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The Next Round: Alabama vs. Tennessee Preview, 24-Team Playoff Controversy & College Football Picks · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: We get going now. Live show today from Gatlinburg, Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: and right here in Birmingham, Alabama is the next round.
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  Speaker 1: Right here on Sport and State presented by our friends
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  Speaker 1: at Hard Rock Bet. I'll tell you about Hard Rock Bet.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into what we saw last night. All that
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  Speaker 1: offense that we saw in the Brewers-Dodgers game. More offense
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  Speaker 1: than you saw in the Broncos and Seahawks. And an
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  Speaker 1: exciting win for UAB down the stretch here locally. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a massive weekend in college football coming up with
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  Speaker 1: six ranked games. Rank on rank, six of them this week.
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  Speaker 1: That includes Alabama at Tennessee. Just down the road from
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  Speaker 1: where the boys are at the Tennessee Shine Company. Rise
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  Speaker 1: and shine, guys, at the Shine Company. How are you today?
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  Speaker 2: Really, really good.
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  Speaker 3: Our first shine of the day. We've got the cheers.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a bloody merry moonshine, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: I have been.
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  Speaker 3: Told that there are over 50 different variations of moonshine.
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  Speaker 3: And in the final hour, I am going to try
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  Speaker 3: to do all 50.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see it, actually.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, green each of them. I'll give that a B.
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  Speaker 1: And truthfully, Forrester would tell you that may help your
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  Speaker 1: pick three picks.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. What a shot out of the five.
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  Speaker 3: Had a winning pick three. I didn't get a ball
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  Speaker 3: in the bucket, but I did go two and one.
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  Speaker 3: So coming out with a three and oh today. Feel really,
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  Speaker 3: really good about the pick.
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  Speaker 1: I would say that only as the guy who went
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  Speaker 1: oh and three last week. And I promised Forster that
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  Speaker 1: I spent most of my morning coming up with three winners, too.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll give you my three winners coming up later
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  Speaker 1: on when we do the pick three. But it is
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  Speaker 1: up and rolling for you. And Brooks will drop a
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  Speaker 1: link in the chat room today right there at nextroundlive.com. NextRoundLive.com. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's start first by you guys just telling me what
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  Speaker 1: the atmosphere is up there. In Gatlinburg, you get a
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  Speaker 1: nice mix of Alabama and Tennessee fans. I know you
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  Speaker 1: guys were about a mid-evening arrival last night before you
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  Speaker 1: went to the cabin, though. You went down to the
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  Speaker 1: Shine Company to check in. Any early vibe on the
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  Speaker 1: excitement about Bama and Tennessee?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was kind of dead last night when we
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  Speaker 2: got into town, but boy, it has come alive this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Lance is blown away that at 10 o'clock Eastern time,
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  Speaker 2: we're Eastern time here, 10 o'clock Eastern time, to our
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  Speaker 2: left is Gatlinburg Parkway. So Tennessee Shine Company is right
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  Speaker 2: on the parkway, the main strip in Gatlinburg there. Lance,
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  Speaker 2: would you call this bumper-to-bumper stopped traffic right now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the old military terms, nut-to-butt. Nut-to-butt, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That is what you have got on this strip.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it is insane, the activity this early, I
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  Speaker 3: guess 10 o'clock Eastern time. But last night, Dunaway, I
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  Speaker 3: saw a lot of Tennessee. I didn't see any Alabama. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I've seen some more Alabama this morning. They've been up
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  Speaker 3: early and out moving around, and you get a lot
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  Speaker 3: of that. This game happens every other year up here
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  Speaker 3: for Alabama fans, so you get a lot of them
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  Speaker 3: to either come and stay in Pigeon Forge or they
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  Speaker 3: stay here in Gatlinburg for a couple days, make it
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  Speaker 3: a little extended weekend, and then just head over to
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  Speaker 3: Knoxville on game day. That's one of the things about
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  Speaker 3: being here in Gatlinburg at Tennessee Shine Company. You're going
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  Speaker 3: to see a lot of Bama fans milling around as
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  Speaker 3: the day goes and just enjoying Gatlinburg, Tennessee's gorgeous weather. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I thought one of the incredible things last night, we
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  Speaker 3: went to a local sports bar to watch, you know,
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  Speaker 3: my Dodgers get swept out and watch a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of the Seahawks and Broncos. And there was like 15
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  Speaker 3: Brewers fans, one dude. like full uniform, basically, alternative hat on.
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  Speaker 2: No Dodger fans. You were the only Dodger fan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and of course, you know, there was nothing to cheer about.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how I would know who
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  Speaker 2: were Dodger fans. Nothing good happened.
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys, we all do. We all get
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  Speaker 1: a little skewed on how many Dodger and or Rams
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  Speaker 1: fans there are in the South because we are so
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  Speaker 1: Lance adjacent that we hear so much about the Rams
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  Speaker 1: and Dodgers. I don't think there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: that live in the South that love the L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Teams.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we are close to the biggest fan of
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  Speaker 1: the world for the Rams and Dodgers. So you're still
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  Speaker 1: in the deep south there in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. So I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't expect there's a lot of– I would say there's
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  Speaker 1: more L.A. hate than there is L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Love. But these are Brewer fans. I mean, to Lance's point,
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  Speaker 2: like you've been in a sports bar, Dunaway, when a
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  Speaker 2: game's going on, and when something happens to cheer, the
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  Speaker 2: whole bar was– I mean, like at first, when we
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  Speaker 2: first walked in, the Seahawks and Broncos were on, and
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were cheering for that. I just assumed
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  Speaker 2: they were cheering for the NFL game. No, it was
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  Speaker 2: the baseball game. And there was like, Lance is right.
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  Speaker 2: They're like 15 to 20. legit Brewers fans in there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: One guy had his, you know, a row back, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Wisconsin collared shirt on. So like, you know, I guess
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  Speaker 3: it was just maybe a bunch of people came in
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  Speaker 3: from Wisconsin for whatever reason to visit Gatlinburg this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that I do agree with you done with,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of anti Dodgers fans, which I get that.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't like the Dodger, or if you're not
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  Speaker 3: a Dodgers fan, you absolutely hate that organization.
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  Speaker 2: And now you ain't got to worry about them with
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  Speaker 2: the three P that's right. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, Probably the Rams will be back, but
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers are out with Milwaukee sweeping them. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about what we saw last night. Troy is with me
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  Speaker 1: in the chat room. We hate them. LA is basically
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  Speaker 1: Yankees to us here in the South. We don't like
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  Speaker 1: anything in the North, and we don't like anything in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: That includes the sports team. A lot of people cheering
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  Speaker 1: for the Brewers last night. I would say vacationing in
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  Speaker 1: the Smoky Mountains, more likely people to drive down from
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  Speaker 1: Wisconsin to do that than from out in L.A. flying
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  Speaker 1: into a local airport and tripping over to the to
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  Speaker 1: the hillbilly mountains of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Broncos are That should be their uniforms permanently,
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  Speaker 1: and I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my takeaway from that game. The game
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  Speaker 2: itself was low scoring and not an offensive shootout. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: came down to the very end, nearing almost going to overtime.
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  Speaker 2: But my takeaway, and Lance will tell you this, when
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  Speaker 2: we sat down on the sports board just down the
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  Speaker 2: street here from Tennessee Shine Company, I looked at him
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  Speaker 2: and our host here, Richard Holland, who is with Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: Shine Company, a great friend of ours, a tremendous host,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, That should be their uniforms every Sunday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's a no-brainer. I mean, those uniforms.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's just something nostalgic that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we look back at the uniforms that we
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  Speaker 3: grew up with, but those are just good football uniforms.
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  Speaker 3: And as far as the game is concerned, this Denver
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  Speaker 3: offense is broken out. Look, they found a way to
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  Speaker 3: win the game, but you go.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton took back over. They didn't score 40.
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  Speaker 3: Three of 14 on third down. They had 168 total yards.
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  Speaker 3: They had 13 first downs. I mean, it just was
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  Speaker 3: a terrible offensive performance, and Sam Darnold bailed them out.
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  Speaker 3: Those two late picks that he threw, one in the
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter and one in overtime, that was the Sam
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  Speaker 3: Darnold that was seeing ghosts back with the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was such a terrible throw in overtime, didn't it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how you turn it over in overtime and win. I
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  Speaker 2: doubt that ever happens. But, boy, that turnover, that was
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  Speaker 2: just an awful throw. Let's go back to Bo Nix
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  Speaker 2: because that's a huge story. Ryan Fitzpatrick on the broadcast
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  Speaker 2: last night postgame. Quote, it is almost disrespectful.
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  Speaker 1: I'll start over. Quote from Ryan Fitzpatrick. It is almost
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  Speaker 1: disrespectful to the quarterback position how he's playing football right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's Ryan Fitzpatrick on the broadcast last night about Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Bo Nix is, is, is not play. I mean, he's,
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  Speaker 3: he's just bad right now and it, it doesn't make
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  Speaker 3: a lot of sense. I mean, you've seen fourth quarter
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  Speaker 3: Bo and you saw it against the Rams on that
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  Speaker 3: Sunday night. He can pull some of these games.
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  Speaker 2: Out of his ass.
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  Speaker 3: He did against the Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean, they've got
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  Speaker 3: quality wins. They're sitting at four and two. They beat
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  Speaker 3: in the Jags. They beat in the Rams. They beat
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  Speaker 3: in the Seahawks. Um, but he's just not playing good
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  Speaker 3: football and he was playing really, really good football before
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  Speaker 3: the ankle injury last year.
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  Speaker 2: Um, were bottom 10 quarterback in the NFL? Is it
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  Speaker 2: that bad? You think guys? Uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's done away. You think it's bottom 10?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it to rank them that way,
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  Speaker 1: but I know there's a lot of bad quarterback play
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL at times. Um, and he's, he's on
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  Speaker 1: a team that's four and two. So I always go
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  Speaker 1: with the win loss column when it comes to quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing what you need to do to help
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  Speaker 1: your team win games or to not lose games is
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  Speaker 1: what it comes down to. Like Sam Darnold, You guys
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  Speaker 1: would say he's a better quarterback, I guess, than Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 1: but Sam Darnold cost his team the game last night.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. He is a better quarterback at times than
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix, but to Jim's point, Bo Nix wasn't the
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  Speaker 2: one out there in overtime throwing the interception.
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  Speaker 3: They scored 29 at home last week against the best
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  Speaker 3: team in the NFL in San Francisco, but he still
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  Speaker 3: turned the football over three times. You go back to
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  Speaker 3: the Commander's loss, which was baffling. They turned it over
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  Speaker 3: four times, so he's not protecting the football as good
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  Speaker 3: as Dornan was last year.
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  Speaker 2: He's losing a little bit of that. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: blame it on Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: Flory, the guy that looks like a Russian mobster, the
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, first-year offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: For the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 3: But, man, both of these quarterbacks, and I know, Dunaway,
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  Speaker 3: you said 4-2, and I get it, but that is
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  Speaker 3: the Denver defense. Without two key parts last night, they
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  Speaker 3: still had five sacks. They turned over Seattle those two times.
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  Speaker 3: Denver didn't turn it over. I give Bo Nix credit there.
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  Speaker 3: He did throw a couple of late balls that should
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  Speaker 3: have been picked, but they still had no turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but throughout history, you can go through guys that
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  Speaker 1: just did what they had to do at that position
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  Speaker 1: to keep their team from losing, and they played for
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  Speaker 1: or won a Super Bowl along the way. So that's
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  Speaker 1: all Denver wants right now. That's all they can hope
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  Speaker 1: from Bo Nix right now is that you manage the
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  Speaker 1: game and you win more than you lose. They win
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  Speaker 1: last night in overtime, 17-14. and that is a team
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  Speaker 1: that has elite defense. Quickly to baseball, because we want
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  Speaker 1: to get to the 2014 playoff, all the great games
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  Speaker 1: we have this weekend, but the 2014 playoff discussion coming
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  Speaker 1: up here momentarily as we continue on the next round
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by our friends at Hard Rock Bet.
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  Speaker 1: In baseball, the Guardians go up 2-1 on the Rays.
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  Speaker 1: They play again tonight in game four of that series,
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  Speaker 1: crucial game for Tampa Bay to try to even up
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  Speaker 1: the series. But the whole sports world not just baseball fans,
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  Speaker 1: but the whole sports world is talking about the $ 339
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  Speaker 1: million sweep of the Los Angeles Dodgers. The Brewers are
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  Speaker 1: back in the World Series for the first time since 1982.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you the four starters for the L.A. Dodgers,
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  Speaker 1: when you throw all their money in a pile, they
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  Speaker 1: average about $ 31. 4 million a year apiece. Yamamoto makes 20.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else makes more than $ 32 million a year. They're
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  Speaker 1: starting four in these losses with Scooble, Yamamoto, Snell, and Glasnow,
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  Speaker 1: and they are 0-4 out the gate, done.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know I don't watch much baseball. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: pretending that I do. So we're driving up here to
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  Speaker 2: Knoxville and Gatlinburg, and Lance is like, hey, can we
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  Speaker 2: flip on the Dodgers game, first pitch? So we flip
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  Speaker 2: on Rick Monday and Charlie Steiner. And Charlie Steiner Dunaway
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  Speaker 2: is like, here comes Will Smith to the plate. And
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  Speaker 2: Lance is like, Brownie, he is one for 25 in
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  Speaker 2: the postseason. I said, is it this your cleanup hitter?
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  Speaker 2: He's like, yes, it is our cleanup hitter. He's one
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  Speaker 2: of 25 in the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: I got to bring these numbers up because this is
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  Speaker 3: how bad the offense was for the Dodgers. Shohei ended
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  Speaker 3: up hitting 192 in the postseason. Freddie Freeman, 172. Mookie Betts, 207.
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  Speaker 3: Will Smith, 097. to Oscar Hernandez, 200, Max Muncy, 208,
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  Speaker 3: and Kiki Hernandez, 071. I mean, nobody could swing it
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  Speaker 3: for the Dodgers this postseason. And you look at the Brewers,
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  Speaker 3: as good as they were in the regular season, and
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  Speaker 3: they played a lot of small ball, winning 102 games,
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  Speaker 3: they were 29th in home runs. So next to dead
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  Speaker 3: last in the majors, they are leading this postseason with
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  Speaker 3: 10 home runs, including two more yesterday. So Everything is
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  Speaker 3: really coming together for this Brewers team. Not making excuses
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  Speaker 3: for the Dodgers because.
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  Speaker 2: There was an excuse. There are none. And they outplayed
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  Speaker 2: them in the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm watching the chat room. People are like, conspiracy theory,
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers needed to throw this so the Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball wouldn't put the salary cap in or this or that. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have a stoppage of play next year,
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  Speaker 1: so the Dodgers are going to have to wear this
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  Speaker 1: one probably deep into July, August. We may miss a
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  Speaker 1: whole season of baseball next year. So that big payroll
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  Speaker 1: is going to have to wear this one for a long,
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  Speaker 1: long time there in Los Angeles. So baseball continues. Yesterday
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  Speaker 1: we got big news in the 2014 playoff world. We
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about that in a couple of different ways. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but quickly guys, tell me again about the Tennessee shine
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  Speaker 1: company and where you guys are today. Cause I see
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  Speaker 1: the boxed. Is that moonshine behind you guys right now
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  Speaker 1: in the two boxes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, um, this is blue Houdini done away. They
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  Speaker 2: call it the panty dropper. Oh, really? Of course they do. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it says right here. The panty dropper. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just mind it. Cause I'm not wearing any.
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  Speaker 2: This is a good stocking stuffer. Uh, this is Pina Colada.
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  Speaker 2: This is Cotton Candy, and that's another Blue Houdini. And
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  Speaker 2: then what they also have here is Duck Blind, which is,
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  Speaker 2: this is Riley Green, Jack State Gamecock, Riley Green. This
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  Speaker 2: is his brand of espresso coffee. And where we are
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  Speaker 2: sitting right now is, like I said, right on the strip.
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  Speaker 2: here in Gatlinburg, and they're going to be selling Riley
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  Speaker 2: Green gear in here. They're building a bar upstairs. This
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  Speaker 2: place is going to be really cool. There's one of
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  Speaker 2: these at Pigeon Forge as well. Now, are they auctioning
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  Speaker 2: Riley Green off later for a Friday night? I can't
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  Speaker 2: say no to that. I wouldn't say they're not. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think some of these Gatlinburg women would pay?
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  Speaker 2: The line would be out the door. The line would
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  Speaker 2: be out the door.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great setup. More than that ride down Uber Gatlinburg.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be lined up longer than that.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: So the tasting room opens at 10 o'clock, so it's
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  Speaker 3: already open. They said about 11 or 12, it gets really,
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  Speaker 3: really crowded. But you can come in, you can get
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  Speaker 3: flights of eight different flavors that you can taste. It's
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  Speaker 3: a really, really cool setup. And last night when we
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  Speaker 3: got here, Dunaway, in the background, they had Hair Nation on.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, Hair Nation. Nothing but 80s hair pants. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: That's... That's my kind of music. That's my kind of
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  Speaker 1: music there.
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  Speaker 2: 80s hair. Back in the AM days, Dunaway and I
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: used to do, was it Hairband Thursday or Power Ballad Thursday?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Power Ballad Fridays.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Power Ballad Fridays.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: You were very close, man. Power Ballad Fridays. That was
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: a good way to go to the weekend.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: It may have been a different day, Brownie. I'll give
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: that to you.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I think it was Fridays. No, I think you're right.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I think we started in the summer. We're like, hey,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: feel good Friday. We're going to do some Power Ballads.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Pretend we're at PCB doing the show. A little Power
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Ballad playing. Some Slaughter. Some Cinderella.
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: We're going to play that right now.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I'm going to talk to Furman coming up
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: at 11 o'clock Eastern, 10 Central Hour 2. We'll go
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: through all the big games. But there was an exciting,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: fun college football game in our market here in Birmingham
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: last night where UAB rallied. They trailed by 14 in
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the first half. Guys, they were down 8. with just
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: 62 seconds. Well, they were down eight with just over
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: a minute, a little more than 62 seconds. They had
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: no timeouts. And they go 93 yards in 62 seconds
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: to send that thing into overtime. Then they won it
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: in overtime. And in a rare case, it was a
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: win in overtime, not by six, seven, or eight points.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: It was by 30 to 17 because they walk it
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: off with a pick six.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I told Lance this morning, I said, you saw two
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: things in that game last night that you probably will
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: never see again. UAB had nine points with under a
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: minute to go and scored 30. That's pretty hard to do, right?
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: To have nine with under a minute to go and
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: score 30. And then they also won in overtime by
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: 13 points. Those two things combined in a game probably
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: have never happened. Well... The total was 49 and a half.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine. Is that a bad beat?
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Well, it didn't go over, so it stayed under, but
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that you even had to sweat that
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: because this was the absolute stone-cold lock under the way
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: it played out. I was telling Brown, though, Dunaway, back
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: in 1996, I faded the Arizona State Sun Devils, and
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: you guys probably remember that Bruce Snyder team.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Jake Parker was the quarterback.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: They go undefeated and played against them every week, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget late in the season, we had a
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: huge play on UCLA plus 12.5.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: It goes to overtime.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: The only way you can lose it, Arizona State scores
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: a touchdown in the first overtime and then a pick six,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: and they win by 13.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: 12.5, that is as bad a loss as you can have.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: It was awful.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was right up there with the NC
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: State against Vanderbilt this past year. But, I mean, what
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: a win for Alex Mortensen. And now four and three overall,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: two and one in conference. Congratulations to him because it
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: seems like the culture just in one short year has
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: completely flowed up.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Hey, and Jim, New Jersey Ben in the chat says this,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and I think it's apparent. They play hard for Alex Mortensen.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I think that team– plays really hard for Alex that
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that type of play for Trent Dilfer.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I saw it week zero, Dunaway, when, you know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: they're down to Illinois. You know, they're down to 26.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: They never stopped in that game.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 26, 27.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: And, you know, they're just grinding it out on that
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: final possession. He gets hard play out of them. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: they've gotten better. I mean, look, they didn't play well
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: for three and a half years. last night, but they
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: were a substantial 5.5-point underdog, and they found a way
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: to win that game.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And they're riding that Todd Grantham defense there. Kyron says,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: good win for Alex Mortensen. Caleb was at the game.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Caleb in the chat says, I left the UAB game
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: early because I thought it was over. I got home,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and they won in overtime. Good win by the Blazers,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and I just love seeing the support for them. It's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: good to have UAB back on the radar after the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: era they were in the last couple of years, 4-3,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: 2-1 in the American League. as they win last night.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, before we get to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the games on the field this weekend, our 2014 college
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: football playoff looks like it's going to start next year.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: We broke that story in the second half of our
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: next round live show. This will give us a chance
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to talk about it on the sport and state platform,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: but also I want to attack it through this. What
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: are some of the things that we're going to be losing?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Some of the things you're concerned about. Who are we
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: doing this for? because we've all made a point that
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it's not for the fans because the fans are not
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: in favor of this. If you did a poll, I
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's 8 out of 10, 9 out
• 19:38
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• 19:41
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• 19:43
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• 19:55
  Speaker 1: just uh my observation from afar do we have uh
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a fly a gnat yeah uh what what are you
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: swinging at occasionally there Yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: It's these, they're not really fruit flies, but, you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: if you work in bars, they top the liquor because
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: these flies are attracted to it. And they've done a
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: great job here, but there's just so many open bottles
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: and so many tastings going on. Some of the flies
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: have gotten in here. And, yeah, I just got a
• 20:21
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• 20:25
  Speaker 3: out of here and he shot the video of me
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: just swatting flies.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's so much traffic here at Tennessee Shine Company,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: they have to basically leave the doors open. or else
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: it's just going to be open, close, open, close, open, close, open,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: close all day. And then they've got some of the
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: overhead doors that open up when the weather's cooled off
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a bit, Jim. So there's no barrier to the flies
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: getting in. And as Lance said, they're drawn to alcohol
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: and apparently drawn to Lance and me.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if I could find like a dead squirrel or
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: rat or possum on the strip out here, I'd roll
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: it over in the corner just to attract the flies
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I have felt like we're doing a
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: child hunger PSA for quite a while this morning. Sally Struthers.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Sally Struthers talking to the background.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you can fight through it, I mean,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I do appreciate y'all's service, but if you can fight
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: through it, we can't see him on the air. It
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: did look a little weird one time I looked up
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and LT was swirling around in his chair, swatting him,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Lance is trying to Miyagi it. He keeps trying to
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: catch him in the air. Miyagi did it with chopsticks.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: He did it with chopsticks.
• 21:27
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• 22:15
  Speaker 1: so much. All right, to the 2014 playoff that was
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: announced yesterday, it is expected to start, not official yet,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: but expected to start in 2027. Stuart Mandel, Bruce Feldman,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: just a few of the many national media people that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: keep asking, why are we doing this? Stuart Mandel is
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: sharing some of his text once the news was broke
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: by Pete Thamel of ESPN. And this is from people
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: in the business, but he doesn't put their names. One
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: text said, just sickening. One text says, a real shame.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: One text said, so stupid. One text said, what's the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: point of the regular season now? So let's break this down.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Instead of going big picture, let me throw some topics
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: at you first. The first one, do you guys think
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: going to a 2014 playoff that we will have better
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: out-of-conference scheduling like they're leading us to believe that we
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: will because now you've got margin for error a little bit,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: so you can still make the playoffs with a loss.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Or do you think that out-of-conference scheduling, other than a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: mandated game against this or that, will change greatly at all?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think this changes the landscape of scheduling at all? Lance,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you first.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to get more marquee matches because
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I think going into, you know, where we are right
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: now currently with the 12-team playoff, if you're in the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Big Ten or the SEC, we know that magic number
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: is 10-2. I think going to 24, the magic number
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: is going to be 8-4, especially for a lot of brands,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: so you can absorb a couple of losses, not a
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: big deal at all. And to give you an example,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and this is why this is so stupid, everybody anointed
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the Rams maybe the greatest team ever, and they hadn't
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: played a game. Now they're 2-3. They dick around. They're
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: not going to make the postseason. Notre Dame going into
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: this season for a 24-team playoff, You could go on
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: and say they are in the college football playoff. There
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: was no chance they could lose more than three or
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: four games with this schedule. Really no chance. More than two.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: So I do think it will diminish, obviously, a lot
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: of these regular season games. But I do think, to
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: your original question, we're going to get more of the
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: marquee matchups because that's going to bring in more revenue,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: more fan interest, people going to the games. more of
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: a buzz around the sport. So I definitely think that
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: that will be one of the few benefits with the 2014.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: But Jim, I think these, what I'm about to say,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: these two things go hand in hand. I think you're
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: also going to get Fox and ESPN leaning on the
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Big Ten and the SEC teams to say, we pay
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: you guys a lot of money. We got to get
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: something back for that. And with this margin for error,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: you've got to give us better games. Like What the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Big Ten has given Fox this year has been an
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: embarrassment at a conference. If I'm Fox, I am furious
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: at what I'm getting out of the Big Ten. So, yes,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I think those two things go hand in hand, that
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the TV partners now can go back to the conferences,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the two major conferences, and say, we've got to get
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: better inventory out of you guys. There's more margin for
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: error now, so you've got no excuse not to give
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: it to us if we're still going to cut these
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: big checks.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I disagree with.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: You both, though.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Other than the Big Ten... Mandating they play one power
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: four team like the SEC that I don't think it'll
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: change at all. I think Indiana, who doesn't play anybody
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: power four now, will play one. And everybody will play one,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and you'll still have two easy games because the bar
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: is lower now. Because you guys said it, I don't
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: have to go 10-2 anymore. So I'm not going to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: risk it with having to play nine conference games and
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: one out-of-conference game. So I'm going to play 10 tough games.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Those other two are going to be give-me-wins games. And
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I'm shooting for that 9-3 mark because 9-3 is going
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to get me in. And unless you mandate me to
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: play anymore, I'm not going to do it. So I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: don't think it's going to change the scheduling at all.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I almost wish you could get the four conference commissioners together.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I know this would never happen. And it's almost like
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: ACC Big 12, you've got to play crossover games every year.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: And the Big 10 and the SEC do the same
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: on top of that nine-game schedule.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But I also think, Jim– One thing that will help,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if this will happen, but if
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the selection committee maybe puts a 10-2 team in the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: top eight seats and say, hey, look, they played a
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: really difficult schedule. Their 10-2 is better than this 11-1
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: or 12-0.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: They've never done that so far. They've never done that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: so far, though.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And I don't disagree with you. They have not, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know that they will because as college football fans,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: we are so programmed to say 12-0 is better than 11-1,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: regardless of how you got to 12-0 and how I
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: got to 11-1. there has always been this emphasis on
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: going undefeated in college football. And to the point that
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Kurt Cignetti is like, I can go 12-0 if I
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: play nobody out of conference. All I got to do
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: is win a couple of key in-conference games, and I'm 12-0.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: But I think we'll finally see that. Speaking of Cignetti,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you know, I think Indiana is going to win this
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: game tomorrow. Again, it's 11 o'clock game, so I'll stay
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: away from it. But if they do win, that's Ohio
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: State's second loss. They've still got difficult games up at
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: USC and Oregon. Let's say they absorbed that third loss.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: It was one of my early three guarantees. Loser of
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Texas and Ohio State will be the first three-loss team
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: to get in. So I think that shows you just
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: by scheduling that difficult game, you can lose three games.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And going to 24, you can lose that fourth game.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think four is a guarantee. It puts you
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: on the bubble. But three, you're locked in. So I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I don't trust anybody. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this about the Big Ten. I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: don't trust anybody to schedule tougher when I know, man,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: if I get to 9-3 in the SEC or the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Big Ten, then I'm going to be fine. So I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: will schedule my mandated 1-4, but I'm going to keep
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: two layups in there, man.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Well, and Dunaway, think about this.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: 9-3, to me, for premier programs is a disappointing, borderline
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: terrible season. Brian Kelly was averaging over nine wins a season. So, like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: this is a guy that LSU fired, and nine and
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: three will be the minimum.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: That's right. But, Jim, the one thing I do not
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: know is how much these coaches are going to value
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: a top eight seed. Like, I think they'll value it
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: a lot, right? You get a bye week, then you
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: get to host a home game before you have to
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: start hitting the road. And whatever the selection committee or
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the playoff does to incentivize you what have they incentivized
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you to do to earn that one through eight seed
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: will determine what these coaches do does that make sense
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: so oh.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah if they put a big value on
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: scheduling tough and giving you like we do in basketball
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: uh big credit for quality losses but we've never done
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that in college football we never give you a huge
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: credit for quality losses.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah they've never done that and Until they change that,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know that there is incentive to schedule more
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: difficult other than the TV networks applying pressure, saying we
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: can't keep cutting these checks and you guys pocketing all
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: this money if you don't start scheduling some better inventory.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: It seems like we're doing this, I guess, for the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Big 12 and the ACC to get more teams in.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, the SEC and the Big 10 are going
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to eat up a lot of the 19 wildcard spots
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: we're talking about here, which sounds enormous. But they're going
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to eat up a lot of those, yes. But that's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: also going to open. the door for more Big 12,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: more ACC to get in. And 12 just seemed like
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a great number. I'd love for it to go on
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit longer. You guys would agree fans aren't
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: really for this. The TV networks, Brownie, there's not really
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a desire for it from the TV networks. The Athletics
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: reporting that it may just be just north of $ 300
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: extra million. And when you've got to pay $ 250 million
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: to the networks to buy out of the conference championship games,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you're not giving them anymore. The profit margin over these
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: next few years is going to be relatively small, speaking
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of big picture. for adding these extra games. So it's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: not even an enormous amount of extra money.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's what we talked about when we
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: started looking at some of the matchups when we were
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: discussing this. We're like, does that feel like a matchup
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that ESPN is going to pay a ton more money for?
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: No.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: And that's the surprising thing to me on this. Now,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: if you told me that Fox had jumped in and like, okay,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: this is our shot to get in here. And they
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: got some of the inventory and CBS got some of
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the inventory. There was a bidding for that. I could
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: see this, but that's not what has happened here. ESPN
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: has basically told them, We'll pay X for these extra games,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and everybody has apparently said yes to that, or will soon.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: The natural progression is a smooth, even 16.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I keep trying to make this point. We've only done
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: 12 the right way one time. One time. Last year,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: you're right. Last year was the only time we did
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: 12 without screwing up the seating. Yeah, year one was
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: a disaster. Yeah, year one, they had it completely screwed up. Okay.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And then they learn from their mistakes. We've done 12
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: right one time, and we've already said, okay, that's enough.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's double it now.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I actually thought the max number would be eight, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: we never even had eight.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: It went four to 12.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to do two things really quick. By
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the way, Brooks is working on a graphic he's going
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to send out of how many eight and four teams.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: How many eight and four teams would have made the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: college football playoff at 24 since 2014? He'll have that
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: out at some point today at Next Round Live, but
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: there are some that would have made the playoffs with
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: an 8-4 record in college football. Two things before we
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: take our next break on this and start talking about
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the games in the field, Furman at the top of
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the hour here on Sporting State. I did the first-round matchups,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: who they play second round, incorrectly in the mood yesterday.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So I want to show you the bracket that On3
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: has put together for us here. And this is the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: way Georgia would actually play the winner of the 17-16 game.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Not the 24-9 game. I was going worst team in
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the field, putting them on the side with Georgia, but
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: that is incorrect. So they would actually play the winner
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: of the Iowa-Mississippi State game and start, but winner would
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: go play Georgia. SMU Ole Miss winner would go to BYU.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: On the next part of the bracket, Houston at Missouri,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: winner goes and plays at Ohio State. Wake Forest at UCLA,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the winner goes and plays Indiana. Then you move down
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: to the next region or the next part of the bracket,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State at Kentucky. The winner goes to Notre Dame.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Boise State at Texas Tech with a winner going to Texas.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: USC at Tennessee with a winner going to Miami. And
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: then LSU at Utah with a winner going to Alabama.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Now that's based off the current AP Top 24. There
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: obviously would be a college football playoff ranking at that point.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: And so that's the way the bracket would look. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: would say this about the college football selection committee and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: all that. At this point, I would love to go
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: back to a computer rating system, the old BCS, if
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you will, or automatic play-ins with certain number of conference
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: teams making it, where it's all like the NFL, where
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it's strictly about your standings in your conference. Which would
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you guys prefer of three choices? College football playoff committee,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: ranking the top 24 and seeding them, a BCS-like computer
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: model with the top 24 teams with only your auto
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: bids for the four conference champions, Notre Dame with some
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: criteria and a group of six? Or would you rather
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: have an NFL-like certain number from each conference and you
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: play your way in based on the standings in your conference?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Which would you prefer?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I would say... You started all this by asking,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: will we get better games at a conference? If you're
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: only basing it on conference standings, the answer is no. Like,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: why in the world would I play Notre Dame or
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Alabama or Ohio State If all I got to do
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: is finish top two, top three, top four in my conference,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: it's all about my conference. Yeah, that one's completely out.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I got to throw it out because of that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: And going to option A, I am sick of this
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: committee anyway. I think most people are, and they have
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: a hard time battling for 12 and to throw 24
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: out there. I think the option B, the old BCS numbers,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: because we do this every year. We look at, well,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: what would this have looked like in the BCS days?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: A lot of times it's cleaner. And a lot of
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: times the computers, the robots getting it right. So I
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: would definitely 100%, if you're going to expand it, which
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: we know is going to happen, obviously, I think you
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: got to go to option B and go with the
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: BCS standings.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And here's the biggest concern of all. And I'd love
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this. We'd already gotten a little bit
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to this with current college students in this college generation,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: but we're about to raise a whole generation of college
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: football fans to that are not going to know what
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: we grew up with. And I'll go back to 2011.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: The scenes in the bars in Tuscaloosa on a Friday
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: night when Oklahoma State gets upset by Iowa State and
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: beers are flying in the air, champagne is popping, there's
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: screams and dancing. It's like the ball has just dropped
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: on the strip in Tuscaloosa and it's a new year.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Because Alabama in 2011 was back in the national championship
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: hunt because of a road game in Ames, Iowa, between
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State and Iowa State. And I believe there's a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: fiber of college football that made that, though you didn't
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: always have the best teams playing for the championship, there
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: was a little bit of that fiber on a Saturday
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: evening or a Friday night when you were pulling for
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: an upset that I think we're going to lose a
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: little bit of as we move forward. Am I right
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: or am I wrong?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: No, I think you're absolutely right about that. And incidentally,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: do you bring that up because you just watched that
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: part of the Saban documentary by chance? No, I have
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: not got to that part yet. Okay, well, then I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: won't ruin it for you because there's something interesting about that.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: And they do show the footage from Innisfree when Iowa
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: State pulled that upset of Oklahoma State. Jim's exactly right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know if we get those
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: games right now. Yeah, I don't think we do. Yeah,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: but you're certainly not going to get them in a 24.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: You know, we lost that after the 14 playoff. You
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: still had those moments late in November where a team
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: would get upset and everybody was pulling against that team
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: or pulling for that team.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: But that changed when we went to 12. Yeah, you
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: randomly get, like, Miami at Syracuse two years ago. Wasn't
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: that right? Was that Syracuse upset Miami, and that knocked
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: them out right at the end, and that gave Clemson
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the spot in the title game? Yeah, well, last year
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you had SMU lose at Cal. That's right. So you'll
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: get a few of those. So I guess we can't
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: say that they've completely disappeared. But now they're, Jim, determining, okay,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: this is for the 10th seed, 11th seed, 12th seed.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: In the future, it's going to be, okay, well, team 24,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: 25 is now team 24. To your point, that was
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to determining which team was going to be number two
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: playing LSU, who was going to be number one. Yeah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: And I guess, lastly, this has been my last point
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: four times. Have you guys heard anything about what we're
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: going to do with bowl games next year? I mean,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: does this end most of them?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I think they're dead. I mean, I have not heard that, no.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's saying the conference championship games are dead,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and I think that's obvious.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Do you remember the last time Sony was like, hey,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I'm going to this bowl game?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: No.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, unless it was part of the playoff,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you know, those I assume will hang around the big ones.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: But I assume we're about to lose all the ones
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: in Tampa and Orlando and things like that.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just remember fraternity brothers of mine getting in
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: a car and driving to Tampa to go to one
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: of these bowl games, and I just don't think that's
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: a thing anymore.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, if you're asking me, I'd rather have
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: those on-campus games first week of December than a bowl
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: game December 21st. I mean, that's my opinion. I'd rather
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: have what they're going to give us. I'm not going
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: to mourn the loss of the bowl games. I think
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: they're outdated and they've run their course. as long as
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: we're replacing them with football games and we'll be not
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: only replacing them with football games, but at least more
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: meaningful football games than what the bowl game actually is.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: So to me, that's not a negative at all. For me,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that's an upgrade for the fan.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And I know that was part of the fiber of
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: college football, the bowl games and the reward after the season,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: and even the conference championship games for the last almost
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: 35 years.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: But I think both have run their course.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say this. You know, if you're in
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: most sports, the playoffs are the most watched thing in
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: your sport. And it's always been the regular season for
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the most part. Big, massive numbers like 12 million this
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: past week for Alabama and Georgia. If you've got all
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: these playoff games happening on a Saturday in week one
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: or a few on Thursday, Friday and Saturday in the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: first week of the playoffs, where now you have that
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: many games. on top of each other and then eventually
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the NFL chiming in on Saturday as well, I don't
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: know what these TV ratings are going to be either.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: And I think that's why they may not end up
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: getting as much number, financial number, as they think they're
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: going to get or maybe what they probably deserve if
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: it was on a different– you know, a different schedule
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: if it was the ability to stay away from the
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: NFL and not have to stack games on top of
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: each other. I don't want to be the old guy
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: standing on top of the roof while the floodwaters come,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: but I think it's a sad day for college football
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that we're going to 24.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I really do. I really do.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I'm 12. I'm good with 12. Would have loved to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: stay at 12, even though that sometimes that would mean
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: my beloved team, whoever that would be, whoever you cheer for,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: would be left out. It sucks being 13 or 14. But,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: my goodness, it is almost everybody gets a trophy time
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: now when it comes to college football.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Well, we evolve in every space out there, but can
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: you imagine, like– Let's just say Bo Schembechler or Bear Bryant.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: You bring one of these guys back, and you're like,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: you know, this quarterback right now, Sam Levitt, leads the
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: SEC in picks with eight, and he's getting paid $ 6 million.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: That's right, more than you ever made.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: And we are going to have 24 teams that are
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: going to be competing for a national championship in the postseason.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, and they're playing at the Hall of Fame Bowl? No,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: even more. Coach, those don't exist anymore.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: David says this is called socialism. This is called socialism
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: for college football. Everyone shares no matter how little you do. David,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: we have that in every major sport, by the way.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Rev shares and all of that. The college football world
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: has just now been drug into that. All right, when
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: we come back to the– oh, go ahead, Lance. You
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: got one more thought?
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I was just going to say it shows you the
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: popularity of the number two sport right now in America.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's why we're here.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: But I think it got to be number two because
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: of how different it is from the NFL, and now
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: we're making it pseudo-NFL, and we'll see if it survives.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: NASCAR screwed it up one time. Baseball eventually screwed it up,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and now they're trying to drag it back. So we'll
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: see if this helps or hurts college football down the road.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: But that's for another time. Six ranked games, some other
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: massive games this weekend. We'll start talking about those big ones,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: including the one there in Tennessee where those guys are
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: at the Tennessee Shine Company when we come back. Furman
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. It's the next round
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: here on Sporting State. Back with you on the next
• 41:53
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• 41:56
  Speaker 1: in Birmingham. The guys are at the Tennessee Shine Company
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: up there in beautiful Gatlinburg, Tennessee for the Alabama-Tennessee game.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that coming up in just a second.
• 42:07
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• 42:10
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• 42:12
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• 42:20
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• 42:24
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• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Both Damien and Brett agree with what I brought up
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: in the summer. The non-playoff bowls should flip and be
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: kickoff games to start the season.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Week zero or just predetermined out-of-conference games that you invite,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: not based off of anything from last season. You just
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: try to get a big matchup for your town with
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: your bowl logo on to continue that tradition and trophy
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and turn those into kickoff games. I would be all
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: for that. Alabama-Tennessee is a conference game. It's a tradition.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: They meet for the 109th time. this weekend. This time
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: it's in Knoxville, Tennessee, where the Vols have won the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: last two. Here is Alabama defensive coordinator Kane Womack on
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: the importance of slowing down the Tennessee run game.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: You talked about the explosive plays.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Just how important is that to kind of limit those
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: when you have a back like Bishop coming in this game?
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, this is going to be,
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: it'll be critical. I mean, you know, you think about
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: What Tennessee is doing really well right now is they
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: are playing team football. They are running the football. They're
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: committed to running the football. They are finding explosive plays
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: off of them running the football. And so it's all
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: predicated them running in their running game and then creating
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: explosives out of their run game and then the shots
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: that come off of it in the passing game. And
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: so what they're doing a really good job of, right,
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: is they're playing that complementary style of football where they're
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: establishing the run, keeping the clock, and then on defense,
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: I think they lead in the country in sacks right now,
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: so they're getting offenses in negative positions and getting off
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: the field on third down because of it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Lance, Brownie, everybody will be in their home jerseys, crimson
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and orange tomorrow. It does seem like Tennessee has already
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: become a one-dimensional team on their own. How important is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: it to take the runaway tomorrow for Bama? I'll start
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: with you, Lance. I feel like this game is trending
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: towards an underplay for me, whatever the total is. I
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: picture this being a low-scoring game.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Well, Hypel obviously wants to dictate tempo here. They're 15th
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: nationally in running the football. Deshaun Bishop has already got
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: 678 yards rushing.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: He's been fantastic.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: 220 against Auburn. I know Auburn fans remember that. You know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: George McIntyre getting that first start on the road against
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Arkansas turned it over three times. Alabama's pass defense has
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: been shaky. I don't think they've got to worry about that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: But Ryan Coleman Williams is going to be out. Keelan
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Russell will have an opportunity against one of the worst
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: pass defenses, the worst pass defense. in the SEC right now, 16th,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: but 110th nationally. I've just got a feeling, Dunaway, that
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: somehow Tennessee's going to yuck this thing up with Deshaun Bishop.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Their defense will put pressure with, you know, kind of
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: a patchwork offensive line.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: And I think Tennessee keeps it close.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: I think Alabama wins the game, but I think it
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: is a low-scoring game, to your point.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Think about this now. In the Josh Heupel era, where
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: do you think they have been better, at quarterback or
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: at running back? Oh, running back. Running back. Easy. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Like, I mean, he's thought of as this,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: you know, he could develop quarterbacks. He's got this passer
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: friendly system, but they've been better at running back than
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: they have a quarterback. I mean, really just Dylan Sampson
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: to Deshaun Bishop. Just those two together probably win the
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: battle over any any they've had a quarterback. So, I mean,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: that shows you, Jim, where the emphasis is for this team.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: They they know their path to victory is Deshaun Bishop
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: having a big game. And Alabama, oddly last year, was
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: really good against the pass, and they were susceptible to
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the run. Their defense is the exact opposite of that
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: this year. They've been better against the run than they
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: have the pass.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: But they were not last week. Georgia exported some bad gaps,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: and they had some big runs. You can't let Deshaun
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Bishop do that this week.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I agree with Landmine Believer. One of the things to
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: watch in this game is Rayson Delgatti being out. He's
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: doubtful for the game at center against that great Tennessee
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: defensive line. Pressure up the middle for the young quarterback
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: and the inability to run the football for Alabama could
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: make this a more interesting game. Delgatti's injury to me,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: tell me I'm crazy, but Delgatti's injury to me more
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: important than Ryan Coleman Williams' injury.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I was about to say it, so I'm not going
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: to tell you you're crazy. If you, as an Alabama fan,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: could pick, I think a lot of them would pick
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: having Dale Gotti in there and take what you get
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: from the rest of the receivers, Lance. But, boy, having
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: a center, especially on the road, having your starting center
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: is huge.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: It's been a pleasant surprise, not only the way he
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: has played coming over from Cal Poly, but just the
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: way the entire unit has played. Now you lose your
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: quarterback in that hostile environment where communication is going to
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: be difficult, especially– Tennessee makes a play or two early
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: and you know, they're right there in that ball game.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: So I do think that is the bigger loss. And
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: think about this done away. We were on with the,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: you know, our buddies Hutton and Withrow earlier. How, how
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: much does this perception, not only in the sec, but
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: nationally change if Tennessee was to win this game?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, Tennessee's 14th right now, is that right? 14th.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: They'll be a top 10 team. Top 10 team and
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a playoff team.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: You know, coming off that loss to Georgia, most people view,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: you know, Alabama is one of the top five teams
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: for sure in college football. But you lose to a
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: quarterback making his second start that doesn't look good right now.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Boy, it just flips everything.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I believe because of Tennessee's situation on their offense and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, it doesn't change their national perception much with
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the win. It changes the SEC and Alabama's perception tremendously.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Alabama perceived, as you said, as a top five team.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why the SEC looks back.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: like the SEC is back to maybe its college football dominance.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: An Alabama loss here that puts a middling Tennessee offense
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: back higher rated, and that makes the SEC look a
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: little weaker to me if Alabama can't hold serve on
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the road this weekend. Here's Josh Heupel getting asked why
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Alabama is such a tough test this weekend.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Alabama's a huge test.
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: What specifically are they doing that make them a huge
• 50:03
  Speaker 10: test and including maybe running the football better than they
• 50:05
  Speaker 10: did last year?
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: Uh, they are, um, much more efficient, effective, uh, running
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: the football quarterbacks, dynamic, uh, player. Um, you know, he's
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: throwing extremely efficiently, bunch of yards, uh, but extends makes,
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: makes plays with his feet. Um, scramble to run but
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: also throw the football down the field if you're not
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: matching things out so you know us defensively massive test
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: and you know them defensively big strong physical up front
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: second level very active they've made it difficult to run
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: the football and I've given up a ton of explosives
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: they've gotten their hands on a bunch of balls created
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: turnovers as.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Well So that's Josh Heupel on Alabama. So you guys
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: gave me a feel about that game. If I said
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Tennessee pulls the upset, I would assume your star of
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: the game would be Deshaun Bishop.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Deshaun Bishop. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I mean, I think that's
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: really their only path. Yeah.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: I think he would have to go 180 plus, a
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns. You know, Keelan would have to turn
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: it over a couple of times. You know, all this
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: stuff is possible, though. I think if they played this
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: game ten times the way both are playing, I think
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Alabama wins seven or eight of those games. But, you know,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: it is one of those sneaky, dangerous games. You know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: the numbers drop back down to seven and a half
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: right now. Again, I think Alabama wins the game, but
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's closer than a lot of people believe.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel a little more 28-17, Dunaway. I think,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: what was your score, 20-13?
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: 20-13.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm 28-17 Alabama. That's kind of my feel here.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I jumped on the app last night and went, took
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the under while the number was where it was before
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: we got there.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Did you see they sent us a helmet?
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: The Hard Rock folks?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hard Rock helmet right here. Good looking matte black helmet.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Looks like Northwestern.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Are you guys bringing that one back?
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they sent it to us and said, you guys
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: take it back to the studio, do whatever you want
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: with it. So it's a good looking helmet.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want. I'll eat chips out
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: of it next weekend.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: How about that? That's up to you, Jimmy. Wear it
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: on your date. I don't know who had it on
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: their head last. We're going right ahead.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. The size of it doesn't look
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: like it could fit my head, to be honest with you.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: It's got a filler inside. Yeah.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a speaker. It's a car phone. All right,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: when we come back, Todd Furman will join us. The
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: guys will take a quick break to get a little
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: more shine in them at the Tennessee Shine Company. I'll
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: talk to Todd Furman in Vegas about all the big
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: games in college and the NFL when we continue on
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the next round presented by Hard Rock Bet here on
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Sporting State. Sporting State rolls on, presented by our friends
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: at Hard Rock Bet. I'll tell you more about Hard
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Rock Bet in a moment here on the next round.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: The guys will rejoin us from beautiful Gatlinburg, Tennessee. But
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: right now, from Gatlinburg to the fine folks out in Vegas,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: our man Todd Furman, hat turned around, ready to go
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: with some big picks this weekend. Furman, good morning to you.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: I'm doing well this morning, Dunaway, and I'm not sure
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: you can have two cities that might be more diametrically
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: opposed when you go from Gatlinburg to Las Vegas. I
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: hear Gatlinburg is lovely, but I have never set foot
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: in that fine town myself.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Well, truthfully, the only difference, they both have a crowded strip.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: The only difference, you replace the smell of weed with
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: the smell of pancakes. And other than that, they're exactly
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the same.
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: In all honesty, Dunaway, these days, given what Vegas has become,
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: I will take the smell of pancakes every day of
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: the week and twice on Sundays over the smells that
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: we are treated to out here in the desert.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: It is mind-boggling. I could be on the golf course
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: in the bunker on 11 in Vegas and all of
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: a sudden somewhere. a whiff of marijuana comes floating by.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: It is a.
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: Distinct possibility and it can be somewhat overpowering, especially during
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: the hours of 1.30 in the morning until about 6.30. Unfortunately,
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: I don't really see that side of the coin at
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: this point in my life.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: And then there are some days I'm in Vegas, I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: look down at my hand, and it's coming from me.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: We're not here to judge. Judgment-free zone, my friend. Judgment-free zone.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: All right, let's start with Alabama and Tennessee. I just
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: told the guys before I came to you that I
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: was going to tell you that my play on this game,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: and I bet it last night, is the under. I
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: feel like Alabama, a little hungover from last week, Tennessee's
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback, and Tennessee's ability to slow the
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: game down and want to run it. I'm finding it
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: hard to see a lot of points scored there at
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Natalyn tomorrow. What do you think?
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: So I can't argue the angle with you at all.
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: My only reservation here is that this total has moved
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: quite a bit from where it opened with our friends
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: at Hard Rock Bet. Right around 55.5 at last check,
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: we were hovering around 51.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: And we've blown through a couple of the most.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: Important numbers when you're betting totals in college football. But
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: the move is warranted for just the reasons that you outlined.
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is a Tennessee team right now that's
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: not playing with that breakneck pace we grew accustomed to
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: with Hendon Hooker leading the charge under center. So much
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: of what Tennessee wants to do offensively is predicated on
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: getting Deshaun Bishop going on the ground. And it's a
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: lot of short, controlled passing that's really been devoid of
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: some of those vertical shots that has been a staple
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: of Josh Heupel's offense. And on the flip side of
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: things for Alabama, look, this Tennessee team's strength has been
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: along that defensive line. and if they're able to generate pressure,
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: get Keelan Russell off his spot, going to make things
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: a little bit problematic. I actually debated getting involved in
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: this game to kind of reverse engineer an angle. You
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: can find an Alabama team total hovering right around that
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: 30.5-31 range with our friends at Hard Rock Bet, and
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: that's probably the path that I would take, thinking that
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: if Tennessee is going to stay in this game for
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: four quarters, they're going to need the same caliber of
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: defensive effort that we saw when they came up just
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: short against Texas a few weeks ago.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite phrases you use every week is
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: it's a lay it or don't play it type game.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what you think about Auburn at Georgia,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Georgia number one. We saw them last week in Tuscaloosa,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and Gunnar's so good on third downs in Tuscaloosa. This game,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: we're finding it hard to even paint an Auburn upset
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: picture to win the game outright. How do you break
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: down the Deep South's oldest rivalry?
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to sit here and say that I
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: think Auburn has a chance to do the unthinkable and
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: go into Athens and win this game outright.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: He's nearly a three-touchdown underdog.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: But that being said, I'm not anywhere close to laying
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: the points here with Georgia, knowing what that game last
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: week against Alabama took out of them. Let's not sugarcoat it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: Georgia was the better team in the second half. If
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: we get that pass interference call, though, maybe Alabama is
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: able to get a season-defining win against the Bulldogs. This
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: Georgia team defensively should pose all sorts of problems for Auburn.
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: And an offense that's really lacked pop and some of
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: that big play potential. I don't think just having an
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: extra week to prepare is suddenly going to fix what
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: Alex Golish wants this team to be able to do.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: But the reason that I think Auburn can hang around
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: in this game is defensively, this Auburn defense has been
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: the strength in their calling card all season long. Of course,
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: you do have the crooked numbers that Florida put on
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: them at Jordan-Hare. That's starting to feel a little bit
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: more like an outlier. If it got to 21, I
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: would be more inclined to value bet Auburn. But this
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: is a game that I just don't find a real
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: compelling handicapping angle that I don't feel is truly baked
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: into the current price.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Back to the SEC in a moment. But first, some
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: big games nationally. Ohio State and Indiana, it seems like
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, you wait for this one a long,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: long time in the offseason to get to this because
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: For Indiana, they really haven't played anybody yet. And they
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: struggled but finally rallied in Lincoln. But I see a
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: lot of people that do what you do for a
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: living that still fall in love with Indiana. Layman Jim
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: is sitting here saying this looks so easy for Ohio State.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: So tell me where Layman Jim is wrong.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Well, what I.
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: Can tell you, and that's why I was just checking
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: my odd screen that's out right off camera here, this
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: game has been bet this morning. And the money that's
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: come in has been on the Indiana Hoosiers. So the
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: three and a halves that were widely available, now down
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: to a three hard rock bet, one of the only
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: remaining three and a halves in the market. So if
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: you like the underdog, best spot to bet them will
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: be with our partners there. And when you look at
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: this Ohio State team, what I think is so fascinating
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: about what they've done, They're nine good minutes of football
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: away from having a win over Texas, but there are
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: also some kinks in the armor, and most notably what
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: this Ohio State team hasn't been able to do when
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: it comes to creating explosive runs. There have been none
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: to really speak of, and their strength to schedule isn't
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: exactly elite, You look at the target share and Jeremiah Smith,
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: 66 targets so far this season. The next closest wide
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: receiver on Ohio State has 21. I know Smith had
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: a big game against Indiana in the Big Ten Championship,
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: but we forget that he had a legitimate running mate
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: in Carnell Tate, a top five pick. If you're Kurt Cignetti,
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: I don't think you feel nearly as confident with what
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: you have in the defensive backfield now in 2026 compared
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: to what you had with the national title winning group
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: a season ago. But you only, and I say it facetiously,
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: have to take away one weapon for Ohio State. Jim,
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: it reminds me of when teams used to look for
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: a path to defend Michael Jordan. You either give him
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: his 60 and you take away everything else, or you
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: put all of your defensive resources into neutralizing what Jordan
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: could do and make someone else beat you. And I
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: think Indiana is going to have to figure out creative
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: ways to adopt one of those two strategies. Meanwhile, on
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: the other side for Indiana, they've done a phenomenal job
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: of trying to take Josh Hoover out of his gunslinger
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: mentality that caused so many problems at TCU. They do
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: need to try and get a little bit more going
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: on the ground, but I don't think this Ohio State
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: defense is as close to what we saw last year
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: and who could expect them to perform at that level
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: knowing that they lost so much NFL talent. So I
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: can understand full well why Indiana is getting bet here
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: with the defensive line having a chance to disrupt Julian Sand.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: And while this game does have some variance in terms
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: of the total, I actually like it under at 50.5.
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: I think both these teams are going to struggle to
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: sustain drives, and it does feel like the first team
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: to 24 gets out of Bloomington with a win.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: In the marquee game of the day.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I saw this. David Hale at ESPN wrote this, that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day is 6-8 straight up, not against the spread,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: 6-8 straight up in games that are decided by 11
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: points or fewer. Can you make a case with that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: kind of stat floating around out there or history of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day for Indiana on the money line here? Would
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: you just go ahead and money line Indiana if you
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: believe they're going to keep it close?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think you have to give them a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: coaching edge.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: If it's a tight contest in the final six to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: eight minutes, which sideline do you have more confidence in
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: to get things right? And Kirk Cignetti right now has
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: earned the benefit of the doubt with his ability to
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: win these close games. Of course, we do have the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: matchup two years ago when Indiana burst onto the scene
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: and Ohio State basically blew them out of the water.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: But that was a different talent disparity than what we're
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: going to see tomorrow in Bloomington. And it's always fascinating
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: when you look at a game like this, knowing that
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: if the contest had been played last week, we'd have
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: been looking at Ohio State kind of as a one
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: and a half to two point favorite. But people are
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: left with the lasting image of Indiana really struggling in
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: Lincoln against Nebraska, needing that fourth and one conversion and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: Nick Marsh to give them a little bit of breathing room.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: So it's a little bit of buyer beware, but I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: have to imagine odds makers from here to Curacao are
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: going to find themselves rooting for Indiana to cover and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: potentially win that game outright. So it's never a bad
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: thing to go against Lehman Jim and put yourself on
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: the side.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Of the house. I love that.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Curacao, by the way, there is the bingo word of
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the day. You can mark that one off the bingo card.
• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: it's almost put up or shut up time for Notre
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Dame and Miami a little bit more of an interesting
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: game this week for both of them let's go Notre
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Dame first By far their toughest road venture this year
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: as they go to Provo to play BYU. Injury's a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: factor in this one. Looks like Leonard Moore's going to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: play defensively for Notre Dame, but no L.J. Martin for BYU.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: How big of an impact is that on Bear Bachmeier
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  Speaker 1: and the BYU Cougars offense?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's massive.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: And while I know running backs, at least in the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: National Football League, are somewhat interchangeable at the collegiate level,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: it's hard to overstate the importance of a bell cow
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: back in the form of LJ Martin. And even last
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: year when BYU did have a somewhat healthy LJ Martin
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: dealing with a little bit of an ankle injury, when
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: they stepped up in class and played a defense of
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: the caliber they are going to see tomorrow in the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: form of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish championship, They were
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: blown out of the water, not once but twice, by
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: Texas Tech. And will history repeat itself here? It's tough
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: to go into a game like this without your second-best
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: offensive weapon. I do like what I've seen from Bear
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: Bachmeier and his ongoing development, not just as a runner
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: but as a passer. with some underwhelming weapons on the outside.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, Glasker has to be that difference maker. But
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: I've handicapped this game a number of times, tried to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: find compelling ways to make a case for the underdog,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: and I'm just not sure where BYU goes to be
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: able to generate offense in this contest. Yes, home field
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: advantage is going to be one of the more electric
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: atmospheres that we're going to see, not just on tomorrow's slate,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: but maybe across the college football landscape all season.
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  Speaker 5: But other than that, I mean, can BYU.
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  Speaker 6: Move the football consistently enough to get to, let's say,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: 17 points that it probably takes for them to cover
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: as a 10-point dog? I know Notre Dame doesn't have
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: the dynamic one-two punch in the backfield of a Jeremiah
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: Love or Jadarian Price like they did a season ago,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: but they are starting to figure out who their best
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: back may be, and I think Walton has shown flashes
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: of that. I look at this game here and I
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: almost get the feeling, Jim, that it's dog with fleas
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: for BYU. If Notre Dame can adjust to the elements
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: and atmosphere, I think the Irish can win this game
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: going away. And the other thing, I know it's been
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: the narrative that has surrounded Notre Dame. When you look
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: at their strength to schedule, at least at this point
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: in the year, They've played a much more aggressive schedule
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: of opponents than BYU. The win over Wisconsin continues to
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: age better as the Badgers look more buttoned up with
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: Luke Fickle. The dominant win over Purdue, suddenly you go,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: wait a second, Notre Dame put them in a body
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: bag of Purdue offense that's put up crooked numbers on
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: everybody else. And tell me who BYU's best win is against.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, is it a 17-7 win in a rainstorm
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: against BYU? TCU is in a dominant performance in Fort
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: Collins against a Colorado State team that couldn't stop me, you, Lance,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: and Brownie at this point in our lives that just
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: gave up 60-plus to Texas State. I think BYU's home field,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: we can't understate the importance. It'll be a three-and-a-half to
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: four-point venue, but I think Notre Dame knows what's at stake.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: They make a statement, and they keep that win streak
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: of double-digit victories going in Provo tomorrow night.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: I like the favorites.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Miami at least gets the primetime stage against Florida State.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Great helmet game. But Florida State reminds me, I don't
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: know if you saw it when it was out, Coyote vs. Acme,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: the movie. It does feel like last week that it
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: was the Coyote painting. It was Florida State painting the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: tunnel on the cliff wall. And then Louisville ran through it.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: And then the Coyote went in and ran into the wall,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: and then there was a train coming once he made
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: it into the tunnel, and that train's going to be
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Miami this week. It went south for Florida State, and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: now here comes Miami. Does the Seminoles have anything left
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: in the tank for the Canes?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it was amazing to watch that game last
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: Friday night and see what the one play could do
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: to shatter the fragile psyche around Florida State. Up 14-0,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: a chance to take a three-touchdown lead, get stopped on downs,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: and Louisville rips off a 97-yard run. And it basically
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: was all she wrote for the Florida State Seminoles. Louisville
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: from that point forward ran away and hid. This Florida
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: State team is built around the ground game. It's Croma
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: in the backfield and Ashton Daniels. There's not much to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: speak of when it comes to a vertical passing game.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: So if they find themselves down in this contest, I'm
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: not sure where they go to try and generate yards
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: and more importantly points. Miami going to be a little
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: bit healthier in this game coming out of the bye,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: especially in the defensive backfield than where they were going
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: into it. And I think Miami is going to have
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: plenty of success offensively. One thing, though, before you get
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: involved in this game, do check the weather forecast because
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: there is a chance that we could see 25 to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: 30 mile an hour sustained winds. And if that does
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: come to fruition, it makes it a lot more difficult
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: for the favorite that's being asked to win by margin,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: knowing how good. Darian Mensah has been getting the ball
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: to Cooper Barkey, getting the ball.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: To Malachi Toney.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: So that would be the only thing keeping me off Miami,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: all running away and hiding. And Jim, to use your
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: favorite phrase, no doubt the definition of a lay it
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: or don't play it type scenario in this historic rivalry.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Good thing is short passes to Malachi Toney in that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: win turn into sometimes big gains because of his run
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: after catch ability there. One other game before we jump
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: back into the SEC, actually two more. Wisconsin and UCLA,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated because of what you said about Wisconsin first
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: half against Notre Dame. That was a tough game. I
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: love this Wisconsin team, and it seems like everybody is
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: throwing Bob Chesney flowers. This feels like Wisconsin coming to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: town to put it on UCLA. How do you feel
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: about that one?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: I agree with you.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: I think Wisconsin wins this game outright. I'm anxiously awaiting
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: a three if it pops in the market. If it doesn't,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: I'll probably get involved with a Moneyline price tag right
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: around that plus $ 1. 15, plus $ 1. 20 to add to a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: position that I took earlier in the week with the Badgers,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: plus $ 3. 50. Bob Chesney does really deserve the flowers and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: what he's been able to do in a short amount
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: of time in Westwood. Unfortunately, UCLA going to look a
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: little bit different offensively with no Nico. You now have
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: a Cal Poly transfer under center and Ty Dieffenbach who
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: put together nine touchdowns to nine interceptions a season ago
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: with the Mustangs there. And my biggest concern for UCLA
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: is are they out of gas? You can now get
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: a rested Wisconsin team traveling across the country and UCLA
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: was able to force not one, not two, not three,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: not four, not five, not six, but seven turnovers last
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: week against Oregon and still only manufactured 17 points in
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: that particular contest. Look, Wisconsin's not going to blow you
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: away with an NFL caliber ground game like we've seen,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: you know, in years past with the likes of Ron
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: Dane or Jonathan Taylor. But I do think Wisconsin can
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: do enough to make UCLA one dimensional. If Colton Joseph
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: can avoid those turnover worthy throws, I look for Wisconsin
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: to go out there and, you know, have a big day.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: I just wonder, Jim, how many Badger.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: Fans decided to get out there a couple of days
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: early and Take in the Brewers game for sweep of
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: the L.A. Dodgers and parlay that into a little Saturday
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: afternoon into evening at the Rose Bowl. I actually think
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: you're going to have a lot more Badger fans in
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: the building and you're going to feel to a certain
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: extent like it's Camp Randall West because everybody wants to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: escape some of that Midwestern weather this year for a
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: weekend afternoon in Southern California.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: There were a big group of Brewers fans there at
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium yesterday celebrating. So to your point, it may
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: be a twofer. weekend for the Badgers and the folks
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: from Wisconsin uh for that battle back to the sec
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: we go and a little nfl before firman gets out
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: of here uh but in the sec in prime time
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: kentucky speaking of getting flowers will stein's team going for
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: two back-to-back weeks weeks and winning by identical scores uh
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: now they are on the road at oklahoma And Oklahoma,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: both these teams coming off of top 10 upsets last week.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about the Sooners? Do they have
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: enough to beat the Cats at home?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, you mentioned Coach Chesney. I'll put Will Stein
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: up there right now.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: If we were giving out a coach of the year
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: through the first six, seven weeks of the season, I mean,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: these two would be neck and neck. You look at
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: what Will Stein has been able to accomplish. You know,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: going into College Station, knocking off A & M as
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: a 17-point underdog. following that up with a narrow victory
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: on the road in Columbia, 35-34, and probably the coup
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: de grace last week upsetting LSU as more than a
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: touchdown underdog by that exact same scoreline in walk-off fashion
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: two weeks in a row.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: Jim, I really wonder.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: What Kentucky could possibly have left in the tank for
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: this particular game, going on the road to Norman to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: take on Oklahoma. Now, the situation's not ideal for Oklahoma
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: because you look at the box score and the way
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: things needed to unfold in Dallas last week, probably not
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: a repeatable situation against Texas. And I believe Bill Connolly
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: had Oklahoma's upset of Texas as the most unlikely outcome
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: that we have seen thus far in college football. But
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: the one thing I will say about the Sooners, John
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: Mateer looked to feel a little bit more comfortable late
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: in that game. And I think he's going to find
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: the opportunity against this Kentucky defense to get a couple
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: of big plays in the passing attack. Oklahoma has been battle-tested.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: You look at some of the defenses they faced already
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: this year. It's Georgia on the road. It's Michigan on
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: the road. It's Texas in a neutral venue. This might
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: be where the exhale can come in. And while it's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: always a little bit scary defensively, looking for an Oklahoma
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: team to win by margin. I make the Sooners an
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: eight-point favorite. I think this is a good opportunity to
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: sell some of that Kentucky stock. I like Oklahoma to
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: win this game by 10 plus.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: A number of SEC fans find Texas a team you
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: cheer against a lot. For some reason, there's a lot
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: of Texas hate in the league. A lot of people
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: will be cheering for Florida and Austin, both of these
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: teams coming off disappointing losses. What do you got here?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: I think that if Texas' offense doesn't show signs of
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: life this week against the current Gators defense, then it's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: even more time to panic for Arch Manning and what
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: we're not seeing from the Burt Orange to start the season.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: On the other side, I don't know where Florida goes
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: to consistently move the football. Honestly, I'm not sure who's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: going to start under center. if it'll be Aaron Filo again,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: if we're going to see Trammell Jones. But either way,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: I just don't think Florida is built to move the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: football through the air against Texas. We've seen over the
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: last couple of weeks that the blueprint is out for
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: how you slow down this group of Gators. You put
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: eight in the box, you tell Jaden Ball that he's
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: not going to be able to run wild, and Florida
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: just can't do nearly enough in the passing attack. I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: think Texas, despite laying a big number here, it's the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: only way to look in this game. They're going to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: find some big plays. Florida doesn't really have an answer
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: for Cam Coleman. I'm not sure they're going to be
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: able to stop the run effectively. But I will say,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: when you look at some of the recruiting rankings, you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: better get at Florida now because this is a Gators
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: team that is going to be on a rapid ascent
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: towards the top of the league. And as someone who
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: bet Florida under 7.5, who thought that ticket was dead
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: in the water before the season, or I should say
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: when they beat Ole Miss 52-28.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: I now suddenly have life done away.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: If Texas and Georgia can beat the Gators, I'll just
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: need one Gator defeat in the final four weeks. But
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be selling that Gator stock long term. I'm
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: just not buying it this week for the trip to Austin.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: All right, Furman, quickly to the NFL. On my sheet,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: I've got just two games that have teams with winning
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: records playing each other. One of those is Ravens and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Browns in Cleveland. Is there a path to the Browns
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: to win this game and take over a a part
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: of first place in that division?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: I don't want to make a case for the Browns here,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: even working under the assumption that it will be Snoop
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: Hundley getting the nod under center for the second straight
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: week for the Baltimore Ravens. You look at the injury
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: report for Cleveland, they are banged up along the offensive line.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: They are banged up along the defensive line. We're not
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: sure if Casey Concepcion is going to clear concussion protocol.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: Denzel Boston made an appearance on the injured list. I'm
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: not going to clamor for the Ravens essentially on a
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: short week having played a five-quarter fight last week against
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: the Atlanta Falcons being.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: The side in this game.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: But I think this Browns honeymoon phase of the Deshaun
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: Watson experience is over. So I really want no part
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: of the home underdog. But to your point, one of
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: the de facto marquee games pitting a pair of teams
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: with winning records, I just didn't think this would be
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: one of them that was going to be worthy of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: some of the central focus. But I think Cleveland offensively
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: really struggles to move the ball against the Ravens defense
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: that's getting better each week under Jesse Minter's leadership.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Bills and Raiders, the other one there in Vegas. Caleb
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Williams looks like he's returning. I don't know what you're hearing.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear what you're hearing and the impact
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: that has on the Falcons-Bears game.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: I would put his return at about an 80 to 85%
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: probability here. I don't think the Bears allow him to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: go to the podium and take questions from the media
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: if they were going to keep him out for another week.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: Although I feel some of this was accelerated by Tyson
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: Bajan's poor performance last week against the Packers because the
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: Bears will be on a short week next Thursday against
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: the New England Patriots. So it's going to be interesting
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: to see what they can do if it means Caleb
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: Williams has to stay in the pocket and and can't
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: make some of those off-platform, off-schedule throws that has made
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: him such a valuable asset for what Chicago wants to do.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: And the problem for the Bears right now is they're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: banged up the running back position. No Kyle Monunga for
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: the second straight week. DeAndre Swift, I believe, will give
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: it a go from the people I've talked around that organization,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: but nowhere close to 100%. And on the flip side
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: of things, the Falcons were able to dodge a proverbial bullet.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, there was real talk when Tua Tagovailoa had
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: to finish the game on Sunday Night Football that Tua
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: might be getting the start. but Michael Penix logs a
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: full for Wednesday's practice. I think this Bears defense was
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: a little bit of a fraud when you look at
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: their performances against the Jets, the Vikings, and the Philadelphia
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: Eagles in three straight weeks. They were exposed last week,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: and I think the Falcons can do the same. The
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: hard part here is that you had a chance to
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: grab the Falcons earlier this week as a three-point home underdog.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: We're now looking at them catching one, one and a half.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: Hard Rock Bet, some of the best teaser prices out there.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: I would use a six-point teaser, get them through the three,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: the four, the six, and the seven, and maybe tease
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: them with the Dallas Cowboys.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: In the Sunday nighter as well.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, I like that a lot. By the way, Daniel
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: says Bears defense banged up too, so Bijan may go
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: for 300 yards rushing in that game. Hey, you always
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: give us an off-the-radar pick. Where are you going this week? College, NFL?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Give me the play.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: One of the off-the-radar games I didn't think you were
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: going to hit on was Wisconsin-UCLA. So that was kind
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: of the direction that I was going to trend.
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  Speaker 5: But you know what? Let's do things a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 6: And I try and scroll through and see what numbers
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  Speaker 6: to the ACC, and I know there's been a little
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  Speaker 6: game this morning. I'm going to lay the points here
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  Speaker 6: with Virginia Tech and that 8.5-9 range against Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 6: This is a Yellow Jackets group that's banged up. I
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  Speaker 6: think James Franklin wasn't as good as what the team
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  Speaker 6: Vatek should be able to hit some explosions both on
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  Speaker 6: Tech laying the 9 against Georgia Tech for our off-the-radar
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  Speaker 1: I know you're always concerned if we're on the same page.
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  Speaker 1: before LT tells us about Clay Travis Law. Guys, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: beef going on now between Buck and Aikman in the
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  Speaker 1: broadcast booth. And there's talk of maybe this being the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year. I'll give you the details, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to let you listen first. to this interview
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  Speaker 1: from Troy Aikman yesterday on the ticket in Dallas. Here
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  Speaker 1: is Troy Aikman getting asked about a potential rift going
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  Speaker 1: on now between his partner of 25 years, Joe Buck,
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  Speaker 1: and then, of course, the possibility of him not being
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  Speaker 1: back at ESPN. Listen in.
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  Speaker 10: You've been in the headlines the last couple of days,
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  Speaker 10: so we thought we would start here. You and Joe
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  Speaker 10: have been just an incredible broadcast team for 25 years.
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  Speaker 10: And it's been made public that Joe has a new
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  Speaker 10: deal with ESPN and you don't. And there's been some
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  Speaker 10: stories the last couple of days that that's now causing
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  Speaker 10: tension between you two. We just wanted to get your
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  Speaker 10: perspective on this. And are these reports true?
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  Speaker 2: And what's going on?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think there's probably a time and a place
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  Speaker 7: for all that to be discussed. I don't know if
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  Speaker 7: now's the time. I don't know that it's hard to
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  Speaker 7: figure out kind of what's happened, but I'll broadcast through
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: this season and I'll be a free agent at the
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  Speaker 7: end of the year and kind of see what happens.
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  Speaker 7: But I'm looking forward to whatever the rest of this
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  Speaker 7: year does hold and with the Super Bowl and all
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  Speaker 7: that and where my next landing spot might be.
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  Speaker 1: That's Troy Aikman yesterday not pulling any punches. That deal,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, $ 108 million through 2031 for Buck, and
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  Speaker 1: ESPN has been slow in pursuing Aikman on their new deal.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you guys know I'm not the biggest Buck fan.
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  Speaker 3: I think he does a really good job on play-by-play,
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  Speaker 3: but I do think the more important piece is Troy
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  Speaker 3: Aikman because I think Troy Aikman is the best football
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  Speaker 3: analyst in the game.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. And, look, we know this.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, you– you know, work with people for
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: years and years and years, there becomes tension. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for them to not give Aikman a deal and to
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  Speaker 3: give Buck that massive deal, boy, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And you could tell, not happy about it at all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my next landing spot would be a key phrase in there, Dunaway.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: And you've got to think, right, with Tony Romo out
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: at CBS, I don't know how they feel about J.J. Watt,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: how well he's done, but you've got to wonder, is
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: CBS a suitor for Troy Aikman?
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  Speaker 1: I would say NBC, too. I'd say NBC, too.
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  Speaker 2: So you think Collinsworth might retire? Is that what you're suggesting?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: He's been doing it a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Would you think this would bode well for our
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: buddy Dan Orlovsky? Like, if he left, is that the
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: obvious replacement for Eggman in the booth with Joe Buck?
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  Speaker 1: I hope so. I mean, I like Orlovsky, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I love Dan.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to see Buck doing it with anybody other
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  Speaker 1: than Aikman. And I'm with you guys. I like Buck.
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  Speaker 1: I like what he does. But part of the reason
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  Speaker 1: I like Buck is because of Troy Aikman and how
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  Speaker 1: it's an easy listen with both of them. It's just comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: They don't get into it too much.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. But what a disaster. They have finally gotten
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. At ABC-ESPN. ABC had it years ago,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: but ESPN-ABC, they finally got back to the Super Bowl mix,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: and this is what you've got. You've got your team,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: your broadcast team, breaking up.
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  Speaker 3: And it is the best broadcast team in football, as
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: good as Herbstreet and Fowler are, and we talk about
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: our buddy Greg McIlroy and what he's able to do
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: with Sean McDonough, but this is.
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  Speaker 2: the top of the top.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I don't believe Joe Buck is going
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  Speaker 3: to win the PR battle here because he's a very
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  Speaker 3: pretentious guy. And he's getting the $ 108 million. And I
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  Speaker 3: think football fans don't want to see Aikman out of
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  Speaker 3: that situation.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I don't blame Buck for taking the money.
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  Speaker 2: It seems done away. I guess Aikman's issue is they
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  Speaker 2: didn't do it as a team that Buck went ahead
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  Speaker 2: and bit and left him holding the bag, essentially. Or
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  Speaker 2: it could be Buck told ESPN, ABC, hey, look, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to work with the guy anymore. That's possible, too,
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's more what you were saying, that Joe
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  Speaker 1: went on and took the deal and didn't leave it
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  Speaker 1: out there. Hey, let's negotiate this together. We'll both be
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  Speaker 1: free agents. We'll stay together. If ESPN doesn't give us
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: both what we want, they will both hit the road again,
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  Speaker 1: and they would be suitors all over the place for them.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, apparently they had not talked about it,
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  Speaker 1: Buck and Aikman together until Buck brought it up to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of the, quote, according to insiders, the elephant
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  Speaker 1: in the room in the press box at SoFi before
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: the Bills and Rams game. And that's when Buck brought
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: it up way before they were on the air, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: And it turned into those insiders saying it was a heated, loud,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: verbal argument between the two in the booth that calmed
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  Speaker 1: down just moments before the light went on for the broadcast.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take Troy Aikman minus the 10,000 odds there. You're
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: going to lay those points. Yeah, this is Mike Tyson
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: against Joe Glass.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that they turned around and actually broadcast
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: that great Bills-Rams game with nobody knowing at home shows
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  Speaker 1: you what pros they are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I have not been able to tell anything.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: I was shocked when I saw it earlier this week.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: And now what's going to be more interesting, what game
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: do they have this weekend?
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  Speaker 2: Um, I can't remember who the Monday night game is. It's,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: is it green Bay? No, that's Sunday. That's Sunday night. Yeah.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know who they have.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: I can look anyway. That's a must see now. Well,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, now that you know, right. I mean, it,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: we've got half a year to go and then the
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: playoffs and then they're doing the super bowl. Now that
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: you know, this is a story. I mean, people are
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: going to be watching just to see if they can
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: hear conflict. Right. Um, And I guess for ESPN, they're watching.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: My shock in all this, I just don't understand why
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: ESPN will let Eggman walk. I mean. I understand. And maybe, yeah,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: maybe you look at it, Jim, and you're like, well,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: CBS let, you know, they punted Romo and have their
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: ratings dropped any? It's about the games. But I don't know, man.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: You just seem like you haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 3: And it shows you the social media influence because McAfee
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: and Stephen A. Smith can't touch Troy Eggman. And they're
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  Speaker 3: paying those guys a fortune. And there's a reason they're
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  Speaker 3: paying them a fortune.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to do our way too early headlines. before
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  Speaker 2: All right. I am going to go to the Longhorn Longform.
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  Speaker 2: the reason for Arch Manning's struggles is linked to a
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  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: He likes older women? He likes older women, and Yoko
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go with Madison Beer, Brownie.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no. He likes the older women. He's got
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  Speaker 2: Yoko Ono.
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  Speaker 3: This does make sense. I mean, she definitely pulled the Beatles.
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  Speaker 3: If you can break up the Beatles.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. She's broke up Texas football now. Page two,
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  Speaker 2: Birmingham man is going to release results of his new
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  Speaker 2: pancake-only diet after a Gatlinburg visit. Lance loves pancake. All
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, side note on that before you get to your
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  Speaker 3: other side headline. Our buddy Richard Holland here said that
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  Speaker 2: Pancake Pantry. Yeah, pancake.
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  Speaker 3: He said 70 deep, done away in line. And there
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  Speaker 2: It's okay. A lot going on here. Travel, I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Here's mine this week. It's from the field of 12
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  Speaker 1: My first headline, Sark seeks Otani's advice on managing expensive payrolls.
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  Speaker 2: That is pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: They're getting the same results, aren't they? A picture there
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  Speaker 1: on managing expensive payroll. Texas coach turns to baseball star
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  Speaker 1: for financial wisdom. Second headline. Georgia becomes the first state
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  Speaker 1: to celebrate no flag day.
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  Speaker 2: It worked out. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: They turned the Alabama rejection into a holiday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, running through them. That commercial, I mean, that photo
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  Speaker 2: is not AI, right? Or is that AI? That is
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: not AI.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they cleaned it up. I did not ask them
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  Speaker 1: to clean it up. That's a screenshot I took. But
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  Speaker 1: you can tell I think they threw some kind of
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  Speaker 1: logo on the Alabama helmet there, as AI tends to do.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally, the third headline, DeBoer replaces Saban again.
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  Speaker 1: He'll now be the one yelling at Aflac in the commercials.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder how many, I mean, obviously Saban is the
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  Speaker 3: maybe most recognizable face in the history of college football.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think anybody would recognize DeBoer? Yeah, like if
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  Speaker 2: he did the Athlete commercial, it's him in prime. Who's
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  Speaker 2: this guy? College football fans would, but I just wonder
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  Speaker 2: your marginal fan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just interesting there is Kalen DeBoer's intensity as starting
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  Speaker 1: to win over more and more and more. of the
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  Speaker 1: Alabama fans. But tomorrow's a big game for him. Alabama
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  Speaker 1: and Tennessee in the chat room, a number of Alabama
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: fans giving reason why they're concerned about the game. One
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: of those being the fact that I think Terrence Green
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: is either out or questionable. Another being the fact that
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Del Gotti is doubtful for the game. So the injuries
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  Speaker 1: for Alabama have some Bama fans concerned there as they
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  Speaker 1: head to Neyland Stadium this weekend. We'll give the guys
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  Speaker 1: in college football here on Sporting State. My buddy Jace,
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  Speaker 1: he's singing my tune in the chat room there. He
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  Speaker 1: and his beautiful wife Molly talking about going to Gatlinburg.
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  Speaker 1: He says a little apple butter, a little jacuzzi, good
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  Speaker 1: times had by all.
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  Speaker 2: I love apple butter. Apple butter on a biscuit is tremendous. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Does your cabin, does y'all's cabin have a jacuzzi?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we got there late last night after the sunset,
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  Speaker 2: and we left this morning before sunrise. So I haven't
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: really been able to scope the outside. Do you know, Lance,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: do we have a hot tub? I know we do,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: but I haven't seen it yet. I will tell you,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: when we got back, I'm one of those weirdos, Donnelly.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: I've got to unpack everything, so we got in kind
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: of late. But I made sure I unpacked everything.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: I poured me a bourbon, and I sat out and just–
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: Our view, it might be the best in Gatlinburg. That's
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: kind of a high bar, but Richard Holland, our host here,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: put us in the most amazing house. It has almost
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: made my decision 100% that I will not see Knoxville
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: Because that house setup is so good. It's a great
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: place to watch a Saturday of football. There's no doubt.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: But there is definitely a hot tub. Is it working?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: Is it operational?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: What's been in that hot tub? I mean, based on
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: the place, it's probably pretty clean. I wouldn't drink a
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: glass of water out of it.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: Probably no. Is there a fundamental difference, Jim, between a
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: jacuzzi and a hot tub? You used the phrase jacuzzi.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Are those one and the same?
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: I was reading exactly what Jace had written there. So
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know the difference.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know the difference. I assume a jacuzzi has
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: more jet streams going than a hot tub does.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't have no idea. Yeah, I don't know. I
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: just I grew up. I grew up in Calhoun County.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: I certainly don't know.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: The last time that I was at a place that
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: had had a hot tub, I think it was Indianapolis
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: when we were all verboing in the ice cold of Indianapolis.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 7: So.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's the last time.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: That place had a hot tub. I did dip my
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: toe in that one.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: You did.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, here you go. I think you can get a
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: heart-shaped hot tub here in Gatlinburg, Jim. If you and
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Maggie want to come back up here later on, I
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: believe they've got heart-shaped ones. Okay.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: You guys still sound good. Your picture has frozen, but
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: you still sound fantastic, so we'll stick with you. What
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: do you have for us, sir?
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Did we lose Dunaway? Did we lose the feed? I
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: guess we did.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: The answer to your question, all jacuzzis are hot tubs,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: but not all hot tubs are jacuzzis.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: Because a jacuzzi is a type. All right. Say that again.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: All jacuzzis are hot tubs, but not all hot tubs
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: are jacuzzis.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: A little up there.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Hey, Dunaway, you'll love this.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: When we were watching the Brewers fans celebrate, I turn
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: around and I'm talking fresh off the altar.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Dude still had his tux on.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: She had her wedding dress with the train behind it
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: dragging across the floor of this sports bar.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: They nestle up to a table. The shot girl comes over.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: They start doing jello shots.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: Literally done away straight from the ceremony. He is in
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: a tux. She's in a wedding dress and a sports
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: bar in Gatlinburg.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: And I got to be honest, like this is going
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: to sound really shallow. They look like a normal couple.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, they did. Yeah.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: Brownie, tell us about XXXY, and we'll talk a little
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: football here before we get to the top of the hour.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jennifer Say, she's a national champion gymnast, former brand
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: manager at Levi's, and rather than say something she didn't
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: believe in, she started her own brand, XXXY Athletics. Walked
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: away from that corporate job, did that. The mission, in
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: their words, empower female athletes to take a stand for
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: fair competition. They call it the T that launched a movement.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: It's real athletic apparel, not just a slogan on a shirt.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: It's performance tops, tanks, sports bras, leggings, shorts, training sets, hoodies, hats,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: graphic tees, men's and women's clothing as well. Worn by
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: athletes who've actually put something on the line. XXXYAthletics.com. That
• 1:34:02
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• 1:34:07
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• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Jace is Jace, former caller, now poster in the chat room.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: He has an interesting part of our history with the
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: show now going on 18 years.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: Jace was the guy who used to call us up.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: And we had interns, sometimes young college interns that would
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: screen calls. And Jace is probably the only listener slash
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: viewer that ever dated our interns.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: So he's got that history of the show. He comes
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: up to all of our remotes. In the chat room,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Jay says, full disclosure, Dunaway, that wasn't Molly that was
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: with me in Gatlinburg. That was pre-Molly, his wife. He says,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: interesting twist, though. That happened 10 years before I met Molly.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: Turns out the girl I was with then was Molly's cousin. Meredith,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: very sweet girl. Shout out Shelton State women's soccer team.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Jay's one of the more interesting dating trees of all time,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I would love to see how extended Thanksgiving is.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: Jace says in the chat he can do a segment
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: next hour if you want.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: I think we're good right now, Jace. I don't want
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: to get you into any trouble because if I put
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: you on the witness stands, that opens you up to
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: questioning from the cross-examination from Lance, and that could get
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: you into trouble. So we'll keep you off the witness
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: stand there. We just love your comments in the chat room.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: All right, here's games to talk about.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Lance. No, no, no.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: I was just saying what they're preparing here in the
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: next hour, you're going to die done away.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: This is going to be quite the task.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: The last time I did one of these tasks was
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: at the Floribama when you and I had a side
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: wager on if I could have more drinks in a
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: day than Alabama had pass attempts.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: Well, T's ahead for us right now. So what's coming
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: up in the second half of the next round?
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is probably not wise, but I have
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: taken on the challenge. I am going to try to
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: go around the world and do a shot of every
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: one of their varieties of moonshine.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what the chat room's been cheering for all morning.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure of my demise. Everybody that wants
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: me dead, this could be the opportunity.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, help us out here. The Tennessee Shine Company,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: you see the big sign behind us there in downtown Gatlinburg.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: A shot of shine, compare that to a shot of
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: some other liquor. I mean, how potent is a shot
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: of shine?
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: What is the ABV on this? What's proof? Is it
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: like 40? 35 to 55.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: So, you know, I don't know. Three is probably the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: equivalent to one.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: So, Dunaway. I mean, they're small shots. The grand finale
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: is going to be the panty dropper. Lance is going
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: to drop his panties at the end of the show.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: Everybody needs to stick around.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you thought Dirk Diggler with the prosthetic we
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: talked about yesterday was something, just wait.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Wow, humble brag. Tennessee Shine Company there. We'll see what
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: meat has to do a little bit later on in
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: the show. Meanwhile, Ole Miss is swinging a big stick
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: over in Oxford these days. Here's Pete Golding on battling
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: the former Ole Miss quarterback Austin Simmons and his familiarity
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: with the Rebels defense.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: You know, I think the big deal in every week
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: is how do you make the same things look different
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: and different things look the same. And so, like, you
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: want to make quarterbacks play after they get the ball.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: In their hand.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: And you want to think, hey, this is what I
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: think it is. This is what coaches told me all week.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: And this is where I'm supposed to go with the ball. Oh, shit,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: it's not that. And then there's the indecision component of it.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: You know, so obviously week in and week out, you've
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: shown certain things on tape, right, that, you know, this
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: is what they're watching.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: This is what they're expecting. All right. All right.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: How can we show that? And then now what's the
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: compliment to it based on what they're going to do?
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: So that's the battle you play every week. That's the
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: chess match that I love. Does that make sense? So
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: there are several things that you're going to make it
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: look like. We did this in week three. We did
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: this in week four. It's going to look the same.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: It's not the same. But I think that's every week.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: That's not specific to Austin Simmons. I think that's conceptually
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: week in and week out.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: See, of all the games, and I hate to say this,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: I know Notre Dame, BYU, Ohio State, Indiana. Ohio State
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: and Indiana I'm all in on, and of course the
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: local SEC games. But this Missouri Ole Miss game out
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: of the SEC, for some reason, Has me tremendously on
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: the edge of my seat wanting to see who Missouri
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: is and who Ole Miss is, Brown.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I would agree. And again, there are two games
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: nationally I think you could say may be the best
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: quarterback matchup in the nation. One of them is Oklahoma
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: State-Drew Mestermaker against Houston. And Connor Wegman. And Connor Wegman.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: But I think this one, this one might be better
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: than that. You could argue that this with Austin Simmons
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: versus Trinidad Chambliss is the best quarterback matchup we'll get
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: on what is a great weekend of college football.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: Well, when you look at the talent evaluators out there,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: we talk about some of the draft projections. Both of
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: these guys, Austin Simmons and Trinidad Chambliss, the way they're
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: playing are projected top 15 guys overall.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: Mestermaker is in that top 15, maybe the first quarterback
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: taken off the board. Nobody's talking about Wegman yet. I
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: think he might end up creeping up there. We'll see
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: in a big matchup, but I agree with you guys.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: The way Austin Simmons is playing right now, and he's
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: going to come into this game playing with the chip
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: on his shoulder, and you look at Missouri, the last
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: two opponents, they have absolutely dusted them, outscoring those opponents
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: 72 to 23, and not bad opponents. Florida, when they
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: were on a heater, and then last week against A & M,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: Missouri has gotten dominant. And they've got, you know, not
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: only Austin Simmons, but Jamal Roberts leading the SEC in rushing.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: And then Caden Lee has turned into a true weapon,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: one of the best wide receivers. And I think if
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: you had your all SEC first team right now, Caden
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: Lee would be on that.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Interesting comment here from Jay Bank. He says, enough of
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: those shots, LT. You're going to pull a Sidney Sweeney
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: and only be wearing the Hard Rock helmet by the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: end of the show.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh. You've got to hold it. I don't know.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: You might be able to get away with that in Gatlinburg.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: It's Lance. This is how you hold it. I've seen
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: the commercial. You've got to hold it like that right there.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: You've got to press them together there, squeeze them inside
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: the helmet there.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Oops. Maybe drop my iPad doing that. That'll be interesting.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: All right, LT, I've got to ask you about two
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: other games, Notre Dame and Miami. I guess Notre Dame
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: is a little bit more challenging, but because of their schedule,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: they haven't really been on the main stage yet. They
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: play later in November. Is this the start of the
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: time to shine for Notre Dame and Miami, both of
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: them in prime time tonight? Is this time for the
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: Irish and the Canes to shine?
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: You know, for Miami, I don't think it really matters.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: We've seen how bad this Florida State defense is. They've
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: lost 10 consecutive road games. They are 10 and 20
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: since the ACC championship game that they won with a
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: backup quarterback against Louisville.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: So not a great product.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: Miami probably could name their score, and I would not
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: be surprised if they go out there and try to
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: name their score. But on the other side, I do
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: think Notre Dame, this is the first big test. And
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: the one thing that we wanted to know, is Notre
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: Dame going to be able to run the football once
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: you lost, oh.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: My gosh, why am I forgetting? Jeremiah Love.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Price. And the answer is yes,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: over 600 rushing yards their last couple of games. Jonas Walton,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: the true freshman, has gone over 300 over the last
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: couple of games. So Notre Dame effectively running the football.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: On the other side, we've talked about this in depth,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: no L.J. Martin for BYU. All the pressure is on
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: Bear Bachmeier. This will be maybe the biggest game in
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: the history of that stadium. It's the first ever top
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: ten matchup. That's crazy to think. I mean, BYU's had
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: a pretty good football history. And I know they spent
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of time as an independent. They haven't always
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: been in a power conference. But to think this is
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: the first top 10 matchup they've ever hosted there, Jim,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: kind of surprises me. And I don't know if you
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: guys believe this. I really personally believe this is the
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: best stretch of BYU football. Now, they had Heisman Trophy
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: winners and they won a national championship at 84. But
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: the competition, not even close to what they've been playing recently.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: And they're 28-4 over their last 32 games. And Kalani Stock,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: he's done an incredible job. But I think this is
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: a little too much for BYU. They're 5-0 against the number.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: I might even be circling this on the old pick
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: three coming up in a little bit. But I like
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame minus the points in this spot.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Me too. Me too. I'm all in on Notre Dame.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe even into a blowout situation. From the chat room,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: everyone seems now, LT, to be you doing a later tonight,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: your Lance's Locked show. From the hot tub after all
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: your shots of Tennessee shine.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Brown, would you be up to maybe hosting, helping
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: host me on that?
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe possibly. Probably.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: From the hot tub. We'll see what the look is going. And, yeah,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: we'll get wild tonight. We'll get wild in Gatlinburg.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Lance in the hot tub doing the Lance's
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: like show, Jim. It'll be like Coach Brown, Jason Brown. Yeah,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Jason Brown. Is that what the audience is asking for, Jim?
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: Troy says, LT hot tub live stream loading now. You
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: already done this, Royal Payne says. You guys did the
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: Uber stream. You hosted that, Brownie. Why not do this? Now,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Forrester just was pointing out to me and Brooks on
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: the back row that you will not have AI to
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: make your muscles look correct, so you may want to
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: keep shirt on.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm going to sit outside the hot tub. I
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: think that's the play there. Number one, I don't have
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: swim trunks. I brought two pairs. You brought two pairs.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to wear any more. Who cares?
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you boys are in Gatlinburg. You don't need swim
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: trunks for the hot tub. It's a private cabin.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: I just cut my jeans off right there, right? Is
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: that what I do?
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: You saw the movie Free Willy. I don't want to
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: skip ahead to the viewer menu, but Free Willy, man.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: If you– the history of this hot tub, do you
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: think more people have been– In with a bathing suit
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: or in without a bathing suit?
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: In without. Without. Without. Yeah, without.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Dean, if this was Family Feud, straight family tree feud
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: at Gatlinburg, it would be without hot tub.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm watching them pour their shots. If
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: I end up, and I haven't thrown up since the
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: first 26 of 2009, but if I do throw up,
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  Speaker 3: it will look like Disney World with all these colors.
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  Speaker 1: Tell them to reload one. Do one shot here before
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  Speaker 1: we get going, before we end this part of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Can I have one of those? I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: throw up your rhythm, Mary, but if I could have
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  Speaker 2: one shot. Can we have one before we go here
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  Speaker 2: on this show? Mary's going to bring us home. What
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  Speaker 2: do we got here, Mary? Now, these are communion shots. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, again, these are like one ounce. Oh, this
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  Speaker 2: is the big orange. Hey, so, Dunaway, do you like
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  Speaker 2: the old push-up, Jim?
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  Speaker 1: I love the push-up, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what this tastes like, the old push-up.
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  Speaker 1: I've had that flavor before. We need bigger shots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, these are like. I mean, I'm about to do
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: 50 of them. They're going to be big when you
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: put them all together.
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  Speaker 3: This is like, this is about half a shot. What
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  Speaker 3: do you think this is, Richard? An ounce, ounce and
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  Speaker 3: a half?
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  Speaker 2: A third. What do you think? It tastes like a push-up.
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  Speaker 2: Tastes like a push-up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not dangerous at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's a good LEC. Yeah, my buddy Scott Banks
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: is a liquor rep in Denver.
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  Speaker 3: He said, look, because he does business with these guys
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: at Tennessee Shine, he said you better drink water in
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: between because I made the mistake of not drinking water,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: and I woke up two days later feeling like, holy hell.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of my favorite pictures, now I think it
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: was actually after surgery or Not after a night of drinking.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite pictures that rolled through our commercial
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  Speaker 1: breaks is you spread Eagle on the bed in just
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: your underwear. And you look dead.
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  Speaker 3: That was a New York trip where I missed my flight.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of things were going on. That
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: was a long Monday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a post-surgical experience. We'll get post-surgery-esque
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: with LT coming up in our next two hours, the
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: second half of the next round. We talked very little
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: college football games in that two hours right there with
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: you guys. So these guys are loaded with a lot
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: of hot takes of college football, including our pick three
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: still to go. You can go play that at nextroundlive.com,
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  Speaker 1: at nextroundlive.com. We'll tell you more about that. Buck and
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  Speaker 1: Clay are up next. We've got two more hours live
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: on our platform, but come back after you watch Buck
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: and Clay and pick us up on our platform at
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: next round live.