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Stem Cells and Healthy Aging: Christian Drapeau on the Body’s Natural Repair System · Non-Toxic Living

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  By age 15, you've lost 50% of it.
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  By age 30, 90% of it.
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  So there's a point in your 30s, you don't have enough stem cells.
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  The injuries that I used to have three days later, they're repaired.
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  It takes me like a year to get over.
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  Now they linger.
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  All we do, we use herbs that make them release the stem cells from their own bone marrow.
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  That's all that we do.
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  About 50 of those studies have been published and across the board, people who have developed diseases have 50% fewer stem cells than people who are healthy.
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  What do you think of using your body's own stem cells or placental stem cells?
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  It's a big question.
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  It is.
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  It's a controversial question.
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  I don't do stem cell injections.
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  An injection is a one-time boost.
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  It's almost like me telling you you're thirsty.
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  I can give you like a gallon of water.
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  I'm going to give you a cup of water for the next three months every day.
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  What are these herbs that help stimulate stem cell production?
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  Christian, my brother, so glad to meet you.
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  So wonderful to have you on the show.
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  Our little pre-frame here, I couldn't be more excited.
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  I get geeked out about consciousness and humanity, and you've had a beautiful journey in the short few moments we've shared about this.
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  I would love you to share your journey.
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  And before you became a scientist, before you've got into regenerative medicine and helping people, please share with us.
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  I mean, I don't know if I would say it was before.
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  I think it was all like one thing, you know?
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  I started very early to do things that today I would say, well, it was meditation back then, but it was just like something that I was doing.
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  Anyway, let me put it this way.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  At 13 years of age, so I'm in my sixth grade, and it's my teacher.
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  Like a number of years ago, I went back to Montreal and I invited, I wanted to have lunch with my sixth grade teacher because he was my favorite teacher.
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  Yeah.
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  He was an amazing teacher.
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  There is that teacher, right?
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  Yeah, it was him by a long shot.
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  So I went to sit down with him and I told him, you know, I mean, I didn't see him since I was 13, 14 maybe.
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  So I'm in my forties and I just, so I told him what I had done and he started laughing and he says, I'll always remember.
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  He says, the first day of class I showed up.
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  So I'm 13 and I asked him, I says, Michelle, how is the brain working?
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  And he told me his answer was like, let me double check here and I'll get back to you, hoping that I would never ask the question again.
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  And I did not.
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  But my point is that the 13 year old that I forgot who he was, but was already interested into what became sort of my passion, you know, studying the brain.
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  But it developed because then I started to do
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  accelerated learning techniques, how to go deep in self-hypnosis, change behaviors.
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  I was doing Taekwondo at the time.
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  Taekwondo was going to be in demonstration and the Olympic games in LA, then was going to be also in, it would start in Seoul, I think in 88, something like this.
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  So in 1980, I was invited to form Team Canada.
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  But I was done, I had done martial arts so much, like so much since I was eight.
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  So I was kind of done with it, but I thought, hey, let's give it a shot.
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  I'll apply these techniques.
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  So I spent probably six months every day, two, three hours in my bed in deep self-hypnosis and just like visualizing all the fights and everything.
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  And I reached that point was like, I could not believe that anybody could beat me.
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  So I won that competition.
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  And then I quit and I started to apply this to learning and to different things.
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  And as I'm doing all of this, I'm fascinated by the brain.
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  And that's why I decided to become a neuroscientist.
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  I thought that it was the best way to understand the brain.
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  So I went to McGill to study the brain.
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  I ended up doing research in...
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  on epilepsy and memory.
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  And as I'm doing all of this, I make the story short here, but as I'm doing all of this, meditation belongs to Buddhism, to Hinduism.
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  So I dive deep in that as well.
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  And at some point it's clear to me from a purely scientific standpoint, that reincarnation is a phenomenon of life.
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  And here I am studying memory in rat brain.
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  When we know that if you have memories from the past, you know, it's been eaten by, your brain has been eaten by the worms
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  So if memory isn't in the brain and I'm studying memory in rat brain and cat brain, like suddenly there was a disconnect with what I was doing.
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  So when I started to talk about this with my supervisors, the people that I'm working with, there was some conflict.
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  And at some point I was not rebel at all.
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  I was just, I was a purist as a scientist.
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  You were curious.
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  I was curious.
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  And for me, truth was truth.
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  Whether you have a PhD or it really doesn't matter.
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  Truth is truth.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, but it matters in academia.
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  It does, it matters in academia.
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  So I wrote an article about all of this, kind of challenging the new theory that had been expressed at the time by Ron Melzack at McGill, which was, if I remember, like the gait pain theory to explain phantom limbs.
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  And his theory...
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  did not comply with key scientific evidence that were well published in the scientific literature.
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  And for me as a purest scientist, well, if your theory, I follow Einstein's rules, a good theory cannot exclude a single iota of data.
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  It has to include everything because- This works if this is gone, but it's not gone.
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  Then it doesn't work, exactly.
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  Reality is reality.
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  If your theory must exclude reality to behold, then drum that theory, it's not a theory.
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  So that theory was like that.
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  So I wrote an article kind of criticizing the theory and offering what I thought was a more encompassing view that included some Eastern philosophies and things like this.
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  And I was asked at some point to retract this article, otherwise they would fail me.
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  And it just like, it just, I think it was a stab in the back of that 19 year old.
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  And so at some point I wrapped up everything and I went to live in a monastery.
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  And then I discovered really, I think, what I was searching with the mind.
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  So this is the underline, so the understory, if you want, of everything that I have done.
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  I'm a scientist, but really what is more relevant and important for me is really the mind.
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  Yeah, I mean, it almost brings tears to my eyes because here you are trying to help humanity, trying to bring out a different view, trying to better our understanding of consciousness, of how things work.
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  And you're pouring your heart into this and they stab you in the back, right?
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  And it's like that, it's like pulling the rug out from your life.
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  It's like, what do you mean?
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  Like, I remember when I discovered that the belief system that,
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  the medical system would allow poisons in my body.
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  Like they would allow mercury and malcolm fillings.
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  They would allow that.
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  You know, and then the Pandora's backs happens.
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  Like you would stop scientific thought.
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  You would censor my heart.
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  the divine flow that's coming through me from someplace beautiful to share with the world and you tell me I can't share it.
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  Yeah.
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  I would run to a monastery too.
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  But for me, I don't think it was a difficult time.
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  It was a little bit like, you know, I'm not...
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  It's more than a belief.
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  Like I know in life, when a door closes, another one opens.
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  Beautiful, yeah.
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  And if you're focused on the one that closed, then that's it.
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  You're stuck.
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  There's no future and you'll suffer because you're attached to the door that is closed.
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  So look at which door opens.
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  But in that time, it was more like that attitude by academia almost killed academia in my eyes.
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  It's almost like I lost interest in it.
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  That's really what it was.
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  I lost interest-
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  In it.
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  I'm not going to find it here.
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  And I'm going to like open to, okay, then where do I go that is above that?
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  And that's really what led me to sort of a, I mean, at the end of the day, the quest for deep understanding doesn't come from the outside.
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  It comes from the inside.
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  So it was, it turned into this deeper dive within, if you want.
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  And of course, along the way, I have to make a living.
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  So how long are you in the monastery?
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  I was not there for very long, about six months.
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  I mean, it stayed with me until today, but it was about six months.
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  It's a long time.
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  And along the way then came, you know, I needed to work.
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  So I was hired as a scientist for a company.
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  And of course, you know, who I am is in everything that I do.
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  So it's a big part of what has developed into the whole field of stem cell research.
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  But first and foremost, I am more this sort of researcher of the soul, if you want.
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  Yeah, it's my favorite subject because it's one of the things that puzzles me the most, right?
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  Some of these, and I want to get into the link that you have with that because I know it's your heart and regenerative medicine, stem cells, light, energy.
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  you know, the beautiful divine force that's within all of us, right?
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  And I love the balance.
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  I love the questioning, right?
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  So many people don't question what they believe.
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  From my background, you know, if a pastor tells you it's true, it's true.
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  And then you base all your belief systems and your behaviors off of what they say to fit in to the community.
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  kind of like you didn't fit into the community.
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  Same thing happened to me.
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  I did my research and I thought nuclear energy was pretty clean back then.
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  And they failed me.
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  Well, they didn't fail me.
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  They gave me like a, I had to fight.
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  They gave me like a D and I had to fight to get it up.
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  I mean, like, look, this is, they wanted me to choose, you know, wind energy or solar.
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  And this is back, you know, because they disagreed with,
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  what I shared.
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  Right.
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  And I couldn't have that free thought.
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  So anyway, I do want to come back to, cause I think there's an interesting connection that we'll, we'll discover when it, when it comes with longevity, uh, like you said earlier, uh,
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  Where is memory?
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  Like, where does the human soul go?
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  Let's talk about some of those deeper topics.
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  And the reason why, when it comes to all the things that are non-toxic living, right?
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  What about non-toxic spirituality?
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  What about non-toxic soul care, right?
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  Non-toxic beliefs about death, right?
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  you know, because we have all these things, I'm just gonna die, right?
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  I'm just gonna die anyway, or I'm gonna die and I'm gonna be gone, right?
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  That doesn't give your body or life a clear vision of growth, of achieving something better for humanity.
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  You're just gonna die anyway.
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  I might as well eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die, you know, to quote the late great, he's still alive, Dave Matthews.
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  So I hopefully put that in the universe.
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  So try to connect some of those dots, you know, for me when it comes to
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  to this big topic.
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  Yeah, we talked about this just before.
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  I like this phrase from the Buddha who said, if you want to be happy, stop cherishing your opinions.
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  You're talking about toxic ideas in spirituality at the end of the day.
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  And let me start with this.
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  because I think it's a great example, near-death experience.
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  Forget the science of it.
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  Is the body really dead or not?
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  Let's just say the body is flatline.
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  You no longer have a heartbeat and your brain is flatline.
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  There's no denial whether this is dead or not.
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  There's one thing that we know, your mind is not working.
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  Your brain mind is not working.
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  And people come back with a greater experience of their identity and their identity.
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  they see their lives under an angle that they had never seen before.
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  It is not with regret, it is not with guilt, it's with none of this.
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  It's just with the understanding of, why was I stuck in that?
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  Why did I stay attached to that?
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  Like, why did I do this?
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  And with no regret, just with understanding.
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  They have a greater understanding of really who they are and they have no mind.
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  The mind is gone.
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  Brain is flat line.
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  And then they come back.
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  That experience that they have of identity is not born at the time of death.
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  It's in you.
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  Already.
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  But we mask it with all the opinions and the beliefs that we have in who am I, what I like, what I don't like.
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  And we subscribe like this to millions of little things that makes us who we are as identity.
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  I mean, just look at everything that has happened since the day you were born.
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  And if I ask you about your past, you will have selected tiny, tiny little bits of all that time that will form like the rosary of what you call your life today.
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  It is not your past.
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  It's what you keep alive from your past.
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  So much of what we live in these ideas, and if I continue with this, where I'm going with this is that all these ideas that we have of what spirituality is, at the end of the day,
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  The person that you are in your true identity is that one that was experienced and that near that experience.
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  The one that is now in the mind cannot understand this other identity.
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  The one that is in the mind right now cannot strategize
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  to become this other one, because you're already that presence.
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  All you need to do is surrender.
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  You need to surrender, you need to let go.
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  So the toxicity in this whole spirituality is just having ideas about what we should do for spirituality.
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  It's all, all a process of letting go.
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  It's entirely a process of surrender and calling for this deeper identity to kind of really emerge to the surface.
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  It's an experience of letting go.
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  Yeah.
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  Experience of even trust, the trust that you're going to be safe and okay if you... You will be.
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  Yeah.
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  You question something if it's outside of the box, you know, and this happens in a lot of belief structures.
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  If we question something, then we're going to lose our security and it's going to hurt.
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  But yeah, but even that safety itself is also to an extent, an illusion because you're safe.
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  That identity that is after near death is entirely safe.
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  I mean, you look at, it reminds me with Mark Twain, I think wrote, it's also part of a lot of different spiritual texts, but he said, I've dealt with problems all my life.
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  Fortunately, none of these problems happened.
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  This is cool.
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  You know, the reason why as I age, as a man searches for meaning, right?
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  You have three beautiful kids and you start to see soul, right?
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  You start to see like, this is big stuff, you know?
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  And what I found, right, to open my heart again, to connect with God in ways I never thought I could connect,
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  they were veils over my heart, right?
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  Beliefs that I don't want to offend, right?
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  But beliefs that have built up through my life that were really disconnecting me from a loving relationship with the divine, with the universe.
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  And what I have found, right, in that place,
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  is the voice that I hear is always loving, always encouraging, never talking about my past, telling me what my future is, how encouraging it is, what a great job you're doing as a father, what a great job you're doing with your business.
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  And as a matter of fact, you're thinking too small.
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  You got to believe in yourself more.
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  And it's not ego.
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  Your ego is kind of holding you back in respects, meaning that I'd rather someone else do it.
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  Like I'd rather, you know, that I don't want to think that because it is ego, right?
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  Because I don't, you know, you're running so far from ego that...
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  it's still egotistical, right?
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  You're losing a...
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  So I don't want to go down that road too far, but in general, what I have found in my search for meaning is being brave enough to question what you believe, knowing the same thing that you said, knowing that you're still safe, that you're not going to lose your heart, you're not going to lose your salvation, you're not going to lose that beauty that people experience that...
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  Oh my gosh, everything's okay.
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  I mean, just look in your life, five years ago, 10 years ago, whatever, you've had an idea, an opinion about something and it shifted.
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  Quickly.
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  It's different today.
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  Yeah, it's different.
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  But at every time that you have this idea, you believe in it so strongly that it shapes your life.
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  Yeah.
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  And five years later, you pass another one.
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  So my point is that,
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  After gone through this a number of times, we need to kind of detach from whatever we believe right now, because anything the mind believes is based on limited information.
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  The mind cannot know everything that there is to know about a topic or about something.
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  It's impossible.
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  It's impossible.
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  That means any idea or opinion that we have about it is therefore not the truth.
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  It's limited by whatever we know about this thing.
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  So just moving on with this idea that us understanding, here's an example, because I had a chance to live with, at this place where I was in France, I had a chance to live with people who live fully in this moment.
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  Like they're fully there with it, cosmos, call it however you want.
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  And,
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  there was a number of measurements to be made to cut some planks to be able to fit in a new building that was completely like, it was not regular.
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  And people were trying to measure all these pieces of wood.
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  And at the end, the angle was always off.
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  Like these pieces of wood were never fitting.
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  And he says, no, you're wasting your time.
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  He says, take a piece of paper.
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  And he looked at the roof and he says, okay, 15 degree angle, that many inches.
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  And he gave like 30 of these pieces, gave all the dimension.
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  They want to cut them.
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  They all fit perfectly everywhere.
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  And the point is simply in reality as it is now, everything that is to be known is available.
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  If you just stop switching back to your mind, it's trying to invent reality.
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  It's trying to your mind to model it.
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  In the moment, you have access to everything.
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  But we go back and it comes back to something you were saying before.
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  In memory, we live in so attached to so many things from the past.
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  I'm going to say something that is almost like a punchline.
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  I've heard it many times and it's easy as a punchline to just toss it aside.
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  It is such a deep truth to let it sink in.
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  Right now, your past does not exist.
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  It's gone today.
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  It's the first day of the rest of your life.
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  It's the first day of the rest of your life.
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  You can do anything that you want.
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  The only thing that prevents you from doing what you would like to do is you being attached to things of your past, identity, remorse, regrets, guilt, things that you promised yourself that you cannot let go because you promised yourself, you expressed it to others.
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  So now you need to continue.
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  So we stay attached to so many of these things.
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  We cannot be what we would like to become.
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  It's like driving, looking backwards.
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  And it's so easy.
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  Yeah.
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  It is so easy.
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  It's not easy.
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  I mean, it's not easy in the sense like- Once you know it, it's easy.
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  Correct, correct.
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  Once you know, and once you reach, I think to me, it's one of the condition to be able to move in that space is once you've realized that what your mind is telling you is not the truth.
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  Because we think that what we think is true.
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  We have an idea, I think it's true.
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  Somebody is talking to me and I think that, I don't know, he's angry.
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  I live as if he was angry.
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  It may not be true.
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  There's very little that what the mind is telling you is true when you stop at it.
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  And actually in meditation, you can look at all these thoughts passing, which is by itself very interesting.
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  What were you thinking last Monday at 9 a.m.?
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  Who knows?
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  Monday before that?
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  Probably I wanted a cup of coffee.
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  And all the minutes since the day you're born.
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  And yet we continue to have our thoughts occupying our mind, stealing our presence every single moment of our life in thoughts that are so meaningless that we don't remember any one of them.
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  Yeah.
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  And we're caught in that flow.
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  So you sit down to meditate and you capture one of those thoughts.
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  You do nothing with it.
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  You just stay with it.
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  And as you stay with it, not dancing with it, not doing anything with it, not thinking it's a good thought, it's a bad thought, nothing with it, you just watch it and you will see that its root, it comes from fear.
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  It's come from a fear.
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  And fear is something that is unreal.
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  And Saint-Exupéry was saying fear does not exist because what you fear when you meet it, your fear is gone.
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  Think about it.
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  You're afraid of getting on a stage.
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  You get on the stage, you're there.
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  The fear is gone.
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  Yeah.
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  Now you do it.
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  You survived.
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  So we're always afraid of things in our mind.
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  What do we expect that could happen?
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  Yeah.
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  Never happens that way.
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  So anyway, it's a different topic.
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  But fear is, I mean, we are animals.
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  You know, we need to survive.
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  Everything is wired in our brain to survival.
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  We're afraid.
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  We're fear beings.
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  And so understanding that this thought process comes from fear, putting that fear aside, just say, hey, the moment right now is perfect as it is.
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  Let's not spoil it with the past.
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  And where do I want to go with it?
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  This is happiness.
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  Yeah, it is happiness.
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  It really is.
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  And just being comfortable.
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  It's just like, it's a light feeling.
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  It's freedom.
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  It's truly freedom.
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  I like to tell people like on the last podcast, like you're being convinced of all these things and you really want freedom.
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  You do have freedom to eat McDonald's and do all these things, but are you really free?
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  You know, because your mind's being programmed, you're listening to your mind.
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  But if you quieted yourself, you know.
• 21:34
  You know that this isn't, there's a, there's an answer inside.
• 21:38
  You call it a conscious, right?
• 21:41
  It's not freedom.
• 21:42
  It's a prison.
• 21:43
  Yeah.
• 21:43
  Right.
• 21:43
  For the mind.
• 21:44
  We have all the answers.
• 21:45
  There's, there's one, and then we'll get into stem cell regenerative medicine.
• 21:50
  Let's become real.
• 21:51
  Yeah.
• 21:51
  Let's, let's get out of the esoteric.
• 21:53
  Is that esoteric?
• 21:54
  Right.
• 21:54
  So truth.
• 21:55
  Truth.
• 22:04
  Thank you.
• 22:05
  a song, and it made so much sense to me.
• 22:09
  As soon as I go and identify something with my mind, say it's a leaf, right?
• 22:13
  I call it a leaf.
• 22:13
  Now I'm picturing what a leaf is versus not saying anything, getting quiet, getting grounded, feeling the earth, feeling the wind, and then just looking.
• 22:27
  It's a whole different experience.
• 22:28
  Two different worlds.
• 22:29
  Yeah, there's shadow.
• 22:31
  There's all, I don't even wanna put names to it, but just look.
• 22:35
  past what your mind thinks it is.
• 22:38
  And then that's a form of meditation.
• 22:41
  Absolutely.
• 22:42
  This is the trap of the mind.
• 22:44
  The mind wants to label everything, classify everything by fear that something can happen.
• 22:49
  I wanna control this thing.
• 22:51
  So to control it, I put a label on it.
• 22:53
  And now with that leaf that I now call the leaf,
• 22:56
  I associate it with all the leaves that I have seen in the past.
• 22:59
  And now I protect myself against that leaf, given everything that I know about leaves.
• 23:04
  But I'm not dealing with that leaf.
• 23:06
  I'm dealing with all the leaves that I've experienced in my life.
• 23:09
  So you're never there with anything that is in front of you the moment that you label these things.
• 23:14
  So what you just described right now is really the meditative state of being right there with everything that comes in life, but with the thing that is in front of us without associating with all the past that we have with these things.
• 23:28
  I mean, look at it.
• 23:29
  Any situation that you face that is stressful, that is a conflict situation.
• 23:34
  there's no situation that are the same in your life.
• 23:37
  It will never happen.
• 23:38
  Even if it's the same thing, you're different.
• 23:40
  The environment is different.
• 23:41
  The person in front of you is a different person.
• 23:43
  The thing is different, but we will deal with that situation with whatever way that we dealt in the past that was successful.
• 23:50
  We never have a reaction that is appropriate for the situation.
• 23:55
  If we were reacting appropriately right now, conflicts do not really exist.
• 24:00
  They exist because we don't react properly to the situation.
• 24:04
  No, I notice it like even in, and I'm learning and growing like we all are, but I'll be doing an interview and someone will say something or I'll worry about, you know, I say, I don't worry about people think, but of course I do, or something happens in a conversation
• 24:21
  instead of being in a meditative state of just allowing the conversation to happen, worrying about what I'm gonna say next, it creates anxiety and fear.
• 24:28
  Right?
• 24:29
  And I quickly always tell myself, I'm like, this is gonna work out amazing.
• 24:33
  Totally.
• 24:33
  And I'm just like, I just gotta fall back in love with this person.
• 24:36
  I gotta look them in the eyes, maybe even stop them and tell them that they're beautiful, right?
• 24:41
  And I really mean it.
• 24:42
  Just to get back into a place of open heart conversation, how can we put out an energy frequency, if you will, sounds a little woo woo,
• 24:50
  that has a tonality and that gets out of the road.
• 24:55
  And that's where I think the divine flow happens, right?
• 24:58
  When you can get out of the road and just allow and trust that all the information is available.
• 25:04
  And a lot of brilliant people, this is how they're doing it, right?
• 25:08
  It's not that they're smarter than you are, but they've learned how to access information properly.
• 25:15
  like a building.
• 25:16
  And not be proud about it.
• 25:17
  And they don't care less.
• 25:18
  Just reach the humble conduit of it.
• 25:21
  Yeah.
• 25:21
  Otherwise it doesn't work.
• 25:22
  So regenerative medicine, stem cells, let's dig deep.
• 25:27
  Like, what are you doing here?
• 25:29
  That's it's groundbreaking, right?
• 25:31
  A lot of the things that you're doing.
• 25:32
  I think what led me to discover what I've discovered with stem cells is really everything that I've talked about before, you know, in college.
• 25:39
  To me, truth is truth.
• 25:41
  If I have one superpower, which is not that big, but one superpower is just that you can have a hundred people telling me, you know, they make these studies where they ask people to ask, what's the color?
• 25:56
  You know, it's blue.
• 25:57
  But then you have like 50 people around you says, no, this is red.
• 26:00
  And you get the last person who looks at it and says, yeah, it's red.
• 26:02
  He knows it's blue, but he will conform with the rest.
• 26:05
  I'm the one who will just say, maybe I'm dumb, but it's blue to me.
• 26:08
  So it's this thing of just not being influenced by the belief that is there and just looking at things for what they are.
• 26:17
  starting to see that stem cells really looked like they were the repair system of the body.
• 26:21
  It was obvious to me.
• 26:24
  And so we just published this view and published that stem cells looks like they were the repair system of the body.
• 26:30
  I was at the time working with this blue-green algae.
• 26:32
  I was hired to do studies with this blue-green algae to explain how it was working.
• 26:37
  And we had no explanation why people would have benefits, significant benefits on heart function.
• 26:43
  Somebody else it was liver function, somebody else it's kidney function, somebody else it's brain, somebody else it's lung.
• 26:49
  What is this plant doing to bring benefits touching so many different aspects of human health?
• 26:55
  And so I had no ideas until I came across papers talking about how stem cells could become cells of various tissues.
• 27:03
  It was there in the scientific literature, but completely refused, if I could say, by the scientific community.
• 27:09
  But it was there and to me it appeared obvious, stem cells were the repair system of the body.
• 27:14
  And if they're the repair system, what if that plant is working by triggering the repair system?
• 27:18
  If you trigger stem cell release from the bone marrow and they are the repair system, well, they go into the pain, they repair.
• 27:24
  So they go in the pancreas of the diabetic, they go in the heart of the heart patient.
• 27:27
  You go in the lung of the emphysema patient, go in the brain of the Parkinson patient.
• 27:32
  So you should see a broad variety of those kinds of benefits.
• 27:35
  And that's what we saw.
• 27:36
  So it was just, to me, it just added as like a very simple hypothesis.
• 27:40
  And that, honestly, I remember, I mean, we had nobody believing it.
• 27:46
  Nobody believing it.
• 27:47
  I was called an idiot many times, but to me it appeared so obvious.
• 27:51
  So we just put it to the test, bought the equipment, tested it and we discovered that that's how that plant was working by triggering the release of stem cells from the bone marrow.
• 27:59
  I didn't know more about stem cells than anybody who ends up doing physiology class, med class, you know, in what is that, those first three years of college, I was in Canada, we called it different.
• 28:11
  Anyway, the bachelor, the bachelor degree.
• 28:13
  So that's all I knew of stem cells.
• 28:16
  But then after observing all of this, I just dove in the whole science.
• 28:20
  Like any stem cell researcher, there was nothing in it.
• 28:23
  So it had to dive in the literature and kind of learn, you know, as they went.
• 28:27
  So anyway, that's how it started for me for stem cells.
• 28:30
  Here's a funny story.
• 28:31
  I mean, I've had stem cell injections, right, from my bone marrow, not getting under anesthesia.
• 28:38
  My wife had to leave the room because they're going...
• 28:41
  you know, and without anesthesia.
• 28:43
  Yeah.
• 28:43
  I was, I wanted to be tough guy.
• 28:44
  I didn't want to go under and, uh, and, you know, uh, you did it only once.
• 28:49
  Yeah.
• 28:49
  I've only done it once.
• 28:50
  Yeah.
• 28:51
  Um, well, yeah, only once.
• 28:53
  Yeah.
• 28:53
  Only once.
• 28:54
  Um, and that actually wasn't the most painful part.
• 28:56
  I think some of the injections were, were even more painful.
• 28:58
  I got a lot.
• 28:59
  Right.
• 29:00
  Um,
• 29:01
  And they helped, right, in certain areas.
• 29:04
  In other areas, I think some of the therapies deactivated some muscle groups.
• 29:07
  And I just didn't, I should have researched more on how to prepare my body.
• 29:12
  But, you know, I know these, you know, I know a lot of these folks have been in industry, you know, a long time.
• 29:17
  So I'm just like, I'll just go do it.
• 29:18
  And this was what, 12 years ago, you said?
• 29:21
  That was probably like six, six years, five years ago.
• 29:27
  Yeah, yeah.
• 29:28
  So it was recent.
• 29:31
  Before we continue down your research here with stem cells, what do you think of using your body's own stem cells or placental stem cells?
• 29:38
  Like- I mean, it's a big question.
• 29:41
  It is, it's a controversial question.
• 29:43
  And some, and I go to all the regenerative medicine, so do you, and some people are like, oh my gosh, and she looks great and she's doing all this stuff and they do work.
• 29:51
  But what about the long-term risks and all the things?
• 29:54
  I don't do stem cell injections.
• 29:56
  So I don't have bias or another, but the people that I work with that do not want to do exogenous stem cells or allopathic stem cells, like coming from somebody else, umbilical cord, placenta, those kinds of stem cells.
• 30:16
  The reason why they don't want to do this is a few of them.
• 30:18
  Number one,
• 30:20
  there's a greater potential for infection, systemic infection.
• 30:24
  So you need, but it's just a, it's kind of a good manufacturing practice.
• 30:28
  If you get them from a good lab where these cells, these samples are well taken care of, then it's not an issue.
• 30:35
  But oftentimes they're not.
• 30:36
  So it is right now you go on the FDA website to see what are the most common side effects of umbilical cord stem cell injection.
• 30:44
  And it is systemic infection.
• 30:46
  because of the poor handling of these samples.
• 30:50
  Put that aside, this is just malpractice or poor practice.
• 30:54
  It's not a fundamental problem with the procedure.
• 30:58
  The second one is the fact that it's difficult
• 31:02
  in real life, life science, medical science, to do an extraction of these umbilical cord stem cells and only have 100% stem cells and nothing else, no other form of foreign tissue, even microscopic.
• 31:19
  So stem cells are not immunogenic, but any other kind of tissue can be immunogenic.
• 31:24
  So what if you were to trigger some form of low grade tissue rejection?
• 31:28
  that is so small that you don't really feel it, but over time can become some form of autoimmune issue.
• 31:34
  It's a risk.
• 31:35
  It has not really materialized, but I'm telling you the reasons why it's not being done.
• 31:40
  It's another of those reasons.
• 31:41
  And the last reason, which was, again, it's not, I don't think it's a big risk, but it was a potential risk until about two, three months ago when actually an article, a study was published
• 31:52
  It was, I think, early April.
• 31:54
  And what this group did is that they injected the human gene coding for Alzheimer's or part of the expression of Alzheimer's into mice.
• 32:04
  And then they let these mice grow.
• 32:05
  They extracted stem cells from these mice and injected them into recipient mice.
• 32:11
  And some of these mice developed Alzheimer's.
• 32:14
  So now there is a first proof or evidence that you can transfer a genetic blueprint, if you want, to the recipient.
• 32:23
  Uh...
• 32:24
  There's even the advantage.
• 32:25
  You can say, well, I'm taking, I'm having additional diverse DNA so I can actually protect my body more because now you have more, you know, in genetics, oftentimes you get a problem on both chromosomes and that's where you express it.
• 32:38
  So the moment you have other chromosomes, you're protected.
• 32:40
  So in a way, there's a protection that comes from other, getting a foreign genome, if you want, in your body.
• 32:47
  But there's also the potential side effects of acquiring a disease process.
• 32:51
  That study showed that this is real.
• 32:53
  Like it can happen.
• 32:55
  Quite frankly, I have not seen it in the scientific literature.
• 32:57
  I've never heard it in a clinic, but it's the kind of thing that how do you link it, you know, to that injection if it shows up years down the road?
• 33:06
  I know that I've met a few people that came to, when I lectured, they came to share with me their experience and two or three people told me it's not proven until the clinician realized,
• 33:17
  does the work to prove it, it remains just like an association.
• 33:21
  But these people developed leukemia within three to six months of their injection of umbilical cord stem cells.
• 33:28
  Nobody can say if that was the cause.
• 33:30
  But that is the concern.
• 33:32
  And that is the risk why a lot of these people...
• 33:35
  the colleagues of mine do not want to use umbilical cord.
• 33:38
  The drive to use umbilical cord stem cells is that they are younger.
• 33:42
  Younger stem cells are more potent than older stem cells.
• 33:46
  However, there is an absolutely wrong conclusion that I hear sometimes from top stem cell scientists in the field, which is entirely wrong.
• 33:54
  I have the proof that is wrong.
• 33:56
  It's the fact that because younger stem cells are better, therefore older stem cells are worthless.
• 34:03
  that conclusion is entirely untrue.
• 34:05
  And I've heard that.
• 34:06
  This word out there, like beyond 40 years of age, your stem cells are falling down the cliff, they're irrelevant.
• 34:12
  We have studies, ongoing studies right now on Parkinson, on severe, like congestive heart failure, severe heart disease.
• 34:19
  We're starting one on liver.
• 34:20
  We're starting one on COPD, emphysema, but we have cases.
• 34:24
  So in those studies,
• 34:26
  The patients, all we do, we use herbs that make them release the stem cells from their own bone marrow.
• 34:32
  That's all that we do.
• 34:34
  Your stem cells in your bone marrow are the oldest stem cells in your body.
• 34:38
  So we pick at the worst depository of stem cells.
• 34:42
  Your fat stem cells are younger.
• 34:44
  So we release those stem cells.
• 34:45
  These patients are between 66 and 76 years of age.
• 34:51
  So far in that study, all of them have regained normal heart function after six months.
• 34:56
  We have started now a study on Parkinson's.
• 34:58
  Same thing.
• 34:59
  These people are all in their early 70s.
• 35:01
  And then in that study so far, all patients have seen benefits.
• 35:05
  I cannot give you the data.
• 35:06
  It's too early in the process, but we do see the benefits.
• 35:09
  All these people are in their 60s, 70s.
• 35:13
  So the difference is that an injection is a one-time boost.
• 35:17
  When you release your poor stem cells, like your less effective stem cells, do that every day over long periods of time.
• 35:24
  It's almost like me telling you you're thirsty.
• 35:26
  I can give you like a gallon of water.
• 35:28
  I'm going to give you a cup of water for the next three months every day.
• 35:32
  Yeah, which is safe.
• 35:33
  I think I prefer that.
• 35:34
  Yeah, I would agree.
• 35:35
  So there's lots of questions, right?
• 35:38
  But one of the questions that's top of mind is, okay, so we have these herbs, right?
• 35:44
  Sometimes there's extracts to get these certain phytochemicals that nature provided.
• 35:49
  There's certain frequency associated with that.
• 35:51
  There's light.
• 35:52
  There's, you know, we put, if you look at it, you know, it's glowing because if it's real, right, it has life.
• 35:59
  It has light.
• 36:00
  You put a, you know, a little Debbie and there's no light.
• 36:05
  There's no energy.
• 36:07
  certain herbs and foods.
• 36:08
  I don't know what the type of photography, but you can see light coming from.
• 36:13
  Kyrdian photography.
• 36:13
  Yeah, there's light coming from these herbs.
• 36:15
  So let's get a little woo woo.
• 36:18
  What do you think's going on?
• 36:19
  Like if, you know, and I'm a big proponent of herbal technologies and you know, our ancestors would have, a lot of their diet was herbs.
• 36:30
  They knew it was safe and they couldn't find meat or
• 36:34
  the fruits weren't coming off.
• 36:35
  So they're just grabbing herbs, you know, tonic, you know, tonic herbs, healing herbs.
• 36:42
  And just, I mean, they were robust and healthy and bright.
• 36:47
  I mean, we created communities and civilizations.
• 36:49
  I don't know who's smarter, because we have big buildings out here or some of the ancient civilizations that they're no longer with us because of
• 36:56
  xyz right could have been a volcano could have been a flood could have been a you know a meteor you know i'm a geologist formal training but chemistry side is where i where i landed just you know we can i'd like to talk more about you know uh the herbs but how do you think they're working so well
• 37:15
  I mean, in the whole field of stem cell research, I'm a trained scientist.
• 37:20
  So I act as a scientist, meaning like we need to demonstrate things.
• 37:26
  And I love efficacy.
• 37:27
  So I don't cross, I don't cross the two, but I'm not limited by that frame because a typical traditional scientist like Tyson DeGrasse,
• 37:37
  Yeah.
• 37:38
  We'll basically live in a world where everything that I can demonstrate is reality.
• 37:44
  What I cannot demonstrate does not exist.
• 37:46
  And I'm not limited by this.
• 37:48
  And let me give you here a super simple example.
• 37:52
  What is the greatest force in the universe right now among us humans?
• 37:55
  What is the greatest force?
• 37:57
  You mentioned it earlier.
• 37:59
  It's love, isn't it?
• 38:00
  Love, yeah.
• 38:01
  Measure love.
• 38:02
  Do you have a love meter?
• 38:03
  No.
• 38:03
  How many grams of it?
• 38:05
  Like what is the unit to measure love?
• 38:07
  I need 40 grams a day.
• 38:07
  Scientifically, it does not exist.
• 38:09
  It cannot be quantified.
• 38:10
  It's an energy.
• 38:11
  It's an energy, but it cannot be quantified.
• 38:13
  And in the pure scientific world, if you cannot quantify something, it's not real.
• 38:18
  So let's, and then again, we can go to another layer in this.
• 38:21
  You're talking about, you know, energy coming out of plants or people.
• 38:25
  We live in a world where we humans have a very limited, narrow band of light that we can see.
• 38:33
  Outside of that band of light, it does not exist for us.
• 38:37
  We deny the existence of things that cannot be seen.
• 38:40
  And there's simply different frequencies on this whole spectrum of frequencies.
• 38:44
  That's why it's called a spectrum.
• 38:45
  Exactly.
• 38:46
  And so that reality is there, whether we can see it or not.
• 38:51
  So no question that this all, I mean, honestly, if I were to restart my career in science,
• 38:57
  I would go more into that area.
• 39:00
  Everything is frequency.
• 39:01
  Everything is vibration.
• 39:02
  I find it fascinating that we can use red light, like in your body, you look through your skin, you can't see through your skin.
• 39:09
  So your imagination is, it's completely dark.
• 39:11
  It is to our eyes, completely dark inside.
• 39:14
  But now we start to realize that cells in the body, in the brain have photoreceptors to light that is coming through your skin.
• 39:24
  to activate cellular processes inside your body.
• 39:28
  As a trained scientist in my days, this would have been like lunacy, like complete stupidity.
• 39:34
  You're not a plant.
• 39:35
  And so, yes.
• 39:37
  But you kind of are.
• 39:38
  Kind of.
• 39:39
  So there's a lot of stuff in the world of frequencies that I find absolutely fascinating.
• 39:44
  Yeah, it blows my mind.
• 39:44
  So there's no question I am trained as...
• 39:48
  not as a biochemist, but I look at plants through the lens of a biochemist.
• 39:53
  So we analyze plant extract.
• 39:56
  We look at the polyphenol profile.
• 39:58
  We look like the polysaccharides, all these different chemicals and their mechanism of action, how they act on receptors for stem cells.
• 40:05
  That's what I do because that's my training.
• 40:08
  And yet inside of me, there's a place that knows very well that it's taking the wholeness of a plant and look at it through a very, very narrow lens.
• 40:16
  Yeah.
• 40:16
  But if you don't do the research through that narrow lens, you don't have a credible language out there.
• 40:23
  So at the end of the day for me is like, I know what these plans that I'm working with, you know, we developed this product, STEM Regen, I know what it can do in people's lives.
• 40:33
  I documented scientifically enough so that people understand what it can do and they feel motivated to take it.
• 40:40
  But I know that the way that it will work in the body goes way beyond only that message.
• 40:46
  Yeah, your little snapshot.
• 40:46
  I know that there's way more to these ingredients than just that mechanism of action.
• 40:51
  That you're able to measure.
• 40:52
  Correct, correct.
• 40:53
  Because it has a certain phenol.
• 40:55
  I study some of these herbs and they're mind-blowing.
• 40:59
  Like I just did a video on rosemary.
• 41:01
  It has like 3.2 million views.
• 41:03
  You need a little more rosemary in your life.
• 41:05
  And the scientific literature is so thick.
• 41:09
  Mood disorders, neurodegenerative conditions.
• 41:12
  Everything, the plant, the world is an amazing pharmacopoeia.
• 41:16
  It is.
• 41:17
  And it's so powerful and so beautiful.
• 41:19
  And yet we want to move away from nature.
• 41:21
  We want to move to surgery.
• 41:22
  We want to move to medications.
• 41:24
  Are we not?
• 41:26
  I mean, we forget when we forget.
• 41:28
  It's not really told.
• 41:30
  It's not well expressed in our education, but we live in a world that is post the battle between pastor, I forgot who was the other one that was most promoting like the terrain, but there's a time not too long ago, let's say two centuries ago,
• 41:44
  where there was this idea that your health is really about your terrain.
• 41:48
  Whether you're exposed to a bacteria is not the problem.
• 41:51
  The bacteria is not the problem.
• 41:52
  It's your terrain.
• 41:53
  The problem is the terrain that is susceptible to that bacteria.
• 41:56
  So you treat the terrain.
• 41:58
  And at the time, Pasteur showed that, you can kill these bacteria.
• 42:02
  You can use antimicrobials.
• 42:05
  Pasteur, what is the other one?
• 42:07
  No, it's not pastor that brought penicillin, but it's around all the same time.
• 42:10
  Yeah.
• 42:11
  So you can kill the bacteria and then you don't have the disease anymore.
• 42:14
  So now it became a full medicine of looking at the agent of the problem.
• 42:19
  The mold on Flory's coat.
• 42:20
  So it's Flory that did discovered antibiotics?
• 42:23
  It's...
• 42:24
  I read the book, The Mold on the Flores Coat.
• 42:26
  The name is not popping up.
• 42:27
  But in any case, the main issue here is that- Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
• 42:30
  So it shifted all of our modern medicine into looking at the agent of the problem, anti-blood pressure, anti-histamine, anti-whatever, anti-bacterial.
• 42:43
  And we live in a world of anti-
• 42:46
  And instead of a world of pro-terrain, make your terrain function better and you take care of the problems.
• 42:52
  So that's what for most of the time, even though we document herbs as antibiotics, anti-this.
• 42:59
  Anti-inflammatory.
• 43:00
  Because the world wants that.
• 43:02
  If you don't have that language.
• 43:03
  Antioxidant, yeah.
• 43:04
  Exactly, antioxidant, anti-inflammatory.
• 43:06
  If we don't document the plants that way, they don't find a, we're not heard with it.
• 43:12
  But I think the plants work in a way that is so much deeper, so much more harmonious.
• 43:17
  And there's,
• 43:18
  thousands, hundreds of thousands of studies done on plants in general and their medicinal properties.
• 43:24
  But always we're trying to push it through the lens of biochemistry.
• 43:29
  I think they work in a much more wholesome way.
• 43:31
  We use biochemistry as a guide in a way.
• 43:33
  Yeah, there's a lot of ancients that would disagree with how we're looking at the plants.
• 43:39
  And they do it based on frequency and frequency and how it, the frequency of your liver, there's a frequency, an herb that will match that frequency, which will cause your liver to heal.
• 43:48
  And it's more endogenetic type.
• 43:50
  Yeah, there's a fascinating example of this.
• 43:52
  You know Shanca Piedra?
• 43:54
  I do not.
• 43:54
  Okay.
• 43:55
  So I had a chance to travel to South America, to Peru, to go in the jungle and meet these shamans, you know, healers.
• 44:02
  And there's a plant that is called Shanca Piedra.
• 44:05
  Philanthus neruri is the name of the plant, but they call it Shanca Piedra, which in Spanish means stone breaker.
• 44:11
  Okay, so think about this.
• 44:13
  So when the Spaniards came into that area,
• 44:17
  they were calling the plant Shunca Piedra, way before we knew our kidney are working.
• 44:23
  And they would use that to eliminate kidney stones.
• 44:26
  They call the plant Stone Breaker.
• 44:29
  You have a kidney stone, you drink a tea of that leaf, within 10 days, you have passed your kidney stone.
• 44:36
  It fractures your kidney stones into million of small pieces that you passed without pain.
• 44:42
  How do they know?
• 44:44
  How have they called that plant?
• 44:46
  They didn't even know what a kidney was, you know?
• 44:49
  And they called that plant Stonebreaker.
• 44:51
  So I asked him, I says, how do you know like this plant is good for Stonebreaker?
• 44:55
  He says, the plant told me.
• 44:56
  So they do these journey, ayahuasca and other things.
• 44:59
  They journey and the plant world is telling them what these plants are good for.
• 45:04
  And now these plants are put through studies, double blind placebo controlled studies,
• 45:08
  And then it was revealed that indeed, that's what happens.
• 45:12
  Your kidney stone will be fractured into million of pieces and you pass them without knowing.
• 45:16
  How did they know this?
• 45:17
  There's information.
• 45:18
  It's amazing.
• 45:19
  That's available.
• 45:20
  Exactly.
• 45:20
  If you're open to it.
• 45:21
  Exactly.
• 45:22
  Yeah.
• 45:22
  But from a purely scientific standpoint, until that study is done, this is folks' medicine.
• 45:27
  These people are just like unintelligent.
• 45:29
  It's voodoo.
• 45:30
  It's voodoo.
• 45:31
  They live like it's folks' medicine.
• 45:33
  So for me, with some...
• 45:36
  I wouldn't say some caveat, like let's look at it in an educated, in a organized and thorough manner.
• 45:43
  Let's look at this knowledge that we have over centuries of the use of plants.
• 45:48
  But I'm not limited by the fact whether it was confirmed by modern science, whether we have a mechanism of action.
• 45:54
  I took it the other way around.
• 45:55
  And that's how I discovered all these plants that have an effect on stem cells.
• 45:58
  I trusted what has been told for centuries about these plants in terms of their ability to heal.
• 46:06
  Let's test this ancient wisdom.
• 46:07
  What has been reported by this ancient wisdom that I truly believe, let's go and put it to the test and see if the mechanism of action could be stem cells because it would fit the bill of having a stem cell effect.
• 46:19
  And that's how we discovered plants that have an amazing effect on stem cells.
• 46:23
  Yeah, it's, and your research, there's even other research that supports your work.
• 46:29
  It's, it's fascinating.
• 46:31
  I've done some, you know, formulation for stem cell reproduction.
• 46:35
  And, you know, some of the things I landed on back then, I don't, I don't think they're in your products, but like deer antler, you know, and that can promote stem cell growth.
• 46:45
  I mean, I mean, this is your, this is your area of expertise.
• 46:47
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:48
  I don't want to use animals to produce, to make products.
• 46:51
  Yeah.
• 46:52
  So, but that's my...
• 46:54
  I love that.
• 46:55
  I mean, I love when people are true to what's in their heart, right?
• 46:58
  And it is hard, right?
• 46:59
  It's, if you feel that energy, you're like, that does not feel right doing that.
• 47:05
  And I don't have to.
• 47:06
  Yeah.
• 47:07
  And you don't have to.
• 47:08
  So, we have some...
• 47:10
  herbs that are through various mechanisms, not really well, you know, not completely documented, but what you can find out is that stem cell production is being released into the body and stem cells do their thing.
• 47:26
  which is they go find the areas that need repair and they repair themselves.
• 47:31
  So it is like the ultimate, you're taking an herb.
• 47:34
  And I love that connection.
• 47:35
  I mean, I know about certain herbs that do help activate stem cells.
• 47:40
  But in talking to you, it's...
• 47:45
  how you discovered it's really cool.
• 47:46
  I mean, in a nutshell, I talked a little bit about how this was discovered with this blue green algae, but in a nutshell, stem cells are your repair system.
• 47:54
  There's a direct link between how many stem cells you have in your blood and your ability to repair.
• 47:59
  So as we age, red marrow converts into fatty marrow that does not make stem cells.
• 48:03
  So as we age, we have fewer and fewer stem cells.
• 48:06
  That decline happens fairly early in life.
• 48:08
  By age 15, you've lost 50% of it.
• 48:11
  By age 30, 90% of it.
• 48:13
  So there's a point in your 30s, you don't have enough stem cells.
• 48:15
  That's when you discover, you know, the injuries that I used to have and don't care about it because three days later they're repaired.
• 48:20
  It takes me like a year to get over an injury.
• 48:22
  Now they linger.
• 48:23
  because you don't have enough stem cells.
• 48:25
  Now, through this whole work of documenting the role of stem cells in repair, what was discovered is that they don't only play a role in repair, but also in maintenance.
• 48:36
  So we lose cells every day.
• 48:37
  It's an idea that existed before, you know, you get a new body every year, every two years, 12 years.
• 48:43
  These were like great ideas, great concept.
• 48:46
  Stem cell research has put data around this concept.
• 48:48
  The reality is that you have a new skin every month, a new lining of the intestine every five days.
• 48:54
  You get a new liver every two, three years.
• 48:56
  You get half of a new heart every 25 years.
• 48:58
  Everything is in this constant turnover.
• 49:01
  Turnover means I lose cells and you have stem cells to replace it.
• 49:04
  But if by age 30 you've lost 90% of those stem cells,
• 49:08
  From that point on, every day of your life, there is unrepaired damages and they accumulate.
• 49:13
  So if they are in your pancreas, it's diabetes.
• 49:16
  If they're in your lung, it's COPD.
• 49:18
  If they're in your heart, it's heart disease.
• 49:19
  So I published this about 10 years ago.
• 49:22
  This decline in stem cells is the fundamental cause for...
• 49:26
  of aging and disease formation.
• 49:27
  And I said, there's a way to prove that.
• 49:30
  Go count the number of stem cells in people who have developed all kinds of age-related disease, and it should be less than what you find in healthy people of the same age.
• 49:38
  Now, about 50 of those studies have been published, and across the board, people who have developed diseases have 50% fewer stem cells than people who are healthy.
• 49:47
  So the point is just to understand that the repair system, and we...
• 49:52
  don't experience optimal health because we don't have as many stem cells in circulation.
• 49:56
  And we have found plants that make you put more stem cells in circulation.
• 50:00
  It's really that simple.
• 50:01
  The question I have, and I think the people listening is, so you're taking these herbs, which are documented to help your body repair.
• 50:10
  It's beautiful, right?
• 50:11
  This is what we want.
• 50:12
  We wanna live longer.
• 50:13
  We wanna use our bodies.
• 50:15
  I love using plants, right?
• 50:16
  They're teachers, they're...
• 50:20
  They're meant to be consumed.
• 50:21
  We don't eat them enough.
• 50:22
  We're not putting enough herbs.
• 50:24
  I'm a big proponent about using herbs in cooking.
• 50:26
  Chefs know about how herbs protect the food from oxidative stress when you're eating it, how to prepare it, how to make it more healthy.
• 50:35
  Like if you really study the chemistry of food, this is an important piece that America needs to get back to or the world, right?
• 50:43
  America specifically, the rest of the world does a much better job.
• 50:47
  So when you're taking these plants and the stem cell production is increasing, does your body make more stem cells or is it a limited resource or is it a limitless resource?
• 50:57
  It's a limitless resource.
• 50:58
  Limitless resource.
• 50:58
  So your red marrow keeps converting into yellow marrow.
• 51:02
  So this you can't, to this day, we don't know what we can do to slow down this process.
• 51:07
  But whatever you're left with red marrow, you can just make it release more and doesn't change anything to that red marrow.
• 51:13
  So you can use as much as you want.
• 51:16
  So at the end of the day, if, and I think in ancient wisdom, I think these shaman who studied herbs, and shaman aren't just people that, they're not witchcraft, right?
• 51:25
  We call them shaman, but they understood earth and planet and herbs.
• 51:29
  So they get a bad rap in America.
• 51:31
  It's like, oh, you're a shaman.
• 51:32
  And then some people in America that call themselves a shaman after one ayahuasca trip—
• 51:36
  Yeah, so it's kind of silly, but it's a loose term.
• 51:39
  But a true shaman knows plants, knows herbs, knows the power of them.
• 51:44
  There's ones they could give you that could kill you.
• 51:46
  You could match it with another, and it would nullify the effect.
• 51:49
  You know, is that frequency?
• 51:49
  Is it energy?
• 51:50
  Is it chemicals?
• 51:51
  I don't know.
• 51:52
  But they've been around for millennia, right?
• 51:55
  And there's ancient wisdom that we've thrown out.
• 51:58
  So I believe in the consumption of herbs.
• 52:02
  So you found herbs that are very specific that will have a more that you can consume and there's overlap.
• 52:10
  But what are these herbs that have shown in your research and research of others that help stimulate stem cell production?
• 52:20
  Blue Green Algae from Klamath Lake.
• 52:21
  Yeah.
• 52:22
  Sea Buckton Berry extract.
• 52:23
  Sea Buckton Berry from high altitude, so the Tibetan Plateau.
• 52:26
  Aloe Microclata from Madagascar.
• 52:29
  Phycoidon from different kind of brown seaweeds.
• 52:32
  Panax noroginsin.
• 52:34
  These are the top five.
• 52:35
  Yeah.
• 52:36
  And then there's others that we have found have an effect on stem cells, but the effect is a little bit less, like Foti, Ishu Wu from traditional Chinese medicine.
• 52:43
  This was shown to also release stem cells.
• 52:45
  What else?
• 52:47
  These are the main ones that come to mind.
• 52:49
  But these are the top five that I use in the products that I make.
• 52:52
  Yeah, I love that.
• 52:53
  So with that, when you're sourcing, like you had specific locations and I love the specificity that you had.
• 53:02
  Why do you have such specificity on the sourcing of where these come from?
• 53:06
  It's wherever, I base myself on historical use.
• 53:10
  So wherever there's a plant that has been grown there, and there was used with certain properties that were reported, then I go back and get them from that terrain and from that area.
• 53:20
  Yeah, I love what you're saying.
• 53:22
  For example, you grow it at high altitude, the shrubs will go maybe six feet.
• 53:26
  The berries are really small, tart.
• 53:29
  You grow sea buckthorn berry at sea level and the tree can become like, I don't know, 24 feet tall.
• 53:36
  And you will have like much bigger berries, like sweeter, but it's not the same biochemistry.
• 53:41
  So I use the plants from where they were reported historically to have those kinds of benefits.
• 53:46
  And of course I try biochemically to understand the mechanism of action.
• 53:50
  but I really cares about the benefit.
• 53:52
  So I count stem cells in the blood and I can show these plants put more stem cells in circulation.
• 53:57
  I love that you do that, right?
• 53:59
  And again, this comes back to avoiding stress.
• 54:05
  This plant is being stressed in a certain way and underneath that process, it's bioaccumulating information, right?
• 54:14
  Wisdom, if you will, that...
• 54:17
  connects to the body because if you take it out of the place where it was originally meant to be, there's a wisdom, there's biochemistry, there's mycorrhizae, there's all kinds of things, right, that can be lost.
• 54:31
  So you can't just, you know, and some of the greatest humans with the greatest impact were in very stressful environments and they adapted and they rose above it and the environment didn't ruin them, the environment...
• 54:43
  made them who they are and to have that impact.
• 54:46
  So the last question.
• 54:49
  So it's beautiful.
• 54:50
  And then where they can find you and access this product, because I think everyone is very curious at this point.
• 54:55
  I know I'm really excited.
• 54:56
  And stemregen.co, stemregen.co.
• 54:59
  This is where we have the products that I've developed, all the information.
• 55:03
  And on social media, Stem Cell Christian.
• 55:05
  Instagram, TikTok, and I share tons of topics.
• 55:09
  You have questions.
• 55:10
  You can leave a comment and my team will get it back to me.
• 55:13
  You're an amazing communicator and teacher, and I love that about your channel.
• 55:16
  And some people have shared it with me, and it's fun.
• 55:19
  It's fun to watch, so you should definitely check it out.
• 55:22
  There's a concern you have in the world today, right?
• 55:25
  I know that you operate on a different way of thinking, but if you did have a concern for humanity, right?
• 55:33
  Because not everyone believes how you believe or how I believe, or we all have different...
• 55:37
  but if you have a concern for humanity, what would that be?
• 55:41
  And what would you do to kind of help people along to see a little better?
• 55:46
  I'll just quote Andre Malraux, French writer, who said the 21st century will be spiritual or will not be.
• 55:52
  I think we just need to stop living in ideas that create all the conflicts and just get deeper into the oneness where we're all the same and we can all get along.
• 56:04
  Yeah.
• 56:05
  That'll make a big change.
• 56:06
  We're hopefully being, we're gonna either adapt or die, right?
• 56:11
  That's right.
• 56:12
  So it's been a pleasure and honor.
• 56:14
  My pleasure.
• 56:14
  I know you got to move on to another speaking engagement.
• 56:17
  So it's been a pleasure, brother.
• 56:18
  Thank you for being on the show.