Yeah, I think we can.
39:36
Feel like there's like at least one more out there that.
39:40
We yeah, we might be able to, we might be able to top that five.
39:44
How about normal like you? That will not be one of them
39:51
because no, I do not have that 10.
39:54
I thought that would be even as I have it.
39:56
I think it's a great song all. Right.
39:59
So that's another two. We need those as well.
40:03
We need twos because so far that's all it's been is like
40:06
this is only our second two. Yeah, it's either in or been.
40:10
All right, we'll take that two and Christian.
40:17
OK, let's go for. I'm going to go for I'm going to
40:26
go for Afterglow again and again.
40:30
I think this lighter being open, this song, I don't know why, but
40:37
it always reminds me of the Pixies.
40:40
And I don't know whether that's just me or whether that is a
40:42
thing, but I think it's getting better for the two of us white
40:49
men in black suits. Yeah, that was a hard, hard one
40:58
to cut. Yeah.
41:01
Do you know what I mean? It's that bit because and the
41:04
diminishing and the bit that goes Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding,
41:06
Ding, Ding, Ding. I don't know that bit.
41:09
Oh, yeah. To me, yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:13
I love, I love that song. And it's a little bit, it's a
41:15
little bit different. It's a little bit understated.
41:21
And again, just that quite emotive, like similar to
41:23
learning how to smile. Those really like emotional,
41:25
emotive lines. Like I think it's getting better
41:28
for the two of us. I really like that sentiment
41:31
because I think we've all been in that position where you have
41:34
like a crap year or you have a crap six months and then you
41:37
feel like things are turning around.
41:41
I just, I just love that line. I think it's getting better for
41:44
the Two Rivers. But but you know, just put it in
41:48
the trash. That's fine.
41:52
Boy, that ain't. That I said in the chat that my
41:55
wife brought me from 22 down to 20 so I'm throwing her under the
42:00
buses. Once fault, it was one of the
42:04
two she didn't pick. Wow, wow.
42:08
All right, I think it's time for me to get back to my sparkle and
42:13
fade picks and just take the Band-Aid off and find out.
42:19
I feel like this one has the best chance, so I'm going to go
42:22
with this. How about heroin, girl?
42:28
Wow, really? I don't have that one either.
42:31
Wow. You get it.
42:33
It's amazing. All right, we'll take that too.
42:36
The the opening is is amazing and then the the the ref with
42:43
the stops and the apeggios. Do you know like so I'm doing
42:51
lots of singing tonight. Apologies, audience it the the
42:57
the stops near page. I I love it.
42:58
I think it's absolutely. And as a as a second track after
43:03
Electra on the album, it just like, whoa, this is a strong
43:07
start, you know? What a great one to punch.
43:10
Yeah, absolutely. I also I got that answer a lot
43:14
when I asked. I'd already finished my list by
43:17
the time I asked, so it didn't affect my list.
43:19
It is also their number one song on Spotify, which is says
43:24
something to me, right. It's not the any of the ones you
43:28
would think it would be. And it just rocks, man.
43:31
Like it's again electric already changed my mind.
43:35
I was completely open for the rest of it, but heroin girl kind
43:39
of like elevated me to another place out.
43:41
I was like, yes, OK, like this it it made sparkle and fade such
43:47
a hard record to for me to cut from.
43:49
So, all right, we'll take that too, though, Anderson.
44:00
I'm going to stay on Sparkle 2 and I'm going to go with
44:05
Chemical Smile. That one really blew.
44:08
Dang it, no. No, I don't have it either.
44:14
Yeah, you got that line in there where she says Jesus owes her
44:17
money. She says the angels are her
44:20
friends. What the hell does that mean?
44:22
I really love that. Yeah, it's, it's great, but it
44:26
just speaks to, you know, I said I love, I love the list.
44:30
Just speaks to the quality of, you know, the it's, it's great,
44:34
but didn't make it. Just didn't have enough room.
44:39
All right, Christian. OK, I'm going to speak in threes
44:43
now because you talked about a 1-2 punch.
44:46
What about a 123 punch? And what about the third song in
44:50
the trilogy that I mentioned of bouncy riffs?
44:54
You make me feel like a whore. Fuck me, I think that I.
44:59
That is the single I did take. When you talk about, I don't
45:06
have it. When you talk about 21, I'm
45:11
fairly certain that was the last one to go.
45:14
And I'm not gonna lie. When you're looking, when you're
45:17
that close, you're looking for trivial things to make the last
45:20
cut. I was a guy, he says.
45:21
The word whore. It was really, it's stupid, but
45:26
it was really that simple. So you're looking for whatever
45:30
reason. Yeah, I mean, do you see what I
45:35
mean? Elektra made me blind.
45:36
You make me feel like a whore. And local God, they've all got
45:40
that kind of they, they're all very rift driven.
45:43
Yeah. That's, that's how I that,
45:45
that's how I think of them in my weird, strange, warped mind.
45:49
And I, I put those, I put those 3 songs together because they
45:52
all feel very, they're all very different and they're all great
45:55
in their own way, but they feel of a similar ilk and I love them
45:59
all so. Yeah, alright.
46:04
Does that take me back around to me?
46:08
Yeah. All right, I keep, I keep
46:17
scrolling past this one, so let's, let's throw it out there
46:20
and find out. How about hating you for
46:22
Christmas? Another Binner.
46:29
So I had just said that my wife took me from 22 to 20.
46:36
That's the one. Yeah, I don't.
46:41
Have so I do Gotcha. Hey, all right.
46:45
I don't have it. I said, I think I said at the
46:47
beginning that sometimes they stray into kind of a bit like it
46:55
just, I don't know, it felt like to gimmicky for me.
47:01
It's not a bad song. It's not a bad song, but I
47:03
prefer when they're like, I prefer the autobiographical
47:08
dark, you know, that kind of stuff.
47:10
So it didn't really fit that for me.
47:12
I mean, I imagine we've got at least a few more twos and
47:15
possibly another 3 here. I mean, as it is right now,
47:19
because it's a 2. Unfortunate.
47:20
Well, no, because Anderson has a final say so.
47:24
All right, Anderson, where you want to go?
47:30
I'm going to go nobody's touched slow motion Daydream, so living
47:35
gold up there and I'm going to hit the single Volvo driving
47:39
soccer mom. I actually got that.
47:42
I don't have it on my list, but I actually got that as an answer
47:46
when I asked. I was very shocked.
47:51
Yeah, let's think if if I thought that hating you for
47:54
Christmas was too gimmicky then. You're not going for.
47:59
This I'm not going for Volvo driving soccer mom now, right?
48:03
OK, before the show I said to Justin that I might mention
48:07
Fountains Of Wayne today, so excuse me if I jump on a
48:10
Fountains Of Wayne soapbox for 30 seconds.
48:12
When I did the Fountains Of Wayne episode last year when I
48:15
listened to it back that. Now bear in mind that's a band
48:18
that I absolutely love. When I listened to it back, I
48:21
hated myself on it because I came across as just not liking
48:25
Adam Scherzinger's music. It was more around that I
48:28
particularly liked songs that Chris Collingwood had apparently
48:31
written based on an Internet thing that I found.
48:33
They share writing credits, so I didn't know for sure.
48:36
But when I listened to it back, it sounded like I I just want to
48:43
put the record straight. And why am I mentioning Phones
48:45
Away? Because this has got Stacey's
48:47
mom vibes for me Driving soccer mom.
48:51
And it's it's ever clear jumping into the kind of the sort of the
48:58
humour, the half jokey kind of gimmicky kind of thing.
49:03
And I just don't like it. So just to put the record
49:06
straight, I love Fountains Of Wayne.
49:08
I love both Chris Collingwood and Adam Chesliger's music and I
49:13
hate myself on that episode and case closed off soapbox
49:18
catharsis. I've had my peace with it
49:20
because it bothers me. But sorry for that interlude
49:25
there. But it was my opportunity.
49:28
But yeah, no, it that song reminds me of it is the same.
49:32
It feels like if, if you'd only heard this song from Everclear,
49:37
you, you know, like people who would only heard Stacey's mum
49:40
buy fans away. And it's like, no, no, you don't
49:42
know the band. Do you know what I mean?
49:43
They're not they're not one of those early 2000 kind of, you
49:48
know, humorous. Well, that was kind of who I had
49:54
in my head, which is which is fine.
49:57
If you like that sort of thing, that's fine.
49:59
But that's not who they are, is it?
50:01
And it's not who fountains away now.
50:03
It's not whoever clearer are. And this just kind of had the
50:07
advice for me. So I'm sorry Anderson, this was
50:09
going nowhere near my list. I, you know, I mentioned.
50:15
As long as I know you don't feel very strongly.
50:20
You know, that, that record's rough for me 'cause I enjoyed
50:22
it, you know, it, it kind of gave me the same feeling as as
50:26
Santa Monica where it's like, I like it.
50:28
I, I like the record, but it, you know, I'm weighing it up
50:32
against all these other songs and it just felt like there's so
50:34
many things where it's like, you know, I could take one of these.
50:40
Songs, and I mean. Or I could take a 5th, 5th or
50:43
6th song from Sparkle and Fade. You know, like so that's the
50:47
kind. Of where I, you know, it's,
50:48
it's, it's, it's not what I like about Everclear, but you know
50:51
what the reason I like Everclear is those lyrics that whether
50:55
it's the, the kind of the emotional lyrics or whether it's
50:57
the hard hitting lyrics like when they when they veer off and
51:00
that that's fine, you know, no issues that when they veer off.
51:04
It's just that doesn't hit me as as as anywhere near as as much
51:07
as you know, a lot of their other stuff all.
51:11
Right, Christian, where you want to go?
51:14
Well, after that rant, I completely don't know.
51:22
OK, right, I'm going to go back to sparkle and fade, but it
51:28
least feels like I've got a chance of hitting.
51:32
This might be a bit of a deep cut again, it's a bit of a risky
51:34
one in or bin. I think it's got a really nice
51:41
combination of melody and kind of angst and darkness.
51:47
And I think if we are based on what I just said about follow
51:50
the driving soccer bum, if this kind of does kind of back that
51:54
up really, because it's a really dark sounds like
51:58
autobiographical song, Queen of the Air.
52:02
Yeah, I got it. You do not.
52:07
I'll take that. That's cool.
52:08
That's something yeah. If it hits hits with somebody,
52:12
yeah. And I quite like the singing
52:13
style in it. He he, he gets into this singing
52:15
style some the, the, the kind of the, the shouty singy,
52:20
especially as it do you know what I mean?
52:21
As it gets towards the end of the song and it like, it gets a
52:24
bit more emotional. What it, what it kind of
52:26
reminded me of was do you guys remember a, a band from like the
52:31
grunge era, but I don't know if they weren't Seattle or
52:33
anything, but they were a band called Paul.
52:35
Do you remember them? Uh.
52:39
No first. Oh, angry Johnny.
52:42
They're they're a song called Jessie, Jessie, you're a good
52:46
dog. But the singer had this kind of
52:49
shout, shouty singing kind of growl, singing style and art
52:55
kind of gets into that here. But it really works because it's
52:59
a really raw kind of emotion. It's as bad as I think I
53:03
couldn't work out this his grandmother or his aunt, like
53:05
committing suicide and because it's now about Aunt Virginia.
53:13
But my grandma jumped off the bridge that day or something
53:17
like that. I mean, I don't know.
53:20
I don't know, but he might. It might not even be, but it
53:22
might be just a just just a song, whatever.
53:25
But the the kind of angst throughout the song builds and
53:28
he gets into that kind of half shouting, half singing voice.
53:32
And it really works for a song like this because it all, it is
53:35
all about that raw emotion and that kind of pent up that, you
53:39
know, he he was told later on who that person that jumped off
53:44
the bridge was and that kind of stuff.
53:45
It's yeah, you know, it's not an easy listen, but it's a, you
53:50
know, it's a but it it, it's matched with that sort of which
53:56
is quite a nice little pretty riff.
53:58
So yeah, I think it's a great song there.
54:00
You go, we'll take the two there.
54:03
It gives us some wiggle room on on our back half of the list.
54:09
I'm going to go to title track. I went with the second version
54:12
of it. How about a song from an
54:13
American movie? No, I didn't take either one of
54:21
them. Yeah, I got that one because
54:25
yeah, I agree. It's it's, it's, it's the better
54:27
version, and it bookends the double album really nicely.
54:32
That's exactly why I grabbed it, because I was like, oh man, like
54:36
I liked the first one. I was like, oh that's cool,
54:39
that's neat. And then when it gets to the
54:41
second other, oh, it's a song. Yeah, and it and the second one
54:46
feels like it. It has more of an epic quality
54:49
and it feels like it's closing a chapter, but that kind of yeah,
54:54
100%. Boom.
54:56
All right, I'll take that too. I like it.
54:59
All right, Anderson. Oh, I'm trying to figure out how
55:04
to get away from this 5 Now let's go to actually, we're
55:14
gonna we're gonna go with now that it's over.
55:19
Yeah, I got it. I love that song.
55:23
Late cut though. We'll.
55:27
Take another two. We'll take another two.
55:30
That's all right, Christian. OK, I'm going to go something
55:36
completely different, and it's completely different for them,
55:42
but I think it's great. Get your banjos out, people.
55:47
Why I don't believe in God? How?
55:49
Beautiful. No, I don't have that.
55:53
And that was the other of the three that I was having my wife
55:57
pick the team. So I'm sorry, Christian, she
56:03
decided to still get me. It's it's, it's
56:08
autobiographical. It's, it's such a departure
56:11
musically with the with the banjo.
56:13
It's like a sorbie in the album. Clears the palette, but really
56:19
good. Really good, really catchy,
56:20
really good banjo. I think at this point I'm down
56:26
low enough that we can kind of do one last round.
56:31
Yeah, I think I only got like 5 left.
56:41
How about Halloween Americana? I know that sound.
56:52
I'm sorry you picked an instrumental, I'm confused.
56:57
It happened. Yeah, me too.
57:00
It happens occasionally. It's a good one, yeah.
57:06
I'll take good one and I like it.
57:08
I just didn't have a chance in hell.
57:11
Well, you never know. You never know.
57:15
All right, Anderson. OK, that was big.
57:24
Let's see here. I think it was on songs number
57:26
one last time. I'll stay there.
57:27
Here we go again. No.
57:32
No, not for me. I didn't think he'd have it a
57:37
little too happy for Christian. Yeah, absolutely.
57:42
Nothing wrong with that by the way, this is these guys are
57:45
known for dark. I was just trying to bring both
57:47
sides. Yeah.
57:49
It's fine. I I, I really, it surprised me
57:52
actually. I really like songs from Part 1,
57:56
but I don't have that much from it weirdly.
57:58
But they're all kind of, they're all in my kind of next sort of
58:02
tier down really. So yeah, bit of a weird one.
58:06
Interesting. All right, Christian.
58:09
God, right. OK, so I've got a big one on my
58:12
I've got 5 left too. I've got a big one on my list,
58:15
but I'm not sure it's going to hit, so let me leave it on
58:22
there. And that could be in the dump
58:24
off case. So I'm gonna go.
58:30
I said earlier on that they they've got a poppy side and
58:34
I've not played anything from slow motion myself yet.
58:36
So I'll go with a really nice poppy, catchy song from Slow
58:40
Motion Daydream, The New York Times.
58:42
Oh. No, I do not have that one.
58:45
I don't have it. That's no problem.
58:50
Alright, so that said, let me shuffle this up and then I'll
58:56
get back up to the top here for mine.
59:02
All right, starting with Sparkle and Fade, her brand new skin.
59:08
Nope. Nope.
59:10
OK, this one, I was playing the game, kind of.
59:18
I do like it, and that's why it still ended up making my list.
59:23
But it if I had to guess, technically, this one would have
59:27
been 20th on my list. I will buy you a new life.
59:35
Yeah. Absolutely not.
59:40
I hate that song so hard. Oh, I'm glad not.
59:44
Not for me either. I'm not keen on that either.
59:47
Like I said, I was, yeah, I was kind of playing the game on it.
59:52
Yeah, when I put local God on, so much for the afterglow.
59:55
That's what I took off. I wasn't sure where that one
1:00:02
kind of stands in the overarch. All right, I've got Rockstar.
1:00:10
No. Nope.
1:00:12
All right, let's see, we already did that one slow motion
1:00:16
Daydream. How about new Blue champion?
1:00:24
No, Nope. All right.
1:00:27
And then the new disease. Yes, I have that one.
1:00:34
Yeah. All right.
1:00:36
No, I don't have that. All right, and last but not
1:00:38
least, sex with a movie star. And.
1:00:46
No. No, you've, you've won,
1:00:49
Anderson. That's not how that game is
1:00:54
supposed to work at all. Take another, another banner
1:00:59
there as All right, all right, Anderson.
1:01:04
Oh, it should be noted that that leaves us at 5 S Anderson's
1:01:07
going to have our final say so. All right.
1:01:12
And I think I got I got 3 left. We'll see if I hit Christian on
1:01:16
any of these and I doubt it, but strawberry Nope.
1:01:24
And California King. Nope.
1:01:29
That's the one I took instead of those ones that you took that
1:01:33
were very good songs and finally one hit wonder.
1:01:38
No one. Oh, wait.
1:01:40
Not quite. Finally, also out of my depth.
1:01:44
Oh, that was close, but no all. Right out of my depth.
1:01:50
All right, and just for fun, Christian.
1:01:54
OK, so nobody played Father of mine.
1:01:57
No. I also took that off the album.
1:02:04
Wow. OK, All right.
1:02:05
It really surprises me again. This is the this is the thing we
1:02:08
talked about, right? This is this is a saturation
1:02:11
thing or became a bit of a meme or whatever before memes or a
1:02:15
thing. Yeah, not freshly it it, you
1:02:20
know, it wasn't it. It was just a song on an
1:02:22
Everclear album that if you were into alternative music and he
1:02:26
liked Everclear, that you liked. And it's a good song and it's
1:02:28
it's art, it's autobiographical, it's storytelling.
1:02:32
And I saw an interview with him on an Australian show.
1:02:36
I think when he said that that's the one that people tell him is
1:02:40
that is the most helpful song. But then, yeah, apparently.
1:02:45
Well, so yeah, there we go. OK then my others are my sexual
1:02:53
life. I think that's a great closer to
1:02:57
Sparkle and Fade. Science fiction off Slow motion
1:03:02
Daydream, quite like that. And then there was one song we
1:03:06
didn't have, World of Noise because it wasn't on Spotify,
1:03:09
but I didn't. I only realized this a couple of
1:03:11
days ago, and I kind of quite liked it when I'd heard it.
1:03:14
Fire Maple Song. Oh, there.
1:03:16
You go. Oh man, that song was my
1:03:19
introduction to Internet gatekeeping, so I wasn't going
1:03:22
to use that either. There you go.
1:03:27
Very interesting the way this played out, like we got plenty
1:03:31
of twos and threes, but the way they kind of came in, like the
1:03:35
twos didn't kind of really hit until the end of our lists.
1:03:39
It's like we're very much in and been for a good while.
1:03:42
So let's see the five that are in come on, Electro made me
1:03:48
blind. So much for the afterglow.
1:03:49
Summerland local God learning how to smile.
1:03:52
Not a single Santa Monica insight.
1:03:54
Interesting. All right, so let's look at
1:03:56
these twos here, 123456789 that we need to trim 24 and then
1:04:07
Anderson will get his final say. So we've got amphetamine.
1:04:13
Amphetamine normal like you. Heroin, girl, you make me feel
1:04:17
like a whore hating you for Christmas.
1:04:20
Queen of the Air song from an American movie.
1:04:23
Now that it's over and the new disease.
1:04:28
All right. Was was Christmas A2?
1:04:30
I had that as a one. Anderson, that's a two.
1:04:33
I have that one. Sorry, I missed that one.
1:04:36
Yeah, OK. All right, so I almost feel
1:04:42
like, do we do we immediately just take Christmas off based on
1:04:52
I mean, I'm looking at this list and that's the first one I'm
1:04:56
looking at to drop before even taking in into Christian's
1:05:00
account of like the hokiness of it.
1:05:03
I'm thinking it literally is just probably the weakest of the
1:05:06
songs we have left. I don't know if you agree with
1:05:09
me there, Anderson. I think there's a reason why
1:05:13
it's a hidden track. There you go.
1:05:16
All right, so we'll we'll drop that.
1:05:18
That'll make this a little bit easier.
1:05:20
All right, so I'm going to ask you first, Christian, is there
1:05:22
one that you really kind of want to go to bat for here to to get
1:05:26
through? There's a few actually, but I
1:05:35
think so we've got You Make Me Feel Like a Whore, which would
1:05:41
send all three of my trilogy through.
1:05:44
But I do think looking at the list of being objective about
1:05:47
it, I think harrowing girl it is for me has to be on there all.
1:05:52
Right. Was there a strong reason,
1:05:54
Anderson, or is this just you just didn't have it?
1:05:59
I just knocked me over with a feather.
1:06:02
We can push that one through all right.
1:06:05
Curtis, we miss you would love to have you back on love old
1:06:09
Curtis for for introducing that it'd be a.
1:06:11
Fun one to do a panel with. Yeah, All right, Heron girl gets
1:06:16
through. All right, So same question to
1:06:18
you, Anderson. Is there one kind of sitting
1:06:20
there that you're like, man, that should have gotten through,
1:06:22
or a song that you feel like we kind of need at this point?
1:06:30
I'm going to go to bed for now that it's over because that is
1:06:32
like they're quintessential broken up and pissed off about
1:06:37
it song. I like it.
1:06:39
Is there a particular reason you didn't have it?
1:06:41
Christian or. No, not at all like that.
1:06:45
I mentioned that Part 1 that I like the album, but a lot of
1:06:51
them just hit that kind of middling ground and didn't get
1:06:53
into the top 20 with that. That's an example of that.
1:06:55
I like the song so all. Right.
1:06:57
No. No, no issues.
1:07:00
All right, so we got here 2 from American Movie, right?
1:07:11
Let's see. We look at the real breakdown
1:07:14
here. One, only one from Afterglow, 3
1:07:20
for Sparkle and Fade, 2 from American Movie, and then one
1:07:24
from Romeo and Juliet. They're really only at 7:00, so
1:07:29
we have two more here. All right, So we definitely need
1:07:33
to get some another one from Afterglow.
1:07:35
What do we got here? Amphetamine and normal like you?
1:07:41
Yeah. I mean, I was odd man out on
1:07:45
normal like you. Anderson was odd man out on
1:07:49
amphetamine. I don't have.
1:07:52
I don't have a reason. I wish I had a reason to say
1:07:55
like This is why I didn't have normal like you, but to me that
1:07:59
feel that feels like coin flip territory.
1:08:02
It could be either or. OK, I have a reason.
1:08:05
OK. For me it was between chemical
1:08:09
smile on sparkling fade and amphetamine on afterglow and I
1:08:14
just went the other way so I would have no problem putting
1:08:18
amphetamine through all. Right, let's grab.
1:08:22
Now they both gave me a similar vibe and I just chemical smile
1:08:26
had the funny words. There you go.
1:08:30
All right, so amphetamine will take us up to 8.
1:08:36
All right, Christian, let's get another one in here.
1:08:42
I don't know, like I'm trying. I feel like we have a good
1:08:44
representation of everything now.
1:08:46
Yeah. 2, two, and three. Nothing from Slow Motion
1:08:50
Daydream even made it to this part of the conversation, so you
1:08:53
don't have to take that into account.
1:08:55
Is there another one kind of sitting there that you kind of
1:08:57
feel like at this point we should grab?
1:09:06
Well, just coming back around, I think if you were going to come
1:09:10
to me to pick between amphetamine and normal like you,
1:09:12
I just wouldn't have been able to do it because I think they're
1:09:14
both really strong. So normal like you is on the
1:09:17
shortlist for me. You make me feel like a whore.
1:09:19
I've mentioned already and the other one that just for a bit of
1:09:28
time to look, I'm trying to think of like musical style now,
1:09:34
just trying to see what we've got.
1:09:35
We've got a decent mixture. We've got some rockers and some
1:09:41
slower ones. You've got learning how to smile
1:09:42
now that it's over. Queen of the Air.
1:09:45
I I do kind of, I do like, I just like the emotion behind it,
1:09:48
but I don't know. I think the two that I'm looking
1:09:52
at probably normal like you and you make me feel like a whore.
1:09:57
Those are the 2 for me. I'm not so fussed on the new
1:09:59
disease or Christmas American movie.
1:10:04
As I mentioned, this has got an anthemic quality and it could
1:10:09
represent that era sort of, and is and is the closest to Slow
1:10:17
Motion Daydream being the closing track of the previous
1:10:20
album. So there's arguments you can
1:10:21
make for any of them really. I'm going to be honest, I was
1:10:28
kind of eyeballing American movie just because you mentioned
1:10:34
it's it's kind of like a chapter closing.
1:10:36
Like it it it's like it's a bookend it.
1:10:41
It feel I don't it feels nice to have.
1:10:44
It would feel nice to have something bookendy here on the
1:10:48
list. I don't know.
1:10:52
I mean, I don't know if it's the strongest song, but you know,
1:10:55
it's, it's the one that I have a reason, a reason I can vocalize
1:10:59
it. Would have to be #10 on the list
1:11:03
though, right? Yeah, yeah.
1:11:07
So we got to put someone else in first.
1:11:10
Yeah, there has to be a number 10 and I get to pick it.
1:11:13
That's right. Oh, yeah.
1:11:15
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Of course I I was when you said
1:11:18
nine, I was like, No 10, surely. But no, of course.
1:11:21
Oh my gosh, you've only got 1 left, right?
1:11:25
So I mean, if that takes American Movie off the table,
1:11:29
I'm also OK with that. It's just like I said, that's
1:11:32
the one I can vocalize. Like why I why I could see
1:11:37
putting it on. OK, let me let me reverse my
1:11:40
argument then let's let's take out you make me feel like a
1:11:43
whore because we already have a lecture made me blind and local
1:11:47
God who which represent the 2/3 of my bouncy rift trilogy.
1:11:52
So I think we don't need that because it it's just saturation.
1:11:58
I do think normal like he was a great song that always stands
1:12:02
out to me when I listen to the album.
1:12:06
So it's between that the American movie for me.
1:12:08
But if you want that anthemic epic closer, I I don't I don't
1:12:13
have an issue with that. I also feel like I I feel like
1:12:21
this like the father of mines, the I will buy you a new life
1:12:25
are like failed attempts at being anthemic.
1:12:30
Like I not in the same way, but like but like if, if I don't
1:12:36
know man like it, I don't know. I'm so happy neither one of them
1:12:42
are on the left. Yeah, I don't know, man.
1:12:48
Like I guess the question is, do we just do we just take Best
1:12:52
Song available and just do normal like you and and call it
1:12:58
a day and see where Anderson wants to go.
1:13:07
Yeah, with five left, I mean, I was looking at song Part 2 is
1:13:13
probably the easiest one to lose.
1:13:16
I do like, I like new disease. It's it's the only thing they
1:13:23
have on here that's newer than the third album.
1:13:26
Really. So like kind of, you know, if
1:13:33
we're looking at giving thoughts Part 2 and slow motion Daydream,
1:13:37
the short Dick, you know, that feels like a little bit of a
1:13:41
peace offering to him, but best available is still going to be
1:13:46
you make me feel like a whore, normal like you, right well.
1:13:48
What we've got from. Queen of the Air is really good
1:13:54
too, because I'm helpful. Let's see, learning how to
1:13:58
smile. And now that it's over from that
1:14:00
record already, I, I guess that's the question, do we want
1:14:08
something post first two records?
1:14:10
Christian as #9. Yeah, it's it's as you've, it's
1:14:20
as you've said, it's it's it's potato.
1:14:23
Potato. Really.
1:14:24
It's weird. What do I think is the best, is
1:14:26
the Best Song on the list? Left on the discussion list.
1:14:30
Left is normal like you, but what feels bookendy and anthemic
1:14:37
is song all. Right.
1:14:40
So if we could go in one or two directions, I there's.
1:14:45
All right, I'm going to go with song Part 2 because we know for
1:14:50
a fact Anderson is not going to pick that because he's said as
1:14:54
much. So I feel like normal, like you
1:14:59
still has a chance to get in as his pick.
1:15:04
Now again, Anderson, this last pick, you do not have to pick
1:15:07
one of the twos that is alive. I prefer that.
1:15:11
But you absolutely do not. You can.
1:15:12
You can pick one that, you know, hit the bin, that you just want
1:15:16
to save from the bin. The rules are technically, well,
1:15:20
really the only rule is it has to be an Everclear song.
1:15:23
Yeah. I'll school both are the wrong
1:15:27
rules. Just yeah, don't pick better
1:15:31
than ASRA. Yeah, right.
1:15:34
That's inappropriate, Sir, you know, And I want to be.
1:15:45
So I like short blonde hair. I know I was on an island there,
1:15:49
but I like the theme of that song where it's just like, OK, I
1:15:55
was a successful musician and now I'm not.
1:15:57
What do I do out of my depth? Feels like all of us being
1:16:04
adults. California King that has that
1:16:10
same Queen of the Air vibe. I'm surprised nobody mentioned
1:16:16
Pale Green Stars. That was a really good song too.
1:16:25
Yeah, that's just mean now. You know why I don't?
1:16:28
Want to you know, and I didn't want it either.
1:16:33
I thought 5 would be safe. Yeah, I was expecting either 3
1:16:37
or 7. Yeah.
1:16:40
For me it's it's going to be between new disease and normal
1:16:44
like you. And I think I'm going to stay on
1:16:45
Afterblow because that's such a good album There you go.
1:16:48
Except for two seconds. So yeah, let's like, we're going
1:16:51
to like you and. Like it.
1:16:53
Let's take that as our final say, and then I'll run this down
1:16:57
one last go and then we'll crank up the heat.
1:17:01
I'm mighty proud of this list, considering the most popular
1:17:07
song we really have is Heroin Girl.
1:17:10
Like that's pretty. Impressive.
1:17:13
That's pretty impressive. All right, here we go.
1:17:15
Electra made me blind. So much for the afterglow.
1:17:17
Summerland local God learning how to smile.
1:17:20
Heroin girl. Now that it's over amphetamine
1:17:22
song from an American movie and Normal like You rounds out our
1:17:26
10. Now, Anderson, of those 10, of
1:17:31
those 10, which one is the one? Oh, thank you all for not having
1:17:40
Santa Monica on here, first of all, because, you know.
1:17:46
And it's not as big of a deal now.
1:17:50
When it was just Sponge I was terrified that Fredo was going
1:17:53
to beat on me, but you can't beat on both haha.
1:17:59
So OK so I'm looking at I think 2 songs here.
1:18:13
Learning how to smile seems the most ever clear.
1:18:21
That just seems to have all the dark and sad stuff all wrapped
1:18:25
into one but with a little bit of hope mixed in.
1:18:28
And the other one I'm looking at is Electromagy Fly.
1:18:33
I hear that. And I know they're very similar.
1:18:37
Yeah, What do you think, Christian?
1:18:42
As much as I love learning how to smile, I don't think it's I
1:18:47
disagree. I don't think it's
1:18:49
representative. I think it's a bit of a depart.
1:18:51
I think it's very much it fits on songs from an American Movie
1:18:55
Part 1. I love, I love the song.
1:18:57
I mentioned that earlier on, but speaking about Electro Baby by
1:19:01
nobody's mentioned yet, Greg Eckland's favorite drum film
1:19:07
Which Pop, which pops up on about 37 songs.
1:19:12
It's the last, it's the last bar.
1:19:14
It's the on the last bar, last bar of the four.
1:19:22
It's it makes its debut on Electro.
1:19:24
Well, I don't know about World of Noise.
1:19:25
I don't know the record, but it's but it actually drives
1:19:28
Electro Baby blind. It's it fits really well with
1:19:31
the riff. But then he does break it out,
1:19:33
like I said on loads of other songs.
1:19:36
But yeah, that was a that was that was a thing that I kept.
1:19:39
It was like a bingo card. As I was listening to the
1:19:41
discography, I was like, oh, there's another one.
1:19:47
Anyway, I mentioned motifs I think in the Suicide Tendencies
1:19:53
episode last time and that's a real motif.
1:19:55
Anyway. Departure, yeah, I'd be happy
1:19:58
with Electro, maybe blind or just the the intro and the
1:20:05
energy. Local God, I think is is
1:20:09
fantastic. It's between those two for me, I
1:20:13
think. Electro or Local God?
1:20:17
I. I would be OK with that one too.
1:20:20
I feel like, I feel like I got to make this electric unanimous
1:20:24
because that's where I was looking.
1:20:26
I, it completely changed the course of how I was going to
1:20:31
listen to Everclear. You know, like, again, was I
1:20:35
bombed at the beginning? No, but like, I, I wasn't
1:20:38
excited that we were going to do Everclear.
1:20:41
If I'm being frank, you know, I wasn't excited about doing it.
1:20:45
And then Electra starts and I'm like, oh, OK, something.
1:20:49
This is not just Santa Monica. And like I said before, it
1:20:53
sounds like Everclear. It's not like this complete
1:20:56
departure where we're kind of throwing you off the scent.
1:20:58
It's like, no, all the elements of an Everclear song are there.
1:21:02
And it just isn't Santa Monica. It isn't Father of Mine.
1:21:06
It isn't, you know, all these other songs that that we kind of
1:21:09
threw at the wayside. I it, it changed, it changed me
1:21:16
going kind of OK, I'm going to listen to Everclear today to Oh
1:21:20
man, cool. I'm, I'm listening to Everclear.
1:21:23
I can't wait to see where this goes.
1:21:24
So I, you know, that to me says a lot about a song.
1:21:31
And I mean, if I'm being also completely 100 depending on who
1:21:37
is on that panel, I don't think it's as much of a chance anyway.
1:21:40
So no matter what we pick. So I mean, might as well put
1:21:47
best. This is just avoiding the
1:21:48
Beatle, Yeah, I'm not looking for a top 10 here.
1:21:52
Yeah, this I, I think this is like a it's a great, it's a
1:21:56
great song. It's you know, I think, I think
1:21:59
it's the one. So we all had it on on our list.
1:22:02
So I'm going to go with that and make it unanimous.
1:22:06
Electra made and mean blind is our number one.
1:22:08
Let me run this down. One last go.
1:22:10
So much for the afterglow. Summerland local God learning
1:22:13
how to smile. Heroin girl now that it's over
1:22:15
Amphetamine song from American movie Normal like you.
1:22:17
Not a radio hit in the sight. Interesting.
1:22:21
Let's let Electra made me blind get a moment in the sun.
1:22:32
There we go. We have done it.
1:22:34
You know, I mean, we really did the work here, folks.
1:22:37
We really, we really got to the nitty gritty of it.
1:22:40
We did not, we did not give you Father of Mine.
1:22:44
We did not give you Santa Monica.
1:22:46
We did not give you everything to everyone.
1:22:49
Although of the radio songs, I think that's the best one,
1:22:52
Everything to everyone. But there we go.
1:22:55
We have turned you on to Everclear hopefully, or at least
1:22:59
lightened what you thought of them up a little bit.
1:23:01
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1:23:05
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1:23:09
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