Latest / World Ablaze with George Fontes / My Guest Spot on The Weather'd Report - Iran, China, Midterms, and More
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- 0:00and it is pre-recorded because i'm sitting here with george fontz and we are recording this in
- 0:20the morning this is part of the uh weather report that i've been wanting to do for a long time ken's
- 0:25on hiatus. We decided the last show that we were going to take some time off and when we can get a
- 0:32show in, we can get a show in. And so I wanted to do some coffee chats and my first coffee chat is
- 0:39going to be with our guest, George Fons of the World of Blaze with George Fons. Good morning,
- 0:43George. I'm here with my coffee too. Coffee. I'll just prove to you that we're having coffee this
- 0:47morning. America's coffee. Who knows what's in it? It's not Calacum Craft, is it? It is Calacum
- 0:54Crockm Crockm Coffee. That is directly correct.
- 0:56That is Crockm Crockm Coffee, which is our
- 0:58proud sponsor of the
- 0:59weather report. We want to thank Bill
- 1:02and Dana for actually
- 1:04sponsoring my show.
- 1:07But I love it.
- 1:09But
- 1:09George Fon says, if you haven't seen
- 1:12George before, is, man, let me tell
- 1:14you something, George. I'm gonna
- 1:15rub you here.
- 1:17You have got the
- 1:18one of the greatest shows I've ever heard,
- 1:22man. You were just so first and
- 1:24so many different things and you're right on cue with a lot of stuff that's going on in the world
- 1:29right now. You get some phenomenal guests on. And I'm telling you what, the last five episodes that
- 1:35you've done that I've watched lately has just been knocking it out of the park, man. And you're
- 1:42really in tune with what's going on. And that's why I wanted to have you back on because, man,
- 1:46I've got to talk to you. It bugs me in the morning when I'm doing my morning show, the
- 1:52the Road Rage 101.
- 1:55And then you come on and it's just like,
- 1:56oh, jeez, I want to mute it.
- 1:58I just want to talk to George for a while.
- 2:01Yeah, I love your morning show.
- 2:04I come on when I can,
- 2:06but I never want to be the guy
- 2:08who feels like I'm stepping on people's toes
- 2:11because everybody there is a great personality.
- 2:13I'll have really good things to contribute.
- 2:17So no, the show's great.
- 2:19What you do in the morning,
- 2:20that Road Rage 101 is pretty fun.
- 2:21it's a good drive to work.
- 2:23Problem is, sometimes I'm already involved in things,
- 2:25so it's like I can't contribute.
- 2:28Or the last time you called me out,
- 2:30I'm like, oh, I don't have my earbuds.
- 2:31Tried to put the speakerphone in the car.
- 2:33I was like, I have no idea how this sounds,
- 2:34but okay.
- 2:37Well, it's kind of the whipping post
- 2:39for the weather report is basically what it is.
- 2:42We're pretty serious here,
- 2:43but during the morning, it can get pretty...
- 2:45No, it's a good show.
- 2:45You need that.
- 2:46You need a fun, easy transition into the day.
- 2:49And you do touch on some serious stuff for sure,
- 2:51but there's always a twist to try to bring it back to like,
- 2:53hey, let's lighten things up, which is good
- 2:55because we can't be hardcore all the time, man.
- 2:58Yeah, exactly.
- 2:58We need those breaks.
- 2:59You got to lighten it up for sure, especially these days, man.
- 3:02So, hey, I want to get right into it, man,
- 3:04because like I said, you've had a lot of guests on.
- 3:07I'm going to go through them.
- 3:08Alex Kane, you've got Michelle Stiles,
- 3:11you've got Eric Robinson, John Carlos Fry,
- 3:14and the last one with Zolai Habibi.
- 3:17Is that what I want to say?
- 3:18Yeah, Zolai Habibi.
- 3:19Right.
- 3:20Yeah.
- 3:20Yeah. And all of them has touched on different things that are going on, current events and stuff like that. And it's really interesting. And the thing that I wanted to talk to you about, and we're going to meld all these things because these last five shows that you did kind of just kind of fall into what's going on with the world right now and how we all feel about it.
- 3:38And now another one is just like,
- 3:41I pound and pound and pound all the time
- 3:43about how divided we are.
- 3:46And that's a big problem to me, especially.
- 3:50And I don't take it personally,
- 3:52but my world site and my foresight with me,
- 3:56my coworkers, my friends,
- 3:59it outsources the community and everything else.
- 4:01It brings that all in perspective.
- 4:04And I'm telling you what, man,
- 4:05I'm not very
- 4:07what do you want to call
- 4:09optimist about
- 4:11the future
- 4:12of what we're doing in the United States right now
- 4:15I really not and it doesn't matter
- 4:17how you feel about Trump
- 4:18Are you all his black pillars?
- 4:21Yeah exactly
- 4:22the whole thing
- 4:25is that it doesn't matter what you feel about
- 4:27Trump it doesn't matter what you feel about
- 4:29Democrats or whatever
- 4:30the thing is that we're in this life we're all in this
- 4:33life together and we're
- 4:35all kind of right now walking around on eggshells, dude.
- 4:39I hate that.
- 4:40Yeah, I hate that too.
- 4:42And that's unfortunately something that has been going on since,
- 4:46well, I think started with the protests in the 60s, right?
- 4:53Late 60s, whatever, with Vietnam.
- 4:55Started there.
- 4:57But I think in the 90s is when it really started to become an era
- 5:03when you were chastised for your viewpoint
- 5:06or your belief or your opinion.
- 5:08And then in the 2000s, forget about it.
- 5:10It totally became information warfare,
- 5:13keeping people in line by shaming them.
- 5:17And then we had the whole cancellation movement, right?
- 5:22So it's now like, well, I don't agree with you.
- 5:23So let me take away your income and your livelihood,
- 5:26everything about you.
- 5:26We're just going to wipe it off the face of the earth
- 5:28because I don't agree with what you have to say.
- 5:29kind of stabilized a bit now, but it's still there.
- 5:34I mean, it's that see the underbelly of society we have right now
- 5:39because the issue is like you feel you can't say certain things
- 5:45with certain people at the workplace, etc.
- 5:48But that is because your viewpoint may not be the majority viewpoint.
- 5:55And the funny thing about a workplace is you're not supposed to talk about politics and all this stuff,
- 5:59But they absolutely do if they feel they have the majority in an opinion, especially if you work in a place that is primarily leftist or Democrat-led.
- 6:07And I know where you're located in that area, it's like you can't really get away from that.
- 6:13Yeah, and the same goes for me on many things.
- 6:17It's like I can't really express everything.
- 6:19And I got to bite my tongue when I hear people trying to talk politics, especially geopolitics.
- 6:23It's like you guys really don't know what the hell you're talking about.
- 6:26And you could tell it's all gleamed.
- 6:29Their information is all gleamed from the headlines.
- 6:30They're just like, it's ridiculous.
- 6:33And then if you try to say something, you know it's going to backfire on you.
- 6:37And then there's always that threat of being called in the office, HR, etc.
- 6:41And then it just leads to like, oh, well, we don't believe you're fit because you don't align with our values.
- 6:45It's like, well, what are your values?
- 6:47Yeah.
- 6:47Right?
- 6:48And it's just a sad thing.
- 6:49But we see it in media.
- 6:50We see it in podcasting.
- 6:52I mean, let's just be honest.
- 6:53I think you have a great show.
- 6:55but it's like we're never
- 6:57like even with me I mean I'm not
- 6:59I'm not super super big
- 7:01I mean I'm blessed to be bigger than the
- 7:03average I guess you know depending on how you
- 7:05look at it but at the same time
- 7:07it's like we're not getting
- 7:10the exposure and reach that we could because
- 7:11we're not playing the game
- 7:13and my approach is like
- 7:15I'd rather put out quality content
- 7:18based on truth
- 7:19I like to talk to everybody I don't
- 7:21always agree with them and you see that
- 7:23contrast. I know you see it because
- 7:25of my solo episodes. I'm a different person,
- 7:28but when I have a guest, I know
- 7:29when to pull back and just like, let's
- 7:31have this conversation. I want to hear your side.
- 7:34And I've had some guests
- 7:35not want to be on the show
- 7:37because they're like, oh, you're a MAGA guy, whatever.
- 7:39It's like, well, I don't even know where that came from. Maybe because
- 7:41in the beginning...
- 7:42Well, maybe because when Trump was
- 7:45running, I was behind Trump.
- 7:47I mean, look at the alternative. I was not
- 7:49going to let another Democrat be in
- 7:51office for another four years or even the potential
- 7:53over another eight years.
- 7:54It's like, it just wasn't going to happen.
- 7:55It wasn't that I hated Democrats.
- 7:57It was just like,
- 7:58the people that they were pushing up
- 7:59as the option,
- 8:02it's like,
- 8:02was this really the best you guys can do?
- 8:05And now they're so broken.
- 8:08I mean,
- 8:08they're running against each other.
- 8:10You know, we got Jasmine Crockett just,
- 8:12I mean, still went to another,
- 8:14went to Tellarico, another Democrat,
- 8:15but at the same time.
- 8:16Oh my God, that guy,
- 8:17and that guy is just,
- 8:18you know, you listen to him
- 8:19and you go like,
- 8:20oh my God, this guy's even worse.
- 8:22Oh, man.
- 8:24He's just been crumping without the ubonics, you know?
- 8:27Wow.
- 8:28They have no direction.
- 8:30They're just doing the same old tired thing, tired playbook.
- 8:34And I think as much as, you know, the oppression of valid opinions, informed opinions, you know,
- 8:43the thing is like guys like us, I believe we're not taking, well, let me rephrase this.
- 8:47We're always swimming upstream.
- 8:50To me, it's not always about what's popular.
- 8:52It's about what's right, what's true.
- 8:54And, you know, when you mentioned that episode I had with John Carlos Frey, the guy's a six-time Emmy Award-winning journalist.
- 9:0120-something years of just investigating the border, Border Patrol migrants.
- 9:06And unfortunately, that episode kind of got buried because as soon as we're going to release it and we're talking, here goes the war with Iran.
- 9:13And it's like, damn it.
- 9:16You know?
- 9:16And you got to squish gears and you have to squish gears.
- 9:19Yeah. And well, and the fortunate thing is, you know, not to discredit him at all,
- 9:22because it has nothing to do with popularity of him whatsoever, or even me.
- 9:26It's just like, nobody wanted, they moved on already. It's like timing.
- 9:30So it's like this news cycle doesn't help us either. But you know,
- 9:34the more those videos stay out in these interviews and you know,
- 9:37like our discussions, people will discover them and they usually end up in the end
- 9:40doing fairly well. But I really felt bad about that. I was like, man, John,
- 9:45you know, we're going back and forth. His people were like, yeah,
- 9:49I'm not sure.
- 9:50You're kind of a MAGA guy.
- 9:51We believe in migrants.
- 9:52I'm like, well, what makes you think I don't?
- 9:54Let's talk.
- 9:55I mean, I think that's good.
- 9:56That's what gets caught in the mix when we're out there
- 9:59and we're kibitzing with our friends and confidants and family
- 10:04and stuff like that is that they all lump us into either one side
- 10:07or the other.
- 10:08There's no real mix.
- 10:09There's no real kind of, I want to call goulash,
- 10:12where everything is kind of mixed in together.
- 10:15Because I know you and you know me.
- 10:16and we talk on different shows and stuff like that.
- 10:20We're just multifaceted and it's just not a MAGA thing.
- 10:24I was a Democrat for a long time.
- 10:26I was a Bernie bro.
- 10:27My God, I was a Bernie bro.
- 10:29I was too.
- 10:30But the Democrats were different back then.
- 10:33Many of our people that we communicate with,
- 10:36like our circle,
- 10:38they all say pretty much the same thing.
- 10:41They've changed.
- 10:41Because look, let's go back the night.
- 10:43Let's look at Clinton-era Democrats.
- 10:46right?
- 10:48They were all for,
- 10:49um,
- 10:50closing the borders,
- 10:51deporting people.
- 10:51They were on there saying immigrants are stealing our jobs.
- 10:54Like they were doing everything that they're now saying is wrong with the
- 10:58messaging and the direction of the current Trump administration.
- 11:02And I'm like,
- 11:03if I put you guys up like this,
- 11:05you're the same fucking party.
- 11:07But all of a sudden between here and here,
- 11:09it's like,
- 11:10what happened?
- 11:11Yeah.
- 11:12You know?
- 11:12And then there are excuses like,
- 11:13well,
- 11:13you know,
- 11:14we do evolve.
- 11:15And yeah,
- 11:15Yeah, well, let me say, in marketing, it's always known to everybody that the person does not need fault.
- 11:24The same marketing that's been working in the 1930s is working now.
- 11:28Absolutely.
- 11:29And marketers know that and they use those same tactics and stuff like that.
- 11:34But really, when it comes down to this geopolitics, you brought up geopolitics, let's kind of back back into that.
- 11:39Is that, yeah, everybody uses headlines.
- 11:41I mean, I've got all kinds of headlines we could talk about this morning about geopolitics.
- 11:44So all of a sudden, everybody is attuned to Iran.
- 11:48Everybody knows everything about Iran.
- 11:50You know what?
- 11:51I'll tell you what.
- 11:52I don't know shit about Iran.
- 11:54I know how I feel about Iran.
- 11:55But I do know this about Iran.
- 11:57I was a young airman in a Titan II missile silo in 1979 when they took the hostages.
- 12:04And I know exactly the readiness that I had to be at being in that missile silo at that time.
- 12:09scared out of my gorge because I'm freaking 18 and 19 years old at the time. And you're there in a
- 12:17nuclear missile silo. The alarm goes off. You're ready to do it. And you're just waiting. I mean,
- 12:25they put us on high alert. I remember the Iran before the Shah was deposed and gone.
- 12:34And I know, and I've lived through this history. And kind of what the reason why I wanted you
- 12:39on here because you know the last five episodes is kind of spanned over that time where we realized
- 12:46that what's going on in Iran right now is different than it was going on in the 70s okay we we've got
- 12:54what three generations of people already that have passed by that so some of these people that are out there and they protesting especially the young people have no idea about what went on in the seventies
- 13:08All they know is that they're, they're tired of being oppressed.
- 13:10And I got a really pointed question here that I wanted, that I wanted to say in
- 13:151979, it was the students that upro,
- 13:18that was doing the uprising to bring it on the, uh,
- 13:21the regime that they have now in Iran.
- 13:24and now we're supposed to trust those same students
- 13:28that are protesting now
- 13:31to try to bring change into Iran.
- 13:34Now, I know those students are different now
- 13:36than they were in the 70s,
- 13:37but these are still the young people
- 13:39that are creating this movement.
- 13:40What do you think about that?
- 13:42I think the difference is,
- 13:45well, there's a few parts to that, Bruce.
- 13:48Yeah, there's a couple parts.
- 13:50In 1979, what happened was the Islamic regime took advantage of what was going on with the current Shah at the time.
- 13:59When he nationalized oil, for example, a lot of people thought, or traditionalists or conservatives,
- 14:06being those who were practitioners of Islam, sorry, morning, get my coffee in.
- 14:13But those who were practitioners of Islam who took it very conservatively or very literally,
- 14:19they've been wanting to take control for years.
- 14:22We've got a 1,400-year-old religion that was also invented 600 years after Christianity.
- 14:29And even if you look at it from that point of view,
- 14:31Christianity was founded after Christ,
- 14:35which still doesn't even, if you look at that gap in time between Christianity and Islam,
- 14:40and you want to go further back, you go back to the Abrahamic teachings, right?
- 14:45Go back to the Old Testament.
- 14:47Islam is even further removed by a few thousand years.
- 14:49So the reality is Islam was on a mission.
- 14:55Those who practice Islam were on a mission to convert and take over many nations.
- 15:01Happened to Istanbul.
- 15:02So Constantinople was taken, right?
- 15:07Turned into now what is today Turkey, which is a Muslim nation.
- 15:12And so they were doing the same thing in Persia.
- 15:15Okay, so there's a lot of history here.
- 15:16This was a long, slow, steady mission to convert.
- 15:21It's not the original religion of Iran, what is known as Iran today.
- 15:26And a lot of people don't realize that.
- 15:28And even now, there are people who live in Iran that are not Muslims,
- 15:33or at least not the Muslim that you see that is being presented by the Islamic regime
- 15:38or those who practice extreme Islam.
- 15:40It's not the evil extreme part of the religion.
- 15:43So there's a difference between people taking advantage of a religion to gain power and control, which is exactly what the regime did in 79, because the people were not happy with the Shah.
- 15:55They thought he was trying to become too westernized.
- 15:58They didn't like that the oil was being nationalized.
- 16:00They thought that he was pandering to the UK and the USA at the time.
- 16:05But a lot of people ignore why the USA ever got involved anyway.
- 16:08And the history even goes before that is that it came down to trying to keep communism out of the area.
- 16:15Because a lot of people never talk about or they intentionally ignore that in Afghanistan, that Russia of the time or the USSR of the time was trying to gain a foothold in the area and control it.
- 16:28They also were doing the same thing with Iran.
- 16:32And a lot of people ignore that fact of history, that part of history.
- 16:36They just see, oh, the U.S. intervention, the U.K., and they screwed everything up, and they forced regime change.
- 16:41Well, that's not what really happened.
- 16:43The U.S. really got involved to try to help those who were against the rise of communism and or even Islam to take over.
- 16:54So there's those things that they don't talk about.
- 16:57But 79 was ripe for the taking for the Islamic regime because people were fed up with the Shah at the time.
- 17:02They didn't think that he was doing what's right.
- 17:03And he was also, his regime also, or, you know, uh, was, was doing things that were considered very authoritarian.
- 17:10Um, you know, he was arresting people.
- 17:13He was silencing people.
- 17:15Yeah.
- 17:15So, so, you know, you got this monarchy that, that seemed to be benevolent for the people that was starting to turn away from the people and treat them like, no, you're my subjects.
- 17:25Yeah.
- 17:25So get into your, get into your question here.
- 17:28the way to change the nation is to force change through the youth.
- 17:35And of course, that's why you saw that happening with college students,
- 17:39just as you see in America.
- 17:41I mean, where do all the protests and the ideas of communism,
- 17:45Marxism, socialism, where do those all come from?
- 17:48It's all from the people that are in the colleges, universities,
- 17:53higher education, they call it.
- 17:55Yeah, academia for sure.
- 17:56But they call it higher education, but I got to question that.
- 17:59Is it really higher education?
- 18:01I mean, it seems like forced indoctrination to me.
- 18:04And so that's what they did.
- 18:06It's an old playbook.
- 18:07And if you look at 1979 of Iran, that is what they did.
- 18:12They worked with the youth.
- 18:14They infiltrated the universities.
- 18:16They're like, no, this is the way.
- 18:18They were trying to preach how we will take care of the people.
- 18:22we got to turn Iran back to its traditional roots.
- 18:26But the problem with that,
- 18:27the traditional roots really wasn't Islam
- 18:29as much as they want to claim it is.
- 18:32So they easily were able to take advantage of the situation
- 18:34and they did.
- 18:35They lied to the people
- 18:36and once they got into power,
- 18:38they did exactly what they were warned
- 18:40that everybody was warning
- 18:42or the West was warning everybody about.
- 18:44And they assert themselves,
- 18:46became powerful to control the people.
- 18:48And then they instilled their view of Islam,
- 18:52which was a very authoritarian view of it.
- 18:55Very rigid, very strict.
- 18:57And they suppressed the people to control them.
- 18:59I mean, they control the internet,
- 19:00they control everything.
- 19:02And so the difference between then and now
- 19:04and why you see maybe three generations removed
- 19:07is because the internet is huge, it's prevalent.
- 19:11Like there's only so much of the outside world
- 19:13in today's modern world that you can suppress.
- 19:16And let's accent that.
- 19:17Let's accent that what they've been disarmed also.
- 19:20So you have a disarmed society
- 19:22against a society, against a government that has all the weapons also.
- 19:27Yeah, absolutely.
- 19:28I mean, that's just it.
- 19:29That is another tag and playbook that you see in,
- 19:32that we see in extreme Islam, we see in communism, right?
- 19:36So, you know, how many communist countries do you see
- 19:38where the people actually own weapons personally?
- 19:41Yeah, exactly.
- 19:42You know, exactly.
- 19:43Yeah, so fast forwarding into what we have dealing with the United States
- 19:49and in certain areas of the United States,
- 19:51It's just in New York City, we've got Mandami who was just elected by the people to lead New York City, one of the largest cities in America.
- 20:01And now we've got communism coming in there.
- 20:04And this was all brought forth by a young vote.
- 20:07I mean, let's face it.
- 20:09When they came out to vote for that, a lot of the young peoples came out and they decided that they wanted to vote.
- 20:14and this is being a part of the situation
- 20:18where three generations from my generation,
- 20:21three or four generations from my generation
- 20:23are now looking at everybody and going like,
- 20:26oh my God, we're going to leave this freaking government
- 20:29to these kids.
- 20:31Yeah.
- 20:33It doesn't scare me as much.
- 20:35I mean, I'm sure that back when I was started,
- 20:38when I was back in that missile silo in 1979,
- 20:41I just voted for the first time in my whole life.
- 20:44You know, my parents looking at me going like, oh, my God, we're going to leave this world up for these kids.
- 20:50I mean, so it's a perpetual it's a perpetual statement that keeps going on and on and on.
- 20:54But what do you think about that?
- 20:56I mean, so there's some similarities to some duopoly there with the way that college students are now being taught by academia in the colleges that, of course, they're using the same old playbook as you just noted and going forward with that.
- 21:11It's part of the communist Marxist playbook.
- 21:13literally.
- 21:15And the reason,
- 21:16so you brought up
- 21:16three generations
- 21:18a few times
- 21:19and that's important
- 21:20to note
- 21:23because
- 21:23the process
- 21:25is long,
- 21:26slow,
- 21:26and steady.
- 21:27It's not instant.
- 21:29It is a drip.
- 21:31It's a constant,
- 21:33I mean,
- 21:33it's a programming
- 21:33of the people
- 21:34and that's what's been happening.
- 21:36And it's been happening
- 21:36through,
- 21:37again,
- 21:38higher education
- 21:38and
- 21:40academia.
- 21:41and this is what they do.
- 21:45Okay, third generation, right?
- 21:47Third generation from your time, for example.
- 21:51The reality is what they did is slowly introduce the ideas
- 21:56of a better world through socialism and then Marxism
- 22:01and saying, well, maybe the way of the U.S.,
- 22:05our political structure, capitalism is just bad.
- 22:09the reason everything is bad in the USA is because of capitalism.
- 22:13The reason the world is bad is because the USA is the big, bad bully
- 22:16that's beating everybody over the head with a stick.
- 22:18And that message has been constant for, as you said, going on three generations.
- 22:24So eventually, you know, it's like if you're going to have to,
- 22:28let's say if you breed an animal and you want a different trait out of that animal,
- 22:32it takes time through manipulating the DNA, right, over time.
- 22:36And then eventually that's how you get like a Shetland pony or, you know, a certain dog breed example.
- 22:41I'm not equating animals to politics here, but, you know, I think that's a valid example because that's how they're doing it to the people.
- 22:52They're controlling the messaging and being consistent in the message without being overwhelming.
- 22:57So it's like a slow, steady, you know, it's like if I told you every day, sky isn't blue, it's black.
- 23:02And I never changed my position.
- 23:04Eventually one day you're going to question whether it was blue.
- 23:06Exactly.
- 23:07So that's what they've been doing.
- 23:08So that's why you see this.
- 23:10Now, what didn't help, though, when we're talking about Mamdani,
- 23:12what didn't help is you got to question,
- 23:16okay, we understand the messaging in academia
- 23:18and them trying to change the people's view over three generations.
- 23:23But that doesn't explain why Kathy Hochul got behind Mamdani.
- 23:29It doesn't explain why AOC did or why Bernie Sanders.
- 23:32Like, why are these people who are, you know, older,
- 23:36Well, AOC is still a little bit younger.
- 23:37It's not that typical Democrat.
- 23:39It's not that typical Democrat.
- 23:40Right.
- 23:40Why were they able to get view random?
- 23:43Yeah, that we've evolved with.
- 23:44Yeah, exactly.
- 23:45And so, Momdani ran as a Democratic socialist.
- 23:50Socialist in the damn name.
- 23:52How were they able to get behind him for the sake of just hating Trump is really what it was?
- 23:57And Trump being such a polarizing figure, they're like, no matter what we're going to do, we're going to make sure that we control this.
- 24:03and here's the new thing
- 24:05that the youth are kind of latching onto.
- 24:07So we're going to support this.
- 24:08But as soon as he was in office,
- 24:09him and Kathy Hogle been like this.
- 24:12She's kind of like pulled the reins in on,
- 24:14well, you can and can't do certain things.
- 24:17Even though the city of New York
- 24:18should be managed by Mom Donnie,
- 24:21I mean, honestly, being the mayor,
- 24:22Kathy also realized like,
- 24:23well, this is the jewel of New York state.
- 24:26Like this, everything that is done here
- 24:28is a message sent to the world.
- 24:29Just like people consider San Francisco
- 24:32to be that in California.
- 24:33even though you and I definitely probably don't feel that way.
- 24:37Yeah.
- 24:38But I think that's what happened.
- 24:40It's,
- 24:40you know,
- 24:41everybody's been warning about this and everybody's been ignoring saying,
- 24:44Oh,
- 24:44you guys are just,
- 24:45you know,
- 24:45far right.
- 24:46You're,
- 24:46you're,
- 24:47you just don't want to change your old.
- 24:48You just don't understand the evolution of the world around you.
- 24:52It's no bullshit.
- 24:54You know,
- 24:54you allowed it to happen.
- 24:55It's like,
- 24:56you never fixed the leaky faucet.
- 24:58And here we go.
- 25:00You know,
- 25:00now it's a flood in your damn bathroom.
- 25:02Now it's leaking out into the kitchen and it's taking over your house.
- 25:05And I don't know how they're going to turn it off unless they step in and
- 25:08literally just say this shit stops now.
- 25:10Right.
- 25:12And we've seen the same thing through the use of,
- 25:15of manipulating the immigration system.
- 25:18You know,
- 25:18how our borders have been handled,
- 25:20how it's,
- 25:21how there's been preferential treatment given to certain groups that
- 25:25immigrate.
- 25:26You know,
- 25:27we can talk about the Somalis in Minnesota.
- 25:29We can,
- 25:30we can talk about what's going on our southern border with mexico but not just mexico you know
- 25:33most most peoples from south america from latin america and and you can see how the policies have
- 25:40shifted over the years to to like one day going immigrants are the future uh okay well that's been
- 25:46going on since uh maybe you can correct me here i think it was around after six around the 60s is
- 25:53when that started like happening more prevalently is that correct yeah yeah yeah because well you We had the Union you know coming into California and really basically restructuring how they did farming here and agriculture So that been prevalent for a long time as long as I can remember And you know like I said you know this whole thing has evolved over time like you were mentioning And we could get into I mean this all revolves around every single episode that you had in the last five episodes
- 26:25that kind of melded into one.
- 26:28Kind of ties together.
- 26:29I mean, immigration, I mean, world consequences
- 26:34as far as war and stuff like that.
- 26:36Venezuela, I mean, I just read,
- 26:38I have a thing here from NPR
- 26:41that came out of Fox News this morning
- 26:43about Venezuela that has really changed
- 26:45since Maduro has left.
- 26:47And where in hell is Maduro?
- 26:49Who knew, right?
- 26:50I guess he wasn't lying, right?
- 26:51Who knew that was going to change, you know?
- 26:52we've got
- 26:54we've got the
- 26:55what else
- 26:56we got you know
- 26:56Trump getting into
- 26:58to Iran
- 26:59I mean back to that
- 27:00this whole thing
- 27:01is that
- 27:02I think that
- 27:04you know
- 27:04you were
- 27:05you were kind of sad
- 27:06about the fact that
- 27:07that you had Jacob Fry on
- 27:08and
- 27:09John
- 27:10or John
- 27:11excuse me
- 27:11John Carlos Fry
- 27:12and having to
- 27:14you know
- 27:15the news cycle
- 27:17would go past that
- 27:18right
- 27:19we all
- 27:20I talk a lot about
- 27:21the shiny object
- 27:22Epstein files, the war, this, taking over this, Nancy, whatever her name is.
- 27:30Mace, yeah.
- 27:31Yeah, not Nancy Mace, the missing grandma.
- 27:35All these things take precedence over the news cycle,
- 27:40and then we forget about what's going on in the background.
- 27:43We forget about that.
- 27:44This is what's front and center.
- 27:46Yes.
- 27:47I'm starting to believe that all those things are important and true.
- 27:52I mean, but the news cycle is going to be the news cycle.
- 27:54Whatever sells advertising is what's going to lead,
- 27:58regardless of whether or not we're still looking for, you know,
- 28:01Savannah's grandma,
- 28:02regardless of whether we're still asking for the Epstein files to be,
- 28:06you know, everything, you know, to be released.
- 28:10No matter what we feel about immigration,
- 28:12no matter what we feel about Mandami.
- 28:13I mean, now Iran is in the, you know, that's the focal point.
- 28:18Okay, so, but the thing is with media,
- 28:21and I know you know this, but I'm going to say it.
- 28:24It's out of our control, and the people pulling the strings,
- 28:27it's like when you're driving your car, a race car,
- 28:30it's like you have control of the throttle.
- 28:32You can rev it up, slow it down, and the new cycle is fast,
- 28:37but they do conveniently speed it up to basically sidestep certain events, right?
- 28:46There's things that have happened recently that didn't get a lot of attention.
- 28:49I mean, for example, they just signed, I don't know what it was actually named.
- 28:54I have to look it up, but I saved the info, the coalition of South Americans or the Americas,
- 29:01I mean, to where many Latin American countries signed an agreement with the US to absolutely
- 29:05go after narco terrorists and root them out.
- 29:09And they did so agreeing to do it in a military fashion, meaning the US now has the power
- 29:15to work with these governments to go into their countries with military
- 29:18to take out these narco terrorists.
- 29:21Yeah.
- 29:22Who didn't sign?
- 29:23Mexico.
- 29:24Why?
- 29:25I don't know.
- 29:27But anyway, that happened and you saw a blip.
- 29:29It's like, okay, here we go.
- 29:31Big old Iran, like you said.
- 29:33But Iran's a big deal because we've been on a collision course with them,
- 29:36as I said before, with other people for about 50 years.
- 29:41I mean, this isn't an overnight thing.
- 29:44The problem is we had about 50 years of bad policy and inaction that led us to where we
- 29:49are now.
- 29:50And everybody's trying to say, well, not everybody, but those paid influencers are like, oh, it's
- 29:53Israel.
- 29:54We're doing everything at the behest of Israel.
- 29:56No, we're not.
- 29:57When you have a regime whose policy is death to America and to conquer the West intentionally,
- 30:04eventually shit's going to hit the fan.
- 30:08Regardless of the past friends we had who didn't want to do anything and actually release
- 30:11funds to Iran for whatever reason, I have no idea.
- 30:14they are the number one state sponsor of terrorism, period.
- 30:18You're not going to take that away.
- 30:20The problem that we see is,
- 30:22what I don't want to see is people constantly saying,
- 30:24Iran, Iran, Iran.
- 30:25They should be referencing the Islamic regime
- 30:28or the Iranian regime and the IRGC.
- 30:31Those are the two issues we have in Iran.
- 30:33It's not necessarily-
- 30:35Two different issues too.
- 30:35Two different issues also.
- 30:37Absolutely.
- 30:38So that's the thing that I'm hoping
- 30:41that people are more educated on.
- 30:42It's like you don't want to just say Iran constantly and people start to see Iranian people as the problem.
- 30:49They have to bring the attention to what it really is.
- 30:51It's the IRGC and it's the Islamic regime or the Iranian regime that's been in control.
- 30:56The problem with Iran is they have to completely root out this theocratic government.
- 31:02They have to also make sure that Islam is never front and center in making the decisions for the people as a whole or as a nation.
- 31:12And that includes everything from their own nation to their geopolitical relationships.
- 31:18If you want to follow that particular religion, it should be a personal thing.
- 31:22And you can say this is a Western idea, but not really because, again, it's not the inherent religion of Persia.
- 31:30It's just not.
- 31:31Yeah.
- 31:31And let's bring that to the forefront.
- 31:34I mean, they talk about the United States being a Christian nation.
- 31:37I mean, I'm a Christian.
- 31:39I consider myself a Christian.
- 31:41I believe in God and everything.
- 31:46But I don't think it should define our nation.
- 31:48I don't think, like exactly with Iran,
- 31:50I don't think that the Muslim or Islamist faith
- 31:54should be the prevalent point of their existence as a nation.
- 32:01I don't think the Christian faith should be the focal point of our nation.
- 32:07It's values and its morals that really drive this world.
- 32:10And like you said, I think it was this last episode you have with Zola.
- 32:20You kind of pressed on that.
- 32:22It was just like, that's a personal thing.
- 32:25My walk with God, my walk with the Bible, my walk with my faith is my personal journey.
- 32:31It shouldn't be a part of my country.
- 32:33Now, those morals and values should be.
- 32:35And I think the Islam faith, I think their morals and values should be.
- 32:38I know plenty of Muslim people that are just kind as hell.
- 32:42They think this is all crazy just as much as we do.
- 32:45I mean, it's the fringes on both sides that are just like the ones that are the craziest.
- 32:50And I think we need to get away from that.
- 32:53And I don't know how to get away from that because you're always going to have the crazy fundamentalists that are somehow rising to power.
- 33:00Well, the problem is we let Islamic fundamentalism in general.
- 33:04And I'm not saying us as the Americans or the West.
- 33:06But, you know, even in the Middle East, they rose to power.
- 33:09And once they had it, they kept it, you know, by disarming people, by creating these terrorist groups or funding them.
- 33:16And I think if we're honest, I don't think these people actually believe in actual real Islam.
- 33:22I mean, they've cherry picked it apart and molded it into the doctrine that they use to manipulate and control people, period.
- 33:30Yeah, and we have too.
- 33:31and we have too
- 33:32and that's where I was trying
- 33:33to get the duopoly
- 33:33in between the two
- 33:34the two factions
- 33:36I want to say factions
- 33:37because everybody's going like
- 33:39oh this is
- 33:39this is between
- 33:40evil and
- 33:42yeah good and evil
- 33:44you know
- 33:44it's the superhero fight
- 33:46you know
- 33:46but there's so much nuance
- 33:47and gray area there
- 33:48that you know
- 33:48people don't want to address
- 33:49I guess it's just easier to go
- 33:51you know
- 33:51bad
- 33:52good
- 33:53fight
- 33:54you know
- 33:54whatever
- 33:54so
- 33:56example I used last time
- 33:58was also this
- 33:59it's like
- 33:59I told Zalala
- 34:00like look
- 34:01This isn't the West or America saying Muslims bad or we hate Muslims.
- 34:05And I'm tired of people taking it that way or trying to push that messaging, even from
- 34:11her side, by the way.
- 34:12That's not the message that's trying to be driven.
- 34:14The message is we understand there are good people.
- 34:17We understand people are born into things that they have no control of.
- 34:20Like if you're born into that area, you're going to be a Muslim, period.
- 34:23But in the modern age, there's only so much you can control in terms of messaging.
- 34:28We know this.
- 34:28things get into Iran, into areas, because the internet is too big. Social media is too big.
- 34:35Eventually, they're going to be introduced to these other ideas and start to question things.
- 34:38It doesn't mean that they themselves are not going to practice Islam, but they're going to
- 34:42understand that we live in a modern world. And my example was, well, let's look at the Bible.
- 34:47If we look at the Old Testament, it was very brutal. If we practiced Christianity by the literal
- 34:54Old Testament ways of living,
- 34:56we'd be in a very different world right now.
- 34:58We'd probably look closer to what Iran was.
- 35:01Maybe.
- 35:02Maybe.
- 35:02I don't know.
- 35:04But we realized, you have to adapt.
- 35:06You move on.
- 35:07We can't just stone people.
- 35:09We can't cut their hands off.
- 35:10We get it.
- 35:11There's other ways of dealing with it.
- 35:12There's still ways to punish and hold people accountable.
- 35:15And so that's what I told her.
- 35:17It's like there is the difference.
- 35:18And I think people have got to understand that
- 35:20because there was a time Christianity,
- 35:22before it was called Christianity,
- 35:24It was brutal.
- 35:25It evolved after Jesus, after the New Testament.
- 35:28That's pretty much what I think the modern world was based on, was moving forward the
- 35:32New Testament.
- 35:33It evolved.
- 35:35And yes, it's older than Islam.
- 35:36And I can get into all that, but let's just let that be for now.
- 35:40And I think that we need to understand, the world needs to understand that not all Muslims
- 35:46literally believe what is being sensationalized in the media.
- 35:52And we can call it sensationalization,
- 35:54but at the same time,
- 35:55I mean, if every time you see a terrorist group
- 35:58claiming their allegiance to Islam and Allah
- 36:00and whatever,
- 36:01and they're just committing violent acts
- 36:04and cutting people's heads off
- 36:06and cutting their hands and feet off
- 36:08and raping women,
- 36:10I mean, that's not a good thing.
- 36:13And that's why you have people
- 36:15believing what they believe.
- 36:16And then we have the soft invasion of the West.
- 36:18and I press Zalal on this too.
- 36:21It's like you can't deny
- 36:23that the people are starting to feel the way they are
- 36:25because look, if Islam,
- 36:28the way it has been presented,
- 36:30not saying everybody who practices,
- 36:32but the way it's been presented
- 36:33and what we see in extreme Islamic practitioners,
- 36:38the way that they practice it basically,
- 36:41is that this invasion of the West,
- 36:45if they believe that it was so good,
- 36:47why are they leaving?
- 36:47Why are they infiltrating the UK?
- 36:50Why are they wanting to be in the US?
- 36:53And the thing is, it's not like they want to integrate.
- 36:56Some have, but you have groups that are literally saying,
- 36:59we're going to start our own community,
- 37:01or we're going to have our own gates, our own police, our own schools.
- 37:04We're going to have our own way.
- 37:05No, that's you trying to set up a country within a country.
- 37:08Let's just call it what it is.
- 37:09It's a fucking invasion.
- 37:11You're literally telling the country,
- 37:13the destination in which you were traveling to,
- 37:15that we're just here to take over
- 37:18because we're going to do things our way.
- 37:19We don't care about your laws.
- 37:21Or fine, your laws exist outside our gates.
- 37:24No, that's not how the world works.
- 37:26That's not how it works.
- 37:27Right.
- 37:27And that's a huge difference
- 37:29between what's going on
- 37:30with the immigration coming from South America
- 37:33and like I said, back in the 60s
- 37:36when we were talking about farm workers and stuff,
- 37:38it's like the people from South America,
- 37:41Mexican people, Hispanic people,
- 37:43even people from China and other places that are coming in
- 37:46came here for a fact is that they wanted this freedom.
- 37:49They wanted what we have.
- 37:52They want to come here and they want to work
- 37:54whether they get here by boat,
- 37:55whether they get here by plane,
- 37:56whether they get here by crossing the border
- 37:58and over the deserts and all that other stuff.
- 38:01That's another thing.
- 38:04But I want to talk about immigration policy now
- 38:07is that we've had a problem with this forever,
- 38:10forever, forever.
- 38:11Now, you can have your opinion on whether you think that Trump is too hard on the immigrants.
- 38:17I happen to think that that way.
- 38:19I lean that way that I think that this broad brushing of immigration has gone a little bit too far.
- 38:25I wish that we could kind of pull back the reins on it or so, but that's not going to happen for another three years.
- 38:33And maybe not even then.
- 38:34But the fact of the matter is that we are a nation of immigrants, but the cultural in-your-face of what other people want to come and do, like you said about Somalians and some other people that want to come in here, is just beyond what we thought about being a melting pot.
- 38:52So it like let kind of go back to like when Ellis Island was around So they would come in they would go through Ellis Island they would either be quarantined for a while and then led into the United States
- 39:09and they would come in
- 39:10and they would have these boroughs.
- 39:12That's where the five boroughs
- 39:13of New York City came in.
- 39:15Yeah.
- 39:15Because one was Italian,
- 39:17one was Irish,
- 39:18one was white people,
- 39:20one was this,
- 39:20one was that.
- 39:22And they did kind of set up their own thing.
- 39:24I mean, you got the mafia,
- 39:25you got this and that,
- 39:26you know, that went on.
- 39:27even got the Irish gangs and stuff like that.
- 39:29But still, they're looking at Western values.
- 39:32They're looking at this melting pot of people
- 39:34that actually eventually got together
- 39:37and became people that had similar values.
- 39:43And that's what's lacking.
- 39:45I think that's what's lacking today
- 39:46in our immigration policies
- 39:48and letting people in and being able to do these things.
- 39:51You've got people down in Texas
- 39:52who are trying to set up these communities
- 39:55that they don't want anybody in.
- 39:56You got places in Minneapolis where you can't go.
- 39:59A white person can't go.
- 40:01And the law, actually, the law of Minneapolis will not let them, you know, they say, you
- 40:07need to get out of here.
- 40:07This is not your place.
- 40:09Bullshit.
- 40:09Are you kidding me?
- 40:11I mean.
- 40:11Well, okay.
- 40:12So let's compare and contrast.
- 40:16What happened with the immigrants, you know, when we're talking about the period with Ellis
- 40:22Highlands and the influx of immigrants.
- 40:24One of the probably, I mean, not anymore after Biden, but it was one of the largest, largest
- 40:29periods of immigration into the United States, but it was very much controlled.
- 40:34Now let's, let's just be honest about something.
- 40:38I don't have a problem and I don't think you do about people having communities, but when
- 40:44your community is closing out the nation in which you were choosing to set up your home,
- 40:52your family and the rest of your life.
- 40:55And you're just putting a big middle middle finger up into the air and saying,
- 40:59fuck America,
- 41:00because you know,
- 41:01we're just going to take what we had here and we're just going to do it on
- 41:05your land.
- 41:06That's basically all you're doing is admitting you're just here for economic
- 41:09reasons.
- 41:10That's it.
- 41:11And that's the problem that I see right now is that America or the USA has
- 41:16been treated more like an economic zone than a land of opportunity based on our
- 41:21constitution, our laws, and whatever the USA can offer you.
- 41:25People just see it as an economic zone, period.
- 41:27And that's not what we are.
- 41:29We're not an economic zone.
- 41:30When we're talking about Latin America, Mexico, most of those people come in here for economic
- 41:37reasons.
- 41:37Look, Mexico is a conundrum to me because it's like they have a beautiful capital.
- 41:42Mexico City, so modern, so clean, beautiful.
- 41:45and then you start getting away from these cities and it's like Mexico is a majority impoverished
- 41:51nation period you know most these people are making um less than ten dollars a day yes to live
- 42:00so where are you gonna go well my neighbor in the north offers opportunity so they're
- 42:04literally risking their lives just to make money to survive I mean you got people who have to pay
- 42:11medical bills. They're just tired
- 42:13of being oppressed and controlled
- 42:15by the cartels in the area.
- 42:16And, you know,
- 42:17I always put it on the Mexican government. I get
- 42:20pushback. I get a lot of comments from people. But look,
- 42:22just because you're from Mexico doesn't mean you have to
- 42:24ignore the fucking reality. Period.
- 42:27Doesn't mean that what I'm saying is racist.
- 42:28No, it's the truth. Your government
- 42:31has been complicit
- 42:32and they have done nothing to stamp
- 42:34out the power and control of the cartels.
- 42:37It's been going on since the late 70s.
- 42:39This has been a long time.
- 42:40And the U.S. hasn't helped either.
- 42:42Hold on.
- 42:44I was just going to go there because a lot of people want to point the finger at the U.S.,
- 42:48but what are the issues that they say about the U.S. and not helping?
- 42:52They say, oh, well, the U.S. is the number one drug market, so it's your fault because
- 42:56all you guys do is consume drugs.
- 42:58Oh, well, all the guns come from America, so that's the other reason that the cartels
- 43:02are armed.
- 43:02No, this is all bullshit.
- 43:04Okay.
- 43:04Okay, before the opioid epidemic by legal pharmaceutical companies, we didn't have this epidemic of drug abuse that we see.
- 43:15Okay, people got hooked on medications that were prescribed by their doctors.
- 43:21Opioids got people hooked.
- 43:24And then when they started regulating it, they were looking for other highs.
- 43:27When did cocaine come into the country?
- 43:29It was always around, but it was really pushed in the late 70s and the early 80s.
- 43:33Okay?
- 43:33it wasn't around since 17, you know, a hundred.
- 43:37It's like, no, let's just be honest about these things.
- 43:40These markets were created, you know, and they were introduced.
- 43:44And then once, once the cartels figured out,
- 43:46while these Americans really liked this stuff,
- 43:49they did what any other businessman would do.
- 43:51They'd go, I want to, I want to control and expand this market.
- 43:53We're going to make the product even more addicting
- 43:55and we're going to keep pushing it.
- 43:57So it's not always the U.S.
- 43:58Yeah, find a need, build a need.
- 44:00So the thing they ignore is, well, you know,
- 44:03the u.s it's the u.s's fault same thing with the guns yeah sure obama fucked up with the fast and
- 44:07furious thing i don't know what he was thinking with that like oh we'll be able to trace the web
- 44:10how once it gets past that border how are you really going to have control of that
- 44:14but they also they also ignore the straw purchases here in the u.s where the cartels you know they do
- 44:19control the american gangs a lot of people don't want to want to say that but look if a cartel
- 44:25member comes to an american gang here uh american latin gang and they say you're doing this you
- 44:31think that gang's gonna say no cartel you're in mexico you have no control fuck no they're gonna
- 44:35be like yes sir and so they're using uh friends and family with clean records to go out and buy
- 44:42these weapons and then they get smuggled back into mexico um some of it comes from canada now
- 44:47going back to drugs bruce you know let's keep blaming the u.s but let's not also say well why
- 44:53is it that the cartels are trying to enter the european and asian markets with drugs we have 300
- 44:57tons of cocaine annually that is seized by the Europeans that just come from the fucking
- 45:03Mexican cartels.
- 45:04And if we're talking about Venezuela, we had 250 metric tons of cocaine that was shipped
- 45:09out of Venezuela under Venezuelan control while Maduro was there, protected by his government
- 45:15and his military that went to Asia.
- 45:18Asia is the second biggest market right now where their cocaine is worth twice the price
- 45:22of what it is in America.
- 45:24It's a global issue.
- 45:26It's a global issue.
- 45:27So this finger pointing between America and Mexico is stupid to me because like we're neighbors.
- 45:32We should be working together.
- 45:33Yeah.
- 45:35Like, why are we fighting?
- 45:36Why are we blaming the Americans?
- 45:39And why are we blaming the Mexicans?
- 45:40No, it's the people didn't do this.
- 45:43You know, it was the inaction of our governments and complicitness of our governments and the inability for us to come together and work together that got the cartels to the point of where they're at.
- 45:53You know, so I would say it's, you know, both the U.S. and Mexico's fault.
- 45:57And circling back to the drip, drip, drip theory that we've been talking about is exactly what you're saying. It's like over generation, over generation, over generation, this has happened. I mean, you made a comment about Mexico City being this great, big, beautiful city. We have great, big, beautiful cities here. San Francisco is a great, big, beautiful city. No matter what you think about it, it's a beautiful city.
- 46:21Yeah, architecturally, it's awesome.
- 46:23Beautiful city.
- 46:23It's freaking awesome.
- 46:24Any kind of metro city is beautiful here.
- 46:27But as we pan out in America,
- 46:29when you go out to Gilroy, Salinas,
- 46:33go out to Sacramento, Modesto,
- 46:36and stuff like that,
- 46:36still beautiful, still modern,
- 46:38still this, still, you know,
- 46:39still everything is technologically connected
- 46:43to the cities and everything else.
- 46:45The wealth is, the economies are,
- 46:48and all that stuff.
- 46:49And you don't find that in Mexico.
- 46:51You've got Mexico City.
- 46:52You've got all the, you've got the coastal towns that are all-
- 46:56Yeah, a lot of the tourist cities.
- 46:59But you pull back from there and then you hit the ghettos.
- 47:01You have the problems.
- 47:04You have the cities or towns that just don't get any type of that support,
- 47:09but they find their support within those cities.
- 47:13So, I mean, it's really, really a far cry from what we're used to
- 47:17because we're used to go outside of the city,
- 47:20you hit the suburbs and everything is just hunky-dory and we just go along with life.
- 47:25I mean, the difference is if you pull back here, at least we still have power, water, and, you know,
- 47:31methods and means to run an actual small town or city.
- 47:34I mean, we may not like them.
- 47:36Sure, there's pockets of poverty.
- 47:38But what you see with Mexico is you have a concentration of wealth within a small area considerably
- 47:44in relation to the size of Mexico.
- 47:46when you start pulling back you have you know people piecing their houses together you have
- 47:52tents you have you know people looking for work um that they can't find you know again living for
- 48:00ten dollars or less a day and it's it's like well where's where is the help for those people
- 48:06and i'm not saying you look at i mean we look at mexico and we look at this great big country and
- 48:11and going like,
- 48:12it's a beautiful country.
- 48:13I've seen,
- 48:14I've got friends of mine
- 48:15who live in the interior of Mexico
- 48:17where there's no cities and stuff.
- 48:19It's a beautiful country.
- 48:21It has fantastic
- 48:23and just immense resources.
- 48:25Just like the United States.
- 48:26People think it's just all,
- 48:27they think of the spaghetti westerns
- 48:29and all that.
- 48:30Everything is desert.
- 48:32Bandoleros.
- 48:35It's not like that.
- 48:36It's mountains and it's streams
- 48:37and it's this and it's that.
- 48:39It's a beautiful country.
- 48:40I think it's important for people to hold on to their rage and realize that just because someone's being critical doesn't mean we're basically spewing hate and vitriol towards you or your nation.
- 48:56I mean, when your own people living there, when they finally come out and go, you know what, you're kind of right, and this is how it is, and that happens.
- 49:04I've had people come out and say, you know, yeah, this is how it is.
- 49:09You know, and they want the change or looking for it.
- 49:11But if we're talking about Mexico and the U.S., I don't see why Mexico's in the position they are.
- 49:15And people will blame America and say, well, it's because of capitalism.
- 49:17And you're taking it.
- 49:18Well, look, Mexico has many other countries they can deal with economically.
- 49:23What's stopping them from selling their amazing goods and services to other nations?
- 49:27Absolutely.
- 49:28I mean, Ken, the co-host on the show says,
- 49:30you know, South America is probably
- 49:32the greatest emerging nation out of everybody
- 49:34because, man, the resources that they have down there.
- 49:37It's hard to resources.
- 49:39Yeah.
- 49:39I mean, that's going to be an economic power.
- 49:42We could be very much, you know,
- 49:43in 25 years left behind
- 49:45because South America just is ready to explode that way.
- 49:49I don't know.
- 49:49I just think we should support each other more
- 49:51in this hemisphere.
- 49:53And again, I'm going to go back to like,
- 49:55why was there the Coalition of the Americas
- 49:57where we had all these Latin American nations
- 50:00willing to sign and come to an agreement with America
- 50:04to literally, for the purpose,
- 50:06root out drug cartels and the control of cartels,
- 50:09and yet Mexico didn't.
- 50:11Yep.
- 50:12Why?
- 50:13Yeah.
- 50:14I don't get it.
- 50:15So again, we're not going to bash Mexico.
- 50:17It's just...
- 50:17No, I don't want to bash Mexico.
- 50:18And I didn't intend to bash Mexico because...
- 50:20No, you're not.
- 50:21Maybe I am.
- 50:22I'm just saying, I don't want to bash Mexico.
- 50:24I'm just bringing up points based on interviews I've had,
- 50:27people I talk to, people I know, I mean, my friends who have family in Mexico, like I get
- 50:31info just like you do. It's like, this isn't a closed off world. And it goes back to what we're
- 50:36talking about with Iran. As much as they want to try to close their people off from the world,
- 50:39in the modern era, it is too hard to do. So it's like, let's stop ignoring the truth and have real
- 50:46conversations just like we're having. That's what we need to do and realize that, look, the
- 50:51narratives aren't going to work anymore. People are getting smarter or they have more access to
- 50:55information anyway. Eventually, they're going to come across the truth.
- 50:58Right. And you've got a good insight on that. With the information age and everybody having
- 51:05access to this, and I don't care what your social and economic status is, you have a cell phone.
- 51:10I mean, there's very few places in the world that don't have access to the internet and cell phones
- 51:17and this media that we've got going forward now. They might have access to different media and
- 51:22stuff like that's going to steer their way this way or that way.
- 51:25But for the most part, if you're smart enough,
- 51:27you can get past that and get to where you need to be.
- 51:31With that in mind, I don't know which way,
- 51:35and I'm not worried about it.
- 51:36I'm 66 years old.
- 51:38What do I got?
- 51:38Another 15, 20 years on this earth.
- 51:41Damn, morbid Bruce.
- 51:43Black-pilled morbid Bruce.
- 51:45But for younger people, I mean, that are going to be,
- 51:48that have more years than I do on this earth.
- 51:53Where do you think that's going with them?
- 51:55Are we looking at it as more of a one world, one government?
- 51:58Are you worried about that?
- 51:59Or do you think that we're still going to be independent nations
- 52:03forward the only thing i the only thing i the thing i worry about with that direction is the
- 52:10lack of uniqueness and the abolishment of culture that's the problem that i see and that's what we
- 52:16see now like we were just talking about you know the three generations removed
- 52:20um and the usa and how everything is going towards you know open borders no culture
- 52:28or the accusation of anybody in America
- 52:32that is white steals everybody else's culture.
- 52:35And it's like, no, there are differences.
- 52:41America absolutely does have a culture.
- 52:44And if we keep moving towards this agenda,
- 52:49it's being pushed by the WEF, for example,
- 52:53we're not going to have any uniqueness anymore.
- 52:55It's just going to be like,
- 52:56we're going to look like a giant city.
- 52:58what we see in America,
- 52:59like we go from city to city,
- 53:00we're even,
- 53:01we're even losing that uniqueness with our small towns.
- 53:04It's like,
- 53:04you're just going to see it all be best buys,
- 53:08home depots and McDonald's everywhere.
- 53:10Everyone's going to be wearing the same clothes.
- 53:11They're going to have the same talk.
- 53:12It's like,
- 53:13it's going to be a very boring,
- 53:14stale world.
- 53:15If we can't have hold onto our cultures and what makes everything unique.
- 53:19And it's not like we should be fighting against each other.
- 53:22Like my culture is better than yours.
- 53:23You're white.
- 53:23I'm Brown.
- 53:24No,
- 53:24fuck all that.
- 53:25We should be able to enjoy what we have to offer.
- 53:27and if it gets melded together at some point just like it did in america like we could say italian
- 53:33food from italy is not the italian food in america well of course it's not because those immigrants
- 53:37had to work with what they had here and they did a great job at making it's called american
- 53:42italian food i don't care it's delicious i like it whatever you know same thing with mexican food
- 53:47mexican culture some of the music i can't understand it but you can't deny it doesn't
- 53:50have some beat and rhythm to it right you know when you get going to see a bunch of people dance
- 53:54So you're kind of like, yeah, I'm cool.
- 53:55I got a few tequilas in.
- 53:55Let's go.
- 53:56And then, you know, the food.
- 53:58Like, who could deny the food?
- 53:59Let's just be honest.
- 54:00But the problem is that every business that shuts down here in California becomes a taqueria.
- 54:07Yeah, I know that.
- 54:09But see, there's the other danger.
- 54:10It's like, this goes back to what we're talking about with the open borders and America being viewed as an economic zone.
- 54:16Do we want America to become Mexico?
- 54:18Do we want America to become the Middle East?
- 54:22because that seems to be where it's heading.
- 54:25You know, and it's because we've been conditioned to believe
- 54:28that we should feel bad about calling these things out.
- 54:33Like, and especially when it comes to skin color.
- 54:35Oh, you're white.
- 54:36You don't have an opinion.
- 54:37You're an oppressor.
- 54:38You're the reason the world is wrong.
- 54:40Like, no, I don't know how many white people
- 54:43are trying to invade the Middle East right now
- 54:46to set up shop and raise their families.
- 54:48I'm sorry.
- 54:49You know, it's the other way around.
- 54:52It really is.
- 54:53I can see the argument for like, sure, there's some white people would love to live in Mexico,
- 54:57but the reason why your tourism is down is because you can't control what's going on
- 55:01with your cartels.
- 55:03And so my fear is we're going to lose our uniqueness.
- 55:07We're going to lose our cultures across the world, by the way, not just saying America.
- 55:10It's going to happen.
- 55:11It's going to spread that way.
- 55:14And that we're just going to become, our history is going to be wiped away.
- 55:19Nothing's going to exist.
- 55:20It's just going to be like a big reset,
- 55:21which is exactly what they want to do.
- 55:23One world government.
- 55:24They want to reset the world
- 55:25and they want to be able,
- 55:28well, let's just be honest.
- 55:29It's easier to control everybody
- 55:30if they're all of the same mindset
- 55:32and all traveling the same direction, right?
- 55:35But I'm still kind of confused on the cultures
- 55:40because we always going to have culture There always going to be the Mexican culture There always going to be the Middle East culture There always going to be the UK culture There always going to be the Irish culture
- 55:53the Italian culture.
- 55:54I mean, I don't know how you get rid of that sliver
- 55:59that's going to always be in there.
- 56:01Easily, through the soft invasion we're seeing
- 56:04of the mass migration or immigration
- 56:07of Middle Eastern peoples, Muslims,
- 56:10and through open border policies.
- 56:14You know, let's just be honest.
- 56:15I mean, it just comes down to
- 56:17how many babies are white people having?
- 56:20True, true.
- 56:22You're getting bred out.
- 56:23You know, when does the,
- 56:26when does the, let me say,
- 56:28the me and yous that think it's abhorrent
- 56:32for somebody to marry an eight-year-old
- 56:35or a 12-year-old or to rape a woman?
- 56:36Three generations.
- 56:37I mean, but I mean,
- 56:40That's what I'm saying.
- 56:42Yeah, I understand.
- 56:43And again, it'll happen once the culture in place is outnumbered by the invading culture.
- 56:52And then, you know, let's also look at media.
- 56:56How long has it been in movies and TV shows where it's all about mixing races and mixing cultures?
- 57:03Like, you know, brown person marries white girl, white girl marries black guy.
- 57:09And I don't care about that, by the way.
- 57:10I'm just bringing it up as an example of subtle messaging that over time conditions you.
- 57:17I don't have anything against that, Bruce.
- 57:19So I just want to throw that out there.
- 57:21No, I get it.
- 57:21But it is one of the subtleties in messaging that has been pushed in America and the world for a long time.
- 57:30The problem is, is you only really see that acceptance in Western nations.
- 57:36Right.
- 57:36You're not really seeing that in other nations for some reason.
- 57:39Yeah.
- 57:40And if we don't comply with that idea, then we're the racist people.
- 57:45I get it.
- 57:45I get it.
- 57:46Because we see the sensationalization of it in the UK where they're going like, oh, they're raping our women on the streets, you know, the people coming in here.
- 57:55And then those same leaders are going like, well, you know, we've got to let them do what they need to do and this and that.
- 58:02That really, really bothers me a lot.
- 58:05It's wrong.
- 58:05It's wrong.
- 58:07It's wrong.
- 58:07And I don't know if it's going to happen in my time frame, basically, where it's going to be except 15, 20 years from now when I'm watching TV going like, whatever.
- 58:20And I never want to get that way.
- 58:22It's scary.
- 58:25There is no moral argument for any human to make a case for marrying an eight-year-old and raping women.
- 58:35there just isn't i'm sorry you know the only reason you're doing that is because you're trying
- 58:42to capture a culture in a people and you're trying to stamp them out through reproduction
- 58:49that's it you're just trying to impregnate the world to have more people of your ilk born that
- 58:57you can capture condition control program and release out into the world this is a tactic use
- 59:04to do exactly what you and I are talking about,
- 59:07which is to change the culture and change the world
- 59:09to become more of a singular worldview,
- 59:13a singular mindset.
- 59:15You know, like this has been talked about
- 59:18as far back as the Star Trek stories,
- 59:20except they paint a utopian view of what the world could be.
- 59:23Exactly But I don think that what going to happen here because it going to backfire on those who are in control and pulling the strings
- 59:34It just is.
- 59:35I think before I let you go,
- 59:37because we both have to be respectful of time today,
- 59:40is I don't want to say who's going to win,
- 59:43who's going to lose,
- 59:44but where do you see us 10 years from now?
- 59:46Where do you see the U.S.?
- 59:47Where do you see the world 10 years from now?
- 59:50I don't know.
- 59:51I think
- 59:54unless Western nations
- 59:56can stand up
- 59:58to all
- 1:00:00the craziness and realize
- 1:00:02that they got to preserve who they are
- 1:00:04and preserve their cultures, even if it's
- 1:00:06a melting pot, as most people
- 1:00:08will say, if they
- 1:00:10don't start doing that, I
- 1:00:12think you're going to see the destruction of Western nations
- 1:00:14and honestly, you're probably
- 1:00:16either going to see a world controlled by
- 1:00:18communist China or it's going to be
- 1:00:20a world under the thumb of Islam.
- 1:00:24Period.
- 1:00:25And I don't care about how anybody else feels about this
- 1:00:30because you can see it.
- 1:00:31We're on that trajectory.
- 1:00:33And people hate Trump for what he's doing right now.
- 1:00:36Well, if more of our presidents would have treated foreign policy
- 1:00:41the way he has, we wouldn't be having these conversations.
- 1:00:45But yeah, I see the decline of Western nations.
- 1:00:47I see that if we don't stick to our guns, so to speak, put our foot down and protect our own cultures, our own sovereignty, our borders, and our way of life, it's going to be either a world ran by China or it's going to be a world under the thumb of Islam, period.
- 1:01:03Yeah, pretty sobering when you come to that. I like to make the argument that the Western nations seem to be so powerful in their armament and their militaries and their resolve as far as our social issues and people that have moral values that differ than the other values of nations that want to come in and infiltrate our countries.
- 1:01:26but that strength and everything else has a weakness to it.
- 1:01:31And I think that we're just,
- 1:01:33we're just coming to our weaknesses,
- 1:01:36really.
- 1:01:36The only,
- 1:01:37the only thing I can say that might turn the tide quicker is a lot of people
- 1:01:44don't realize that the UK was a huge empire at one time.
- 1:01:49And if you look at their history,
- 1:01:51there are proud people and,
- 1:01:54And there are people that literally didn't take any shit.
- 1:01:57I think it's going to get to the point where you're not going to be able to control the people in the UK much longer.
- 1:02:07And hopefully they rise up and become what they were.
- 1:02:10And that's a people that is just going to be like, nope, this ain't happening.
- 1:02:15We're putting our foot down.
- 1:02:17We're taking our nation and we're going to help our European neighbors take their nations back.
- 1:02:23and also the U.S.
- 1:02:25Let's just be honest.
- 1:02:26I mean, for as fickle as we seem,
- 1:02:29for as much as, you know,
- 1:02:31we're the country of acceptance
- 1:02:33and empathy and whatever,
- 1:02:36we have a history of
- 1:02:38you push us hard enough,
- 1:02:41we're going to snap.
- 1:02:43You're not going to like the retaliation.
- 1:02:46There's a straw that definitely
- 1:02:47breaks the camel's back.
- 1:02:48And I think we're there.
- 1:02:50I think we're like close.
- 1:02:52Yes, I have the same hope that you do.
- 1:02:55I mean, I really do.
- 1:02:56I think that there's a point and we might be at that point.
- 1:03:00You know let circle back to Trump I think it a good thing that he there because of the fact that all of our other leaders seem to lack the moral fortitude or the intestinal fortitude
- 1:03:16to go ahead and push something like this.
- 1:03:18I mean, it's been coming for a long
- 1:03:20time. And whether or not
- 1:03:22he did it or not, I think there was
- 1:03:24an eventual fact that we would have done it
- 1:03:26ourselves. It was going to happen.
- 1:03:28Yeah, it was going to happen. I agree.
- 1:03:30Yeah. Hey, George,
- 1:03:32man, it's been great talking to you, man.
- 1:03:34I love having freaking
- 1:03:35coffee conversation with you, man.
- 1:03:37It was fantastic to have you on the show.
- 1:03:40You could do more of them. Let me know. You got my number.
- 1:03:42Let's just set them up, man.
- 1:03:44You never know. Just say, hey, let's have a chat.
- 1:03:46Yeah, tell everybody about your
- 1:03:47podcast.
- 1:03:50The podcast,
- 1:03:51World of Blaze with
- 1:03:53George Fonz.
- 1:03:55Yeah, no, you can find it at
- 1:03:57worldofblazepodcast.com
- 1:04:00and it's a mix
- 1:04:01of things. It's a mix of my solo episodes
- 1:04:03which can be a little more
- 1:04:05to the point, to say the least.
- 1:04:09You'll see a slightly different personality,
- 1:04:11but I'm also open to talking to everybody.
- 1:04:13I want to hear all sides.
- 1:04:14So if you're interested in something that actually discusses the issues
- 1:04:18while also getting out of my bubble and getting outside echo chambers
- 1:04:22and talking to people across the aisle,
- 1:04:24then I think that's the podcast you would really want to listen to.
- 1:04:28So yeah, I'm going to say that.
- 1:04:30And I'm horrible about social media, but look, I'm on X.
- 1:04:32I'm on Instagram.
- 1:04:34I'm on Substack.
- 1:04:35handle is at fontsblaze. I don't
- 1:04:37push it. I don't know why I don't.
- 1:04:40So you may not see a lot of followers,
- 1:04:41but the podcast does pretty well.
- 1:04:43So yeah, check it out.
- 1:04:45Let me know what you think.
- 1:04:47And John Jemingo would be screaming at you.
- 1:04:49You got to share everything, man.
- 1:04:52Yeah, I mean, look,
- 1:04:53I only have so much bandwidth.
- 1:04:56I've got sponsors I'm trying to work
- 1:04:57with. I still haven't gotten around to
- 1:04:59putting my
- 1:05:00commercials and
- 1:05:03my overlays and whatnot together.
- 1:05:07It's time.
- 1:05:08It's just time, man.
- 1:05:09This isn't a full-time job for me.
- 1:05:11It's just not.
- 1:05:11We need your time, talent, and treasure, guys, out there.
- 1:05:14Give us your time, talent, and treasure.
- 1:05:15We'll take it.
- 1:05:16We'll take it.
- 1:05:17It's just as good as a sponsorship.
- 1:05:19Absolutely.
- 1:05:20I know that you're going on live tonight with the Razor Wire.
- 1:05:23This will probably go out tomorrow,
- 1:05:25but for Razor Wire, you're going on.
- 1:05:28So go out there and listen to George.
- 1:05:30If you have to have more George,
- 1:05:32go see him on Razor Wire.
- 1:05:33I don't know if anyone has to have more of me, but...
- 1:05:36No, it'll be a fun time on RazorWire.
- 1:05:39And you and I, I mean, honestly,
- 1:05:41we're geographically not that far apart whatsoever.
- 1:05:44So yeah, if you want to set more of these up, sure, man.
- 1:05:46I'm always open.
- 1:05:48Absolutely.
- 1:05:48Absolutely.
- 1:05:49And catch us on the morning show on Road Race 101.
- 1:05:53You can get that wherever you want to on X
- 1:05:55and on any other audio podcasting program
- 1:05:58or app that you have.
- 1:06:00and we'll be back again
- 1:06:02probably in another month
- 1:06:03with the weather report.
- 1:06:04Maybe Ken will be back.
- 1:06:05Maybe somebody else will be back
- 1:06:06but we'll definitely have
- 1:06:07another coffee chat.
- 1:06:08So we'll see you later
- 1:06:08and have a good one
- 1:06:09and take care
- 1:06:10and go get yourself
- 1:06:11some Calacum Crab Coffee
- 1:06:12and be American.
- 1:06:15Be American.
- 1:06:16All right.
- 1:06:16And drink it from America's Cup.
- 1:06:18All right.
- 1:06:18Absolutely.
- 1:06:30We'll see you next time.