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RHOSLC: "Bad Mormon, Good Greek" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama Darling. Drama Darling, Drama Darling. Good day, Darlings, it's
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drama Darling. I mean the Phillips were here for another show. And guess
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who's with me? It's Emily Deesis hello you. I'm going to turn your
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microphone up. I had it lower. Listen, Emily, you and I
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are jumping in. And if you're watching this, you will see right away
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that we have opposites clothing on opposites, and that is very much Mormon influence.
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This is I have my Bad Mormon sweatshirt on that was gifted to me
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upon the receipt of one Heather Gay's book Bad Mormon. I have a sweatshirt
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to prove it, and controversially, wearing this now opposite Emily happens to be
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wearing something that is what Emily, could you tell us a little bit about
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your office? Well, from from the breasts up, I look like I'm
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wearing Mormon undergarments, accidentally the spiritual, but from down I mean down under
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it's a it's got classic target fable wearer piece, but or what fable,
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whatever their wild fable, that's what it is. But as I got as
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I sat down at the monitor, I was like, oh, but then,
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and maybe Jenny, sorry I hit my microphone. Maybe Jenny the Darling
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can help us, because Jenny, I think sounds off in the comments,
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She's Mormon and she can tell me. Am I two, is this too
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provocative? I am wearing biker shorts. Yeah, I am wearing biker shorts.
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And that was also an accident. But as soon as I sat down,
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I thought, I'm wearing exactly what Heather said she had to wear.
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So it's like you're half dressed for the day as a Mormon would be,
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or overdressed for like Los Angeles. Yeah, absolutely overdressed. And Santa Clarita
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you can get away with that too, believe it or not. But yeah,
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we do ninety degrees here today, so so hot. It was ninety
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four yesterda here we hit it. It's ridiculous. So Jenny is a patron
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We have a lot going on. We have a lot going on. Today
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We are doing Salt Lake City with Emily and we will also be doing Beverly
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Hills soon. We're going to be doing Southern Charm this week, Golden Bachelor
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Winterhouses coming soon. A lot is happening, so hustle on over. So
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Emily and I are talking Salt Lake City today. We will also be serving
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up a little bit of dish before where we get into that. So why
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don't we head on over to dish? Shall we serving dish? Thanks?
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Okay, So, Emily, I don't know if you saw this in the
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news, but page six is reporting that Bethany Frankel had a party. It
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was a star studded dinner and boy there was people were reuniting. Jenny Garth
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and Tiffany Theesen reunited there. Apparently they had a few fallout. Yes,
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do you know because I don't know about this nine O two one oh,
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this Beverly Hills nine O two one oh co star feud that happened between them,
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but apparently they did. Do you know anything about it? No?
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And you know it was kind of yah know, absolutely not, and and
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I didn't even care to remember we're Google Search, but I did have an
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off cell in my brain that was like, oh yeah, I kind of
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remember something like that. They're in that picture together anyway, Bethany, Well,
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they had a falling out, they grew apart. It just that's all
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that says in this article. And the person who was on Tiffany, well,
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Tiffany was on Howard Stern in twenty twelve, and she said that she
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was the one who was hurt. Let's just say that. That's what she
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said. She didn't go any fair. That's what I remembered. Okay,
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yeah, I remember, because you were a Howard Stern Stan that's right,
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yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am Howard Stern Stan. So, and she's
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it was a hard situation for everybody. We were close with Charlie. My
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best friend was Charlie's roommate. It was hard, Theson told everybody at the
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time, told Stern. And in twenty seventeen, Garthen's spelling took a jab
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at Tiffany during an episode of RuPaul's Drag Race when they served as guest judges.
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Apparently there was a parody sketch on it after based on that show,
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you know, nine to two and zero, and Garth was critiquing a contestant
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who played Tiffany's character and refuse to say Tiffany's name during the comments. So
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you know, look, I'm not sure what happened here, but they reunited,
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and by God, there was another cast of characters that we'll get into
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here. Let me just call them by name. We have Nini Leaks,
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Larsa Pippen, Alyssa Donovan, Melissa Rivers, Tanya Rad, Cheryl Burke,
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Raquel Levis. But they put Rackell in here when it's actually Rachel and Amanza
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Smith from I know from selling Sunset and Bethany just wrote a dinner just because,
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but I think it's it's probably a fundraiser for just you know, her
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foundation. I'm guessing. I don't. I don't know. Yeah, I
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don't know, because then I know we can't say her name three times in
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a row, Bethany or else, all horrible things happen. So I'm just
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like Voldemort or gremlins get her wet. We can't get her wet. But
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but and don't feed them. But she had an amazing thing that she was
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in the warehouse, just like sending jets of supplies over the Middle East.
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Yeah, yeah, so I wonder if that be Strong be Strong initiative,
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which is amazing, amazing. I mean, she should do every video from
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that warehouse because you really get the point that she's doing the work, and
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it's very impressive. Well, and it's a good reminder. Yes, you
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know, at the very beginning of this with COVID and you know all the
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disasters, she tons of footage from those warehouses. I feel like I've been
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working in the warehouse. That's how often I would watch the stories because they
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were so amazing in what she was doing. Uh. But this is just
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a wild grouping and of course very newsworthy. So there you have it.
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I mean, jokes to the power of Bethany too, because just when you
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think, and it's just when you think like maybe she's over extended herself social
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media wise, then all of a sudden she's like, yeah, bitch,
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I got the power. What do you want? No, people are going
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to show up for her. People are going to show up, and they
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sure did. Yeah, but it's wild. I mean, I just like
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seeing the Larsa Pippen and the Amanza factor and of course you know Nini doesn't
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surprise me here, but there are the rest are very much all surprises.
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So that's yeah, that's what that is. Now, speaking of like nine
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O two one zero because I had to pivot into this story today. I
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couldn't believe it when I opened up Instagram. I'm looking at this People article
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that it's really breaking it down because I saw Tory's story toy story. Uh,
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Tory Spelling forced to evacuate her rental home after man bear kids himself inside
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neighbor's house with hostage within ar fifteen. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
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This is not crazy. I mean, this is not just crazy. This
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is maniacal, dangerous on all aspects and terrifying. As if we don't have
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enough going on in the world, you know you're gonna start doing this.
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There was a swat team there. It happened at nine am. Spelling was
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there sitting on the ground filming. Yeah, you know menate from Dean McDermott.
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Yeah, he's dating somebody and he's like in a roommate situation. I
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saw some of that too. Did you see that he's like dating a gal
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and they went to go file for unemployment benefits and or some kind of social
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services, two of them. And so I don't I would think after all
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this time, any prena that they had would be void and he would be
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entitled to something because I can't imagine that Candy has totally cut Tory off from
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all trusts and everything. But I don't know, I'm you know what I
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mean, Like, I think, no, I understand, but a trailer
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en, Yeah, I guess it must. I mean, I know,
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but I think that that was a a bit. She was doing a bit.
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She was doing a bit. I don't know what That one is fascinating
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and I can't wait for like the book on that one because it's just it's
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very conditional. I'd like to see all those conditions. It's always something with
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Tory, and that's really what the next show should be. It's always something
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with Tory because whether it's the marriage troubles, or have another baby, or
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you know, running out of money, the mother living in a trailer temporarily,
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she's always at a hospital. Now there's a hostage situation going on next
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to her. It's drama follows her. Yeah, you know, there are
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just some people where Drama Darling is their friend. And it's amazing to me
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how she continues to get up and get out there. And you know,
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she's been a regular on Jeff Lewis Live quite often, so when she shows
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up on that show. I'm like, I'm just happy she's showing up.
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You know, she's got a lot going on here. This just it's just
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a lot. It's a lot we need to I mean, I get that
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she creates some of it, I'm sure, but I can't imagine being a
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Tory Spelling growing up when she did, in the circles that she did and
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not being a little off because absolutely the child stardom and coming from the fame
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of her father, the family dynamics of the issues between her mother and the
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money, and when we went to that Warehouse of Tories when there was that
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special, when there was that show that Torri and Dean had called Tory and
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Dean, the amount of things and stuff that she has is insane, like
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this warehouse. And I don't know, the relationship between she and her mother
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is so contentious that it's concerning on many levels. But they were like beyond
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beyond royalty. So Tory had the upper hand on adults in Hollywood since she
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was an infant, and like could kind of just I mean, I don't
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think that that was muted in any way for her. She knew what she
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had and then it changed. But it's just so wild. I would love
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to know. I would love to know more as well, and I also
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want to know more on is it Cindy her mother's name is Cindy. I
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want to say sure. I want to say that, and I would like
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to know her side, because you know her withholding money from her or trust,
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there's obviously reasons on some level. And then there are times where I'm
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like, why aren't you helping your daughter? Like she has eighteen hundred kids,
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and you know, I don't know. It's just to me so many
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results of being raised in Hollywood and for that, well she's doing okay,
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she's doing okay, Yeah, well, raised in LA in Hollywood at that
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time. And when I say in Hollywood, basically like raised in the studios
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and she necessarily, but I'm saying her dad was so all powerful and just
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to be in that mix as a kid, I mean, we know the
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crazy freedoms that kids had back then, and I can't imagine what she got
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into and like just being like, no, there's no real uh checks and
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balances at all, because her dad's her dad, and she can do whatever
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she wants, absolutely, and people are going to give her whatever she wants
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well, you know, we root for you, Tori, we root for
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you in other news, you know, I followed. Georgio says he's a
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friend of mine as well, and he has a bit of an update about
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the alleged mistress of Chris Candace's husband. Oh, here we go, now,
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em he's gonna be like, see I was right, Oh, one
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hundred percent, I'm going to so I'm waiting for your response on this.
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This is me coming to you and saying so. Georgio says, did an
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interview with this lady because he wanted to see if there was anything there any
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prove anything. She is not able to show any receipts because they're very private.
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She was very focused on saying a lot of negative things about Candace.
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A lot of mistresses. Don't all mistresses, No, they all are like,
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oh, my wife is a great cow. She wants on the show.
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She wants her five minutes of fame, and uh, Georgios, it
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just didn't pass didn't pass by him, He didn't. It didn't cut the
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mustard. Mustard, what's the expression? And well, we'll see, aby,
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We'll see now we mustard gets cut. We know we already know about
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the musters ready, no, so follow. Georgio says he has some videos
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up about that. You know he's not buying it. He's not buying what
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she said, Well, it's not for sale. It isn't it's for sale.
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I don't know why Kelly Dodd just popped then, but she did telling
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us about the sale for no reason. The use of Kelly dodde just telling
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you about sales sale seals everything must cool, bitch for your sail. I
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don't think there's any other news that we need to discuss. I you know,
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that's it. Anything you got, No Beth and you next dinner.
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We're a veil. Just interested. You're a veil. I'm hungry in a
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veil. I'm here. I'm here to cover it. Yeah, get there.
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I'm not I don't need to be there. And I say we,
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I'm saying myself in all the darlings, oh and the holy garments. Yes,
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I want you to show up like that. Well, here's a Cheetah
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roar for you. Hey, where is it? Oh? There it is?
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But yeah, oh my god, I have a special shout out to
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Many other perks there you can read on the Patreon, But for now,
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let's head on into our Salt Lake City reap cap. Honey, I'm very
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excited for this because there were a lot of hurdles in the cup. Hurdles,
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namely relationship which everyone is talking about on the social media between who we
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know, Linda LD aka LD Monica's mom. Yeah, and I just want
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to read this. I believe this was on Twitter and everyone on Instagram reposted
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what ld Millionaire said. That's her Twitter name. Day Okay, cool,
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get ready, Golden Bachelor. Here she here she comes. This is what
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she says. Monica begged me to do this reality show with her. Begged.
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I didn't want to do it. She told me all I had to
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do was cook and speak Portuguese. How did she return the favor she did
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me? Dirty? Meanwhile, I would never compete with my only child unless
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it's sports. I'm too smart to try to go up against Monica. She'd
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chew me up and spit me out. Lastly, I never abandoned in her.
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I always put her needs above my own, even in her adulthood.
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I am not a perfect human, but I am a devoted mother. And
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vovo, God bless us everyone. No vovo it probably means grandma in sure.
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I'm sorry Portuguese and she says God bless us everyone. Is that tiny
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tim signing off here? It's a hashtagside of Celtic City. So I'm yeah,
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sorry, Linda, not very eld not accepting, No, I mean,
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geez, they are. I mean also Eldi Millionaire. You know,
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you know, you're a little thirsty there, and by tweeting out, you're
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making yourself a fact, you know, putting yourself into the fabric of the
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show by taking to social media. And that's how long has Eldi Millionaire had
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a Twitter account? You know what? These are the things that I don't
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know, and I'm not going to find out because anybody over the age of
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seventy that has Twitter account seventy, it's pretty in the no media wise,
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I thought you were going to Sam No, no, no, yeah,
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because it's like it's like an ancillary social media. So if you if you've
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got the like if if you want to be so in the vibe that you're
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on X and you're tweeting a lot and all that. Like I'm just curious,
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like I think she want maybe maybe she's okay with all this. That
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seems to be pretty a pretty uh you know, kind of outgoing person.
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I'm just saying I think she's she's alright with this. I'd like to see
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all. I wonder how much social media she's on and how much she's on
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it, and how much she's you know, saying this And was that a
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notesap post she was? No, I like, girl knows exactly what she's
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doing. She sure does. She just took right to the Twitter format the
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platform and just posted it up there. Okay, Okay, Well, I
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I don't lie. I'm not comfortable with the situation. No, I'm not
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either. And you know, I know you stand Monica, but she is
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you wait, you think you're saying Monica is bad? No, yeah,
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you stand Monica, And I just think that she she plays a dirty game,
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just like her mother. Just like her mother. She left that party
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and did you hear what that child said? We didn't even that's the Easter
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egg Hunt. Yeah, well Monica had to put the mask on herself first.
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No, yes, yeah, you put it on and you stay at
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that Easter egg hunt. You're gonna take your kids away from an event like
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that? That's well, I don't have so maybe I'm not realizing you're not.
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You got to weigh you see, this is but she's doing it.
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If she's saying that her mother never prioritized her while she's doing the same thing
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to her kids, cat's in the cradle, baby. I mean, honestly,
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it's so true. She's leaving this party her kids want to stay for
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the Easter egg hunt. That's so mean to do to a child. And
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I don't care if it's for a TV show. You know. It's like
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she was back into well, I don't want to say she was back into
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a corner, but she was obviously lit up. She and her mom was
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really getting in there. Her mom didn't need to get in there. She's
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thirsty, but she didn't need to get in there. It's none of her
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business. Can you imagine the hole like, at your core rage to be
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in that situation, and then your mom's walking around gaslighting it and your mother
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and making you feel like you are two feet tall and she's and my daughter's
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little cuckoo. I'm so great, and everybody's like, oh my, yeah,
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you're so wonderful. No, that was awful. I completely agree,
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I especially knowing how she's on the show this. It is so toxic.
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Their relationship is insane to me, and I think that Monica brought her on
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to expose the toxicity, and it's like she's penalizing her and she's like,
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here's the here's your come upance. I'm gonna tell these terrible stories about how
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you were a bad mom, and you're gonna show up for it because that's
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how you can repay me. And honestly, I'm fine with that. I'll
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be I'm fine with it. But it's really hard to watch because then,
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like you said, her mom's coming in and she's like, oh, I'm
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so sorry, apologizing in behalf of her. This is a family party.
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Yeah, I get that, but it's also housewives. You know the drill,
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They're they're far away. They weren't even making that big of a scene,
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and Angie kept it together the whole time. She was like, I
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just want to talk to you. She calmed it down, she tried to
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work things out. She's calling out angiecus Monica, but she was accusing Monica
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and Monica. I felt for Monica in that situation because I was like,
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she's and Monica said it because I was almost saying it out loud when Angie
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said, you didn't do this, and Monica's like, that's literally what I
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did. I literally pulled you aside to say what people were saying. Yeah,
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and you didn't tell me. Well, she didn't tell her before she
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told everybody. That was Angie's point. She told her after she exposed it
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on camera and said to everyone she had already told Whitney and Heather. No,
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it was Whitney and Lisa. But it was based on what Meredith was
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implying. And I have since I think this was not on the show.
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This was like something that Meredith said on social media. Maybe that she said
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I wasn't talking about that rumor. What was she was talking about? Apparently
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there was a different rumor. Yeah, bullhit. See that's the thing.
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She has to say that because she knows that Glad come any will be passed.
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And it's ironic that she's not going to be at this Greek Orthodox Easter
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lunch because she's got to go to La to be on the committee, the
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chair committee for the GLAD Awards, when in fact she has now alluded to
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these rumors, and I completely agree that's what the rumor was that she was
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implying, of course, or I mean, like, if you go back
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and watch the US she said, husband, but maybe it's a financial thing.
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I lost my leak cleans the palace, my friend, we got here
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early. This is incredibly ill manner, grown chick seats my friend sixty gees
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six six sixty gs. This is not your dinner. You can lame.
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You want me to talk about the husband? Long right there. You have
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not been kind to make ge You're embarrassing your follows, my friends. Next,
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excuse me, sock. Can we get Charles time play? Gee?
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You can lave the husband or give people time to hit record on their tape
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before you play that on their recorders. Okay, darlings, I will lead.
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We'll play at the very end. When we wrap up, I'll play
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at the very end. Okay, So get your tapes ready get some place
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on my tape, so Meredith is out there, and so, yes,
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Monica did play dirty. I I agree with myself on that because she didn't
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have to bring up the rumor. She could have just let Meredith get that
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out there there instead of her. If Meredith was alluding to it, maybe
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she would have even said it. Who knows, here's Monica's game and it's
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not even a game. I'm starting to think this is just Monica. She
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has zero secrets and has nothing to hide or lose, and so that's why
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she's just saying everything. And it doesn't feel like Whitney, where there's an
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ulterior motive involved to deflect. With Monica, it's like, I don't give
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a shit, and this is what it is, and this is what I'm
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going to say, and I'm just going to tell you right now. And
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maybe she waited to say it on camera with Angie, but she did say
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it, and maybe she assumed Angie knew. I don't know. I'm sure
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Angie knew it was coming down here, yeah, the pipeline, right,
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But I also think you know, here Monica, everything is already exposed about
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her. She's very much the camera of salt Lake City. So she's going
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to throw her stuff out there. She's going to get ahead of it before
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anyone else, can you know, bring that arsenal against her? And so
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she's saying, like, bring it. I have nothing to hide. I
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you know what. She was listing off all these things that are about her
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foreclosure, divorced, there was something else in there. I couldn't understand an
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affair. And she was like, but I own it and I stand in
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it. Yeah, but you're the one who brought it up. No one
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else did, and you, Monica did bring it to the table in front
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of everyone and the cameras about these rumors about Sean. Can you remind me
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when the rumors came out, wasn't Whitney kind of pushing Monica to go?
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Yes? She so, I mean, I mean, I guess I kind
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of in that moment, I can also see her being like I was gonna
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tell her, but now I'm being like, Whitney's kind of like, this
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is the time you do it in front of cameras and everything. Now it's
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good. Well, she just did it to Whitney, so it's already out
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there. So she had to tell Angie, Yeah, because it was already
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said on camera she didn't have to say that, but she did, but
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she did. She did, but she didn't have to say she did.
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Yeah, she didn't have to say it, but she did. And she's
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like, we're throwing everyone out there. I'm going to be out there.
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You're going to be out there too, and you know, to quote many
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of the housewives, it's not it's not your story to tell, you know,
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correct, But I will. Going back to Linda the mom, I
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don't think that Monica is intentionally like I like, I'm going to expose who
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you are. I think that she was like, well, my mom and
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I have this crazy relationship and you're gonna see it. So here it is.
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And I don't blame that crazy relationship on Monica. I blame it on
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a lifetime of her mom. And now she actually needs her mom because of
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the childcare, and so she's just like kind of so she's, i know,
29:12
get a nanny because no, I don't know if she can afford it.
29:18
Well she can't know. She can't know because of Housewives, which is
29:22
why what's up. No, she couldn't before. That's why she needs her
29:27
mom. I agree, but now she can because of Housewives, and that's
29:30
why she's fighting so hard like this to be on this show. And that's
29:36
that. Do I think she's a bad housewife? No, I think she's
29:41
great. She's gonna think I'm going to say, like in terms of the
29:45
Utah Wives, I want to hang out with Monica, Okay, and oh
29:52
really, No, I don't trust her. I think so many of her
29:57
motives are I mean, her mother and her what a what a duet?
30:03
What a duet? I do you can trust her? Yes? Yeah,
30:11
I do. Okay, Darling, would you let me ask you this?
30:17
Would you trust Tamra? Hmm that she wouldn't. Okay, what are we
30:22
doing? Are we? It's it like I'm going I happen to be in
30:26
a girl's weekend with her. I'm not going to confide in I think I
30:30
better not Monica. There's the same person. I don't think so. I
30:37
don't think so. Eventually, maybe Monica will be, but I think right
30:40
now Monica lets her guard down enough to let anybody kind of like she feels
30:45
like the I just really like her. No, I I like that you
30:49
like her, and I like that you like that I like her, And
30:52
that's really cool. That's the thing I like about you, she has the
30:59
well, I will say this, the thing that makes her pop off as
31:02
a housewife is your words exactly. She has nothing to lose, and that
31:08
can be great and reckless, and so that's why she is burning things down
31:15
as she goes. And I just felt bad for the kids at this Easter
31:22
Orthodox. I mean, I think that's really what it comes down to.
31:26
Cancel Easter egg hunt. How would you have felt about that? See?
31:30
Much better? Okay, much better. They had their thing, they broke
31:36
it up, that's that. But for her to leave along with the kids
31:40
in tow was disturbing to me. Now, everyone can leave a housewives event
31:45
anytime they want, after a party like that, that's what happens. But
31:48
this was different because the kids were there. Okay, we can move on,
31:52
but we can go back to the Greek charcouterie because that was amazing.
31:57
Oh great spread. Poor Cy. She had to be sitting back in New
32:02
York, like, why can't we get a spread like that? That's what
32:05
I'm talking about. That kind of food. I'm hungry and those are some
32:10
good ones. Yeah, I mean, I love the dollar bills. I
32:15
love that we're at Greek Orthodox Easter. The pastels were just fabulous, the
32:21
priest everything, Oh, that room is so damn bright. I would have
32:25
to wear sunglasses constantly. I don't think I could handle walking into that room
32:30
until about seven pm at night. Heather sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen in that
32:37
room, always gonna get burned. You're gonna get this by Angie, her
32:43
mom and the sun in Salt Lake City. Heather brings nine lemons in a
32:47
bowl and Heather says to Sean, where'd you get your clothes custom made?
32:52
And he's like, from my gay boyfriend, yes, which was amazing.
32:55
He's trying to get ahead of it, well not really ahead of it,
32:59
but respond to it by making a joke. Linda ld and Monica's dad I'm
33:05
sorry. Yeah. Linda and Monica's dad are both sing I'm sorry. That's
33:10
what I'm saying. Thank you. Angie's dad are single and they flirt and
33:15
that was a fun moment. And I loved Angie's speech about Easter and how
33:21
she's inspired by Christ's resurrection about and he was mocked and ridiculed and he managed
33:25
to rise up three days later, and Heather interconfessional was like Angie's making yourself
33:32
Christ in this story, which would make Meredith, and then she says Brutus.
33:37
I was like, what did she say, Brutus? I had to
33:40
rewind it, and then she obviously catches herself and meant Judas and then comments
33:46
on how she has lost her religion, which was very funny. Yes,
33:51
it's going away. Look, it's evaporating. You can't even remember your biblical
33:54
references. She can be happy about that. Brutus wasn't he in Popeye?
34:04
Isn't the big guy in Popeye? Oh? Bruno? Bruno close Brutoka,
34:09
Bruce, I've lost my Popeye. Oh no, we've lost Okay, No,
34:15
I think it is Bruno. So Heather and Lisa talk, and this
34:19
whole conversation is just so funny to me about how Heather's like, I was
34:24
the last to know, and if you're sending your child away for two years,
34:27
you should know the good and the bad of it. And Lisa's like,
34:30
your experience growing up in the church was totally different. I just want
34:36
to support him. And then Heather's like, well, why don't you read
34:38
my book and learn about my experience? And Lisa's face just shifted ever so
34:45
much, like, oh, this is about your book. Yeah, she
34:49
really did. She was in one gear and she had the hard reset.
34:52
She was just like, oh, this is about your book now. I
34:58
mean, in fairness to Heather, I would definitely also be like, I
35:01
literally wrote the book on this, so it might be a good reference to
35:07
because she did so, like, yeah, Heather makes a good point,
35:14
but it just did feel like a plug. It was an amazing plug.
35:17
And I but I do think Heather is like, this is such a silly
35:21
argument. No, she's the last She's literally the last person you should be
35:27
talking about this too. End of story period. And when Heather says like
35:30
I would never undermine you as a mother or do anything like this, I'm
35:35
just gonna tell you how horrible of an experience it will be for your son
35:39
and the repercussions of the choices that he's making, and tell you everything you
35:45
know, it's like, girl, no, it's not happening. I love
35:49
the sweatshirt, but Heather, you did wrong. She's not wrong. No,
35:54
I don't think she's wrong. If I if, but I just don't
35:58
think she gets at least as not open to it. So it's not it's
36:01
not wrong that Heather. I I could see it in five years if Heather
36:06
said nothing and just didn't do anything like and and Lisa might if there's a
36:12
bad experience or whatever, be like, why didn't anyone talk to me?
36:15
At least she can go back and say, Heather, try, but there's
36:19
no winning here. It's not going to listen. Her son is not.
36:23
Yeah, she's just trying to like digest this information about Jack and embrace it
36:29
and support it. Lisa is so the last thing that she wants to hear
36:34
is Heather. But I don't think Heather's wrong to it speak up, it
36:37
would. It's it's a little off to me, like we were talking about
36:42
before that Whitney isn't saying anything but I but I get I also, I
36:49
understand both sides really clearly, and I don't think either one's wrong. I
36:52
just think that Heather actually thinking that there's anything that she can do to talk
36:58
to her about it is ridiculous. And this is the same thing to me
37:01
as what anyone in an extreme religion tries to do, which is they try
37:08
to convert you to your way of thinking. So Heather may not be a
37:12
Mormon anymore, but now she's an ex Mormon who tries to convert people away
37:15
from Mormonism, and that's almost just as bad so the habits and the things
37:22
that you learn to be a Mormon and to try to convert people if you
37:28
are living in that way. Heather is on a She doesn't realize it,
37:34
but she's using the same tactics of being passionate about thinking that you're right about
37:42
something one million percent and everyone else needs to know that message. And that's
37:46
where I think Heather is one hundred percent wrong. And while she grows in
37:51
her ex Mormon life, she'll begin to realize that she needs to accept the
37:57
fact that she will never be able to change people and force her agenda or
38:02
her message on other people the way that she probably forced her message and agenda
38:07
on people when she was a Mormon. It's the same thing, different message.
38:12
My argument would be, like, I think she is changing minds because
38:16
I do think that she probably hears pretty much people who are open to listening
38:21
to people that are open, but not this. Yeah, not the same.
38:24
I agree, I agree with that, but I do think like Heather
38:29
is she she might just be blinded by her success since bad Mormon in terms
38:37
of people being open to conversations and it's not like across the board, Heather,
38:42
because Lisa's that door's closed right now. But she should also know that
38:45
it's ridiculous for Lisa to even want to begin the conversation. As a mother,
38:52
Lisa would never like if I were Lisa, I wouldn't want to talk
38:55
to Heather either. There's no way I would just say exactly what Lisa said,
38:59
which was like, you wrote a book about being a bad Mormon,
39:02
and I'm focused on my could being a good Mormon. Well, but that's
39:07
the that's the conundrum with Lisa too. It's like, I don't know,
39:10
I've I've read some books I've read like Under the Banner of Heaven about Mormonism,
39:15
and and I've I have some friends that are Mormon, and Lisa is
39:22
not of that vibe. And so I can see Heather being like it's and
39:28
Heather talks about it like Lisa. I could see Heather thinking that there might
39:32
be a crack in the armor there that she could maybe get through to Lisa.
39:37
But how is that going to change anything about Jack's mission? I don't
39:43
know, Like I have no idea. Maybe Heather is thinking like that Jack's
39:46
young enough that she could at least plan a seed to say if you ever
39:52
need someone to talk to. But I mean, like, clearly Jack,
39:57
Jack has that information though Heather, he knows, he wrote a book.
40:00
You're in his life, his mom's on a show with you, he knows
40:04
he gets it. Yeah, And but you know what I didn't like about
40:08
the conversation between Heather and Whitney. I'm I think it was they had a
40:15
conversation, right, Heather and Whitney in this episode last episode? Oh was
40:22
it last episode? Yeah, because we talked about it too about how like
40:27
Whitney's like, I don't know, like it's fine, And I was like,
40:31
Whitney, like, why are you doing this all of a sudden,
40:36
state agriculture is here? Can you hold on for a second place? Hold
40:38
on with Sorry it's there are these fruit flies that are really bad and they've
40:45
unleashed themselves here in Santa Clarita. So there's been a whole spring situation.
40:51
Oh okay, they're Mormon fruitflies and they're trying to convert the whole neighborhood.
40:58
So anyway, okay, So well, when Heather was facetiming with Ashley,
41:05
I think that's what I'm thinking of is that she's expressing to Ashley, like
41:10
there's a cultural devotion, and so she's basically saying that Jack is she's judging
41:19
his motivation to do this mission. She's like, it's not just out of
41:23
devotion to God, it's devotion to the community and keeping up the status quo
41:28
and all this stuff. And she says it's I've never thought of Jack Barlow
41:32
as a particularly devout person. And to me, those words are skating very
41:40
close to being offensive to someone's child, because you're judging their spiritual journey,
41:47
you're judging their motive for doing this, and that to me has shades of
41:55
the extremism that comes with the life that she led before. So it's very
42:01
very shrouded, if you will, and judgment and I don't like it.
42:06
I think she's got a judgy perspective on this, and I think she's totally
42:14
right about all of it, but I think her angle she needs to pull
42:16
back. She needs to pull back. I don't disagree with her, but
42:20
I think she needs to pull back because everything she's saying with Ashley and there
42:23
takes about how it is very cultural and it's and Ashley saying like, well,
42:29
his friends are doing it, so he's doing it too. It all
42:31
makes perfect sense. I'm like, I get you. I mean, I've
42:35
been on on some level I've told you about like even with a Christian youth
42:39
group. You know, it becomes about this is what we're doing, and
42:43
it's not even a how is it even about God anymore? And it's just
42:45
like Heather talking about her journal when she was Jack's age, there was no
42:50
getting through to Heather. She was basically like totally laser focus. So yeah,
42:57
I just think she needs to respect his choices, and she can do
43:00
that by pulling back a little with her opinions and how she says them.
43:07
I think that she can live in these opinions and her experience and keep with
43:13
this message of like as you said, changing people and helping people through this
43:17
if they've had a bad experience like her, but at the same time still
43:22
respecting her friend's journey. I think she's kind of crossing the line a little
43:25
here. Well, we'll have to see, because I think she's she if
43:31
she If we have another I'm sure we will, but I think if we
43:37
have a third times the try that'll be too much. Okay, I agree,
43:42
I think this this was the conversation and you know what, she's not
43:45
perfect, she's coming out actually a conversation and so yeah, and so that's
43:51
that, and let's leave it there. And I and I agree she needs
43:53
to at least approach Lisa and say, you know, I can't get behind
43:59
this and read my book and then move on and then let it lie.
44:06
Yeah, and that's that. Uh oh god, time will tell, Time
44:10
will tell. Yeah. But it was also, yes, it was also
44:15
about Lisa not It was also about the Angie Heather house whatever, having Angie
44:22
over to Heather's house that offended Lisa. And it was also then how there's
44:25
like I can't believe it wouldn't even tell me about this, So there there
44:29
was. It was like a little bit of a bigger conversation. But I
44:34
think, judging from the mid season teaser, it seems like maybe there's more
44:39
to come between those two. And I really really would. I haven't read
44:45
Heather's book yet, and I want to because it's so up my alley and
44:49
I'm really fascinated, and I would like her to write another book that is
44:53
even more of an expose, if you will, because I think she's got
44:58
a lot to tell and I think I think that in many ways she's going
45:00
through like a PTSD. So when she has this conversation with Lisa, what
45:06
Jack is doing is very triggering to her. And this conversation with Ashley really
45:13
lands because you realize how happy Heather is that Ashley's living her life and not
45:19
doing what she did so and that's just an incredible journey to watch. Let's
45:25
talk about Whitney and Justin's date night. Oh yeah, okay, so that
45:32
was weird. It was a date afternoon, which is fine. I was
45:36
a date afternoon. It was very bright again, very bright. Everything is
45:40
so bright. It's just twenty four hours of day and snow. Whitney is
45:47
like, can't believe it has been so long that we've had a day tonight,
45:53
are you? And then she gets mad at him. She's like,
45:55
you're feeling overwhelmed. I felt like I'm sink ink, sinking, and grab.
46:06
He has to sitting on the couch and getting on Instagram in the morning
46:12
kills sneak. She's just adding in Gee's and K's wherever and then and then
46:19
he's like, well, you know, I don't want to always be the
46:21
one initiating sucks, And she's like women had to connect to open up a
46:24
hussacks And she's like, okay, and I love how she just like is
46:30
looking and like everybody is everybody listening? Ladies out there and uh. And
46:37
then they got into a fight apparently about him not wearing his wedding ring.
46:40
That was weird. Did I miss something because I don't know a trailer?
46:45
Yeah, this is the first time we're getting to know the story. Okay,
46:47
why is any wearing it? She didn't even say okay that that's okay.
46:53
Then I didn't miss anything. No, that's we need a little bit
46:58
of a follow up, there is it? Because it's job is labor intensive?
47:01
Like is he playing softball all the time? Like, what's happening?
47:08
I know, why didn't they tell us in that stupid day date go with
47:14
the table ready for sy? I mean again, the food I wanted was
47:20
food. I want to hear about you and your food every day. I
47:28
see your wedding rink in the drawer and that hurts me. And then it's
47:31
like she's like, suns since you went back up to work, it's hard.
47:38
I'm like, what did you I don't know. It seems like it's
47:43
nice maybe poor on that wine. I was like, give her. Meanwhile,
47:46
Mary's over there porn a gallon into the oldest quirk. I mean that
47:52
bottle of champagne again, probably from two thousand and nine twelve. Oh thank
48:00
you, Well, there you go. That's why that cork is just dead.
48:02
She's like, that's corn as soft. And they're they just their relationship
48:07
is so wild. Meredith is so committed to making this work, and I
48:12
it's like the odd couple. I don't know what I'm watching or what I'm
48:15
hearing. When Mary and Meredith are together, it's so mesy. Mary's never
48:20
more like she just feels very like real all of a sudden. When Meredith
48:27
when there, it's just a one on one. I'm like, oh,
48:29
oh, she's a real person. Yeah. But their cookiness, like their
48:35
cookiness back to back rubbing against each other is the strangest. It's like the
48:40
ingredients is from that candle making party or I'm sorry, the candle making scene
48:46
with Lisa and Angie when Lisa was like linen and tulips, and that's like
48:53
Mary and Meredith. They don't go together at all, but I'm interested to
48:59
see it herself. That's Mary and then Angie's like Franken Sense and Merr and
49:07
chlove and I'm like, that's again Mary and Meredith. Yes, I don't
49:13
know. This is gonna be a hot mess or it might be amazing.
49:16
Then the conversation with Mary and her kid about they finally have the conversation about
49:21
he is married and one time she saw him getting ready in the morning and
49:28
I'm like you it was like a year ago, So does he not ever
49:32
leave? Yeah? And then she says like he needs to get a job.
49:37
Also, the other thing that's very confusing about Mary's house is there are
49:45
like on the way to when she's walking to her kitchen, she passes for
49:50
her second kitchen because I saw a second another kitchen in the background. Okay,
49:53
she passes at least fourteen rooms that are all current and remodeled, but
49:59
all the scenes that she films are in that eighties room with the green carpet
50:05
and the brass fixtures. The other rooms are remodeled. And yes, didn't
50:10
watch she When Meredith comes over and they're walking down the hallway, it's like
50:15
a gallery. She's walking down the sum okay of pretty current looks, and
50:22
her kitchen is current, but the room she is always in is that like
50:29
room from do you remember like Old Wheel of Fortune where it would be like
50:32
a little bubble in the corner and whoever won could pick the items out of
50:36
the room and you can get all the wall carpet and the Dalmatian. That's
50:39
no the room that Mary always films in. The editors, I mean,
50:45
the producers are very smart to put her in there, because that's the craziest
50:50
it really is. It's there's so much brass. You can see the crew
50:54
like reflecting off the brass. It's green and brass. It's very My god,
51:02
that is so I don't know even know what era that is. It's
51:06
eighties, right, Yeah. It feels like the end of Goodfellas, like
51:09
when everybody has some money and they're really spending it. Nice. Yes,
51:16
nice brass. Nice Walldon wall brass, Wallda wall carpet. You know,
51:25
walla wall carpet's definitely coming back. If wallpaper is back, Wallda wall is
51:30
coming soon. Look, I like a wall to wall. I'm not gonna
51:32
lie. I do. I like a wall the wall, but I do
51:37
like a wood or when I could go either way, but when I see
51:40
a when I see a vivid wall to wall, color or a well done
51:45
wall to wall. Just a well done wall wall. Yeah, yeah,
51:49
yeah, okay, a like a house that needs to be gutted and redone.
51:55
The wall to wall is terrifying. You don't want to do that.
51:59
Here's the thing is, you have to replace that carpet like every couple of
52:02
years, keep it lush. And also not discussing, but I don't think
52:07
hers has been I think no one goes in there. I think it's been
52:09
like a museum room, and it has been since the eighties. And then
52:14
that's why they shoot in there, and that's the only time that they've used
52:16
that room. Yeah, well, I encourage you to use any of the
52:22
other fourteen rooms. Just on the way from the waining room to the second
52:29
kitchen. Yeah, there's a wig room, right, there's always wigs.
52:34
There's always like mannequin heads. There's mannequin heads around. When you film a
52:37
horror film, you intentionally make it disjoin it so that the viewer doesn't know
52:45
which way is up and which way is out. And that's how I feel
52:47
when they shoot Mary in her home. Yes, that is a very good
52:52
observation. And not only that, but her excuse for not going to the
52:58
Greek Orthodox lunch, which is and she doesn't want to go because Mary,
53:00
that's not going. But then she calls Angie that morning it's like I get,
53:04
oh, I'm going to Vagas checking my own mad a flood a year
53:07
ago, a year ago because it's been redone finally, So she has to
53:12
go because I mean there's a real big hurry on that. Nobody argues with
53:17
her. They're like, yeah, mayor got it. I don't expect her
53:21
to be there. I don't expect her. But yeah, Mary and Robert
53:24
Junior, with him being he is married, he went to the courthouse.
53:30
Yes, and then Mary cries and he's about his right like non connectable as
53:37
she is. Where they're just like talking for this first time and we know
53:39
now he lives in a wing with his wife in that house. Okay,
53:43
here's the other thing. Is Mary's church defunct? Yeah? Okay for sure?
53:49
Yes, So where so she must have like trust or something like I'm
53:53
also like from from her grandmother, Like I'm also like confused about the financial
54:00
Yeah, she's independently wealthy. She has a trust. That's why she married
54:04
Robert Senior was to inherit. The money had to torture him, Yes,
54:08
and then she would be granted this. So, so, now that the
54:13
church is defunct, does she have to pay taxes? Because I assume this
54:16
was all part of the church. You don't have to pay taxes for the
54:20
church. It's non taxable on her money, on her trust money. I'm
54:24
wondering if now, like the the now that the church is gone, she
54:30
doesn't have any write off capability? Got it? Well, even if she
54:36
does, I think she's got plenty of money to cover it. Yeah,
54:38
I like, Also, do you know any backstory like that she knows Andy
54:45
from New York. They used to go the same gym wild Okay, I
54:49
don't know that backstory. I know I saw this same on social media too,
54:52
and I don't know. Okay, that blows my mind and nobody got
54:57
the details. Like the last place I can imagine Mary is in Manhattan only
55:05
just it's being seems like that would totally overwhelm her and disgust her. But
55:13
she loves the shopping though, That's probably why she was there fashion Yeah,
55:16
yeah, I guess I'm just thinking of her judging like and cleanliness and all
55:22
that. Like I just can't imagine her, like yeah, I'm now going
55:27
to go sweat it up in a public jam, right. I don't know.
55:30
Maybe she was a different person back then. The more we get of
55:35
Mary, the more questions I could not agree with you more. And yeah,
55:42
I'm trying to think if there's anything else in this episode that we didn't
55:45
cover. H this was Yeah, I think we got all of it.
55:52
I think we got all of it. Yeah, I mean, uh oh
55:57
the bunny, the bunny in the beginning, that's what we did, right,
56:00
that was awesome. I like that bunny come out during the reunion.
56:05
Oh yeah, Bravo con oh yeah, but it would be great at the
56:10
reunion and during their glam just to have that bunny just jump out and give
56:15
him like five minutes till stage. I like that the bunny was in the
56:20
back of Heather's car and then when it leaned forward to scare her, she
56:24
was like ah and then just like lean back, like Okay, We're done
56:28
with that and I'm just gonna stay here. Yeah. I think that bravocan
56:32
they should have certain mascots roaming around like that bunny, like the blue mime.
56:39
Well, the Blue Bunny is going to be in the museum. I'm
56:42
sure, but roaming around. But somebody could dress as that Oh that's true,
56:47
the mime from Potomac from all those years ago. Just have a mime
56:52
some other wacky you know people that we've seen. Oh, the pool Bubble
56:59
gal from Teresa's Well Bubble would be amazing. Engage party. Yes, yes,
57:05
we could come up with a lot. Yeah, yeah, they could
57:09
definitely get that Turkey Turkey, that Turkish coffee lady that does she should have
57:15
a booth. See now that is a great idea to do. Some of
57:21
the fortune tellers or psychics from the shows. That would be a great booth
57:27
idea. Yeah. See, maybe they'll have it. You know, we
57:30
don't know what's planned. Who knows. Anything is possible. We could probably
57:36
look out, look up, who are the vendors? But anything's possible and
57:39
those doors open. I'm excited. I'm excited. Well, darlings, that's
57:47
it. That's it for this before we wrap up. Okay, So Emily
57:53
are and I we just hit se Lake City tomorrow, Southern Charm with Deanna
57:58
and Golden Bachelor is the is the bonus episode? And then Emily and I
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are going to be back on Monday talking about New York it's going to be
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the first reunion, which I'm actually very excited about. How about you,
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Yeah, I am very excited about it. I think, like any anytime
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you have maybe felt a little let down this season by the reserved cast,
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it seems like the wheels have come off. I just don't want to on
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this. I want to be seen. I've also realized that Jenna, Jenna
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cannot just have fun. As much as I love her, I think she's
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got to have a purpose. It's and it's I think it's more than I've
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seen with any of the other wives. Like it's got to have a business
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route to it. And then she she likes to work. The difference between
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Jenna and VICKI is that Vicky works hard and plays hard, whereas Jenna just
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stays on that speed, you know, forever, but that works for her.
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Can't wait to see if she brings in bags of swag to the reunion
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and hands them out and obviously one for Andy and asks him to open it
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up on camera and talk about what he sees. She should just bring Sy
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a bag of hot good food with all branding from restaurants, but then Si
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would just oh my god, that's how you get side to plug it,
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just keep giving her branded food. I'm gonna play the Meredith song, the
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Meredith Remix before I hear this set's ready. So here we go, Emily.
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This was so fun. Yes always, And I see you on Monday,
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Darling. And I'm glad I could agree on Manka right. Oh that
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wasn't the song. I was just saying I'm glad that you came around and
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agreed with me on Monica. Okay, go ahead, play okay, oh
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snap, okay, sixty geese chick seas my friend. We got here early
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to the This is incredibly ill mannered and road chicksy is my friend? Sixty
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g sixty sixty sixty geess, this is not your dinner. You can Laine.
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You want me to talk about the husband a long? You have not
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been kind to Meg. You're embarrassing your follow my friend. Excuse me,
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sock. Can we get Charles high Plane? Gee? You can lame?
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Drama Darling, Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling