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The Insiders Podcast: What is the Biggest Obstacle in the Way of a Chiefs 3-Peat? · NFL Game Previews

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Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Judy Batista, I am
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Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero. A busy week wrapped up around the NFL
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Speaker 1: with mini camps coming to it and Judy. But as
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Speaker 1: you know, the NFL never sleeps, and neither do we
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Speaker 1: Panthers running back. Cuba Hubbard going to be a guest
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Speaker 1: on the show tonight. How's that new look offense coming?
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Speaker 1: Along with Dave Canalis? What does Cuba have to say
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Speaker 1: about Bryce Young? Brian Baldinger also going to be on
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Speaker 1: the show. There's some big name free agents still available.
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Speaker 1: What are the best fits for them? As we lead
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Speaker 1: up the training camp, Baldy will help break us, help
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Speaker 1: us break that down. But let's start in Kansas City
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Speaker 1: where no, this is not a rerun. The Chiefs again
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Speaker 1: getting a whole lot of diamonds. What do you think
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Speaker 1: of those rings, Judy? The next one.
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Speaker 2: That they win, which will probably very very soon, it's
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Speaker 2: going to reach all the way to like their fingernails,
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Speaker 2: that's how big those rings are.
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Speaker 1: Now, if you need like a paper weight on your desk,
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Speaker 1: I think that those would be very effective. And guess what,
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes not done building this dynasty.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, special Tommy, something we always talked about was winning
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Speaker 3: the back to back championship, and you said, it's a
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Speaker 3: small group of teams, and the kind of puts that
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Speaker 3: stamp that we are we are this dynasty now and
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Speaker 3: we can kind of keep building on that now and
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Speaker 3: see how specially I can really get.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Costco sells these right, buy three rings, you gonna
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Speaker 1: get half off or something like that. Hopefully they've got
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Speaker 1: another one. With the way that these guys are going,
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelson company all celebrating. You know who
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Speaker 1: else was there and I think this is really cool.
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Speaker 1: Bj Thompson, the young defensive lineman who just a week
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Speaker 1: or so ago went to the hospital had had a
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Speaker 1: seizure and gone into cardiac arrest or at a special
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Speaker 1: teams meeting, got out of the hospital over last weekend.
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Speaker 1: He's there looking dapper. Yo else is always dapper? Our
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Speaker 1: guy Baldy who is with us right now? Baldy. We
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Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs. They have talked.
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Speaker 4: Openly from literally minutes after that Super Bowl win over
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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers about going for the three pet
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Speaker 4: In your mind, what is the biggest obstacle if one exists?
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Speaker 1: For the Chiefs to accomplish something that is as difficult
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Speaker 1: as anything in NFL history.
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Speaker 5: Well outside of Andy Reid and his wife Tammy just
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Speaker 5: checking out and going to their home at Dana Floyd, California.
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Speaker 5: I would say they've got four players on their team
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Speaker 5: that have largely been very healthy, and I think they're
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Speaker 5: in dispenser. And I would say, in no particular order,
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Speaker 5: I would say, look, if Travis Kelsey misses any time,
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Speaker 5: that could hurt them. If Chris Jones misses any time,
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Speaker 5: stone Cold Jones is the leader.
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Speaker 6: Of that defense.
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Speaker 5: If Creed Humphrey, who's basically staffed every single ball to
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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes over the last three years, and of course
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Speaker 5: the quarterback Homes, if they would miss any amount of time,
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Speaker 5: I would say that would hurt their chances because those
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Speaker 5: four players, to me, are the rock of this.
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Speaker 6: Team and kind of the pillars that this team is
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Speaker 6: built upon.
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Speaker 2: First of all, let me start by saying that I
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Speaker 2: have already picked them to three pete, so I don't
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Speaker 2: really think anything.
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Speaker 7: Is going to trip them up. But if I had
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Speaker 7: to pick something other.
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Speaker 2: Than I agree with Baldy, health is always the number
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Speaker 2: one factor. They have a really weird schedule this year.
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Speaker 2: They're the Kansas City Chiefs. Everybody wants to see them.
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Speaker 2: They play on every day of the week this year
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Speaker 2: except Tuesday. So there's not going to be the normal
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Speaker 2: rhythm of the season. They're just not going to have
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Speaker 2: normal weeks. This is a really veteran team, It's a
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Speaker 2: really veteran coaching staff. They can adapt through anything, but
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Speaker 2: that could throw a team off, and especially as you
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Speaker 2: point out, if there are health issues, having a lot
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Speaker 2: of short weeks could become an issue.
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Speaker 1: I love that Baldy and the four indispensable players manage
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Speaker 1: to get an offensive lineman in create Humphrey. Don't say that,
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Speaker 1: fathercohol Remember if Mahomes misses a time this season, the
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Speaker 1: backup in Kansas City, Carson Wentz. Baldy, stick around. We're
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Speaker 1: going to get back to you in just a little
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Speaker 1: bit here. We've got other things. A lot still on
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Speaker 1: the docket leading up to the course of training camp.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of business, a lot of deals to
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Speaker 1: get done or not to a tongue by LAWA, the
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Speaker 1: Miami quarterback is certainly one of them. He talked in
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Speaker 1: his contract situation during the off season.
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Speaker 8: Am I concerned about it? I'm not concerned about it.
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Speaker 8: But there's a lot of discussions you know that we've
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Speaker 8: we've had that. You know, we just are trying to
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Speaker 8: move that thing into their direction where we can both
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Speaker 8: be happy.
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Speaker 6: Personally.
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Speaker 1: Does your agent update you like every time they are talks?
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Speaker 8: Well, my my agent updates me. But for me, I
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Speaker 8: don't like updates like every time. Like, you don't got
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Speaker 8: to tell me the little things. Just tell me things
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Speaker 8: that that matter. Are we getting to work we want to?
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Speaker 8: Or are we not?
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Speaker 9: That's it.
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Speaker 8: Did you think there'd be more progress at this point, Well,
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Speaker 8: I think there's been a lot of progress at this
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Speaker 8: point from where we started. There's been a lot of progress. Now,
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Speaker 8: you know, you can ask the other question, then why
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Speaker 8: aren't we seeing, you know, in agreement.
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Speaker 9: Well, that's the tough part about it. That's why it's
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Speaker 9: it's business.
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Speaker 8: That's why you got one side and the other trying
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Speaker 8: to work to meet in the middle.
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Speaker 1: So too made those comments a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm also as thrown as everybody else every
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Speaker 1: time I see the video that that is actually to
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Speaker 1: a tongue by Lowo. But he made those comments Judy
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Speaker 1: prior to Trevor Lawrence getting his new deal to his
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Speaker 1: due about twenty three million dollars on his fifty year
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Speaker 1: option this year. Miami, of course has the leverage of
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Speaker 1: a couple of franchise tags. They could apply beyond that,
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Speaker 1: but this was always a deal that, when it gets done,
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Speaker 1: is going to be fifty million plus for two a
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Speaker 1: tongue of by Lowa. And you certainly can make an argument,
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Speaker 1: Judy that with the Trevor Lawrence deal, fifty five is
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Speaker 1: now the floor for Tua in Miami, there's no question.
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Speaker 2: And two, when he made those comments, he was antsy.
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Speaker 2: That's the word he used, antsy about getting a contract.
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Speaker 2: And we'll imagine how he must feel now that Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 2: a guy who was drafted a year after Tua was drafted,
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Speaker 2: he's already got his extension toos is not done yet. Certainly,
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Speaker 2: fifty five is now the new floor for Tua. And
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Speaker 2: if the Miami Dolphins are not there and they want
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Speaker 2: to get this deal done before they open training camp,
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Speaker 2: they got to get there because that is the number,
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Speaker 2: and the number is only rising with every day that passes.
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Speaker 1: Same thing with Packers quarterback Jordan Love, he's doing eleven
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Speaker 1: million dollars this season as part of the bridge deal
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Speaker 1: that he did last year to give him a raise
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, his first full seasons as the
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Speaker 1: starter and avoid the Packers having to pick up the
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Speaker 1: fifty year option. Well just like two as well, Judy,
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Speaker 1: this was always going to be fifty million plus for
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Speaker 1: Jordan Love, and it's hard to make a case based
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Speaker 1: on how Love played down the stretch last season and
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Speaker 1: even into the playoffs that last interception. Notwithstanding that fifty
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Speaker 1: five is also the floor for Jordan Love, there's no question.
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Speaker 2: First of all, he actually has had a better post
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Speaker 2: record already than Tua, has a better performance than Tua
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Speaker 2: has in the postseason. I think the message here is
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Speaker 2: if you're a team that has a quarterback that needs
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Speaker 2: a new contract, don't wait because the longer you wait,
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Speaker 2: the price goes up and up and up. It's great
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Speaker 2: for the quarterbacks. The cost is not going to go down.
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Speaker 2: It's only going to keep rising with each contract. So
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Speaker 2: get yours done, let them let the guys after you
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Speaker 2: worry about the price after that.
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Speaker 1: And Judy, you know who waited. The Dallas Cowboys with
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Speaker 1: their quarterback Dak Prescott, who is due about thirty four
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Speaker 1: million dollars this season in the final year of his deal.
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Speaker 1: They can't franchise tag him because they've already tagged him twice.
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Speaker 1: It would be almost eighty million dollars. That's not happening.
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Speaker 1: My understanding is the door is still open for the
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Speaker 1: Cowboys and Dak Prescott.
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Speaker 7: I would not be shocked.
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Speaker 1: They're not there yet, but I would not be shocked, Judy,
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Speaker 1: if they can find a path to get something done
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Speaker 1: prior to the season.
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Speaker 2: Well, you have to think if they get something on,
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Speaker 2: it's going to be in the region of sixty million dollars.
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Speaker 7: I mean, that is.
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Speaker 2: Certainly where you would think this has to go.
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Speaker 7: For Dak Prescott.
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Speaker 2: He is more accomplished than the guys who have gotten
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Speaker 2: fifty five so far. Certainly has given more to the
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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys since then, he's got all the leverage. He
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Speaker 2: seems to be perfectly comfortable with the idea of going
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Speaker 2: to full free agency, and then you would really see
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Speaker 2: the number skyrocket with multiple bidders. So if the Cowboys
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Speaker 2: want to keep Dak Prescott, if they want him to
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Speaker 2: be the franchise quarterback going forward, they have to try
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Speaker 2: to get a deal done now.
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Speaker 1: Dak's playing the contract here a couple of years before
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Speaker 1: worked out for him. Last time around, he got a
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Speaker 1: lot of work in mini camp with receivers not named
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Speaker 1: CD Lamb because his top receiver was a holdout from
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Speaker 1: that mini camp. He's doing about eighteen million dollars this
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Speaker 1: season on the fifty year option. The Cowboys fully plan
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Speaker 1: the sign Ceede Lamb to a deal, I would say
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Speaker 1: that there is optimism at least that they could have
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Speaker 1: a path forward with Cede Lamb to get something done
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Speaker 1: with him as well before the start of the season.
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Speaker 1: But Judy with Justin Jefferson doing that four year, one
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Speaker 1: hundred and forty million dollar deal in Minnesota from the
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Speaker 1: same draft class. Remember, Jefferson missed time last year. CD
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Speaker 1: had a career year. The big question for Dallas is
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Speaker 1: is four years, one hundred and forty million for CD
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Speaker 1: the ceiling or is it the floor?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think we're going to have almost the same
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Speaker 2: conversation about wide receivers that we're having about the quarterback class,
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Speaker 2: which is, if you have a top receiver who needs
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Speaker 2: a deal, it is better to go first and get
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Speaker 2: that deal done. If you are the team because the
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Speaker 2: price is only going to go up, and you're right,
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Speaker 2: the Justin Jefferson deal I think set the new floor
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Speaker 2: for the top receivers who are still waiting for contracts.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a really good deal for CD Lamb.
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Speaker 1: Bengals have a couple of those receivers looking to get paid.
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Speaker 1: It is T Higgins, it is Jamar Chase. T Higgins
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Speaker 1: is really the simpler situation because he is franchise tagged.
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Speaker 1: He has not signed that tag. They haven't July fifteenth
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Speaker 1: to potentially work out a long term deal. But based
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Speaker 1: upon the other guys Cincinnati has to pay, I would
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Speaker 1: say the best chance here with Higgins is he's going
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Speaker 1: to be on the Jesse Bates plan for a couple
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Speaker 1: of years ago, which is show up right before the season,
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Speaker 1: collect all your game checks, then probably hit unrestricted free agency.
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Speaker 1: When you get into twenty twenty five, Jamar Chase, it's
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Speaker 1: a little bit more clouded because again he played with
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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. You know he's going to want to beat
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Speaker 1: that deal, but he's a year behind Jefferson. You're only
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Speaker 1: going into year four of his contract right now, So
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Speaker 1: the Bengals effectively, if you include the Tags have four
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Speaker 1: more years of team control on Jamar Chase. He well
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Speaker 1: may get there and beat the Jefferson deal, especially with
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Speaker 1: the direction the salary caps going. But Judy, it would
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Speaker 1: seem like the best chance for Jamar Chase to do that,
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Speaker 1: especially with the Bengals probably next summer.
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Speaker 2: That's right, that is probably the best path if you
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Speaker 2: are Jamar Chase. But again, if you are the Bengals,
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Speaker 2: if you're any team, you should be looking big picture.
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Speaker 2: Think where is the market at wide receiver going to
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Speaker 2: be in another year?
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Speaker 7: Right?
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Speaker 2: The market is only going to go up for those
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Speaker 2: premier guys. Ceedee Lamb is probably going to get a
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Speaker 2: deal justin. Jefferson already got his, so you know where
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Speaker 2: the floor is. You know, Jamar Chase is going to
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Speaker 2: want to beat that. The sooner you get it done,
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Speaker 2: the better.
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Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk forty nine Ers receiver, another guy who's been
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Speaker 1: waiting for a new deal. He's due about fourteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars on his fifth year option in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: Did not show up for many kid so he has
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Speaker 1: made his statement to the forty nine ers who have
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Speaker 1: been trying to get a deal done. They did have
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Speaker 1: trade interest around the draft. The price in the trade
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Speaker 1: was going to be high talking about a first round
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Speaker 1: pick and probably more once the twenty twenty four draft
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Speaker 1: passed without a trade. All signs Judy pointing toward Ayuk
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Speaker 1: being on the forty nine ers in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: The real question now is does he play that out,
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Speaker 1: probably get tagged in twenty twenty five and then we
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Speaker 1: see where things go or can they find a path
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Speaker 1: to get something done now? Right?
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Speaker 7: And can they find a path?
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Speaker 2: Don't forget Jalen Waddle also got a deal, So does
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Speaker 2: that sort of set the market here for Brandon Ayuk?
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Speaker 7: Where does he fall? You know, on the spectrum?
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Speaker 2: Where do the Niners think he falls on the spectrum
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Speaker 2: of the wide receivers. Keep in mind we've said this before,
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Speaker 2: but San Francisco is pretty comfortable playing things out through
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Speaker 2: the summer. They don't rush through things, and they have
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Speaker 2: let superstar contracts go all the way into August, so
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Speaker 2: we'll see.
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Speaker 7: We got some time with San Francisco.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the surprise holdout of all of mini camps was
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Speaker 1: Brown's wide receiver Amari Cooper, though maybe he shouldn't have
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Speaker 1: been that big of a surprise. He has been playing
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Speaker 1: now entering year five of a five year, one hundred
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Speaker 1: million dollars what I'd call a cocktail napkin contract where
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Speaker 1: we just do twenty million dollars each season. Remember a
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Dallas teamed that too much, they
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Speaker 1: were going to cut him. They trade him for a
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Speaker 1: late round pick that Cleveland. All a MARII Cooper does
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Speaker 1: is go out and have a couple of consecutive one
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Speaker 1: thousand yard seasons. Probably not a surprise duty where the
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Speaker 1: receiver market is going that Amari Cooper also wants an
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Speaker 1: up great if not a new extension to lock them
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Speaker 1: in with Cleveland.
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Speaker 7: Not a surprise.
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Speaker 2: Keeping money has had late season injuries the last two years,
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Speaker 2: and he's going to be thirty years old, and so
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Speaker 2: that might give the Cleveland Browns pause. On the other hand,
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Speaker 2: they haven't really found a suitable number two that they
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Speaker 2: can depend on, so they really need Amari Cooper on
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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns.
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Speaker 1: All right. So for anybody who tuned in tonight, going,
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Speaker 1: what are they possibly going to talk about? All that
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Speaker 1: and more still to be sorted out, all these things
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Speaker 1: playing out from now until training camp, and guess who's
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Speaker 1: going to be here for all of it. It's us
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Speaker 1: the Insiders, every weeknight, seven BM Eastern time, all summer,
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Speaker 1: right here on NFL Network. Coming up after this, the
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Speaker 1: Raiders have a quarterback competition. They're trying to sort out.
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Speaker 1: Is it Gardner Minshew? Is it Aidan O'Connell. We'll get
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Speaker 1: into it after this on The Insiders. Can one of
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Speaker 1: these guys Gardner Minshew and Aidan O'Connell. Hell up, the
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Speaker 1: Raiders return to those glory days. I give them a
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Speaker 1: mustache game that's probably tops in the power rankings the
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Speaker 1: entire NFL with can actually help with the offense. We'll
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Speaker 1: let our guys Omar Ruiz and Brian Baldinger break break
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Speaker 1: that down for us. Omar, I'll start with you here.
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Speaker 1: We know that this is an open competition, certainly aid
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Speaker 1: and O'Connell. We've seen some positive comments from guys like
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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams about him. What do you make of the
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Speaker 1: competition as we get set and lead up to training camp.
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Speaker 10: That it's a legitimate one. Tom, a legit quarterback competition.
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Speaker 10: I'll be a friendly one. We'll get to more on
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Speaker 10: that in a little bit. They're all saying they've seen
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Speaker 10: growth and comfortability from Aidan O'Connell in year two. In fact,
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Speaker 10: Devonte Adams and Max Crosby both saying they appreciate seeing
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Speaker 10: O'Connell talk trash to the defense, sign that he's more
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Speaker 10: comfortable leading this football team and leading this offense. As
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Speaker 10: far as Gardner Minshew, they've seen him demonstrate what's allowed
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Speaker 10: him to be a successful and operational starting quarterback in
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Speaker 10: his time in the NFL. Immiately, his swagger the perfect
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Speaker 10: style for that Raider organization. Offensive coordinator Luke Getsy saying
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Speaker 10: they'll be evaluated in how they operate the offense, how
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Speaker 10: they take care of the football, and of course how
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Speaker 10: they make plays and produce and Antonio Piers, head coach,
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Speaker 10: not speaking specifically about the quarterback competition, but perhaps driving
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Speaker 10: a big hint by saying that the people that are
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Speaker 10: going to play are the people that understand the playbook.
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Speaker 10: As for that playbook, of course, Luke Getsey overlapped with
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Speaker 10: Devonte Adams in Green Bay seven of the eight years
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Speaker 10: that Adams was there, so studying a lot of DeVante
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Speaker 10: Adams tape as they install that offense, and Davonte Adams
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Speaker 10: demonstrating even more of a leadership position given his humilarity
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Speaker 10: with the offense, certainly helping these quarterbacks come along and
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Speaker 10: learn Getsy's system.
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Speaker 1: Baldi.
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Speaker 5: You know, Omar, what really has me interested and exciting
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Speaker 5: is their defense right now, you know, and when Antonio
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Speaker 5: Peers took over the head coaching job, from that point on,
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Speaker 5: they gave hup the fewest points in the league. Last
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Speaker 5: they kept the whole defensive stat Patrick Graham, the defense coordinator,
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Speaker 5: Rob Leonard, Rob Ryan, and.
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Speaker 6: Now you add Christian Wilkins to that front.
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Speaker 5: And I'm going to be out there at the Sack
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Speaker 5: Summit in Las Vegas at the end of the month
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Speaker 5: with Max Crosby and Tyree Wilson, I think this defense
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Speaker 5: has a chance. You look at Splaine and Diablo, they
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Speaker 5: returned as the inside linebackers. The safeties were turn in tack.
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Speaker 5: They got a big lift once Jack Jones joined the
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Speaker 5: team a year ago.
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Speaker 6: They finished ninth to total defense last year.
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Speaker 5: Omark, I'm excited about the potential of what this defense
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Speaker 5: can do in the direction.
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Speaker 6: That they were going. And up until this point it always.
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Speaker 5: Seemed like the defense outside of Max Crosby was on
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Speaker 5: shaky ground. Well, I think that ground is pretty firm
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Speaker 5: right now, and I think they're going in the right direction.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, certainly confident heading into year three with defensive coordinator
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Speaker 10: Patrick Graham. And this reminds me of a conversation I
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Speaker 10: had with Max Crosby last year, advice he got from
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Speaker 10: Tom Brady, who had been visiting practice, and he said,
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Speaker 10: leadership is great, but also surrounding yourself with other leaders.
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Speaker 10: And that's exactly what they found in Christian Wilkins.
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Speaker 6: They've been pushing each other the.
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Speaker 10: First and second in the buildings each and every day
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Speaker 10: for Raiders practice. When Max Crosby makes a play at practice,
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Speaker 10: Christian Wilkins comes and wants to do a play at practice,
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Speaker 10: and Gardner minshew saying that no matter what is going
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Speaker 10: on on the practice field, eventually Christian Wilkins shows up
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Speaker 10: in the play, shows up on tape later when.
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Speaker 1: They watch it at practice.
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Speaker 10: So if Crosby finally has that foil with him, speaks
17:37
Speaker 10: to how much more this Raiders defense could develop.
17:40
Speaker 1: Here in Graham's third year as defensive coordinator, Baldy don't
17:44
Speaker 1: move just a few minutes from now, you're gonna be
17:46
Speaker 1: breaking down free agent fits. Some of the big names
17:48
Speaker 1: out there. Justin Simmons, Why has he signed? Where should
17:51
Speaker 1: he go? Baldy's got answers for you and Omar Meanwhile, well,
17:54
Speaker 1: he's definitely sticking around because he's got Tuma Hubbard the
17:57
Speaker 1: Panthers running back joining us. Right on the other side
18:01
Speaker 1: of this break breaking everything down year two with Bryce
18:04
Speaker 1: Young and company, we'll talk to Jayden Daniels and the
18:06
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18:09
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18:49
Speaker 1: contract four years, thirty seven point seventy five million dollars
18:53
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed, plus the standard fifth year option. Dan Quinn
18:59
Speaker 1: said earlier this week not ready to make bold part
19:01
Speaker 1: proclamations about Jaden Daniels, but certainly appears, according to Quinn,
19:06
Speaker 1: that he is making good progress, which would indicate we're
19:09
Speaker 1: going to be seeing him sooner than later. Welcome back
19:12
Speaker 1: to the Insiders. I'm Tom Pilasero, joined again by Brian
19:15
Speaker 1: Baldier as well as our buddy Steve Whitch. Baldi, you
19:18
Speaker 1: were at the Commander's last Friday. You got an up
19:22
Speaker 1: close look at that team. That organization has undergone an overhaul.
19:26
Speaker 1: A lot of it starts with Jayden Daniels.
19:27
Speaker 5: What do you think, Well, it does start with Jayden
19:30
Speaker 5: Daniels and just the optimism that everybody shares for the
19:34
Speaker 5: young quarterback, because not just because of just the talent
19:38
Speaker 5: and the ploys that he demonstrates out there on the field,
19:41
Speaker 5: but just the work ethic, the commitment, like he's been
19:44
Speaker 5: there every day.
19:45
Speaker 6: He's really gotten to know the teammates.
19:47
Speaker 5: Teammates are getting to know him, like he's really asserting
19:50
Speaker 5: himself from a leadership standpoint. He's big into virtual reality,
19:55
Speaker 5: the goggles and using those to really study defenses and
19:59
Speaker 5: formation and blitz looks and all that kind of stuff,
20:02
Speaker 5: and you know, and how to attack certain coverages.
20:05
Speaker 6: So I think he's you know, kind of growing that way.
20:09
Speaker 6: He did that.
20:09
Speaker 5: He did that at LSU. It's one of the reasons
20:11
Speaker 5: why he won the Heisman Trophy last year. It's fun
20:15
Speaker 5: going out to the practice right now, just seeing Adam
20:17
Speaker 5: Peters and dan Quinn joined at the hip the way
20:20
Speaker 5: a general manager and a head coach got to be
20:23
Speaker 5: joined at the hip, and just all the new faces
20:25
Speaker 5: and then just you know, Steve just looking at the
20:28
Speaker 5: energy level out there a practice, you know, every drill
20:32
Speaker 5: and just you know, you see and in every single
20:35
Speaker 5: position group they've got a new leader.
20:37
Speaker 6: Tyler Battish right there.
20:39
Speaker 5: You get you know, you go to the running back
20:41
Speaker 5: room and you did Austin Eckler and Bobby Wagner.
20:43
Speaker 6: And Frankie Lugu and Jeremy Chin.
20:45
Speaker 5: They've got leaders, real leaders, established leaders at every position
20:50
Speaker 5: group and they kind of take the charge right now, Bald.
20:53
Speaker 11: There is no other leader like dan Quinn.
20:55
Speaker 12: Though, like one thing we have not heard from dan
20:57
Speaker 12: Quinn is the gimmicky slogans that he when he was
21:00
Speaker 12: the head coach Atlanta Falcaus. I think he learned that
21:03
Speaker 12: that didn't necessarily work. But everyone we've talked to Baldy.
21:06
Speaker 12: I know you and I have both spoken to several
21:08
Speaker 12: people from this organization for the past couple of weeks.
21:11
Speaker 12: What dan Quinn has brought not just the energy, but
21:15
Speaker 12: the football building is now a football building. The business
21:18
Speaker 12: operations is a business operations that's not part of football
21:22
Speaker 12: operations anymore.
21:23
Speaker 11: The culture there is shifting.
21:25
Speaker 12: And from people I've spoken to in both elements, the
21:27
Speaker 12: football office and the business office, it is such a
21:30
Speaker 12: breadth of fresh air and it goes to dan Quinn
21:34
Speaker 12: and trust me, they're gonna miss him in Dallas, but
21:36
Speaker 12: also Jane Daniels has offered a lot of this change
21:41
Speaker 12: to Baldy.
21:41
Speaker 11: You know, we've talked to people.
21:43
Speaker 12: The excitement that he brings with the talent right the
21:45
Speaker 12: ball leaves his hand differently, the energy that he brings.
21:48
Speaker 12: He's part of the run game that they're going to
21:50
Speaker 12: be implementing with Austin Eckler and Brian Robinson.
21:53
Speaker 11: But that's part of it right here.
21:55
Speaker 12: But Baldy, you know, I know dan Quinn said, you
21:58
Speaker 12: know he's not going to name his starting court yet.
22:01
Speaker 12: You and I both are wise enough to know after
22:04
Speaker 12: watching enough football, there is no way that they drafted Jayden,
22:07
Speaker 12: Daniel's second overall to back up Marcus Marioda.
22:11
Speaker 5: Well, look, Steve, we were both in Atlanta in two
22:14
Speaker 5: thousand and eight when Matt Ryan came in with Mike Smith,
22:17
Speaker 5: and they didn't just hand the job to Matt Ryan.
22:18
Speaker 6: He earned it, but they had a plan for him
22:21
Speaker 6: to earn it.
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Speaker 5: Yes, and I think I think Dan understands like he
22:26
Speaker 5: wants him to prove that he's deserving of the starting role.
22:29
Speaker 6: So there'll be some plan in.
22:31
Speaker 5: Preseason scrimmages, preseason games where Jayden can basically take the
22:36
Speaker 5: job and be ready to go Week one.
22:38
Speaker 6: That's kind of how I feel like it's going to go.
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Speaker 12: I agree, and Tom, you know, you look at Washington
22:43
Speaker 12: schedule at the Gate too.
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Speaker 11: It does set up pretty well for a first time starter.
22:47
Speaker 12: At Tampa Bay tough defense, right, but then you got
22:49
Speaker 12: the Giants at Cincy that's tough. But then Arizona Cleveland,
22:53
Speaker 12: they've got some games in there where he can get
22:54
Speaker 12: his feet wet, especially if they're trying to establish the
22:57
Speaker 12: run game. They've got a defense that's going to keep
22:59
Speaker 12: points down on the other side of the ball.
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Speaker 11: This is going to be an improved football.
23:02
Speaker 12: Team of bald these we just talked about just the
23:04
Speaker 12: overall culture change and the new oxygen you out they're
23:07
Speaker 12: breathing out there in loud In County, Virginia.
23:09
Speaker 11: That's a good start.
23:11
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz can't wait to get after Jaden Daniels like
23:14
Speaker 1: everybody at every other quarterback. But you know that he's looking.
23:17
Speaker 6: He's gonna ready for that.
23:18
Speaker 5: While he just drew up today, baldy Steve, but he's
23:23
Speaker 5: gonna start playing with the soup right.
23:26
Speaker 1: Don't move a muscle, guys, We're gonna be back with
23:28
Speaker 1: you in just a little bit. Staying in the NFC East,
23:31
Speaker 1: sa Kuan Barkley first look at him in an Eagles
23:35
Speaker 1: uniform once he comes out of the dark. Don't worry,
23:38
Speaker 1: he's coming towards you. Squint a little bit, you can
23:41
Speaker 1: see Saquan he's in there. Meanwhile, another NFC running back,
23:44
Speaker 1: Chewba Hubbard. Happy birthday to Juba, turned twenty five earlier
23:48
Speaker 1: this week. Best president he could get for real this time,
23:51
Speaker 1: he joins our Omar Ruiz.
23:53
Speaker 10: All right, thank you Tom Chuba Hubbard with us. Now, Chuba,
23:56
Speaker 10: you celebrated your twenty fifth birthday this week. What did
23:59
Speaker 10: you do to take a little time for Mini camp
24:02
Speaker 10: to celebrate there.
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Speaker 13: Shoot, man, I just practiced, rested my body and then
24:08
Speaker 13: watched some film later that night. But na, I'll enjoy
24:12
Speaker 13: it here next week once we get out of camp.
24:16
Speaker 1: What figures.
24:17
Speaker 10: Dave Canalis, your head coach, said this week that you've
24:19
Speaker 10: been become one of the leaders here in spring and
24:22
Speaker 10: OTAs in mini camp. What have you done to catch
24:25
Speaker 10: this coaching staff Sye. Another coach texted me that you're
24:28
Speaker 10: the epitome of what dog mentality means and when you speak,
24:31
Speaker 10: people listen. What have you been able to do to
24:33
Speaker 10: demonstrate that leadership?
24:36
Speaker 9: To be honest, man, I just be myself.
24:38
Speaker 13: I pride myself on being a leader of whether it's
24:42
Speaker 13: on the field, whether it's being vocal and any aspect.
24:45
Speaker 13: And you know the thing is on our team we
24:48
Speaker 13: need some leaders to step up. Obviously it's been a
24:51
Speaker 13: rough few years, but you know, we're looking to get
24:53
Speaker 13: things turned around and obviously leadership is the first step.
24:56
Speaker 9: So that's all we that's all we focused on.
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Speaker 10: Have you always been like that or you're feeling like
25:02
Speaker 10: you're coming into your own coming off the great year
25:04
Speaker 10: you had last year to do that now here in
25:06
Speaker 10: year four.
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Speaker 13: No, I mean I've always been like this, man, I've
25:10
Speaker 13: always been somewhat vocal when it comes to leading. But
25:14
Speaker 13: just something I believe in, man, Just everything we've been
25:17
Speaker 13: through here in Carolina the last four years, especially for me,
25:21
Speaker 13: I think that's what's going to get us out of here.
25:23
Speaker 13: Great leaders and great players, and that's what I pride
25:26
Speaker 13: myself on.
25:28
Speaker 10: I mentioned that great year last year, more than nine
25:30
Speaker 10: hundred yards rushing more than eleven hundred scrimmage yards. And
25:33
Speaker 10: then you guys go out and get Robert Hunt and
25:35
Speaker 10: Damian Lewis to fortify the en tier of that offensive line.
25:38
Speaker 10: What were you thinking as far as what your goals
25:40
Speaker 10: might be in twenty twenty four?
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Speaker 1: Now with that front in front of you there, Yeah.
25:45
Speaker 13: I mean we got a great a bunch of great
25:47
Speaker 13: additions as well as a bunch of great guys we
25:49
Speaker 13: already had on the old line. So I mean, I
25:53
Speaker 13: excited isn't even the word to put to it. But
25:55
Speaker 13: I'm definitely blessed and looking forward to what we're going
25:58
Speaker 13: to do together. Guys a limit, I don't want to
26:01
Speaker 13: speak too much on it. I just want to put
26:02
Speaker 13: the work.
26:03
Speaker 10: In I was speaking with coach Canalis earlier this week
26:07
Speaker 10: and talking about installing the offense and how they're building
26:10
Speaker 10: it from the ground up.
26:11
Speaker 1: But there is some familiarity from what you guys ran
26:14
Speaker 1: a little bit last year.
26:15
Speaker 10: How would you say this offense will evolve for the
26:18
Speaker 10: Carolina Panthers in twenty four and how will highlight what
26:21
Speaker 10: you guys do?
26:21
Speaker 13: Well, Uh, you know, one of the biggest thing coaches
26:26
Speaker 13: said to all of us, and it's just echoed it,
26:29
Speaker 13: you know throughout OTAs, is that we're going to run
26:31
Speaker 13: the ball.
26:31
Speaker 9: We're going to be a running team.
26:32
Speaker 13: That's gonna be our identity, that's gonna be our culture,
26:34
Speaker 13: that's gonna be who we are and not bought into that.
26:37
Speaker 9: I know everybody else is buying into it.
26:39
Speaker 13: And you know that's been a big part of our
26:41
Speaker 13: identity these last few years. So to finally build off
26:43
Speaker 13: of it now and build a good base it feels good.
26:47
Speaker 13: I mean, I believe it. It feels genuine. You know,
26:49
Speaker 13: he's been doing a great job so far, so I'm excited.
26:53
Speaker 10: Well, good running game would certainly help your second year
26:56
Speaker 10: quarterback and Bryce Young what have you seen from him
26:59
Speaker 10: this off season? And that suggests to you that he's
27:01
Speaker 10: going to have a big year in year two for him.
27:05
Speaker 13: I mean Bryce is a great guy, just to say
27:08
Speaker 13: that first, and a great football player. You know, he leads,
27:12
Speaker 13: He does everything a quarterback does. Man, he's the pit
27:16
Speaker 13: of me of a great quarterback. So the fact that
27:18
Speaker 13: we're able to, you know, put every all to put
27:20
Speaker 13: all the weapons around him, the old line, the receivers,
27:23
Speaker 13: running backs, et cetera. You know, give him a good
27:26
Speaker 13: base to build off of it. It feels good. This
27:28
Speaker 13: s guy's a limit for him, So I'm excited to
27:30
Speaker 13: see what he does.
27:32
Speaker 10: In true every year we talk in the NFL that
27:35
Speaker 10: there's a team that goes from worse to first and
27:37
Speaker 10: wins the division seemingly out of nowhere. What's the case
27:40
Speaker 10: for the Carolina Panthers to win the NFC South in
27:44
Speaker 10: twenty twenty four.
27:46
Speaker 13: To be honest, man, I don't want to talk about
27:48
Speaker 13: it too much. In all honesty, I feel like too
27:51
Speaker 13: much talking's been done the last few years, and right now.
27:54
Speaker 9: Just got to put in work.
27:55
Speaker 13: And like I said, we got a lot of people
27:57
Speaker 13: doubting us, a lot of people saying, you know, it's
27:59
Speaker 13: going to be repea to last year or this and that,
28:01
Speaker 13: but with just a ton of vision right now, we
28:03
Speaker 13: locked in.
28:04
Speaker 9: So that's all that we're focused on.
28:06
Speaker 10: All right, Sure, but we really appreciate your time, man,
28:08
Speaker 10: Thanks for joining. Guys, have a great break here before
28:10
Speaker 10: training camp and look forward for an exciting twenty four
28:13
Speaker 10: with you.
28:14
Speaker 13: I appreciate you, man, Thank you for the birthday wishes.
28:19
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift doesn't never ring yet, but Travis Kelsey's got three.
28:22
Speaker 1: How about another one for Travis, not Taylor, maybe both.
28:25
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next. On the inside, I'm serious
28:38
Speaker 1: bling again for the Kansas City Chiefs. How do they
28:43
Speaker 1: go about getting a four to three? Now? Sounds like
28:46
Speaker 1: Andy Reid things. One part of the equation my home
28:49
Speaker 1: is showing off that arm.
28:50
Speaker 3: I think it's been cool that we've we've been trying
28:52
Speaker 3: like countries back to my old days. He's forcing me
28:54
Speaker 3: to push the ball down the field if I don't
28:55
Speaker 3: eat those little little jabs at me like oh you
28:58
Speaker 3: want to throw the check down here? And I'm like,
29:01
Speaker 3: I'm just like I got you, coach, We're gonna push it.
29:03
Speaker 3: And so it's been fun. It's been a great camp.
29:05
Speaker 3: And like I said, I love the competing. I think
29:07
Speaker 3: that's been the biggest thing, is competing both sides of
29:09
Speaker 3: the ball.
29:10
Speaker 9: It's been awesome.
29:11
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the insiders, Tom Pellacero, Judy Batista and
29:14
Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger. Judy. Interesting to hear Patrick Mahomes talking about
29:18
Speaker 1: throwing the deep ball more you think of some of
29:20
Speaker 1: the biggest highlights in his career, it's wasp going down
29:24
Speaker 1: the field to Tyreek Kill. There's a lot of different
29:26
Speaker 1: things Mahomes can do. When you hear those comments and
29:28
Speaker 1: you know all the speed they've amassed on that offense,
29:31
Speaker 1: what do you think, Well.
29:34
Speaker 2: I think we're going to go back and see an
29:36
Speaker 2: offense that maybe looks a little bit more like the
29:39
Speaker 2: offense that Patrick Mahomes was running earlier in his career.
29:42
Speaker 2: Don't forget the deep ball has been a part of
29:45
Speaker 2: Andy Reid's arsenal, even when Alex Smith was running the offense,
29:50
Speaker 2: and then early in Patrick Mahomes's career.
29:52
Speaker 7: Of course it.
29:53
Speaker 2: Has subsided without Tyreek Hill. But last season, now we
29:56
Speaker 2: know well documented the problem with the receivers dropping the ball.
30:01
Speaker 2: Last season they were nineteenth in yards per past attempt,
30:04
Speaker 2: only six point nine yards per past attempt for Patrick Mahomes,
30:08
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just not that much.
30:10
Speaker 7: So you're right.
30:11
Speaker 2: They loaded up on speed Hollywood Brown, and then they
30:14
Speaker 2: drafted Xavier Worthy, who, of course is the guy who
30:17
Speaker 2: ran the fastest forty times in Combine history. He's been
30:21
Speaker 2: a little dinged up this spring, but from all reports,
30:24
Speaker 2: Mahomes and Hollywood Brown have already developed a chemistry. And
30:27
Speaker 2: the hope is that by going downfield and taking those
30:31
Speaker 2: flyers downfield, that will open things up more for Travis
30:34
Speaker 2: Kelce and Rashie Rice.
30:36
Speaker 7: As Rushi Rice comes back for his second year.
30:39
Speaker 6: Judy Andy Reid's m O.
30:41
Speaker 5: I mean, I go back to two thousand and four
30:43
Speaker 5: when they signed too, the offense changed. It was bombs
30:47
Speaker 5: away and Donald McNatt having his best year ever. They're
30:50
Speaker 5: going to get the ball down the field. What I'm
30:53
Speaker 5: more excited about is I thought the Chiefs start to
30:55
Speaker 5: finish last year was the best defensive football. I know
30:58
Speaker 5: the Ravens finished number one, but the Chiefs in eleven
31:02
Speaker 5: of their twenty games last year kept opponents to seventeen
31:06
Speaker 5: points or less, and I believe they're gonna be better
31:08
Speaker 5: this year. You get Drew Trankle a year into the system.
31:12
Speaker 5: What a big addition. He was a man who comes
31:15
Speaker 5: back from an injury that he didn't finish the season
31:18
Speaker 5: with last year. Carl Loftis is only getting better and
31:21
Speaker 5: nobody has an answer for Stompol Jones in the middle
31:23
Speaker 5: of this defense, and Trek McDuffie is the number one corner,
31:27
Speaker 5: and there's Steve Spagnolo right now drawing up blitzes and
31:30
Speaker 5: ways to affect your quarterback like you see in some
31:33
Speaker 5: of these pictures here. I believe this defense has a
31:36
Speaker 5: chance to be the best defense in football again.
31:39
Speaker 6: Start to finish this year.
31:40
Speaker 5: All these young kids just keep getting better and better,
31:43
Speaker 5: and they've got the horse and the medal in Chris Jones.
31:47
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was on hand participating in the Chiefs Mini
31:50
Speaker 1: campus past week. Thirty other teams had their starting quarterback
31:53
Speaker 1: or quarterbacks available for the mandatory mini camp. One team
31:57
Speaker 1: did not. It was the New York Jets. Besides, Gard
32:00
Speaker 1: has heard enough about Aaron Rodgers skipping the mandatory mini camp.
32:04
Speaker 1: This is off of his social media. Are y'all really
32:06
Speaker 1: making a big deal because a fifteen plus year Hall
32:09
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback missed two days of practice that they're
32:12
Speaker 1: being with the team all throughout phase one, two, and
32:14
Speaker 1: three of OTA's I don't know if anyone wants fill
32:18
Speaker 1: me in on Gig's what that is. I don't actually know. Baldy,
32:22
Speaker 1: maybe you do. What are your thoughts? You were there,
32:24
Speaker 1: You were at the Jets mini camp the day we
32:25
Speaker 1: found out Aaron Rodgers was there.
32:27
Speaker 5: What do you think is this a big I mean,
32:28
Speaker 5: Sauce was there every single day this offseason. He's the
32:31
Speaker 5: first one on the field every day. And he's not
32:34
Speaker 5: wrong by that statement right there. But I was in
32:36
Speaker 5: that press room when Robert Saala basically said we have
32:40
Speaker 5: two players here with an inexcused absence, Hassan Radick and
32:44
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, and everybody was sort of caught off guard.
32:47
Speaker 6: It wasn't really worded correctly.
32:49
Speaker 5: He had to kind of walk it back like it's
32:51
Speaker 5: just awkward and so well, Sauce isn't wrong. Just the
32:55
Speaker 5: way that they handled it wasn't really the way I
32:58
Speaker 5: think it could have been handled. I think it could
33:00
Speaker 5: have been handled better. They could have been out front
33:03
Speaker 5: of this thing before it ever got to that point
33:06
Speaker 5: on Tuesday with OTAs So and the you know, when
33:10
Speaker 5: they come to training camp, in July, nobody's going to
33:13
Speaker 5: be probably talking about it anymore. But for that day,
33:16
Speaker 5: it was a very awkward field to a team that
33:19
Speaker 5: is just tired of being awkward and they're trying to
33:21
Speaker 5: get things on the right track, and they just didn't
33:24
Speaker 5: finish Mini Camp.
33:27
Speaker 6: I think, on a good note, the way they could.
33:29
Speaker 1: Have I'm down a rabbit hole. In Urban Dictionary now
33:31
Speaker 1: it appears it means something along the lines of good game,
33:34
Speaker 1: which is kind of way of saying, geez, that's what like, geez,
33:37
Speaker 1: you know, okay, get out of here, something like that.
33:41
Speaker 1: I learned a lot while doing this show. Sometimes in
33:43
Speaker 1: the middle of the segment Baldy stick around, you got
33:45
Speaker 1: free agent? Fits some of those big names for us
33:48
Speaker 1: in a little bit here. The Rams, well, they've had
33:51
Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things to try to
33:53
Speaker 1: replace Aaron Donald. How do they fill that void? Our
33:57
Speaker 1: Steve Whites knows that team, well, he'll break it down
33:59
Speaker 1: right after this The Insiders Matthew Stafford the number one
34:12
Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand and nine draft by the Lions,
34:16
Speaker 1: and still not done yet. Aaron Donald went number thirteen
34:19
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, which means this is the first time
34:24
Speaker 1: since the Rams were in Saint Louis that they've headed
34:27
Speaker 1: into a season without their defensive superstar. Welcome back to
34:30
Speaker 1: the insiders, Tom Pilicero, alongside Steve White. Steve, you're out
34:35
Speaker 1: there in LA. This is a big tax for the Rams.
34:38
Speaker 1: They also lost their defensive coordinator, Raheem Morris, who's now
34:41
Speaker 1: the Falcons head coach. So rebooting defensively in multiple ways,
34:45
Speaker 1: how do they move forward and still being the same
34:47
Speaker 1: type of defense without Aaron.
34:48
Speaker 12: Donald, Well it won't be. You know, Aaron Donald was
34:51
Speaker 12: the ultimate kingmaker. Look at how many people who've played
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Speaker 12: next to him who've gone on to do great things
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Speaker 12: and make big money.
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Speaker 11: Well he's not there now.
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Speaker 12: So let's see if byron Yall, the defensive who had
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Speaker 12: eight sacks as a rookie last year, or Kobe Turner,
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Speaker 12: who finished third overall in the NFL's Defensive Rookie of
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Speaker 12: the Year, can who had nine sacks at defensive tackle.
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Speaker 12: Let's see if they can continue to develop without the
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Speaker 12: king maker Aaron Donald playing alongside of them. But Tom,
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Speaker 12: as you mentioned, with the change of Chris Schulz to
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Speaker 12: defensive coordinator, there's uncertainty at every level. As they're formulating
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Speaker 12: this roster, especially the secondary. One thing that the Rams did,
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Speaker 12: it's kind of a looked over a free agent move,
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Speaker 12: was a signed Bill's veteran quarterbacker Davius White. Remember twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 12: he led the NFL in interceptions. He's coming off an
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Speaker 12: ACL tear. He was only able to walk through on
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Speaker 12: the back end of the Rams OTAs. But they think
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Speaker 12: eventually by the start of the season, not necessarily training camp,
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Speaker 12: he can factor in with Darius Williams and Kobe Turner
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Speaker 12: at corner. Sean McVay also told me, when it comes
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Speaker 12: to Kobe Turner, the third year player out of South
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Speaker 12: Carolina State.
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Speaker 1: The most improved player on the roster.
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Speaker 12: So that's something that they like about their secondary, which
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Speaker 12: is still a little bit unsettled.
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Speaker 1: That new Rams defense will make its debut September eighth
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Speaker 1: in primetime against Matthew Stafford's old team, the line Steve,
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Judy.
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Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 2: Kalais Campbell joined the Miami Dolphins. He was one of
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Speaker 2: the biggest literally and figuratively free agents still left on
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Speaker 2: the market.
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Speaker 7: Now he is.
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Speaker 2: Going back to where it all began at the University
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Speaker 2: of Miami.
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Speaker 7: He'll be with the Miami Dolphins.
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Speaker 2: But Baldy, there's still some big name free agents sitting
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Speaker 2: out there. Let's go through a few of them and
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Speaker 2: you can maybe match them up where they should go.
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Speaker 2: Quarterback Ryan Tannehill, Well.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think Ryan Tannehill did absolutely play.
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Speaker 5: He can help out any of these young quarterbacks that
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Speaker 5: we also got drafted. I think really the best thing
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Speaker 5: for Ryan is to wait for an injury to happen.
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Speaker 5: We saw Joe Burrow get hurt in the first week
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Speaker 5: last year and hobble through the first half of the
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Speaker 5: season with that cap injury. I think Ryan Tannehill can
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Speaker 5: sit back and wait for an opening right now.
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Speaker 6: You know whether it could be in Cleveland.
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Speaker 5: I think any team looking for a veteran quarterback that
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Speaker 5: can learn the assistant pretty quickly. I've been in the
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Speaker 5: film room. Judy is very, very bright. He can adapt quickly.
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Speaker 6: I think that's going to be the best bet for
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Speaker 6: Ryan right now.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to defense. Free safety Justin Simmons.
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Speaker 2: Where should he be.
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Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 5: I mean, they've signed everybody else you know a high
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Speaker 5: price free agency this offseason. He would get reunited with
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Speaker 5: Vic Fangio. He knows the defense very well. I think
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Speaker 5: it's still a position of need for the Eagles. I
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Speaker 5: think they're still very young in the secondary. He's only
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Speaker 5: thirty years old. He's an elite player. He still has
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Speaker 5: great skills. To Judy, I think Philadelphia would be a
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Speaker 5: great landing spot. Howie Roseman probably has his number on
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Speaker 5: speed dial. They might get the call.
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Speaker 2: All right, Last one wide receiver, Michael Thomas. Where should
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Speaker 2: he go?
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, Michael has missed, He's only started twenty
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Speaker 5: games in the last four years. He's got a strong
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Speaker 5: injury history. But if a team like Pittsburgh that's looking
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Speaker 5: for a starter opposite of George Pickens right now, maybe
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Speaker 5: it's Roman Wilson, the rookie. Maybe it's Van Jefferson, but
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Speaker 5: Michael Thomas could fit in there. Maybe it's Buffalo Judy.
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Speaker 5: You know, we'll see how Keon Coleman looks. Khalil Shakir.
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Speaker 5: They signed Curtis Samuel, they signed mc collins, other guys.
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Speaker 5: But you know, Michael Thomas has a resume that's much
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Speaker 5: better than any of those players I just mentioned. So
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Speaker 5: maybe if he's fully healthy, passes a physical looks good.
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Speaker 6: Maybe those are two places that he could land.
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Speaker 7: Baldi.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Baldy. I bet you like summer blockbusters. We all
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Speaker 2: like summer blockbusters. It's the season for a summer blockbuster.
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Speaker 2: When we come back on The Insider, we're going to
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Speaker 2: tell you what stars we are looking forward to watching
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Speaker 2: this summer.
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Speaker 7: Coming up on The Insiders.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Insiders. Tom le Sero, Jenni Batista,
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Speaker 1: Steve Whitch, Brian Baldinger. Every weeknight, we're still here with you,
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Speaker 1: but training camp the next time, Judy, we're going to
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Speaker 1: see people on the field. Who's a player you're really
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Speaker 1: excited to see come the end of July.
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Speaker 2: I am really excited to see how Keon Coleman can play.
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Speaker 2: He has been a breath of fresh air, just a
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Speaker 2: delightful presence ever since Draft night. I can't wait to
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Speaker 2: see Keon Coleman with Josh Allen.
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Speaker 5: Judy, I'm looking forward to seeing Steves talking about the
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Speaker 5: Rams and how they're going to rally around the loss
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Speaker 5: of Aaron Downd. They drafted Braydon Fisk from Florida State.
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Speaker 5: At the moment, I watched him play on film and
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Speaker 5: studied and watched him at the See Your Bowl like
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Speaker 5: he's an electric player that just brings a lot of
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Speaker 5: juwe I'm excited to see what the rookie does to
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Speaker 5: tackle for the rams ball.
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Speaker 12: I'm saying the NFC wes you guys who with rookies though,
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Speaker 12: I'm going with Seahawks second year cornerback Devin Witherspoon. I
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Speaker 12: spoke to a coach on their staff and they say
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Speaker 12: what they have seen out of him in Mike McDonald's
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Speaker 12: new defense, he is going to be extra special, someone
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Speaker 12: who could compete for the dp O Y in twenty
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Speaker 12: twenty four.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Michael Pennix Junior. I'm not rooting for chaos.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying Michael Penix comes out like in the
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very.
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Speaker 6: In one K. I know it, I feel it. Yes,
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Speaker 6: I know.
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Speaker 1: I actually am taking a break next week, but we're
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Speaker 1: still gonna be here. The show will be here. Jamal
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Speaker 1: Williams will be on the show, Andrew Berry, the Browns, GM,
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