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Episode 29 | Monday Night Rewind | JohnBoy Hotchkiss | VanAvery Memorial Race · Top Row Racing Media Monday Night Rewind

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  What's up race fans, It is Monday and it is time for the
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  Monday night rewind live on top row racing media presented by
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  ELH detailing and Federated auto parts Another big show on Monday
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  for you. We have John boy Hotchkiss from
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  the Tri excuse me tri-state sprints joining us at 7 O 5:00
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  PM to recap their season talk. Everything going on in that
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  awesome series up in Michigan. And then we have at 745 talking
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  to Van Avery Memorial. Justin Leroy will join us to
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  talk about the big race up at Galesburg in honor of a great
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  racing family. So great show as always.
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  I'm joined as always by the man in the top row himself.
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  Louis knows I'm Buju. By the way, I did not introduce
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  myself in the intro. Very unprofessional.
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  But yeah, joined by Louis. How are we doing tonight, Louis?
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  Good, I actually got sleep. More sleep than I needed,
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  because now I'm behind. But I got sleep.
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  How about you? I, I did sleep, but I'm, I'm
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  still tired. I don't know.
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  This was an exhausting weekend for just being a one track
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  weekend for me. I don't, I'm not sure where all
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  my energy went, but it sure zapped out.
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  It was, maybe it was 'cause it's so dusty at the track this
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  weekend. I think the I think my allergies
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  have shifted into high gear. Well, now this week it's hot
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  again, right? So we kind of went from a little
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  cool to now we're inching back up in the temperatures and so
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  and now we're kind of in a rain pattern again where it's just
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  rain, rain, rain, all the rain. But it was a great weekend
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  though. I mean, I know it kind of it
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  rained on everyone's parade a little bit over it in 40, but
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  the the Sizzler got everything in that late model race was 37
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  minutes long and the first half was 19 minutes long.
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  So they had a few cautions here and there that kind of changed
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  some things up. But otherwise 37 minutes long.
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  It's like, but then you get into the spot where I'm like, OK, my
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  camera batteries were not an issue, but the heat inside the
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  late miles 'cause they obviously going out as a second race of
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  the day when we started at 6:00, which everything started on time
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  when we start, you know then and then modified race didn't take
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  too long. It's like OK, it's still the
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  heat of the day and now the late miles are going to get super
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  hot. So add some that the footage
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  froze, but then but the sound still goes.
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  So there's some repairs I can kind of do to that, but
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  sometimes it just doesn't repair at all.
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  And then I have others that survive the whole time.
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  So it's just kind of now figuring out who survived, who
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  didn't, and but the batteries did.
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  So I'm like, I can't win no matter what, right?
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  Kalamazoo batteries die, but a lot of the footage survived.
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  But this time it's like camera survived or the battery
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  survived, but some of the footage didn't.
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  So it's just, it's one of those things that you're just, you're
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  not going to win everything all the time.
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  But but that Sizzler race was awesome.
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  I I at one time I turned around to Andy Lynn because she was on
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  the roof with Mac Michael McIntyre and I for a lot of the
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  night they went wow. I mean, it was just non,
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  non-stop action everywhere. Congratulations to Jacob
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  Maynard, who pulled off that big win right after Ronnie Maynard,
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  a junior, pulled off his win. And then they also another
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  Maynard almost pulled off the win at the at the end of the
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  night. So I don't know if that's
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  happened before. I, I know we've had two maynards
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  win in the same night, but I don't know if we've had three.
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  So that was or, or I mean, three would have been the the sweep.
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  But but you know, they were all hooked up and everything and
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  Ronnie was very relaxed. I talked to him before the race
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  and because I any chance I can I try to get him to.
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  Connect with him. He's the man.
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  Yeah, and he's like, well, there's just a lot of good
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  competition. I'm like, but this is your turf,
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  you know, like, and, and there was, I mean, Gattons were out
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  there. You had Landis out there.
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  Oh my goodness. Jason #4 Wars.
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  Katie goes in right now. But he's also from Ohio area.
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  He was out there just a lot and then that that, like I said that
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  that Outlaw race, though you and I have talked about this before,
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  the Outlaws, you get one or the other.
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  It's either a really solid race or it's a Bucky race.
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  It's like there's no no in between it.
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  Seems so. For the record, before we move
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  on to the podcast, it wouldn't be the money and I rewind and it
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  wouldn't be the digital scrapbook of short track racing
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  if it wasn't storming for one of us.
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  It is thunderstorming in South Bend right now.
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  Yeah, so he got that and and that's where outside, you can
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  kind of tell because you're behind me, right, So that I'm
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  facing towards like the South Bend area, the laptop is.
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  And I get to watch the sunset over Lake MI.
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  Not to brag, but it is sunny over the lake.
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  It's not quite sunny above me, but over the lake I can see the
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  sunshine and so I know it's coming, but it's also setting at
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  the same time, like it's not going to be sunny too much
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  longer. So if I disappear, I didn't get
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  bored. I promise there's some loud
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  Thunder out there right now. So for the record.
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  Yeah, Oh, the the Thunder booms were good.
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  They were some good ones that came in and so, well, that's
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  where kudos to new pairs. They swapped the schedule around
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  where they saw rain was coming and so they said, let's put the
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  outlaws second and then kudos to reveal the hammer for being
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  flexible to do that. And and then, you know, they got
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  everything in and then it after 10 minutes or so after Jerry won
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  the the limited race, after he won that race, then it started
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  sprinkling. So, I mean, they didn't have a
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  lot of wiggle room, but I like I.
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  Over this way we got for about 10 minutes.
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  So we were getting very sparse, big fat heavy drops.
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  That's that's all we got over here so.
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  Yeah, so it was very so I but I know M40 looks soaked, you know,
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  I think they got a little bit of a soaker so especially on.
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  Championship night that really. Yep.
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  Which reminds me of before we bring John Boy in.
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  I did post it officially today, but you know, I sent an open
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  invite, which we talked about last week.
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  I sent an open invite on Facebook to champions from
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  wherever it doesn't matter you you can be in Ohio, you can be
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  in Wisconsin, wherever it is that you want to be or that you
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  are. And we'll set up 15 minute
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  segments on a Monday and it's going to take a couple Mondays.
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  So I do want to spread them out too.
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  But I want to do some championship edition Monday
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  night rewinds just to give people a chance to come on, talk
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  about their season briefly think their marketing partners and
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  everything. Because I mean, one thing too
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  that and when we think about the rewind and what we've been able
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  to build over 20 now 2028 full episodes working on 29 is, you
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  know, just on the top row Facebook page itself, which
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  we're only live on top Rd. tonight.
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  National compacts on Connect for me, 94,000 views just on this
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  channel, top row. That doesn't include adding in
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  the time that we were live on Hartford, the time we were live
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  on new pairs, the time we were live on other pages, just on top
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  row itself, 94,000 views. And in the same time frame, the
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  next closest podcast was 34 or yeah, 34,000 behind in the 60s.
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  So you know, that just kind of shows that what we've been able
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  to build over this time on Facebook.
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  I know YouTube keeps kind of inching up on the views there.
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  Spotify, it kind of is like a roller coaster right now.
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  It just depends on the episode, but but again, that's just
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  pretty cool. But it's also like, hey, this
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  this show will bring you a lot of exposure.
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  I I don't want to guarantee exposure, but it will bring you
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  the opportunity and this ecosystem, you know, to
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  definitely get out there far and wide.
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  So so hopefully, you know, champions take advantage of
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  that. It for you to them to do right.
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  They just come on on or come on in.
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  And you know, we're very laid back.
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  As I was telling John Boy, who we're bringing on here in just a
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  second that, you know, this is a shoot first, aim second show.
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  Like, you know, imagine you're sitting in the pit pit area
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  having a cold one shooting the breeze.
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  As someone who before was a host on the show, was a guest on the
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  show, I understand the inclination to be nervous when
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  you're coming on. But man, I promise you, there's
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  no reason to be nervous to come to come on the show, I swear to
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  you. No.
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  And you know, we'll have audio flops from time to time.
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  We'll have all these other things from time to time.
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  So like. Yeah, I knock my mic over every
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  other week or my every other week.
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  It's so, yeah, we're real. Over here.
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  Yep. But other than that, after John
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  Boy, I'll do a schedule update just to let everyone know.
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  Again, this Thursday is our final weekly episode of the
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  Thursday Night Thunder copyright infringement letter coming soon.
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  But Thursday Night Throttle. And then I do have the full
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  schedule that takes us to almost November, just to give people an
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  idea of when they can see us and mark it down.
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  And don't forget the Monday Night Rewind is not live next
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  Monday because of Labor Day weekend.
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  We were live on Memorial Day. But I feel like with Labor Day,
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  a lot of people are still traveling, coming back, doing
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  different things. So we're going to be live next
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  Wednesday for the Monday night Rewind.
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  I'm not changing the logo or the name.
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  It will be the Monday night Rewind just a few days later.
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  But maybe somewhere it's Monday in the world, a case of the
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  Mondays for somebody. But go ahead and bring on John
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  Boy since you're just a few minutes behind.
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  But I thought, you know, some housekeeping notes, some shout
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  outs, some, you know, different things that we can do.
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  But again, Michigan Motorsports Hall of Famer and tri-state
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  Sprint's owner John Boy Hotchkiss, let's go ahead and
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  bring him on and let's talk tri-state Sprint.
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  So John Boy, again, welcome to the Monday Night Rewind.
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  So excited to have you. Well, hello everybody, and
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  thanks guys and congratulations on your success.
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  What an honor. Thanks to the opportunity here.
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  Well, it's and it's our honor. You're a Hall of Famer, right?
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  So you have a legendary career that not only have you lived,
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  but now you continue to give back to the sport and bringing,
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  you know, the Sprint cars to tracks all around the area.
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  And and I'm so excited to talk about the tri-state sprints.
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  Not only were you guys the first marketing partner of Top Row
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  Racing Media jumped on without hesitation as the very first
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  right, But then your shows. I was so impressed with what you
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  did at Springport a few years ago when I first saw you guys in
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  2024. And then you get a chance to see
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  you at Kalamazoo this year and Corrigan Oil.
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  I hope that if we have track owners or promoters who are
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  listening that you know after tonight they give a they give it
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  a thought about bringing the tri-state Sprints.
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  Because when you guys give your tagline the most competitive
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  Sprint car show on asphalt, you're not lying.
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  Like there's video evidence that would support your claim.
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  It's not just, you know, you get tracks that say world's fastest,
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  world's fastest. You're like, well, there can
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  only be like so many world's fastest, right?
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  And you know, and you got like South Bend and Slinger fighting
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  over that title for world's fastest quarter mile.
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  And then you have half miles fighting over world's fastest
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  half miles. But but your Sprint car shows
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  definitely competitive if. And so we'll talk about what
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  that looks like too. But before we get there, John
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  Boy, I always like to start off with what I call the softball
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  question of the night. And that's just for those who
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  are watching who may not know who you are and how you earn the
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  honor to be a Michigan Motorsports Hall of Famer.
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  Who is John Boy Hotchkiss? Well, thanks for that
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  opportunity. I've been around this quite a
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  bit. It all started out when I would
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  visit my aunt and uncle down by Butler in between school years
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  and we'd always go to Butler and and enjoy the races there.
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  The Jack Sharps and the tailors, those kind of people.
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  I had to sit up in the stands back then and I'll never forget
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  it. I was jumping up and down and
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  cheering on Jack Sharp and those guys, and my aunt looked over at
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  me and says you know that they can't hear you, don't you?
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  That that. Ruined it.
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  That was that was really hurt then, but racing won the same
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  after that. And but then eventually a Butch
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  Dalker and couple other friends and I built a late model back in
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  73. Butch Phoea drove up for us in
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  74 and then the two bushes went on and built another car and I
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  had my car to sell or let somebody drive or try it myself
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  and what the heck, I'll give it a shot.
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  And got rookie of the year at Butler Speedway in 75 there for
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  my number. And then it just progressed from
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  there. And then it went asphalt racing
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  with a late model. And and then I was whining to my
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  car partner, George Goffson, about having to stay at one
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  track all the time. He said, well, you know, if he
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  was in Sprint cars with me, we could travel.
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  So he found me a car and I put my late model engine in it and
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  got rookie of the year and sod in 92.
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  Wow. And then when Tony Nozo branched
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  off with AVSS on asphalt, I followed that, stayed on the
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  asphalt and raced myself till 2011.
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  And then I had a chance to put some other guys in in my car
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  like John Turnbull Junior and and got him hooked on it.
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  And it just happened again here a couple weeks ago at at
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  Corrigan, the Waldo Brinski, who John Trudell has been trying to
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  get him into Sprint cars along with the rest of us.
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  And he finally jumped in in Georgia, mine's car the and took
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  that out for a ride at Owosso. And that smile hasn't left
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  since. And so he ended up driving it at
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  at Corrigan that Friday night, won his heat race first thing.
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  And then we ran second to Quinton for a few laps till his
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  brakes started fading. But what a that that hits right
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  here that that I can bring these guys on and continue.
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  And so in 2015, well, actually it was 2010, Joe Dorr oh
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  nominated me for rookie for Hall of Fame, and it took about five
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  years for me to finally get in there.
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  But what an honor I'm I'm still bossing off the ceiling to be
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  inducted in Michigan Motorsports Hall of Fame.
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  And now I find myself as vice president of such to Dave Deham.
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  So just gets deeper than, I don't know, I guess I was bored
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  or something. I I need a little bit more to
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  do. And I was paying attention to
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  the Super modified. So they were getting around with
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  the 10 inch tires. I was impressed by all that I
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  said if they can do it, why can't a Sprint car?
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  So with the edging, the the pushing from a number of people,
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  I thought I'll give a shot and then try this promoting deal.
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  Well, that's a lot harder than driving if I had to do it over.
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  I'm glad I. Did it it's just I, I always go
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  by crawl, walk, run and I think I'm crawling a little faster
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  now. Finally we we had 10 shows
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  scheduled this year. Of course, Auto City had a fire
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  last December and they didn't get ready in time for any shows
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  and Springport change hands. We lost a show there, lost a
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  show in Canada for the economy and we lost Birch Run for for
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  the rain. But we had five more I can't see
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  with it's only 5. We had five more awesome races
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  this year that I'm just so proud of the guys of and nobody won
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  from the front row and it it all came from probably the 3rd or
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  4th row. Averaged 4 passes for the lead
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  through throughout the year. And it's just it is a very
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  competitive situation with these American racers on the card in
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  different ways. We got Sprint cars with small
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  engines with big tires and we got all open Sprint cars with
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  big engines on small tires. And to add into it, I invited
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  the Super modifieds with their narrow tires from the 350
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  Outlaws Supers and and the Lorraine Sandusky area.
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  So that's it and kind of a nutshell.
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  I'm I'm already talking to tracks for next year.
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  It's exciting. It I'd like to have my schedule
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  done by Thanksgiving, But so I don't know.
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  But it's it's a challenge, but it's been interesting and it's
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  it's smoothing out. Well, and that's where again,
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  you have a really solid team, you know behind you where you
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  know Sean Sprague is your announcer and and helps with a
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  lot of things. Of course you got the great and
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  wonderful David Howe and Dora, you know, who are just
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  phenomenal people too. You have Chuck, you know, on
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  there on the team. And I hope I'm not forgetting
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  anybody. I I don't feel like I forgot
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  somebody. You know who's with you?
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  Keisha Howell. What the hell?
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  Yeah, Keisha, how I now? She'll slap me next time.
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  She'll lay out. Yeah, yeah, because that that
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  now that's shame on me that I forgot her, but because her and
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  I got to connect when David was in the hospital and excuse me,
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  but that's where, you know, you have a really solid team.
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  You know, it's not a huge team, but you have a solid team.
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  And sometimes it's not about Quan, you know, it's not about
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  that quantity, but it's the quality of people who you have
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  with you. And obviously, I mean, your cars
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  are on the track when they're supposed to be, they're off.
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  Exactly. You know, you know when they're
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  supposed to be. That means communication's
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  happening, things are happening. And you know, what a lot of
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  people may not understand about this tri-state group is that,
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  yes, it's a tri-state sprints. But as you talked, we have super
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  modifieds that are in here like AJ Lasecki, obviously a very
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  accomplished driver. Then you have, you know, Andrew
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  Bogus, who's driving the smaller Sprint car engine.
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  And then you have, you know, like Jason Blonde who's racing
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  the larger engine and, you know, doing his thing, right.
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  And so, you know, you've used tires to balance that out where
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  you know, if someone wants to race, all these super modifieds
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  are going to blow out these cars.
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  Hold on, folks, you know, you're in for a great race in at
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  Corrigan, a tight quarter mile. That was so fun to watch them do
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  that. Watch AJ battle up front at
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  Kalamazoo. Andrew Bogus was kind of in
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  Sturgis, You know, when people, you know, before that yellow
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  flag came out, he was already, you know, getting ready to load
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  up the trailer and everything. And then that yellow came out
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  and that helped Jason Blonde catch up and that brought the
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  field tight again. But you know, small Sprint car
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  was they was battling, you know, with these super modifieds in
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  the larger Sprint cars. So again, that's something that
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  you know, you've been able to use like American racers, which
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  you're going full time next year.
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  You're not doing any more like Hoosier stuff.
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  You're going all in on American racer that you know, you're able
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  to balance that kind of deal. And so when you think about the
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  tracks that you want to go to, you know, especially for maybe
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  promoters and owners who might be listening to the show, like
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  what what kind of tracks are you looking for on your schedule or
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  are ideal for your series? And you know, what's the kind of
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  like the setup that you're willing to share, Like, you
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  know, who helps cover the purse or who, you know, is there an
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  appearance fee or you know, whatever that may you don't you
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  don't have to give specific numbers or anything.
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  We're not going to quote you on that, but you know, you can kind
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  of divvy like here's how it works, Here's what we do, here's
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  what the tracks do, here's what Tri-state does.
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  Yeah, it's right. Now we're finding ourselves on
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  bank quarter miles, flat quarter miles, same way with a 3/8 both
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  ways. We're we're not jumping on the
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  Winchester's and Salem's, but we'll run pretty much anything
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  else. Whoever will will talk and
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  communicate with me. I'm not that hard to find and
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  you know, I've, I've been helping out with with a lot of
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  the purse just just to get into some of these tracks and get get
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  our feet in there. What a what a thrill.
• 22:21
  But to go back to the the different car parodies, Andrew
• 22:25
  Bogus had the guys covered at Anderson until his stop broke on
• 22:33
  his torsion bar. Yeah, that was that tore him up
• 22:38
  big time. But we've had a variety and
• 22:40
  we've had a lot of all three cars have been in the top three,
• 22:46
  a different one in each place there.
• 22:49
  But it, it's just when I come up with that most competitive, I
• 22:54
  just kind of threw that out there.
• 22:56
  But it's, it's, it's coming to true.
• 23:00
  Well, that's where again, you're living it, right.
• 23:02
  And that, and I think that's the thing that, you know, sometimes
• 23:06
  when people see monikers or whatever, like, yeah, everyone
• 23:09
  says that. But you know, promoters promote
• 23:11
  as we, as we sometimes hear people say our owners are gonna,
• 23:14
  you know, you're right, 'cause that's your job, right?
• 23:16
  Is to promote your, you know, you wanna make it sound like
• 23:18
  it's the best seat in the house and the best show to go.
• 23:21
  But then you get there and you're like, you know, you could
• 23:24
  sit there and, you know, kind of do like a Vince McMahon, you
• 23:27
  know, printing money in a way where you're like, you know,
• 23:29
  these guys are living this, right?
• 23:31
  They're showing that we are the most competitive.
• 23:33
  And and I think when you walk away from that, it's not just a
• 23:37
  promoter promoting, it's the drivers who are doing the
• 23:40
  showing that says, like, you need to watch us.
• 23:44
  And your format's even unique. It's not just here's a heat
• 23:47
  race. OK, check mark.
• 23:49
  Your heat races matter, you know, just like the dirt site.
• 23:52
  So if you want to talk a little bit about your format and what
• 23:54
  makes the tri-state Sprint so unique to what I can watch on a
• 23:58
  Friday night at a track where here's your 65 heat race.
• 24:01
  Congratulations, we got the heat races done.
• 24:03
  Here's our 15 minute intermission.
• 24:05
  Congratulations, we got that check mark done.
• 24:07
  Now here's our features, right? So if you want to describe your
• 24:10
  format a little bit. Well-being in racing for so long
• 24:14
  I had I had drathers and and what I wanted to see is is a
• 24:22
  fan. You know, I, I, I put myself in
• 24:24
  the fans place. Well, they want to see and
• 24:26
  that's passing. So I don't start fast guys up
• 24:30
  front until they start sandbagging or something like
• 24:36
  that, which Sprint car, sprints car people don't, but they're,
• 24:40
  they, they know I need to show. The fans want to show.
• 24:45
  But I will have the guys qualify.
• 24:48
  And then the, the even qualifiers 1357 like that will
• 24:55
  be totally inverted in the first heat and the even qualifiers
• 24:59
  will be totally inverted in the second heat.
• 25:02
  And that's how they line up on the feature.
• 25:06
  And then Jeff Bloom was kind enough to build me a die with a
• 25:12
  six 8 or 10 on it. The winner of the first heat
• 25:15
  will roll that die and six, eight or ten will will invert
• 25:23
  the the front of the field the the feature line up after that.
• 25:26
  So you you got to be you got to be good.
• 25:30
  Yeah, got to be fast and then you got to be lucky.
• 25:34
  So it it's really worked out good.
• 25:36
  It means something in the heat races.
• 25:39
  So it's it's all about the fans see in passing and trying to
• 25:46
  figure out who's going to do what was which combination.
• 25:51
  This this all started back. I, I want to name this Trisac
• 25:55
  because back in the day that's what they were known for is
• 26:00
  everybody running together. But I came up with this
• 26:03
  Tri-state Sprints was as close as I'm going to get to Trisac
• 26:08
  and, and, and they put on some great shows and, and that's what
• 26:12
  I demand and, and to have a good time.
• 26:14
  I have fun and no complaints is is what it's all about.
• 26:22
  I, I don't hear complaints. So this is good.
• 26:27
  Well, and being in your pity area, definitely got to see
• 26:30
  that. I mean, Walt, as you mentioned
• 26:33
  at Corgan, he was so Dang happy when he came over because I so
• 26:37
  Andre Newman said So what do you think?
• 26:40
  And what that's what Walt looked like.
• 26:42
  He was at Walt Disney World, you know, like he was so happy, you
• 26:47
  know, to talk about that and how he loves it and everything.
• 26:49
  And obviously, you know, they're in they're involved in the
• 26:52
  modified scene too, you know, but he was all about that John
• 26:55
  Trudell, right, who's very tradition and a late model has
• 26:59
  loved his time in the Sprint cars and is going more towards
• 27:02
  the Sprint car side of things. Obviously Spring Port people
• 27:04
  would know all about John Trudell, but again, I think
• 27:08
  that's what stands out is that the commodity, you know, in that
• 27:11
  pit area where you know, everyone's laid back and hanging
• 27:14
  out and shooting the breeze. And even after the race, they're
• 27:17
  hanging out shooting the breeze, you know, having a cold one when
• 27:20
  they legally can. And, and, and I think that
• 27:23
  stands out because, you know, there's even if something
• 27:27
  happened on the track, which in the times I've seen you, you're
• 27:31
  serious, nothing luckily has happened.
• 27:33
  But you know, I know you guys had talked about one situation
• 27:36
  where like it got talked out. There's no yelling, there's no
• 27:39
  shouting. There is no, because you're, you
• 27:41
  weren't going to put up with that kind of stuff.
• 27:43
  So, you know, and I think that goes a long ways.
• 27:47
  That's from experience. But yeah, going back to John
• 27:50
  Trudell, we did the same thing we did with the Wall is did a
• 27:55
  test session and then he ended up buying the car and Walt did
• 28:00
  same thing. We had George, my car partner,
• 28:02
  George Gusson and I, who is the oldest Sprint car driver at
• 28:06
  least in the state, and he won last year.
• 28:10
  So it's quite a variety. But we we got walled in that
• 28:16
  way. And Ike Beasley, I got him
• 28:19
  involved back in the day. So I've I've achieved a lot of
• 28:26
  different, a lot of different avenues here.
• 28:30
  And then I put on euchre parties in between.
• 28:34
  During the winter I used to get about 60 people in my shop here
• 28:40
  playing euchre. Yeah, well, there you.
• 28:45
  Go do it all. So I'm going to kick over to
• 28:48
  Buju because I know he's been quiet for a little bit.
• 28:50
  So I'm going to let him kick in because I don't think he has
• 28:53
  seen a tri-state Sprint show yet, unless I'm wrong.
• 28:56
  So he pretends to be John Boy. I know you, you may not know
• 28:59
  this. He pretends to be a front wheel
• 29:00
  drive racer sometimes, but he has he has been announced right
• 29:03
  in new Paris and did really well with that.
• 29:05
  And obviously he has his Buju bowl rings and all that.
• 29:07
  So he's definitely on the the announcer side and media side
• 29:11
  kind of things too. So I'm going to definitely kick
• 29:13
  over to him so he can he can learn more about you and Tri
• 29:16
  states because he would be a potential fan who would get to
• 29:19
  see you for the first time in 2027.
• 29:22
  So we go to New Paris. Yeah, I'm trying.
• 29:26
  So that I mean that's always kind of on my complaint with
• 29:28
  John Boy growing up around here with traveling series open wheel
• 29:33
  racing coming in, there's a lot of time that they either didn't
• 29:34
  bring car counts or it was spread out and it wasn't
• 29:37
  competitive racing. So you mentioned that you have
• 29:40
  the most competitive Sprint cars on in the area right now at all
• 29:43
  asphalt. So what goes into making them
• 29:45
  more more competitive and why is your series tireder than the
• 29:47
  other ones? Well, that tire, it's, it's the
• 29:52
  whole answer. That's one thing.
• 29:55
  I promised the guys that we would have more economical tires
• 30:00
  and they're a they're a great tire.
• 30:05
  You know, going back to the low horsepower, big tire, big
• 30:09
  horsepower, a little tire. It's, you know, I've had to
• 30:13
  tweak it. So I'm no doubt and maybe even
• 30:17
  some more, but I, I think we're on to something that'll last
• 30:21
  right now. It it, but, but that tire is, is
• 30:25
  just the evener. That's, that's what it's all
• 30:30
  about. I mean, it's work for a number
• 30:32
  of other serieses. People would come up to me and
• 30:35
  said, well, that don't look right with that little tire on
• 30:39
  there and I'll tell them, well, that big tire don't look right.
• 30:43
  So I'll do a little bantering there.
• 30:47
  Because you're smaller sprints use the traditional like I think
• 30:52
  this year is the big Hoosier that people would normally
• 30:55
  expect on like world of Isle or whatever, like that big thick
• 30:58
  tire. But then, you know, your super
• 31:00
  modifieds are like, you know, like it's just a little.
• 31:04
  And yes, it does look different, you know, compared to what you
• 31:07
  might expect to see. But but as you said, you know
• 31:11
  the booze you sing with, you know that the way you bounce the
• 31:14
  Hoosiers and now you're going all in on American racer like
• 31:17
  that is leveled at playing field because no one can just outrun
• 31:21
  the other would between engine and tire.
• 31:24
  The only time the fans see that little tire is when they're in
• 31:27
  the pits out. There in the race.
• 31:29
  Track. That all goes away.
• 31:33
  The fans. The fans.
• 31:34
  Are trying to see the racing and if the tire makes for good
• 31:37
  racing then it's working out for everybody right it?
• 31:40
  Is yeah, it's work good for the supers.
• 31:42
  I mean, they're they're even running a class of them out to
• 31:46
  Oswego, a super modified class out there and Star Speedway.
• 31:52
  So it's it's all over. It's just I'm the first Sprint
• 31:55
  car group to do it. Did you get any pushback from
• 31:59
  your guys when you're combined the Super modifieds into the
• 32:01
  into the series or was it? No, no, not really.
• 32:11
  No, there, there wasn't any problem with, with bringing
• 32:14
  different. In fact, they encouraged it
• 32:17
  because that brought more people.
• 32:19
  And, and I, I, I keep saying, you know, let's whatever it
• 32:24
  takes to make the fan happy. And, and they, they, you know,
• 32:31
  they was all willing to try it. And so far so good.
• 32:36
  Yeah. And I almost think it's a
• 32:38
  throwback to the to the older days of racing in a way where
• 32:41
  you had some creativity in cars and you had different looking
• 32:43
  cars on the racetrack at the same time.
• 32:45
  So yeah, I think that I think that's another A+ to the series
• 32:48
  that might make me a fan of the Tri States.
• 32:50
  Prince when I. Don't have AI, don't have a
• 32:52
  bunch of rules either. Safety rules and these tires and
• 32:57
  and 10 inch wheels on two corners and 12 inch tire or
• 33:03
  wheels on the other two corners for stagger and to flatten out
• 33:07
  the tire a bit. But I I guess the KISS in my
• 33:12
  name stands for more than the end of my name is keep it
• 33:16
  simple, stupid. I I was.
• 33:21
  I was born to use that. Name well, now I'm never I'm
• 33:29
  going I'm never not going to Unsee that now you know I'm
• 33:32
  going to see you know Hotchkiss and I'm going to and it's going
• 33:35
  to just come back to me each time I hadn't I hadn't put that
• 33:38
  together, but now that you said it, it's just going to be there
• 33:42
  now. Now I'm just that's what I'm
• 33:43
  going to see is again, that's where your series is just so
• 33:48
  incredible. So I guess when you live by your
• 33:51
  own rule, keep it simple, stupid, then you really can't
• 33:55
  mess it up. Well, and a lot of it is I, I
• 33:58
  demand having fun. You know, it's just, it's been
• 34:02
  so serious and, and some of these other divisions and
• 34:06
  series, it just, and I see all this stuff because I've been at
• 34:10
  it for so long that I know what I want to change to make the
• 34:16
  the, the competitors and the fans happier.
• 34:21
  Buju, any other questions that you had or thoughts?
• 34:23
  What? When was it that you you jumped
• 34:25
  out of the race car, John Boy? When did you stop racing?
• 34:27
  I, my last shot was in 2011 at at Oregon with it when we were
• 34:33
  running non wing there. I had a knee replacement all
• 34:39
  that year and, and actually it was my left knee and that that
• 34:44
  brake pedal really helped in the rehab part.
• 34:49
  But then actually Gary Fiedwag got a hold of me for the 2012
• 34:56
  season that he had a young man down in North Carolina that Tim,
• 35:04
  Gary's nephew Tim spotted with and they he had a sponsor.
• 35:13
  He came up here and drove my non wing car.
• 35:15
  Then it was all about putting people in my cars after that and
• 35:20
  kind of still doing that because George and I will.
• 35:22
  Well, we bought Chris Jagger out and that's the car that Walter
• 35:26
  Brinski now has and we bought Billy's Heaney out and that's
• 35:34
  the car that John Trudell has. So we just we just buy and sell
• 35:40
  and have a good time at it. It's all about having fun.
• 35:44
  That's right. That's that's what I love about
• 35:45
  racers. They might get out of the car,
• 35:46
  but they never really stop racing.
• 35:48
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I, you know, George is
• 35:52
  doing it at 77. I wouldn't be afraid to get back
• 35:55
  into it. There you go.
• 35:56
  Hey, that'll give me my next question if watching the the
• 35:58
  great racing that your series put on puts on ever makes you
• 36:01
  miss being in the car? Oh absolutely it does.
• 36:03
  But I promised myself that I wouldn't race in my series
• 36:07
  because I've seen past track owners racing at their own track
• 36:16
  and it, it, it's just not a, a healthy situation.
• 36:22
  So I I promised myself I'd stay out of I might do some hot
• 36:26
  laughing or something, but no one.
• 36:30
  It never knows. How can someone get into the
• 36:35
  tri-state Sprint? So I know you talked like you
• 36:37
  have a couple house cars that you have display cars and that
• 36:40
  kind of deal. So how can somebody find a
• 36:44
  Sprint car, find a super modified to join in on the
• 36:47
  tri-state sprints? Well, I know where there's a
• 36:49
  bunch of them for sale. I'm trying to.
• 36:53
  I try to keep one in stock. Working on a deal right now.
• 36:56
  I might possibly get another. I'm sold out right now.
• 37:01
  Now Quentin's car is here. We I'll let him keep that up
• 37:05
  while he's here from South Africa and and win our series.
• 37:10
  Our driver's point fund was won by him.
• 37:14
  I'm out of cars right now, but I've got a line on a on a couple
• 37:19
  more. But you know, just get a hold of
• 37:20
  me Tri-state sprints or yeah, you can go right to to that or
• 37:29
  my phone number is 517-512-4313. But I'm not hard to find in
• 37:39
  Potterville. So not too far from David, you
• 37:43
  know David Howe and Beacon Sales on service.
• 37:46
  About 10 minutes, yeah. So I know you guys hang out
• 37:50
  quite often and talk about the series and talk about different
• 37:53
  things. And why don't you talk a little
• 37:55
  bit about, as we get ready to wrap up here, why don't you talk
• 37:58
  a little bit about the sponsors who marketing partners, whatever
• 38:01
  you want to call them, who have joined, you know, who have
• 38:03
  jumped on this season to help the Tri-state Sprints get around
• 38:07
  Michigan and Indiana. Right, Well, sorry, Joy Barnhill
• 38:14
  has has chipped in and I I figured he's going to be a
• 38:18
  lifelong a sponsor here, but Dave and Dora from Beacon sales
• 38:25
  and service there in Charlotte and Keisha at the Hollywood
• 38:29
  Jacks and then George's girlfriend Debbie, her daughter.
• 38:39
  I can't remember the name of the company right now, of course,
• 38:42
  but it they're up in Ludington, so it's not a really close place
• 38:46
  anyway. They're kind of a off the a
• 38:49
  beaten path type of sponsor, but one of the major sponsors once
• 38:56
  again, they can can get a hold of me through Facebook or phone,
• 39:03
  phone book to, to jump on board, like I said, to to get a car.
• 39:09
  You know, what we can do is is what we did with Wald is take
• 39:13
  him to Owosso and and hot lap the car and and see if it fits
• 39:18
  their their thought process and and run it and hook a hook
• 39:25
  another one. Yeah, I mean, like I said, Walt,
• 39:29
  when you saw him, he was just smiling ear to ear at Corrigan
• 39:35
  talking about that when Andre Newman asked him about it.
• 39:37
  And, and when you see someone who's that excited for
• 39:41
  something, especially someone who has done modified racing,
• 39:44
  has done other things and and had success, I mean that that
• 39:48
  says a lot. And sometimes the challenge is
• 39:51
  what makes it fun, right? Is it something different?
• 39:55
  And they don't. Yeah, he's.
• 39:58
  Been wanting to do this or for a long time but finally he got
• 40:03
  tipped over and Dave and Dora, they're just.
• 40:07
  Over the moon helping us out. I mean, they've been involved in
• 40:10
  a lot of series with a lot of great people, but they're having
• 40:14
  fun here and hell, Dave jumps on a on a quad and pushes cars
• 40:22
  around and they're, they're needed and and they enjoy being
• 40:26
  needed, so. Well, and even that push off at
• 40:31
  Corrigan, right, you only had a couple push off vehicles, which
• 40:34
  I know sometimes you have a Sprint show, you feel like you
• 40:36
  need a lot of them. But you know, you had the most
• 40:38
  car count of the season at Corrigan.
• 40:41
  That was 17. That crowd, right?
• 40:43
  That Friday crowd was the most that they've had all season
• 40:48
  across many of their shows. And then, you know, it didn't
• 40:52
  seem like it took that long. Like I went to go post a clip
• 40:55
  from the previous race and like, oh, Dang, they're already
• 40:57
  getting ready to line up. You know, I thought I would have
• 40:59
  had a few minutes there. And which is a little different
• 41:02
  on 1/4 mile versus and they have the Figure 8 to benefit from
• 41:06
  versus like at Kalamazoo where they have to go all the way back
• 41:08
  around and then all the way back around and then all the way back
• 41:11
  around, you know, But again, that was impressive too.
• 41:14
  And so I know you've been at Springport, which obviously is a
• 41:17
  large paper clip 3/8. You've been down to Corrigan
• 41:22
  Oil, which is that small Bullring quarter mile and so
• 41:26
  Anderson, Anderson Speedway down there with their banking.
• 41:30
  And so you've been around Kalamazoo.
• 41:33
  So obviously you've had a mix of tracks and, and hopefully for
• 41:36
  2027, some of these tracks in the area or maybe look do
• 41:40
  something different. Also, you have to just look at
• 41:42
  the pictures of the Corgan oil crowd when you came and go.
• 41:45
  What? What can your series do for a
• 41:47
  crowd? I call it the best racing crowd.
• 41:50
  Yeah, you, you're not going to beat the demolition destruction
• 41:53
  nights, but they definitely we brought the best racing crowd, I
• 41:58
  call it. Yeah, yeah.
• 42:01
  In same way with Whittemore, we went up there and they they had
• 42:07
  their best crowd. But Kalamazoo and and Anderson,
• 42:14
  yeah, I just when when promoted properly, it shows.
• 42:20
  And again, they if you want to give your phone number one more
• 42:23
  time, if track owners or promoters want to reach out,
• 42:26
  obviously they can reach to you on Facebook, Job boy Hotchkiss
• 42:28
  and obviously through tri-state sprints, they can also get a
• 42:31
  hold of you. But if you want to give your
• 42:32
  phone number one more time, like I told you, I I'm going to do
• 42:35
  everything I can and talking with Chris and Tracy down at New
• 42:40
  Paris. So maybe find a way, you know,
• 42:44
  even when I was walking the track and kind of looking at
• 42:46
  their wall and then kind of comparing it to Corrigan and
• 42:48
  Springport, I'm like, OK, maybe turn 4 is a little suspicious,
• 42:52
  but you know, the rest of the wall looked pretty decent, like
• 42:55
  any other wall. And so, you know, I know
• 42:59
  obviously anything can happen on any given night, but I like I
• 43:01
  I've told you, I'm going to do everything I can to see if we
• 43:04
  could get Tri states down the new pairs.
• 43:05
  But phone number that's. Yeah, that's 517-512-4313 And
• 43:14
  we, we've raced, you know, I've, I've been at New Paris, we've
• 43:18
  raced the Sprint cars there with auto value with a big tire.
• 43:22
  So it's not like Sprint cars haven't been there and we're,
• 43:27
  we're maybe 3/4 of a second slower than than the big tires.
• 43:33
  So that, that should help there. You know, I wouldn't be opposed
• 43:36
  to Toledo, but you know, the the Winchesters and the Salems,
• 43:43
  probably not, but New Paris and, you know, Plymouth, some of
• 43:50
  these, they just, you know, I don't hear back from them for
• 43:54
  some kind of reason. But the tracks that I have had
• 43:57
  races at and we'll be calling again have really enjoyed and
• 44:03
  we've enjoyed each other. I know Jim Leisure was so happy,
• 44:07
  and that was good to see too. You know, he was really
• 44:09
  impressed with your show. Well, it meant a lot to have you
• 44:13
  there with the media stuff and pumping us.
• 44:17
  So win, win, win. Yep.
• 44:21
  Well, again, that's where tri-state Sprint's the most
• 44:25
  competitive asphalt Sprint car show that you'll see, and they
• 44:29
  definitely live by that. And and again, with your Hall of
• 44:31
  Fame career now you're giving back in a whole nother way, you
• 44:34
  know, as a promoter, which is not the easiest thing to do in
• 44:37
  the world, but you know, you're doing it and you have a great
• 44:39
  group behind you. And so I, I'm, I'm excited to
• 44:42
  see where where things shake up and how they shake out as you
• 44:46
  get the 2027 season ready to go. Well, I appreciate your
• 44:51
  hospitality and and plugs. Oh, and we'll keep you doing it.
• 44:56
  I mean, I know just even if you watch spring ports 2023-2024,
• 45:02
  excuse me, 2024 race and then even, you know, compare that to
• 45:07
  Kalamazoo this year in Corgan oil.
• 45:09
  It's like, man, this was that was fun.
• 45:10
  Then I'd love how you did it and watch the Sprint cars at Spring
• 45:14
  Port was pretty awesome. And then obviously getting to
• 45:17
  see what you did this year at Kalamazoo.
• 45:19
  I know last year got rained out. This year you had a chance.
• 45:21
  Beautiful weather. And then at Corrigan I just that
• 45:25
  you only need video evidence to show what kind of show that you
• 45:28
  can bring and crowd. Obviously pictures help too
• 45:31
  'cause it's like OK, this is what it looked like before then
• 45:34
  this is what it looked like with them.
• 45:36
  And there was actually people in my camera shop, you know, so
• 45:40
  that means something, right? And so, you know, obviously all
• 45:44
  the contract details and all that for purse and pay, you
• 45:47
  know, pay and all that is a whole different ball game that
• 45:49
  you get to take care of that. We don't have to get in the
• 45:52
  details here, but I, I promise you, as someone who gets to
• 45:56
  travel around to different tracks and see different series
• 45:58
  and see different things, your your group is definitely
• 46:01
  exciting. So just keep doing what you're
• 46:03
  doing and building on that. And obviously with must see
• 46:06
  racing kind of, I don't wanna say dead, but obviously those
• 46:11
  front car drivers are looking for things to do.
• 46:13
  Maybe those guys can start looking over at tri-state
• 46:15
  sprints and joining you for a couple shows and travel around.
• 46:18
  Obviously Andrew Bogus could be one of those big poster people
• 46:21
  to talk about his transition from must see light sprints to
• 46:25
  tri-state. And I mean he's competitive.
• 46:27
  I think he took third in your point standings or?
• 46:29
  Yes, he did. So, you know, with the light
• 46:32
  Sprint against some of these big heavy hitters and and and
• 46:36
  everything. So it it's a fair game and Tri.
• 46:39
  State I've already heard from JJ Hennes or John Hennes that he
• 46:44
  probably had a couple more cars and Jeff Bloom told me he got a
• 46:48
  call about two more guys that'll be coming.
• 46:52
  And so I'm, I'm hearing from people, they're, they're excited
• 46:56
  and that excites me. So.
• 46:59
  Oh, absolutely. Well, again, John boy, thank you
• 47:02
  again for joining us tonight and taking time out of your Monday
• 47:05
  to talk about the tri-state Sprints.
• 47:08
  You've given your phone number, obviously they can find you on
• 47:10
  Facebook and you've given the the to find on tri-state Sprints
• 47:15
  on Facebook as well. So one way or another, people
• 47:17
  can get a hold of you to talk about the 2027 season as you
• 47:20
  start planning now. Absolutely.
• 47:23
  Yeah. Thank you guys for the for the
• 47:25
  efforts. I appreciate the opportunity
• 47:28
  once again. Well.
• 47:29
  Again, thank you, John Boy. And then and I'm sure we'll be
• 47:33
  talking soon. Yes, can't wait.
• 47:35
  We're going to have some meetings and you'll be invited
• 47:37
  to. It all right us awesome.
• 47:39
  If not, I'm going to give Sean Sprake a hard time, so thank
• 47:43
  you. I didn't get that text message?
• 47:45
  John Boy asked. And we'll give him heck, he'll.
• 47:50
  Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, we're gonna be getting him
• 47:53
  on soon. Like I was telling you that I'm
• 47:54
  gonna, I'm spreading it out. So we'll get him on soon.
• 47:57
  We'll get Andrew Bogus and then other drivers as we can to keep
• 47:59
  the tri-state sprints in the conversation as the winter goes
• 48:02
  on. So again, thank you for
• 48:04
  everything, John Boy. I'll be right back at you and
• 48:09
  absolutely I'm speechless for the opportunity here, but I
• 48:13
  think we got some points across. So give me a call.
• 48:16
  You tracks out there. Yep.
• 48:19
  Again, we've been talking with John Boy Hotchkiss, the owner of
• 48:22
  tri-state Sprints. You can find him on Facebook.
• 48:26
  You can also find him through tri-state Sprints.
• 48:28
  And he also gave his phone number, which once we're done
• 48:31
  live, you'll get to listen back to it.
• 48:34
  And you can find him probably often at Beacon Sales and
• 48:36
  Service just down the road from where he lives in Potterville,
• 48:40
  Michigan. So again, really exciting to
• 48:42
  have the Michigan Motorsports Hall of Famer John Boyd
• 48:46
  Hotchkiss with us and also the Vice President of the Hall of
• 48:49
  Fame, which you can find at Corrigan Oil Speedway right
• 48:54
  there at the front entrance. So Buju, before we bring on, I
• 48:57
  see we have Jesse Junior on and Justin Leroy's on.
• 49:01
  Just since we're getting near the top of the hour.
• 49:03
  I don't want to interrupt their interview time.
• 49:05
  So I do want to do the scheduling notes as we're
• 49:07
  getting ready for the upcoming weeks.
• 49:10
  As mentioned, Thursday, September 3rd, hardly believe
• 49:13
  it's already September is our is our final weekly Thursday
• 49:18
  episode of the Thursday Night Throttle where we preview the
• 49:20
  upcoming week. We're going to cut back and do a
• 49:24
  transition period where we go every other week.
• 49:26
  So again, Monday, September 7th, there's no Monday night episode
• 49:30
  because we will be here on Wednesday, September 9th for the
• 49:33
  Monday night Rewind. And yes, on a Wednesday it will
• 49:35
  be called the Monday Night Rewind.
• 49:37
  We will just get used to that. And then Thursday, September
• 49:40
  17th will be our next Thursday night Throttle, which is just
• 49:45
  before getting ready for Super Shoe and everything.
• 49:49
  And then Thursday, October 1st will be our next Thursday
• 49:53
  throttle after that, which is getting ready for Michigan Cup.
• 49:56
  And then Thursday, October 15th will be in the next throttle and
• 49:59
  that'll be right before the Bahama brackets down in Granite
• 50:02
  County Speedway and Morris, IL See Boozu how I'm doing this,
• 50:05
  trying to time it up with the big shows.
• 50:08
  And then Thursday, October 29th, just before Halloween spooky
• 50:11
  season, we will have our final every other Thursday night
• 50:16
  throttle. And then from there, November
• 50:19
  through March will be one Thursday episode a month, which
• 50:21
  right now I have tentatively scheduled for the second
• 50:25
  Thursday of each month. That way it avoids where all the
• 50:28
  holidays fall because obviously you get into Thanksgiving, then
• 50:31
  you're getting into Christmas and New Year's, Valentine's Day
• 50:34
  and all the things for those who celebrate Valentine's Day.
• 50:36
  And excuse me. And obviously that'll get us
• 50:39
  close to then the South Bend Auto Show, which is in April
• 50:45
  next year. But but I thought that kind of
• 50:49
  gives us a chance on a, you know, to talk maybe big things
• 50:52
  on those Thursday episodes. But I just wanted to give
• 50:54
  everyone an update on kind of where we're going and what we're
• 50:57
  doing as the Thursday night throttle phases out to be not
• 51:03
  all the time. And that opens up Thursdays for
• 51:05
  us. But otherwise Mondays, except
• 51:08
  for the 7th, Mondays will continue.
• 51:11
  That's not phasing out. This is the flagship show, the
• 51:14
  digital digital storybook of short track racing.
• 51:19
  And so if you're ready, we can bring on Jesse junior, Ben
• 51:25
  Avery. I should add Jesse Ben Avery
• 51:26
  Junior and and bring on Justin Leroy to talk all about the Van
• 51:31
  Avery memorial races. They remember Adam and Brad.
• 51:34
  Brad, we lost over the winter, and I know I was a big fan of
• 51:38
  Brad. He's a huge reason why I got
• 51:40
  over to Galesburg, and him and I communicated quite often.
• 51:43
  And so his support definitely meant a lot to me.
• 51:46
  So if you're ready, we can bring on Vane, Avery and Leroy.
• 51:49
  I think that should be like a law firm.
• 51:51
  Yeah, so let's go ahead. I'm going to, I have two boxes I
• 51:56
  have to click because we're going to four screens here.
• 51:58
  So again, welcome Justin, and welcome Jesse Junior to the
• 52:02
  Monday Night Rewind as we talk the Van Abram Memorial race
• 52:05
  that's coming up. Obviously sad because you have
• 52:08
  to have a memorial race, but obviously very important as you
• 52:10
  remember 2 cornerstones of short track racing.
• 52:14
  So welcome to the show guys. Thank you for having us.
• 52:19
  Nope, I don't hear Leroy. But thanks for having me for
• 52:21
  sure. Oh, yeah.
• 52:23
  Yep. Can you hear me now, Junior?
• 52:25
  I can hear you. I don't hear.
• 52:26
  I don't hear Justin, though. I hear Jesse.
• 52:28
  OK, well, that. OK, We'll figure out what's
• 52:31
  going on there. But I guess as long as we can
• 52:34
  mostly hear each other, Jesse for you, I'll try to pop in.
• 52:37
  We'll translate from one to the other for you.
• 52:40
  Perfect, perfect. But you and you can hear boojoo.
• 52:43
  So that's that's good. We'll do that.
• 52:44
  Yep. Well, I'm thinking.
• 52:45
  About what's going. On I'm sorry, I'm not.
• 52:48
  I'm not leaving, I promise. Oh no, you're good.
• 52:50
  So again, obviously we have a huge race this Saturday at
• 52:54
  Galesburg Speedway. This has been rescheduled a
• 52:56
  couple times. So Justin, why don't we?
• 52:59
  Yeah, twice. So Justin, why don't we start,
• 53:02
  you know, with the basics and then we'll bring in Jesse to
• 53:05
  talk about like the family side of things and everything.
• 53:08
  So why don't we just for everyone on and for everyone
• 53:10
  listening, we originally were going to have Justin on this
• 53:13
  Thursday. As more details are released,
• 53:16
  there's been some leadership change over at Galesburg and
• 53:19
  other things going on behind the scenes that this is kind of all
• 53:22
  coming together fairly quickly. So we won't have all the answers
• 53:26
  tonight, but I also felt like like if we waited until
• 53:29
  Thursday, we might miss some people who already then make
• 53:33
  plans to go to the Indiana Michigan challenge at M40 or
• 53:36
  whatever it may be. So it felt like let's get on
• 53:38
  Monday where it's the flagship. You know, we're, we're, I mean,
• 53:42
  just to be honest too, we have our largest audience of the week
• 53:45
  most times every every now and then a Thursday episode does
• 53:48
  throw us off a little bit and and metrics.
• 53:50
  But you know, let's get the flagship show where we can get
• 53:53
  all the information out early so that people can start making
• 53:56
  plans for this weekend. So Justin, why don't we start
• 53:59
  with a little bit about the basics information that we have
• 54:02
  now. So that way we can give at least
• 54:07
  that information out. Yeah, well, first of all, I've
• 54:09
  got to thank Jesse, his family, his grandma Peggy, Jesse Senior.
• 54:17
  They reached out to me. We do this a while back, even
• 54:20
  for even before the separation, the fallout.
• 54:24
  So I just wanted to sit that right off the bat when we were
• 54:27
  coming to this race 8 weeks ago, we already had a plan with this
• 54:31
  has been going on. Amanda Lochner, she's a huge
• 54:33
  part of this that's people don't know that she's a Van Avery too.
• 54:37
  So but I just want to get that out.
• 54:39
  But just to confirm one thing from yesterday when I kind of
• 54:42
  went out too early, we did have a tire guy.
• 54:45
  So we will have tires for sale. If you need tires let me know
• 54:49
  cuz he's going to put an order in tomorrow and he's picking
• 54:52
  them up Thursday. So I just want to get that out.
• 54:54
  Hoosier tire 890, what Galesburg's been running all
• 54:57
  year and the other Kamzu speedways from 890, another
• 55:01
  tracks from 800 down South. We thought about doing that if
• 55:03
  we couldn't get tires. So maybe I said we'll sell tires
• 55:07
  for you. So I got to think Union City
• 55:11
  speed shop. John called Pete, I called him
• 55:13
  this morning, 10 O clock. He said he'd do it.
• 55:16
  So I appreciate him a lot. So.
• 55:19
  So it's going to be AN80890 tire, 2038 to win.
• 55:25
  I know already we are at $1000 per second and we have some more
• 55:29
  money we're going to pay out through the field.
• 55:31
  Then I'll be probably finalized hopefully tomorrow for sure
• 55:34
  Wednesday. So it's going to be no soap
• 55:40
  powder your tires. If you're going to bring old
• 55:42
  tires, I'll have powder at the tractor and tires.
• 55:44
  Get them on the track. You want to clean, clean race,
• 55:49
  read. This is what Brad and Adam,
• 55:52
  definitely Brad last year he was just, you know, I've been in
• 55:55
  that guy's shop quite a bit for the last 6-7 years, man.
• 55:58
  And when we lost him, I mean, I, he just, he was heartbroken and
• 56:03
  he lost Adam. That's why he went to go.
• 56:06
  He wanted to go visit Adam. And.
• 56:08
  This is what it is. I just want to have a good race,
• 56:10
  clean race. Some other things I want to talk
• 56:13
  about we're going to do Mr. Jeff Snails reached out to me.
• 56:18
  He wants to do a front wheel drive showdown board.
• 56:22
  Cars can open up the rules. No roofs.
• 56:27
  You can run your boards on the side.
• 56:28
  Just trying to open up the rules a little bit.
• 56:30
  You still have to be on their weekly tire.
• 56:33
  I think it's a 790 or DOTS, no slicks.
• 56:37
  He is adding some money, $100 each ABC features for front
• 56:42
  wheel drive and he's going to scatter money out from finished
• 56:44
  positions to the ABC features. So he could throw some of the A,
• 56:48
  he could throw some of the B, he could throw some of the C.
• 56:50
  And there's a skip for in about 7:30.
• 56:52
  So I told Mike put that out there first.
• 56:55
  Any front wheel drive guys, if you want to come see how fast
• 56:58
  your car really is, throw a big old 6 foot board on it, turn
• 57:02
  left. So but other than that, there's
• 57:05
  a hard charger award. There's going to be there's
• 57:07
  going to be a fast qualifier award here today.
• 57:10
  I currently have 18 cars on my list that reached out to me and
• 57:14
  I reached out to them. So that's a pretty good field of
• 57:16
  cars to start for memorial race. I think so.
• 57:19
  And there's a good, good guys. I got a few guys from Indiana
• 57:21
  coming up. I appreciate their support.
• 57:23
  A few other people Everybody supports, man.
• 57:25
  Just just did this a few weeks ago at Kalamazoo, man.
• 57:28
  I got love, man. It's just like the Van Avery's.
• 57:32
  They meant a lot for me. They raced and I know my buddy
• 57:33
  Zach got me starting the Street Stocks, but that's where I went
• 57:37
  every after Zach kind of got out of it.
• 57:39
  He had a kid, you know, I went over the Van Avery's and they
• 57:42
  built some race cars. And we're going to do this right
• 57:45
  for Brad because I know he's up there.
• 57:47
  He's been, he's been waiting all year for it.
• 57:49
  I know that. Well, again, Brad was such a,
• 57:52
  you know, huge supporter of short track racing in general,
• 57:55
  right? And those involved in it, from
• 57:57
  racers to staff and all that. So I know when everything came
• 58:02
  down that he was in the hospital and going through everything.
• 58:04
  And then obviously when we lost, I was like, oh man, you know
• 58:07
  that that's a that's a gut punch, right?
• 58:09
  Because he was, he was for everybody.
• 58:12
  And so obviously, you know, we and then I know you guys lost
• 58:16
  Adam a few years ago within an, you know, an act, a work related
• 58:19
  acts. And then obviously that was
• 58:21
  tough for the racing community too.
• 58:22
  He had just won the Michigan Cup, you know, the the street
• 58:26
  stock race there, you know, the previous year.
• 58:28
  And so it is kind of one of those things that it just shows
• 58:31
  like how valuable life is, right?
• 58:33
  Sometimes I know on social media everyone can feel all the things
• 58:36
  because that's what social media does.
• 58:38
  And but you know, just again, it shows you though how value
• 58:42
  everyone is. And sometimes maybe it's not
• 58:44
  worth getting as mad or angry or whatever that we can get because
• 58:48
  you just never know. Tomorrow changes a lot.
• 58:50
  So even today things happen quick.
• 58:52
  So, so it's one of those that obviously with Galesburg, this
• 58:57
  has been rained out twice and to do this now, it's at least
• 59:00
  giving you a little bit of a chance to pull a few more things
• 59:03
  together. So I know in the past you guys
• 59:04
  have done, you know, different things.
• 59:06
  So is there anything that you guys are planning other than
• 59:09
  payout is, you know, are there other things that you have with
• 59:11
  this event going on that you're planning to do?
• 59:15
  Well, I mean race wise, I mean we're.
• 59:19
  It was supposed to like a raffle before or something.
• 59:21
  No, I don't think I'm going to do a tire.
• 59:23
  I mean, I might, I don't know. I just.
• 59:25
  I'm kind. Of a big part in this man, it's
• 59:27
  like it's all just coming, you know, so I just you know, I
• 59:30
  appreciate everybody. Let me do it or whatever track
• 59:32
  man from anything from the last I don't know I'm just St. stocks
• 59:37
  a thing, man. It's the premier class in the
• 59:38
  Midwest, so just keep it all. I mean, there's nothing I don't
• 59:42
  know. I mean, we're doing madhouse
• 59:46
  restarts. There won't be no heats for the
• 59:48
  street stocks. There will be heats for the
• 59:49
  front wheel drives. We'll probably do single car
• 59:52
  qualifying for the street Stocks for sure.
• 59:56
  Front wheel drives. We can't just we had told them
• 59:58
  that some guys want to do it. Just depends how many cars we
• 1:00:00
  get. Get 50 cars, we ain't going to
• 1:00:02
  do it. We get 2530 cars, We'll probably
• 1:00:04
  do it. We'll see it just, I mean,
• 1:00:06
  that's what I'm going to tell you.
• 1:00:09
  Like I said, if anyone needs any 890 tires, I got a tire order
• 1:00:12
  going in tomorrow at 2:00 PM if you want a set of tires.
• 1:00:16
  And then if we decided Thursday, maybe we might be able to get
• 1:00:19
  them, but doubt it would be Thursday or probably have to be
• 1:00:21
  Wednesday because he's picking them up Thursday.
• 1:00:23
  He said so. But yeah, I'm glad it's all we
• 1:00:27
  wanted to keep it going. Steals reached out to me and he
• 1:00:29
  said he did he want to make sure this race got in.
• 1:00:31
  And Tammy, even 3 weeks ago when I was there, that's she runs the
• 1:00:36
  place pretty much. So she reached out to me, said
• 1:00:40
  we're getting this in no matter what.
• 1:00:41
  There is a rain date for Sunday. There's another thing.
• 1:00:45
  And I know too, it's all Galesburg rules apply, right?
• 1:00:48
  So you know, although most people, if you're if you're
• 1:00:51
  probably legal at Galesburg, you've probably been legal at
• 1:00:54
  Kalamazoo throughout the year. You've probably been legal at
• 1:00:57
  Owasso throughout the year because Galesburg, you know,
• 1:00:59
  sometimes does get sheet sacks from others.
• 1:01:01
  But then those Galesburg drivers race at other tracks, right?
• 1:01:04
  So, you know, generally speaking, the only big race that
• 1:01:08
  I know that's going on this weekend other than yours would
• 1:01:10
  be the the Indiana Michigan Challenge at M40.
• 1:01:14
  So obviously a lot of people can be might be sitting around
• 1:01:17
  looking for somewhere to go. And obviously Galesburg with
• 1:01:19
  this race. If you want to talk of a few of
• 1:01:21
  the names that have sign on because I know you started your
• 1:01:24
  registration list already for those coming and then we're
• 1:01:27
  going to turn it over to Jesse Junior.
• 1:01:30
  Yeah, I got Jesse Junior. I got Jesse Senior, I got Chuck
• 1:01:33
  Terry. I got Kyle Ribble, Mason
• 1:01:36
  Montgomery, Logan Maynard, Ty Hall, Derek Giggy.
• 1:01:41
  I got I I got my list. That's on my phone and I'm on my
• 1:01:44
  phone. I mean.
• 1:01:46
  Here. I mean, that's pretty cool.
• 1:01:49
  A JS kid. I always like Anthony Foote,
• 1:01:51
  people's foot and people's foot that name.
• 1:01:53
  So stick with him to the day. I don't like people don't call
• 1:01:55
  him that, but I know he's that. I mean, I got my I'm trying to
• 1:01:58
  think I got 18 on my list. I know that.
• 1:02:01
  Yep, I'm going to cheat for you. I'm going to look for you.
• 1:02:04
  Since you're on your phone, I figure I can help you out here.
• 1:02:06
  I just shared it within the last, I don't know, hour, couple
• 1:02:10
  hours somewhere. You just slide down through
• 1:02:13
  there. So you have Brent Denton.
• 1:02:14
  Yep, obviously he's he's getting started together.
• 1:02:17
  He was 5050. I talked to him today and this
• 1:02:19
  is him. So he's 5050.
• 1:02:21
  Yep. So obviously you mentioned Jesse
• 1:02:23
  senior and junior and then you, you already mentioned Chet,
• 1:02:27
  obviously Curti T, Curtis Town, Dustin Klein.
• 1:02:30
  I don't think I've seen Dustin. Yeah.
• 1:02:34
  Dustin Klein. Yeah, Dustin Klein, I just know
• 1:02:37
  Realty. I just know that he does the
• 1:02:39
  Realty stuff. So.
• 1:02:41
  Oh, that's good. That's his sponsor by the way,
• 1:02:43
  too. So I'm like, if he doesn't shout
• 1:02:45
  himself out, then he has not watched the cheap Plug Mondays
• 1:02:48
  when we do the mankind moment. And then obviously you got Josh
• 1:02:53
  on there, Todd Hall, Colin Bozell, who I believe took
• 1:02:57
  second in your point standings over at Galesburg this year,
• 1:03:00
  Trevor Hoekstra, and I call his car the Bumblebee.
• 1:03:03
  Now, you'd already mentioned Derek Bo Brady.
• 1:03:08
  So bow time coming into Galesburg, that's where he raced
• 1:03:12
  all year and he is, if I recall correctly.
• 1:03:14
  You're a champion of the 2026 season.
• 1:03:17
  So obviously, bow time, we'll be able to have some Showtime this
• 1:03:22
  Saturday. And then, yeah, I know that's
• 1:03:25
  actually pretty clever. I should actually clip that.
• 1:03:28
  Kyle Ribble in the 25 who just was battling for the Kalamazoo
• 1:03:33
  points. And then Danny Payne.
• 1:03:35
  I don't remember if you mentioned Danny.
• 1:03:37
  He mentioned me a Sunday. Yesterday you got Logan who
• 1:03:41
  obviously has won at New Paris. He's won at a lot of places so
• 1:03:44
  he'll be there. Former two time South Bend Motor
• 1:03:46
  Speedway check champion and I believe 21 and 22 and then Bill
• 1:03:51
  Lux will be coming out. And then you just mentioned
• 1:03:55
  Mason who won the be feature this past weekend at Kalamazoo.
• 1:03:59
  And then obviously the people's foot, everybody's favorite foot,
• 1:04:03
  Anthony foot. And that's when he said I want
• 1:04:05
  an on board camera. I went, this is a street stock
• 1:04:07
  front wheel drive race. I'm thinking I doubt he's going
• 1:04:10
  to jump in the front wheel drive.
• 1:04:11
  But then I saw your entry list and I went, OK, that obviously
• 1:04:15
  connected everything for me. So.
• 1:04:19
  Yeah, we'll, we'll get a few more and we won't.
• 1:04:21
  I mean, we know we won't start in homework.
• 1:04:24
  We said 22 would be the Max we start in a feature that's a it's
• 1:04:28
  all about the twos and 22 cars that goes with speed.
• 1:04:30
  That's a lot of cars, but. Yeah, especially on 1/4 mile.
• 1:04:33
  I mean, you, well you once you get to 20, you really kind of
• 1:04:36
  start pushing it. You know, I know sometimes we
• 1:04:40
  might get a little ambitious with that, but then it's like
• 1:04:42
  all of a sudden you look and turn when you're like, oh,
• 1:04:44
  that's why we don't do that. So you know, like that's where
• 1:04:47
  the pile up happened, right? And where you're like, OK, we
• 1:04:49
  regret that already, but so why don't we jump really quick over
• 1:04:54
  to junior since he was able to join us tonight.
• 1:04:56
  So Jesse, obviously this has your family's name on it.
• 1:05:00
  You you don't want to be doing a memorial race because that's
• 1:05:03
  not, you know, how you want to live life.
• 1:05:06
  But at the moment that's where we are.
• 1:05:07
  And and obviously they meant a huge deal to everyone in
• 1:05:10
  Galesburg and obviously being family.
• 1:05:12
  So if you want to talk a little bit about what it means to you
• 1:05:16
  to be a part of this race, to be a part of the planning and to
• 1:05:19
  carry on that Vayne Avery legacy that Brad and then Adam paved,
• 1:05:24
  Oh boy. Oh, that's a that's a story that
• 1:05:27
  goes way back. I don't even know where I would
• 1:05:29
  start. But I mean, of course you'd
• 1:05:32
  you'd want to for sure carry your own name with a lot of
• 1:05:36
  pride and everything. So I'm very grateful to be able
• 1:05:39
  to be brought up in this world of racing and brought up the way
• 1:05:42
  that I was with my grandpa 'cause I mean, everybody knows
• 1:05:46
  he was one-of-a-kind of a guy, you know, no matter who you
• 1:05:49
  were, no matter what happened last weekend, last month, last
• 1:05:52
  year, no matter what happened whenever, you know, he was
• 1:05:55
  always the guy that anybody could walk up to and ask for a
• 1:05:57
  part, ask for help, ask for information, any advice,
• 1:06:00
  whatever. And he wouldn't, he wouldn't
• 1:06:02
  turn a cheek ever. He, you know, he's right there
• 1:06:05
  willing to help, do whatever he can for anybody.
• 1:06:07
  So, you know, it's that's, that's hard to find in a lot of
• 1:06:10
  people, especially in a sport that's, you know, can be pretty
• 1:06:13
  hostile at times, you know, when a lot of people can be at each
• 1:06:16
  other's throats and it can very easily, you know, the bar can be
• 1:06:19
  raised, you know, at any given time.
• 1:06:22
  So and then, yeah, with Adam, he's, I don't think there's
• 1:06:27
  maybe a little biased, but I don't think there's anybody on
• 1:06:29
  this planet that near, near in talent as as he was.
• 1:06:33
  You know, he was the only guy that I've ever, I've ever been
• 1:06:38
  able to see with my own eyes that could get in literally any
• 1:06:41
  car in any condition at any given night and instantly make
• 1:06:44
  it as fast as it's ever going to go, you know, And that that's,
• 1:06:48
  that's again, that's another rare talent that, you know, a
• 1:06:50
  lot of people can't just get in and drive anything, you know,
• 1:06:52
  that you put out there. So, yeah, and then if you want
• 1:06:57
  to talk a little bit about, you know, your season while we have
• 1:07:00
  you on because you've jumped in the car quite a bit this year
• 1:07:02
  too. So while we have you on, you
• 1:07:03
  know, I call it cheap Plug Monday, right?
• 1:07:05
  So obviously we're talking about the Van Avery Memorial, but we
• 1:07:08
  could talk a little bit about you and, and obviously you're
• 1:07:11
  not going to get Buju to disagree.
• 1:07:12
  You're not going to get me to disagree.
• 1:07:13
  And we already know what Justin feels that the Street stocks are
• 1:07:18
  what I said. I'm gonna disagree with
• 1:07:19
  everything. No, I'm not.
• 1:07:20
  Going to Oh, yeah. Oh, OK, Bougie.
• 1:07:23
  We have it on record. I'm going to say the Street
• 1:07:25
  stocks are the premier class and we already know that.
• 1:07:27
  Justin just agreed race car, but he's got some Adam in him.
• 1:07:30
  I know that for sure. So what is it like for you
• 1:07:34
  Jesse, to then race? I mean, it doesn't matter what
• 1:07:37
  track you go to. The Street stocks are the top
• 1:07:40
  class right now. And so and that's, you know,
• 1:07:44
  Justin would remember a time when the Street stocks were not
• 1:07:47
  that, right. And so and that wasn't that long
• 1:07:50
  ago either. That was the role last said 10
• 1:07:52
  years ago. So.
• 1:07:53
  So Jesse, for you, what is it like?
• 1:07:55
  And if you want to recap a little bit about your season
• 1:07:57
  while we have you on. So it's not just talk about the
• 1:07:59
  memorial and kind of being sad about that, right.
• 1:08:01
  Let's talk about some of the happy stuff.
• 1:08:03
  And yeah, it shouldn't be sad anyways.
• 1:08:05
  You know, I mean, you know, things happen in life, but you
• 1:08:08
  know, we are, we should all be, you know, I guess honored to be
• 1:08:11
  able to know those two people and to be able to carry on, you
• 1:08:14
  know, what they what they stood for around, you know, what the
• 1:08:16
  little world that we have. So but yeah, I, I haven't raced
• 1:08:21
  as much as I normally do. I'm normally a every Weekender
• 1:08:23
  type of racer and everything. And grandpa really pushed for
• 1:08:26
  that. So that's what we, you know, we
• 1:08:27
  tried to do that all together because, you know, that was
• 1:08:30
  something we could always all do together every weekend.
• 1:08:32
  So, but this year I built a brand new car from top to bottom
• 1:08:36
  that I've been doing for the last couple years and just
• 1:08:41
  haven't had the luck that, you know, anybody would want.
• 1:08:44
  Got tore up almost just about every time we took it out, got
• 1:08:48
  tore up or something broke. So but new car jitters, bugs,
• 1:08:52
  got it all fixed out. And you know, hopefully this
• 1:08:54
  weekend we can swap some luck around and put together at least
• 1:08:57
  a decent finish. If not, maybe take home a
• 1:08:59
  checkered. So yeah, be that.
• 1:09:02
  And then I mean, I don't, I haven't really travelled around
• 1:09:05
  a lot. I've only raced Galesburg and
• 1:09:07
  Springport a couple times and Kalamazoo.
• 1:09:10
  And then I was fortunate enough to be, you know, one of the last
• 1:09:13
  couple guys I got to race, I call a big car AV8 down at
• 1:09:17
  Montville before they shut down. So that was a, that was a pretty
• 1:09:20
  good experience. But other than that, I haven't
• 1:09:23
  had much experience anywhere else.
• 1:09:25
  I haven't really travelled out of state very much to go racing
• 1:09:28
  at all. And yeah, we just kind of stick
• 1:09:31
  local because that's what we're just, we're used to that and
• 1:09:33
  it's easy and convenient for us. But I, I for sure want to get
• 1:09:37
  down and maybe try the flagger boy next year and, and do some
• 1:09:40
  of the some Plymouth racing. And I, I think we got AI have a
• 1:09:43
  really nice car to be able to go down there and compete.
• 1:09:45
  So I mean, I'd like to see what we got for sure.
• 1:09:49
  Well, and and obviously, I mean, Flagler boy is one of those huge
• 1:09:51
  races around that, you know, some of the big names you don't
• 1:09:55
  have won and taken home on. So to see if Ann Avery come
• 1:09:58
  down. I mean, you saw what Jerry did
• 1:09:59
  to those two Amish country down there.
• 1:10:02
  He introduced them to the number 27 and and some people maybe
• 1:10:06
  didn't know who that 27 was, but now they know who that 27 is.
• 1:10:11
  And obviously at Galesburg you get to see that all the time and
• 1:10:14
  obviously Justin get to see that all the time over at Kalamazoo
• 1:10:17
  too. So Anthony dual's been down
• 1:10:19
  there, Josh has been down there. So, uh, definitely, you know,
• 1:10:22
  something to maybe put on your, your book there.
• 1:10:25
  Yeah, for sure. And I mean, it's, uh, it's, you
• 1:10:27
  know, kind of disheartening when, you know, you get tore up
• 1:10:30
  every night when, you know, when you got all this time and money
• 1:10:32
  into these cars. But you know, I mean, I had some
• 1:10:35
  reassurance, you know, I was only I think 21 hundredths or
• 1:10:39
  two one thousandths off of making the the a feature at the
• 1:10:41
  rumble with the first first time, you know, having this car
• 1:10:44
  out all year for, you know, for not even a full season.
• 1:10:47
  So I felt that was pretty good. And I I felt we could, you know,
• 1:10:51
  I ran, I ran from 24th to to 10th, you know, on a on a decent
• 1:10:56
  night at Kalamazoo. So I felt, I feel we got a
• 1:10:58
  pretty decent car to go go travel and, you know, possibly
• 1:11:01
  make a name for myself. I know, I know most people know
• 1:11:04
  of the Van Averys, but you know, I'd like to get myself out there
• 1:11:07
  more because we didn't do a lot of traveling.
• 1:11:09
  But you know, I'd like people to know who we are, what we stand
• 1:11:11
  for, you know, and kind of what we come from so well.
• 1:11:15
  And as you said, you know, when you, you know, it's like in
• 1:11:17
  Northwest Indiana, you got the stremies, right?
• 1:11:20
  Everybody knows the stremies, but you got to pave your own
• 1:11:22
  path. Everyone knows the Lawler's
• 1:11:24
  everyone. You know, you have all these
• 1:11:25
  names that they know. And obviously coming out of the
• 1:11:28
  Galesburg area, you have the Van Averys where people know that
• 1:11:31
  Van Avery name, they know Van Avery Racing.
• 1:11:33
  But again, it's it's it's not how you can take that legacy and
• 1:11:36
  keep it going, but how you can plot your own path within that
• 1:11:39
  legacy. And again, and you have a sharp
• 1:11:42
  looking car too. So, you know, it's it's got its
• 1:11:45
  it's got its Dings and dents. But I thought it looks pretty
• 1:11:48
  good. And I mean, for what it was
• 1:11:50
  built out of, it's it's a pretty sharp looking car for sure.
• 1:11:53
  I think so. Thank you.
• 1:11:54
  I appreciate that. Yeah, as I tell Anthony Jewell,
• 1:11:57
  it's the street stock. It's not supposed to look
• 1:11:59
  pretty. It's not, it is not, it's not
• 1:12:01
  supposed to win the queen, you know, pageant or anything like
• 1:12:04
  that. Save that for the outlaw late
• 1:12:06
  models. They can win the queen pageants.
• 1:12:08
  The street stocks are the rough and rowdy and they don't look
• 1:12:11
  like they sit in the garage most of the year.
• 1:12:12
  So you know that's they look like they go out and they bang
• 1:12:15
  and beat around. And so, but again, the premier
• 1:12:19
  class right at most tracks in the area and I don't I don't
• 1:12:22
  think you get a lot of people to to deny that.
• 1:12:25
  So what are what are you looking at?
• 1:12:27
  Obviously you took some goals for and so even next year with
• 1:12:30
  possibly getting down to flagger boy and all that.
• 1:12:32
  But for this year, are you planning any Super shoe visit,
• 1:12:35
  Michigan Cup visit? Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:37
  We, I try to do super shoe every year just because that was the
• 1:12:40
  thing when I was growing up that my uncle and my dad had always
• 1:12:43
  talked about, you know, the partying and how it was just,
• 1:12:46
  you know, it's a good weekend, you know, through and through,
• 1:12:48
  You know, it's a lot of racing. And I remember there always
• 1:12:51
  being, you know, big boards and lots of cars and everything like
• 1:12:53
  that. So I really enjoy being able to,
• 1:12:55
  to do that now. So I, I, I try to hit super shoe
• 1:12:57
  every year. And of course, I, I love
• 1:12:59
  Springport. I love the way Donnie runs it
• 1:13:01
  out there. I love how nonchalant and laid
• 1:13:03
  back it is. I I love the racing out there.
• 1:13:05
  The track's super fun. So yeah, I'll be I'll be at the
• 1:13:08
  cup. As long as there's a super shoe
• 1:13:09
  and a Michigan Cup, I'll, I'll always be there.
• 1:13:12
  All right, so I know we can look forward to that.
• 1:13:14
  I I know obviously I'll be at super shoe.
• 1:13:16
  My goal is to be at Michigan Cup, So that's where I got to
• 1:13:19
  get permission from Donnie. I hope I get that yes, that I'm
• 1:13:22
  looking for, but I know Justin too, you know, being, you know,
• 1:13:25
  Jesse Junior just mentioned boards and all that and I and I
• 1:13:30
  maybe we forgot to say this or maybe you said it and maybe I
• 1:13:32
  didn't hear it, but I know you posted that front wheel drives
• 1:13:36
  can do board racing this weekend at Galesburg.
• 1:13:39
  Yep, Gary, they can take their roofs off.
• 1:13:42
  They can put, you know, the, you know, boards along the left
• 1:13:45
  side, you know, that kind of thing.
• 1:13:46
  So, you know, open up the rules, you know, just you got to be on
• 1:13:49
  the weekly tire. That's it.
• 1:13:51
  The Hoosier 790. All right, Yep, because it is
• 1:13:55
  ABC there. So you know if it if you're
• 1:13:57
  winning a race with someone like a Matthew LC junior, you know
• 1:14:00
  what kind of times you need to put or if you want to race
• 1:14:02
  towards that safe feature, you kind of know that you're going
• 1:14:05
  to be like a Hornet, you know kind of deal.
• 1:14:07
  So but the boards are always interesting you know to Curtis
• 1:14:11
  Town with his board last year when he came out with that board
• 1:14:14
  for the national compact race. I'm like, Dang, you know, I
• 1:14:17
  don't, I don't remember seeing them that big.
• 1:14:19
  But I also then go to Call of the Wild, one that existed.
• 1:14:22
  And I know there are obviously big boards at Call of the Wild.
• 1:14:24
  So, yeah, yeah. There won't be any of that big.
• 1:14:27
  There might be half that size for sure.
• 1:14:29
  I already seen one SO. Yeah.
• 1:14:33
  So other than that obviously payout, you know, just to remind
• 1:14:36
  everyone since we're kind of at a break here.
• 1:14:38
  Yeah, I know. Like I said, one of his good
• 1:14:41
  buddies, John Williams, his name, he's got a couple sponsors
• 1:14:45
  already lined up. He's already told me what
• 1:14:47
  money's given into the purse. And it's it's half what mine was
• 1:14:51
  for the Showdown. So that's pretty good.
• 1:14:53
  Mine was a big number and it's half that.
• 1:14:56
  So that's still a big number. So I know he's doing a hard
• 1:14:59
  charger award. I think he's doing a $200 fast
• 1:15:02
  qualifier award and $150.00 hard charger award.
• 1:15:06
  So I know that for sure. And the second place is 1000.
• 1:15:09
  And then he's going to put some money through like 5th, 10th and
• 1:15:13
  then up toward it from second or from 3rd, 4th, 5th.
• 1:15:16
  I think third was like 650 or 750 or I was kind of thinking
• 1:15:20
  probably. So we're all talking about that
• 1:15:22
  tomorrow, just to give some sneak peeks.
• 1:15:25
  Yep. So that's why I want everyone
• 1:15:27
  who's watching understand that we may not have all the answers
• 1:15:29
  tonight, but that my gut feeling bougie knows about my gut
• 1:15:32
  feelings. And usually my gut feelings have
• 1:15:34
  been right and you know, that I felt like, man, if we wait until
• 1:15:39
  Thursday, do we possibly miss somebody right where, you know,
• 1:15:43
  the Monday is our flagship show Like so it's like, I appreciate
• 1:15:46
  you, Justin, being flexible. Obviously Jesse getting on here
• 1:15:48
  too, being flexible. It's kind of like a hey, Justin,
• 1:15:51
  I know we talked about Thursday, but here's my thinking, right?
• 1:15:54
  That using Kenny hat as an example, where when we had him
• 1:15:58
  on a few weeks ago, we had 50 people watching and last week we
• 1:16:01
  maxed out like 15 on a Thursday. So it's like, you know, Monday
• 1:16:05
  is our obviously our our flagship where we have the
• 1:16:08
  largest audience. So it's like, OK, let's get
• 1:16:10
  everything out that we can so that as we remember Brad and
• 1:16:16
  Adam this week and that we can at least from my side, I can
• 1:16:18
  help try to make it as big as possible, you know, with, with
• 1:16:22
  the top row ecosystem getting it out there far and wide.
• 1:16:25
  So we'll, I'll be pushing it all weekend, maybe even tomorrow,
• 1:16:29
  'cause I'll be done editing by tomorrow.
• 1:16:31
  If everything goes well, I'll be done editing by tomorrow, the
• 1:16:34
  reveal race and everything that maybe tomorrow night I play the
• 1:16:38
  Vayne Abron Memorial from last year, the that feature race,
• 1:16:41
  which came down right to the wire.
• 1:16:43
  You know, that was pretty exciting there.
• 1:16:45
  So so maybe I do that just as another way to promote it.
• 1:16:49
  So because it's like, let's get as many St. socks as we can.
• 1:16:53
  I mean, I know only so many can start the A, but obviously with
• 1:16:56
  your showdown, you had 25, I believe St. socks show up and
• 1:17:00
  and a lot of St. socks don't have anywhere to go this
• 1:17:02
  weekend, you know, So you know that Spring Court's not open
• 1:17:07
  yet, so don't need to be. Spring Court's not in plan.
• 1:17:09
  Kalamazoo's season champion season championship is done.
• 1:17:12
  No reason to save the car anymore.
• 1:17:15
  I know some people have plans because it's Labor Day weekend.
• 1:17:17
  Yeah, that's the tough. Thing but.
• 1:17:19
  This is. Schedule of from the beginning
• 1:17:21
  of the year. So yeah, so, so again, that's
• 1:17:25
  right. I definitely appreciate you both
• 1:17:26
  being so flexible and getting on tonight, even though, like I
• 1:17:29
  said, I know we don't have all the answers.
• 1:17:30
  So stay tuned to Justin's page. He'll be promoting it out there.
• 1:17:33
  Stay tuned to AJ Foote. I know AJ Foote has been posting
• 1:17:36
  things out there. Snails, I don't know what Snails
• 1:17:39
  is doing. Snails is on here for a little
• 1:17:41
  bit, but I'm sure follow along with Snails honestly, OK,
• 1:17:44
  Honestly. Hey from the night of
• 1:17:46
  destruction. Oh yeah.
• 1:17:48
  Oh yeah. That's a well and how incredible
• 1:17:51
  that crowd. I mean this and they had some
• 1:17:53
  guys lying in, you know. So, you know, let's, let's pack
• 1:17:59
  the place this Saturday, you know, remembering 2 cornerstones
• 1:18:02
  of Galesburg. Obviously, again, you know, with
• 1:18:05
  Brad, I, like I said, I Can't Sing his praises enough.
• 1:18:09
  I didn't know Adam as much, but you know, Brad was always, when
• 1:18:12
  are you coming to Galesburg? When are you coming into
• 1:18:14
  Galesburg? How can we get you to Galesburg?
• 1:18:16
  What do we need to do to get you to Galesburg?
• 1:18:18
  And even during the winter, he'd be checking in.
• 1:18:20
  How's it going or how are you doing?
• 1:18:21
  And that's just kind of guy he was.
• 1:18:23
  And so I definitely appreciate who he was as a person and that
• 1:18:27
  that was really sad. You know, seeing all those
• 1:18:29
  updates, it's like I just literally had a Facebook
• 1:18:30
  conversation with him. So, you know, so I that's where
• 1:18:35
  as soon as I saw this was rescheduled, even though I had
• 1:18:37
  something on my schedule already, just like last year,
• 1:18:39
  making room for the Van Abram memorial, you know, changing my
• 1:18:42
  schedule a little bit because this is important to be at so.
• 1:18:46
  We appreciate it. Oh, no.
• 1:18:48
  So I know I'll be there. Obviously, we'll get to see
• 1:18:50
  Jesse Junior in the car. Justin, I know you have a lot of
• 1:18:53
  work ahead of you. So again, everyone who's
• 1:18:55
  watching, stay tuned. Before we do go though, Jesse,
• 1:18:58
  anything on the closing spot to you guys?
• 1:19:01
  Yeah, I would just like to say like I I really do appreciate
• 1:19:04
  Justin and all he does for like our class for the race and
• 1:19:07
  community and especially like my family aside, I know he grew up
• 1:19:10
  with my family. So like I I really do appreciate
• 1:19:13
  everything he does for us. I appreciate you, you know,
• 1:19:16
  supporting this and, you know, trying to bring some more people
• 1:19:19
  to this. And I know like we didn't have
• 1:19:21
  as many people, you know, around us in the community, you know,
• 1:19:25
  outside of Galesburg as big as Ben Rayburn them did.
• 1:19:27
  But, you know, I'm trying to build off of last year having to
• 1:19:30
  add my grandpa to the memorial race is just, you know, it's a
• 1:19:33
  little bit different of a step, you know, But I mean, we're
• 1:19:36
  we're going to try to make this and every year thing.
• 1:19:38
  Snails told me and promised me that, you know, as long as
• 1:19:40
  there's a Galesburg Speedway, there's going to be a Van Avery
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  Memorial. So it can be something that's on
• 1:19:45
  everybody's schedule every year. And we're going to try to bring
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  in big money. We're going to try to bring in a
• 1:19:49
  lot of cars like I would I would like for this to eventually be
• 1:19:52
  up next to the, you know, home run race next to the rumble.
• 1:19:56
  But you know, with money, with car count, you know, and, and
• 1:19:59
  Galesburg, it gets its bad rap here and there, but I mean, it's
• 1:20:02
  it's a place that you're not going to find some of the racing
• 1:20:04
  that you're going to see. You know, it's it's really it's
• 1:20:07
  it's white knuckle elbows up all the time.
• 1:20:10
  And you know, when when you got good cars on that track, it
• 1:20:13
  produces some of the best racing around, no doubt.
• 1:20:15
  So, but I, I really appreciate the publicity and all of it that
• 1:20:19
  it's getting and I know it's kind of.
• 1:20:21
  Kind of a jumbled mess all coming together so quickly, but
• 1:20:24
  I think, I think this weekend setting up to be, you know, 100%
• 1:20:27
  perfect. I think it got delayed 2 times
• 1:20:30
  on purpose, you know, Mother Nature, just, it's all coming
• 1:20:32
  together perfectly. I think, you know, there's not a
• 1:20:34
  lot of racing going on this weekend other than M40, which,
• 1:20:37
  you know, to each their own promote that support that do
• 1:20:40
  what you got to do. But again, it's, it's, it's nice
• 1:20:44
  seeing how well it's coming together.
• 1:20:45
  I'm super excited and I hope everybody, you know, shows up
• 1:20:48
  has a good time and it's it's good racing.
• 1:20:49
  So well, let's talk about Galesburg for just a moment
• 1:20:53
  then, right, because that's the one thing that, you know, I know
• 1:20:56
  when the first time I went there and I said I was going to
• 1:20:58
  Galesburg, a lot of people felt a lot of different ways.
• 1:21:01
  And, and I have never experienced Galesburg in the
• 1:21:04
  sense where I've been mistreated or disrespected or anything.
• 1:21:08
  And, and I'm like, and I've been there enough now, you know, if
• 1:21:11
  it was going to happen, it was going to, I mean, I've
• 1:21:13
  definitely seen some exciting things, but, you know, beyond
• 1:21:15
  that, I could see exciting things in a lot of places.
• 1:21:18
  But that's where like Jerry, come over to Kalamazoo this year
• 1:21:21
  with the limited late model. I stopped him in the pit area
• 1:21:24
  and I talked with him at the beginning of the season.
• 1:21:25
  I said, I'm so excited to have his limited at Kalamazoo.
• 1:21:29
  I said, cuz there's a lot of people here who probably don't
• 1:21:31
  know what you can do, but I'm excited to, for you to show
• 1:21:34
  because it's like Springport, right?
• 1:21:36
  People kind of discredit Springport.
• 1:21:38
  And while they only get 7 late models, that's not a lot.
• 1:21:41
  Yeah. But Jerry Pearman can win
• 1:21:43
  anywhere. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:44
  And that right. Yeah.
• 1:21:45
  And that, that's good to see. You know, I like that, you know,
• 1:21:48
  like I can't speak for every car over there, but it's, it's good
• 1:21:51
  to see that, you know, them, them the Galesburg cars and the
• 1:21:54
  Galesburg guys can go somewhere else and be, you know, just at
• 1:21:57
  the front of the line like everybody else.
• 1:21:58
  You know, Jerry's got a heck of a caliber of a car and you know,
• 1:22:02
  and Torch, Torch knows just about everything there is to
• 1:22:05
  know about racing. And you know, he's he's got a
• 1:22:08
  lot, he's got a lot going on. You know, he's got a good team
• 1:22:11
  behind him and whatnot. And they've been, they've been
• 1:22:13
  going at it for a couple years and everything so deserves a lot
• 1:22:16
  of times. And and, and so that's where I'm
• 1:22:18
  glad that you brought that up, you know, with the Galesburg and
• 1:22:21
  that, yeah, it does have like a, a, a Rep to it, but it's like,
• 1:22:24
  you know, people just need to go there.
• 1:22:25
  There's actually a fan there who said, I know we're kind of like
• 1:22:27
  the new Paris of the North, but we look rough on the outside,
• 1:22:30
  but we're kind on the inside. And it's, I mean, I get it's
• 1:22:33
  like full house up there. I get hugs from random people
• 1:22:35
  who I'm like, I don't even know who you are and you're hugging
• 1:22:37
  me. And, and they're like, thank you
• 1:22:38
  so much for coming. I'm like, you're fine.
• 1:22:40
  Like thank you, you're yeah, you're welcome.
• 1:22:42
  But and I don't mind it, right. That's why like a Galesburg, I
• 1:22:45
  get to set up with everybody. You know, we're at Kalamazoo,
• 1:22:48
  New Paris and others. I'm on the roof.
• 1:22:49
  I'm by myself in my own world that it's like, you know, just
• 1:22:52
  get out there. If you haven't been to Galesburg
• 1:22:54
  in a while, get out there. The racing is fantastic.
• 1:22:57
  The talent pool that they have at Galesburg, you're not going
• 1:23:00
  to find out a lot of other places.
• 1:23:01
  And again, take that from someone who travels around to a
• 1:23:04
  lot of different tracks and sees a lot of different mix and makes
• 1:23:07
  of drivers and talents and everything.
• 1:23:09
  And that this street stock field already, I mean, Kyle rival
• 1:23:13
  again, second points at Kalamazoo.
• 1:23:15
  Of course, you got the vane Avery's there who probably know
• 1:23:17
  just about every inch of that racetrack and probably even
• 1:23:20
  every pothole. There's a pothole.
• 1:23:22
  You probably know the the diameter and everything of the
• 1:23:24
  size of it. And, and you got Mason
• 1:23:27
  Montgomery. You're going to have a lot of
• 1:23:29
  drivers there who know their way.
• 1:23:30
  So before I forget, though, I felt like I've left Buju out for
• 1:23:33
  like the last hour or so. Buju, any questions for Justin
• 1:23:36
  or Jesse? Because I know you're a street
• 1:23:38
  stock lover too. No, I mean if anything I just
• 1:23:41
  wanted to tag. On to what, Jesse?
• 1:23:43
  Said and thank Justin for what he does for the Street Stock
• 1:23:45
  class because I really do think it is the best racing maybe
• 1:23:48
  anywhere in the country. So yeah, have you been to?
• 1:23:52
  Yeah, for sure. I have not been to Galesburg
• 1:23:55
  you. Better, Justin.
• 1:23:57
  Oh, you better come, you'll experience.
• 1:23:58
  I have a graduation party Saturday, but I'm going to make
• 1:24:01
  every. Effort to make it up there next
• 1:24:03
  year for sure. Awesome.
• 1:24:04
  Next year for sure. Well, what was that would.
• 1:24:07
  You have Jesse while Justin was talking there, Sorry.
• 1:24:09
  Louis. Jesse was trying to say
• 1:24:10
  something. Oh, I mean, I was just going to
• 1:24:12
  say again, like did. The money for this race come all
• 1:24:16
  out of my grandma's pocket and everything, you know, So like,
• 1:24:19
  you know, what Justin's doing is great.
• 1:24:21
  He's got some sponsors and everything and a buddy of ours,
• 1:24:24
  kid John William now Block, he's put in a lot of his own money
• 1:24:29
  out of his own pocket. Like, this isn't a not a big
• 1:24:31
  sponsor, big race or whatever yet, and we're still pulling a
• 1:24:34
  decent amount of cars and a decent amount of money into
• 1:24:36
  this. So I definitely think it's going
• 1:24:38
  to be something that not a lot of want to, not a lot of people
• 1:24:40
  are going to want to miss for sure.
• 1:24:42
  So, well, that's where Buju can maybe help get some of those
• 1:24:45
  Northwest Indiana guys already up too.
• 1:24:47
  I know Justin's been working on them and sending messages, but
• 1:24:50
  it's just, it's a tire, man. We can't.
• 1:24:52
  Yeah, I get it. Trust me.
• 1:24:55
  I tried five years ago with all the. 56 years ago when I mean
• 1:25:01
  this, you can't get them to get on the same tire.
• 1:25:03
  We did it for a while. We already had this, I think it
• 1:25:05
  was 2 years and then it went eight 90s and it's been, I think
• 1:25:09
  this is year 3 on that. So and then tire orders can go.
• 1:25:14
  To you then, Justin. Like you just have me.
• 1:25:17
  Yep. And then I will put them in and
• 1:25:18
  then the other and then. Pick 20, the other 620 a set and
• 1:25:22
  then 6. 40 if you use a. Debit card, credit card or
• 1:25:26
  whatever. So Yep, all right, so again,
• 1:25:30
  the. Van Neighbor Memorial race this
• 1:25:32
  Saturday at Galesburg. Gates open at 422.
• 1:25:37
  Pits open at 2:00. Grandstands open at.
• 1:25:40
  Three cars can't start until 4. High labs start at 405.
• 1:25:44
  Racing 6:45 Yep. So pretty much a normal
• 1:25:48
  schedule. I forgot it's.
• 1:25:49
  Two in my head, I think because cars can't that Township, right,
• 1:25:53
  But cars can't start anything until 4:00 or 4:30.
• 1:25:56
  It's like, I know it's a, we were talking about that with the
• 1:25:59
  Elkhart County commissioner at New Paris who the, the town or
• 1:26:04
  the county was going to try to go after New Paris for something
• 1:26:07
  and that, and he's a commissioner and he stepped up
• 1:26:09
  and said not a chance because he owns some cars and he raced at
• 1:26:12
  Michigan International, all that.
• 1:26:14
  And I said, well, and then we talked about Galesburg.
• 1:26:16
  I said, well, let me tell you about Galesburg and what they go
• 1:26:19
  through with their Township. And he just couldn't believe it.
• 1:26:22
  So, so hopefully that's again, it's people like me who can help
• 1:26:25
  to, you know, put what places like Galesburg do out there.
• 1:26:28
  So that way we can maybe have some counter, you know,
• 1:26:31
  counterpoints to their points, say, hey, you know what, this
• 1:26:34
  track brings a lot of people together.
• 1:26:35
  Here's an example of something that's happening on Saturday
• 1:26:38
  that, you know, especially unique that can unite a
• 1:26:40
  community and bring bring people around, something that short
• 1:26:43
  track racing has done for decades.
• 1:26:45
  So it's like get out of the way. But you're, you know, so let the
• 1:26:48
  track do its thing. You know, it could be a data
• 1:26:52
  center or it could be a pot shop or something else.
• 1:26:54
  And New Buffalo already not Buffalo.
• 1:26:56
  Buffalo New, you know, down here along state line already has all
• 1:26:59
  that covered. We don't need more of that,
• 1:27:01
  right? So, you know, let the track be
• 1:27:02
  the track, but that's a different soapbox for a
• 1:27:06
  different day. Yeah, right.
• 1:27:07
  That's what, that's what we'll get Buju fired up for his
• 1:27:09
  bleachers and features. And.
• 1:27:11
  You know, he can have that on a Sunday where he can do a big
• 1:27:13
  rant on that. But other than that, again,
• 1:27:15
  reach out to Justin for tires to get that ordered so that when
• 1:27:18
  you know, you have tires in time because they're getting picked
• 1:27:20
  up Thursday. So don't be last minute.
• 1:27:22
  I know racers for last minute. Don't be last minute because
• 1:27:25
  then you might not get tires and then nobody wants to bring your
• 1:27:28
  own tires in. But yeah, get a powder.
• 1:27:31
  Yeah, powdered you got. Powdered you can bring the 90s
• 1:27:34
  in. But I mean, if you want to fast,
• 1:27:36
  you want a chance to win, you're going to have to be on new.
• 1:27:38
  It's just how it is. I mean, Yep, yeah, but
• 1:27:42
  definitely powder. That way.
• 1:27:43
  We know whether. They have we'll.
• 1:27:45
  We'll check them at the races, you know, so.
• 1:27:48
  Soak up the race right. Soak up the racing action from
• 1:27:51
  the stands on the. Tires so.
• 1:27:55
  So again, thank you both for coming.
• 1:27:57
  On tonight and it obviously anything that you put out Justin
• 1:28:01
  or, or anything that you can think of, if you need me to help
• 1:28:03
  share something out, you know, let me know.
• 1:28:05
  That way we can get as many people in the stands as possible
• 1:28:08
  and you know, maybe reach out to some cars who may miss your post
• 1:28:11
  for whatever reason. I mean, your posts are literally
• 1:28:13
  everywhere. So if they miss it, I don't know
• 1:28:14
  how, but but you never know. You'd be surprised.
• 1:28:19
  So so just let me know how I can help you all anything I can help
• 1:28:22
  push or promote and and information that I can put out
• 1:28:25
  there. That way we can just canvas it
• 1:28:28
  as much as possible and and reach every possible person who
• 1:28:31
  we can as we get ready for remembering to phenomenal
• 1:28:35
  people. Right, Yes, Sir.
• 1:28:37
  All right. Well, again, thank you.
• 1:28:39
  Jesse Junior and thank you, Justin, for both coming.
• 1:28:41
  On tonight, Yep, thank you. We'll see you for sure.
• 1:28:43
  I appreciate you guys having me absolutely.
• 1:28:46
  So again, see you later. So again, we have been talking
• 1:28:51
  about the Bay Neighbor Memorial that is this Saturday at the
• 1:28:54
  Galesburg Speedway. So make sure that if you have
• 1:28:58
  nothing to do or nothing on your plans to come on out to
• 1:29:00
  Galesburg this Saturday. Not a lot of racing going on in
• 1:29:03
  the area. The big race, obviously, I know
• 1:29:06
  Angola has a big memorial race themselves where they're
• 1:29:09
  honoring people, but I, I can't remember what their classes are.
• 1:29:13
  I don't look at Angola too much and just to be honest, I'm just
• 1:29:16
  being honest. And then and then obviously M40
• 1:29:20
  has their Indiana Michigan Challenge where they have AV8
• 1:29:22
  class and then AV8 front wheel drive class.
• 1:29:24
  It look like it doesn't look like they're doing like specific
• 1:29:27
  classes like they did last year. It looks like it just opened V8
• 1:29:30
  and then open front wheel drive. But don't quote me, I could be
• 1:29:34
  wrong state. Just look for Johnny Russell's
• 1:29:37
  videos 'cause he'll tell me what's going on and and.
• 1:29:41
  Don't miss him. Though, because they he puts out
• 1:29:43
  a lot of them. But yeah, he's the most
• 1:29:45
  efficient content machine in short track racing I think.
• 1:29:47
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I I can't keep up with
• 1:29:50
  him. Sometimes, yeah, he's
• 1:29:51
  incredible. But one thing that I.
• 1:29:53
  Did leave the show open. Usually I.
• 1:29:55
  Get 3 guests on. But what I wanted to do again as
• 1:29:57
  a reminder is for any champions from the area, you know reach
• 1:30:01
  out. I do want to do a champions
• 1:30:03
  edition of top row top row Monday night rewind and and
• 1:30:08
  schedule them out. So mini wedges champ cards South
• 1:30:11
  Bend South Bend into championship.
• 1:30:14
  No champions of South Bend, so Plymouth.
• 1:30:17
  Grande Whittemore, wherever. You are if you want to get on
• 1:30:21
  the Monday Night Rewind, we'll give you a shot.
• 1:30:22
  Again, we've had if you're in Enumclaw, WA and you want to get
• 1:30:26
  on the rewind. Championship edition.
• 1:30:28
  Yeah, well, I try to get. Alec Fett.
• 1:30:30
  Scheduled but cuz they. Have the Boone Nationals coming
• 1:30:33
  up, which is huge in Iowa, the Iowa Boone Nationals, right, but
• 1:30:36
  they're just busy, right and so couldn't get Alec on.
• 1:30:39
  So I'm hoping to get him on soon just so he could talk about IFC
• 1:30:43
  modified out and, you know, racing out in Iowa, you know,
• 1:30:46
  he's a top talent, right? And so so one thing too, I want
• 1:30:50
  to give a shout out to our marketing partner Elh Detailing.
• 1:30:53
  If you go to their Facebook page, they resurrected a Jeep
• 1:30:56
  Wrangler that was infested with mice all over, including dead
• 1:31:00
  baby mice. That was and all the things.
• 1:31:03
  So if you want to see a gut wrenching video, that is more so
• 1:31:07
  gut wrenching, not because it's sad, but gut wrenching because
• 1:31:09
  like, whoa, like how the hell does something get to that
• 1:31:12
  point? And excuse the language,
• 1:31:14
  although I've said worse, but, you know, just go watch that
• 1:31:18
  video and and see the work that Elhd Tailing does and why I'm so
• 1:31:22
  honored to have them apart because I could smell the video
• 1:31:28
  and that's how bad it was. And like a episode of Dirty
• 1:31:31
  Jobs, huh. Yeah.
• 1:31:32
  Oh well, I I. Dirty Jobs might have been
• 1:31:34
  jealous of. This to be quite honest.
• 1:31:36
  And it might have been it's it this video would have been like
• 1:31:41
  the American Idol first episode where they put all the bad
• 1:31:44
  singers on, which would be my episode.
• 1:31:46
  If I ever went on American Idol, I'd be I'd be the first act out,
• 1:31:50
  second at. Least but.
• 1:31:53
  Yeah, go watch that video on ELH shield tailing and also be sure
• 1:31:56
  to follow because we're going to be doing a marketing special
• 1:31:59
  where we're going to give away, you don't even buy anything.
• 1:32:02
  We're going to be giving away free full detail and it's going
• 1:32:06
  to be simple rules. You just got to follow ELH
• 1:32:09
  detailing and we're thinking of something that someone can
• 1:32:11
  comment, you know, just to make sure that they are registered,
• 1:32:16
  you know, super easy. You don't even have to share
• 1:32:18
  anything. You're literally just going to
• 1:32:19
  follow their page. And because they they support
• 1:32:22
  Madcap Racing and obviously support me, myself and I but but
• 1:32:27
  again, they do incredible work. You can't tell it on my car
• 1:32:31
  right now because new Paris had all the dust in the rain and all
• 1:32:34
  that. And so now it looks like it went
• 1:32:36
  through a mud bog. But other than that, what I
• 1:32:39
  thought I we could do two other than those shout outs is I
• 1:32:41
  thought we can open up the show a little bit.
• 1:32:43
  One on my store, if you buy AT shirt, you get 1 or you get 140%
• 1:32:51
  off. I think it was, I forget the
• 1:32:52
  exact number. I should probably remember that.
• 1:32:54
  But while we're talking, I'm going to look.
• 1:32:57
  But you can get a camo T-shirt, a barf T-shirt, whatever it is
• 1:33:04
  another top row T-shirt. So I want to make sure I checked
• 1:33:06
  this discount correctly. Yep.
• 1:33:09
  You didn't see the barf T-shirt. No, I've seen it.
• 1:33:12
  It's just a That's a funny phrase, A.
• 1:33:14
  Barf shirt. Oh yeah, the the barf shirt.
• 1:33:18
  So yeah. 30% off I thought. It was 40, but it's 30% off.
• 1:33:21
  So if you buy one shirt full price, you get a second shirt,
• 1:33:27
  which could be the breast cancer shirt.
• 1:33:29
  Obviously October's coming up, same top row shirt or the barf
• 1:33:36
  shirt for 30% off. And then you can do that twice
• 1:33:40
  in the same order. So you could buy like 2 top row
• 1:33:42
  shirts full price and then you can get, you know, 2 30% off
• 1:33:47
  each. So it's a stacking discount, no
• 1:33:50
  discount code needed. It's automatically applied if
• 1:33:52
  you fill the requirements. So definitely head over where
• 1:33:56
  you could do that. But if you want a barf T-shirt
• 1:33:58
  that says I barf a lot, I'm gonna have you seen it?
• 1:34:03
  I, I believe I have. I can't remember it.
• 1:34:06
  I can't say yeah. I'm up on the show.
• 1:34:08
  That's right. I'm gonna pull it.
• 1:34:09
  I'm gonna pull it. I wanna make.
• 1:34:11
  Sure. I go to the right page here.
• 1:34:16
  Hold on. I got to, I got to open up the
• 1:34:18
  right website spot. It's live TV.
• 1:34:20
  I know well. Yeah, it's fine.
• 1:34:22
  That's fine. All right, here we go because I
• 1:34:25
  closed the link. Because I wasn't going to.
• 1:34:27
  Share it, but I'll bring it on over.
• 1:34:29
  So again, the barf shirt. Don't forget while while we're
• 1:34:32
  here cheap plug Monday because it's mankind Monday.
• 1:34:36
  If you're looking for full programs for for from 2022 on.
• 1:34:41
  Obviously I've been updated since Corgan, but there should
• 1:34:43
  be a few more programs. So I got to do that tonight.
• 1:34:46
  New program was published shortly before the show.
• 1:34:48
  But you can watch Michigan Cup, you can watch whatever all the
• 1:34:51
  way down to Hartford's full season, but on the store here.
• 1:34:55
  So if you go to the store, you can you can get the barf bag,
• 1:35:00
  which is everything barf related.
• 1:35:03
  The calendars are the only thing I sell in person.
• 1:35:05
  I have those calendars. You can get stickers, electronic
• 1:35:08
  goods, HomeGoods, hats, apparel. So if you go to apparel and you
• 1:35:11
  go to adult T-shirts, you can get this camel one which the
• 1:35:16
  pink I'm going to show the pink, the pink one I saw at Corrigan
• 1:35:20
  oil Pam had it at Corrigan that it looks way better even in
• 1:35:24
  person. I it's OK here, but in person I
• 1:35:27
  went I'm going to have to get my own.
• 1:35:28
  So I definitely like that one, but barf.
• 1:35:31
  So this is the barf shirt. I barf a lot.
• 1:35:33
  I barf a lot. I have seen it, but it's good.
• 1:35:36
  So bring a race fan so. This is how it could look on.
• 1:35:39
  You all happy and everything and I mean, he doesn't look like
• 1:35:42
  he's going to barf anytime soon, but but you know, even if you're
• 1:35:46
  not just the discriminate that's in a female, she barfed.
• 1:35:49
  That's what she seated. So yeah.
• 1:35:52
  She's ready. She's ready.
• 1:35:53
  She. She's super shoe ready.
• 1:35:56
  She is ready for super shoe. And so again, if you you
• 1:36:00
  actually that would be the perfect super shoe one.
• 1:36:04
  Yeah, it just means something different there, but.
• 1:36:06
  I I. Had AI had a barf shirt on at
• 1:36:08
  the at the Dome last? Year.
• 1:36:10
  This wasn't the top of me. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:13
  But Oh my goodness. In this gracious, but I don't
• 1:36:18
  know how we recover from that. But hey, if you want a puzzle.
• 1:36:21
  You can get a puzzle. There you go.
• 1:36:23
  You can have something that you can barf with a fan and you can
• 1:36:27
  do a puzzle while you're at it. And it's our cover photo, which
• 1:36:31
  obviously has Chris Garrett and the the whole team there in
• 1:36:33
  Galesburg. And then one of my favorite
• 1:36:35
  photos ever with Aaron Taylor and his both his 20/22/2020 2:22
• 1:36:40
  cars, Eddie Benjamin pointing at you, making sure that you're
• 1:36:44
  barfing a lot. And so, so yeah, so there you go
• 1:36:49
  recover from all that. But yeah, so you can so 30% off
• 1:36:58
  it ships. So you can use Apple Pay, You
• 1:37:00
  can do different various things on the store.
• 1:37:04
  I know Sabrina Bibi ordered something.
• 1:37:05
  She ordered the key chain, which is like a weapon with her.
• 1:37:08
  And but, yeah, but you get one of these T-shirts, you put it in
• 1:37:13
  the in the thing, you put another one in and it
• 1:37:15
  automatically does 30% off, which actually almost makes it
• 1:37:19
  or I think pretty sure makes it free shipping.
• 1:37:21
  So now the only thing I do have to say if you're a Michigan
• 1:37:24
  resident, there is tax because I have Nexus in Michigan.
• 1:37:27
  It's getting dark out because I have Nexus in Michigan.
• 1:37:30
  Indiana, though, if you're an Indiana resident or literally a
• 1:37:32
  resident of 49 other states, no tax for you because I don't have
• 1:37:35
  Nexus there. So.
• 1:37:37
  Well, yeah, I. I there's no.
• 1:37:40
  Way that I would ever make. I don't even make enough money,
• 1:37:42
  let's be real, on this store. I've not even made enough money
• 1:37:45
  in Michigan to have Nexus. But because I had to open the
• 1:37:48
  store and get a sales license and establish it, which is the
• 1:37:53
  legal path that I had to take to do that, I'm like, damn, I
• 1:37:58
  screwed myself. I could have just tried to sell
• 1:37:59
  under the table like everyone else.
• 1:38:01
  But with my luck, that's the price you pay for being a good
• 1:38:04
  boy. Yeah.
• 1:38:05
  Once I read all the rules and everything like.
• 1:38:08
  Yeah, but but I'm legal. If anything I'm legal.
• 1:38:12
  So I'm like, I'll take that. You know, it's better than to
• 1:38:15
  find myself in a spot where all of a sudden IRS is like we see
• 1:38:19
  you sold the OR Michigan more than IRS we see you.
• 1:38:21
  Sold Sold the shirt to. Michigan and you didn't have a
• 1:38:24
  sales license? I got that now.
• 1:38:26
  So at least I'm legal, but but I kind of screwed myself by being
• 1:38:30
  legal. So but yeah, so Michigan, it
• 1:38:32
  does collect tax on the website. That's the sad part.
• 1:38:35
  I wish it didn't do that, but the price I tried to do where it
• 1:38:39
  built in the price and then it was doing something weird on the
• 1:38:41
  store and went that's stupid too.
• 1:38:43
  So I'm like whatever, we'll just do it this way.
• 1:38:46
  So I went to Matt Elsie's page quality graphics and like, how
• 1:38:48
  do they do it? And so I looked at their stuff
• 1:38:50
  and I set it up close to what they do.
• 1:38:52
  So, so again, top row shirts are on there.
• 1:38:55
  Obviously everything is top row on there.
• 1:38:57
  But the barbed shirts, you can get the barbed shirt and, and I
• 1:39:01
  run discounts every week. I just don't advertise them
• 1:39:03
  every week, but every Monday starts one for a full week.
• 1:39:06
  So you just never know. But I usually stay consistent
• 1:39:08
  either 30 to 40% off. I don't I don't go lower than
• 1:39:12
  that. I figure I hate the fact that
• 1:39:15
  $20 shirts exist. There is a time in my life where
• 1:39:18
  I would have like never paid more than $12.00 for a shirt.
• 1:39:21
  Yeah, my clap there we go. I'm like it wasn't working, but
• 1:39:25
  still can't the damn thing to stay on the whole time.
• 1:39:27
  I'm like, whatever, lights on, lights off.
• 1:39:29
  It's you know, I'm already empty headed enough.
• 1:39:31
  But oh, congratulations to Caleb Caleb's on here.
• 1:39:36
  Harrison, he just won at at Kalamazoo last week.
• 1:39:39
  So gotcha. So and that 44 he's had some
• 1:39:43
  rough luck this year. So that was exciting, but I
• 1:39:46
  thought too, other than all that cheap plug stuff that we could
• 1:39:49
  kind of recap, don't mind the lights going to go off in like 2
• 1:39:51
  seconds. But I thought we can give a
• 1:39:53
  chance instead of having a 3rd guest to kind of talk about the
• 1:39:55
  season and reflect on some things.
• 1:39:57
  Because I was kind of doing, you know, how like CNN and others do
• 1:40:00
  like rate sinks, false or negative or whatever maybe.
• 1:40:04
  So the one thing I thought, you know, at the beginning of the
• 1:40:06
  year, I said that the late model class at Kalamazoo, the template
• 1:40:10
  late models were probably going to be the most wide open.
• 1:40:13
  With all the retirements and move UPS that we have, and I
• 1:40:16
  think I was pretty correct on that.
• 1:40:18
  Oh yeah, I would agree. Yeah.
• 1:40:19
  I mean, Mason came out of nowhere.
• 1:40:21
  Huge kudos to him. And oops, damn it, it's not
• 1:40:26
  working. I gotta don't mind me, it'll
• 1:40:28
  bounce house over here like UCF. It's not even gonna turn on now
• 1:40:31
  'cause it knows that I want it on.
• 1:40:33
  But anyways, do this with the lights there.
• 1:40:36
  But but that class and you know, it came down to them and Jared,
• 1:40:39
  but that was pretty wide open. I mean, you had obviously Kenny
• 1:40:43
  had stepping out, Billy Shannon stepping out, breast racing in
• 1:40:45
  general, stepping out. But you know, Jared step, you
• 1:40:48
  know, kept that tradition. But you know, a lot of names
• 1:40:50
  that opened up the chance for others.
• 1:40:53
  So I thought that was pretty exciting.
• 1:40:54
  And then the limited late were that we didn't get as many as we
• 1:40:57
  thought, but they were exciting too.
• 1:40:59
  Jared Pearman, you know, made the big jump, won the Galesburg
• 1:41:02
  championship. But I was kind of thinking, what
• 1:41:04
  stands out to you now that most championships have been decided?
• 1:41:07
  You know, what stood out to you this race season?
• 1:41:09
  Now that we're going into postseason racing, I feel like
• 1:41:14
  and maybe. This is me being the the ever
• 1:41:18
  racing optimist, but I feel like we're gaining positive momentum
• 1:41:22
  back in the right direction for the sport.
• 1:41:24
  I feel like we're kind of out of we never really bounced all the
• 1:41:28
  way back from COVID and we're kind of car counts are dipped
• 1:41:31
  and fan counts still aren't great in a lot of in a lot of
• 1:41:33
  cases. But I feel like we're in a
• 1:41:35
  better spot at this point this year than we were last year as a
• 1:41:39
  sport. Maybe I'm wrong on that.
• 1:41:41
  Maybe I'm just being optimistic and finding the silver lining
• 1:41:43
  and talking myself into it, but I don't know.
• 1:41:46
  I feel like we're in a better spot.
• 1:41:47
  And to me that's, I mean, that's obviously good news for all of
• 1:41:49
  us. The only thing that I wish so
• 1:41:52
  and think about that I think. Like, let's use new pairs, for
• 1:41:55
  example, right? They get crapped on in all the
• 1:41:58
  different ways possible, just like other tracks.
• 1:42:01
  I mean, M40 now gets crapped on so that honeymoon is well over.
• 1:42:05
  Obviously Kalamazoo gets crapped on in different ways, but then
• 1:42:08
  there's also the excitement too and the positive praise net for
• 1:42:10
  each of these facilities. But you know, let's kind of like
• 1:42:13
  start a new pairs, right? Our street stock class got
• 1:42:16
  crapped on for a little bit, even though the talent was
• 1:42:19
  there, but the numbers weren't there right?
• 1:42:21
  People looked at in fact, there's someone who commented on
• 1:42:23
  Charlie Hannah's post the other day.
• 1:42:25
  He screen recorded one of my heat races and and someone on
• 1:42:29
  there in the comments, only six cars.
• 1:42:31
  It's a heat race. The graphic even says heat race.
• 1:42:34
  It's like 1. You just want to bop those
• 1:42:36
  people ahead with a frying pan and see if you can cook them
• 1:42:38
  into another year. But although that would be
• 1:42:42
  assault, which we don't advertise, but but either way, I
• 1:42:45
  think people get the sentiment like some of those people you
• 1:42:47
  just want to do whatever with and not like physically like
• 1:42:51
  permanent damage, but like hit him in the head a little bit.
• 1:42:54
  Like it's 20261942 left a long time ago.
• 1:42:58
  There's not 80 late models anymore.
• 1:43:01
  There's not 80 outlaw late models that are going to show up
• 1:43:03
  on the property. You're going to get 20 to 30.
• 1:43:06
  That's what you're going to get. It's time to move on and live
• 1:43:08
  with it. Like that's what it is.
• 1:43:10
  And where's your car? You didn't even have a car.
• 1:43:13
  But I can't afford a car. If you're talking, I mean.
• 1:43:15
  If you're talking Outlaw Late models, I mean.
• 1:43:17
  You're getting, you're lucky to get 20 or 30 this year if you're
• 1:43:20
  looking a couple years down the road.
• 1:43:21
  Realistically, I don't even know that.
• 1:43:23
  Yeah, I don't know that we're getting any anymore, to be quite
• 1:43:26
  honest. It's going to be tough, right?
• 1:43:28
  And, you know, just the money. Matt Fraser was one of the ones
• 1:43:32
  who said, you know, payouts are going to have to start being
• 1:43:34
  this. And you're like, that's what the
• 1:43:35
  purse is now you know the whole purse and no, but with that,
• 1:43:40
  right, it's, it's one of those things that I sometimes it's the
• 1:43:43
  social media thing that we said this a few weeks ago.
• 1:43:48
  The supporters are the ones who are silent, right?
• 1:43:51
  The supporters support. They don't need the accolades.
• 1:43:53
  They don't need the spotlight. They don't need to tell everyone
• 1:43:55
  that they support. They just show up and they just
• 1:43:58
  do or they let you know in person, hey man, love what you
• 1:44:01
  do or hey, you're such a great racer.
• 1:44:03
  Support you. It's the ones who go to social
• 1:44:05
  media, which seems like the vocal majority and they're not
• 1:44:08
  right. They're the grand, they're the
• 1:44:10
  minority, but they're the ones that are advertised because
• 1:44:13
  they're the ones in the comments section.
• 1:44:15
  And good Lord, you know, you get the you get people rallying
• 1:44:18
  around that person and they start piling on even more.
• 1:44:22
  And so that's where let's look at new pairs, right?
• 1:44:24
  Our street socks got piled on. And then look at the end of the
• 1:44:27
  year 1717, they had 17 against the biggest show in Northwest
• 1:44:31
  Indiana, the highest paying show in Northwest Indiana, and they
• 1:44:35
  had 17 up against that, right? And then they had a huge flagger
• 1:44:39
  boy count. They didn't get the 70 a few
• 1:44:41
  years ago. But I said it's just not going
• 1:44:44
  to happen. That was great.
• 1:44:46
  It's just not the reality anymore in it.
• 1:44:49
  I'm like, if you get in the 40s, that's going to be good you.
• 1:44:52
  And at the end of the day, you just need 2A features.
• 1:44:55
  If you don't need AB feature, B feature would be great, but you
• 1:44:58
  don't, you don't need it, right? It's it's cherry on top, right.
• 1:45:03
  And so look at that. Our championship night at new
• 1:45:05
  pairs, 17th St. socks once again showed up and it's like it kind
• 1:45:09
  of went and then it went up again.
• 1:45:11
  And you know, I think people sharing their positive thing,
• 1:45:14
  you know, Kalamazoo, we finish with the B feature.
• 1:45:16
  Like we started the year with the B feature, but we didn't
• 1:45:19
  have a street sock B feature most of the year, right?
• 1:45:21
  We'd start 24 or so, you know, and so that's some of the things
• 1:45:25
  and I see Tina Lewis on here is, you know, I think we need a lot
• 1:45:29
  of fan specials next year. Wear a color and get in for $10
• 1:45:32
  Corgan oil. I don't want to spoil
• 1:45:34
  everything, but they're talking about, you know, possibly
• 1:45:36
  changing ticket prices and doing some different things with that,
• 1:45:40
  doing different kind of shows and and trying to find ways to
• 1:45:44
  bring people in. But you know, even Tina Lewis
• 1:45:46
  again, sharing bring a ticket from another track the week
• 1:45:48
  before. That's what I love.
• 1:45:50
  What Hartford did with the business Good Enough Pub and
• 1:45:54
  Niles, they had a sponsor who jumped in where, hey, if you
• 1:45:57
  bring this ticket to our establishment, you get this much
• 1:45:59
  off of an appetizer. So then you had people going
• 1:46:02
  that way, but then you had people from Good Enough Pub
• 1:46:05
  going up to Hartford giving it a shot because they wanted that $2
• 1:46:08
  off the appetizer. And and again, I know that's
• 1:46:11
  probably easier said than done. And I'm sure there's someone
• 1:46:14
  listening right now. Well, we did that two years ago
• 1:46:17
  and here's what happened. And it's like, I get it.
• 1:46:19
  Like sometimes it's effort. You know, a lot of these tracks
• 1:46:21
  don't have they're not Berlin and they're not Owasso who has
• 1:46:24
  full time people all the time working.
• 1:46:26
  They're not right. Like Berlin has a solid group of
• 1:46:29
  people who Berlin is their big focus most of the year.
• 1:46:33
  They can do all these things and they have they have the finances
• 1:46:36
  to do that. Owasso obviously with Rex has a
• 1:46:39
  great support system. That's nothing and against them,
• 1:46:41
  but that's not reality at Kalamazoo.
• 1:46:43
  That's not reality at M40, that's not reality at New Paris.
• 1:46:47
  And I also dislike when people compare those tracks to a Berlin
• 1:46:50
  and to an Owosso. They don't have the same
• 1:46:53
  infrastructure and they definitely don't have the same
• 1:46:55
  finances behind them, right? They they just don't, right?
• 1:46:58
  And so it's like comparing to Mansfield, I bet Mansfield has
• 1:47:02
  more resources than Owosso, you know, and Owosso has a lot,
• 1:47:05
  right? And but Mansfield has NASCAR
• 1:47:08
  money and but even that's expensive, right?
• 1:47:10
  They're they, they're going to have only so much to do and they
• 1:47:14
  can't lose money either. And so it's one of those things
• 1:47:17
  that that's the aspect that I feel like you're right that, you
• 1:47:20
  know, it's kind of taking a turn.
• 1:47:22
  You're starting to get some momentum, but it's the I'm not
• 1:47:26
  blaming it all on social media, but it's like, I knew it was
• 1:47:28
  Sunday yesterday because I of everything from Saturday, you
• 1:47:33
  got to read it. And I'm like, I'm, I'm over
• 1:47:35
  this. I've blocked two people on my
• 1:47:38
  page and I haven't felt happier since.
• 1:47:41
  Yeah, I, I skipped, skipped to my loo.
• 1:47:44
  The one challenge to me said, I hope you keep your promise done,
• 1:47:48
  promise kept. And I sang Ding Dong the whole
• 1:47:51
  time too. I was so excited for that.
• 1:47:54
  I shouldn't have advertised that by the way, but I was tired of
• 1:47:57
  them. Tired of them.
• 1:47:58
  They're done and any family member that wants to join them,
• 1:48:01
  all you got to do is comment and I will make it happen so fast.
• 1:48:04
  You won't sneeze and and and get a tissue at the same time.
• 1:48:08
  So I'm I'm waiting as soon as they comment done blocked,
• 1:48:13
  you're next. It's like Goldberg who's next
• 1:48:16
  and everyone in the family is in line.
• 1:48:18
  So just challenge me and it will happen.
• 1:48:21
  But because I'm tired of it. It's a drama.
• 1:48:23
  Get over it. But but anyways, I want to go
• 1:48:26
  back on the positive note. You know, I'm excited for
• 1:48:29
  Springport to come back. You know, I think that's been
• 1:48:32
  the talk of the town, you know, this year.
• 1:48:34
  And how many times do we get to say track comes back?
• 1:48:36
  Look at South Bend. Obviously South Bend and I have
• 1:48:39
  a lot of feelings for each other that, you know, are not maybe
• 1:48:42
  the most exciting. They're, oh, they're exciting.
• 1:48:48
  Maybe for others. Not for each other perhaps, but
• 1:48:51
  but kudos to them right it's a that track could be a Dollar
• 1:48:54
  General right now, the bigger super sized ones and it's coming
• 1:48:58
  back right. You know 'cause I don't want to
• 1:49:00
  see it close. No, I sure don't either.
• 1:49:03
  No, you. Know we we need tracks, right?
• 1:49:06
  We need. Places to go We need places for
• 1:49:08
  people in the community cause what I think people miss out on
• 1:49:11
  when you talk to someone about short track racing I always used
• 1:49:15
  to tell people and it's still true to this day short track
• 1:49:18
  racing was my escape from the everyday I went to the racetrack
• 1:49:23
  to. Get away from.
• 1:49:25
  Getting physically assaulted at my job all the time, getting
• 1:49:29
  stabbed, being put in the ER, whatever it may be.
• 1:49:32
  Like a lot of people, people who know my previous job knows the
• 1:49:36
  challenges that I went through, but people who don't, don't
• 1:49:38
  understand the amount of physical and emotional and
• 1:49:43
  mental things that I went through in that kind of job.
• 1:49:47
  So short track racing was something I look forward to
• 1:49:50
  every Saturday, Friday when Fridays came around for me, but
• 1:49:53
  Saturday because it's like I could go to the racetrack.
• 1:49:56
  I didn't have to think about it. I was at the racetrack.
• 1:50:00
  And even when some of my job related people came to the
• 1:50:05
  racetrack, they knew at the racetrack.
• 1:50:07
  We've talked racetrack. We didn't talk about Monday
• 1:50:09
  through Friday. We talked about the racetrack
• 1:50:12
  and our love for racing. And I think that's where a lot
• 1:50:16
  of people even thinking about, you know, what Galesburg goes
• 1:50:19
  through with the Township and all that.
• 1:50:21
  It's like, do you not realize for a lot of people what short
• 1:50:24
  track racing does? Short track racing can save a
• 1:50:27
  lot of people, you know, and it's.
• 1:50:32
  Family. I mean, think of how many
• 1:50:33
  people? Are probably closer to others at
• 1:50:36
  the racetrack and consider them family more so than even real
• 1:50:41
  family that they actually share blood with me.
• 1:50:44
  I mean, obviously. I am close with my my brothers
• 1:50:49
  and mom and all them are involved in racing, obviously,
• 1:50:52
  but there's definitely people at the racetrack I'm that I've met
• 1:50:55
  through racing that are much more family than some of my
• 1:50:58
  extended family, you know what I mean?
• 1:51:00
  And I mean, that's not against anybody, but I, there's dozens
• 1:51:05
  of dozen or more people in my life that I couldn't imagine not
• 1:51:09
  being around. And that's all through the race
• 1:51:11
  track. So yeah, well, and I think
• 1:51:13
  that's where, you know, like I. Always tell people and you know
• 1:51:16
  this too, when it's video time, I'm neutral as soon as the
• 1:51:20
  first, well, from the time I get to the track to the last
• 1:51:24
  checkered flag neutral, right. You know, internally I might be
• 1:51:28
  rooting someone on, but I I want it to be a great race.
• 1:51:32
  I want the race to be decided on the track.
• 1:51:34
  I don't want the official to have to make the decision that
• 1:51:37
  went to race or whatever. Like I want it decided on the
• 1:51:40
  track, right? That's where it should be
• 1:51:42
  settled, not in the pit area, not on the front stretch or
• 1:51:46
  whatever. Like not in tech.
• 1:51:48
  Let's decide it on the track. But then afterwards, like I
• 1:51:52
  think of Scott and Amanda, right?
• 1:51:54
  I'm so excited when I found out that Amanda's pregnant and, and,
• 1:52:00
  and that I was one of the first to find that out, right.
• 1:52:03
  And Angie Ritter, who you know, I get to connect with all the
• 1:52:06
  time. I think of her, Liz Edwards,
• 1:52:09
  Billy Edwards, Billy Edwards and I have a special thing between
• 1:52:11
  each other that I look forward to every time that I get to see
• 1:52:15
  him. And, and it's something that,
• 1:52:18
  you know, that's our thing. KTS we fist bump before every
• 1:52:22
  race on Friday nights when they're walking the track and
• 1:52:24
  I'm walking the track, we meet at some point and we fist bump
• 1:52:27
  and they say be safe tonight, be safe tonight, be safe tonight to
• 1:52:29
  all of them. And that's like a special thing
• 1:52:32
  that I look forward to that, that I that fills my.
• 1:52:38
  Bucket. You know if you.
• 1:52:39
  Talk about bucket filling. And and that's something that,
• 1:52:43
  you know, there's a lot of people who I'm close to at the
• 1:52:47
  racetrack that I look forward to, you know, Louis Lorkey and
• 1:52:51
  Nancy Lorkey. I always love when I'm around
• 1:52:54
  the Newmans. Anyone from Springport.
• 1:52:55
  I mean, I just feel a different way.
• 1:52:57
  I feel relaxed. And yeah, I'm, you know, that's,
• 1:53:00
  that's a lot of what this weekend.
• 1:53:02
  Was for me and I know we don't talk about South Bend a lot on
• 1:53:04
  the show, but we're in conversation.
• 1:53:06
  It's pair game on Monday, but. And I mean you I've.
• 1:53:11
  I've sung the praise. You know how much I love M40
• 1:53:13
  Speedway. I'm I have nothing but a good
• 1:53:15
  thing to say about M40. You know how much of a good time
• 1:53:17
  I had at at new Paris this year. I love new Paris and the people
• 1:53:20
  that work there. But being back at South Bend,
• 1:53:23
  you talk about bucket filling. It's it's such a feeling of this
• 1:53:26
  is what this is where it's supposed to be.
• 1:53:28
  It's home. It it fills my bucket, I guess,
• 1:53:32
  as you say. And yeah, like I think everybody
• 1:53:36
  has that. I mean, if you look at Bill
• 1:53:38
  Russell's in the chat right now when he was on the show before,
• 1:53:40
  they mentioned they were after Mottville before they got their
• 1:53:43
  hands on M40. And I'm sure it's worked out
• 1:53:45
  great for them. But I'm sure if they could go
• 1:53:46
  back, it's still like Mottville if they could.
• 1:53:48
  Everybody has their home. And as these homes go away and
• 1:53:52
  maybe they don't even go away, but they change hands and things
• 1:53:54
  change there and things change over time, it doesn't feel like
• 1:53:58
  home as much. And.
• 1:53:59
  That's why a lot of. People like Andy said in the
• 1:54:00
  chat, Drew said in the chat a little bit ago.
• 1:54:02
  People are just leaving racing. So in a lot of cases, I think
• 1:54:06
  we're failing to fill people's buckets.
• 1:54:08
  I think we forget that this is supposed to be fun and this is
• 1:54:10
  supposed to be a community and this is it's not supposed to be
• 1:54:14
  another job or another business and it's not supposed to be high
• 1:54:18
  school with the with the drama. A lot of times, as you
• 1:54:20
  mentioned, I I feel like we lose sight of a lot of a lot of
• 1:54:23
  things in this in racing at a lot with this is our perspective
• 1:54:29
  on things. And being back at home for South
• 1:54:31
  Bend at South Bend this weekend put a lot of things in
• 1:54:32
  perspective for me. So I guess that's how that ties
• 1:54:35
  all together there. But yeah, it's a it's an
• 1:54:38
  interesting conversation to have because it's there's no good
• 1:54:41
  answer for any of it, but right. Yeah, it's all.
• 1:54:44
  It's all of our happy place and we're all.
• 1:54:46
  Working to. Try and make it better, right?
• 1:54:49
  Well, I think The thing is that. You and I've had this
• 1:54:53
  conversation. I've had this conversation with
• 1:54:55
  Bill Russell, Penny Russell, who I just I adore Penny.
• 1:54:59
  I mean I I absolutely love Bill by the way, I wanted to feel
• 1:55:02
  like, Oh, I see that is but like Penny Russell, there's one day I
• 1:55:06
  same family. I was so stressed at M40 that
• 1:55:09
  she brought me one of their Oh, what was it?
• 1:55:13
  Slushies or whatever it was that they were doing their mixer, ice
• 1:55:17
  cream mixers, that out of the kindness of her heart, she said,
• 1:55:21
  I'm I'm gonna go make you something because she knew I was
• 1:55:23
  stressed. And it's like, this is not
• 1:55:26
  supposed to be stressful. They're supposed to be stressed
• 1:55:28
  because if you're not stressed, you're dead, by the way, like,
• 1:55:31
  so you need stress. You're like when people are
• 1:55:32
  like, well, I just, I just wish there's no stress.
• 1:55:34
  So you don't want to wish that because if there's no stress,
• 1:55:37
  then you're literally dead. Just so you know, like that's
• 1:55:40
  how that works. So you need some kind of stress
• 1:55:42
  in your life. Yeah.
• 1:55:44
  But there's also too much stress, which could also kill
• 1:55:47
  you. But but it's one of those things
• 1:55:49
  that, you know, I know you saw my Tracy Tots Tots.
• 1:55:55
  And right, like, she didn't have to do that.
• 1:55:59
  They didn't have to do that, but they Chris did like the
• 1:56:03
  principal thing and called me to the track office.
• 1:56:06
  I'm like, what did I do? Did I make anyone mad?
• 1:56:08
  I know I said that I hate hate that I hate heat races and am I
• 1:56:11
  gonna get in trouble because I said I hate heat races and I
• 1:56:14
  wish we did features only. Like I'm just thinking like,
• 1:56:16
  well, that's not the worst thing I could say.
• 1:56:17
  I could say a lot of other things that would be far worse,
• 1:56:20
  but but I didn't, right. So I'm walking there at I was
• 1:56:23
  just getting ready to mount cameras on Matt Frazier's car
• 1:56:26
  and Mark Schrick's car. And then I got Mark, but not
• 1:56:28
  Matt. So I had to come back.
• 1:56:30
  But then my heart's thumping the whole time because I'm like,
• 1:56:32
  what did I do? Did I, you know, because he
• 1:56:34
  sounded serious, right? And so, you know, I'm walking up
• 1:56:37
  and I first I went to the pit office because I was again, I
• 1:56:40
  was so like worked up that I went to the pit office.
• 1:56:43
  I didn't even go to the right spot.
• 1:56:44
  And I'm like, well, they're not in here.
• 1:56:45
  So now I got to wait, make the walk a shame to the track
• 1:56:47
  office. And I'm walking to the track
• 1:56:49
  office thinking like, OK, this is it.
• 1:56:51
  My butt's going to get chewed out.
• 1:56:52
  Something's going to happen. I walk in, Tracy's around the
• 1:56:56
  corner with the big smirk. I'm like, OK, is that the smirk
• 1:56:59
  before she chews someone's ass out?
• 1:57:01
  Or is that the smirk that she's like in a good mood?
• 1:57:04
  Because I don't know, like it's. And Chris had his serious look
• 1:57:08
  on. So I'm like, OK, And he's
• 1:57:10
  telling me to sit down, but Tracy has like that look on her
• 1:57:13
  face where I'm like, OK, I think we're safe.
• 1:57:17
  Well, kind of I. Mean.
• 1:57:18
  She was smiling. But it's again though, sometimes
• 1:57:21
  before people pop off right, they look happy and then before
• 1:57:24
  you know it, 10 seconds later she still could be holding a
• 1:57:27
  knife like. Holy moly.
• 1:57:31
  I've never had my butt chewed out like.
• 1:57:33
  That ever in my. Entire life, I knew it was
• 1:57:35
  coming at some point and I finally got it right.
• 1:57:38
  And then she goes, we know that you're going to miss and she
• 1:57:41
  pulls out the tots. Minnie was so excited.
• 1:57:43
  She's like, was there enough cheese?
• 1:57:45
  Was there enough sour cream and and where the fries good, where
• 1:57:48
  the tots good? And that the fact that they did
• 1:57:50
  that right, that something above and beyond that they didn't have
• 1:57:55
  to do. They didn't have to care.
• 1:57:56
  They didn't have to do that. So I think even sound like Penny
• 1:57:59
  having that like again, taking moments of stress or taking
• 1:58:03
  moments of whatever. Like obviously, no, I shared
• 1:58:05
  before that we had a dog pass away and we have another dog
• 1:58:08
  who's has terminal cancer now. And we have another dog who went
• 1:58:12
  from happy go lucky to basically like paralyzed all within a
• 1:58:15
  month of each other, right? And month and a half.
• 1:58:18
  And it's like one thing after another after another.
• 1:58:20
  It's like, you know, there's just things going on in life and
• 1:58:24
  other stuff that goes on where it's like the racetrack
• 1:58:26
  continues to be that escape. And so I think sometimes that's
• 1:58:29
  what we forget because we're only a few weeks away from
• 1:58:31
  everyone going, man, I miss it, man, I miss it.
• 1:58:34
  But then it's like, OK, but then your Sunday post made it seem
• 1:58:37
  like it was the worst thing in your life.
• 1:58:40
  And and I think that's. Sometimes.
• 1:58:42
  That's why I called. The 48 hour rule where where I
• 1:58:45
  was going with this is that sometimes I like to type stuff
• 1:58:48
  in notes or I'll type it in an empty text message that goes to
• 1:58:52
  no number. It's just empty because I need
• 1:58:54
  to type it somewhere. I'll go to Google Word document
• 1:58:57
  and I'll type whatever I need to type whatever I need to say, get
• 1:59:01
  it out. And then I wait 48 hours from
• 1:59:03
  that. And if after 48 hours I feel the
• 1:59:06
  same way or whatever, it might be the same, then I might go
• 1:59:11
  back, fine tune it, do some editing, make it look
• 1:59:15
  professional and not just basically we're vomiting.
• 1:59:19
  Or in that case I call it finger vomit because I'm typing it
• 1:59:22
  right. And and that does, that doesn't
• 1:59:24
  mean anything else. That's just typing.
• 1:59:26
  And for someone and they're going, that's a funny, but it's
• 1:59:30
  like, that's what I call it. And then I might send something
• 1:59:33
  that's professional, right? And, you know, but 48 hours,
• 1:59:37
  that's what I wait, you know? And so I feel like sometimes,
• 1:59:40
  you know, when you're in the heat of the moment and you go
• 1:59:42
  right to Facebook looking for sympathy, looking for whatever
• 1:59:46
  it's like, OK, but what damage have you done?
• 1:59:48
  Because once it's out there, it's out there, it doesn't
• 1:59:49
  matter whether you delete it. It doesn't matter whether
• 1:59:52
  someone has already screenshot it.
• 1:59:55
  Someone already has a screenshot.
• 1:59:56
  The second was posted. It got screenshot by somebody.
• 1:59:59
  Yeah. Especially if you're talking
• 2:00:00
  about a racetrack or something within the racing.
• 2:00:02
  World Somebody saw it and somebody sent it to somebody
• 2:00:04
  else and then they sent it to somebody.
• 2:00:06
  Yeah. It's already out there, right?
• 2:00:09
  And and so that's that's the thing that it's like, yeah, you
• 2:00:12
  said all that, but now look at what we did or in the comment
• 2:00:15
  section. Yeah, you said all that that and
• 2:00:17
  you can delete your comments and you know someone who's really
• 2:00:19
  good at deleting comments and playing victim, but it's like,
• 2:00:22
  but the screenshots don't lie. It's already exists.
• 2:00:24
  It's already there. And so you can't undo it, right.
• 2:00:28
  You can't say, well, you didn't say that.
• 2:00:30
  You did. You did say it.
• 2:00:33
  I didn't mean it that way. You did.
• 2:00:37
  You meant it that way. You doubled down, you know, you
• 2:00:40
  didn't cut back. You went, you still went for the
• 2:00:42
  jugular. And I think that's the thing
• 2:00:44
  that, you know, when you see this positive stuff, it's like,
• 2:00:48
  you know, just think, how can we help like change your mindset?
• 2:00:52
  Like, yes, you know, there are things like CRA a year ago
• 2:00:55
  August 30th or yesterday, August 30th, I was the most furious
• 2:00:59
  I've ever been at Kalamazoo. Mm hmm.
• 2:01:01
  You know, it wasn't my fault that.
• 2:01:03
  That Racing America. Stood up CRA or however that
• 2:01:06
  went down all's I know CRA was supposed to be there to cover
• 2:01:09
  the CRA race and they weren't and so then I was asked to do
• 2:01:12
  it. I didn't have all the materials
• 2:01:14
  to do it. Thank you Cody Geyer for bailing
• 2:01:16
  out and bringing cord so we can hook into all your system and
• 2:01:19
  thank you to know a long year. I know he's with the
• 2:01:21
  competition, but you know, I will praise that guy to all in
• 2:01:26
  because he's he's phenomenal at what he does.
• 2:01:29
  And you know, I'm a big thing on that.
• 2:01:30
  Like, it doesn't matter whether you like someone or dislike
• 2:01:32
  someone or whatever. I like them.
• 2:01:33
  By the way, just to clarify that too, but it doesn't matter.
• 2:01:35
  You should respect someone for what they do.
• 2:01:38
  Give them the credit where they deserve.
• 2:01:39
  You don't have to send them a Christmas card.
• 2:01:41
  You don't have to invite them to a birthday party, but give them
• 2:01:44
  credit where credit is due. And for Noah, if it weren't for
• 2:01:49
  him and I working for four hours to get that audio to where it
• 2:01:54
  needed to be because I didn't just settle for well, it's just
• 2:01:57
  a little this. No, that's like my brand's on
• 2:02:00
  the line and and you know, like my brand.
• 2:02:04
  'S on the line. I'm not.
• 2:02:05
  Settling like this is my brand, this might be my first
• 2:02:08
  opportunity or impression on somebody and thinking audio
• 2:02:11
  that's crappy. That's the first comment.
• 2:02:13
  Well, who's in charge of the audio?
• 2:02:16
  Yeah, well, obviously not you. But.
• 2:02:19
  Noah, right? He didn't even come to work for
• 2:02:21
  them. He but he was coming as a fan.
• 2:02:24
  His first time in Kalamazoo, he got roped into all of this.
• 2:02:26
  I don't even know if he ever got paid for it.
• 2:02:28
  He should have. I know I didn't, but he should
• 2:02:30
  have been paid. You know, recent American
• 2:02:32
  videographers make $300.00 an event.
• 2:02:34
  I didn't get $300.00 for that. I got $0.00 for it and but I
• 2:02:39
  didn't get all my on boards out there because I was stuck on the
• 2:02:41
  roof. So like top row stuff for
• 2:02:44
  Kalamazoo got severely impacted. I was so mad and stressed that
• 2:02:48
  whole time. But at the end of the day, once
• 2:02:50
  it all worked and it all came together and Noah did the fine
• 2:02:54
  magic thing after I gave him more feedback during the
• 2:02:56
  autograph session, It's like then there, that became my goal.
• 2:03:00
  I want audio because if all this and now I'm my own audio guy,
• 2:03:05
  but it's so if the audio does suck, it's my fault because I
• 2:03:08
  can only blame me now. On Saturday, I could blame Mike
• 2:03:11
  Michael McIntyre because I hooked it to his system.
• 2:03:13
  Thank you to him. He logged me in his system, so
• 2:03:16
  the same audio feed that went to Racing America went to Topper
• 2:03:20
  Racing Media at the same time. So thank you to Mike Michael
• 2:03:23
  McIntyre for allowing me to do that.
• 2:03:25
  He's a super professional. I love watching his old videos
• 2:03:28
  from all over. Oh, yeah.
• 2:03:29
  I, I fall asleep to Michael's YouTube very often.
• 2:03:32
  Yeah. I, I was telling him like, I,
• 2:03:34
  you know, I hope to be. Like his stature someday.
• 2:03:37
  And he said don't, don't work too hard towards it.
• 2:03:40
  But you know, he's an incredible person.
• 2:03:42
  He's a great videographer and and flagman now.
• 2:03:46
  I mean, he does a lot of things, but that's where like right then
• 2:03:49
  and there, even though August 30th was a pain in my royal butt
• 2:03:52
  and I that was the most stress I've ever been at a racetrack
• 2:03:55
  where I was ready to be done. I sat on the roof so defeated
• 2:03:59
  where I'm like, I quit. I'm done.
• 2:04:01
  This is it, you know, this is all the stress going into, OK,
• 2:04:06
  these guys are expecting Racing America quality and I'm some Joe
• 2:04:11
  Schmo, you know, and, but it all worked out and that's then and
• 2:04:16
  there where I said I whatever it is, I'm going to have audio next
• 2:04:19
  year. And I've been and I've invested
• 2:04:21
  a little bit into the infrastructure.
• 2:04:23
  I don't have it all where it can be perfect.
• 2:04:25
  Like some of the video from Saturday or Friday at Kalamazoo
• 2:04:29
  is not where I want it to be audio wise.
• 2:04:31
  I don't know why it's this. It's the same thing I've been
• 2:04:33
  doing all year, but it was a little fuzzy in some spots,
• 2:04:37
  which I'm like, I just don't know.
• 2:04:38
  I don't know why, I don't know, but it was the best we could
• 2:04:42
  get. And I don't have an audio tech
• 2:04:45
  to problem solve that, while I could be the videographer,
• 2:04:48
  right? Like that's usually that's two
• 2:04:50
  people and a lot of broadcast teams, not all, but many of
• 2:04:54
  them. It's two to three people.
• 2:04:57
  And so, but I think that's the thing too, right, Is that even
• 2:05:00
  though that was stressful, I didn't go to Facebook and it's
• 2:05:05
  after 9:00, bitch, moan and complain.
• 2:05:09
  I just did what I needed to do. I celebrated.
• 2:05:11
  The win of overcoming the adversity, right?
• 2:05:16
  And I think sometimes that's what we what how we should try
• 2:05:19
  to spend things is that, yeah, whatever might have happened to
• 2:05:22
  you might have sucked, but how can you turn that?
• 2:05:25
  How can you take a win from that?
• 2:05:28
  Because you might have lost the race or something might have
• 2:05:30
  happened, but there's a win in there somewhere, a lesson in
• 2:05:34
  there somewhere. And I think a lot of times
• 2:05:35
  people, you know, forget those kind of opportunities or forget
• 2:05:39
  those kind of things. And so, you know, the most
• 2:05:41
  stressful day that I've had in the racetrack turn into a
• 2:05:44
  positive for this year where I've been able to do audio at
• 2:05:47
  every track except Galesburg, because that's a whole different
• 2:05:51
  thing. And I'm not even going to get
• 2:05:54
  into that. But I just, I haven't done audio
• 2:05:56
  there. I can't do audio at at mini
• 2:06:00
  wedges, but I choose to be on the ground just because I get
• 2:06:05
  too far away and the ambient might doesn't pick up mini
• 2:06:08
  wedges like it should. The roof is just too far away.
• 2:06:12
  And but otherwise I have audio at all these other tracks I've
• 2:06:15
  been able to hook into different systems, learn different ways to
• 2:06:18
  do it because they're not all the same.
• 2:06:21
  So it's like that negative turned into a positive where now
• 2:06:24
  everyone loves the audio, right? There's a lot of people who
• 2:06:26
  never cared about the audio except Sean's break, you know,
• 2:06:29
  and a couple others. And I joked with Sean, I'm like,
• 2:06:31
  see, Sean, you leave and now I have audio.
• 2:06:33
  But you know, because he always talked about that spring part
• 2:06:36
  like me and audio, I'm like, I'm trying to get there.
• 2:06:38
  I just got to buy more stuff and it costs money to do, But you
• 2:06:42
  know, I so I think that's how you can turn these pauses.
• 2:06:45
  You can remember why we love short track racing.
• 2:06:47
  And that day that I was ready to quit also turned into like, Oh
• 2:06:51
  man, this is fun again, Like I turned it into fun where I was
• 2:06:56
  so like, like I said, I'm so defeated where I was ready to
• 2:06:59
  quit. I was ready to leave the roof
• 2:07:02
  that day, leave all my stuff and go sit somewhere and not even
• 2:07:06
  video, just not even do it. I was so defeated.
• 2:07:09
  Yeah, I hear you. Sometimes it's not as.
• 2:07:13
  Fun as the fun, the stuff that excuse me, it's after 9:00 I'm
• 2:07:17
  turning into a pumpkin here. Sometimes the stuff that isn't
• 2:07:19
  supposed to be fun turns into frustrating, which is a really a
• 2:07:23
  vicious cycle. Yep.
• 2:07:25
  And you know what go fishing. You know if it's at a.
• 2:07:28
  Point where it's you're just miserable every week at the
• 2:07:30
  track it just might be time to step away right How many people
• 2:07:34
  I mean we've been I interviewed a couple people who have taken a
• 2:07:36
  year or two away from the racetrack and then they come
• 2:07:38
  back right they miss it yeah I had Jay Fried on my show this
• 2:07:42
  week and he took he's gone for. Almost six years with life, life
• 2:07:45
  going on and things happening and just needed a break from the
• 2:07:47
  racetrack. And I mean, you see how how, how
• 2:07:50
  back in deep he is now. And yeah, maybe that's the
• 2:07:52
  course some people need. I I can't fathom that in my
• 2:07:55
  brain right now. But who knows, maybe, maybe down
• 2:07:57
  the line. Michael McIntyre.
• 2:07:59
  He started videoing in 2007. He was telling me his story.
• 2:08:02
  He started in 2007, and but he took a hiatus for a little bit.
• 2:08:07
  He said it got to be too much. And, you know, he stepped away.
• 2:08:10
  And I think, you know, sometimes too, you know, even being on the
• 2:08:12
  media side, they're things that I have to show a report that
• 2:08:15
  maybe are not the most exciting thing, you know, And I get it,
• 2:08:19
  Like Nick Presser. Such a.
• 2:08:21
  Champ, you know, I had a report as DQ and I went to him on
• 2:08:24
  Saturday and I, you know, apologize to him.
• 2:08:27
  And I said I didn't say specifics.
• 2:08:30
  It was not my place to do that from Kalamazoo.
• 2:08:33
  Others did. I didn't know Andy Bozell won
• 2:08:36
  until I was on the ground finally and he's in Victory
• 2:08:38
  Lane. I'm like, what's going on here?
• 2:08:39
  I thought, did he announce something and I missed it and
• 2:08:42
  they said no, he won the race. I went, oh, I'm the last to find
• 2:08:45
  out everything and right, I literally had no clue.
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  And so anyways, because I I can't check my race pass while
• 2:08:53
  we're going right? I, I'm videoing, I'm busy doing
• 2:08:57
  something. And so anyways, you know, I went
• 2:09:00
  to Nick's trailer and he, he's like, I slept fine just last
• 2:09:03
  night, you know, slept just fine last night.
• 2:09:05
  And then I went to him later 'cause he had made a funny post
• 2:09:08
  and I went to him and I said I've been thinking about
• 2:09:10
  something like this. And it was like perfect timing
• 2:09:12
  where it said you only get so many chances to soak up the
• 2:09:15
  racing action. And, and I asked him first.
• 2:09:18
  I said I, you know, I'm not wearing a black T-shirt, so you
• 2:09:21
  can't tell me to stay right there so you can come kick my
• 2:09:24
  butt. And I was wearing a grey T-shirt
• 2:09:26
  and I stopped coming to see you. Yeah, I said.
• 2:09:29
  Would I? If you know, you know.
• 2:09:32
  And I didn't have my I could have hit out of my car.
• 2:09:34
  My car was in the pit area. I could have locked myself in
• 2:09:36
  the car, but I didn't. I went up to him just like to do
• 2:09:39
  every week when I see the press source and I go up to them, I
• 2:09:41
  say you suck. And then I have a 10 minute
• 2:09:43
  conversation with them, 'cause that's the bingo board, that's
• 2:09:46
  our bingo spot. You know, I go up to them and I
• 2:09:48
  say you suck. And now no one else can say it
• 2:09:50
  'cause I already said it first. But I said you get the free pass
• 2:09:54
  if everybody else does this actually in the stands.
• 2:09:57
  Yeah, yeah, I. Already did it.
• 2:09:59
  You're not original. Anymore, I already did it.
• 2:10:01
  And so anyways, I went up to him.
• 2:10:03
  I said would you be offended if I did this?
• 2:10:05
  It's like perfect. And he said no, go for it.
• 2:10:08
  So here's a sport, Yeah, as as much crap as they catch.
• 2:10:12
  And I. Mean, hey, maybe some of it's
• 2:10:14
  deserved sometimes, but they are they can roll with the punch and
• 2:10:17
  I mean Oh yeah, yeah, that's a hat off, hat off to them for
• 2:10:19
  that and. I told them it.
• 2:10:21
  Was in 2003 when I first had my. Cameras because he had one for
• 2:10:25
  practice at Kalamazoo and then they did one at Plymouth and I
• 2:10:29
  went to their trailer and I was talking with them and and trucks
• 2:10:33
  were in there and others. And I said, and I'm not shy
• 2:10:35
  about this. I remember I was this stupid
• 2:10:37
  race fan that I tell people all the time.
• 2:10:40
  Drew Jack would know. I tell There's so many
• 2:10:41
  conversations where I'm speaking as a stupid race fan than I used
• 2:10:45
  to be, and I'm still learning now.
• 2:10:47
  I'm not perfect, but you know, I told Nick, I said, and as a fan
• 2:10:52
  in the sands of the South Bend, I could care less for you.
• 2:10:55
  I hated every moment you're on the track.
• 2:10:57
  And I you know, I never wished that you would get hurt.
• 2:11:00
  But if your car hit the wall, I wasn't sad, right?
• 2:11:03
  Or something happened and I and I was telling them I said, but
• 2:11:06
  this is what I wish fans would have opportunities to do to step
• 2:11:11
  on the other side in the pig area, get to know drivers and
• 2:11:14
  not just judge a driver for what you've known or what you've
• 2:11:16
  heard or what other fans tell you.
• 2:11:18
  Getting to know pressler's and I get it.
• 2:11:20
  You know, they have people who like them and they have people
• 2:11:22
  who don't like them and there's not really an in between and but
• 2:11:27
  they're they are awesome people. Gage Harris, you know, I've had
• 2:11:30
  chances to talk with him and I and I mean look at those else
• 2:11:35
  they have people who like him and who don't like them.
• 2:11:36
  I'm like, look at his resume, you know, like, you know, like
• 2:11:40
  all these things, right? And I get it.
• 2:11:42
  There are people who like top row.
• 2:11:43
  There are people who don't like top row in it.
• 2:11:44
  While it bothers me that they don't like it, I'm like, but at
• 2:11:47
  the end of the day, I am getting to that point where I'm like,
• 2:11:50
  whatever, you know, like, it's fine.
• 2:11:52
  Don't like me. You know, I, I'm losing money
• 2:11:55
  doing this. I don't, I don't have to do
• 2:11:57
  this. I don't have to focus on this
• 2:11:58
  full time like I've chosen to do.
• 2:12:01
  And but it's like with the pressors, I know they get a bad
• 2:12:04
  Rep from a lot of people, but it's like, but if you talk with
• 2:12:06
  them, if you talk with Nick, if you talk with Corey, if you talk
• 2:12:09
  with Gage Harris and you get to know the crew and the team
• 2:12:14
  behind them, it's like they're they're not bad people.
• 2:12:17
  You know, you may not like him on the track, but they also know
• 2:12:20
  if they want to race at the next race, they got to be in
• 2:12:23
  contention of winning. And they're not there to
• 2:12:26
  purposely wreck people. Despite what someone might think
• 2:12:28
  or say, they're not. Because look at Nick.
• 2:12:30
  He got his crap torn up a few weeks ago.
• 2:12:34
  Not even his own fault he got. Locked into someone else.
• 2:12:37
  'S mess, I think it was Flagler boy, right?
• 2:12:39
  And it is ninth, someone else's mess and.
• 2:12:43
  People blamed him. It's like it wasn't.
• 2:12:45
  Even him, you know, he didn't do it.
• 2:12:47
  It was a ricochet from in front of him.
• 2:12:49
  And but it's like, you know, there are drivers now that I
• 2:12:52
  have gotten to know on this side that as a fan, I definitely had
• 2:12:55
  a different opinion on where I'm like, you know, now I look
• 2:12:58
  forward to talking to them all the time.
• 2:13:00
  And so I just wish, and I don't know how I don't know if there's
• 2:13:03
  a way to facilitate those kind of things.
• 2:13:05
  Maybe maybe it's not so much an autograph night, but sort of
• 2:13:08
  like what New Paris is doing where you have during an
• 2:13:11
  intermission where you have drivers from a specific class
• 2:13:13
  come up where fans can engage with them, can talk with them,
• 2:13:16
  can see them behind, you know, who's behind the helmet and not
• 2:13:20
  just see them on the track, like have a conversation with them.
• 2:13:24
  I think having, you know, some drivers on the Monday Night
• 2:13:27
  Rewind, there's some people who have thought things that I've
• 2:13:30
  had people tell me in person. They're a cool person, aren't
• 2:13:33
  they? Are?
• 2:13:33
  Oh, they're not as bad as I thought I've been.
• 2:13:36
  I've been surprised by guests we've had on here.
• 2:13:38
  Yep. And I and I think that's OK,
• 2:13:40
  right? So.
• 2:13:41
  So it's one of those things that, you know, again, that's
• 2:13:46
  social media can help in so many ways.
• 2:13:48
  But I just wish there was ways that we.
• 2:13:50
  Can just take time to to think so that we can get to know
• 2:13:55
  people, get to, you know, not on the screen, but be, you know, in
• 2:13:58
  person. You know, because there's a lot
• 2:14:01
  of people who sacrifice family time, money, resources, whether
• 2:14:09
  that's sponsors, crew members, drivers, race car owners,
• 2:14:12
  whatever. To put on a show every Friday,
• 2:14:15
  Saturday, Sunday, you know, get the people who run these tracks.
• 2:14:19
  You know, race directors aren't perfect.
• 2:14:21
  Owners aren't perfect. The concession stand workers
• 2:14:24
  aren't perfect. The foods not always going to be
• 2:14:25
  perfect, but you have people who are trying their best every
• 2:14:29
  single time. You never know beyond the track
• 2:14:32
  what's going on in their life that, you know, I think that
• 2:14:36
  those are just some of the things that we need to remember
• 2:14:37
  so that we can continue this positive momentum, right?
• 2:14:40
  That we can continue, you know, to try to recover a sport that
• 2:14:44
  we love because we're, we're not so far away from.
• 2:14:49
  Going the opposite and. We're track shut down.
• 2:14:52
  You have a couple for sale. We already know, you know, we
• 2:14:57
  already know industry looks at some of these sites, you know,
• 2:15:01
  to build factories or build whatever.
• 2:15:04
  Look at Grundy County. We learned a few weeks ago, I
• 2:15:06
  didn't know this, that Grundy County is the last asphalt track
• 2:15:10
  other than the Chicago land. But short track, the last
• 2:15:13
  asphalt short track in Illinois just.
• 2:15:19
  That think about that when he said that I'm like.
• 2:15:22
  I did not know that and it's sad.
• 2:15:25
  It is heartbreaking. But but think of the island.
• 2:15:28
  Then that puts them. On where it.
• 2:15:29
  May be harder to get cars, it may be harder to get things
• 2:15:32
  because you know, people don't want to build for one track.
• 2:15:36
  You've got people who. Want to travel so and I Irish
• 2:15:39
  said something on my show Iris Saunders and.
• 2:15:41
  He was to get some bleachers and features available on Sunday
• 2:15:43
  Buju bull ring cheap plug Monday.
• 2:15:45
  I'm going to charge you for that going forward, but go ahead.
• 2:15:49
  No, Kate, Iris Saunders on my show, he's he made a point
• 2:15:52
  about. Shelves and inventory where
• 2:15:55
  maybe there's not enough inventory to fill all the
• 2:15:57
  shelves. And if you start taking some
• 2:15:59
  shelves away, the the OR take some whatever you start the
• 2:16:02
  shelves get a little more full, right?
• 2:16:03
  If you take some shelves away, the other shelves get more full.
• 2:16:06
  But I'm I would argue that a lot of times you take this inventory
• 2:16:09
  off that shelf, it's just not going to go to another shelf.
• 2:16:12
  It's going to sit there and expire.
• 2:16:15
  I think we need all the shelves we can get and all the stores we
• 2:16:17
  can get. So I don't yeah, I don't agree
• 2:16:20
  with my guest Irish up point on that first show.
• 2:16:22
  It's I feel like we need the word out there.
• 2:16:25
  We need as many tracks as we can get and we need as many people
• 2:16:27
  at those tracks no matter what, no matter what the means is,
• 2:16:30
  whether I mean it's blasting out on social media or we, like we
• 2:16:33
  talked about earlier, getting into the community and making
• 2:16:35
  those deals, like you said, at a good enough pub or Tina, it's
• 2:16:40
  too late. I will get actually bad.
• 2:16:43
  I'm about to fall asleep on the air.
• 2:16:45
  Don't do it to me now. Do not do it to me now it was it
• 2:16:49
  was felt like a dirt track this. Weekend, it was a.
• 2:16:51
  Dust Bowl out there for that construction, I tell you, come
• 2:16:54
  back on Thursday because you know, on Thursday, obviously.
• 2:16:57
  Now that we don't have Justin on, you know, that kind of, I
• 2:17:00
  figure we can have like an open format on Thursday cuz people
• 2:17:02
  really like that a few weeks ago when it's like, well, audio
• 2:17:05
  sucks out all this sucks, nothing's working right.
• 2:17:07
  And let's just have a literal show of just talking.
• 2:17:10
  And maybe, I don't know, maybe we can work on like a round
• 2:17:13
  table for Thursday. Maybe we bring a couple people
• 2:17:16
  on and do like word choice and just kind of have like AI don't
• 2:17:20
  know, kind of like a fun send off for the weekly version of
• 2:17:23
  it. But I don't know, I'll think
• 2:17:26
  about that. Maybe you could think about that
• 2:17:27
  too. And maybe we could talk about
• 2:17:29
  how awesome of a dirt track South Bend would make.
• 2:17:34
  How about? No, I actually don't think that,
• 2:17:36
  just so you know. I know I bust your balls on that
• 2:17:39
  and it's after 9:00 so I can say that but but I still think M40
• 2:17:44
  would make an awesome dirt track.
• 2:17:45
  I will go to my grave thinking that you can talk to Johnny and
• 2:17:49
  Bill about that one. Well, I love it.
• 2:17:51
  As an asphalt track, don't get me wrong.
• 2:17:53
  But I just pictured dirt light models and Sprint cars on there.
• 2:17:57
  I don't know about front wheel drives on there as a dirt track
• 2:17:59
  and I don't. The unfortunate thing is if you
• 2:18:01
  made it a dirt track, I don't know that you would run it
• 2:18:03
  weekly. And I think that's that would be
• 2:18:06
  the bad part is, Oh, excuse me, I apologize for that.
• 2:18:10
  I don't think you. Would be able to run it weekly
• 2:18:12
  Hartford, right? They're down to two classes.
• 2:18:16
  I think another dirt track somewhere close would help them
• 2:18:19
  because yeah, you have Butler. But you know, I, I think people
• 2:18:23
  don't want to build just for one or two tracks.
• 2:18:25
  They want to kind of travel around.
• 2:18:28
  So I definitely think if there's another dirt track in the area
• 2:18:30
  that would help someone, I don't know who.
• 2:18:33
  And I'm not forgetting Shady Hill, but I feel like Shady
• 2:18:36
  Hill's just so out there that a lot of those cars aren't going
• 2:18:39
  to go to Hartford or Butler. They're going to go Shady Hill
• 2:18:42
  and pretty much race at Shady Hill.
• 2:18:43
  I feel that same way about Butler.
• 2:18:45
  I forget Butler exists and that's not.
• 2:18:47
  Anything against it? It's just like it's just for
• 2:18:48
  some reason tucked up and over there and City Hill's the same
• 2:18:51
  way it's tucked down here and I just, well, you and you don't.
• 2:18:56
  How do I say? This without sounding bad I I'll
• 2:19:02
  say it this way. It's not still going to sound
• 2:19:03
  right, but you just. You don't hear a lot about it,
• 2:19:06
  right? I don't see for some for for
• 2:19:08
  some reason the circles don't intersect from our.
• 2:19:10
  Area to those two tracks for some weird reason, like I know
• 2:19:14
  Brian Goodacre's been doing some work over at Shady Hill and I
• 2:19:17
  know seems like he's doing some promotion stuff.
• 2:19:20
  So that's my only connection to Shady Hill and Anthony Kaiser
• 2:19:24
  used to race to this area. He started racing at Butler this
• 2:19:26
  year. That's the only Butler
• 2:19:27
  connection I have. So Yep, I just feel like I don't
• 2:19:30
  see a lot coming out of it. I see their social media like I
• 2:19:33
  follow and they do a great job with their social media.
• 2:19:37
  I know they made improvements there.
• 2:19:38
  Bob Garrett, who used to be at Galesburg, was a long time owner
• 2:19:42
  at Butler. And right so it it, Donnie
• 2:19:45
  Ritter won a race there and a race at another track in the
• 2:19:47
  same night. And like so obviously it has
• 2:19:49
  history. It has all that.
• 2:19:50
  But I feel like coming out of Saturday, I never hear or see
• 2:19:54
  anything about Butler and I don't know if that's good or
• 2:19:57
  bad. I definitely heard a lot about
• 2:19:59
  all other places on Sunday mornings.
• 2:20:01
  And you know, again, that's the part that I don't look forward
• 2:20:04
  to. But and Tina's right, like they
• 2:20:06
  get a great car count. Like I see a lot of crystal.
• 2:20:09
  I see crystal stuff come through all the time.
• 2:20:12
  I see stuff from Mount Pleasant. I see stuff from I-90 6 and, and
• 2:20:17
  the incredible work that that team does and I-90 6.
• 2:20:20
  I just don't for one reason or another.
• 2:20:23
  I just never see a lot of Butler stuff and.
• 2:20:26
  So I don't know, I I still want to get there one of these times,
• 2:20:28
  even if it's just as a fan, like just to sit there and experience
• 2:20:31
  a dirt track race there. But I I tried earlier this year
• 2:20:35
  that got rained out while I was in.
• 2:20:36
  Yeah, that's right. That.
• 2:20:37
  You're going to go, but why don't we?
• 2:20:39
  Pause this conversation because I know it's getting near your
• 2:20:41
  bedtime and this could be, you know, we can bring it back time
• 2:20:43
  on air. And I do want to remind.
• 2:20:46
  Everyone just one. More time for the upcoming
• 2:20:49
  schedule over the next few weeks.
• 2:20:50
  Again, this Thursday is the final weekly episode.
• 2:20:54
  I know we've missed a couple because of conflicts and
• 2:20:57
  schedule whatever, but we've had pretty consistent scheduling
• 2:21:00
  there. But this is the final weekly
• 2:21:02
  episode. Next Monday, September 7th,
• 2:21:05
  there's no Monday Night rewind. We are going to come on
• 2:21:08
  Wednesday, September 9th so that everyone can enjoy their long
• 2:21:12
  Labor Day weekend and just recover from the weekend if
• 2:21:15
  anything. So we will have the Monday Night
• 2:21:17
  Rewind live on Wednesday, September 9th and yes, it will
• 2:21:21
  be called the Monday Night Rewind on a Wednesday.
• 2:21:24
  We will get over it. Then on Thursday, September
• 2:21:27
  17th, we'll start our every other week Thursday Night
• 2:21:31
  Throttle and then we will come back on October 1st, Thursday
• 2:21:35
  night throttle. Both of these align close to
• 2:21:37
  Super Shoot weekend and Michigan Cup weekend.
• 2:21:40
  And then October 15th is right before Bahama brackets at Grundy
• 2:21:44
  County Speedway and Morris, IL And then October 29th, I'm sure
• 2:21:48
  lines with something somewhere I that was just every other
• 2:21:52
  Thursday, but that will be our final every other episode as we
• 2:21:56
  transition. So the month of October and
• 2:21:58
  September are really our transition month to every other
• 2:22:01
  Thursdays. And then starting in November on
• 2:22:03
  the 12th of November will be the one episode of the Thursday
• 2:22:08
  night throttle each month. That doesn't mean I won't play
• 2:22:11
  old episodes of a Monday night rewind on a Thursday or
• 2:22:15
  whatever, but we won't be live. I, I want to do something that
• 2:22:19
  doesn't require me to sit at the computer necessarily on a
• 2:22:22
  Thursday every week. And so, so I just wanted to
• 2:22:26
  remind everyone of that. But other than that, I know
• 2:22:29
  this, we started to wrap up and we still want another 20
• 2:22:31
  minutes, but I feel like it's good conversation that we can
• 2:22:34
  with let's put as my favorite quote, let's put a pin in it and
• 2:22:37
  we can bring it back on Thursday.
• 2:22:38
  Like I said, open format on Thursday because there's not a
• 2:22:41
  lot of shows this weekend. We advertised the big ones
• 2:22:44
  tonight. So kind of like open format, you
• 2:22:47
  know, like I said, maybe we bring a couple people on as
• 2:22:49
  guests to just kind of, I don't know, whatever.
• 2:22:53
  We can figure out what the format looks like for Thursday.
• 2:22:56
  But other than that, this has been the 29th episode of the
• 2:22:59
  Monday Night Rewind. Don't forget the 30th episode
• 2:23:03
  next Wednesday, September 9th right here on top of Racing
• 2:23:07
  Media, Facebook and on the YouTube channel.
• 2:23:11
  And now this is where I have to pause because I hear Dolphin
• 2:23:13
  Irish do it so perfectly and I don't want to mess him up.
• 2:23:16
  The Dalton Irish segmented that was still.
• 2:23:19
  He had it perfect even with my all.
• 2:23:21
  Right. So this is where I have to pause
• 2:23:23
  so I don't do it wrong. All right, Boozoo, it's.
• 2:23:27
  Almost time to turn left. And go fast because we'll see
• 2:23:31
  you at the races. See you all.