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E103 Honi & Michael: What Is Faith? How to Live Faith in Action: Unscripted & Profound Conversation · Ascension Alchemists™ — God Led Sacred Marriage For Purpose & Impact. A Couple's Embodied Walk with Presence of God ALMighty

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  SPEAKER_00: Blessings and welcome to the Ascension Alchemist Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome you to a wonderful episode, as this is episode number 103 coming off our 100th episode.
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  SPEAKER_01: And my name is Michael Abramson.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I'm Reverend Honey Warden.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nice to have you all here.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've been very excited to come back together after we recorded the 100th Podcast episode celebration and just getting the flow back in the order here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for those of you that are new, welcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are still continuing.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a community where we gather to celebrate being faithful individuals, believers, trusting the plan of God Almighty over our lives and choosing to live from an unshakable conviction and truth as we have navigated through the spiritual realm.
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  SPEAKER_00: Many, many, many navigations, and we have found that we really want to have a personal relationship with the Creator from the source of all creation, that mighty God presence, and be choosing that over our life in every area of our life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is what this podcast is about, and how we actually are living it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's been a faith-filled, faith-led experience in that we've just been noticing how much in our devotion, our dedication, and our alignment and to embody to the Creator, God Almighty, in source, how everything is moving in its greatest expression.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's been an opportunity for us just to really reflect back and just see the Almighty of what is happening before us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this episode today, we really want to dive into faith because faith is something that Michael and I have had to be stretched into quite a bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it is something that we are aware some individuals have interesting relationships with faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some have very strong faith, some have very shallow faith, some desire to have greater faith, some don't even believe in faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's all kinds of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we want to speak about the role of faith in our lives and how we have come to be where we are because of faith.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I really feel it's important to understand faith in ways that is beyond what the human mind may think because faith is greater than us.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's greater than what the human can possibly imagine.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's that that bridge between the unseen to the seen.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's just really important to become aware that within faith, how important to embody trust, to embody belief, and to choose what you're saying, because they're all components of faith and our ability to really administer it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because faith is it is what I believe our God-given purpose is to be led in the natural truth of who we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, what do you mean by that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, what I mean is like when we look at God's truth, there's no separation between us and God.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that requires the ultimate level of faith.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I remember earlier today you came in, and when you said there's a separation of that truth, I was like, wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it just like paused because I just start thinking of like how much separation of truth there is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then there's that separation of faith.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then how that opens up to such a large area of what I just see, a variable that could be placed into wholeness, because I feel like faith is wholeness, faith is complete, faith is the bridge.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so when I look at those other areas that are not complete in its truth, then it's like where can those be tended within myself and just within where people lack faith?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, when I was saying that today, when there is that separation, there's also that suffering.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Isn't it interesting?
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  SPEAKER_00: When we're separated from the one who created us, the one that birthed us, the one that gave everything to us, when we're not aligned with it, we're in separation with it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So when we're in separation with it, we experience the suffering of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't it seem, and didn't you and I for sure, whether together or before we met, experience the pain, the hurt, the aches, the agony, the God, everything that came with it, the negativity and everything, when the faith was not very strong because we weren't as aligned, we were in separation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So everything else was challenging because then the human was stepping in, trying to do the human thing to to strive to to to again to to do it on its own human strength, and how exhausting that had been.
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel like we were almost giving more faith to the separation and to the illusion of what was being placed forward, whether it was a fear, a worry, and stress, and how debilitating it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then to, like you said, have that all and that awareness this morning, like, oh my gosh, you know, we can be in such a faith-filled place at one moment, but when the tide turns, where have we shifted our focus or shifted our attention?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it is just shift of focus.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's all it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when the when the shift of focus is on fear, fear is also the opposite of faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, but hold on a minute.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can have when our energy is invested in fear, we're having faith in fear.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or just turning the arrow.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's all because so here's faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, here here is fear.
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  SPEAKER_01: I heard faith is fear is fear is faith spelled backwards.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was like a joke, like Yeah, something like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because look at it, because we can most of us put our faith in fear.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, for example, oh my god, what if that happens?
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  SPEAKER_00: What if that happens?
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  SPEAKER_00: What if this happens?
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  SPEAKER_00: So, all of that is a faith, you know, or it's gonna happen that way in that fear, where versus placing the faith in the presence of God Almighty's goodness, fruitfulness over our life.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, so that faith is just a tool, and where are we putting the energy?
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  SPEAKER_01: It reminds me of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've heard that where it says fear is just faith in the wrong direction or in the opposite direction.
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  SPEAKER_01: Literally, it's like we pointed our attention to all the what-ifs and given it that permission to focus more on the fear.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then all of a sudden, when we uplift ourselves by that belief, that trust, that God Almighty and open ourselves even greater than what we could even imagine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't that faith just feel like it's an area you just want to continually manage, continually flow through your life and keep in that existence because it just feels so uplifting and illuminating?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I got a challenging question for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about faith here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you can have a faith of let's say, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna have a faith on okay, I'm gonna win the lottery, for example, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a faith in that, but there's no God Almighty in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's just this, there's just this faith somehow placing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I want to make a distinction here what you and I are talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, because I found there's different levels of faith here.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a deep conviction of faith, and there's this superficial faith, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's everything in between, layered.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also the faith is coming from where sometimes we have faith, we put the faith on other people.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what we are leaning on, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So so when you were speaking about that, I was saying, okay, that the faith that is placed, you and I are not talking about faith placed on other people, we're not talking about faith placed on cars, we're not talking about faith placed on, for example, winning a lottery.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't that's not what we're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: The reason why I'm addressing that is because we're not even talking about faith where you have to be in some sort of religious building in order to experience faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: What you and I are referring to is that that relationship, right, that is very hopeful because you're gonna have to have hope in order to have faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you don't have hope, you cannot experience faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: That personal, internal relationship that is with on the inside, with the presence of God Almighty.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what we're speaking of.
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's devoting, surrendering, and giving everything to God Almighty.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel that is the ultimate glory because when you know it's not the human, but it's the divine, the God Almighty presence that's allowing it to come through, and we're the vessel that is bringing forth what I feel is the creation that we get to experience, it becomes beyond what words can can describe.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you know why I made that distinction, Michael?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I was still waiting for the question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because no, because like you can have faith, you put the faith in your government, you put the faith in the politics, you put the faith in your banking system, you put the faith in your religion, you pay the this is this is why I wanted to make that sure distinction.
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  SPEAKER_00: The question was like, okay, question is where are people putting their faith on?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I feel like I really feel that's a great question if you were to ask someone, like, where am I putting my faith on?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, where are you putting your faith on?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just added here.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said to you all on this listening.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel a lot of it is conditional based on beliefs, based on what they trust, based on what they're expressing, because that's been what has been built in our society.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yet when we place our faith on what's greater than us in our full embodiment of our God-given nature, that's where I feel the magic starts to happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's where I feel like we've been witnessing that in that devotion, in that expression of really having a closer relationship with God so that it demonstrates itself forth.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, where do you see yourself within yourself?
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  SPEAKER_00: Where do you see yourself?
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  SPEAKER_00: Where was your relationship with faith before?
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  SPEAKER_00: And you can speak about where's your relationship with him, how you came to know faith.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I will start to say this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Faith is always, there's always been a relationship with myself and faith because I feel deep within there's been a trust within myself.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'll just give an example.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like when I go travel, and when I go travel and I take a book bag and I go to a different country, or I go outward, because the way I was brought up, I feel I was brought in a container where there are good people out there, there are maybe some not so nice people, but where you're being placed, there's a guidance around you, and there is a there's a higher creation that is always looking out after you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I felt that when I traveled and went out to the world, there was a faith, no matter where I went, wherever I go, my intuition would guide based on Was it trust or was it faith?
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  SPEAKER_01: I I I would say both because I trusted, and then I also had a higher faith that I was being guided from that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now as I started to evolve deeper into my relationship with God Almighty, that's when I saw and still feel this higher ordinance of faith come to a level that I've never seen before.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like do you think you're understanding, like you're beginning to understand what faith is from a whole different lens that you had never seen before?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, because I'm starting to really recognize that when I'm giving my complete 100% focus on faith, then those old fears don't have an impact on me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there were points in my life where maybe I was a little more wild or crazy, and those fears weren't as let's say in my face.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden, as I met discomfort or challenging or shifting or transformation, and those fears start to rise, it was interesting to see where my faith was because as you've seen, there's been many times where I've given my attention to my insecurity, my reality to the fears.
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  SPEAKER_01: And all of a sudden, when I did that, it was like, well, where is your faith within yourself, which can be trust within, but where's that higher ordinance of beyond you that created you, what God said about you?
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  SPEAKER_01: And now I'm seeing like, wow, coming into that and really feeling that, and really especially this month of August of recognizing the first couple weeks where faith had to really be utilized in some of these areas of discomfort.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now two weeks later, I'm like, wow, now I'm seeing why these dry seasons or these times that may feel like they're a bit challenging.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's our test to use this faith and keep using it, whether positive, negative, comfort or discomfort, because it's our ability to keep moving forward and then see these seeds reap into the fruits by continuing to connect back to that faith of God Almighty, that faith of believing, that faith of trusting, that faith of speaking favor.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like to me, that practice of it is like anything else, a muscle that the more it's been placed each day, then it's like it almost feels like magic when you start to watch it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because then it it uh it starts to show things that you would never believe in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like all of a sudden, situations you're walking into and you're like, oh wow, what a beautiful opportunity when I didn't even expect this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: How about yourself when you look back in your life and you look now and you look at your level of faith and now where you're sitting right now?
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  SPEAKER_00: I would say faith has always been there.
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  SPEAKER_00: However, what I'm super clear on, it was a not an active faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was more like a, I would say, a dormant faith where I am consciously, deliberately choosing in awareness faith and welcoming for it to be actually practiced and lived.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the big distinction in me, in my experience with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So having a personal relationship with faith, understanding faith, understanding faith, overstanding faith, you know, the revelation of faith, how deep faith is, how it was very surface level, I would say, at some areas, yet there was like a knowing of the depth of it inside of me that I couldn't reach before.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I found through my life I've had these experiences where, for example, in these very, very dark, challenging moments where something far greater with the presence of God Almighty came and you know what we call miracles.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did I was I practicing faith?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like for example, when I was in the Federal car crash when I was seven, did I practice faith in that exact second when I was smushed in the car and you know, smoke coming out, car getting ready to fire?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I didn't practice faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: It it was it it that presence was ignited and it came.
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  SPEAKER_00: But out of that, that communicated to me, this is here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now start living from faith, but I couldn't still access it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or like you know, when I mean there's so many stories.
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  SPEAKER_00: When, for example, the bomb didn't hit our house.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did I practice faith?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I didn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just so happened, then it showed me, wow, like there is this greater presence that's watching over you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's let's trust that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let me start trusting, having faith that I'm gonna be okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I always struggled with safety for because of so many horrific life experiences.
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  SPEAKER_00: So mine didn't come about like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was more like that's what I'm saying, it was more dormant somewhere that I it was evidential, so I had to start learning about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it didn't really come till way later.
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  SPEAKER_00: When uh Keon, about 26 years ago, when when I turned to God and prayed and He was completely healed, that was when I first actually awoken to wow, because I asked and it was answered, and it was so miraculous.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's when I understood, okay, now I think like there is this thing of I couldn't even name it faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then there's this thing that I gotta start trusting.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there is a hope.
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  SPEAKER_00: If there's something horrible, I can actually lean on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So begin to have that personal relationship, but it even took, it took way later, even after my NDE, it was my NDE that when I after January 8, 2012, when I was sent back in my body, when I was asked to start traveling to getting on the road on all those countries, that's when it was, I remember, I remember the word saying, you must live on us.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was complete faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I would say that's when it was like I couldn't question it, I had to trust it all the way.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was no option.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's when my journey with that, and it still didn't even take through till the last couple of years.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm so grateful you you expressed that in such specifity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because growing up, I remember hearing this word faith a lot, and it very it became very religious.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like what faith do you believe in?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: And it would turn to religion again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it was like nothing personal against religion, but that even confused me more because every religion had a different dogma or a different level.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that felt like it like or different beliefs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Different beliefs.
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  SPEAKER_01: So then it like it like divided faith up.
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  SPEAKER_01: But just as you said, it seems like there's moments in life that capture your attention and it awakens that faith in you or it stirs that faith in you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like, you know, we each have those personal experiences, and even to the viewers out there that may be listening, I'm like, wow, what are the moments in my life where something happened and I turned around and I was like, you know, by the grace of faith, you know, there's been moments that has accelerated me beyond any religion, beyond any belief, beyond any area, because it was something greater than beyond anything you read, beyond it, it was it's such a direct experience that you you you couldn't even put the name on it faith at that time, other than what what is this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Then recognizing, wow, maybe this is faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like you said, some would say, Okay, what.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is your faith, you know, which would be coming from a religion?
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: That means who do you believe in?
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you've had your own direct personal experience, then that direct personal experience is from within, is is ignited so that you can begin to have this communication, conversation, direct connection, so that you can actually begin to practice what faith actually is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they're layered.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's it's so multi-layered in this.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know what it gets me so excited about faith.
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  SPEAKER_01: The more we practice faith, right, it gets God Almighty's attention.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And just imagine that, like the more we're giving faith to the Creator, then the Creator is supplying even more back to you.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: Hold on a minute.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's something I learned.
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  SPEAKER_00: What excites me about faith is as I've come to more much more recently, like really understanding it.
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  SPEAKER_00: The more I am in that personal relationship with the presence of mighty God's presence, that I am present, that pure Christ light, right?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: The more I'm coming intact, the more I'm putting my faith on that, the more I'm choosing that, the more I'm deliberate with that, the more I'm aware of that, the more I'm changing on the inside, the more happier I am, the more joyous I am, the more trusting I am, the more easeful I am, the more my life is feeling better, and my attention is not on anyone else or any circumstance or any government or any banking system or any astrological science or anything like that.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: The more reassured I am on the inside, I'm more secure, my nervous system is better, my health is better, my sleep is better, my relationship, my love with you is better, my my expression of my gifts are coming out more, I'm more clear.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's amazing to witness that how how much abundant this faith is that I never know, and it is so independent.
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  SPEAKER_00: I do not need to be in a building to have this faith, I don't need to be with religious leaders to have this, I don't need to be with anyone to tell me how to have this because it is a personal relationship, and out of that is the the the it's not even hope anymore, the trust in life, not just for me, for all around me, is greater, my acceptance is more non-judgment, it is amazing, and the gratitude, like wow, this faith was all of this was, and then from that, from that, not doing it because I want something from God Almighty.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm now seeing how God Almighty is blessing me the way I'm experiencing the blessing on the inside coming from inside of me out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like wow, why doesn't anyone ever talk about faith like this?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's such a phenomenal topic, and I'm grateful that you expressed it that way because just by hearing that, and I don't know how your listeners are hearing right now, but is that truth for you too?
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you experiencing the same or is it just me?
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm experiencing the way.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna ask the you know, people that are feeling it, doesn't just by hearing honey share that, doesn't that inspire you to see how you can live more of a faith-filled life, a faith-led life?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because in this a faithful life, right?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: Faithful life that by living in that, how the focus becomes less on the fear, but on the creation itself that is being emanated from within.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: And to me, that's like wow.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: And that means there's so much more within that I couldn't even understand or realize because that faith is limitless.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: That faith is wholesome, that faith isn't it connection, Michael.
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  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't it seem like doesn't it seem like actually, can I tell you something?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: What it seems like it's it's one of my four keys to master your health.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you do have faith in that yes, faith is the final key.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's awesome.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I won't reveal the other three, but but that is like that key.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: When you said key, it is a master key because it's a master key because it opens the door to everything that allows us in our complete oneness with Creator.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, don't you feel Jesus did say seek the kingdom within first, and all things will be added on to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: But to seek that, you gotta have faith to seek that.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: So it starts with faith.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Faith in the fullness of your heart, faith in the fullness of your belief, faith in the fullness of your trust, and what I really appreciate: faith in the fullness of your actions, words, and thoughts, because the more that is moving through us, I feel like that's the highway that's coming through us, that's opening ourselves up to travel wherever we choose to go.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a faith-filled opening of saying, wow, allow God Almighty to come right on through.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: And faith is the key that's not allowing any resistance.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: But hold on.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Any blockage or any obstruction or anything that's coming in.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because when imagine this, when we're in faith, right, just listen, when we're in faith, we're not in fear.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: So when I say faith, like 100% faith, I'm not talking like 95, I'm not talking about, well, I'm a I I think so, but what you're saying, you when we are in, wait, when we are in the look, when we are in the trust of that faith.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: So that means that faith is exercised.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: Meaning when we are in the full trust and alignment of faith, right?
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: There's no fear, we're unshakable, we're unstoppable, we're in our full that's what conviction is.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: We're in our full presence now.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: Take passion, purpose, creativity of what we're here to expand through us and let that faith go through it.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's like we're seeding all that has been placed within us and really excites me because then it seems like wow, there's nothing stopping us when we're fully aligned in our devotion, trust, belief, hope, and pure alignment with faith.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: See, it's like faith changes the way you see things because your mess.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: So when I look at my life, a lot of the mess that I've gone through, my mess has become my message.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: So your faith or your pain has become your purpose.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: So faith gives us a lens that's so much larger than the lens of our human.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then when it is it's it's lived to trust, there's this, so you know, you know, actually, this is funny, it's coming to me now.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know how we go set up a trust for our homes and cars and stuff like that?
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: We want to have some kind of trust, right?
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right, so it's almost like a guarantee, right?
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: But when the trust is placed on God Almighty, that's the ultimate guarantee.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: There it is.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hallelujah.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's your new bank.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's what you understand.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's the new bank, right?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, but but the bank of God always existed, was it's given.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: We don't we don't need to earn it, we don't need to, you know, we're not worried about the interest, anything like that, because it's infinite.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'll take it to a step further.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: If the bank of God is already here and there's infinite abundance and infinite prosperity already readily available for us, how do we obtain it?
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta have faith.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: Bingo.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: So now when we have to have faith, imagine this faith now moving into those areas.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: But hold on, hold on.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: But let me just finish.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Let me just finish.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: Moving into those areas that we don't feel faithful, or we don't feel trustworthy, or we don't feel secure, because somewhere there's been pockets of pain or hurt, pockets of resistance that are blockage, and now it's like, oh, wait a minute.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: What happens if those pockets or those areas are now my new territories to accomplish to open up even a greater flow of my natural inherent divine abundance?
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: And faith becomes my compass to open even greater flow of God's energy to create what's already been seated in our purpose and passion to share it.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like to me, it's like, wow.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: Then it's like, do I go on a treasure hunt of all the areas that I don't have faith in, or I don't have trust in.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: Can I can I ask you a question?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: What if, what if, I'm just putting this out there.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: What if this is, by the way, a very different uh podcast, isn't it?
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, by the way, all of you that are listening here, you're literally with us.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: This is like one of those conversations.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Michael and I did not plan what we're gonna talk about, so this is our coming out.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: This is three in the morning, or sometimes having tea.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes Mike and I just get in these deep, we actually have these kinds of very deep conversations, like we're just having it right now.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: So let's go back to the question.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: So when we have this, okay, so when we place this faith in God Almighty, right?
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: We we we place it.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: We can place it that, but doesn't mean it's actually exercised.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_00: This is also important.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: So we can place it, but let it just sit there and not do anything about it.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: So faith has one second, faith has to be active, right?
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: Place into active absolutely action.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: So what what that means when faith is placed into action, it becomes it becomes a lived experience of expect expectancy.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: You see what I'm saying?
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: So because the question becomes can you just have faith?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Just have faith, right?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: And not experience anything in life.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't understand that question.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so what I'm saying is, okay, there are people that might say, okay, I have faith, right?
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: But they're they haven't taken the action of faith to to be able to witness the faith lived as an experience.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: I guess it depends on what degree they are choosing, because sometimes we can be so simple and just say, I have the faith that tomorrow is gonna be a better day than today.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it can be so simple.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Or I believe But they may say that.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, wait, wait.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: They may say that I have faith, but suddenly like they're walking with anxiety, they're walking with worry.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's not faith.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm trying to distinguish this because you can say the word.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I would look at clearly the definition.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: Depends how you define faith.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: Faith that I feel is the greater expression of you in God for.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like when you look at faith, we can't look at faith from a human lens.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: Faith is greater than what we could even possibly imagine outside of us, within us, that is completely connected in oneness with God.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: To me, that is faith.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Anything less than that could be hope, could be maybe, or could be from a different lens.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: I feel what we're speaking about is from the highest lens, faith is in accordance with God.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_01: And when that you said placed into action, to me, when that's placed into action, that's when we're actually allowing beliefs to be led in faith-based beliefs versus fear-based beliefs.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: I I pause right there.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: So what you just said, when we place our faith in the presence of God Almighty, something outside of the human, not human, but and yeah, so we're saying God Almighty, like I can't, okay, I don't see a way, but I'm putting this in your hand.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: I have faith that you will handle this, right?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: So then you're releasing that latch in you, you're letting it go, right?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because God Almighty can't do the works in you if you're trying to do it through the human.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: So you can't open the way for the presence of God Almighty to come through you to do the very thing that you are wanting to take place.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: So when we put the faith in God Almighty, the exercise of it would be then we let go of our own control, number one.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: Number two, we rest assured that it's taken care of, right?
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: Then we we move into trust that it has its own time, right?
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: We then also what?
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: We then open space for it to come into our life, so we we get out of its way.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_01: And there's something that you said so important.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: We have to trust.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: And trust requires faith because we have to start within ourselves to trust our internal confidence, our internal guidance.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't believe we can have faith without trust.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: But hold on a minute, you just said something interesting.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, for example, there are days that I feel insecure, right?
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I can say, God Almighty, I'm putting my faith on you.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: I I feel insecure about this decision, but I trust you greater.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: So that's not my trust, because I'm I'm saying I'm not even I don't have that trust in me, but I have the trust in you greater.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: So you're putting it outside of yourself versus inside of yourself.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: What happens?
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm putting the no, I'm putting the trust in God.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, gotcha.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: You just missed me, missed what I just said.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: No, I I heard what you said.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: I I was just bringing the fact that because you were saying you have to have the trust.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, you have to have trust in the working of God Almighty.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because I like some of the people.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: But when I say trust, even before God, there has to be this belief of trust.
• 39:14
  unknown: Correct.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm talking about.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's what you're speaking about.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm speaking like before you can even have it, you have to be able to feel you have to be able to trust.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's what you're trying to do.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm talking about.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's because if we can't, if we're not able to trust, we're not even getting any close to faith.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: So we're on the same page.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, we're on the same page.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: But you you understood what I was saying?
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because there have been times like because of, let's say, my own weakness, yeah, right, I am me in the human form, unable to trust.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's but when I put the faith on God Almighty, I know I know that presence is far great.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: I can trust that far greater than me.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel that's why it's so important what I said earlier is the areas within ourself that all of us are going through that we don't trust or we have insecurities.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: Where can we fill that up with God Almighty's trust and faith so that those areas then dissolve and then we're able to move through without personal fears, personal insecurities?
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: And it just it just really opens the door up to what I see in starting the day, ending the day, reminding yourself through the day of how faith-filled, faithful, faith-led actions, life, thoughts, feelings, and emotions are the essence and really what I feel is the driving force that can allow our greatest joy, happiness, peace, and love and creation to fruitfully be spread.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: And how a lot of times we may be disconnected from that faith merely by a shift of attention and focus.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, and you know what you just said, I was seeing from the heavenly realm.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: In order to receive the blessings of heavenly realm, it requires for you to have faith.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it really requires.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: That means it exists, that means I'm capable of receiving it, that means I have the capacity to receive it, that means I can, right?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: So faith is that going back, it's like the key that allows this door to open so you can experience it.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because at the end of the day, what is then what is what is this all about?
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: We are in a human form, right?
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: God Almighty chose us to be in a human form for a purpose.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_00: Every single one of us is seated to deliver its purpose, and this purpose is orchestrated by our own creator for for its purpose.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: So this purpose has all of these treasures put in it, but these treasures inside of us can't come out until some of it sometimes it's come out, like in my exit experience.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes like it's you when you go out and travel, you know, it it allows it to come out.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: Time capsules being released exactly for us.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so at some point, this faith is a tool where it allows us to welcome these treasures to come forward onto this planet so that we can experience the blessing, and the blessings can literally be shared on earth at the end of the day.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it's all about.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: Simple.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: So we started this podcast almost a year ago, Michael.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: Did did you have faith?
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know why?
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because I knew there would be no stopping.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: How did you know that?
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: I know you know that I know.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's it's it's called an internal guidance.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's called internal awareness.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: What I know is when something is started, there's a passion, there's a commitment, there's a determination and devotion.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I had complete faith because even in the times where I did not feel like doing it, or the times that just felt like that I was maybe not in the proper presence, there was still a faith behind it because I know it's not me, it's not we.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: There's a greater force coming through us that's being positioned at this perfect moment.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: What do you want to know about me during that time?
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, love.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: So I why are you looking like that?
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: Why are you looking like that?
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm curious what your answer is.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: No, because for me, it was like I actually had more curiosity than faith.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: When it came out, there was this, there was this thing, okay, we gotta do podcasts, but did I have faith I can do it?
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: I I can't say that I did, but I was more curious and bold.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: Let me just try it out.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: So but what was greater in me was somehow the presence of God Almighty wanted to come through podcasts to reach to reach people.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: So somehow you and I can share from our lived experience individually and together through this podcast, so maybe other people can can relate and they don't feel they're alone, they don't feel they're the only one.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh, there are other ones like that.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how it started.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: But here we are 11 months later, almost coming to 9, 6, September 6th would be one year.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_00: Can you just can you just like like recognize that it reached 67 countries, 450 cities, about 34% of Earth in the countries this reached?
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, was that faith in action?
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's what?
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because it like because I really got to chat.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you're on your podcast, you talked any about it.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like I did a little bit, but here we are, because since the recording, we haven't had this conversation blown away.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: To me, I feel it's a bit surreal because the experience is very new, and to be a hundred percent honest, time has been moving so fast that to look at a year, a couple months, how many episodes, it just feels very surreal because there's been so much happening in these 11 months, and to look at what we've been doing, what we've been expressing, and then to imagine just it going out to that many, of course, it's like it's phenomenal, but sometimes it's almost like stopping and reflecting at a moment to see it hitting me because it felt you mean like digesting, digesting it.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I've digested it either.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_01: So, like when you ask me, well, aren't you excited, aren't you happy?
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, it's floored me in just the awareness of like, wow, but because of just sitting and digesting it, it hasn't like fully overcome because I personally, it just feels like the time and space in this reality is at a whole new level I've ever experienced in my life.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe when I'm on the plane next week with my mom flying to London, I can be like, wow, because it's just been a huge leap of to me consciousness and just personal evolution that has been a gift to share these messages with each individual and just the all and wow of how is it even possible of the technology and how it's even accessible to other places around the world.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I I just want to share this.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: When I said yes, and I said, Michael, we were doing podcasting, you're like, What?
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we're gonna podcast.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why, we're just gonna do it.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: We're answering a call.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I just put my faith in somehow responding to this.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: And isn't it true when we can't see?
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: Truly, Michael, we can't see with our human self.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: But when we put that, when we have some intuition and like that whisper of God inside of us, and we we give the trust to that, we put the faith on that, God will take it to a place that we couldn't have ever imagined.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why I said the very beginning It's amazing.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: What happens if faith is the bridge between the unseen world to the seen world?
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: Not what if it is.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I just I'm playing that.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm playing what if so people can be like, wow, oh yeah, what if you know, what if, as in like, uh from all that has been unseen, all the visions, all the possible creations, all the passion that's like inside that's ready to be unleashed, and it's like it's already there, and all of a sudden the bridge is the faith, the what if of like ah versus the what if?
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta change the what if as in like the excitement.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_00: So what if, wait a minute.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: What if, Michael, this podcast?
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, give me something big.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, give me something big.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_01: What if this podcast reaches someone in another country that personally invites us to their presidential presidential headquarters and say, this message inspired me so greatly that I had to actually want to meet you in person because when I listened to you, it actually activated a truth in me that I want to share personally with each of you because on a phone call would be too impersonal.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm sending you a private jet right now so that you can come exactly to my presidential quarters and give you an honorary badge so that we can now speak on the behalf of not only this country but this world.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I don't know if I can top that.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's amazing.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I can't.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's my faith of what I know is gonna happen eventually.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's I love it.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see how clear and full faithful led?
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_00: That was beautiful.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to compete, you can just accept that and and just call that you there's no competition.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, when you when you live a faith-filled life, there there's actually no competition.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know what's yours is yours, and what's yours is yours.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for whoever is listening to fully fulfill the desire and the wish and dream that we will know that it's going to happen one day because that's a faith-filled, faith-led, faithful knowingness that's going to happen.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, all of you that are on this call, you can hear on this date before our year.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: On August, mark this today's August 19th.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: So here's my um, here's mine.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe so out of this call, somebody that's listening reaches out to somehow puts us in touch with Stephen Dyer of a CEO.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: And Stephen says, I want to meet both of you.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: You talked about faith, and I want to really, really understand your lens of faith.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: I want to know where did you get that?
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: How did this NDE experience come about?
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: And out of that, I can really talk about the presence of Christ and really share how this is a personal experience that this the mighty God presence is accessible to all of us and it is personal.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_00: And when you have that personal experience, everything else is revealed to you.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: The revelation is inside, it's not on the outside.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: That would be mine.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_00: Both of us are just you?
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_00: Both of us.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, because we're having this faith, because you're part of the faith, right?
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, by the way, speaking of faith, I'm gonna leave this, Michael.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about this.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: The day you and I met, November 16, 2016, right?
• 51:58
  unknown: Right.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that morning.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: Wanna tell the audience what I said before I met you?
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: I think you should say it.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that morning when I got off the phone with Valerie, I said, I said, God, whoever is the man in counter that's supposed to be on the land with me, bring him now.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: I claimed it, I said it, and I released my faith.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I met you that night.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: Hallelujah.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_01: Hallelujah.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I call it a faith-filled, led, answered prayer.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: That was it.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_00: I I released it, we but I had such a conviction.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_00: It was again that that Holy Spirit that was over me, released it.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_00: I had no attachment, I had a complete knowing it's here.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: So, doesn't that inspire you to lead more faith-filled design?
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_00: Hallelujah.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_00: So, this is for you, and this we we we really invited you to a conversation.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: This is usually how me and Michael's conversations together when we're in this space.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're not like in a space of teaching anything where we're just really going deep and sharing and trusting what we shared today, brings some giggles to you, and also some in some inquiry for you to see what is your relationship with faith?
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_00: How do you define faith?
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: How has faith played a role in your life?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_00: And please share it with us.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: We would love to hear.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: And how when you're living from faith, are you bothered with people who don't agree with you?
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: Are you bothered with people who reject you?
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: Are you how you handle people not accepting you?
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a really, really important part.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: And also to know for those that need assistance in being led in a higher faith, a God-given nature, that both of us as mentors, both of us that we can help individuals guide them, are present for you right here and now.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_00: So we happily, if you want to go deeper into faith, you really want to be able to live from this place.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: Michael can I can easily lead you either in our six weeks or 12 weeks.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: We can do it individually or together.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_00: Just reach out to us so we can customize it for you.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_01: At ascensionalchemists.com.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I believe that's it.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you, love, for this faith-filled, wonderful conversation.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: I feel so charged.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: How do you feel?
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_01: I feel amazing, honey.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like time has flown by so quickly that now is time to allow our faith-filled energy to be expressed outward as we thank each and every one of you for once again joining us in this time.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're so grateful to every one of you that have taken us through 103 episodes that we keep filling our faith and love to each and every one of you and to the communities that we know we're here to serve from the truth of our heart.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_00: And we're going to keep going and keep sending your messages to us.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: And if this actually impacted you, please reshare it with somebody else.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: This is how it's going to help us, together with you as a community, create better earth in this place.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: So much love to all of you.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_01: And many blessings.