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4 GOLPES · GAS MONEY

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SPEAKER_07: Welcome to another installment of Gas Money.
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SPEAKER_07: We have too many people in the building, but I'm gonna introduce Red first.
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SPEAKER_07: Red is in the building.
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SPEAKER_12: Thank you there, uh AG.
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SPEAKER_12: I appreciate the welcome.
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SPEAKER_12: And I am passing it off.
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SPEAKER_12: We have Ace in the building.
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SPEAKER_10: What up, what up, what up?
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SPEAKER_02: Hi, everybody.
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SPEAKER_02: We have uh Morel in the building today.
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SPEAKER_05: Hey.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, well, then I gotta introduce Zap.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh we have Zap in the building.
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SPEAKER_05: Miraculously.
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SPEAKER_07: Wow.
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SPEAKER_07: Miraculous Zap.
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SPEAKER_07: It's one day, the same day you missed, and we have Chubbs in the building.
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SPEAKER_06: Fuck Chubbs, you can't.
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SPEAKER_06: We got Brie in the building.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey.
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SPEAKER_06: We also have KC in the building.
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SPEAKER_11: Didn't she just sit?
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, what's up?
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SPEAKER_07: So yeah, we have K Lo and K in the building.
0:53
SPEAKER_07: K Lo K.
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SPEAKER_07: KKK out this motherfucker.
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SPEAKER_11: KKK out this motherfucker.
0:59
SPEAKER_06: Don't worry.
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SPEAKER_06: Two of them sound alike, but they're different people.
1:01
SPEAKER_06: Who they sound alike?
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SPEAKER_06: Twinning.
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SPEAKER_06: Sound exactly alike, but they're different people.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay.
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SPEAKER_06: They identify as different people.
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SPEAKER_12: Y'all motherfuckers didn't hear anything yet.
1:09
SPEAKER_12: Wait till wait wait till conversation really gets going.
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SPEAKER_12: They lock in on the same fucking wave.
1:14
SPEAKER_12: It's crazy.
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SPEAKER_12: They lock in on the same motherfucking wave.
1:19
SPEAKER_08: Okay, so Rulla Rollers himself.
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SPEAKER_12: There's two sets of fingerprints, people.
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SPEAKER_12: Two sets of fingerprints.
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SPEAKER_12: The government got them twice.
1:31
SPEAKER_12: Really?
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SPEAKER_12: No, they're not.
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SPEAKER_02: No, they're not.
1:33
SPEAKER_02: They're not.
1:34
SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_12: I was gonna say, hold on, wait a minute.
1:37
SPEAKER_12: How does that mean?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because of fingerprints, they form yeah, they form the zone, but they're they could be similar, but they're different.
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SPEAKER_07: Does the other one feel it?
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SPEAKER_07: Like if you stub your tongue, you can feel it.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Our nervous system is not connected.
1:49
SPEAKER_06: Let's just make it sure.
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SPEAKER_06: Do you guys have weird sister moments where one thinks the other one is, the other one's like, I was just thinking that.
1:55
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
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SPEAKER_06: This is not a rom-com or something.
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SPEAKER_12: All right, this isn't like we're the same thing as a.
2:01
SPEAKER_12: Oh god.
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SPEAKER_12: You know.
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SPEAKER_12: It's not it's not a twin interview.
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SPEAKER_12: So do you do you get what?
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SPEAKER_12: Terrible joke.
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SPEAKER_12: Terrible joke.
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SPEAKER_06: Alright, so we're just gonna we're just gonna get into it now.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a lot of topics.
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SPEAKER_06: So how was everybody's weekend?
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SPEAKER_12: Um fuck the bullshit.
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SPEAKER_12: Let's get into the real topics.
2:16
SPEAKER_06: Uh where we going to How's everybody's weekend?
2:19
SPEAKER_06: Uh we were we were in Miami.
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SPEAKER_06: I know.
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SPEAKER_06: Sorry for missing the episode.
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SPEAKER_06: A couple of us was in Miami.
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SPEAKER_06: How many of us were in Miami?
2:27
SPEAKER_07: It's only two of us in this room.
2:28
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, okay.
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SPEAKER_07: So you you tell us about your Miami experience and I'll tell you about mine.
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SPEAKER_07: My Miami experience was good.
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SPEAKER_06: Could have been better.
2:35
SPEAKER_06: Why?
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SPEAKER_06: Due to people in the circle.
2:39
SPEAKER_06: But why?
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SPEAKER_06: It was a lot of a lot of stress.
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SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:42
SPEAKER_12: Did you did you get any new buns while you were out there?
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SPEAKER_07: No.
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SPEAKER_07: Okay.
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SPEAKER_07: I didn't go there for that.
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SPEAKER_07: I mean, it was carnival, so we didn't go there to be miscreants.
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SPEAKER_07: You know, it was carnival time.
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SPEAKER_12: You're in a relationship.
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SPEAKER_12: He's not.
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SPEAKER_12: Um I'm not speaking to you because black men don't cheat.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay, thank you.
2:57
SPEAKER_12: Go ahead.
2:57
SPEAKER_06: I almost got the whole situation.
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SPEAKER_06: I almost got laid out by told black guy's heart out of his chest.
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SPEAKER_07: What the fuck did you do?
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SPEAKER_06: I didn't do nothing.
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SPEAKER_06: He would follow me down the street.
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, when Darius was about to challenge him to a fight.
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SPEAKER_07: You know those sinister smiles they do in the movies when you know you can kill somebody?
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SPEAKER_07: Yeah, one of those.
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SPEAKER_06: I'm walking.
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SPEAKER_06: They watch him zoom through everybody, like cutting through fast.
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SPEAKER_06: Black bullhead, black bullhead.
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SPEAKER_06: DMX type of nigga.
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SPEAKER_06: Dang.
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SPEAKER_06: They watch him go through everybody.
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SPEAKER_11: He probably looked at his girl a little too hard.
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SPEAKER_11: Well, no, he wasn't with a girl.
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SPEAKER_07: Shiggy show was there.
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SPEAKER_07: So we thought he was Shiggy's security at first.
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SPEAKER_07: Because he was standing like right by where Shiggy was, and then Darry says, Oh, that's Shiggy.
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SPEAKER_07: And then Shiggy started getting a little nervous.
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SPEAKER_07: There's a bunch of black guys you don't know talking about him.
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SPEAKER_07: Right.
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SPEAKER_07: And then that dude just went to Navy SEAL mode.
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SPEAKER_07: He's talking to this motherfucker.
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SPEAKER_06: The crazy part is, so I stopped on the side of Fat Tuesday and I post up.
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SPEAKER_12: How ironic.
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SPEAKER_12: Was it Tuesday?
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unknown: No.
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SPEAKER_06: No, it was Friday.
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SPEAKER_12: Okay.
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SPEAKER_06: Was it Friday?
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SPEAKER_06: Was that the first day?
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SPEAKER_06: No, it was Friday.
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SPEAKER_06: Friday.
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SPEAKER_06: So I pull up to the side, I'm like, and I'm just waiting.
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SPEAKER_06: Like he's then he stops right next to me.
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SPEAKER_06: So I go, I look at AJ, I go, yo, why the fuck is this nigga fucking follow me?
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SPEAKER_07: Mind you, he didn't ask the guy that.
4:04
SPEAKER_07: He asked me that.
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SPEAKER_07: So the guy could hear him ask me that.
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SPEAKER_12: Oh, okay.
4:07
SPEAKER_12: And then the nigga's like, one of those passive pussy moves.
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SPEAKER_06: The nigga looks at me, I'm not following.
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SPEAKER_06: I'm like, yes, you are.
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SPEAKER_06: What the fuck?
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SPEAKER_06: And he's like, oh no, no, I'm not here for that.
4:17
SPEAKER_07: So then I went up to this nigga.
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SPEAKER_07: I was like, listen, you I know you want to eat him alive right now, but please, we are trying to enjoy our weekend.
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SPEAKER_07: And then he hit him with a sinister smile, and then that was it.
4:28
SPEAKER_06: Then we get into the spot.
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SPEAKER_06: Ironically, he walks into the spot, bumps me out the way, and starts frolicking, breaking, I don't know what the fuck the nigga pop looks like pop block in front of me, and I'm just like, this nigga really wants to fight.
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SPEAKER_12: Nah, that nigga was on K2.
4:42
SPEAKER_06: He was on something.
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SPEAKER_06: He was on one block.
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SPEAKER_12: He was on K2 and four loco, nigga.
4:45
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
4:45
SPEAKER_06: He liked you.
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SPEAKER_07: You was trying to find out if you were in the closet with him.
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SPEAKER_07: I just wouldn't go to Miami if it was a good thing.
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SPEAKER_07: Florida people different work because I felt like I was in New York.
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SPEAKER_07: But it was hot.
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SPEAKER_07: Like that was only different.
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SPEAKER_07: We went to clubs, and I was gonna, I thought we were gonna be the like nah like that.
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SPEAKER_07: No, not human hot.
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SPEAKER_12: And you went there for Miami Carnival, you said, right?
5:01
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_12: So I just want to say shouts to all of the women who've been to Miami at least 10 times, but their kid hasn't been to Disney once.
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SPEAKER_12: Shout outs to you guys.
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SPEAKER_10: Dad, yeah, that's a good shout out.
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SPEAKER_10: I don't know them personally.
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SPEAKER_12: There's a lot of them, trust me.
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SPEAKER_12: You know my time.
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SPEAKER_10: Ran past all of them, AK.
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SPEAKER_12: You see, you're not on IG.
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SPEAKER_12: There's a lot of that shit on IG.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay, that makes sense.
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SPEAKER_06: Back to school photos, stuffing at Disney.
5:22
SPEAKER_07: I get it.
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SPEAKER_06: But yeah, we went into spots, and it's like they wasn't even big enough Miami.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it was like, it's New York in the building.
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SPEAKER_06: I thought it was gonna be the only name.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, then they went through the whole boroughs, and it's like everybody in these faces was from New York.
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SPEAKER_06: He had another embarrassing moment.
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SPEAKER_07: The DJ uh the whole crowd boo him at one point.
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SPEAKER_09: Damn.
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SPEAKER_07: They played the song Uproar.
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SPEAKER_07: Okay.
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SPEAKER_07: Porcho.
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SPEAKER_07: He was trying to get Jiggy.
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SPEAKER_07: And they were like, oh, DJ was like, yo, is anybody feeling this?
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SPEAKER_07: And it was like, boo.
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SPEAKER_07: Then he restarted the song to give him another child.
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SPEAKER_07: Right.
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SPEAKER_07: And he did it again.
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SPEAKER_07: It didn't work.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I I I was a little intoxicated.
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SPEAKER_06: He let the team down.
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SPEAKER_12: That nigga said, okay, you know what?
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SPEAKER_06: I don't know why I didn't.
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SPEAKER_12: So that didn't get a reaction the first time.
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SPEAKER_12: Let me do, let me try it again.
6:04
SPEAKER_12: Alright, go ahead.
6:05
SPEAKER_12: Failed.
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SPEAKER_12: Horrible.
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SPEAKER_07: We ran into a lot of celebrities.
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SPEAKER_07: They don't have security out there.
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SPEAKER_07: Like they just had no security.
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SPEAKER_06: Walk around.
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SPEAKER_06: They walk around with no security, but big ass motherfuckers.
6:13
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, obviously.
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SPEAKER_10: Like, listen, everybody in Florida got guns anyway.
6:17
SPEAKER_10: No, I think that's what it was.
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SPEAKER_10: Like, if we gonna get shot, we're gonna get shot.
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SPEAKER_10: Fuck it.
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SPEAKER_07: But yeah, it was cool.
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SPEAKER_07: It was just New York again.
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SPEAKER_07: But yeah, that was pretty much the extent of the trip.
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SPEAKER_07: What did you guys do while we weren't here?
6:30
SPEAKER_10: We wept.
6:31
SPEAKER_10: We had uh nothing to do on a Sunday, nothing to complain about.
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SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I cried a little bit.
6:39
SPEAKER_16: Died a little bit inside.
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SPEAKER_16: I can't remember what we did.
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SPEAKER_16: We did we go to brunch?
6:42
SPEAKER_16: Yeah.
6:43
SPEAKER_07: So do you guys want to um talk about this guy and his uh affinity for killing small animals?
6:49
SPEAKER_12: You know what?
6:49
SPEAKER_06: I thought about that and I apologize to all the listeners that now look at me at a serial killer.
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SPEAKER_10: No, he he he apologizes to his fucking innocent um pets that he was lying about.
7:00
SPEAKER_10: I wasn't weak.
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SPEAKER_10: Listen, alright, alright.
7:02
SPEAKER_10: We're not gonna say I was lying.
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SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna say I am sorry.
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SPEAKER_06: I was young, stupid, and dumb.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's not the right thing to do, and I apologize.
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SPEAKER_06: I will soon become a feminist like AG.
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SPEAKER_12: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_12: We're not gonna we're not gonna try to divert the attention, you animal killing motherfucker.
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unknown: It's never gonna quite work out over there.
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SPEAKER_12: Jesus Christ.
7:29
SPEAKER_12: Um anyways, let's get into topics, everybody.
7:33
SPEAKER_07: I kind of want to start off with a fight.
7:35
SPEAKER_12: Because that was like the first thing I kind of speaking of a fight, Sir Chubbs, get the fuck away from me before I fight you.
7:41
SPEAKER_10: This is this is Ace, and I'm upset because I didn't do my homework before I endorsed uh McGregor.
7:47
SPEAKER_10: Oh, no, that's the thing.
7:48
SPEAKER_10: A lot of people didn't do their fucking homework.
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SPEAKER_12: Homework.
7:50
SPEAKER_12: Well, can can I can I just say, and I think that Ace can um vouch for me, I did say, as long as it's on their feet, I'm giving Connor the edge.
8:01
SPEAKER_12: But if it goes to the ground, I'm giving Khabib the edge.
8:04
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so for those of you that don't know, Connor McGregor lost to an undefeated fighter.
8:09
SPEAKER_07: Like people don't realize that this nigga never lost a fight.
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SPEAKER_07: The Khabib guy.
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SPEAKER_07: He's now 27-07-0.
8:14
SPEAKER_12: After the uh McGregor win, made him submit uh in the fourth round.
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SPEAKER_07: Like a bitch.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: Didn't Kahib used to fight bears.
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SPEAKER_02: Khabib?
8:23
SPEAKER_02: No, we can call him whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: There's there's no facts on this.
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SPEAKER_02: Khabib, Kahib.
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SPEAKER_00: Khib Nurgomenum.
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SPEAKER_02: I heard that he used to wrestle bears when he was younger.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm pretty sure he could take down anybody.
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SPEAKER_02: They have little, they have videos.
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SPEAKER_02: It's actually really cute though.
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SPEAKER_07: It's his pet.
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SPEAKER_07: We all see the revenant.
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SPEAKER_10: That's not cute.
8:39
SPEAKER_10: That's called training your child from a young age.
8:42
SPEAKER_11: So if I this is what we getting your child ready for war.
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SPEAKER_10: Exactly what the bear used to do to him is exactly what he did to McGregor.
8:50
SPEAKER_10: So let me ask you a question.
8:51
SPEAKER_10: So if I was fighting the cats, oh my god, would I be going?
8:54
SPEAKER_12: Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
8:56
SPEAKER_12: We're not gonna do the body size.
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SPEAKER_16: Like that bear was bigger than him.
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SPEAKER_16: Hold on.
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SPEAKER_12: We're not gonna do the training.
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SPEAKER_12: No! No, no, let's.
9:05
SPEAKER_12: Nah, let's.
9:07
SPEAKER_07: What was he training?
9:08
SPEAKER_07: What were you training for?
9:09
SPEAKER_07: Alright.
9:09
SPEAKER_07: I was training boxes that you've been doing.
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SPEAKER_07: What the fuck are you training for?
9:13
SPEAKER_10: I'm your friend now, Chubbs, right?
9:14
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
9:15
SPEAKER_10: Now I see you come to the point where you achieved the level that you can handle something bigger than a pussy cat.
9:20
SPEAKER_10: Now I'm gonna put you in a fucking cage with a goddamn leopard.
9:23
unknown: Okay.
9:24
SPEAKER_10: Now let's see if you throw that leopard over the motherfucking uh back.
9:27
SPEAKER_06: You can't get that far.
9:28
SPEAKER_10: So what I'm saying, are you willing to take the challenge?
9:31
SPEAKER_10: I'll take the challenge.
9:32
SPEAKER_10: But I might run like a little bitch.
9:34
SPEAKER_10: I'm just saying.
9:34
SPEAKER_10: I'm just saying.
9:35
SPEAKER_10: We get up to any if you really believe in yourself that way.
9:38
SPEAKER_07: So McGregor ended up losing by submission and fourth round.
9:42
SPEAKER_07: It was a big deal because of the aftermath.
9:44
unknown: Yeah.
9:45
SPEAKER_08: Honestly.
9:45
SPEAKER_06: Which I don't blame him.
9:47
SPEAKER_06: Who don't you?
9:48
SPEAKER_06: I don't blame Kabib.
9:49
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
9:49
SPEAKER_06: Because at the same fact, for jumping over the toping over the cage.
9:54
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
9:54
SPEAKER_06: Okay, there you go, right.
9:56
SPEAKER_06: Go ahead.
9:56
SPEAKER_12: Alright, so fourth round, uh, Kabib has McGregor in a rear neck crank.
10:04
SPEAKER_12: They called it a rear-necked chokehold.
10:06
SPEAKER_12: However, I don't think his arm was actually under his neck.
10:08
SPEAKER_12: It was just more so on his chin during a neck crank.
10:11
SPEAKER_12: So anyway, besides the fact.
10:15
SPEAKER_12: After uh Connor taps, the ref actually had to separate him from Connor because he didn't want to relinquish the hold.
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SPEAKER_12: Um shortly after that, um Kabib started uh you know exchanging words with uh the people outside in McGregor's corner, uh his jujitsu coach Dylan Dallas um Dylan Dannis and his uh his other coach uh pardon me, I forgot his name.
10:42
SPEAKER_12: And uh what happened was uh allegedly what's being alleged by Kabib's corner is that uh Dylan Dennis uh made some racist remarks towards him.
10:53
SPEAKER_12: Um that's what that's what uh got Kabib to jump over the top and attack him Eagle Foot style.
11:01
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, with the that was funny because it's funny because that's his nickname, the Eagle.
11:06
SPEAKER_12: So he literally flew out.
11:07
SPEAKER_12: Um but I think Dennis connected with uh with a right hand or so, whatever.
11:12
SPEAKER_12: But the whole situation was diffused very uh quickly.
11:16
SPEAKER_12: Now, while that was going on outside the ring and we have security flocked outside the ring, you had two people from Kabib's corner enter the ring and attack McGregor.
11:27
SPEAKER_07: Um I third.
11:29
SPEAKER_07: From behind McGregor threw the first punch at one of Kabib's people.
11:34
SPEAKER_12: No, what happened was Kabib's uh one of the people from his corner was over, you know, over the top, like either lunging that kind of make, you know, trying to kick him, no.
11:43
SPEAKER_12: I think he was trying to punch him and kind of uh exchange it.
11:47
SPEAKER_12: Exchange.
11:47
SPEAKER_12: So now there was another person who jumped who jumped in the uh octagon as well.
11:52
SPEAKER_12: Who actually tried to attack McGregor, but he reacted before he can get hit.
11:58
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
11:58
SPEAKER_10: No, that person that came from behind him actually struck him before he was in the ring.
12:02
SPEAKER_12: That's another person.
12:03
SPEAKER_12: There was two people.
12:07
SPEAKER_12: There were three people.
12:07
SPEAKER_12: There was one who was over the top, then there was two who entered.
12:11
SPEAKER_12: One who connected with him, the one in the red shirt, then there was one in the gray shirt who made an attempt to go at him, but kind of hit him uh before he could attack.
12:21
SPEAKER_10: The dude that came from behind straight line side.
12:25
SPEAKER_10: I want to give you the thing.
12:26
SPEAKER_12: That was that that was that was a closed hand punch to the back of the head.
12:29
SPEAKER_12: No, no.
12:30
SPEAKER_12: Can we go further?
12:31
SPEAKER_06: Can we go further back before that?
12:33
SPEAKER_12: Okay, but what I'm just what I'm just saying, he asked me to explain what happened.
12:36
SPEAKER_06: I know, I'm just saying, can we can we take a step further before?
12:39
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so that that's what happened.
12:41
SPEAKER_12: That's the big melee after the match that everyone's talking about.
12:45
SPEAKER_12: So go ahead, sir Chubbs, bring it to your point.
12:47
SPEAKER_06: So I was gonna say it also went further back to when McGregor was throwing stuff at their bus.
12:52
SPEAKER_12: He he's you're referring to the incident, the press conference at the Barclays Center um a few months back where McGregor entered the Barclays Arena with uh his entourage and he threw a dolly at the bus um that Kabi was on, injuring a couple of fighters, causing them to, you know, miss out on their fights and you know suffer and sustain injuries as well.
13:14
SPEAKER_10: So nonetheless, there's a time and place to conduct yourself in a certain fashion.
13:19
SPEAKER_07: I want to ask you guys if you think what's going on after after the aftermath is fair, because McGregor has got his money, he got his purse.
13:28
SPEAKER_07: Uh-huh.
13:28
SPEAKER_07: It could be paid at all.
13:31
SPEAKER_07: I heard he's peoples, nobody may not be citizens.
13:36
SPEAKER_07: Right.
13:37
SPEAKER_07: They don't work visas type shit.
13:38
SPEAKER_10: Visas may be uh revolt.
13:42
SPEAKER_12: But here but here's the thing.
13:45
SPEAKER_12: Here's the thing.
13:48
SPEAKER_12: But this is uh franchise.
13:49
SPEAKER_12: But the f as far as the franchise, I'm gonna let I'm gonna say this Dana White and the UFC, they're not going to they're not gonna punish Kabir.
13:57
SPEAKER_12: Oh, I got one.
13:58
SPEAKER_12: The Las Vegas commission uh are the ones who are reacting because this was a sanctioned fight in Las Vegas.
14:05
SPEAKER_12: So they're gonna do most likely what they did to Tyson when he bit Holyfield, which was take 10% of his perks.
14:11
SPEAKER_07: I got another point to make.
14:12
SPEAKER_07: Um one of the guys that ended up squaring off on McGregor was also a fighter.
14:16
SPEAKER_07: Right.
14:16
SPEAKER_07: And they are talking about Kabib said, mind you, this nigga is 27 and oh.
14:22
SPEAKER_07: He's arguably not that he beat the biggest fighter that they got, he gotta be at least top five in terms of draw now, because he beat the number one fighter that the UFC has currently.
14:31
SPEAKER_07: And he said, I'm not fighting.
14:33
SPEAKER_07: I'll quit.
14:34
SPEAKER_07: You find my brother, I'm out of here.
14:36
SPEAKER_07: So what is Dana Donna?
14:39
SPEAKER_07: Dana White.
14:39
SPEAKER_07: Dana White?
14:40
SPEAKER_07: What does Donna White do?
14:42
SPEAKER_07: He just doesn't want to refer to him as a feminine.
14:44
SPEAKER_06: What is he doing?
14:46
SPEAKER_06: I feel like now his back's against the wall and he's gonna be on that shit.
14:49
SPEAKER_06: His back's not against the wall.
14:50
SPEAKER_10: Why does McGregor be against the wall?
14:52
SPEAKER_10: Let me say this because McGregor is the businessman in the situation.
14:55
SPEAKER_12: McGregor's the biggest draw.
14:56
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
14:56
SPEAKER_10: Not even that.
14:58
SPEAKER_10: McGregor is the reason why we're speaking about any of this.
15:00
SPEAKER_10: He's the biggest draw.
15:01
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
15:02
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
15:04
SPEAKER_10: But that's just uh say making a vague statement on it.
15:06
SPEAKER_10: It's a big thing.
15:08
SPEAKER_12: He's the UFC, he's the cash cow of the UFC.
15:10
SPEAKER_10: Should be John Jones, that's a different story.
15:12
SPEAKER_12: Right.
15:12
SPEAKER_10: I listen, John Jones is a fucking I agree with you on that, but he's the mouthpiece that's able to draw, he's the Kanye right now.
15:20
SPEAKER_12: Who the fuck is that guy?
15:21
SPEAKER_12: Like all of this shit.
15:23
SPEAKER_12: He created he generated the largest fight in history with Floyd Mayweather.
15:28
SPEAKER_12: But we're so generated too.
15:29
SPEAKER_10: He's generated such a following have his own.
15:34
SPEAKER_12: Floyd was retired.
15:34
SPEAKER_12: Floyd wanted to pay to see Floyd Mayor.
15:37
SPEAKER_12: Okay, they paid to flee, but you gotta understand at that time it was nobody in boxing.
15:42
SPEAKER_12: There's nobody in boxing that Floyd would have gotten that type of money for at that time.
15:48
SPEAKER_12: So so at that point, McGregor was the biggest draw.
15:51
SPEAKER_12: That's a very good thing.
15:52
SPEAKER_12: He was the A side the A side.
15:54
SPEAKER_12: And what a lot of people didn't realize, if you watch boxing, if you watch Floyd Mayweather fights, Floyd Mayweather didn't have to sell this fight, sell that fight because McGregor did.
16:04
SPEAKER_12: So he just sat back and collected a paycheck.
16:07
SPEAKER_12: So McGregor was the biggest was the biggest uh cash cow now.
16:11
SPEAKER_07: Just to you know, backtrack a little bit.
16:12
SPEAKER_10: How do you guys feel, you know?
16:15
SPEAKER_10: So um I uh I I understand um them holding his purse and everybody on Khabib's team uh not paying them a possibly two million dollars and possibly uh letting them know like yo you you're never gonna fight for UFC.
16:28
SPEAKER_10: You wanna do that?
16:30
SPEAKER_10: You wanna know why?
16:31
SPEAKER_10: You wanna know why?
16:31
SPEAKER_10: Because to have ultimate fighting as a thing to be able to watch, like that took a lot of time.
16:38
SPEAKER_10: That took a lot of time, a lot of licensing, a lot of struggle, a lot of security, a lot of money spent to make people feel like it's gonna be a secure event.
16:45
SPEAKER_10: I think it's a good idea.
16:45
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, because because UFC wasn't even allowed in New York until a little while ago.
16:50
SPEAKER_10: It took a lot for UFC to be a to be able to do what it does.
16:53
SPEAKER_10: But I think this was good for the sport though.
16:55
SPEAKER_10: What's what was good for school situation with Chris?
16:58
SPEAKER_10: Oh absolutely, but you can't have the audience feeling like they're gonna be hurt.
17:01
SPEAKER_12: But you see, here's the but but you but you see, can can can I can I can I can I jump into that real quick?
17:06
SPEAKER_12: And here's why I don't think things have to look like they're in control.
17:10
SPEAKER_12: Here's why I don't think that it's a here's why I don't feel it's a big deal because this was not a similar situ a similar situation to Ronald Test in the crowd.
17:20
SPEAKER_12: No fans were hurt.
17:21
SPEAKER_12: No fans were the targets.
17:23
SPEAKER_10: So who was he pummeling in the crowd?
17:25
SPEAKER_10: That was people in Conor McGregor's corner.
17:27
SPEAKER_10: That's Dylan Dennis.
17:29
SPEAKER_10: I was talking about Nigga, talking to the mic number one.
17:32
SPEAKER_10: No, I was talking about your reference.
17:34
SPEAKER_10: What?
17:35
SPEAKER_10: Who'd you reference?
17:36
SPEAKER_10: Who'd you the nigga that he mentioned?
17:38
SPEAKER_07: Uh they're all Dylan Dennis?
17:40
SPEAKER_10: No, Ronald's best.
17:41
SPEAKER_10: Ronald Tess target a fan.
17:43
SPEAKER_10: Ronald Tess was fighting fans.
17:45
SPEAKER_10: Oh, I thought you were saying he wasn't hitting a fan.
17:46
SPEAKER_10: No, no, no.
17:47
SPEAKER_12: He was he was he deliberately went into the crowd to fuck up fans.
17:50
SPEAKER_07: N words was flying that night.
17:52
SPEAKER_12: So, no, let me let me finish though.
17:53
SPEAKER_12: So when you sit there and you go into the sport of UFC, these are fighters targeting fighters.
17:58
SPEAKER_12: It's different.
17:59
SPEAKER_12: And what the fuck really happened?
18:01
SPEAKER_12: Someone jumped over the fucking top of the big deal.
18:04
SPEAKER_12: More damage was done by Conor McGregor at the Barclay Center.
18:08
SPEAKER_12: And he didn't receive, and nothing happened to him.
18:10
SPEAKER_12: He's dealing with criminal shit and civil suits, but as far as suspension, he never got suspended.
18:16
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
18:16
SPEAKER_12: That's exactly what Kabib said too.
18:19
SPEAKER_12: And listen, okay, granted, no purse was held because it wasn't.
18:23
SPEAKER_12: Because it didn't happen.
18:26
SPEAKER_12: But whatever, whatever the fucking situation is, I think that it's going to be swept under the rug, and I think that this is just going to be buildup to a rematch that's going to fucking happen.
18:37
SPEAKER_02: McGregor's coach supposedly wants leniency on the question.
18:42
SPEAKER_12: Everyone deserves leniency because McGregor got uh, you know.
18:46
SPEAKER_06: Because when I was at work, somebody's was a lot of people was arguing that it was a setup for everything to go the similar way because of all the beef was going on.
18:56
SPEAKER_06: And it just looks age.
18:57
SPEAKER_12: Well, it was it was allegedly um a planned attack from people in uh Kabib's corner that they were gonna attack, that they're gonna No.
19:10
SPEAKER_06: Because what a lot of people were saying, like a lot of people at my job were saying, think about the fight before that when the guy took his pants off.
19:16
SPEAKER_06: What did he say?
19:18
SPEAKER_12: My balls were hot?
19:19
SPEAKER_06: No, not even that.
19:20
SPEAKER_06: When he said Donald Trump sent me to fuck up Russian motherfuckers.
19:26
SPEAKER_12: They're just talking about the uh verbiage whole setup to core.
19:32
SPEAKER_12: I could I could have I could halfway believe I could halfway believe racist.
19:37
SPEAKER_12: I could halfway believe that if Conor McGregor was representing the United States, he's representing Ireland.
19:42
SPEAKER_12: Completely fucking different.
19:44
SPEAKER_12: It doesn't exist.
19:45
SPEAKER_07: The niggers of Europe.
19:46
SPEAKER_12: Basically.
19:48
unknown: That's racist.
19:49
SPEAKER_12: It is what it is.
19:50
SPEAKER_07: That was a book.
19:51
SPEAKER_07: That was a book titled that in this library right around the corner.
19:54
SPEAKER_07: That's the first time I've seen that.
19:55
SPEAKER_12: So uh Hey, what's what's what's what's what's what's what's an Irish three course what's an Irish three-course meal?
20:01
SPEAKER_12: Potatoes?
20:02
SPEAKER_12: Potato in a six-pack, man.
20:03
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, they're like ethnic white people.
20:05
SPEAKER_07: I forgot the six-pack part.
20:06
SPEAKER_07: And they're all cops now, so be careful.
20:08
SPEAKER_07: So um it's all fair in love and war, because I feel like the whole Khib thing, like people are, you know.
20:14
SPEAKER_12: They're take they're dragging it.
20:16
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so I'm not sure.
20:16
SPEAKER_12: No one was fucking hurt.
20:18
SPEAKER_07: I just want to wrap the whole thing up.
20:19
SPEAKER_07: Whose side are we on in this in this whole exchange?
20:22
SPEAKER_07: I'm on Kab.
20:22
SPEAKER_12: I'm on I'm on the side of the side.
20:23
SPEAKER_10: I'm on UFC side.
20:25
SPEAKER_10: UFC side, because uh they're they're both they're both just pawns.
20:29
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
20:29
SPEAKER_10: That this is all just making money.
20:31
SPEAKER_10: I just hope that uh Kabib Kab.
20:33
SPEAKER_07: You're on Donna White's side.
20:34
SPEAKER_10: Dana White?
20:35
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
20:36
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, uh, I'm on I'm on Dana White side.
20:38
SPEAKER_10: Whatever he has to do to protect to protect the company, but at the same time, I don't think Kabib should be penalized or his purse withheld for anything.
20:47
SPEAKER_07: 50 Cent offered Kabib his purse to come fight at Bellator, which is like the WNBA.
20:54
SPEAKER_12: Hey, listen, it would draw it it would it would it would draw it would draw um fans and stuff like that.
21:00
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, that's it.
21:01
SPEAKER_12: At the end of the day, people just want to see fighters fight.
21:05
SPEAKER_12: That's it.
21:06
SPEAKER_07: But they want the the shit that comes with it though, the trash this is what I think.
21:10
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because that fight, that's like the post-fight shit was more entertaining.
21:12
SPEAKER_07: It is at this point.
21:13
SPEAKER_07: Boxing is dead as fuck because there's no brass shit talking heavy.
21:17
SPEAKER_12: Unless you're watching is Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury back and forth.
21:21
SPEAKER_06: But that's what I'm saying.
21:22
SPEAKER_06: There's only two of them, so it's not the same.
21:23
SPEAKER_06: The heavyweight division is fucking hard.
21:25
SPEAKER_12: Boxing's been dead since Mike Tyson got knocked out by Lennox Lewis.
21:28
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
21:28
SPEAKER_06: I mean, so now everybody's gonna turn to UFC where it's straight, like I would say that's the closest to a street fight you could get.
21:35
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
21:36
SPEAKER_06: That's a crap.
21:36
SPEAKER_06: So that's exactly what everybody wants to see.
21:38
SPEAKER_06: That's another crap before being nominated by blacks.
21:42
SPEAKER_10: There's a lot of action.
21:42
SPEAKER_10: John Bones John.
21:44
SPEAKER_10: There's a lot of action in our movies.
21:45
SPEAKER_10: We don't want to see nobody square up and box.
21:47
SPEAKER_10: We want to see you get suplexed and dropped in your fucking head.
21:50
SPEAKER_06: That's why that's why I didn't really like Mayweather's fight because it's like Mayweather was the type of fight fighter that would play for the cart.
21:57
SPEAKER_06: No, I want to see you knock a motherfucker out.
22:01
SPEAKER_12: Boxing is a technical sport.
22:03
SPEAKER_12: And you know what?
22:05
SPEAKER_12: As much as everyone may dislike Floyd Mayweather.
22:09
SPEAKER_07: He's a goat.
22:10
SPEAKER_12: Boxing wise, technically wise, he's the most technically sound boxer.
22:15
SPEAKER_12: It's not even close.
22:22
SPEAKER_12: And he can't read.
22:23
SPEAKER_12: Now, this is true.
22:25
SPEAKER_12: Now he can read it just back to him.
22:27
SPEAKER_12: He can't read.
22:28
SPEAKER_12: I can't say his name.
22:29
SPEAKER_06: He's dyslexic.
22:31
SPEAKER_12: And you know, and this is also, you know, to go back to the who was the bigger draw at the time, um, him or Connor McGregor.
22:38
SPEAKER_12: You gotta realize Floyd has been fighting for 20 years to get$100 million a fight.
22:43
SPEAKER_12: You know what I'm saying?
22:44
SPEAKER_12: Connor's been fighting for how many years to get that same shit.
22:47
SPEAKER_07: But it's just like how you can look at hip hop the same way, like fucking Africa bombarding these niggas, they didn't make a million dollars in their whole career.
22:54
SPEAKER_07: And then you got somebody like Lil Punk, he's making more money than these guys have ever seen in their life.
22:58
SPEAKER_07: So I think it's about the times then.
23:00
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I mean, ti time too, but also, you know, like just I'm talking about who is the person at the top, like who is the on on the top performer at the time, or I'm sorry, the A card in that, you know, situation.
23:13
SPEAKER_12: Like I said, uh Mayweather was in retirement to come out to fight.
23:17
SPEAKER_07: So McGregor's definitely the biggest draw.
23:20
SPEAKER_07: Can you say that he's the biggest draw in combat sports right now?
23:22
SPEAKER_12: Right now, absolutely.
23:23
SPEAKER_07: He's bigger than Deontay?
23:25
SPEAKER_12: Right now, yeah.
23:26
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
23:26
SPEAKER_12: Is did Deontay Wilde uh get$100 million to fight?
23:29
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
23:29
SPEAKER_12: No.
23:30
SPEAKER_06: So then let me ask you a question.
23:32
SPEAKER_06: What do you think brought him to that?
23:34
SPEAKER_06: Is it the shit token and uh no whole balls and not giving a fight?
23:40
SPEAKER_07: And the sport.
23:41
SPEAKER_07: Because in UFC, that is a very brutal sport.
23:45
SPEAKER_07: And we in boxing, the the complaint is there's not enough knockouts for casual fans.
23:49
SPEAKER_07: Casual fans want to see uh knockouts.
23:51
SPEAKER_07: In the UFC, it's always a knockout.
23:53
SPEAKER_07: It's always a knockout.
23:54
SPEAKER_07: There's blood everywhere, and I think that's what the what sells him.
23:57
SPEAKER_07: And he's a white guy talking shit, dressing fly, tattoos, humble story.
24:02
SPEAKER_07: He didn't come from money, like people can relate to him, and number and it's a cracker sport.
24:06
SPEAKER_07: And then who does who do the crackers have right now that they can say that yo, we can champion behind this guy?
24:10
SPEAKER_07: Who's the great white hope right now in any sport?
24:12
unknown: Eminem.
24:14
SPEAKER_07: I just really remember.
24:15
SPEAKER_06: I just wonder who is his shit talking and him not giving a fuck what he said.
24:19
SPEAKER_06: Because when he said that shit about Mayweather, it's like, oh, this nigga don't give a fuck.
24:24
SPEAKER_07: This nigga can't read.
24:25
SPEAKER_07: He didn't say anything.
24:26
SPEAKER_07: He said he might have called you nigga, but he didn't call Mayweather.
24:30
SPEAKER_12: Listen, at the end of the day, you have to realize that it's a testosterone fueled sport.
24:39
SPEAKER_07: Okay, I I don't agree with that.
24:40
SPEAKER_12: What do you mean?
24:41
SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of women that fight really well.
24:44
SPEAKER_12: Wait a minute.
24:47
SPEAKER_12: I'm talking it's a testosterone fueled thing.
24:49
SPEAKER_12: Meaning both fighters, the fighters.
24:54
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, there's a lot of women fighters.
24:56
SPEAKER_07: That are fueled by testosterone.
24:59
SPEAKER_07: And a little bit of testosterone.
25:00
SPEAKER_07: Okay, Ronald.
25:01
SPEAKER_07: Just a little bit.
25:02
SPEAKER_07: Have you seen cyborgs?
25:06
SPEAKER_12: Listen.
25:06
SPEAKER_12: Okay, okay.
25:07
SPEAKER_12: I'm gonna I'm gonna put it to you like this.
25:08
SPEAKER_07: Remember, I'm a feminist.
25:10
SPEAKER_12: And I am a feminist as well.
25:12
SPEAKER_12: So um it's like the d the MBA and the WNBA.
25:17
SPEAKER_07: If they was playing in lingerie, if we was playing in lingerie.
25:20
SPEAKER_07: If the WNBA was playing in lingerie.
25:23
SPEAKER_12: Bro, we you're getting off topic here.
25:25
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
25:25
SPEAKER_12: You're getting off topic.
25:26
SPEAKER_12: Like I said, it's a sport fueled by testosterone.
25:29
SPEAKER_12: Fair.
25:29
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
25:31
SPEAKER_12: And these are fighters.
25:33
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
25:33
SPEAKER_12: That's what they do.
25:34
SPEAKER_12: So it's a fucking combat sport.
25:37
SPEAKER_12: Like and and and and thank you for taking me so far, of course.
25:41
SPEAKER_12: You made me lose my fucking train of thought.
25:43
SPEAKER_07: And that's how this works.
25:44
SPEAKER_07: So that's how this dynamic works.
25:47
SPEAKER_07: So, y'all want to go into some ratchet shit or y'all wanna be a little serious?
25:51
SPEAKER_07: We can go ratchet.
25:52
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
25:52
SPEAKER_07: We have a lot of ratchet topics, actually.
25:54
SPEAKER_07: Ratchet.
25:54
SPEAKER_07: That didn't really help me at all.
25:58
SPEAKER_07: I want to oh, since we owe current shit.
26:00
SPEAKER_07: You guys want to talk about Quavo and uh Nicki Minaj's uh rendezvous?
26:05
SPEAKER_07: Fill me in, brother man.
26:06
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so I don't know if you guys First off, does anyone give a fuck about Quavo and Nicki Minaj?
26:11
SPEAKER_07: Um I just think it's a little interesting.
26:14
SPEAKER_07: It's good to touch on, yeah.
26:15
SPEAKER_07: It's a little interesting.
26:17
SPEAKER_07: No, no, I don't think anybody should listen to that album.
26:19
SPEAKER_07: It's not that good.
26:20
SPEAKER_07: Whose album?
26:20
SPEAKER_07: Quavo's album.
26:21
SPEAKER_07: Why?
26:23
SPEAKER_07: Alright, what was your best album?
26:23
SPEAKER_07: Why?
26:24
SPEAKER_07: What was the best song in the album?
26:25
SPEAKER_06: I don't remember.
26:25
SPEAKER_06: The whole album was good.
26:26
SPEAKER_06: Because I was bumping that shit in my car on the way to work.
26:28
SPEAKER_07: Like, ooh, it's not a little bit of a little bit of a little straight song.
26:30
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's a it's a long album.
26:32
SPEAKER_07: The 19th straight broke biggest alley oop.
26:34
SPEAKER_07: Ancho Dreams, flame Nicki Minaj.
26:37
SPEAKER_07: So it was a diss.
26:38
SPEAKER_07: It was.
26:39
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so I'm packing.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: That he has sex with her and shit.
26:42
SPEAKER_07: So explain to us why it was a disc number one.
26:44
SPEAKER_07: So it was a ret.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh go ahead.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I was just gonna add that in the listening party he had like this little skit of um sort of mo like this little parody skit mocking Nicki Minaj, like a video that um of her skit that she did on IG when she received the Chanel bags and like she was, you know, she was like, oh my god, blah blah blah.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: But he had that parody skit um during his listening party.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: So mocking her.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: Because supposedly he gave her those two Chanel bags.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: Supposedly.
27:10
SPEAKER_07: Supposedly.
27:11
SPEAKER_07: And okay, so why do you think it's it is quite blatantly it's it is lyrical?
27:17
SPEAKER_07: The lyrics, yeah.
27:18
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so it was a rebuttal, it was track three, right?
27:20
SPEAKER_07: Which also track three on Nicki Minaj's album was the same thing.
27:23
SPEAKER_07: It was Barbie Dream.
27:25
SPEAKER_07: So I mean they kind of synchronized a little bit there.
27:27
SPEAKER_07: They've said off and on the track that their friends are close and she was like hurt by the fact that he didn't side with her and stuff like that.
27:34
SPEAKER_07: So I don't understand how it's necessarily a disc because that's going against home team at that point.
27:39
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, was Barbie Dream's a disc?
27:40
SPEAKER_12: No, no, I'm talking about like she's she's upset because he didn't side with her.
27:44
SPEAKER_12: Like, that's going against home team.
27:46
SPEAKER_12: Like my man's, my brother who I came up with, like you're going against his lady, so it's like technically to the same, you know.
27:54
SPEAKER_12: It's it's like you gotta play that at a certain distance, like, you know.
27:58
SPEAKER_12: That's just my uh point of view.
28:00
SPEAKER_12: So as far as siding with her, I mean it's I think it's only logical that he didn't.
28:04
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
28:04
SPEAKER_06: Is that because if I got a lady and she got to some shit, who you siding with?
28:08
SPEAKER_12: Bro's overhos, nigga, bros over hoes.
28:09
SPEAKER_07: Who am I gonna side with?
28:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, my side are you finding with the opponent?
28:12
SPEAKER_07: Well, what reason would I have to side with the opponent though?
28:15
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
28:16
SPEAKER_06: Because you fuck with me.
28:18
SPEAKER_07: I'm asking you what incentive?
28:20
SPEAKER_07: There's an incentive in this specific case.
28:22
SPEAKER_07: Okay, let's say you're in the same situation.
28:24
SPEAKER_07: As Quavo?
28:25
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
28:25
SPEAKER_07: Um You're gonna side with me.
28:27
SPEAKER_06: A friend who's a girl.
28:28
SPEAKER_07: A friend who's a girl.
28:30
SPEAKER_07: Um, I would have to side with you, but if it's a situation like Nicki Minaj can take me to a level and a plateau that you can't do for me right now, I would ask you, like, yo, bro, like, let me go over here and get this bag as a friend.
28:42
SPEAKER_07: Like, you're not gonna let me go get this bag.
28:43
SPEAKER_07: This is all smoke and mirrors, anyways.
28:44
SPEAKER_07: Let me go fuck with Nicki real fast.
28:46
SPEAKER_16: But they're in a group together too, though.
28:47
SPEAKER_07: Listen, I'm not gonna be able to do it.
28:48
SPEAKER_07: So it makes it big.
28:50
SPEAKER_07: He said I was Quavo.
28:51
SPEAKER_07: That makes me the Beyoncé of the Migos.
28:53
SPEAKER_07: That means y'all gotta fall in line.
28:54
SPEAKER_07: Huncho, nigga.
28:56
SPEAKER_07: That's why my name is Huncho.
28:57
SPEAKER_07: At the same time, you're gonna really like compromise your loyalty for money?
29:02
SPEAKER_07: No, but if I'm telling these niggas, if we are in this business, we are business for money.
29:06
SPEAKER_07: How does it look to the public?
29:08
SPEAKER_07: It doesn't matter.
29:09
SPEAKER_07: Why the fuck does the public do it look like I was left off bad movie?
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you have to pass on some deals.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you have to pass on some deals.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: I see OG's talent.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: Nah, but he's saying that he would let you know first that he's gonna fuck with Nicki Minaj for like incentive, like money.
29:24
SPEAKER_06: And if he would have told me that, I couldn't knock it because as long as he could be like, I could bring this bag back, the whole team eat.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: One, they make a lot of money to begin with, so it's like you don't have to accept every deal.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: Stay nickel and dime and everything.
29:38
SPEAKER_07: They're not super duper stars.
29:39
SPEAKER_07: They're on a tour with Drake.
29:41
SPEAKER_07: Drake is not on a tour with them.
29:42
SPEAKER_07: Quick question.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm saying they still have a good amount of money.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: What was it?
29:46
SPEAKER_02: What would Nikki do for them?
29:47
SPEAKER_02: What would Nikki do for them?
29:48
SPEAKER_11: Like for Quavo.
29:49
SPEAKER_11: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
29:51
SPEAKER_14: How many times people haven't sacrificed their sorry their self-esteem just to the way they look, their image, just to get somewhere?
29:58
SPEAKER_12: Have you been properly introduced today?
30:00
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, she's like, Oh, okay, okay.
30:02
SPEAKER_11: I'm smoking, I've been smoking, people don't mind me.
30:04
SPEAKER_07: I get your point, young lady, but like I think you're on my side, actually.
30:09
SPEAKER_07: You're proving the point that if I holler at my homeboy, this is Nikki Minaj.
30:14
SPEAKER_07: She can take me to a level that Cardi B cannot, that nobody else.
30:17
SPEAKER_07: I'm the head, I'm the guy in the Migos.
30:19
SPEAKER_07: I have to lead by example.
30:20
SPEAKER_07: So I would have to spend Quavo.
30:22
SPEAKER_16: But what level is this though?
30:23
SPEAKER_16: What would she do?
30:24
SPEAKER_06: Generational talent.
30:26
SPEAKER_06: You could put me on the group and I'm gonna go all the way back to being the next big group of something like Backstreet Boys.
30:31
SPEAKER_06: Because think about how big Day was in that time and era.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I'm saying they're on a tour with Drake, and who would you say is bigger?
30:37
SPEAKER_02: Nicki or Drake.
30:38
SPEAKER_12: I've never listened to a Backstreet Boys.
30:41
SPEAKER_06: No, KOTO.
30:42
SPEAKER_06: But you gotta think about it.
30:43
SPEAKER_06: If now the tour would have been my tour and Drake's on my tour, then it'd be like, I'm the big ticket.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but then how is Nikki gonna do that for Quavo himself?
30:52
SPEAKER_02: It's fucking with him.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: Look at the Carter movie.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: So you're saying it'll be just a joint tour with him and Quavo?
30:58
SPEAKER_07: I I love Jay-Z, but be but the Beyonce relationship actually gave him probably three more years of quality music.
31:04
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
31:05
SPEAKER_07: Just by being with Beyoncé.
31:07
SPEAKER_07: If I'm Quavo and I'm looking at the writing on the wall, rappers survive.
31:10
SPEAKER_12: It's a hard job.
31:12
SPEAKER_12: Their relationship gave y'all a lemonade.
31:15
SPEAKER_11: Their relationship gave you a 444.
31:18
SPEAKER_12: And and motherfucking The Card of that.
31:20
SPEAKER_11: They gave y'all three albums.
31:21
SPEAKER_11: Their relationship gave him three albums.
31:23
SPEAKER_06: And think about it.
31:24
SPEAKER_06: Just him being on tour, that's a whole different bracket of people that's gonna come.
31:28
SPEAKER_06: All women that only listen to Beyonce.
31:30
SPEAKER_06: Now, if Jay-Z and Beyonce decide to say, okay, I'm gonna bring Destiny Child out on one show.
31:34
SPEAKER_06: You know how much money we're gonna make?
31:36
SPEAKER_06: So that's just to bring it up.
31:37
SPEAKER_12: Now shut up for the fact that Drake brought out Chris Brown.
31:40
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, they squashed their beauty.
31:41
SPEAKER_07: He's squashing all his beats.
31:42
SPEAKER_07: He's squashing all his being.
31:45
SPEAKER_17: It's like this ain't Photoshop.
31:46
SPEAKER_17: This really happens.
31:49
SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm gonna say.
31:50
SPEAKER_12: He's got everybody on his side now.
31:52
SPEAKER_12: As five-star chief of the light skinned delegation, I approve of that.
31:58
SPEAKER_07: Use the word chief, bro.
31:59
SPEAKER_07: I had to catch you.
32:00
SPEAKER_07: So, just to bring the whole conversation full circle.
32:03
SPEAKER_07: You wanna hear the lyrics?
32:05
SPEAKER_07: It's a diss song.
32:06
SPEAKER_12: We're gonna let the round one bring the conversation full circle.
32:10
SPEAKER_07: So you're talking about fucking in the hotel while she cooked Rotello and like.
32:14
SPEAKER_07: First of all, what is Rotello?
32:15
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
32:16
SPEAKER_07: He said Rotel.
32:17
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
32:17
SPEAKER_07: My Nikki really cooked though.
32:19
SPEAKER_07: My point is Probably not.
32:21
SPEAKER_07: My point is You seen the picture.
32:23
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
32:23
SPEAKER_07: So now I don't know what that's true.
32:25
SPEAKER_07: My point is, I don't think it's a diss.
32:28
SPEAKER_07: I think it might be a strategic move.
32:30
SPEAKER_07: Nikki had an opportunity to respond on Queen Radio and She didn't.
32:34
SPEAKER_07: She said I heard her feelings 52 times.
32:36
SPEAKER_07: She's very good.
32:37
SPEAKER_07: Call it the queen, and Queen can't fex on the young bull.
32:39
SPEAKER_07: I made a scream.
32:40
SPEAKER_07: I made a scream.
32:41
SPEAKER_12: For once she took Drake advice.
32:43
SPEAKER_12: She said he don't think advice.
32:45
SPEAKER_12: You know, a wise woman once said nothing at all.
32:47
SPEAKER_06: No, the reason why I feel like she didn't respond is because there's truth involved.
32:51
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
32:52
SPEAKER_06: There's truth involved in the Cardi B shit, too.
32:54
SPEAKER_06: There's proof.
32:54
SPEAKER_06: There's proof, but it's at this.
32:57
SPEAKER_06: Cardi B is here at a lower tier.
32:59
SPEAKER_06: Lower tier than who?
33:00
SPEAKER_06: Quavo.
33:01
SPEAKER_06: Quavo had a better year than Cardi B.
33:04
SPEAKER_06: What?
33:04
SPEAKER_06: She had one year compared to how many years Quavo had.
33:08
SPEAKER_06: But talking about the current fiscal.
33:10
SPEAKER_06: I'm not talking about the yeah, but Quavo is on a bigger platform.
33:13
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
33:14
SPEAKER_06: They're on the same fucking platform.
33:16
SPEAKER_06: No, they're not.
33:17
SPEAKER_06: Yo, Quavo has been on everybody's fucking song.
33:19
SPEAKER_07: What does that have to do with Cardi B having number one records?
33:22
SPEAKER_06: Well, number one records for a year.
33:24
SPEAKER_06: What is she gonna do next year?
33:25
SPEAKER_07: Are you guys talking about net worth?
33:28
SPEAKER_06: That's what he's talking about.
33:31
SPEAKER_06: All of that shit.
33:31
SPEAKER_06: You can talk about all that.
33:32
SPEAKER_06: You got to think about Cardi B with not, I'm telling you, guaranteed next year.
33:36
SPEAKER_07: Who's the number one person on QC right now?
33:39
SPEAKER_07: Lil Baby.
33:41
SPEAKER_07: Okay, he's the hottest artist, but if they're putting the most money into him, that's cool.
33:45
SPEAKER_07: You know what the funniest thing is?
33:47
SPEAKER_07: Without the Migos, I'm gonna use them as a unit.
33:50
SPEAKER_07: There's not that.
33:50
SPEAKER_07: Like Cardi B stays where she was, like at Bodagello.
33:54
SPEAKER_07: In a sense, look, I had the whole I've had a whole look, look, I've had a whole listen, I've had a whole conversation.
34:00
SPEAKER_07: I've had a whole conversation with people.
34:05
SPEAKER_07: Thank you.
34:06
SPEAKER_07: Had a whole conversation with people on the inside.
34:08
SPEAKER_07: They fired her whole management staff, DJing staff, and everything like that.
34:12
SPEAKER_07: Now you use QC.
34:13
SPEAKER_07: They're elevating her.
34:14
SPEAKER_07: Okay, I didn't say no.
34:15
SPEAKER_07: So are they putting more money into Cardi B or are they putting more money into Quavo?
34:19
SPEAKER_07: Quavo?
34:19
SPEAKER_07: They're putting more money into Quavo?
34:21
SPEAKER_07: She has a whole solo project in the group.
34:26
SPEAKER_07: It's not doing well.
34:27
SPEAKER_07: It definitely is.
34:28
SPEAKER_07: No, it's not.
34:29
SPEAKER_07: Where are the numbers?
34:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, you gotta You gotta give it more time to the reviews so far.
34:34
SPEAKER_07: Everybody loves it, man.
34:35
SPEAKER_07: Besides that one section of Black Twitter.
34:37
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
34:39
SPEAKER_06: Sonically, his album was better than Cardi B.
34:43
SPEAKER_06: I don't give a fuck.
34:44
SPEAKER_07: How about numbers?
34:46
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
34:47
SPEAKER_06: Listen, you can say number two.
34:48
SPEAKER_06: Shut up to search up.
34:50
SPEAKER_06: But it's nothing like that.
34:51
SPEAKER_06: Just like my man take off set.
34:54
SPEAKER_02: That's just like what my son take off said.
34:56
SPEAKER_06: Who got left off bad and booji?
34:57
SPEAKER_06: We still get in a bag.
34:58
SPEAKER_06: So what are you telling me?
34:59
SPEAKER_06: What is Cardi B doing right now?
35:00
SPEAKER_07: What's my Cardi B's year was better than Quavo's year?
35:04
SPEAKER_06: That's one year, and that's still debatable.
35:07
SPEAKER_06: But that's what we're talking about.
35:09
SPEAKER_12: Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
35:10
SPEAKER_12: Let me let me let me let me let me step in.
35:13
SPEAKER_12: If you listen to the first thing that this motherfucker said, he said better year.
35:18
SPEAKER_12: Speaking of the current year that we're in, she had the number one hit.
35:22
SPEAKER_12: Like, did did Migos that wasn't this year?
35:27
SPEAKER_12: That wasn't this year.
35:29
SPEAKER_12: But it wasn't this year.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you guys are just arguing two different things.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: You're arguing about the year, but they're arguing about who the bigger part is.
35:35
SPEAKER_06: I see exactly what you're coming from.
35:37
SPEAKER_06: Even if you look at this, because Migos are thinking it's bigger than Cardi.
35:44
SPEAKER_10: Comparing it to actual snipes that belong to Cardi when she came out with it.
35:48
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so once again, hold on.
35:50
SPEAKER_06: As much as y'all don't want me to mention this fucking name, but we're gonna sit there and argue that's nigga got 10 for 10 on the billboard.
35:57
SPEAKER_06: But what does that have to do with anything?
36:00
SPEAKER_06: So what are you telling me?
36:01
SPEAKER_06: Is he still a better artist than certain people?
36:03
SPEAKER_06: Okay, but that's what I'm saying.
36:05
SPEAKER_06: If he got 10 for 10 on the billboard, is he still better than certain artists?
36:08
SPEAKER_06: No.
36:08
SPEAKER_07: I never made the argument of the.
36:10
SPEAKER_07: So he got better yet to do it.
36:12
SPEAKER_12: Let me interject.
36:13
SPEAKER_12: Let me interject.
36:14
SPEAKER_12: Let me interject.
36:15
SPEAKER_12: No, no, no.
36:17
SPEAKER_12: Give the mic up.
36:18
SPEAKER_12: Listen, like I like I said, when this motherfuckers don't get what we're talking about, we're gonna continue to move on.
36:24
SPEAKER_12: Move on, please.
36:25
SPEAKER_12: Because he's not making, you're you're totally missing the fucking point, bro.
36:29
SPEAKER_12: You're like Shaq at the free throw line right now.
36:31
SPEAKER_12: Okay, you're missing the fucking point.
36:33
SPEAKER_06: But that's why I just said he was 10 for 10 on the billboard, right?
36:35
SPEAKER_06: But we're not gonna be able to do that.
36:39
SPEAKER_06: Are you telling me still a bigger way?
36:40
SPEAKER_06: If you had a better year than certain people, if I could be low key and making more money than you, I had a better year because I'm making more bright.
36:46
SPEAKER_06: Because what is the end goal of everything?
36:50
SPEAKER_06: But more money than Cardi.
36:54
SPEAKER_02: Quavo has more money.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: No, but exactly.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: That that's what I think.
36:58
SPEAKER_07: I'm saying that's what I think their point is.
37:00
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so since we're talking about music, the elephant in the room is Drake and LeBron having a a bro talk in the shop.
37:07
SPEAKER_07: Pretty good at that, bro.
37:10
SPEAKER_07: You know what he does on his spare time.
37:11
SPEAKER_07: Well, what does he do?
37:12
SPEAKER_07: Elephant?
37:13
SPEAKER_07: Walked in the room.
37:16
SPEAKER_07: That wasn't that wasn't funny at all.
37:17
SPEAKER_07: But um, yeah, so did everybody see at least a couple of snippets of the whole Drake LeBron conversation.
37:23
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I watched the whole episode.
37:24
SPEAKER_07: It's 30 minutes.
37:25
SPEAKER_07: I watched the whole episode.
37:26
SPEAKER_07: Uh what'd you say, Suri Two?
37:28
SPEAKER_12: Uh I just told him I'm too high for this shit.
37:30
SPEAKER_12: I'm like paying attention to you niggas.
37:32
SPEAKER_07: Damn.
37:34
SPEAKER_07: Basically, Drake uh said that I mean there's a lot of shit he said in there, but the thing that really struck me the most was that we're not getting the distract, and Pusha T deserves to get punched in the face because of the city.
37:46
SPEAKER_07: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
37:47
SPEAKER_07: Who said that?
37:48
SPEAKER_07: Drizzy Drake Rogers.
37:49
SPEAKER_12: Oh, okay.
37:49
SPEAKER_12: He said that verbatim and he gets a bit punched on the face.
37:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's like, you're gonna get punched in the face.
37:53
SPEAKER_02: He didn't say by him, but he was saying because of the things that he said about the friend who had MS.
37:58
SPEAKER_02: And that they were rapping about.
38:00
SPEAKER_07: Well, you're not on the mic.
38:02
SPEAKER_07: Bro, verbatim.
38:04
SPEAKER_12: Okay, well, whatever.
38:06
SPEAKER_07: So uh there's Drake fans in the room.
38:07
SPEAKER_07: Are there any Pusher T fans in the room?
38:09
SPEAKER_07: I'm here, nigga.
38:11
SPEAKER_12: I'm a pusher T fan.
38:12
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I side with Drake on that.
38:15
SPEAKER_07: Why?
38:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, because it's not right to talk about people with disabilities or to wish death or harm on someone.
38:21
SPEAKER_07: Okay, you've been listening to hip hop for how long?
38:24
SPEAKER_12: For like almost a little bit.
38:29
SPEAKER_12: That's not the correct question to answer.
38:30
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so let me ask you a.
38:31
SPEAKER_12: How long have you been listening to diss tracks?
38:34
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so have you heard diss tracks?
38:36
SPEAKER_07: Like a few of them?
38:37
SPEAKER_07: No.
38:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I've heard of diss tracks.
38:38
SPEAKER_06: Pretty disrespectful.
38:39
SPEAKER_06: Can we touch a little deeper?
38:41
SPEAKER_06: With the whole Nikki and Cardi beef, who was a big thing.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: But what was the point of him mentioning him?
38:45
SPEAKER_02: Who whose side was that was easier?
38:48
SPEAKER_06: With the whole with the whole baby illness, you can't take care of your mother, somebody saying you're a comment.
38:54
SPEAKER_06: Whose side were you on?
38:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if it was true that I was on Cardi's side, but there was no real proof.
39:00
SPEAKER_06: But Cardi also came at somebody that what was it, that child pass or something like that?
39:06
SPEAKER_06: So what's the difference here?
39:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, the thing is, it's because that girl came into Cardi's comments.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: That's another thing.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: Like, you came into my comments, so I'm a retell.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: But what's the difference here?
39:15
SPEAKER_02: She's very, she's very harsh with people because you know she had an interview on this.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, listen, if you're gonna come to my page and then my mom sees that she gets very sensitive, like if she sees certain things that are said about me, so she's like, I'm gonna attack you and I'm gonna hurt your feelings.
39:27
SPEAKER_02: That's what Cardi said.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: So if you do not want a celebrity to respond, do not come on their page talking anything.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: But that's what they say.
39:34
SPEAKER_02: Talking anything, exactly.
39:36
SPEAKER_02: So that's why like I understood that point, she was very harsh.
39:38
SPEAKER_02: She didn't need to call the that child a monkey, whatever, because that's a racist slur.
39:41
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, we get the right.
39:43
SPEAKER_06: I'm saying, so what's the difference now with Pusha T mentioning about somebody else?
39:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, because one, he could No, no, no.
39:49
SPEAKER_02: One, he created that song, and I was like, what does he have to do with the beef to begin with?
39:52
SPEAKER_02: Because Pusha T's biggest um pet pee here is that Drake has a ghost right.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't.
39:58
SPEAKER_07: That's like I feel like one of the mentioning young man.
40:01
SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay, okay.
40:02
SPEAKER_07: But his beef with Drake and Lil Wayne and Young Mike goes back years.
40:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it says 2011, right?
40:08
SPEAKER_07: That's that's when it started.
40:14
SPEAKER_07: I'm sorry, Lil Wayne.
40:15
SPEAKER_07: It was bad.
40:15
SPEAKER_07: Horrible.
40:16
SPEAKER_07: And the beef kind of died right there because he's not responding to this shit because it was whack.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: And then in 2016, it revives with some.
40:32
SPEAKER_07: And in my opinion, because I've been listening to hip hop as uh uh Red said diss tracks for a long time, it's it's a diss song.
40:39
SPEAKER_07: I can say whatever I want.
40:40
SPEAKER_07: You know, Saigon and these niggas was talking about Joe Buddhist fucking kids and how he beats up women and shit like that.
40:46
SPEAKER_07: They mention little uh Eminem's daughter all the time.
40:49
SPEAKER_07: Like, this is this is battle rap.
40:51
SPEAKER_07: Like, yeah, it's a diss song.
40:52
SPEAKER_12: Shit, didn't didn't Remy didn't Remy talk about Nikki's uh pedophile brother.
40:58
SPEAKER_12: But that's what I'm saying.
40:59
SPEAKER_12: Have you ever listened to like Jay?
41:01
SPEAKER_12: Wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, fuck that.
41:03
SPEAKER_12: Jay Z spoke about nothing on fucking uh Nas's baby mother's carcy.
41:08
SPEAKER_12: Like it doesn't matter.
41:09
SPEAKER_17: That's a car seat though.
41:10
SPEAKER_12: What do you mean?
41:14
SPEAKER_17: Is that what he's saying?
41:18
SPEAKER_17: I'm saying that the carcy isn't a little bit more than a twenty stuff I'm talking about.
41:28
SPEAKER_06: K K.
41:29
SPEAKER_06: K.
41:30
SPEAKER_06: K.
41:31
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna get even deeper.
41:32
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna get even deeper.
41:33
SPEAKER_06: Vado, Vado said, Vado said in the diss track, I'm ignorant.
41:37
SPEAKER_06: I shoot the car seat that you're infant in.
41:39
SPEAKER_06: That's a diss track.
41:40
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna tell you right now, you're your infant, your infant, your infant, your child's gonna be in a car seat.
41:45
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna shoot that car seat.
41:45
SPEAKER_06: So who's gonna get hit?
41:46
SPEAKER_06: Your child.
41:47
SPEAKER_06: Now that's a diss track.
41:48
SPEAKER_06: Nobody's gonna be.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: I just think it's more explicit if they say the actual thing that they're gonna shoot the baby.
41:52
SPEAKER_02: Not the car seat, because again, they're still not saying.
41:55
SPEAKER_12: Do you have a bigger one?
41:57
SPEAKER_12: So what I'm saying is, like referencing whomever, there's really there's really no off-limits.
42:06
SPEAKER_12: Like when you're once you take once you take it to a certain place, the gloves come off entirely.
42:12
SPEAKER_16: What did he say about his wife, Drake?
42:13
SPEAKER_10: All I'm gonna say is once you get into the octagon, you're gonna get fucking snuffed.
42:17
SPEAKER_06: Like I said, watch URL battle rap, and I want you to hear the way these people talk about people's children.
42:23
SPEAKER_06: They talk about people's characters.
42:25
SPEAKER_06: Answer the question.
42:26
SPEAKER_07: Excuse me, Chubb.
42:26
SPEAKER_07: She asked the question.
42:27
SPEAKER_07: She asked, what did Drake say about um Pusher Tusher T?
42:31
SPEAKER_07: Pusher T's wife.
42:33
SPEAKER_07: I'm saying it like that because he also has beef with Steve Harvey.
42:35
SPEAKER_07: And Steve Harvey, Steve Harvey said his name like that.
42:37
SPEAKER_07: That's right.
42:38
SPEAKER_07: Pusher.
42:38
SPEAKER_07: He said, Who the fuck is Pusher T?
42:40
SPEAKER_07: That's what was so funny.
42:41
SPEAKER_07: Burbato?
42:42
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Burbato.
42:43
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's what he said.
42:44
SPEAKER_07: All the family feud.
42:45
SPEAKER_07: He was saying fuck.
42:47
SPEAKER_07: Who the fuck is Pusher T?
42:49
SPEAKER_11: Because that's a fire ass drop.
42:51
SPEAKER_11: That shit is hilarious.
42:51
SPEAKER_11: Google it and find it.
42:52
SPEAKER_11: That shit was hilarious.
42:53
SPEAKER_11: That's a fire ass drop.
42:54
SPEAKER_07: What Drake did was in a disc song, this trong, this song, he mentioned his wife's name.
43:02
SPEAKER_07: So what did he say?
43:05
SPEAKER_07: It's a suggestion.
43:07
SPEAKER_07: I don't know the exact bar.
43:08
SPEAKER_07: I'm pretty sure we could find it.
43:09
SPEAKER_07: It was about Mary and Virginia Williams.
43:11
SPEAKER_07: It was a suggestion that Yo, if you say my girl's full name, bro, in a diss song, that is a problem.
43:17
SPEAKER_07: That is a problem.
43:18
SPEAKER_07: You were insinuating exactly.
43:20
SPEAKER_15: If you say a name name, insinuating.
43:22
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so the the backdrop behind the bar, he was talking about uh, I guess it was a gun or whatever, and he said, and I'll let it ring on you like Virginia Williams.
43:32
SPEAKER_07: There you go.
43:33
SPEAKER_07: Okay, okay.
43:34
SPEAKER_12: Like Virginia Williams.
43:36
SPEAKER_07: All Pusha T heard was Virginia Williams.
43:38
SPEAKER_07: Virginia Williams.
43:39
SPEAKER_12: I knew that I knew that in my head.
43:40
SPEAKER_12: Like I said, wait a man, Lord.
43:43
SPEAKER_12: Because I was chewing motherfucker and I'm stoned these highs.
43:47
SPEAKER_12: The delayed reaction.
43:48
SPEAKER_12: High?
43:49
SPEAKER_12: No, no.
43:49
SPEAKER_16: Well, you know, Drake is an emotional nigga, so I'm high.
43:52
SPEAKER_16: He took he took that dick stop.
43:54
SPEAKER_12: Passionate, not emotional.
43:55
SPEAKER_12: It's different.
43:58
SPEAKER_07: Emotional?
43:58
SPEAKER_07: Oh, he has a song called Emotional.
44:00
SPEAKER_15: He's Canadian.
44:01
SPEAKER_07: What does that have to do with anything?
44:02
SPEAKER_07: They're emotional up there too.
44:03
SPEAKER_12: How?
44:04
SPEAKER_15: It's highest durass.
44:07
SPEAKER_12: No, highest camel pussy in the city.
44:09
SPEAKER_12: They're like the nicest, sweetest people in the world.
44:12
SPEAKER_02: They have uh reputation.
44:13
SPEAKER_07: So I'm pretty sure he's more sensitive than the average American.
44:15
SPEAKER_07: So as the Drake fans in the room, are you guys still riding with your boy?
44:19
SPEAKER_17: Yeah.
44:20
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
44:21
SPEAKER_07: Always.
44:21
SPEAKER_16: Kiki's still riding.
44:23
unknown: Yeah.
44:24
SPEAKER_07: Kiki is still riding.
44:25
SPEAKER_07: Always.
44:25
SPEAKER_07: Drake also said that this track that he was going on.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay, see, see, the thing is, I didn't like what he was saying was Kanye's role in this, right?
44:33
SPEAKER_02: Because he helped he was the producer on Pusha on Pusha T's album, right?
44:37
SPEAKER_02: So then he gave, he had to have given Pusha T the information that Drake confided in him about his son.
44:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
44:43
SPEAKER_02: So that was the whole thing.
44:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, I understand, you know, it's a diss track.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: You gotta do what you gotta do.
44:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, the only problem I had with that information was what he said Kanye did.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: Which seems a little which seemed yeah, exactly.
44:55
SPEAKER_07: You think that's a reach?
44:56
SPEAKER_07: No.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think that's a reach because I feel like Kanye is not as genuine as he's fucking portraying himself to be in terms of what his motives are right now.
45:05
SPEAKER_07: We're gonna get to Kanye right after this.
45:11
SPEAKER_07: Because again, right?
45:13
SPEAKER_02: So he's gonna try to, you know.
45:14
SPEAKER_12: Can I interject?
45:15
SPEAKER_12: Can I can I be objective here?
45:16
SPEAKER_12: Pusha T B success.
45:18
SPEAKER_12: Can I be on Kanye's side for a second?
45:20
SPEAKER_12: I'm I'm oh can I can I just can I can I just sit here and say that are they not all on Adidas, which uh Drake isn't anymore.
45:29
SPEAKER_12: No, no, well, which Drake was having a run out on, correct?
45:32
SPEAKER_12: He was going to be.
45:33
SPEAKER_12: You don't think that motherfuckers communicate?
45:35
SPEAKER_12: Does Pusha T not have a sneaker on Adidas as well?
45:39
SPEAKER_12: Does Kanye not have a sneaker on Adidas?
45:41
SPEAKER_12: Sneakers.
45:42
SPEAKER_12: Multiple.
45:42
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so do you think that possibly he found out about the son rollout through Adidas?
45:50
SPEAKER_12: I doubt it.
45:52
SPEAKER_12: I doubt it.
45:52
SPEAKER_12: How does that come up?
45:53
SPEAKER_12: That's very confidential information.
45:57
SPEAKER_07: Add on us?
45:58
SPEAKER_02: Added on, yeah.
45:59
SPEAKER_07: Why would Adidas bring up?
46:01
SPEAKER_07: Why wouldn't you like what that's just oh yeah, we're gonna have a new added on line?
46:04
SPEAKER_07: Oh, by the way, that's Drake's son is less than.
46:06
SPEAKER_12: Listen, you don't know, things like that, they're in a building.
46:10
SPEAKER_12: There's there's a central office where they create ideas and they have meetings to come up with these things.
46:15
SPEAKER_12: That's what I'm saying.
46:16
SPEAKER_12: Do you not think that there's informants within?
46:19
SPEAKER_12: I'm just being real.
46:20
SPEAKER_07: I I understand, but I'm sorry.
46:22
SPEAKER_07: Drake came out of his mouth and named names.
46:24
SPEAKER_07: If he if he didn't name names, he said Kanye did this.
46:27
SPEAKER_07: He said, I literally showed Kanye my son.
46:29
SPEAKER_07: Hey, here's my boy with blue eyes.
46:31
SPEAKER_07: I don't know why he kept saying that.
46:32
SPEAKER_07: Is he ashamed of his black eyes?
46:33
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, no, no.
46:35
SPEAKER_02: No, well, LeBron was the one that pointed it out.
46:36
SPEAKER_02: He's like, yeah, he has b he has blue eyes.
46:38
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Drake is proud of those fucking blue eyes.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: No, well, of course.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: It's they look pretty.
46:42
SPEAKER_16: They just look pretty.
46:43
SPEAKER_16: Like, what's he gonna have?
46:46
SPEAKER_07: Um, but I don't I think that because he specifically said Kanye did this, I have to disagree with your point, Red.
46:52
SPEAKER_07: It is a good point, though.
46:53
SPEAKER_07: It makes a lot of sense.
46:54
SPEAKER_07: If we didn't hear all the information, that's a pretty good narrative to suspend, but he said Kanye did this.
47:00
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
47:03
SPEAKER_12: Just because he said it doesn't make it true.
47:05
SPEAKER_07: But what incentive does he have to lie?
47:07
SPEAKER_07: He would have saved more faith.
47:10
SPEAKER_12: I mean, let's be real.
47:11
SPEAKER_12: He speaks about this uh diss track that he allegedly has.
47:14
SPEAKER_07: I think it's bullshit as well.
47:15
SPEAKER_12: Okay, do you get what I'm saying?
47:17
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
47:18
SPEAKER_12: It's a lot of shit that we don't know.
47:20
SPEAKER_12: And it's a lot of shit that we'll never know.
47:21
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, like the shit.
47:23
SPEAKER_07: Do you believe that?
47:24
SPEAKER_12: What?
47:24
SPEAKER_12: No.
47:24
SPEAKER_12: The alleged um snashing?
47:26
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
47:27
SPEAKER_12: Um, they live in the same neighborhood.
47:29
SPEAKER_12: Anything's possible.
47:30
SPEAKER_07: Anything's possible.
47:30
SPEAKER_07: Anything's possible.
47:31
SPEAKER_07: Okay, but do you believe it?
47:32
SPEAKER_07: I believe it.
47:33
SPEAKER_07: If you had to bet your bottom dollar.
47:35
SPEAKER_12: Um To be honest with you, I really don't give a fuck enough about the situation, too.
47:44
SPEAKER_12: I I don't know.
47:45
SPEAKER_02: Yes or no?
47:46
SPEAKER_02: Yes or no, right?
47:47
SPEAKER_12: No, I don't know.
47:49
SPEAKER_07: So I'm gonna go with no.
47:50
SPEAKER_07: He said I don't know.
47:52
SPEAKER_07: So my final question on this whole topic.
47:54
SPEAKER_07: Drake fans, does this put a chink in his arm?
47:58
SPEAKER_07: Nope.
47:58
SPEAKER_07: It's asterisk on his career?
47:59
SPEAKER_12: It's been it's been it's been a little bit more.
48:00
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so I think this is my argument with this.
48:04
SPEAKER_12: Nothing that he said.
48:05
SPEAKER_16: But not his actual career, no.
48:07
SPEAKER_12: Nothing that he's the same thing.
48:08
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, same thing.
48:09
SPEAKER_12: No, it's the same thing.
48:10
SPEAKER_12: Same thing.
48:12
SPEAKER_12: It does not hurt his popularity.
48:13
SPEAKER_12: It's average.
48:15
SPEAKER_02: It does not hurt his revenue.
48:18
SPEAKER_17: No, it doesn't hurt anything.
48:19
SPEAKER_02: Because that's what I'm saying.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: There's different types of fans.
48:21
SPEAKER_02: Like you guys love Drake so much.
48:23
SPEAKER_02: You guys bangers, yo.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: We can just, yo, he mentioned Aventuda in that one song.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: I forgot he had a song with them.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: That's what it was.
48:37
SPEAKER_12: No, no, he mentioned Aventuda in one song, and then that was it.
48:40
SPEAKER_12: We just care about good.
48:41
SPEAKER_11: Yo, Uptown New York City, bitch.
48:43
SPEAKER_11: Spanish girls love me like I'm Aventura.
48:45
SPEAKER_11: And it was over.
48:46
SPEAKER_11: And he said thuda to me.
48:48
SPEAKER_11: He rolled his arm.
48:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, no, mind you, we grew up watching Degrassi, so we knew Drake before he was Drake.
48:59
SPEAKER_02: But still, we knew we knew him, and especially the first song that came out.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: We were like, oh shit, he couldn't really.
49:03
SPEAKER_12: He couldn't even stand on his own two feet as an act.
49:06
SPEAKER_07: Wow.
49:07
SPEAKER_07: Low blow dark.
49:08
unknown: That's not right.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: As an actor, I said.
49:11
SPEAKER_00: As an actor.
49:12
SPEAKER_00: As an actor.
49:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: He got a sound bite.
49:16
SPEAKER_00: Bring it back, motherfuckers.
49:18
SPEAKER_00: That was good.
49:19
SPEAKER_11: No, but I was saying.
49:20
SPEAKER_11: The weed done kicked in.
49:21
SPEAKER_11: Hold on.
49:21
SPEAKER_11: Uh oh.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: You have to agree that there's different.
49:24
SPEAKER_11: You know, I come alive about an hour into the podcast.
49:26
SPEAKER_11: We're about an hour in yet.
49:27
SPEAKER_11: But we're about 49 minutes in.
49:29
SPEAKER_11: You gotta warm up.
49:30
SPEAKER_02: Nah, because people are gonna forget about it.
49:32
SPEAKER_12: Like all the rap battle clubs.
49:34
SPEAKER_12: Okay, here we go.
49:35
SPEAKER_12: Do you all right?
49:36
SPEAKER_12: There's just a minute.
49:38
SPEAKER_12: I can't, I I I can't really like dis discount females from this because there are female gamers, but gamers and now is we game?
49:47
SPEAKER_12: Absolutely.
49:48
SPEAKER_12: You play sports.
49:49
SPEAKER_12: Game sports.
49:50
SPEAKER_12: You know how they have an overall?
49:52
SPEAKER_12: That's Drake.
49:54
SPEAKER_12: He's diminished in that category.
49:56
SPEAKER_12: What we're talking about is overall.
49:59
SPEAKER_12: Overall, he is he's a he's a high rank or whatever, but he can't be at a 99 or 100 because of the ghostwriting asterisk and his rap battle asterisk.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: I have a question though.
50:16
SPEAKER_02: Who doesn't have a ghostwriting rumor?
50:18
SPEAKER_12: A lot of people.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: Who who doesn't?
50:20
SPEAKER_02: So you said rumor.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: Who doesn't?
50:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
50:22
SPEAKER_02: Who doesn't?
50:25
SPEAKER_02: Out of all the people that claim that they write all their stuff.
50:27
SPEAKER_17: I've never had a ghostwriter.
50:29
SPEAKER_17: Who haven't you heard a rumor about?
50:31
SPEAKER_12: Make male.
50:32
SPEAKER_12: Make milk.
50:32
SPEAKER_12: Can I name some tricks?
50:33
SPEAKER_12: He wrote it with someone.
50:34
SPEAKER_12: Can I name some tri- Can I name some people?
50:36
SPEAKER_12: Can I name some people?
50:37
SPEAKER_12: I've never heard of Eminem having a ghostwriter.
50:40
SPEAKER_12: I've never had I've never heard of the locks having a ghostwriter.
50:45
SPEAKER_12: Well, Jay Z does, because Jay Cole wrote for J.
50:47
SPEAKER_12: I've never heard of.
50:49
SPEAKER_07: No.
50:50
SPEAKER_12: Did he write for Jay-Z?
50:52
SPEAKER_07: Oh.
50:53
SPEAKER_07: No.
50:54
SPEAKER_07: There were rumors that Jay-Z was writing for J.
50:55
SPEAKER_07: Cole.
50:56
SPEAKER_12: I heard the opposite.
51:00
SPEAKER_12: I've never heard someone fucking ghost writing for Tupac.
51:04
SPEAKER_12: I've never heard of someone ghostwriting for Big E.
51:07
SPEAKER_12: I've never heard someone ghostwriting for Big Pun for Big L.
51:11
SPEAKER_02: But a question, how long were they how long were their careers?
51:14
SPEAKER_02: Well, what do you mean?
51:14
SPEAKER_02: Because they were cut short.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: They were cut short.
51:17
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
51:19
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so I can go now.
51:21
SPEAKER_06: I've never heard of any motherfucking song.
51:23
SPEAKER_06: So you want to go Dr.
51:24
SPEAKER_06: Drake.
51:25
SPEAKER_12: You never heard anybody write for Meek Mill.
51:27
SPEAKER_12: You want to go lengthwise as far as careers?
51:29
SPEAKER_12: I've never heard anyone ghostwriting for L L Cole J.
51:32
SPEAKER_12: I've never heard of anyone ghostwriting for L.
51:34
SPEAKER_02: Okay, what is the evidence that he has that he has a co reference tracks?
51:39
SPEAKER_06: For Drake, God released a song that he recorded.
51:42
SPEAKER_06: Quinton Miller, his name is Quinton Miller.
51:43
SPEAKER_06: Quinton Miller released a song and it's the exact same word.
51:46
SPEAKER_16: Oh, I heard, yeah.
51:47
SPEAKER_06: I don't remember that.
51:48
SPEAKER_07: He lost a leg.
51:50
SPEAKER_07: He got into a car accident.
51:51
SPEAKER_07: And he got beat up by Beatles group.
51:53
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that was fucking.
51:54
SPEAKER_07: He got hit with the OVO.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: Because that's what I'm saying.
51:57
SPEAKER_02: So my point is that.
51:58
SPEAKER_07: Does that shit matter to you?
51:59
SPEAKER_07: Be real.
52:00
SPEAKER_02: No, it doesn't.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't, it doesn't at all.
52:02
SPEAKER_02: No, but that's what I was saying.
52:03
SPEAKER_02: There's different.
52:04
SPEAKER_02: I was trying to bring up the point that there are different types of fans, right?
52:07
SPEAKER_02: So there's people that are in hardcore into rap battle, right?
52:09
SPEAKER_02: The rap purist.
52:10
SPEAKER_02: Purist.
52:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes, exactly.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: But he's again, he's a mainstream artist now.
52:14
SPEAKER_02: So not everybody really cares about that shit.
52:17
SPEAKER_02: As long as he puts out the content, he's a loyal fan base.
52:20
SPEAKER_12: No, but it doesn't matter to the fancy.
52:23
SPEAKER_12: As far as you said there's different types of fans, you're right.
52:26
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
52:26
SPEAKER_12: There are different types of fans because there are an older generation and the generation where I come from, that's very important.
52:34
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, but I'm saying you guys have different priorities.
52:36
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, but would you go?
52:39
SPEAKER_12: Because I don't give a fuck.
52:40
SPEAKER_12: You guys are outnumbered.
52:41
SPEAKER_12: I'm gonna give you a young nigga, but I'm gonna give you a parent.
52:46
SPEAKER_12: I'm a young nigga and I still No, I'm just saying I don't care.
52:50
SPEAKER_12: Personally, I do not care.
52:52
SPEAKER_12: You don't care.
52:53
SPEAKER_12: So there's a lot of fans.
52:54
SPEAKER_12: Not only that, but you're a female, and I don't wanna what does that mean?
52:59
SPEAKER_12: What does that mean?
53:02
SPEAKER_17: Not if you're trying to point something towards my gender.
53:06
SPEAKER_17: Okay, look, look, look.
53:07
SPEAKER_17: I'm gonna give you a pair of money.
53:11
SPEAKER_17: Because you're a female.
53:12
SPEAKER_17: But you can't.
53:13
SPEAKER_12: No, no, yo, yo, as a female, but understand where I'm going with this.
53:16
SPEAKER_12: Understand where I'm going with this.
53:17
SPEAKER_17: Because you're not a female, but you can't even do it.
53:19
SPEAKER_17: I'm blowing women or so.
53:20
SPEAKER_17: No, no.
53:21
SPEAKER_17: But you're not a woman.
53:22
SPEAKER_12: Understand where I'm going with this.
53:24
SPEAKER_12: I'm a man.
53:25
SPEAKER_12: That makes me a woman.
53:26
SPEAKER_12: I would hope so.
53:28
SPEAKER_12: The rap game is not a place for a female.
53:31
SPEAKER_12: Statistics show it.
53:34
SPEAKER_12: Longevity, hits, and things like that.
53:38
SPEAKER_12: Nikki Minaj, Nikki Minaj is the only one who has a longevity in her.
53:49
SPEAKER_12: All other females have not been in the middle of the city.
53:52
SPEAKER_12: But Cardi is coming up.
53:54
SPEAKER_12: Cardi is coming in.
53:55
SPEAKER_12: But that's one that's one.
53:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean that's one year.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: So wait, she's had because Nikki hasn't had a number one, but I'm not sure.
54:02
SPEAKER_12: But can I get in here?
54:04
SPEAKER_02: No, because Cardi, I think, is like one of the first ones to have a number one.
54:06
SPEAKER_12: Alright, but understand where I'm going with this.
54:08
SPEAKER_12: Understand where I'm going with this.
54:09
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, but I'm saying she and now she has two.
54:12
SPEAKER_12: But now Cardi has only one.
54:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but I'm saying that's all you know.
54:16
SPEAKER_02: That's all you know.
54:17
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
54:18
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna keep happening.
54:19
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna keep happening.
54:21
SPEAKER_12: Isn't necessarily a place for females who want to live long, like uh who want to have longevity in the game.
54:31
SPEAKER_12: But now I think you can blame who you want to blame, but I'm saying statistics.
54:36
SPEAKER_12: But I think I'm going by statistics.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: But that's what I'm saying.
54:39
SPEAKER_02: I think Nikki is helping to change that.
54:42
SPEAKER_02: Right?
54:42
SPEAKER_02: So that's why Cardi is having a lot of success because that's one of the things that Nikki says.
54:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, she paved the way for this, you know, for this mainstream career.
54:50
SPEAKER_02: So all we need is more time, but I think it can happen in the future where you'll have more female rappers that will sustain a successful career.
54:59
SPEAKER_06: KOJ, let me ask you a question.
55:00
SPEAKER_06: Do you see Nikki on her way out?
55:02
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't.
55:03
SPEAKER_06: You don't think she's on her way out now?
55:04
SPEAKER_06: No, I don't.
55:04
SPEAKER_02: So it's a lot of drama behind.
55:06
SPEAKER_06: Look at her last album.
55:07
SPEAKER_06: I don't think there's nothing close to any of her other albums.
55:10
SPEAKER_07: It's number two.
55:11
SPEAKER_07: Nobody's albums is doing nothing close to anybody's albums because streaming has changed the whole album her own album.
55:16
SPEAKER_07: It was number two.
55:16
SPEAKER_07: Nobody's album.
55:17
SPEAKER_07: You can't.
55:17
SPEAKER_06: Her last album was number two.
55:18
SPEAKER_06: But look at look at how bad it was that she had to add that song with 6'9 on.
55:23
SPEAKER_06: It was doing bad.
55:24
SPEAKER_02: I think it's yeah, I think it's still denied.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: And it was number two.
55:27
SPEAKER_07: She was just like, and I want an honest opinion.
55:31
SPEAKER_07: Can you say that LeBron is at a 99 or 100 in his um specific field?
55:36
SPEAKER_07: No.
55:37
SPEAKER_07: I can.
55:37
SPEAKER_07: You can?
55:38
SPEAKER_07: So the theory is.
55:39
SPEAKER_07: So the count the consistent finals loss don't count.
55:42
SPEAKER_07: That's not a hindrance.
55:43
SPEAKER_07: Is rap a team sport or is it?
55:44
SPEAKER_06: It's the fact that he got there.
55:46
SPEAKER_06: And I hate LeBron.
55:47
SPEAKER_06: But it's the fact that he's a team there.
55:50
SPEAKER_07: Drake gets there every year if you want to give him the numbers.
55:52
SPEAKER_07: What?
55:52
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
55:53
SPEAKER_07: It's really hard to debate team sports with rap because rap is a good thing.
56:00
SPEAKER_11: We can get based off a yearly type basis if you want to be technical.
56:03
SPEAKER_11: But you have your own individualized stats.
56:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, if you were talking about individualized stats, LeBron James is better than whoever you can do.
56:09
SPEAKER_07: So you just say you basically say he's perfect.
56:11
SPEAKER_07: No, I'm just saying if you're gonna give somebody up.
56:14
SPEAKER_07: Whoever you're gonna come with I have a stat I can give you that he has a lot of.
56:17
SPEAKER_12: I'd probably rate LeBron James like a 95 on like the all-time list?
56:21
SPEAKER_12: Like all the same.
56:23
SPEAKER_12: If I had to rate him in a game, I gotta just die.
56:26
SPEAKER_10: Drake doesn't produce any material.
56:30
SPEAKER_10: I'm asking you.
56:31
SPEAKER_12: Drake is like in the top, like as far as right now, like year wise.
56:34
SPEAKER_07: I'm just gonna I just want to 1 through 100.
56:37
SPEAKER_07: Bro, Drake is gonna go down as the greatest.
56:38
SPEAKER_07: He's probably like 98 artists of all time.
56:40
SPEAKER_07: Drake's the 98.
56:41
SPEAKER_07: Drake will go down as the greatest top artist of all time.
56:44
SPEAKER_07: That's what Drake's legacy is going to be until somebody supplants it.
56:46
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
56:47
SPEAKER_12: Wait, isn't he like number one like for most album streams?
56:50
SPEAKER_12: Number one.
56:50
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, and Lil Wayne's number two, right?
56:52
SPEAKER_07: That makes sense.
56:54
SPEAKER_07: And I said artist.
56:55
SPEAKER_07: Right.
56:56
SPEAKER_07: And not rapper.
56:57
SPEAKER_07: Not rapper.
56:58
SPEAKER_07: Drake also had a talk.
56:59
SPEAKER_07: I had Pac before him.
57:01
SPEAKER_07: Drake also had a talk with LeBron.
57:03
SPEAKER_07: Shout out.
57:04
SPEAKER_07: I know, relax.
57:05
SPEAKER_07: No, why am I relaxing if you just read it?
57:06
SPEAKER_07: It was a separate post.
57:08
SPEAKER_07: He had a separate talk with LeBron?
57:09
SPEAKER_07: So he had two of them.
57:11
SPEAKER_07: It was a separate post that he posted before.
57:14
unknown: Okay.
57:14
SPEAKER_07: And it was and he was saying, How long do you think is too long to stay in the game?
57:19
SPEAKER_07: Nigga, that was the same interview.
57:21
SPEAKER_07: Regardless.
57:23
SPEAKER_07: It was posted a whole two weeks ago.
57:24
SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't.
57:25
SPEAKER_07: On his page or what?
57:27
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I don't think they addressed that specific question on the show.
57:29
SPEAKER_02: That's how they did.
57:29
SPEAKER_02: It was part of the shop.
57:30
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's part of the shop.
57:32
SPEAKER_07: It was about exiting the game.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember that.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: I saw the whole episode.
57:36
SPEAKER_07: Bring it back one time, Selecta.
57:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
57:38
SPEAKER_07: Alright, finish it off.
57:39
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
57:39
SPEAKER_07: Basically, but I'm saying, how long do you think Drake should stay in the rap games?
57:43
SPEAKER_07: Nigga, you make as much money as possible.
57:45
SPEAKER_07: As long as the bag still coming and the hit still coming.
57:48
SPEAKER_12: The thing about Drake, as much as people speak about ghostwriting, he is ghostwritten for other people.
57:54
SPEAKER_12: Absolutely.
57:55
SPEAKER_12: And I think that once his time goes, he's still gonna be making money behind the scenes.
58:00
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
58:01
SPEAKER_12: He's still gonna be involved in music.
58:03
SPEAKER_07: Hip hop is peaking right now in terms of money you can make right now.
58:06
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna have an argument with this faggot sitting in the back about this hip-hop culture.
58:10
SPEAKER_16: Oh, yeah, we wanna go into that.
58:12
SPEAKER_07: I want to go into that.
58:12
SPEAKER_07: No, go into that.
58:13
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
58:15
SPEAKER_07: Now we can close the show.
58:16
SPEAKER_07: Before we get into that.
58:19
SPEAKER_07: I want to talk about Kanye first before we I want to get all the hip-hop uh topics uh well say it again for the people for the people to buy.
58:27
SPEAKER_07: Kanye.
58:28
SPEAKER_07: Okay, but the question is why are we fucking Kanye?
58:31
SPEAKER_17: Because one of the fuck and we don't be fucking Kanye.
58:36
SPEAKER_17: We said fuck Kanye.
58:38
SPEAKER_06: Why fuck Kanye?
58:41
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna just say why I say fuck Kanye.
58:43
SPEAKER_06: Why?
58:43
SPEAKER_06: First of all, you voted for Trump.
58:44
SPEAKER_06: So what is it?
58:45
SPEAKER_06: Because it's this.
58:45
SPEAKER_06: I didn't vote for Trump.
58:46
SPEAKER_06: I voted for Hillary.
58:49
SPEAKER_07: I voted for the fucking case postal service.
58:51
SPEAKER_07: And I voted for Hillary.
58:54
SPEAKER_07: You literally work for him.
58:55
SPEAKER_12: But like I said, the reason why the reason why I say that you know that the U.S.
58:59
SPEAKER_12: Postal Service.
59:00
SPEAKER_12: Oh, wait.
59:00
SPEAKER_12: Damn it.
59:01
SPEAKER_12: The GPS.
59:02
unknown: With the market.
59:03
SPEAKER_12: But I was gonna say the USPS Postal Service are not opera, they're actually funded by themselves.
59:10
SPEAKER_07: Why are you gonna walk all over my job?
59:12
SPEAKER_07: No.
59:15
SPEAKER_12: This is why they got it.
59:15
SPEAKER_12: I'm just educating people who are gonna walk.
59:20
SPEAKER_07: Excuse me.
59:22
SPEAKER_06: Oh this is why I say fuck Kanye.
59:26
SPEAKER_06: Whatever.
59:26
SPEAKER_06: How much do they get for you, nigga?
59:28
SPEAKER_06: Nigger daddy.
59:29
SPEAKER_06: We spoke about this from day one.
59:30
SPEAKER_06: Kanye came out making us feel like, yo, that is the next person that's gonna say black power and take us to another level and speak out for all us African Americans.
59:41
SPEAKER_06: And you do dumb shit by being a walk of contradiction with a make a grand make a gr make America Great Again hat come with a fucking cap and shirt on the same time.
59:50
SPEAKER_06: Then you're sitting there dapping this nigga up, taking all that shit.
59:53
SPEAKER_02: Exactly like kissing his ass.
59:55
SPEAKER_02: He was a herb in that.
59:56
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
59:57
SPEAKER_02: Yo, I was like that wasn't.
59:59
SPEAKER_02: You feel me?
1:00:00
SPEAKER_02: Yo, that nigga was an old herb.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_06: Then it's then boots.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_06: Then it's like, you look dumb.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_06: You you go you're taking that video walking about saying, oh fuck, everybody for talking about my wife.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_06: But then you make a song talking about I love hoes, and you know for a fact Kim is a hoe.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_06: So what the fuck are you telling me?
1:00:14
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_06: But then you make an Instagram post about coming about somebody.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_06: You're doing, you're going left, but then you're trying to go right.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_06: You can't do that, nigga.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_06: What makes Kim a hoe?
1:00:22
SPEAKER_06: What?
1:00:22
SPEAKER_06: What?
1:00:23
SPEAKER_10: She was in a relationship with Rio.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_06: What is she famous for?
1:00:25
SPEAKER_10: This is his favorite artist.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_06: The sex tape.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_10: Was she in a relationship with Rachel?
1:00:29
SPEAKER_07: Time out, time out, time out, time out, time out.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_07: Kill this nigga.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_07: Kill this nigga.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_07: Her provocative photos.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_02: I think it's the provocative photos.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_02: Like you're doing two most.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_07: Every woman that takes provocative photos is a hoe?
1:00:42
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_07: Cardi B.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm saying.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_07: Cardi B was a whole stripper.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so Cardi B was a not hoe.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_07: I don't think she's a big one.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_17: That's not a hoe of her naked on a Wednesday night.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_17: Like when you're not sure.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_07: One of the time children.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_07: Shout out to DJ Redlight.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_07: I want to hear DJ Red Light why Kim Kardashian is a hoe.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think she's a hoe.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_02: That was Chubb's point.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I was asking him, I was like, is it the provocative photos why he thinks she's a hoe?
1:01:15
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_02: Because in terms of relationships, I'm like, I don't know.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_02: Mind you, Taylor, like, look at Taylor Swift.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_02: She's she's been with a lot of men in the industry, but like nobody really classifies her as a hoe.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_02: But she's dated.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_02: Exactly, but she's data, but she's dated a lot more people than Kim has.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_02: I think Kim has been a little more conservative in terms of who she's who she dated.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_07: So it's Chubbs, as the woman asked you, why is she a hoe?
1:01:37
SPEAKER_07: This is my thing.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_07: I just want to know like that.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_06: Family is on a whole level.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_02: She basically sells her body for money.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, have you seen her perfume?
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: Her perfume is her naked body.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_07: What do models do?
1:01:51
SPEAKER_02: That's not the same, though.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_07: Oh, that's not the same as you don't want.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: What type of model though?
1:01:56
SPEAKER_02: There's Instagram models, but then there's high fashion models who are modeling clothes.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_02: Who are modeling clothing?
1:02:02
SPEAKER_02: No, they're selling the clothes.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_06: Alright, so look.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_06: She was a Playboy bunny?
1:02:07
SPEAKER_07: Ho.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_10: So was uh Trump's body.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_10: They're using their body too.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_10: So was Trump's one.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_07: With Kim it.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_07: She was a Playboy button.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_07: And she was on a Playboy issue, I think.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_07: I'm not 100%.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_07: But was she a Playboy button?
1:02:18
SPEAKER_07: No, no.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_07: Kim Kardashian wasn't a Playboy.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_07: Let's centralize.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_07: Let's centralize.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_07: So the point, the point is right now.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_07: Kim just a hoe.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_07: But I understand.
1:02:29
SPEAKER_07: That whole family's hoe.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_07: I understand that.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_07: They sell sex to build a name.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so everybody that sells sex to build a name is a hoe.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_07: So Davies is a hoe.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_07: He sells sex to his image is him selling sex.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no, no.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_06: So if that's the case, just because I have a sex appeal to woman or whatever case, that doesn't make me a hoe.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_07: But he ups it.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_07: How?
1:02:47
SPEAKER_07: By taking pictures, biting his bottom lip.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_07: Are you serious?
1:02:50
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_06: That's provocative.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_06: I take pictures biting my bottom lip.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_06: That don't make me a hoe.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_07: You're saying it does.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_06: No, but she is selling sex to promote their name.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_06: Everybody who does that is a hoe.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_06: So Beyonce is a hoe as well.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_06: Me biting my lip is not selling sex.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_06: It's a provocative picture, but it's not selling to me.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_12: I don't know why people, I don't know why people hold Beyonce higher than what she really is.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_12: Beyonce.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_12: Beyonce is nothing more than a thought from Houston, Texas.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_12: I don't know.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_12: Who likes Brooklyn niggas zipping and fucking eat fried chicken niggas?
1:03:24
SPEAKER_06: Let me ask you a question.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_06: And red lobster.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_06: How many she publicly fucked?
1:03:28
SPEAKER_06: Excuse me?
1:03:29
SPEAKER_06: How many niggas do we know that she publicly fucked?
1:03:31
SPEAKER_06: Jay-Z and LeBron James.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_06: That's only two.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_07: I love Jay Zoe.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_07: He was getting cooked.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_07: That is only two.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_07: They fucking LeBron James is fucking.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_11: LeBron James is nailing Beyonce, nigga.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_11: Have you seen the way she looked at him on many occasions?
1:03:50
SPEAKER_07: Rihanna looks at him and doesn't miss a game.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_07: Okay, he's fucking Rihanna too.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but back, back, back, back.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_07: That's why LeBron's a good one.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_06: Back to the point.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_06: So Chubbs, Chubbs' point.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_06: I just know my big Morgan Westbrook ain't no hoe.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_06: Chubb, okay, but back to back to listen.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_06: She had a show called The Westbrooks where her ass was out.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_06: So she wasn't selling sex.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_06: That's not selling sex.
1:04:09
SPEAKER_06: Of course it isn't sex appeal.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_17: Nah, India doesn't lie to him.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_17: Okay, yeah.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_17: She sounds like sex.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_06: I can see her ass, but her personality just.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_06: So let me explain.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_06: But because you have your ass out, that's selling sex.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_06: Nigga, I want you to tell you.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_06: Tim had to legit dictate her boyfriend.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_06: I just want you to tell me.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_06: So alright.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_06: So if I have a sex tape with a girl that I'm with, right?
1:04:31
SPEAKER_06: I don't want to think about it.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_06: And I put it out to make money.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_06: What is that?
1:04:34
SPEAKER_06: Oh God.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_06: You sold the sex tape to make money.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_07: Your argument for Washington Ho is not.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: Because one, she it wasn't supposed to be released.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_02: She sued the sued, yeah, exactly.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_02: She sued the company that.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_06: But this is this is what I'm saying.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_06: She sued the company.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_06: How did it get to the company?
1:04:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, who knows?
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: Ray J who there's only two people.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_02: There's a paper trail.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_07: There's only two people.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_07: Who knows?
1:04:53
SPEAKER_07: But in terms of what she was a paper trail for it.
1:04:56
unknown: They're not big.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_07: Vivid only.
1:04:58
SPEAKER_07: Money, do you know how big that made her?
1:05:00
SPEAKER_17: No, but that was that was the basis of her shape.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, exactly.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_07: This is a paper trail.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_02: But that's what she promotes that it wasn't.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_07: That didn't happen.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_02: Guys, this is not that topic.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_02: So Chubbs' point was that Kanye before seemed to be for black people and lifting black people up, you know, to another level.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_02: But now he's not.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_02: Because one, the make America great again hat.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_02: When was America great for black people?
1:05:27
SPEAKER_02: So you know what I'm saying?
1:05:28
SPEAKER_02: It seems a little bit more.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_02: It seems uh before though, now, yeah, right?
1:05:33
SPEAKER_02: But then he's saying again, so when was the time before that?
1:05:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_02: That it was great.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_02: You get what I'm saying?
1:05:37
SPEAKER_02: Like obviously now racial.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, now it's, you know, black people are abolished the thirteenth Amendment too.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_02: These canceled.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_06: I can tell you when it was great.
1:05:47
unknown: Speak of it.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_06: When Rhett used to live here and nobody bothered him.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_06: America didn't America didn't.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_07: Listen, Red's advocate.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_12: Actually, before before uh before Before, you know, Columbus and his fucks came over here, you know, was a great it was a great pristine place.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_02: Yes, Fernada.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean you guys had more buffalo structures.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Fernando's pretty the opposite side.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_07: You were good.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_07: Oh the buffalo.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_07: The buffalo.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they were good.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_09: You don't need all that.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_07: You don't need all that.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_07: You guys are running out of food.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_07: You hunted them into extinction.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_07: They needed blankets, bro.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_07: They were hunting all the animals into extinction.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_07: That's right.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_07: The buffalo, first of all, yeah, you don't need you don't need meat though.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_07: But you don't need meat.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_02: You know how the buffalo grow plants.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_07: Nobody can hear you, nigga.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_10: The buffalo's not extinct extinct because the natives over over ate them or over.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_10: Overkilled them.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_10: Nah, it's because the U.S.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_10: government was funding people to shoot the buffalo so that the b so that the natives didn't have the supplies.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_10: I didn't listen.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_07: Going back to the topic.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_10: He was saying before that before.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_02: That's like 500 years ago.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_02: That's not that far.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_02: But it was great.
1:07:00
unknown: How you know, nigga?
1:07:02
SPEAKER_07: Anyway, listen, no, listen.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_07: I just went back to the Kanye.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_07: Went back to the Kanye thing.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_07: That's what I was going to, thank you.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_07: Playing devil's advocate.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_07: Goat.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_07: If you want to look at it, you can say supporting Trump, supporting whatever, or all this energy is in a misdirected sense.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_07: But at the same time, if he's support like if he's promoting unity and trying to abolish all the hate.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_07: But there's no unity with a people that don't think you're a human.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_02: See, but this is Mexico.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he thinks Mexican's a racist.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_02: He's was doing the muscle bad to countries who weren't even involved in those terrorist attacks.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_02: So it's very difficult.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_06: The nigga called us third world shithole countries.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_02: Africa.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_06: He called that.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_06: He's mad about Haiti.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_06: No, he said that about Africa.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_06: Africa.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_06: African country.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_06: I don't give a fuck.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_06: He said the Caribbean.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_06: I live.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_06: My family's from the Caribbean.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_06: We're not third world shithole country, motherfucker.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_06: Y'all can get a couple more nice things.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_06: But I mean, she is neck lining up in everything.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_06: A couple more nice things.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_06: What the fuck?
1:08:00
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so somebody give this motherfucker mic.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_06: Because I'm about to chew who the fuck out of you.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_06: I don't want to see that.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_06: So in that area.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_06: We can have a few more nice things.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_06: So if the nigga would have said this shit about the self, you would have said the same shit?
1:08:10
SPEAKER_06: Some of y'all got a big thing.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_06: That's part of America.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_07: These are his voters, nigga.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_02: See, but that's the whole issue with it.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_02: Like people, you know, some people like parts of his message, right?
1:08:19
SPEAKER_02: But the whole thing is like you're supporting who got a guy who's not with that message at all.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_02: So it seems a little hypocritical.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_02: Because like, we know we were we were talking about the water.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_02: We were speaking about this before.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_02: Like, look, I understand.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_07: Trying to bridge the gap.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, I understand certain things that you need to do, you need to you may need to go to the president to get these things done.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_02: Can I speak for one second?
1:08:38
SPEAKER_07: I think Kanye honestly is a genius.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_07: I hate everybody keeps saying that.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_07: I feel like that's what everybody leads with.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_07: That's what everybody leads with.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_07: I'm like, okay, okay.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_07: Just let me get this point across.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't mean everything he does.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_07: He's a genius in the sense of he's not.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_07: He there's a I don't think he's done.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_07: There's a minority of black people that give a fuck about Larry Hoover.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_07: And Kanye made sure to mention Larry Hoover.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_07: So those blacks was like, yo, this nigga's the whole trailer.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_07: I don't know what he's talking about.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_07: But hold on.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of people that suffer from mental illness.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_07: Kanye also made sure to mention mental illness.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_07: And curriculum.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_07: Those are smart tactical moves.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_07: Are they genuine?
1:09:24
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_07: I can't make that decision.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_12: In the words of Kanye, name one genius that ain't crazy.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_07: Okay, my I think I'm not crazy with that.
1:09:32
SPEAKER_02: The whole listen, listen, my whole issue is like, look how Kim is going about it, right?
1:09:36
SPEAKER_02: Kim is trying to get people freed from prison, trying to, you know, talk about uh criminal justice reform, meeting with the president, but she's not doing all this extra shit that Kanye's doing.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, I love this dude or like that.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:09:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's that's a little extra.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, Kim's getting her money from making the president to get certain things done, but that other shit is really extra because it hurts.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_02: It hurts, it hurts a lot of the people that Trump is, you know, tearing, you know, these families apart, being very racist.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_02: Look at all this shit that's happening just in this country.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_02: Cops being called for every fucking little thing black people do.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_06: Breathing.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_02: This black man is breathing next to me.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_02: Forget that.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna call the cop I'm gonna dig deeper than that.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_06: Did you see the situation that just happened?
1:10:16
SPEAKER_06: Something is so deep.
1:10:17
SPEAKER_06: So is that he's very good.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_06: Let's ask his girl how deep he can really dig.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_02: Trump's exactly.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_02: I would dig it deep if you call me back.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_06: Oh, really?
1:10:27
SPEAKER_06: But like I said, like I said, look at the situation with that white woman in the corner store.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_06: A black little nine-year-old walks by.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, her black ass.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_06: She called a fucking cops.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_07: I mean, that's what she's trying to do.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_06: It's a nine-year-old boy.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_06: She's black.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_07: It's a nine-year-old fucking boy.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_07: She was a boy boy.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_02: He walked past her.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, you think the mom wouldn't see that?
1:10:50
SPEAKER_12: Listen, but that's what she's saying.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_12: Maybe the ass was fat.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_12: Corner store Carolina.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_07: No matter how you put it, it's a nine-year-old.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_07: What does that have to do with Trump and Kanye?
1:10:57
SPEAKER_02: No, well, you're too fucking privileged.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: Right now, the climate, it's causing a lot of white people to sort of be empowered in a certain way that maybe they weren't before when Obama was president, right?
1:11:08
SPEAKER_02: So feel maybe they might feel a little more entitled.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_02: They're just racially motivated things.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_02: Trump that seems to be happening very frequently now.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_07: It's definitely a response to the Obama uh election.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_07: I agree with you.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_07: But this is my point.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_07: Kanye West is not a politician.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_12: Thank you.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_07: Kanye West is not a person that we should be paying attention to for things like this.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_07: Thank you.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_07: He's just trying to sell music.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_07: I am not damaging.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm saying.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_07: Look, we got one.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_07: That's why he says we have Kanye.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_07: Like he said that during his little speeches.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_07: We have Kanye.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_07: That's the damaging part.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_07: I agree with that.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_07: Red Brett has a point.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_12: As far as you know, responding to K.O.C.O.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_12: saying, you know, uh Kim K is handling her situation or her uh prison reform and things like that, her interaction with the president different differently than Kanye is to the point that you brought up, AG, he has albums to sell.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_12: Kim K is probably locked into the e channel for the next 20 fucking seasons.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_12: She has a steady paycheck coming in.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_12: Kanye's income is very hit or miss in the sense of his music can be hit or miss, and Yeezys can be in effect today and out of style tomorrow.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_12: So you know what I'm saying?
1:12:24
SPEAKER_12: He has to he has to do certain shit.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_12: And for instance, I think this last like I said, I think this last bill that Trump just signed regarding the whole music industry and um you know.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_12: They get more money for the streaming.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_12: I think that that was part of Kanye's uh personal agenda and things like that.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_12: So to to you know agree with AG once again, I think people need to stop feeding into it or stop really paying attention to it because I mean, yeah, it's hard to ignore it.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_12: It's hard not to, it's freaking everywhere.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_12: I'm saying it's hard not to ignore, but there's so many other things going on.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_12: No, I know.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_02: I don't let it rally up.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't I just don't take him seriously.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_02: Like whenever I hear him, I just think.
1:13:16
SPEAKER_12: He's not a politician, and neither is Trump.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_12: They're both businessmen.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_12: They're both businessmen hacking the country up a little better for themselves.
1:13:26
SPEAKER_12: And it may be to the expense of everyone else, but this is America.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_12: America with three K's, okay?
1:13:33
SPEAKER_12: And it is what it is.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_12: Deal, you know, not I'm not saying deal with it, get over, but you know what?
1:13:38
SPEAKER_12: You have to do what they're doing in a sense, worry about self-preservation.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_12: Okay, am I gonna let this affect my daily income?
1:13:45
SPEAKER_12: Am I really gonna let this affect my life?
1:13:47
SPEAKER_12: Am I losing my job right now because of this?
1:13:49
SPEAKER_12: No.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_07: But you gotta look at the people that have supported Kanye, like myself.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_07: I was a Kanye fan, and I seen the writing on the wall with this nigga.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_07: When Yesus was coming out, I was like, Yeah, I'm off of Kanye.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_07: Y'all can check my tweets.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_07: But the point I'm trying to make is that it's hurtful for somebody to look up to Kanye for these kind of like, yo, I need some music that's gonna make me feel proud.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_07: And the music shouldn't be that space, but it is, you know, it's part of our souls, part of our our whole system.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_07: And I need somebody that's gonna uplift me with songs like Jesus Walks and shit that makes me feel proud about being a black person and things like that.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_07: Because that's what we turn to music for, to, you know, for liberation.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_07: And to turn back and be like, I'm gonna make trash music on.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_12: Down self-slave blocks.
1:14:34
SPEAKER_12: White folks don't try this at home.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_07: And then number two, like, I'm gonna wear the MAGA hat with the Kaepernick sweater.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_07: It's things like that that make people look like, yo, Kanye, you can't be the guy that does this, bro.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_12: You cannot be because you're like, are those are those not too polar opposites?
1:14:49
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
1:14:49
SPEAKER_12: Alright then, it defines it.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_12: Listen, don't be able to do it.
1:14:52
SPEAKER_12: Let it let it let it let it let it.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_12: There's just certain things that you have to let go.
1:14:59
SPEAKER_12: Like, don't feed into it.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_12: You know, feed feeding into it even this long is what?
1:15:06
SPEAKER_12: Don't give him the attention.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_12: Like at this point, at this point, it's like, okay, I don't purchase the shoes or the music.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people are saying all this shit, but they're still buying the Yeezys and they're still, you know, buying the album.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_02: So it's like for me, I don't there's other comfortable shoes.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_02: There's too many shoes out there.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_06: Okay, musically, and the resale values.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_02: If I like what he's saying, I'm not gonna support him.
1:15:28
SPEAKER_02: That's the end of the end of the store.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_02: That's your right as a consumer.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_07: And that's how you affect things.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_12: Put your money where your mouth is.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_12: Musically, I think he's amazing.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_12: I supporters music.
1:15:38
SPEAKER_07: Did you liked his last three albums personally?
1:15:40
SPEAKER_12: Um his I actually liked his last album.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_07: It was Ye, Kids See Ghost, and what was the one after that?
1:15:46
SPEAKER_07: Before that?
1:15:46
SPEAKER_07: The Life of Pablo.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_07: You like all the album?
1:15:47
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I like Life Pablo.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_12: I liked I liked the life, the life of Pablo, and I liked uh his last one.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I I honestly like that album.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_06: Did you like it sonically?
1:15:56
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I really did.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_06: I'm not gonna beat the shit into it.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_06: I had a point with the sonic.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_06: Maybe I could.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_12: Like I said, I I understand.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_12: I understand Connie in a different perspective.
1:16:08
SPEAKER_12: I understand him or what he's trying to say with certain shit or whatever.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_12: But going back to musically, I still think musically he's trying.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_12: No, I still think he's that motherfucker.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_07: Alright, so now that we're done.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah, he's listening the motherland didn't disown him.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_12: He's he's in the motherfucker.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_12: They went in fucking broadcasts.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_12: No, no, no, you can't you can't say that.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_12: Bring some business over there.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_07: No, no, I'm gonna finish this whole music thing with the hip hop debate with uh the nigga that doesn't believe the hip-hop.
1:16:40
SPEAKER_07: Before you go to that quick snippet that wasn't a topic, go for it.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_07: Vic Mincer and the whole XX and Tassion thing.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_07: Okay, give us some uh insight on that.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_10: Triple extension.
1:16:50
SPEAKER_07: Triple extension.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_07: That kid is talented, man.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_07: Even though he's a woman that's basically that was basically Vic Minta's whole argument.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_07: Like he's a talented artist and whatever, but he doesn't feel like he should deserve these awards.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_07: One he won award at the BET.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_07: What does that do for him?
1:17:06
SPEAKER_02: And he won Diddy with the AMAs, too.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_02: He won an award at the AMAs.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_02: His mom, his mom was giving that sex to shoes.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_07: That's what Vic Mincer is saying.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_02: But are we holding, but aren't we holding this for women beater?
1:17:23
SPEAKER_07: Like in Hollywood, which wasn't even proven, which is sexual.
1:17:31
SPEAKER_07: But regardless of the fact after that, Vic Mincer actually called the city.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_12: Not for nothing not trying to be not to not being you know insensitive to it, but how can you know the investigation continue if he's dead?
1:17:43
SPEAKER_07: Like you said, like you can't question him anymore.
1:17:47
SPEAKER_07: He was also anti-gay too.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_07: He beat a gay guy almost half to death.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_07: What I'm not anti-gay.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_07: Who?
1:17:51
SPEAKER_07: I'm anti-gay?
1:17:52
SPEAKER_07: How am I anti-gay?
1:17:56
SPEAKER_02: Wait, wait, wait.
1:17:56
SPEAKER_02: You just said, did you say that lifestyle was negative?
1:17:59
SPEAKER_09: Or you just said you don't want that for your children.
1:18:01
SPEAKER_09: I just don't want that for our children.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_09: Okay, okay.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I think that was his point.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_09: He just didn't want it for his children.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_06: I remember that yet.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna just speak on that topic that Zap brought up.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_06: What I really do like about that whole situation is that he did say what he said in the freestyle, but he also went on Instagram, he apologized to the to the parents and the family.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_06: And like, I didn't mean to really say what I say, but I'm not gonna take my words back.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_06: Because at the end of the day, if someone's in that field and you're doing certain things, you have to be held accountable.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_06: Do you listen to Fabulous's music?
1:18:36
SPEAKER_06: I did.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_06: Punch you in your face, motherfucker.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_06: I knocked it.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_06: Oh, I'm sorry you said fabulous.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_06: I did look at him.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_06: That's right.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_06: I looked at him a different way because of my own personal situation.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_06: So I did look at him away because in my mind, there's no reason.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_06: Are you a battered husband?
1:18:52
SPEAKER_12: Uh huh.
1:18:52
SPEAKER_12: You're a battered husband?
1:18:53
SPEAKER_06: I'm not a battered husband.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_12: A battered husband.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_12: You get beat?
1:18:56
SPEAKER_12: No.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_12: This is why you feel sensitive?
1:18:58
SPEAKER_12: No.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_06: Oh, you beat women?
1:18:59
SPEAKER_06: No, I don't beat women.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_06: But like I said, fabulous?
1:19:01
unknown: He's seen it happening?
1:19:03
unknown: Yes.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_07: No, I was in a situation.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_16: My little sister's like a diehard fashion.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_07: Is she aware of what fabulous is?
1:19:08
SPEAKER_07: You putting hands on someone?
1:19:10
SPEAKER_02: Well, not that she's cool, but you know, she still likes some music.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's still like.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_02: I haven't listened to any of his recent shit at all.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_07: Interesting.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_02: Life of Pablo, I think, was the last was the last album.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_02: I downloaded my phone.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so the reason why I haven't downloaded any songs with his features.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_06: Being around a situation like that, I could see why he said like what he said.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_06: And I could see why he apologized to Fame.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_06: Because no, no Family want to be in the crowd hearing somebody bash the dead son.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_06: But at the end of the day, what you do, you have to be accountable for no matter what.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_06: How can I be accountable for dead?
1:19:46
SPEAKER_06: Because it's not.
1:19:46
SPEAKER_06: It's for the future, you know.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_02: It's basically like future artists and future artists.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_02: That's not okay.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_06: We can't we can't be saying like, look, think about it.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_06: We're looking up to these artists.
1:19:55
SPEAKER_06: God knows we.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_06: Artists.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_06: Not artists.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_06: Artists.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_06: Not we, but like a lot of people, majority of people look up to artists.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_06: That's parents' fault.
1:20:03
SPEAKER_06: So that's a different argument.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_06: When they're looking up to artists, we can't have our children looking up to people that's what they're gonna make good sonically music, but I'm gonna beat a woman.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_06: You get what I'm saying?
1:20:17
SPEAKER_07: Listen, but at the same time, I don't feel Vic Minzer has a place in saying that because of the fact that he too, like on the Breakfast Club, admitted.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_07: So he's a he's a hypocrite.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_07: That's what you're saying.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_07: Basically, he has a DV charge and choked his girlfriend.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_07: So, but couldn't he be a guy that's like, listen, I choked my girl and I was wrong, and what extension also did was wrong.
1:20:35
SPEAKER_07: This is what I'm gonna say.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_07: We should not be being praised for doing wrong shit.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_07: This is what I'm gonna say.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_06: It depends on how the situation happens.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_07: I read it as an extension.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_06: It depends on how the situation happens.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_06: Choking a bitch is choking a bitch.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_06: What?
1:20:47
SPEAKER_06: No, it's not because if you're fucking her and she says choke me, that's not still what you're gonna do.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_06: Okay, okay, okay.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_06: If you leave a bruise, okay, but look, if you're doing that and you leave a bruise and you leave a bruise, she can run with it and say, Yes, you abuse me.
1:20:58
SPEAKER_06: Right or wrong.
1:20:59
SPEAKER_06: Dick good, she doesn't have a motive.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_16: She just has a motive to do that.
1:21:02
SPEAKER_16: She's just gonna run away from the dick while fucking.
1:21:04
SPEAKER_06: That's different.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_06: We get into argument the following day.
1:21:07
SPEAKER_06: What's she gonna do?
1:21:08
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna get this motherfucker back.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_06: I don't think logically, I think emotionally.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_17: Um, excuse me, we do think.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_17: Don't even start that argument.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_17: Don't even start that argument, chubs.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_17: You don't want it.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_17: Don't you?
1:21:19
SPEAKER_17: Yo, you got my point.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_17: We don't think logically.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_17: Excuse me.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, you gotta explain what's going on.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_02: What?
1:21:27
SPEAKER_02: Strategically.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_02: What?
1:21:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
1:21:30
SPEAKER_02: Listen, just because you have emotions doesn't mean you're not logically.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_02: Doesn't mean you're not logical.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_02: If I catch you on the wrong week, if I catch you on the wrong week of the month, if I catch you on the week of the month, listen, you can't just get me some trifling.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_17: No, wait, no, no, no, no.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_02: Just this other week, this Florida man flew from freaking Florida, flew to Chicago, fine his ex-girlfriend's um current boyfriend, hit him in the head with a tire and cut his dick off.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_02: But women are emotional.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_00: But women is the tribal and shit.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, but I'm saying women violently violent.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_00: Listen, I'm bringing up vertical.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_02: Specifically, men are the more violent, right?
1:22:20
SPEAKER_02: Women the past.
1:22:21
SPEAKER_00: But when women do it, young people and I'm not gonna kill Ray Public.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_02: But don't you think it takes a lot to actually do the friggin' murder?
1:22:31
SPEAKER_02: That's a lot of emotion, that's a lot of rain.
1:22:34
SPEAKER_17: That's a lot of rain.
1:22:35
SPEAKER_05: You watch SBU, both of them do as much bad shit as y'all do.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_05: And that man is both.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_17: Who ain't the fucking apple?
1:22:48
SPEAKER_11: Who ain't the fucking apple?
1:22:50
SPEAKER_11: Hold on.
1:22:51
SPEAKER_17: We wouldn't ruin this shit.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_17: This would not be happening.
1:22:53
SPEAKER_11: Who ain't the fucking apple?
1:22:54
SPEAKER_11: Hold on.
1:22:55
SPEAKER_11: Who ain't the apple?
1:22:56
SPEAKER_11: Let me say this shit.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_17: That is hearsay.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_11: A man wrote the Christian.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_11: Do you believe in Christ?
1:23:08
SPEAKER_17: Listen, you can listen, listen, listen.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_17: You can believe in God and not the Bible.
1:23:12
SPEAKER_17: The Bible is not a good thing.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_17: A man wrote the Bible.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_17: Do you celebrate Christmas?
1:23:28
SPEAKER_00: Dominican.
1:23:38
SPEAKER_17: We don't actually a book and then it had enough popularity five hundred years later, that could be considered the Bible.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_17: That's what happened to the Bible.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_17: It's mad made.
1:23:49
SPEAKER_07: Okay, King.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_17: Exactly.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_17: God did not write the Bible.
1:23:52
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:23:52
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_07: He sent the message to niggas.
1:23:55
SPEAKER_07: I am not a big thing.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_07: Oh my god.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_07: He sent the message to men because men could comprehend it.
1:24:02
SPEAKER_07: This is getting off.
1:24:04
SPEAKER_07: Hold on, Dora.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_07: Excuse me, that's a little bit.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_07: So let's just uh women allowed to read the stuff.
1:24:12
SPEAKER_07: Let's just get back to the beginning.
1:24:14
SPEAKER_15: You're not even allowed to talk.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_15: You try to sit here yesterday and say women are logically stupid.
1:24:21
SPEAKER_15: Yes, you did.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_15: Sword of God.
1:24:23
SPEAKER_15: So the guy.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_11: She has sound bites.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_11: She has sound bites.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_15: You said that women are logically men are fueled by their ego.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_17: Y'all are more emotional.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_02: So let me ask all the women in the room a question.
1:24:35
SPEAKER_02: Hold on, hold on.
1:24:36
SPEAKER_02: They think certain emotions aren't the same.
1:24:38
SPEAKER_02: Like anger isn't the same.
1:24:40
SPEAKER_06: Let me ask all the women in this.
1:24:42
SPEAKER_06: Let me ask all the women in this room one question.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_06: Women.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_06: Women.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_06: Women.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_06: Let me ask one question.
1:24:48
SPEAKER_06: If you guys are at dinner.
1:24:50
SPEAKER_06: Women's.
1:24:50
SPEAKER_06: If you guys are at dinner.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_06: Stop yelling.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_06: Right?
1:24:52
SPEAKER_06: Here we go.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_06: And your man that you're talking to sends three texts and flips his phone face down.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_06: What's going through your mind?
1:24:59
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a shit.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_02: I trust my man.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_06: What's going through your mind?
1:25:03
unknown: Nothing.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_06: He's on his phone every single fucking day.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_06: And hold on, hold on.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_06: The other day, the other day, miss.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_06: You look like a kid.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_06: I'm deliking.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_17: Nothing to do with the men and more emotional.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_17: Because look at you.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_17: You're being that's been a little bit more.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_17: I'm not being emotional.
1:25:21
SPEAKER_06: I'm not into killer.
1:25:22
SPEAKER_06: I know what I've got.
1:25:22
SPEAKER_06: I'm the one.
1:25:23
SPEAKER_02: I really would not give a fuck.
1:25:25
SPEAKER_02: I really do not care about that shit.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_07: If we catch you guys on the wrong week of the month, you guys more might be more inclined to be more emotional.
1:25:33
SPEAKER_06: Niggas come home late.
1:25:34
SPEAKER_06: Where you been?
1:25:35
SPEAKER_06: Who you with?
1:25:35
SPEAKER_06: What the fuck you doing?
1:25:36
SPEAKER_06: How's that work?
1:25:37
SPEAKER_06: You dating.
1:25:37
SPEAKER_06: Work till three in the morning.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, listen.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_12: Listen, Arian is talking about all the time and I don't have to ask you.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_12: Can we say he is?
1:25:48
SPEAKER_12: Because I'm can we just totally agree that there are there are fucked up people on both sides of the gender.
1:25:57
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_02: But I'm saying men are still emotional.
1:26:00
SPEAKER_02: Don't try to discredit and say men are not there.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
1:26:06
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
1:26:07
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:26:08
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_02: Louder means that you're more emotional.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_06: Why in arguments y'all feel getting louder is going to make y'all win?
1:26:15
SPEAKER_02: One.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_12: That's just for women who listen to Cardi B.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_07: No, it's just have this argument at the tail end of the podcast.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_07: Like, let's get through some of our topics first.
1:26:25
SPEAKER_07: We have some important topics.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_07: It's a great topic, actually.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_02: So um Hope we didn't hurt your ears to the listeners.
1:26:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're gonna hear that technically.
1:26:33
SPEAKER_07: What the fuck?
1:26:34
SPEAKER_07: How many of their women crying?
1:26:36
SPEAKER_07: That's like the whole RB genre.
1:26:37
SPEAKER_07: We're gonna do that a little bit later.
1:26:39
SPEAKER_07: Fuck that.
1:26:40
SPEAKER_06: Speaking of genres, I'm getting tired of hearing Bodak yelling.
1:26:42
SPEAKER_06: Everybody wanna yell at my face.
1:26:43
SPEAKER_07: I need uh TC to have a mic in his hand.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_07: Fuck Bodak yelling.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_07: Because um I need we just want to talk about bringing in culture.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_14: He did that ugly thing.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_08: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
1:27:01
SPEAKER_07: Let's get it ready to rumble.
1:27:05
SPEAKER_07: Dang, dang, dang.
1:27:06
SPEAKER_07: I think this is going to be a very spirited debate.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_07: I want everybody to get involved.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_07: Everybody should chime in.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_07: Everybody has an opinion.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_07: I just want to make sure.
1:27:13
SPEAKER_07: I just want to make sure he has a mic in hand.
1:27:15
SPEAKER_07: One person at a time, folks.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_07: So this whole conversation occurred because I think I mentioned to him one day.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_07: Who's him?
1:27:24
SPEAKER_07: Who's him?
1:27:25
SPEAKER_07: Uh TC the Challenger, the net and our edit our uh engineer on occasion.
1:27:31
SPEAKER_07: On a very special occasion, by the way.
1:27:34
SPEAKER_07: Um he doesn't think that hip hop is black culture.
1:27:39
SPEAKER_07: What do you believe, sir?
1:27:40
SPEAKER_05: Alright, first first off, what is black?
1:27:43
SPEAKER_05: What does it mean to be black?
1:27:44
SPEAKER_07: Um, in terms of biology, in terms of skin color.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_05: It's only I I personally think it's only skin color.
1:27:51
SPEAKER_07: No, that's not true, because there's Indian men that walk around New York City right now that have the same complexion as me and they're not black men.
1:27:57
SPEAKER_05: But what makes them their culture is not the same as.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_05: Of course.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_05: Alright.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_05: So what makes a black what makes the black what makes up the black race?
1:28:08
SPEAKER_07: Okay, what makes up the black race biology is like the easiest question.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_07: I mean the easiest answer to your question.
1:28:14
SPEAKER_07: You see how everybody in this room can identify as black, we all have the same similarities.
1:28:19
SPEAKER_07: Everybody in here has the same similarities.
1:28:20
SPEAKER_07: If you really look around the page in close detail, if I walked a white person into this room, I walked an Indian man into this room and I walked an Asian man.
1:28:27
SPEAKER_12: Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute.
1:28:28
SPEAKER_12: Sorry, sorry to cut you off.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_12: Sorry to cut you off.
1:28:31
SPEAKER_07: You gay.
1:28:35
SPEAKER_07: No, I didn't say it was a problem.
1:28:36
SPEAKER_07: I'm just letting you know that you're gay.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_07: Red has a point to make.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_12: You just uh stated the fact that everyone in here identifies as black.
1:28:45
SPEAKER_12: No, I didn't say that.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_07: You just said we have black characteristics.
1:28:47
SPEAKER_12: We have black characteristics.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_12: Okay, okay.
1:28:51
SPEAKER_07: I'm careful with my.
1:28:52
SPEAKER_07: I can't I can't choose what to identify as.
1:28:53
SPEAKER_07: I'm just letting them know what biology tells them.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_07: I can't choose what they you you can identify as whatever you want to identify as.
1:29:00
SPEAKER_07: I'm just letting you know what your biology is going to tell us.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_07: I identify as a pin, but does that answer your question?
1:29:09
SPEAKER_05: Uh does that answer your question?
1:29:13
SPEAKER_05: Uh no, I get I get that.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_05: My thing is.
1:29:17
SPEAKER_05: Well, what did you say?
1:29:20
SPEAKER_02: So I think to start off that debate, what do you think identifies a black culture?
1:29:25
SPEAKER_02: Like what do you think?
1:29:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't think there is a black culture.
1:29:27
SPEAKER_02: If it's not hip hop or what?
1:29:29
SPEAKER_05: I feel like black is a a term to group a bunch of ethnics into a category.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_05: So individually, we are all unique, right?
1:29:39
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
1:29:40
SPEAKER_05: A black, well, quote unquote black person uh from the Caribbean is totally different from an African.
1:29:47
SPEAKER_05: They don't relate.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_05: The only thing that they relate to is let's say their biological features.
1:29:52
SPEAKER_05: No, that's not true.
1:29:52
SPEAKER_07: If we both get pulled over, we had the same response.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_07: And I what?
1:29:55
SPEAKER_07: If we both get pulled over at the same time.
1:29:59
SPEAKER_07: If you're not gonna get pulled over, it's not the same response.
1:30:01
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_07: So that's why there's a difference in culture.
1:30:04
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so so TC, I'm gonna ask you a simple, I'm gonna ask you three questions.
1:30:09
SPEAKER_07: This is about hip hop, by the way.
1:30:10
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna ask you three questions because he said there's no culture for black people.
1:30:13
SPEAKER_06: What is Salsa?
1:30:15
SPEAKER_05: Salsa.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_05: The dance.
1:30:16
SPEAKER_06: What culture is that?
1:30:17
SPEAKER_05: No, no, you have to do that.
1:30:18
SPEAKER_05: What culture is that?
1:30:18
SPEAKER_05: No, it's not a good thing.
1:30:20
SPEAKER_05: He's missing what I'm saying.
1:30:21
SPEAKER_05: I'm saying that in classic.
1:30:22
SPEAKER_05: I'm saying there's all these different stories.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_05: There's all of these different things.
1:30:28
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's uh it was it was started.
1:30:30
SPEAKER_05: Alright, let me answer the question.
1:30:31
SPEAKER_05: But he's missing what I'm trying to say.
1:30:32
SPEAKER_05: But answer the question.
1:30:33
SPEAKER_05: Uh Salsa, uh, from what I've read and heard, that it comes from uh some African people.
1:30:40
SPEAKER_06: But in culture this day, would that not be Spanish culture?
1:30:45
SPEAKER_06: What the fuck?
1:30:46
SPEAKER_02: I believe so.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_02: Whenever the Spanish community, okay.
1:30:51
SPEAKER_06: Whenever you see somebody read lighting up hookah, what culture does that come from?
1:30:55
SPEAKER_06: Spanish culture, right?
1:30:57
SPEAKER_07: That's an Arab culture.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_07: That's Arab motherfucker.
1:30:59
SPEAKER_06: Okay, Arab culture, but Dominicans ran with it.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_05: Okay, what do you think?
1:31:04
SPEAKER_05: Okay, now it's like a good one.
1:31:06
SPEAKER_05: But I'm saying now, now, now it's been appropriate in Spanish culture, right?
1:31:10
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so it's been adopted.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_06: No, I'm saying for what's trying to say.
1:31:13
SPEAKER_06: So, so Ralph, if it has adoption.
1:31:17
SPEAKER_06: But that's what I'm saying.
1:31:17
SPEAKER_06: So, Ralph, if I just named you two things that has a culture, how can you sit here and tell me that there's no black culture, there's nothing that makes people.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_05: No, you see, like I said, you missed what I said.
1:31:25
SPEAKER_05: I'm saying that black, I said earlier, if you were listening, black, I feel is a term used to group a bunch of different backgrounds underneath the same umbrella, right?
1:31:34
SPEAKER_05: Because if you was to if I was to ask you what's who are considered white people, right?
1:31:38
SPEAKER_05: I think it was what what people weren't considered white, but they're white.
1:31:42
SPEAKER_05: They weren't considered white.
1:31:44
SPEAKER_05: But there, look at the same, they have all the similar fit, they have all the same features, but why aren't they considered white?
1:31:49
SPEAKER_05: But that's like if I say what is the ideal of what is white?
1:31:52
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's what this ideal of white.
1:31:53
SPEAKER_06: That's like if I say Spanish, we're gonna go and say Puerto Rican, Dominican, it depends on people from Spain, and it's not a good thing.
1:31:59
SPEAKER_05: If you was not asked somebody who understood who is gonna be like smart enough.
1:32:03
SPEAKER_06: Oh, you're talking about people, but I'm Spain.
1:32:05
SPEAKER_10: But I'm saying you get which is I get where you're coming from.
1:32:08
SPEAKER_10: I mean, you you're just basically saying there's no such thing as black anything.
1:32:11
SPEAKER_05: No, I feel like this is just a term, uh human being created to just differentiate to just to split the humanity.
1:32:17
SPEAKER_05: No, but that's the origin race.
1:32:18
SPEAKER_05: Just the original trick.
1:32:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, segregation.
1:32:21
SPEAKER_05: There we go.
1:32:21
SPEAKER_05: That is absolutely true.
1:32:22
SPEAKER_05: Because we are different, like and all of them are obviously we're the same sex.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_05: All of the people who are who come from all of the people who like comes from Africa uh or migrated from Africa to different places, yo, I I can I do not relate to uh person in Kenya, right?
1:32:37
SPEAKER_05: We have different cult we have different traditions.
1:32:40
SPEAKER_05: No no no no no no uh you know I I'm sorry.
1:32:43
SPEAKER_05: I wasn't being specific enough.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_05: I do not and through through lifestyle, I do not relate because I don't participate.
1:32:49
SPEAKER_05: No, no, I there is reasons that we there are things that we can relate on.
1:32:53
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
1:32:54
SPEAKER_07: But I'm saying you so then you're you're you're contradicting yourself.
1:32:58
SPEAKER_05: You're not only telling me you don't relate, but I'm you're only gonna tell me that we're related by how we how we will be treated right in certain places.
1:33:08
SPEAKER_05: That's how that's how our features, that's it.
1:33:11
SPEAKER_07: That's how culture it's not even about features, because if I get changed, that's not how culture works.
1:33:15
SPEAKER_05: Culture is something you participate in.
1:33:16
SPEAKER_07: No, you don't have to automatically participate in the culture.
1:33:19
SPEAKER_07: There's Americans.
1:33:20
SPEAKER_07: We have American culture, right?
1:33:21
SPEAKER_07: Do you watch baseball?
1:33:22
SPEAKER_07: Do you watch football?
1:33:23
SPEAKER_07: No.
1:33:24
SPEAKER_07: But are you are you an American?
1:33:25
SPEAKER_05: I am an American.
1:33:25
SPEAKER_07: So you're not participating in American culture, but you're still an American, right?
1:33:28
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_07: So your point is moot.
1:33:30
SPEAKER_07: Your point is moot right there.
1:33:30
SPEAKER_07: You lost right there.
1:33:31
SPEAKER_07: No, I did not.
1:33:32
SPEAKER_07: How did you not lose?
1:33:33
SPEAKER_07: Because America, you said these are.
1:33:37
SPEAKER_07: You said you must participate.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_07: You're not participating, so you're not American.
1:33:40
SPEAKER_05: D barbecue.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_05: No, but that makes sense.
1:33:43
SPEAKER_07: D barbecue lose, nigga.
1:33:44
SPEAKER_07: That's it.
1:33:45
SPEAKER_07: But let's get to hip-hop.
1:33:46
SPEAKER_07: This is my point.
1:33:47
SPEAKER_07: I don't give a fuck about this race shit.
1:33:48
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:33:48
SPEAKER_07: We can do this all day.
1:33:49
SPEAKER_07: The reason why hip hop is black culture is because it was created by a black man, a person with a dark skin.
1:33:55
SPEAKER_07: No, it's not, it's not a skin color because Puerto Rican.
1:33:57
SPEAKER_07: What is black?
1:33:58
SPEAKER_07: It's fucking her complexion.
1:34:00
SPEAKER_07: But what is black?
1:34:01
SPEAKER_07: Because it was in the Bronx.
1:34:02
SPEAKER_07: What is black?
1:34:03
SPEAKER_07: I just defined it for you.
1:34:05
SPEAKER_07: Like five minutes ago.
1:34:06
SPEAKER_07: We can remember.
1:34:07
SPEAKER_07: You talking about biologically?
1:34:10
SPEAKER_12: Sonically.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_07: You gotta tell me.
1:34:14
SPEAKER_07: We gotta talk about killing each other.
1:34:16
SPEAKER_07: Murder, death, kill.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, murder, death, kill.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_07: You gotta tell me what you Bang Bang, shoot him up, nigga dash.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_07: What do you want me to define it for you as?
1:34:23
SPEAKER_07: Because there's a lot of different ways to define it.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_07: Because like I said, I'm telling you, there's a dude that could have grew up around the corner from me who's white, but he experienced everything I experienced, and he is part of black culture.
1:34:33
SPEAKER_07: He might not be a black man.
1:34:34
SPEAKER_07: He might not, when he gets harassed by cops, he might not have the same.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_07: Where's white boys?
1:34:38
SPEAKER_07: But I can't tell him that he has not participated within black culture.
1:34:41
SPEAKER_07: If I go and live in the DR, but I was born in.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, the DR.
1:34:46
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, NDR.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_02: It's about Dominican Republic, so he's correct.
1:34:49
SPEAKER_02: I know I was right.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_02: That's correct.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_12: But it's but when you refer to her, you say NDR or he's still correct.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_12: But he's still correct.
1:34:56
SPEAKER_07: Technically, he's Sonically, I'm Sonically, I'm definitely right.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_07: I didn't say you were wrong.
1:35:05
SPEAKER_07: They're from here.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_07: But if I go there and raise my kids there, what are my kids gonna be?
1:35:09
SPEAKER_07: What am I?
1:35:09
SPEAKER_07: I'm an American man that went to DR, but that culture, I'm now part of that culture.
1:35:13
SPEAKER_07: Like the Jamaica, like the Chinese Jamaican people.
1:35:15
SPEAKER_07: Before this woman that's sitting next to me, I didn't give a fuck.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_07: I didn't know, I thought empanadas and patalito.
1:35:19
SPEAKER_07: I didn't know what a patalito was, but now I know all of this shit.
1:35:22
SPEAKER_07: I'm adopting her culture.
1:35:23
SPEAKER_07: Culture is a thing that you can swerve through, bro.
1:35:26
SPEAKER_07: But black culture.
1:35:27
SPEAKER_07: Pasolitos question.
1:35:28
SPEAKER_12: Pasolito question.
1:35:30
SPEAKER_12: Raisins and no raisins, people.
1:35:31
SPEAKER_12: No raisins.
1:35:32
SPEAKER_17: No raisins! They serve no purpose, okay?
1:35:36
SPEAKER_17: I like the raisins.
1:35:39
SPEAKER_17: They ruined the extreme sweet.
1:35:41
SPEAKER_17: Like you said.
1:35:44
SPEAKER_02: The people who like raisins are real different.
1:35:47
SPEAKER_12: Because you know what?
1:35:48
SPEAKER_12: Like that with the cooked olives in it too.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_17: Like, raisins are free.
1:35:52
SPEAKER_17: I don't need all that.
1:35:54
SPEAKER_17: No raisins.
1:35:55
SPEAKER_17: I don't like raisins in general.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_07: Fruit and meat don't match.
1:35:59
SPEAKER_17: It's like the texture.
1:36:02
SPEAKER_17: But okay, back to the page.
1:36:03
SPEAKER_07: Back to the argument.
1:36:04
SPEAKER_12: I'm sorry, do you eat pineapple on your ham?
1:36:06
SPEAKER_12: Do you eat pineapple on your ham?
1:36:07
unknown: I don't like that shit.
1:36:08
SPEAKER_12: Pineapple in what?
1:36:09
SPEAKER_12: On your ham.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_07: That should taste good.
1:36:11
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah.
1:36:11
SPEAKER_12: So that's sweet and salt.
1:36:12
SPEAKER_07: Dominican pizza, too.
1:36:13
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but I still don't like pintelitos with fucking pinnacles.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
1:36:16
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so don't send it.
1:36:17
SPEAKER_07: Olives is better.
1:36:18
SPEAKER_07: This nigga Dominican now?
1:36:19
SPEAKER_06: I have tried it.
1:36:20
SPEAKER_06: Oh, you're olives are good.
1:36:22
SPEAKER_12: But you know what?
1:36:23
SPEAKER_12: To my defense, there was only one person.
1:36:25
SPEAKER_12: This nigga's not even on the mic.
1:36:26
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, I know.
1:36:27
SPEAKER_12: There was only one person who can make the pastelitos with the uh raisins, and it came out.
1:36:34
SPEAKER_12: Shout out to Fayita.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_12: Shout out to Fayette.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_05: Why you always shout somebody else?
1:36:37
SPEAKER_05: I don't like it.
1:36:38
SPEAKER_05: So let's wrap this shit up.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_05: No, my thing is what I'm trying to, what I want to say is that we are not all, we are all more than just this term.
1:36:47
SPEAKER_05: That's what I'm trying to say.
1:36:48
SPEAKER_05: Because we come from different backgrounds.
1:36:50
SPEAKER_07: That's fine, but you can't.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_07: Go get pulled over and find out what you are.
1:36:53
SPEAKER_07: Hip hop is not a subculture or a culture of the black person.
1:36:57
SPEAKER_07: So you're saying, yo, oh my God.
1:36:59
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but a better argument would have been like it's not our culture because we don't own it.
1:37:03
SPEAKER_07: That would have been a much better argument.
1:37:04
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
1:37:04
SPEAKER_07: That's what I was going for.
1:37:06
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
1:37:06
SPEAKER_07: I don't own it anymore.
1:37:08
SPEAKER_07: All these white corporations own the shit.
1:37:09
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but it was started and then it's still being practiced by us, so it is our culture still, though.
1:37:14
SPEAKER_05: Okay, but I think that would have I think that would have been a better argument.
1:37:19
SPEAKER_06: He just said it's still our culture.
1:37:24
SPEAKER_05: No, by the people who participate, the people who participate in the world.
1:37:28
SPEAKER_05: TC, you sound like me right now.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_05: No, no, the people who participate in hip-hop and are fans of hip-hop, appreciators of hip-hop.
1:37:34
SPEAKER_05: Yo, bro, we are make the makers of that culture.
1:37:37
SPEAKER_05: Rock and roll.
1:37:38
SPEAKER_05: But you just told me.
1:37:39
SPEAKER_05: Rock and roll is was a black.
1:37:41
SPEAKER_05: Alright, it was started by Chuck Berry.
1:37:44
SPEAKER_07: No, white musicians are saying this.
1:37:45
SPEAKER_07: I have quotes from John Lennon and uh the nigga Sting, whatever his slash, whatever his name is.
1:37:49
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:37:50
SPEAKER_07: These dudes are telling you that this is what it was.
1:37:53
SPEAKER_06: Look at Jimmy.
1:37:54
SPEAKER_07: The same thing's about to happen to hip hop.
1:37:55
SPEAKER_07: If we allow it to happen, they're gonna prop up these white people, and a hundred years from now, they're gonna be like, oh, this was some white shit.
1:38:00
SPEAKER_07: All right, little.
1:38:00
SPEAKER_07: Think about it.
1:38:01
SPEAKER_07: Why is Little Pumping all these little white motherfucking mics?
1:38:04
SPEAKER_07: I'm talking about people like Lil Xan and Little Pump Pump.
1:38:06
SPEAKER_07: Like, if we allow this shit to continue, and those dudes are Hispanic, by the way, but you never his name is fucking Diego.
1:38:13
SPEAKER_07: But my point is for you to sit here and say that it's not black culture, it's kind of just negative because if you go to Fortnite, which is the hottest game right now, and you see the dance moves that they have in the game, they're doing the fucking shoot dance and fucking Millie rocking, and for somebody like you who is black to say that that's not your culture, it's just it's it's like diminishing the value that we have.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_07: I'm not yo bro.
1:38:37
SPEAKER_02: Do you have a problem being labeled?
1:38:39
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:38:39
SPEAKER_05: No, I'm not I don't have a labeling problem.
1:38:42
SPEAKER_05: But I'm saying, what I'm trying to say is I don't want to feed into that you fucking you're black, right?
1:38:49
SPEAKER_05: And you're white.
1:38:50
SPEAKER_05: Because we are more than that.
1:38:52
SPEAKER_07: It's not a division thing.
1:38:53
SPEAKER_07: I just told you a white person can participate in black culture all the time.
1:38:56
SPEAKER_07: I can go participate in Dominican culture right now.
1:38:59
SPEAKER_07: So that's not the issue.
1:39:00
SPEAKER_07: It's not a division.
1:39:02
SPEAKER_07: It's not a division.
1:39:03
SPEAKER_07: You're making it as a divisive thing.
1:39:04
SPEAKER_05: It's not it was used as I feel like it's a division.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_05: That's what it was used for.
1:39:09
SPEAKER_07: The term black was definitely used for that.
1:39:11
SPEAKER_07: Because there's definitely something.
1:39:13
SPEAKER_11: You just said the key word.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_11: You feel.
1:39:15
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
1:39:15
SPEAKER_11: You feel.
1:39:16
SPEAKER_11: Alright.
1:39:17
SPEAKER_11: Just because you feel where doesn't mean that that's what it is.
1:39:20
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:39:21
SPEAKER_07: I mean, do you concede the loss of this debate yet?
1:39:24
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no.
1:39:24
SPEAKER_05: Because I'm thinking like if you even if you was to ask some Rastafarians in Jamaica about how they feel about non-Rasta's wearing dreadlocks.
1:39:31
SPEAKER_05: They don't fuck with that shit.
1:39:32
SPEAKER_07: No, first of all, you don't have a dread to be Rasta.
1:39:35
SPEAKER_07: Alright.
1:39:36
SPEAKER_07: You don't have to have dreads.
1:39:38
SPEAKER_07: And they don't even really refer to him as dreads.
1:39:41
SPEAKER_06: That's one person that says that.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_06: No, this is this that's a cultural thing.
1:39:44
SPEAKER_06: But TC, that's coming from one of the biggest people that's basically representing that culture, telling you don't have to be dread to be Rasta.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_06: And he could just be the outlier.
1:39:53
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
1:39:53
SPEAKER_06: Because Rasta is more than just dread.
1:39:56
SPEAKER_06: It's the not EMV, it's the way you present yourself.
1:39:59
SPEAKER_06: It's about peace, equality.
1:40:01
SPEAKER_05: But I'm not talking about other people that have dreads trying that have dreads not wanting to be a Rasta.
1:40:07
SPEAKER_05: I'm just talking about I'm not that's what I'm meant to say.
1:40:10
SPEAKER_05: I'm talking about the people that have dreads that don't want to be rosters.
1:40:13
SPEAKER_05: It's a hairstyle.
1:40:14
SPEAKER_05: They're appropriate.
1:40:15
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_05: And they think those other people are appropriate.
1:40:18
SPEAKER_05: And like this means more than whatever y'all are wearing.
1:40:22
SPEAKER_05: The point I'm trying to make is look how you see there's a difference between these two.
1:40:25
SPEAKER_05: Even though we have, we are the same, right?
1:40:27
SPEAKER_05: Because you said we're black, right?
1:40:29
SPEAKER_05: We're the same.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_05: Who's black?
1:40:32
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:40:32
SPEAKER_05: I'm not talking about white people.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_05: Who are you talking about?
1:40:34
SPEAKER_05: I'm talking about anybody.
1:40:36
SPEAKER_05: I'm not only talking about white people.
1:40:37
SPEAKER_05: I'm talking about anybody.
1:40:37
SPEAKER_05: Guess what?
1:40:38
SPEAKER_05: Dress their hair.
1:40:39
SPEAKER_05: Dress their hair.
1:40:40
SPEAKER_05: And a Rastafari man.
1:40:41
SPEAKER_05: And they look at it like, nah, this guy, he, there is more to the dreadlocks.
1:40:45
SPEAKER_05: It is.
1:40:47
SPEAKER_05: But you know, nothing wrong with that.
1:40:49
SPEAKER_05: But I'm saying you see that there's a differentiation between the world.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_05: TC.
1:40:52
SPEAKER_05: Because we are different.
1:40:55
SPEAKER_05: I understand.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_05: We are not only the TC.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_02: So what TC is saying is that black culture is more than just hip-hop.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_02: Okay, TC.
1:41:01
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:41:02
SPEAKER_06: I understand that.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_06: But TC, TC, TC, this is what I'm going to say.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_06: AG, hold on, hold on, hold on.
1:41:07
SPEAKER_06: TC, listen.
1:41:08
SPEAKER_06: They're going to say they're appropriating, but if you ever really speak to a real Rastafarian that has dreads, they'll tell you it's appropriate, but it's the fact that they respect our culture so much that they would do our hairstyles.
1:41:21
SPEAKER_06: The only reason why they would never really come at anybody that really has dreads and don't really follow it because they're not going to sit there and force the fact that you can't eat pork.
1:41:29
SPEAKER_06: You can't eat fish and all that.
1:41:30
SPEAKER_06: They're not going to force that on you.
1:41:31
SPEAKER_06: But it's the fact that you're basically appreciating what we've done.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_07: There's a group of kids that maybe learn a thing like that talking to each other wearing dreadlocks.
1:41:39
SPEAKER_07: And that's the exact opposite of what the whole movement is.
1:41:43
SPEAKER_07: Those are the people they'll look at wrong.
1:41:45
SPEAKER_07: What point are you trying to make?
1:41:49
SPEAKER_07: This black shit don't exist.
1:41:51
SPEAKER_07: Wait, the term black doesn't exist.
1:41:52
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, this black shit don't exist.
1:41:54
SPEAKER_07: That's fine.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_07: You're entitled to that opinion.
1:41:57
SPEAKER_07: But what you're not gonna sit here and tell me is that hip-hop is not a black culture.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_05: It was started by black people, but I think it is uh So what type of culture is saying it's his own culture?
1:42:06
SPEAKER_05: No, I think it's his own culture because multiple more than one uh different walks of life is participating in the world.
1:42:11
SPEAKER_10: Absolutely, but at the end of the day, the labeling that you have an issue with.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_10: That's it.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_10: It's that's really still labeling.
1:42:19
SPEAKER_10: It could be the labeling.
1:42:19
SPEAKER_06: So okay, the issue with it.
1:42:20
SPEAKER_06: To end this whole debate and the discussion, is hip-hop black culture TC?
1:42:25
SPEAKER_05: No, no, I think it's his own culture.
1:42:28
unknown: Why?
1:42:28
SPEAKER_05: Where did it come from?
1:42:29
SPEAKER_05: Why?
1:42:29
SPEAKER_05: Because why just because it belongs to it?
1:42:32
SPEAKER_05: It belongs to all of us now.
1:42:33
SPEAKER_05: It belongs to all of us now because the internet makes it so that we can reach out to everything.
1:42:36
SPEAKER_05: Like the fucking, the uh, what's it called?
1:42:39
SPEAKER_05: If if uh if a word in a slang word in Cali right now was just invented and used all over Twitter, we all see that coming from other different places of the world.
1:42:47
SPEAKER_05: But what are they gonna say?
1:42:48
SPEAKER_05: What is thought?
1:42:49
SPEAKER_05: It's originating the word thought, right?
1:42:50
SPEAKER_05: That came from downstairs.
1:42:51
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna say Chicago thing.
1:42:53
SPEAKER_05: Chicago.
1:42:54
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna credit that to the people from the community that uses this.
1:42:58
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so it's Chicago culture.
1:42:59
SPEAKER_05: Chicago slang.
1:43:00
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, I would say pizza.
1:43:02
SPEAKER_05: Huh?
1:43:03
SPEAKER_07: What is that?
1:43:04
SPEAKER_07: What is deep dish pizza?
1:43:05
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
1:43:05
SPEAKER_05: What the fuck?
1:43:06
SPEAKER_07: Is that Chicago culture?
1:43:07
SPEAKER_07: Is that deep?
1:43:07
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
1:43:07
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
1:43:08
SPEAKER_05: What is Philly cheesesteak?
1:43:09
SPEAKER_05: All right, that's fine.
1:43:10
SPEAKER_05: So these aren't cultures.
1:43:11
SPEAKER_05: Huh?
1:43:11
SPEAKER_05: These aren't cultures.
1:43:12
SPEAKER_05: No, no, I'm saying these are old culture too.
1:43:13
SPEAKER_05: So why is that culture?
1:43:15
SPEAKER_05: Drill music.
1:43:16
SPEAKER_05: Why are you running a cheesesteak up the block?
1:43:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but you're saying that it's black culture only because it was created by the black by a black people.
1:43:23
SPEAKER_07: So why is a Philly cheesesteak a Philly cheesesteak?
1:43:26
SPEAKER_05: Because it was created where?
1:43:27
SPEAKER_05: It was created in the Philly.
1:43:28
SPEAKER_07: So it's not so it's not a Philly cheesesteak then.
1:43:30
SPEAKER_07: It's everybody's cheesesteak, according to you.
1:43:33
SPEAKER_05: Fucking loss, nigga.
1:43:35
SPEAKER_05: That's it.
1:43:36
SPEAKER_05: That makes sense.
1:43:36
SPEAKER_05: But the fucking spreadsheet.
1:43:38
SPEAKER_05: But no, see, I wouldn't just I wouldn't credit the fucking hip-hop hip hop to be.
1:43:47
SPEAKER_05: Wait, hip hop, wait.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna No, I'm not gonna credit the Philly cheesesteak shit.
1:43:50
SPEAKER_05: No, no, hold on.
1:43:56
SPEAKER_05: I'm giving you the credit to hip hop to the originators of that shit.
1:44:01
SPEAKER_05: No, what the fuck the who the fuck would they do?
1:44:06
SPEAKER_05: Who they wanna know we mad at them?
1:44:08
SPEAKER_05: Why don't we give up with the cheesesteak?
1:44:10
SPEAKER_07: So why don't we do that with the cheese thing?
1:44:11
SPEAKER_07: Listen, he's fumbling to do that.
1:44:13
SPEAKER_06: He's fumbling with the table.
1:44:16
SPEAKER_06: He loves throwing me low to talk.
1:44:19
SPEAKER_06: Let's put it up to a vote.
1:44:21
SPEAKER_06: How the one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, two.
1:44:23
SPEAKER_06: There's nine people in the room.
1:44:24
SPEAKER_06: Let's take a vote.
1:44:25
SPEAKER_06: Nah, nah, nah.
1:44:26
SPEAKER_06: It's hip hop, black culture, raise your hand.
1:44:28
SPEAKER_07: It's black fucking culture now.
1:44:30
SPEAKER_05: No, it's not fucking.
1:44:30
SPEAKER_05: TC, fucking.
1:44:31
SPEAKER_05: There's like five.
1:44:32
SPEAKER_06: There's like five people.
1:44:34
unknown: Survey says it is.
1:44:35
SPEAKER_06: Fuck you, nigga.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_06: TC, you lost.
1:44:38
SPEAKER_06: Majority rules.
1:44:39
SPEAKER_06: Majority rules.
1:44:40
SPEAKER_05: Time to wrap it up and let's go.
1:44:42
SPEAKER_05: Only because it was talking about a black man.
1:44:44
SPEAKER_06: Okay, that's what I'm saying.
1:44:45
SPEAKER_05: TC, I'm saying.
1:44:48
SPEAKER_02: Listen, they we're not the only people who participate in it, yes, but it's still.
1:44:53
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't get taken away from them.
1:44:55
SPEAKER_06: That's like Dembo.
1:44:57
SPEAKER_06: Dembo is a Dominican culture.
1:44:59
SPEAKER_06: I think it should be given.
1:45:00
SPEAKER_05: I think it should be.
1:45:01
SPEAKER_05: Just because other people I think it should be Dominican people who still who started it.
1:45:06
SPEAKER_05: That is black people, so it's black culture.
1:45:08
SPEAKER_07: I'm talking about the persons in bulk.
1:45:11
SPEAKER_07: That's not how it works, nigga.
1:45:12
SPEAKER_07: Not the people.
1:45:13
SPEAKER_07: The word is people, not person.
1:45:14
SPEAKER_07: So we gotta find out who the first nigga in Philly to make a cheesesteak, and it should be his cheesesteak.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_07: It should be Phil's cheesesteaks then.
1:45:20
SPEAKER_07: Get the fuck out of here, bro.
1:45:22
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:45:23
SPEAKER_02: Nah, it doesn't.
1:45:25
SPEAKER_02: That's our whole point.
1:45:25
SPEAKER_07: It doesn't lose the move for the black culture just because other people participate.
1:45:30
SPEAKER_07: I didn't come prepared for the shit.
1:45:31
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna take the L.
1:45:32
SPEAKER_09: I told you.
1:45:33
SPEAKER_07: I don't prepare.
1:45:34
SPEAKER_07: You did come prepared for a different type of debate.
1:45:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, let's get on the gay shit.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_17: Oh god.
1:45:44
SPEAKER_07: And I'm personally gonna pass.
1:45:45
SPEAKER_07: I just want to be a moderator in this debate.
1:45:47
SPEAKER_07: I don't want to really get a good idea.
1:45:49
SPEAKER_07: Tarnish a feminist type.
1:45:51
SPEAKER_07: So I can't.
1:45:53
SPEAKER_15: You're not a feminist.
1:45:54
SPEAKER_05: I got a story for y'all right now.
1:45:56
SPEAKER_05: I got a story for y'all.
1:45:59
SPEAKER_05: Story time.
1:45:59
SPEAKER_05: Story time about AG, right?
1:46:01
SPEAKER_05: Here we go.
1:46:01
SPEAKER_05: The tarnishing of the black man by another black man.
1:46:05
SPEAKER_05: So what time I'm chilling with.
1:46:07
SPEAKER_05: I'm over at AG's crib, right?
1:46:09
SPEAKER_05: I'm over at AG's crib.
1:46:10
SPEAKER_05: Now fuck out of here, nigga.
1:46:12
SPEAKER_05: Fuck out of here.
1:46:13
SPEAKER_05: So I'm over at AG's crib, right?
1:46:15
SPEAKER_05: And so his mother comes up to him and she asks him.
1:46:19
SPEAKER_05: You know, she asks him.
1:46:20
SPEAKER_05: Asks.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, Red.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_05: Damn.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_05: Uh police.
1:46:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:46:25
SPEAKER_05: Bramber police.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_05: English police.
1:46:27
SPEAKER_05: And?
1:46:28
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:46:29
SPEAKER_05: Um I hope you get paid.
1:46:30
SPEAKER_05: I'm hoping I'm hoping you get paid well.
1:46:32
SPEAKER_02: Go on, sir.
1:46:33
SPEAKER_05: Alright, so so I'm over at his crib and his mother asks.
1:46:36
SPEAKER_05: Uh ax or I'm.
1:46:40
SPEAKER_17: That's an S, Mother.
1:46:41
SPEAKER_17: That's an S! I said the S.
1:46:44
SPEAKER_17: She said.
1:46:44
SPEAKER_05: Alright, so she said.
1:46:46
SPEAKER_12: This nigga, I don't feel I don't feel comfortable with him being a firefighter who can't pronounce all these fucking words.
1:46:51
SPEAKER_05: We all got things where we can.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_05: We all got weird matrix.
1:46:57
SPEAKER_08: We don't need to get through the door.
1:47:00
SPEAKER_05: Let's get back to the fucking story.
1:47:01
SPEAKER_12: He just wants to slide down a pole for a living.
1:47:04
SPEAKER_05: So she proceeds to say to AG.
1:47:08
SPEAKER_05: Uh hey, so why don't you just why don't you why don't you clean around the house sometimes?
1:47:13
SPEAKER_05: And his response.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_15: I know what you're doing.
1:47:17
SPEAKER_05: His response had me dead.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_05: This guy said, because I feel with the serious most serious face on.
1:47:23
SPEAKER_05: Because I feel like women are better suited for that.
1:47:27
SPEAKER_17: Feminist.
1:47:29
SPEAKER_17: Oh feminist.
1:47:32
SPEAKER_07: Yo.
1:47:33
SPEAKER_07: What is wrong with that statement?
1:47:34
SPEAKER_02: Because you shouldn't apply a gender to that.
1:47:37
SPEAKER_07: I shouldn't apply a gender.
1:47:38
SPEAKER_07: You shouldn't apply a gender to that.
1:47:39
SPEAKER_07: I just want to learn what we're doing.
1:47:40
SPEAKER_07: You're saying women are better suited.
1:47:41
SPEAKER_02: You shouldn't apply a gender to that.
1:47:43
SPEAKER_02: Because exactly.
1:47:45
SPEAKER_02: Because you are just as capable.
1:47:47
SPEAKER_02: You are just as capable.
1:47:49
SPEAKER_07: Honestly, I felt like that was self-uh depreciation on my part because I didn't feel like I was up to snuff to clean the household.
1:47:56
SPEAKER_09: No.
1:48:00
SPEAKER_12: Can I?
1:48:01
SPEAKER_09: See, that's what I look that's one of those.
1:48:03
SPEAKER_12: This is the gay gay debate.
1:48:08
SPEAKER_17: You hear a lot, like, nah, I can't do it.
1:48:10
SPEAKER_17: I can't do it as good as you, babe.
1:48:11
SPEAKER_02: I can't do it the same.
1:48:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, women do, like, no.
1:48:14
SPEAKER_02: Or woman's touching do it.
1:48:16
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:48:16
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:48:17
SPEAKER_10: Oh, excuse me.
1:48:18
SPEAKER_10: This is ace.
1:48:18
SPEAKER_10: I just I just gotta say something.
1:48:20
SPEAKER_10: My fault, AG, I'm just apologizing for your man's because he straight up went into the history books archives just to go against you and your girl.
1:48:26
SPEAKER_10: That was foul.
1:48:28
SPEAKER_10: I'm just bringing that to like sucker shit.
1:48:30
SPEAKER_10: No, but I wonder because she didn't mention.
1:48:33
SPEAKER_02: No, because she did mention that she doesn't think he's a feminist.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_15: It's a lie that he's keeping up for this uh podcast.
1:48:44
SPEAKER_14: He's so feminine.
1:48:45
SPEAKER_14: He's trying to keep up this persona of him being a feminist because he's not.
1:48:49
SPEAKER_14: He feels like men are superior to women.
1:48:52
SPEAKER_17: No, no, no, no, no, no.
1:48:57
SPEAKER_17: So I think your own niggas, right?
1:49:00
SPEAKER_07: And maybe his actions I feel that men and women are absolutely different.
1:49:07
SPEAKER_07: That's all that I feel.
1:49:09
SPEAKER_15: But you feel like you're the alpha.
1:49:10
SPEAKER_15: You come.
1:49:11
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:49:13
SPEAKER_07: How are we doing?
1:49:15
SPEAKER_07: Explain the differences.
1:49:16
SPEAKER_07: Explain the differences.
1:49:17
SPEAKER_07: Every man is not an alpha.
1:49:19
SPEAKER_07: Explain the differences.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:49:21
SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of beta niggas out here.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_07: I'm an alpha by divine by design.
1:49:25
SPEAKER_07: By divine design.
1:49:27
SPEAKER_07: But I don't feel like this beta women.
1:49:30
SPEAKER_06: I'll keep it a buck.
1:49:31
SPEAKER_06: I'll keep it a buck.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_06: I'll be a beta.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_06: I'll be a beta.
1:49:33
SPEAKER_06: Because guess what?
1:49:34
SPEAKER_06: It's not about being a bitch.
1:49:35
SPEAKER_06: It's not about being a bitch.
1:49:36
SPEAKER_06: I'm the real feminist.
1:49:38
SPEAKER_06: I believe in equality.
1:49:39
SPEAKER_06: I let a bitch.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_06: I was raised by a woman that said straight up, you gotta compromise.
1:49:44
SPEAKER_06: It gotta be 50 50.
1:49:45
SPEAKER_06: I'm not gonna be an alpha male and be like, yo, you gotta do the Noah, bro.
1:49:48
SPEAKER_07: That's not what makes you alpha.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_07: That's what makes you alpha.
1:49:50
SPEAKER_07: You know what?
1:49:51
SPEAKER_14: At the end of the day, I do take charge.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_14: At the end of the day, you've had you've said yourself men and women cannot be equal.
1:49:58
SPEAKER_07: No, I don't think so.
1:49:59
SPEAKER_07: So then they can't.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_07: They can't differ from it from certain platforms.
1:50:02
SPEAKER_14: You're a feminist because a feminist believes in women equality.
1:50:06
SPEAKER_07: Women's equality in specific places.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_07: In the work of nothing.
1:50:11
SPEAKER_07: Hey, Brittany.
1:50:12
SPEAKER_07: Hey, Brittany, you want to go help me lift this refrigerator real quick?
1:50:15
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I'll do.
1:50:15
SPEAKER_14: I'll do it.
1:50:16
SPEAKER_07: You want to help me lift the refrigerator?
1:50:18
SPEAKER_07: Can you lift the refrigerator?
1:50:20
SPEAKER_02: They think of equality in every sense, every sense of the word.
1:50:26
SPEAKER_02: Politically, socially, economically, every but not physically.
1:50:30
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
1:50:31
SPEAKER_07: If you speak to the modern feminist, she's holding a cup that says men tears on it.
1:50:37
SPEAKER_07: If you speak to the modern feminist, that's not everybody.
1:50:41
SPEAKER_07: I said the modern feminist.
1:50:43
SPEAKER_09: But exactly.
1:50:43
SPEAKER_09: I don't like the term modern.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_07: Okay, if you speak to the modern feminist, there's this thing called, what is it, third wave feminist?
1:50:48
SPEAKER_07: Fourth wave feminism?
1:50:50
SPEAKER_07: Fourth wave feminism that is going to allow the woman to be the most men have been fucking up the planet.
1:50:56
SPEAKER_07: Men have been doing this.
1:50:56
SPEAKER_07: So women.
1:50:57
SPEAKER_07: Are we wrong?
1:50:58
SPEAKER_07: Because you have been in charge.
1:51:00
SPEAKER_07: Are we wrong?
1:51:01
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, but who's been in charge though?
1:51:03
SPEAKER_17: The men have been in charge, not the women.
1:51:06
SPEAKER_17: So we're fighting for equality to make it a better building.
1:51:09
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and you individuals.
1:51:11
SPEAKER_02: He's saying that there's women trying to fight for superiority.
1:51:14
SPEAKER_07: Those are the women that lead your movement.
1:51:17
SPEAKER_02: And that's Let me just ask you a quick.
1:51:23
SPEAKER_02: They're not really feminists then.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_02: That's why I'm a feminist.
1:51:25
SPEAKER_02: That's why no.
1:51:30
SPEAKER_07: Because men and women are different.
1:51:32
SPEAKER_07: But the whole thing is that we're equal.
1:51:33
SPEAKER_07: We're different.
1:51:34
SPEAKER_02: We can be we can we can be different in certain aspects.
1:51:38
SPEAKER_02: But they're saying we're saying in terms of sound off real quick.
1:51:43
SPEAKER_07: Okay, okay.
1:51:43
SPEAKER_07: Where do you think that men and women are equal?
1:51:45
SPEAKER_07: And let me see if I disagree with you.
1:51:47
SPEAKER_02: So the whole thing is it's just in society, right?
1:51:50
SPEAKER_02: In society, their roles, their roles in their lives, whatever, jobs.
1:51:55
SPEAKER_07: Have the same jobs.
1:51:56
SPEAKER_07: I agree to an extent.
1:51:56
SPEAKER_07: Okay, continue.
1:51:57
SPEAKER_07: I'm sure you agree to an extent as well.
1:52:00
SPEAKER_14: Why can't I work in construction?
1:52:01
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
1:52:01
SPEAKER_07: No, you can't.
1:52:02
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I can't work in UPS, but I'll tell you that right now.
1:52:05
SPEAKER_07: If a job is for you to raise a box that's 50 pounds over your head, which woman in this room can do that?
1:52:10
SPEAKER_15: You don't hello.
1:52:11
SPEAKER_06: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
1:52:13
SPEAKER_06: Let me ask you a typical question.
1:52:14
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
1:52:16
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
1:52:17
SPEAKER_06: Let me ask you a question.
1:52:18
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
1:52:19
SPEAKER_14: If you were a feminist, you would not be talking about it.
1:52:21
SPEAKER_14: Okay, I got a question.
1:52:22
SPEAKER_14: Hold on.
1:52:23
SPEAKER_07: Oh, but I don't make biology.
1:52:25
SPEAKER_07: No, listen to the microphone.
1:52:25
SPEAKER_07: You can be a feminist.
1:52:28
SPEAKER_07: You can be a feminist and a realist at the same time.
1:52:31
SPEAKER_07: Okay, let me ask you a question.
1:52:33
SPEAKER_02: There's a spectrum.
1:52:34
SPEAKER_02: There are women who are bigger than men, just like there are men who are bigger than women.
1:52:38
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, listen, listen.
1:52:39
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, the proportions are not the same.
1:52:44
SPEAKER_02: But you can't say that every woman is not qualified to do that.
1:52:48
SPEAKER_02: Because obviously, if she shows that she can't, she should be hired for that job.
1:52:52
SPEAKER_12: Anything you can do, I can do.
1:52:54
SPEAKER_12: But it doesn't matter if it's on average.
1:52:56
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter as long as you as long as you meet the qualifications, you should get that job.
1:53:02
SPEAKER_02: That is the only argument.
1:53:04
SPEAKER_06: Let me add, can I ask a simple question before you simple questions?
1:53:06
SPEAKER_02: We're also talking about opportunities.
1:53:07
SPEAKER_02: That the opportunities should be the same.
1:53:09
SPEAKER_07: The opportunities could be the same.
1:53:10
SPEAKER_07: If I get a man and a woman and they can both lift a box over their head that's 50 pounds for the whole day, they should both get the job.
1:53:16
SPEAKER_06: Okay, but let me ask you a question.
1:53:18
SPEAKER_06: Can I ask all the females?
1:53:19
SPEAKER_02: But you don't believe we're truly equal.
1:53:21
SPEAKER_02: You only believe we're equal in certain aspects.
1:53:25
SPEAKER_06: I got a question for all the females.
1:53:26
SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
1:53:27
SPEAKER_02: That's what I said.
1:53:28
SPEAKER_02: What do you think qualifies men and women's difference?
1:53:31
SPEAKER_06: Okay, I have a question.
1:53:32
SPEAKER_06: I have a question for all females.
1:53:33
SPEAKER_06: Like, is it all just physical strength?
1:53:35
SPEAKER_06: Okay, I have a question for all females.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_06: And this is men are stronger than women.
1:53:40
SPEAKER_06: That's the whole thing.
1:53:41
SPEAKER_06: And the average woman participated.
1:53:44
SPEAKER_06: That doesn't matter.
1:53:45
SPEAKER_06: Okay, can I ask a simple fucking question?
1:53:48
SPEAKER_06: Do you do the three well the four females now?
1:53:51
SPEAKER_06: She fucked them up.
1:53:52
SPEAKER_06: Do you guys a movie?
1:53:53
SPEAKER_06: Do you guys think a movie?
1:53:56
SPEAKER_17: She had to train, but she fucked his ass up.
1:53:58
SPEAKER_17: Let me ask him.
1:53:59
SPEAKER_17: Was that Jenna?
1:54:00
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, it was Jenna.
1:54:01
SPEAKER_17: Alright, alright.
1:54:02
SPEAKER_17: Wait.
1:54:04
SPEAKER_06: That's the first one.
1:54:04
SPEAKER_06: We can plan the plot.
1:54:06
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:54:06
SPEAKER_06: Let me ask the four females in the room a simple question.
1:54:09
SPEAKER_06: Women.
1:54:09
SPEAKER_06: The four women in the room.
1:54:10
SPEAKER_06: The four women in this room for a simple question.
1:54:12
SPEAKER_06: Because I work at UPS.
1:54:14
SPEAKER_06: Uh-huh.
1:54:14
SPEAKER_06: And this boss has come 170 to maybe 210.
1:54:18
SPEAKER_06: Do you four women think you can lift that for eight hours?
1:54:20
SPEAKER_02: Listen, we can you listen.
1:54:23
SPEAKER_02: The whole point is you have to meet the qualifications.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_02: If there is a woman that can do it, she can get it.
1:54:29
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:54:29
SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't matter.
1:54:32
SPEAKER_02: It's all about the qualifications, not the gender.
1:54:34
SPEAKER_02: She gives me the job.
1:54:35
SPEAKER_02: So exactly.
1:54:36
SPEAKER_02: She should get the job.
1:54:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:54:37
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, I don't think I can do that.
1:54:39
SPEAKER_02: But there are women who can't.
1:54:40
SPEAKER_02: Can I step?
1:54:40
SPEAKER_02: Can I step in?
1:54:41
SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't matter.
1:54:43
SPEAKER_02: Listen, it doesn't matter, majority, minority, it doesn't matter.
1:54:46
SPEAKER_02: It's about the qualification.
1:54:47
SPEAKER_12: Hey, Red has a point.
1:54:49
SPEAKER_12: I just want to because you know what?
1:54:51
SPEAKER_12: We want gender blindness.
1:54:52
SPEAKER_12: Exactly.
1:54:53
SPEAKER_17: The two count gender in your decision, just qualification.
1:54:57
SPEAKER_17: Exactly.
1:54:57
SPEAKER_07: Let Red get his point across first.
1:55:00
SPEAKER_12: It's not any more of a point than it was a switch on subjects.
1:55:06
SPEAKER_12: Only because I feel that this is so circumstantial and individualistic that there's too much to combat.
1:55:16
SPEAKER_12: There's there's too much back and forth.
1:55:18
SPEAKER_12: There's too much debate on it.
1:55:19
SPEAKER_12: Because there are there's now yeah, the average man can beat the shit out of a woman.
1:55:24
SPEAKER_12: Can you, but can you beat Leila Ali?
1:55:26
SPEAKER_07: On a street fight?
1:55:27
SPEAKER_07: Absolutely.
1:55:28
SPEAKER_07: You missed a leaf?
1:55:29
SPEAKER_07: Absolutely.
1:55:31
SPEAKER_12: In a street fight, can you beat Ronda Rousey?
1:55:33
SPEAKER_12: Absolutely.
1:55:33
SPEAKER_06: Yes, you know why?
1:55:34
SPEAKER_06: Because there's no rules, ball.
1:55:35
SPEAKER_06: If she starts hitting me to the point, I'm losing, I'm grabbing a brick, nigga.
1:55:38
SPEAKER_06: Boxing match and a fight of losing to her.
1:55:42
SPEAKER_12: Can you beat motherfucking can you beat Cheryl Miller in a three-point content?
1:55:48
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
1:55:52
SPEAKER_13: Can you beat off missing your buttons?
1:55:56
SPEAKER_07: Girls, girls, girls.
1:55:58
SPEAKER_07: I'm talking about.
1:55:59
SPEAKER_07: Ladies, I'm gonna include it.
1:56:01
SPEAKER_12: I'm gonna include I'm gonna include you guys in in one second in a great topic that I think that's gonna be more beneficial to this podcast than this topic right now.
1:56:09
SPEAKER_08: Oh shit.
1:56:10
SPEAKER_08: So that's how.
1:56:11
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
1:56:12
SPEAKER_12: Since we have four feet since we have four women in uh the room now.
1:56:19
SPEAKER_12: Can you introduce yourself, please?
1:56:21
SPEAKER_13: Hi, I'm Vanessa.
1:56:22
SPEAKER_12: Hello, Vanessa.
1:56:23
SPEAKER_12: My name is V Block, but V Block.
1:56:25
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah.
1:56:25
SPEAKER_13: You gotta use you gotta use the name V-Block.
1:56:27
SPEAKER_13: Alright, V Block.
1:56:29
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so like I said, because I feel that this situation is just too much back and forth.
1:56:35
SPEAKER_12: We got the hookah on deck.
1:56:36
SPEAKER_13: Why you being racist?
1:56:37
SPEAKER_07: Because y'all was racist first.
1:56:40
SPEAKER_13: The black man was the one that made this hookah, so talk to me.
1:56:43
SPEAKER_13: Alright, cool.
1:56:44
SPEAKER_07: Go ahead, bruh.
1:56:44
SPEAKER_07: Get your point across.
1:56:47
SPEAKER_07: Talk to me.
1:56:47
SPEAKER_07: Oh.
1:56:48
SPEAKER_07: Oh.
1:56:49
SPEAKER_13: Let's just make it.
1:56:50
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
1:56:51
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
1:56:52
SPEAKER_06: It's just a simple fact.
1:56:55
SPEAKER_06: Listen, listen.
1:56:56
SPEAKER_06: Oh, I see what you're saying.
1:56:56
SPEAKER_06: Listen, listen, listen, listen.
1:56:59
SPEAKER_06: We're just gonna agree.
1:57:00
SPEAKER_06: Dominicans are black.
1:57:01
SPEAKER_06: Wait.
1:57:02
SPEAKER_17: Can I let Red Let Red get to the question?
1:57:05
SPEAKER_07: Girls, girls, girls.
1:57:08
SPEAKER_07: No, no, I'm saying it's gender neutral.
1:57:10
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's gonna never be.
1:57:10
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so we're gonna give Red the floor.
1:57:13
SPEAKER_02: Right, Red.
1:57:13
SPEAKER_12: Listen.
1:57:14
SPEAKER_12: Listen.
1:57:16
SPEAKER_12: We have four women in the room now.
1:57:19
SPEAKER_12: Five and a half.
1:57:20
unknown: Four and a half.
1:57:21
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
1:57:22
SPEAKER_12: John Chubbs.
1:57:23
SPEAKER_12: Um wait, wait, wait.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_12: What the fuck happened?
1:57:26
SPEAKER_12: I became a half woman?
1:57:27
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:57:27
SPEAKER_06: I'll be Sir Genders.
1:57:29
SPEAKER_12: Please don't.
1:57:30
SPEAKER_12: And we have what?
1:57:31
SPEAKER_12: Uh how many guys?
1:57:32
SPEAKER_12: Six of us?
1:57:33
SPEAKER_07: How many real niggas though?
1:57:34
SPEAKER_12: Oh, okay.
1:57:35
SPEAKER_06: There's only four real niggas in this room.
1:57:38
SPEAKER_07: You called me twice?
1:57:39
SPEAKER_07: That's like that's like spades.
1:57:40
SPEAKER_07: Three and the possible.
1:57:41
SPEAKER_07: Three impossible.
1:57:42
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:57:42
SPEAKER_06: No, no.
1:57:43
SPEAKER_07: Damn.
1:57:44
SPEAKER_06: As long as I'm impossible, I'm okay with that.
1:57:46
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:57:47
SPEAKER_06: Okay, okay, okay.
1:57:47
SPEAKER_06: Yes, your point.
1:57:48
SPEAKER_12: Alright, let everybody get his point across.
1:57:50
SPEAKER_12: Okay, here's here's the here's the topic switch it up.
1:57:53
SPEAKER_12: No, no, topic switch because this gay shit, like going back and forth.
1:57:59
SPEAKER_12: Women.
1:58:02
SPEAKER_12: Just go on your topic, Red.
1:58:05
SPEAKER_12: Do you prefer the title or bond and why?
1:58:12
SPEAKER_12: Title of a relationship or a bond that you have with no title.
1:58:17
SPEAKER_02: Start over here, please.
1:58:18
SPEAKER_02: But what's what's the point of this conversation?
1:58:21
SPEAKER_12: It's it's a it's just I'm getting feedback.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I just care about the bond.
1:58:27
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I don't care about the title.
1:58:29
SPEAKER_02: Listen, we've been together for seven years.
1:58:30
SPEAKER_02: You think I'm rushing for no, I don't give a shit.
1:58:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm not rushing for writing nothing.
1:58:35
SPEAKER_02: Like it doesn't really mean much.
1:58:38
SPEAKER_12: But you have a title though.
1:58:40
unknown: Definitely.
1:58:41
SPEAKER_16: Uh yeah, girlfriend.
1:58:43
SPEAKER_12: Okay, but you wouldn't have the title at the end of the day.
1:58:45
SPEAKER_12: I'm asking you.
1:58:46
SPEAKER_12: Like what?
1:58:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.
1:58:49
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm talking about, ladies.
1:58:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:58:51
SPEAKER_02: You see what I'm saying?
1:58:52
SPEAKER_02: So listen, so let's say if we were exclusive and we were dating, but I wasn't called a girlfriend, that should be fine.
1:58:59
SPEAKER_02: If we're exclusive, that should be fine.
1:59:01
SPEAKER_12: But how do you feel, Miss Peter?
1:59:02
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
1:59:04
SPEAKER_12: I'm asking different ladies.
1:59:04
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so Kyocho, that's your final answer.
1:59:06
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
1:59:06
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
1:59:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, all my relationships have been based on the button.
1:59:13
SPEAKER_12: Excuse me, one second.
1:59:14
SPEAKER_12: Um, Casey.
1:59:14
SPEAKER_12: Um, I just want to clarify people this is not Keyocho speaking again.
1:59:17
SPEAKER_12: This is her title.
1:59:18
SPEAKER_02: This is Casey speaking.
1:59:20
SPEAKER_02: We do sound very similar, so that's gonna get confusing.
1:59:22
SPEAKER_02: Um be digital.
1:59:24
SPEAKER_02: But no, I've always been a no-label person.
1:59:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't really care about titles.
1:59:28
SPEAKER_13: So zero for titles.
1:59:32
SPEAKER_13: I care about the bond.
1:59:34
SPEAKER_14: Exactly.
1:59:35
SPEAKER_02: So three for bond.
1:59:37
SPEAKER_14: I care about the bond, but I'm not gonna sit here and lie that and say that I don't want the title because if I don't have a title, then things are gonna be confused.
1:59:47
SPEAKER_14: Cause what if things are in the you know, in the gr in the vine, you know, you feel like that you are allowed to do certain things because I'm not your girl.
1:59:55
SPEAKER_14: You're gonna be like, you're gonna look at me, but you you know, you're not gonna be like.
1:59:58
SPEAKER_14: I get what you mean.
1:59:58
SPEAKER_02: But if you said, Okay, so you're gonna that's what I was saying.
2:00:02
SPEAKER_02: If like we're exclusive, but he didn't get it.
2:00:03
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you're gonna say I would be fine.
2:00:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna get to that.
2:00:06
SPEAKER_13: All right, so let's I just think it's based on the communication.
2:00:10
SPEAKER_13: Like if everything is established, everybody, everything is put on the table.
2:00:14
SPEAKER_13: Everything's put on the table, then that's there should be no confusion.
2:00:17
SPEAKER_14: But why does he not want to commit himself to you?
2:00:20
SPEAKER_14: But he is committing himself to you.
2:00:23
SPEAKER_12: Okay, okay, so so now this is this is gonna be my next thing.
2:00:29
SPEAKER_13: I don't think anybody has the role of getting anybody a title.
2:00:33
SPEAKER_13: Oh, really?
2:00:33
SPEAKER_13: I think it runs in your actions and how you go about it.
2:00:36
SPEAKER_13: Because if you It's like how you want to be seen by society.
2:00:39
SPEAKER_14: Vanessa, putting everything on the table right now.
2:00:42
SPEAKER_14: You sat there with me.
2:00:43
SPEAKER_12: Not putting my cock on the table, people.
2:00:44
SPEAKER_14: When me and Ajamo were not a couple, we're not.
2:00:47
SPEAKER_14: AG! AG, I'm sorry.
2:00:50
SPEAKER_14: I forget calling you by the name name.
2:00:53
SPEAKER_14: AG, sir.
2:00:55
SPEAKER_14: When me and AG were just talking about it.
2:00:56
SPEAKER_14: AG and I told me that it is not right that he is not giving me the full commitment and not giving me the title.
2:01:04
SPEAKER_14: I you we had these conversations and you know that the title is something that's very important.
2:01:10
SPEAKER_13: Because it was getting to the point where you were expecting certain type of things, and it was because he was making you feel like it was a relationship.
2:01:21
SPEAKER_13: That's where that came from.
2:01:22
SPEAKER_13: The confusion.
2:01:23
SPEAKER_13: But the point is that if y'all communicated that how y'all would communicate, and y'all came to an agreement eventually, and but now you got your title.
2:01:32
SPEAKER_13: But that was my point.
2:01:34
SPEAKER_13: All along.
2:01:37
SPEAKER_13: Okay, so let me take a look at it.
2:01:38
SPEAKER_13: Let me take this a step further now.
2:01:39
SPEAKER_12: Back to the title.
2:01:40
SPEAKER_12: Okay, you guys.
2:01:42
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
2:01:42
SPEAKER_13: No, she's a little bit.
2:01:45
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, she's like, we got a 50-50.
2:01:47
SPEAKER_08: 39.
2:01:49
SPEAKER_12: We're giving them their own platform right now.
2:01:51
SPEAKER_12: We're gonna let the we're gonna let the women speak.
2:01:53
SPEAKER_14: Quattro golpes.
2:01:59
SPEAKER_12: Team Kellokay out this motherfucker.
2:02:02
SPEAKER_12: I know you don't you don't have to know.
2:02:03
SPEAKER_12: I know what it meant.
2:02:05
SPEAKER_12: Um, okay, so now, uh bonds, bonds over title.
2:02:08
SPEAKER_12: I'm sorry, uh, bonds over title.
2:02:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
2:02:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:02:12
SPEAKER_12: Um let's just say now, you are dating exclusively and you've reached say about the year and a half point.
2:02:23
SPEAKER_12: Is a title what you're looking for at this point?
2:02:26
SPEAKER_12: You have the bond.
2:02:28
SPEAKER_12: You want the title and the exclusiveness of so now that time frame into it.
2:02:35
SPEAKER_12: How do you feel about it?
2:02:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay, again, KOcho here.
2:02:38
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't think the time would make a difference.
2:02:42
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, like if we were still, if we still had that bond and we're being exclusive, like, I don't think time would affect if I'd want if I'd want a title.
2:02:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, mind you, this these are all hypothetical situations, but I'm saying if it were, you know, to be that, I don't think I really would care.
2:02:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, because again, you're in a relationship.
2:03:00
SPEAKER_02: You need those titles because of how you want people.
2:03:02
SPEAKER_02: You're not in a relationship.
2:03:04
SPEAKER_02: You're not.
2:03:04
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
2:03:05
SPEAKER_02: He said, but he said, but when you are, you just don't have the title.
2:03:07
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
2:03:09
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I switch I switched up.
2:03:10
SPEAKER_02: It can be a relationship without the title.
2:03:12
SPEAKER_02: I switched up the title.
2:03:13
SPEAKER_14: Like, it's just hypothetical.
2:03:15
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:03:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:03:16
SPEAKER_02: We're talking about monogamy.
2:03:18
SPEAKER_02: Okay, can I make it talking about I don't think we're people who want to be monogamous?
2:03:22
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so let me let me But that's what I'm saying.
2:03:25
SPEAKER_11: If we are monogamous, you guys, you guys are educated this.
2:03:31
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not bullshit because if I have a bond, if I have a bond with that person, I don't get like if I'm gonna choose a title over that person, I'm gonna choose that person.
2:03:38
SPEAKER_12: This is this is this is what I'm talking about.
2:03:40
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, a year and a half people, titles can ruin your entire relationship.
2:03:43
SPEAKER_12: A year and a half.
2:03:44
SPEAKER_12: So if you're so well.
2:03:45
SPEAKER_02: Alright, go, go, Rick.
2:03:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
2:03:47
unknown: I wonder why.
2:03:48
SPEAKER_12: A year and a half to two years in into dating someone.
2:03:53
SPEAKER_12: A year and a half to two years into dating someone.
2:03:55
SPEAKER_12: You're I'm sorry, a year and a half to two years.
2:03:58
SPEAKER_12: Listen to me.
2:03:58
SPEAKER_15: Oh, two years makes a difference.
2:04:00
SPEAKER_15: But that's not probably all.
2:04:04
SPEAKER_15: Who is haleming?
2:04:04
SPEAKER_15: Two is halemic.
2:04:06
SPEAKER_11: Okay, can I can I can I get my thoughts out?
2:04:09
SPEAKER_17: That's right.
2:04:09
SPEAKER_17: I'd be like, we're dragging this.
2:04:11
SPEAKER_17: But you gotta go ask ask your question.
2:04:14
unknown: Yeah, you got a little finish.
2:04:17
SPEAKER_12: A year and a half to two years in, you are having unprotected sex with this person multiple times a week.
2:04:23
SPEAKER_12: You guys are you guys are you guys are going out on dates, you guys are doing all that extra shit that couples do.
2:04:31
SPEAKER_12: The simple fact that you do not have a title, does that bother you?
2:04:34
SPEAKER_12: You that far into it.
2:04:36
SPEAKER_13: Yes.
2:04:37
SPEAKER_13: Yes.
2:04:38
SPEAKER_12: Why?
2:04:39
SPEAKER_13: Yes.
2:04:40
SPEAKER_13: Unfortunately, yes.
2:04:43
SPEAKER_14: Because when my girls are asking me, like, is this your nigga?
2:04:46
SPEAKER_14: I can't say that this is my nigga, because he's not.
2:04:49
SPEAKER_14: That's not my man.
2:04:50
SPEAKER_14: I can't sit there and say that this is my boyfriend.
2:04:53
SPEAKER_13: So then I look with the dumb face on some, so why you can't do this?
2:04:56
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
2:04:57
SPEAKER_14: What's wrong with you that he can't do that?
2:04:58
SPEAKER_13: What if I'm being approached?
2:05:00
SPEAKER_13: What if I'm being approached?
2:05:02
SPEAKER_13: What am I to say?
2:05:02
SPEAKER_13: Oh, there's somebody there.
2:05:04
SPEAKER_13: I'm single, but there's somebody there.
2:05:06
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm sitting there, but if someone saw me talking to you, they'd be pissed off.
2:05:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm saying, what's the end goal of this hypothetical situation?
2:05:14
SPEAKER_02: Like, what's your point?
2:05:15
SPEAKER_02: Are you going through something in your life?
2:05:17
SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely not.
2:05:19
SPEAKER_17: Because I'm like, we're talking about feminism.
2:05:21
SPEAKER_17: Because we're talking about feminism.
2:05:23
SPEAKER_17: I'm asking you the question.
2:05:29
SPEAKER_12: No, no, no.
2:05:30
SPEAKER_12: You see, y'all, y'all are just y'all are adding to my data right now.
2:05:35
SPEAKER_17: No, but I'm thinking, yeah, I want to get to your point.
2:05:37
SPEAKER_12: Like, let's go.
2:05:38
SPEAKER_12: Right.
2:05:39
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so no, no.
2:05:40
SPEAKER_12: This is I'm asking the females.
2:05:42
SPEAKER_12: So now I'm gonna ask the men.
2:05:44
SPEAKER_16: Okay.
2:05:44
SPEAKER_16: All right.
2:05:44
SPEAKER_12: And I'm this is okay.
2:05:46
SPEAKER_12: Meant for debate.
2:05:47
SPEAKER_12: This is about the different understanding.
2:05:49
SPEAKER_12: Understanding.
2:05:50
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:05:50
SPEAKER_12: You want to understand that that's the that that's the dialogue.
2:05:55
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
2:05:56
SPEAKER_02: So now ask this to the men to the men.
2:05:58
SPEAKER_07: I heard the question.
2:05:59
SPEAKER_07: Okay, let's here we go.
2:06:00
SPEAKER_07: Let's go.
2:06:00
SPEAKER_07: Ask these questions.
2:06:01
SPEAKER_07: First things first, can somebody close the door?
2:06:04
SPEAKER_12: And second thing second, Sir Chubbs passed the mic.
2:06:07
SPEAKER_12: He said, Men.
2:06:08
SPEAKER_10: What the fuck you think?
2:06:09
SPEAKER_10: I got a vagina?
2:06:10
SPEAKER_10: And there's no way.
2:06:12
SPEAKER_10: So ask this one to the microphone.
2:06:15
SPEAKER_10: The microphone is in your fucking hand.
2:06:17
SPEAKER_10: Are the women listening?
2:06:20
SPEAKER_07: So hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
2:06:22
SPEAKER_07: We're just waiting for the question.
2:06:25
SPEAKER_07: While the mics get uh undetangled.
2:06:31
SPEAKER_10: Let me ask you this.
2:06:32
SPEAKER_10: We understand that there's no women grabbing the mics away from the men, right?
2:06:35
SPEAKER_10: He's preparing himself.
2:06:36
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
2:06:37
SPEAKER_10: The same way we let your females talk, women will talk.
2:06:40
SPEAKER_10: I had mine.
2:06:41
SPEAKER_10: Shh, handy yours.
2:06:42
SPEAKER_06: Oh, my mine is handy.
2:06:44
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no, no.
2:06:45
SPEAKER_10: I wasn't telling you to handle.
2:06:46
SPEAKER_10: Oh.
2:06:46
SPEAKER_10: No, you took that.
2:06:48
SPEAKER_10: No, no, no, no, no.
2:06:49
SPEAKER_10: Hold on, hold on.
2:06:50
SPEAKER_10: So go ahead.
2:06:50
SPEAKER_10: Ask these questions.
2:06:51
SPEAKER_12: Let the questions.
2:06:53
SPEAKER_12: There's no titles, but I'm not colorblind.
2:06:56
SPEAKER_06: Ask these questions.
2:06:58
SPEAKER_06: Ask these questions.
2:07:00
SPEAKER_06: Because me, I'm ready to talk.
2:07:03
SPEAKER_12: Yes, like like a true woman.
2:07:05
SPEAKER_12: Red.
2:07:06
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so right, what's the question?
2:07:08
SPEAKER_06: Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:07:10
SPEAKER_10: Men are speaking.
2:07:12
SPEAKER_10: Alright, who are you?
2:07:12
SPEAKER_10: Who are you directing the question to?
2:07:14
SPEAKER_06: All the men.
2:07:15
SPEAKER_10: All the men in the room.
2:07:16
SPEAKER_10: I'll speak first.
2:07:17
SPEAKER_07: Zap! What's the original question?
2:07:19
SPEAKER_12: The original question is dating.
2:07:25
SPEAKER_12: Dating a female, do you care about the bond or the title?
2:07:29
SPEAKER_07: I mean, personally, I like the title.
2:07:33
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:07:34
SPEAKER_07: Because what?
2:07:36
SPEAKER_07: Because at the same time, like let's say, let's say I have this pineapple juice, right?
2:07:42
SPEAKER_07: And it's all in a room with everybody.
2:07:44
SPEAKER_07: If it doesn't have a certain type of ownership, then anybody can just take that pineapple juice.
2:07:50
SPEAKER_07: We own each other.
2:07:51
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
2:07:52
SPEAKER_07: I'm hers and she's mine.
2:07:53
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
2:07:55
SPEAKER_07: Okay, that's what it's like.
2:07:56
SPEAKER_07: Mind you, he's single, ladies and gentlemen.
2:07:57
SPEAKER_06: So now hey, hey, hey.
2:08:02
SPEAKER_06: Hey, hey, hey.
2:08:02
SPEAKER_06: Woman.
2:08:04
SPEAKER_06: Woman in the room.
2:08:05
SPEAKER_06: Woman in the room.
2:08:08
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
2:08:12
SPEAKER_06: What the fuck?
2:08:13
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
2:08:16
SPEAKER_07: There was a breach of contract.
2:08:19
SPEAKER_02: KMOCO, we're not doing this.
2:08:20
SPEAKER_02: We're not doing this.
2:08:22
SPEAKER_02: I was like, but that wasn't emotional, right?
2:08:24
SPEAKER_02: Sarcastically, and he's like.
2:08:26
SPEAKER_06: Oh my god.
2:08:28
SPEAKER_06: Hey, Mike Snatches.
2:08:29
SPEAKER_06: We're not doing it for us off the mic.
2:08:31
SPEAKER_06: We have an agreement.
2:08:33
SPEAKER_06: Agreement is not being breached.
2:08:34
SPEAKER_06: One strike.
2:08:35
SPEAKER_06: So look, it's my turn.
2:08:36
SPEAKER_06: I'm going to take points away as the ref right now.
2:08:39
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
2:08:39
SPEAKER_06: So can I speak?
2:08:40
SPEAKER_06: Go ahead.
2:08:41
SPEAKER_06: So I'ma keep it like this.
2:08:44
SPEAKER_12: Do you prefer the title or the bond?
2:08:48
SPEAKER_06: I'm going to keep it like this.
2:08:50
SPEAKER_06: Me?
2:08:51
SPEAKER_06: So putting them on blast.
2:08:52
SPEAKER_06: Me?
2:08:52
SPEAKER_06: I don't give a fuck.
2:08:53
SPEAKER_06: There's a woman in my lap.
2:08:54
SPEAKER_06: Damn, this ass fact.
2:08:56
SPEAKER_06: But like I said, like I said, I prefer the bond for the simple fact, like K and K said, you put a title, and there's a lot of shit that females and males think that that title comes with.
2:09:08
SPEAKER_06: And it starts fucking a relationship up.
2:09:11
SPEAKER_06: If you have a bond before that title comes, then that's the stepping stone.
2:09:16
SPEAKER_06: You build that bond, you build that foundation.
2:09:19
SPEAKER_06: If me and the female knows exactly what we're talking about, what it is, then there's nothing to get involved.
2:09:25
SPEAKER_06: If we both know, yo, we're single, but at the end of the day, we have a partner and there's no mingling around, then we both know what the fuck it is.
2:09:34
SPEAKER_06: Can I ask a question, Red?
2:09:35
SPEAKER_06: Moderator Red, go ahead.
2:09:37
SPEAKER_07: Go ahead.
2:09:39
SPEAKER_07: Um, so you're it's possible.
2:09:43
SPEAKER_07: And I want to, this question is very bad.
2:09:45
SPEAKER_07: You're possible to be single and committed to somebody?
2:09:49
SPEAKER_07: Okay, yes.
2:09:51
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
2:09:51
SPEAKER_06: Because it's like this.
2:09:52
SPEAKER_06: It's like this.
2:09:53
SPEAKER_06: It's like this.
2:09:54
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay.
2:09:55
SPEAKER_06: A G.
2:09:56
SPEAKER_06: A.
2:09:57
SPEAKER_06: No, no, this is not a hyper G at all.
2:09:59
SPEAKER_06: A G.
2:09:59
SPEAKER_06: Me and you are speaking as grown men.
2:10:00
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna tell you like this.
2:10:01
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
2:10:02
SPEAKER_06: It possibly is.
2:10:03
SPEAKER_06: Because it's like this.
2:10:04
SPEAKER_06: If we're both single and we're both giving each other.
2:10:08
SPEAKER_06: Do you know what the word single means?
2:10:09
SPEAKER_06: Listen, listen, listen, listen.
2:10:10
SPEAKER_06: Listen to what I'm saying.
2:10:11
SPEAKER_06: If we're both single and we both know what it is, that means at this very moment, we're both fucking with each other to see where it goes.
2:10:18
SPEAKER_06: Now, if somebody else steps in and our attention spans, then that's where the communication comes in to be like, yo, listen.
2:10:26
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna go fuck with that.
2:10:27
SPEAKER_06: I know we was talking, but listen, this person catching my eye, and that's where you keep put a buck with the communication.
2:10:31
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so that makes sense.
2:10:32
SPEAKER_06: Now if you put if you put a title on it and say, yo, that's my girl, this and somebody comes along and you tell that, now that person is obligated to chill away.
2:10:41
SPEAKER_10: Chubbs, let me ask you this question, that freshly being said from you.
2:10:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
2:10:44
SPEAKER_10: So do you agree that um you can't say, listen, we we're we're gonna try, we're gonna try this dating thing and not seeing anybody else.
2:10:53
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, but still, you don't have a title.
2:10:55
SPEAKER_10: You're not boyfriend and girlfriend, but you're on a trial.
2:10:58
SPEAKER_10: Just like you said.
2:10:59
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that I agree with that.
2:11:01
SPEAKER_06: But I'm in a trial not a single title and doing what?
2:11:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but the single title doesn't apply to that.
2:11:06
SPEAKER_06: What do you mean the single title title?
2:11:08
SPEAKER_06: Because it it do, it do, you would be single.
2:11:10
SPEAKER_06: Because if I go out, if I go outside, right?
2:11:15
SPEAKER_06: If I go out, if I let's say I go out to a party.
2:11:19
SPEAKER_06: Yes, sir.
2:11:20
SPEAKER_06: Hey, so you're listening.
2:11:21
SPEAKER_06: Let's say I go out to a party, I dance with a female, right?
2:11:24
SPEAKER_06: Me and my partner had a discussion.
2:11:26
SPEAKER_06: I'm allowed to dance.
2:11:27
SPEAKER_12: My partner and I.
2:11:28
SPEAKER_06: My partner and I.
2:11:29
SPEAKER_06: And that dance leads to X, Y, and Z or that person.
2:11:33
SPEAKER_06: No, let's say that person turns around, they actually see my face.
2:11:36
SPEAKER_06: And fucks you.
2:11:37
SPEAKER_06: And do some shit like that.
2:11:38
SPEAKER_06: And fucks you.
2:11:39
SPEAKER_06: Now I'm bringing it to that level.
2:11:41
SPEAKER_06: And fucks you.
2:11:41
SPEAKER_06: Well, there's no problem because you're single.
2:11:43
SPEAKER_06: No, now to that point, no, there may be an issue.
2:11:47
SPEAKER_06: Listen, there may be an issue.
2:11:49
SPEAKER_06: A G, there may be an issue.
2:11:51
SPEAKER_06: Why would there be an issue?
2:11:52
SPEAKER_06: But now, hold on, stop.
2:11:53
SPEAKER_06: Now, because you agreed to sit there and talk to that person exclusively.
2:11:57
SPEAKER_06: Okay, this is now here's the issue.
2:11:59
SPEAKER_06: Here's the issue.
2:12:00
SPEAKER_06: The issue will come about if the issue will come about if you as a man that fuck that female do not come out as a man as well.
2:12:08
SPEAKER_12: Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
2:12:11
SPEAKER_12: Y'all are going like OD right now.
2:12:13
SPEAKER_12: Answer the fucking question.
2:12:14
SPEAKER_12: But I believe in the bond.
2:12:15
SPEAKER_12: I believe in the bond.
2:12:16
SPEAKER_12: You believe in the bond.
2:12:17
SPEAKER_12: Next.
2:12:17
SPEAKER_12: Bond sets the foundation.
2:12:19
SPEAKER_12: Rell, you want to get in on this?
2:12:20
SPEAKER_06: No, he's not a man.
2:12:21
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
2:12:21
SPEAKER_10: Oh, next.
2:12:22
SPEAKER_10: He got common.
2:12:23
SPEAKER_10: Definitely believe in the bond.
2:12:24
SPEAKER_10: The bond is everything.
2:12:25
SPEAKER_10: The bond is the bond, I still can't even uh put into words myself, so that's something in itself.
2:12:31
SPEAKER_10: So bond.
2:12:32
SPEAKER_10: As a Christian brother, I believe in the bond as well.
2:12:38
SPEAKER_10: My man is drinking the Christian brothers apple rum right now.
2:12:43
SPEAKER_10: Talk about it as a Christian brother.
2:12:46
SPEAKER_10: I believe in the brother.
2:12:49
SPEAKER_07: I believe in the bond.
2:12:51
SPEAKER_07: But when a title is applied, because single is also a title, ladies and gentlemen.
2:12:59
SPEAKER_07: True.
2:13:00
SPEAKER_07: That is also a title.
2:13:02
SPEAKER_10: Obviously, that's why it says what's your title.
2:13:04
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
2:13:05
SPEAKER_07: I just want that to be on the table.
2:13:06
SPEAKER_07: That single is also a title.
2:13:08
SPEAKER_07: No, this is very.
2:13:08
SPEAKER_07: So what?
2:13:09
SPEAKER_10: What's that AG is that bring to light?
2:13:11
SPEAKER_06: So AG, if you're single, if you're single.
2:13:14
SPEAKER_06: I can't cheat if I'm single.
2:13:15
SPEAKER_06: Listen, if you're exclusive, I don't care what understanding.
2:13:17
SPEAKER_06: If you're single and you're talking to somebody exclusive and you fuck a bond though.
2:13:22
SPEAKER_06: And you fuck somebody.
2:13:23
SPEAKER_06: I didn't cheat.
2:13:24
SPEAKER_06: I'm single.
2:13:25
SPEAKER_06: I agree with you.
2:13:26
SPEAKER_06: So okay, that's all that's all I want to know.
2:13:27
SPEAKER_06: That's why you just gotta have a when you when when you're when you're single and you pass up.
2:13:31
SPEAKER_07: I have a bond.
2:13:33
SPEAKER_07: Even if there's a condom, right?
2:13:34
SPEAKER_07: If I cheating if there's a condom.
2:13:36
SPEAKER_07: If you had sex with a condom, you didn't have sex.
2:13:38
SPEAKER_07: But that's a whole different argument.
2:13:39
SPEAKER_06: Facts.
2:13:41
SPEAKER_07: With a condom?
2:13:42
SPEAKER_07: You kissed her.
2:13:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, what the fuck?
2:13:44
SPEAKER_06: You ain't really have sex.
2:13:45
SPEAKER_06: What?
2:13:45
SPEAKER_07: You don't know how pussy feels like that.
2:13:47
SPEAKER_11: Condom sex is like turkey bacon.
2:13:50
SPEAKER_07: It ain't bacon.
2:13:50
SPEAKER_07: It ain't the real thing.
2:13:51
SPEAKER_07: It's close.
2:13:52
SPEAKER_07: But it ain't the real thing.
2:13:54
SPEAKER_07: You want to do the gay shit?
2:13:56
SPEAKER_06: Why is it that TC won't do the gay shit?
2:13:58
SPEAKER_02: I just still want to know what's Red's point in this.
2:14:01
SPEAKER_12: I said it was for golf.
2:14:04
SPEAKER_12: It was for data.
2:14:05
SPEAKER_12: Collection purpose.
2:14:06
SPEAKER_12: Data collection purpose.
2:14:07
SPEAKER_06: Everybody talks about Bond except for Zap.
2:14:10
SPEAKER_12: I'm actually uh bringing this back to a conversation that actually comes up a lot.
2:14:15
SPEAKER_12: Um, whether it be Instagram, black, Twitter, or whatever.
2:14:18
SPEAKER_12: And this is a real conversation that people have.
2:14:21
SPEAKER_12: Do you prefer the bond or the title?
2:14:23
SPEAKER_12: And it's usually more of a relationship.
2:14:27
SPEAKER_12: Um, like more people choose relationship over the bond.
2:14:31
SPEAKER_12: So I just was getting gathering statistics.
2:14:35
SPEAKER_06: I feel like that's because of the way men are engineered, females feel scared to be in a bond without a title.
2:14:44
SPEAKER_06: I don't know shit about the engineering.
2:14:45
SPEAKER_06: That's what I feel.
2:14:47
SPEAKER_06: I know a lot about this engineering.
2:14:48
SPEAKER_06: We engineer to have jaws.
2:14:51
SPEAKER_05: Not you.
2:14:54
SPEAKER_05: No, but you see what the title comes with is exclusive.
2:14:58
SPEAKER_10: Shouts to Ralph for getting on the money.
2:15:00
SPEAKER_10: You know?
2:15:00
SPEAKER_10: Oh, I wouldn't touch on that.
2:15:01
SPEAKER_10: Uh I wouldn't touch on that, Ralph.
2:15:03
SPEAKER_10: You brought that up.
2:15:04
SPEAKER_10: So um the title or the bond?
2:15:08
SPEAKER_10: No, no.
2:15:08
SPEAKER_10: Well, sorry, the title.
2:15:09
SPEAKER_01: It comes with the exclusivity.
2:15:11
SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't.
2:15:11
SPEAKER_01: Of the relationship.
2:15:12
SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't.
2:15:12
SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't.
2:15:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, it establishes it.
2:15:14
SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't.
2:15:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean, because because like you, thank you.
2:15:17
SPEAKER_01: It's a facade.
2:15:18
SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of titles, guys.
2:15:20
SPEAKER_07: Give her the mic so she can sound off for one second.
2:15:22
SPEAKER_12: Title, Spotify.
2:15:24
SPEAKER_02: So I'm saying it depends on the title.
2:15:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's not only just two titles, like one person together or single.
2:15:30
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of variations and a lot of different types of relationships.
2:15:33
SPEAKER_02: This is what I'm saying.
2:15:34
SPEAKER_02: If we're talking about monogamy, then we're talking about it.
2:15:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, like I said, did you have exclusivity?
2:15:38
SPEAKER_12: Did you hear what I was saying?
2:15:39
SPEAKER_12: I said, you're with this person, you're doing everything with this person, you're having unprotected sex with this person multiple times a week, you're dating, you're courting, you're going out, you're doing things as you know, as the normal uh boyfriend and girlfriend would do.
2:15:52
SPEAKER_12: But for the simple fact that you don't have that title a year and a half, two years into it, does that fuck with you?
2:15:58
SPEAKER_12: Does that bother you?
2:15:59
SPEAKER_02: It depends.
2:16:00
SPEAKER_12: Does that make you feel that that person doesn't want to commit to you?
2:16:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, for me, no.
2:16:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh for me, I don't care about that stuff.
2:16:07
SPEAKER_02: Like I care more about experiences, like life.
2:16:10
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of shit that I, you know, think about or worry about that doesn't have to do with fucking relationships and things like that.
2:16:16
SPEAKER_02: Things that are more important.
2:16:17
SPEAKER_02: How old are you?
2:16:18
SPEAKER_02: To me.
2:16:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm 26 years old.
2:16:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay, we just depends on the end goal.
2:16:21
SPEAKER_02: If your end goal is marriage, then that shit'll block.
2:16:24
SPEAKER_02: Can I propose a question to the model?
2:16:26
SPEAKER_02: To me, that's not what I care about.
2:16:27
SPEAKER_02: So to me, it wouldn't bother me.
2:16:29
SPEAKER_06: I have a question to the woman.
2:16:30
SPEAKER_02: She values the experience more.
2:16:32
SPEAKER_06: I really have a question to the woman.
2:16:34
SPEAKER_06: Because women?
2:16:35
SPEAKER_06: To the woman.
2:16:36
SPEAKER_06: Women's.
2:16:36
SPEAKER_06: That's what I said.
2:16:38
SPEAKER_06: Women.
2:16:38
SPEAKER_06: Women's.
2:16:39
SPEAKER_16: Okay, just go.
2:16:42
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:16:43
SPEAKER_06: Y'all need speech therapy.
2:16:46
SPEAKER_06: The only thing that got to me was when the four women in this room heard two years.
2:16:52
SPEAKER_16: Uh-huh.
2:16:53
SPEAKER_06: Everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
2:16:55
SPEAKER_06: My question is if you're not going to be able to do if you know what you're in, the communication is great.
2:17:02
SPEAKER_06: Why did the time bother you?
2:17:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
2:17:05
SPEAKER_02: That's what I did bother you.
2:17:07
SPEAKER_02: But it doesn't.
2:17:08
SPEAKER_02: For Casey and KO Cho, it doesn't bother us.
2:17:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:17:12
SPEAKER_02: Which is what I'm saying.
2:17:13
SPEAKER_02: It depends on your end goal.
2:17:14
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so okay, you said she got a phone call.
2:17:20
SPEAKER_06: You said on the end block.
2:17:21
SPEAKER_12: Setting up their dick appointments.
2:17:23
SPEAKER_06: My parents started off with no title, whatever, and they didn't even get into a relationship.
2:17:28
SPEAKER_06: They got straight married and then they had me.
2:17:30
SPEAKER_08: Straight married.
2:17:31
SPEAKER_06: So that's what so I said straight up, why does a time bother?
2:17:36
SPEAKER_06: Because me, I'm the type of person, if I really fuck with you and I feel like, yo, we ain't never say boyfriend, girlfriend, but I'm ready to propose.
2:17:43
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna propose.
2:17:44
SPEAKER_06: There don't have to be a boyfriend.
2:17:45
SPEAKER_14: But if we just have a bond and we're it's not a relationship, like AG said, you can go out and fuck somebody because you're not, you not, you singles.
2:17:54
SPEAKER_14: But guess what?
2:17:55
SPEAKER_06: I don't have to be mad, but if that bond builds up to we're bonding better than the person that you fuck just to fuck.
2:18:01
SPEAKER_14: So you telling me that's not gonna ruin our experience, knowing that I want to go fuck somebody.
2:18:05
SPEAKER_14: There's open relationships.
2:18:06
SPEAKER_14: So there's open relationships.
2:18:10
SPEAKER_06: See, that's that see that's why I said, that's why I said you like when you say a bond, and then now you say you want to feel some way if I go fuck somebody or you go fuck somebody, that's where you want the title.
2:18:21
SPEAKER_06: Because if we just have a bond and we know we're getting along perfectly, we don't argue, there's no problem.
2:18:27
SPEAKER_06: Okay, but like like like V-Block said, what if there's rules?
2:18:30
SPEAKER_06: There could be rules, no, there could be rules, but now if you tell me I'm not allowed to, let's say, step out or I and not allowed to touch somebody, then at that point I'm not single.
2:18:40
SPEAKER_06: You get what I'm saying?
2:18:41
SPEAKER_06: Now I'm in a relationship.
2:18:43
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so now that brings that brings me to my next one.
2:18:45
SPEAKER_16: I just said this question was very confusing.
2:18:47
SPEAKER_02: In a sense.
2:18:48
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not confusing because I said I said I can have the bond, and let's say we say we're exclusive, but he just can't call me his girlfriend.
2:18:55
SPEAKER_02: I was like, just because that's the point of the question.
2:18:57
SPEAKER_02: But let's say you are excited, but you're technically not boyfriend, girlfriend.
2:19:03
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so that's possible.
2:19:04
SPEAKER_12: So y'all, so y'all that's what I was saying.
2:19:06
SPEAKER_02: So y'all agree that I'd be okay.
2:19:07
SPEAKER_12: Majority bonds over titles.
2:19:08
SPEAKER_12: Yes.
2:19:09
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, okay.
2:19:10
SPEAKER_12: So when you so now so now this actually transitions segues into the next thing.
2:19:13
SPEAKER_12: The feminism question?
2:19:14
SPEAKER_12: No, no, no.
2:19:15
SPEAKER_12: Because now you because now you ask, you know, with your point or whatever, and you're talking about, oh, um, if you step out on a person, you know, is there a communication thing?
2:19:24
SPEAKER_06: Did you guys think if they're the communication thing, there should be no problem.
2:19:27
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:19:28
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so the communication Once you break that agreement.
2:19:31
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
2:19:31
SPEAKER_06: The agreement is we're single, we fuck with each other, we're gonna try to be exclusive, but there's agreement like you do such and such.
2:19:38
SPEAKER_12: In an agreement, in a bond or a relationship.
2:19:42
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
2:19:42
SPEAKER_12: What do you feel is more important?
2:19:47
SPEAKER_12: Love or respect?
2:19:49
SPEAKER_06: Respect.
2:19:50
SPEAKER_02: Aye aye.
2:19:51
SPEAKER_06: No, it's not.
2:19:52
SPEAKER_06: No, it's not.
2:19:53
SPEAKER_06: No, it's not.
2:19:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you can yeah, because men could love some women but be disrespectful.
2:19:57
SPEAKER_12: This is for everyone, but you're gonna address the women first.
2:19:59
SPEAKER_12: Oh, we're going to women first.
2:20:01
SPEAKER_12: Women first?
2:20:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I say.
2:20:03
SPEAKER_13: I would say respect because at the end of the day, if you But you said if you're in a relationship or a bond.
2:20:10
SPEAKER_13: Well, if you're in a bond, then you don't even know if there's love there yet because you're creating a lot of people.
2:20:15
SPEAKER_12: I say year and a half to two years.
2:20:17
SPEAKER_12: You don't know if a year and a half to two years if you love someone.
2:20:19
SPEAKER_02: I would say respect.
2:20:20
SPEAKER_02: I think they go they go hand in hand.
2:20:22
SPEAKER_02: I think you can't have one without the other.
2:20:25
SPEAKER_02: Because you can say love, but it's not in the right.
2:20:27
SPEAKER_02: So can I throw it?
2:20:28
SPEAKER_12: Can I throw a monkey wrench and be objective?
2:20:30
SPEAKER_12: Yes, you can, and I'm gonna show you exactly how.
2:20:33
SPEAKER_02: No, that's not true love.
2:20:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna show you.
2:20:35
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I wouldn't know that that's not true love.
2:20:37
SPEAKER_02: That's not true love.
2:20:38
SPEAKER_12: No, no, no, no, no, no.
2:20:40
SPEAKER_12: Exactly.
2:20:40
SPEAKER_12: That means they don't really love you.
2:20:41
SPEAKER_12: Because you can love one that they're you can love someone with your words, but not your actions.
2:20:46
SPEAKER_02: There's not harm.
2:20:47
SPEAKER_12: You can love someone with your words and that's your actions.
2:20:49
SPEAKER_12: Oh shit.
2:20:50
unknown: Love don't harm.
2:20:52
SPEAKER_02: I love Carrie, but like I would never do anything to harm her.
2:20:56
SPEAKER_02: Let me tell you that.
2:20:57
SPEAKER_02: You know, so that has to do with respect.
2:20:59
SPEAKER_12: Lies, lies, lies.
2:21:02
SPEAKER_12: And I'm gonna tell you how you I'm gonna tell you how you're lying now.
2:21:05
SPEAKER_12: I'm gonna tell you how you're lying now.
2:21:06
SPEAKER_12: You threw down that draw four when she said Uno, and you never said that was it.
2:21:10
SPEAKER_12: So that hurt her.
2:21:13
SPEAKER_06: You love your mom, right?
2:21:14
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
2:21:16
SPEAKER_06: You love your mom, right?
2:21:17
SPEAKER_15: Yes.
2:21:17
SPEAKER_06: You're trying to tell me there's never been six years of your life.
2:21:21
SPEAKER_06: You did something and your mom looked at you like.
2:21:23
SPEAKER_12: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
2:21:25
SPEAKER_12: Don't answer that because that's not where I'm going with it.
2:21:27
SPEAKER_12: That's not where I'm going with it.
2:21:28
SPEAKER_12: Here we go.
2:21:29
SPEAKER_12: In a situation, you can love someone.
2:21:32
SPEAKER_12: Two people are in a relationship, they love each other.
2:21:35
SPEAKER_12: A person can do something that's disrespectful.
2:21:38
SPEAKER_12: So now when you cut no when you come to that crossroads, that choice that you make, you say to yourself, you can love someone and not respect them to a degree.
2:21:53
SPEAKER_12: But if you respect a person to the utmost, you will not do nothing that to to to disrespect them.
2:22:00
SPEAKER_12: And it will not be a good thing.
2:22:01
SPEAKER_12: So that's what that's that that's a bit.
2:22:02
SPEAKER_02: So listen, listen.
2:22:03
SPEAKER_02: So what I think it depends on like the track record.
2:22:06
SPEAKER_02: Like we're human and we do make mistakes.
2:22:08
SPEAKER_02: And there's a lot of different variables that can cause someone to make a certain mistake.
2:22:12
SPEAKER_02: But if you're constantly disrespecting someone, that isn't love.
2:22:17
SPEAKER_02: If you do something maybe once that, you know, that you realize that you were wrong or yeah, like out of character, then I don't think that's the same thing as a record of colour.
2:22:29
SPEAKER_02: But was it respecting someone?
2:22:30
SPEAKER_02: But that's not real love.
2:22:31
SPEAKER_12: But was that not an act of disrespect though?
2:22:34
SPEAKER_02: Say that again.
2:22:35
SPEAKER_12: If he did something, if he cheated or something like that, or she cheated, was that not an act of disrespect?
2:22:39
SPEAKER_02: That is, but it again, that depends on what type of relationship you have.
2:22:43
SPEAKER_02: Like if it happens once, if it happened, it it depends.
2:22:47
SPEAKER_12: Is it okay so for me?
2:22:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so all right so for me, it wouldn't be real love if you're constantly doing it.
2:22:54
SPEAKER_02: If you did once and you're remorseful and you're sorry for it, and you don't do it again, then I think that is love.
2:23:01
SPEAKER_02: But if you're constantly doing it and constantly disrespecting, then that's not real love.
2:23:06
SPEAKER_02: She's saying we're humans and we're not perfect.
2:23:08
SPEAKER_02: So you're gonna you're gonna do something at some point to either maybe disrespect or hurt in a way.
2:23:15
SPEAKER_02: Like nobody has perfect relationships.
2:23:16
SPEAKER_02: We fight.
2:23:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I've done things that are disrespectful to people um I love, but there was extenuating circumstances, and it's not something that it's constantly done.
2:23:25
SPEAKER_12: I'm not I'm not speaking about anyone else other than someone that you're romantically involved with.
2:23:30
SPEAKER_02: So for me, I again I stick with the same thing.
2:23:33
SPEAKER_02: If it's a constant record of disrespect, that's not real love.
2:23:37
SPEAKER_02: So I think they go hand in hand, but that's just my opinion.
2:23:41
SPEAKER_02: If it's once, it's just an anomaly.
2:23:46
SPEAKER_14: I'm gonna pick love because I feel like if I love you, like you said, if I love you, I'm gonna respect you.
2:23:51
SPEAKER_14: So I just gotta like they go together, right?
2:23:53
SPEAKER_14: Are you saying is it one or the other?
2:23:56
SPEAKER_14: If I had to choose, I would choose love.
2:23:58
SPEAKER_12: You would choose being loved over being respected.
2:24:02
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
2:24:04
SPEAKER_13: I would like to I prefer respect to the back.
2:24:08
SPEAKER_13: Respect, yeah.
2:24:09
SPEAKER_13: Being black.
2:24:11
SPEAKER_13: I I prefer respect to the max.
2:24:14
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:24:14
SPEAKER_13: So anything could happen after that.
2:24:16
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so uh we're gonna pass this along to the uh Man and the other.
2:24:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't think I answered, but I disagree with Casey.
2:24:22
SPEAKER_16: Okay, they're not you, Casey.
2:24:24
SPEAKER_07: Okay, um I think there's different types of men in this world.
2:24:30
SPEAKER_07: Hey men.
2:24:30
SPEAKER_07: And to make it easy for everybody, there's two types of men, alpha and beta males.
2:24:34
SPEAKER_07: I think that's people in general.
2:24:35
SPEAKER_07: I think a beta male would say he would rather the love, and because he can't find it as you know often as an alpha male.
2:24:43
SPEAKER_07: No, as an alpha male, because I'm a beta.
2:24:47
SPEAKER_07: It's his opinion, let him finish.
2:24:49
SPEAKER_07: It's just my opinion.
2:24:49
SPEAKER_07: I could be wrong as fuck, but it's my opinion.
2:24:51
SPEAKER_07: As an alpha male myself, which is not an opinion, it's a fact, but we can debate that later.
2:24:55
SPEAKER_07: Um, I feel like I'm an original, so automatically, you know, it comes with it.
2:25:02
SPEAKER_07: I feel like respect is a necessity in life in all engagements that you choose to be in.
2:25:09
SPEAKER_07: If I work at a place and they don't respect me, why would I work at this place?
2:25:15
SPEAKER_07: It's the same thing.
2:25:16
SPEAKER_07: In a relationship, I'm going to choose respect over love because love is a feeling that fleets.
2:25:22
SPEAKER_07: I don't love you this week.
2:25:23
SPEAKER_07: Fleet There you go.
2:25:24
SPEAKER_07: I don't I'm what you say.
2:25:27
SPEAKER_07: I don't love you this week because you didn't buy me this or you didn't tell my mom happy birthday.
2:25:32
SPEAKER_07: That's not love.
2:25:32
SPEAKER_07: That's liking though.
2:25:33
SPEAKER_07: But I can't get my opinion across.
2:25:36
SPEAKER_07: Damn.
2:25:36
SPEAKER_07: But um respect is a concrete thing.
2:25:39
SPEAKER_07: Like this is.
2:25:42
SPEAKER_07: There's just certain things that I know I am not going to do because I respect this person.
2:25:46
SPEAKER_07: Right.
2:25:47
SPEAKER_07: And I would choose that over anything.
2:25:49
SPEAKER_07: Right.
2:25:50
SPEAKER_07: Okay, and that's my opinion.
2:25:51
SPEAKER_06: And I agree with AG.
2:25:52
SPEAKER_06: Respect is more than love.
2:25:53
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
2:25:54
SPEAKER_06: Because I could say it's more than love.
2:25:57
SPEAKER_06: Because I could I could honestly say, I could honestly No, I could honestly say in my 24 years of living, I've been in multiple relationships.
2:26:08
SPEAKER_06: And no, I would have said I was in love with all of them.
2:26:13
SPEAKER_06: But what I thought what as a as a as a grown-ass fucking man, I may not know everything in the fucking world, but what I thought love was was seeing the way my parents are.
2:26:23
SPEAKER_06: To me, that's love.
2:26:25
SPEAKER_06: They argue, no matter whatever happens, they stick together, they work past it.
2:26:30
SPEAKER_06: And I've been in the situation like K said, saying I love you.
2:26:34
SPEAKER_06: Which one?
2:26:36
SPEAKER_06: The same way KC, a guy can say I love you, but then it turns out different.
2:26:40
SPEAKER_06: Don't get me wrong.
2:26:41
SPEAKER_06: I've told females I love you, and at that time, yeah, it was genuine love, but then as time goes on, certain shit happened and you start reeling that's not real love.
2:26:50
SPEAKER_12: Okay, did you love them or were you in love with them?
2:26:52
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:26:54
SPEAKER_06: I love them because I can honestly say me, I'm the type of guy, like if I if I talk to a female and like we get to that point and something happens, no matter how it is, I'm the type to check on you and make sure you're good because of the fact of what we had.
2:27:09
SPEAKER_06: But I'm not when I say somebody's in love, it's like that person is like their kryptonite.
2:27:15
SPEAKER_06: That person can say whatever, and it's just like fuck.
2:27:17
SPEAKER_06: Like that person really fucking with my mind to say.
2:27:19
SPEAKER_06: That's why I say in love.
2:27:21
SPEAKER_06: That's why I say it's in love.
2:27:22
SPEAKER_06: Love of somebody is no matter how you put it, no matter what each other go through, you have that care for that person.
2:27:27
SPEAKER_12: You're talking about unconditional love.
2:27:29
SPEAKER_12: Because I believe I believe that you can have love for people, but they can do things that they can do things, and here's one thing.
2:27:38
SPEAKER_12: People fall in and out of love all the time.
2:27:41
SPEAKER_12: True.
2:27:42
SPEAKER_12: But I've never re-respected someone.
2:27:45
SPEAKER_06: But that's why I say respect for that.
2:27:46
SPEAKER_12: I've never re-respected someone.
2:27:48
SPEAKER_12: I've never lost respect for someone and then gained it back.
2:27:51
SPEAKER_12: Exactly.
2:27:51
SPEAKER_12: You know what I'm saying?
2:27:52
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
2:27:55
SPEAKER_12: Right.
2:27:55
SPEAKER_12: Exactly.
2:27:56
SPEAKER_12: So, no matter how bad a situation gets when you're involved romantically with someone, and I can speak on facts.
2:28:06
SPEAKER_12: There, you know, there's people in everyone's past who you may love or whatever, but it's like, you know what?
2:28:13
SPEAKER_12: I love I love them from a distance, but fuck that motherfucker.
2:28:17
SPEAKER_06: And that's what I'm saying.
2:28:18
SPEAKER_12: And then there are others where you're like, yo, I love that person, and I will never do anything to disrespect them because of the love that I have for them.
2:28:26
SPEAKER_06: And like you.
2:28:27
SPEAKER_12: And and and you never you never fuck, you know what I'm saying?
2:28:31
SPEAKER_12: Like you never fuck up that that that relationship.
2:28:33
SPEAKER_12: You still might genuinely have love for them and genuinely have a friendship.
2:28:37
SPEAKER_12: But that's what I'm saying, like there's a difference.
2:28:43
SPEAKER_06: If I really respect you, I would never do anything to cross that line to break that respect level.
2:28:49
SPEAKER_14: But when you at work and you got your boss, you respect your boss, right?
2:28:52
SPEAKER_14: You sp you respect what your boss tells you.
2:28:54
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
2:28:55
SPEAKER_14: So, but at the end of the day, you could turn around and talk mad shit about your boss, right?
2:28:59
SPEAKER_14: Like, oh, I hate this.
2:29:00
SPEAKER_14: That's more niggas mad at them.
2:29:01
SPEAKER_14: But let me tell you.
2:29:03
SPEAKER_14: That's not really having respect for somebody.
2:29:04
SPEAKER_12: Let me tell you.
2:29:05
SPEAKER_12: That sounds more of a fear.
2:29:06
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:29:07
SPEAKER_12: Because that's a that's a position of power.
2:29:09
SPEAKER_06: Bree.
2:29:09
SPEAKER_06: Let me tell you something.
2:29:10
SPEAKER_06: Okay, okay.
2:29:10
SPEAKER_06: You're gonna say you respect your boss, but then you talk shit.
2:29:13
SPEAKER_06: That's not respect.
2:29:13
SPEAKER_06: That's not respect.
2:29:14
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna tell you, no, you can say it's respect because I respect my boss in his presence.
2:29:19
SPEAKER_06: But the fact is, the fact is, I would never go to his face and say certain shit because of the respect that I have for him.
2:29:25
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna give him that lead with like you're above.
2:29:28
SPEAKER_02: No, but real respect is you like not saying anything behind their back, too.
2:29:32
SPEAKER_02: You don't listen like in the job, it's different.
2:29:34
SPEAKER_12: Right, real real res real respect when you respect someone or whatever the case is, if you really respect them and they did something that you didn't agree with, you're gonna pull them aside and let them know on the one-on-one.
2:29:43
SPEAKER_12: You know what I'm saying?
2:29:43
SPEAKER_12: It's not and that's respect, and I'm doing that out of love and respect.
2:29:47
SPEAKER_12: Because you can love someone from a distance and say, fuck that person, fuck the relationship.
2:29:52
SPEAKER_12: But when you respect someone, you know what I'm saying, it's a different type of love.
2:29:56
SPEAKER_12: That's what I'm saying.
2:29:57
SPEAKER_12: I definitely it it's but they it's a difference.
2:30:01
SPEAKER_12: It's a difference.
2:30:03
SPEAKER_12: They they do kind of go hand in hand, but I feel respect is uh has a little bit more um dominance.
2:30:15
SPEAKER_02: I get what you're saying.
2:30:18
SPEAKER_12: Do you want to wrap your legs around a fire pole that you're gonna go slide down?
2:30:21
SPEAKER_12: The fuck out of here.
2:30:23
SPEAKER_12: The fuck back on the green lines and go to the Bronx, nigga.
2:30:26
SPEAKER_12: Don't tell me this bullshit.
2:30:27
SPEAKER_12: Fuck outta here.
2:30:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:30:29
SPEAKER_04: Well, um next.
2:30:32
SPEAKER_04: We can get to the gay way.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_12: I'm a good guy.
2:30:35
SPEAKER_12: The gay the great gay way.
2:30:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he knows because he don't want to argue right now.
2:30:39
SPEAKER_02: It's too many women in here.
2:30:40
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, to have the argument with you now that you outnumbered, I'm on your side now.
2:30:44
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I'm not about to do it.
2:30:46
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
2:30:46
SPEAKER_07: I'm putting my I'm throwing into that ring.
2:30:50
SPEAKER_07: We're pocketing.
2:30:51
SPEAKER_12: We we two we two and a half hours in.
2:30:54
SPEAKER_12: What the fuck is another half hour at this point?
2:30:56
SPEAKER_12: Let's go.
2:30:57
SPEAKER_12: Let's go.
2:30:58
SPEAKER_12: Let's go.
2:30:58
SPEAKER_12: Let's go.
2:31:00
SPEAKER_01: No, whatever, no.
2:31:03
SPEAKER_07: Oh no, no, no.
2:31:04
SPEAKER_07: You're doing negation.
2:31:06
SPEAKER_07: You're doing negation.
2:31:09
SPEAKER_07: I told you the word pause the word the word pause is only for homosexuals.
2:31:15
SPEAKER_07: Alright, so I'm gonna open this shit up right now.
2:31:17
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
2:31:18
SPEAKER_05: Hold on, let's comment down in the background.
2:31:20
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna open this shit up right now.
2:31:21
SPEAKER_05: Gay is illogical.
2:31:23
SPEAKER_05: Let's go.
2:31:24
SPEAKER_05: Okay, all right.
2:31:25
SPEAKER_06: Why?
2:31:25
SPEAKER_06: No, that shit's a fucking disease, nigga.
2:31:28
SPEAKER_06: Why, guys?
2:31:31
SPEAKER_02: Explain, explain wrong and wrong.
2:31:34
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:31:35
SPEAKER_02: You can't you can't just drop that.
2:31:37
SPEAKER_02: You have to explain why.
2:31:38
SPEAKER_02: What makes it a logic?
2:31:39
SPEAKER_02: What makes it a disease?
2:31:40
SPEAKER_02: Why?
2:31:41
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so what we're gonna do, what we're gonna do.
2:31:44
SPEAKER_12: They do a lot of shit.
2:31:45
SPEAKER_12: What we're gonna do is be uh shit.
2:31:47
SPEAKER_08: Scientifically speaking, we're gonna be respectful to everyone on the mic.
2:31:50
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, no, no speaking over people.
2:31:52
SPEAKER_12: Let people finish their points.
2:31:53
SPEAKER_12: Let's do it.
2:31:54
SPEAKER_12: Let's go.
2:31:55
SPEAKER_12: Alright, start it up.
2:31:56
SPEAKER_12: Uh no, I was thinking K Ocho's question to your statement of gay being illogical.
2:32:02
SPEAKER_12: Her question to you was Why?
2:32:04
SPEAKER_05: Elaborate.
2:32:05
SPEAKER_05: What makes you specifically?
2:32:07
SPEAKER_05: Let me give you.
2:32:07
SPEAKER_05: Let me give you a story, right?
2:32:09
SPEAKER_05: So I was at work.
2:32:10
SPEAKER_05: It was this woman.
2:32:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I know anecdotal evidence does not exactly that does not count.
2:32:14
SPEAKER_02: I know.
2:32:14
SPEAKER_05: I'm just gonna give you the background on how I came to this conclusion.
2:32:17
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's fair.
2:32:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, that's all I was doing.
2:32:19
SPEAKER_05: So at work, uh there was this woman that we used to flirt heavy, right?
2:32:22
SPEAKER_05: Heavily.
2:32:23
SPEAKER_05: Heavily, yeah.
2:32:24
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
2:32:25
SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
2:32:26
SPEAKER_05: So we used to flirt heavily, right?
2:32:28
SPEAKER_05: And then one day, one day, all right.
2:32:34
SPEAKER_05: So one day now, she brought it to my attention, like just out of nowhere.
2:32:38
SPEAKER_05: Right?
2:32:39
SPEAKER_05: Because I was pulling up on her to do what we normally do.
2:32:42
SPEAKER_05: Flirt?
2:32:43
SPEAKER_05: And she no.
2:32:44
SPEAKER_05: Uh flirt and she Yeah, flirt.
2:32:47
SPEAKER_05: And uh she just In the workplace, right?
2:32:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, in the workplace, yeah.
2:32:52
SPEAKER_05: And she just came out with it.
2:32:53
SPEAKER_05: You know I'm gay, right?
2:32:54
SPEAKER_05: I was just like, what?
2:32:56
SPEAKER_05: So this threw me off.
2:32:57
SPEAKER_05: Because the whole time I'm thinking, oh, you you know, there's a pot I have potential in having sex with you.
2:33:02
SPEAKER_05: There's some potential in me having sex with you.
2:33:04
SPEAKER_05: So what up?
2:33:05
SPEAKER_12: Fucking dog.
2:33:06
SPEAKER_05: Uh, okay.
2:33:07
SPEAKER_05: Uh so then I just thought to myself, so I started asking her questions, like, yo, but like, when did you notice you was like how I'm confused, so I'm like, yo, when did you notice you was gay?
2:33:16
SPEAKER_05: Like, how did this happen?
2:33:17
SPEAKER_05: Did uh like a dike just come along the way since the time we've been uh like absent from each other and just turn out?
2:33:23
SPEAKER_05: You know, so I'm thinking about it and I just came to the c so I'm asking her, like, all right, so what about women is it that you find them to be more attractive?
2:33:31
SPEAKER_05: No, no, more that you want to give them, you want to give yourself to them than men.
2:33:36
SPEAKER_02: But yes, more attractive.
2:33:37
SPEAKER_02: That is the term.
2:33:37
SPEAKER_02: They are attractive.
2:33:39
SPEAKER_02: Women are more beautiful than that.
2:33:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay, the same reason you're attracted to women is the same reason other women are attracted to.
2:33:48
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:33:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, why can't a woman be attracted to the same thing you're attracted to?
2:33:50
SPEAKER_05: So then she's letting me so Wait, hold on, hold on.
2:33:53
SPEAKER_05: Let me finish.
2:33:54
SPEAKER_05: Nobody else talk, nobody else talk.
2:33:56
SPEAKER_05: Nigga, how are you a fucking story?
2:33:58
SPEAKER_05: I'm done, I'm done with the story.
2:34:00
SPEAKER_05: So no, no, I started asking her, like, okay, so what about women?
2:34:02
SPEAKER_05: Is it what about what about women do you find that you want I mean you f you choose what about women is the reason why you choose them over men?
2:34:10
SPEAKER_05: And she went on to say that uh it was because she had better connections with women.
2:34:13
SPEAKER_05: So I was just thinking to myself, like, okay, yeah, you of course you would have a better connection with a woman, you're a woman, so I'm pretty sure you guys can relate on many things.
2:34:20
SPEAKER_05: But that's not always good.
2:34:22
SPEAKER_05: But hold on.
2:34:23
SPEAKER_05: But outside of all that bullshit, like the the the skin that we carry on each other, on us, right?
2:34:29
SPEAKER_05: We're all spiritual beings, right?
2:34:31
SPEAKER_05: Inside of this skin.
2:34:32
SPEAKER_05: Things we cannot see, like our emotions, how we think, how we feel about those.
2:34:36
SPEAKER_11: Or where the fuck you going with this point?
2:34:39
SPEAKER_05: What do you mean?
2:34:39
SPEAKER_05: I'm saying things we can't see.
2:34:42
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it makes sense.
2:34:43
SPEAKER_02: But she explained to you logically why she was attracted to women.
2:34:47
SPEAKER_02: So why would you say it's illogical?
2:34:48
SPEAKER_05: No, no, that makes sense.
2:34:50
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
2:34:50
SPEAKER_05: But I'm saying you can have a connection with any human being on this earth, no matter what they look like.
2:34:55
SPEAKER_02: That's called being a pansexual, by the way.
2:34:57
SPEAKER_05: Oh, fuck that sexual shit.
2:34:59
SPEAKER_05: There's only one two.
2:35:00
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
2:35:01
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:35:01
SPEAKER_02: So a pansexual, they're attracted to it's people.
2:35:04
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't, regardless.
2:35:06
SPEAKER_02: So they're bisexual.
2:35:06
SPEAKER_02: Irregardless, it's not the same.
2:35:08
SPEAKER_02: Why aren't they bisexual?
2:35:09
SPEAKER_02: It's not the same because there's diff there's more types of people than just men and women.
2:35:11
SPEAKER_05: I don't want you to media.
2:35:13
SPEAKER_02: So I just I'm just getting that clear.
2:35:15
SPEAKER_05: You're right.
2:35:16
SPEAKER_02: A pansexual doesn't base their decision on dating someone based on gender.
2:35:21
SPEAKER_02: So you're not like you're a man, I'm dating you, you're a woman, I'm dating you.
2:35:24
SPEAKER_02: That's bisexual.
2:35:25
SPEAKER_02: What is it?
2:35:26
SPEAKER_02: They could like a transgender, they could like an intersex person.
2:35:29
SPEAKER_02: So a pansexual is someone who bases their connections on people not based on on their gender.
2:35:35
SPEAKER_02: So that's what you just said.
2:35:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, we're attracted by spirit.
2:35:39
SPEAKER_04: Well, what is gender?
2:35:40
SPEAKER_04: You mentioned the word gender.
2:35:41
SPEAKER_04: Characteristic.
2:35:43
SPEAKER_04: That's what gender is.
2:35:44
SPEAKER_02: Gender?
2:35:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm saying there's It depends what we're talking about.
2:35:48
SPEAKER_02: Gender and sexual identity.
2:35:49
SPEAKER_07: I literally said, what is gender?
2:35:51
SPEAKER_02: So gender has to do also with the roles that you play in society, right?
2:35:54
SPEAKER_02: Like you said, men and women are different, so now like there are different roles that men and women play.
2:35:59
SPEAKER_02: So gender doesn't have to do with the same exact thing as sex, right?
2:36:03
SPEAKER_02: Your genetic sex, right?
2:36:05
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:36:05
SPEAKER_02: They're different things.
2:36:06
SPEAKER_02: But gender is more of a societal construct.
2:36:10
SPEAKER_07: Let's eliminate gender for the sake of your argument, right?
2:36:13
SPEAKER_07: So in terms of reproduction, what how is a homosexual relationship a logical one?
2:36:20
SPEAKER_07: In the terms of reproduction.
2:36:22
SPEAKER_07: It's not.
2:36:25
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:36:25
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:36:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:36:27
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, in terms of reproduction, uh same uh same sex.
2:36:30
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, it's not logical or logical.
2:36:32
SPEAKER_02: It's just it's not gonna it's not successful.
2:36:34
SPEAKER_07: So it's what it's not successful.
2:36:35
SPEAKER_02: So it's not a log it's no, because it doesn't reproduction right now.
2:36:41
SPEAKER_02: This is not what we need to do to survive.
2:36:42
SPEAKER_02: It's not something that we need we're overpopulated in this.
2:36:45
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:36:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, this planet is already holding.
2:36:47
SPEAKER_07: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
2:36:48
SPEAKER_07: So that does not have to determine who are we changing the argument.
2:36:53
SPEAKER_07: I want to know.
2:36:54
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, because I'm saying it's not gonna be successful for that reason.
2:36:57
SPEAKER_02: But in this day and time, you're not fighting for reproduction at all.
2:37:03
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't, that doesn't, that doesn't have to be a a basis for your basis for your relationship.
2:37:12
SPEAKER_07: No, they cannot have babies in the world.
2:37:14
SPEAKER_07: Yes, they can.
2:37:15
SPEAKER_02: Yes, they can, because they get they get a sperm donor.
2:37:18
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so that the move, but it's not basically.
2:37:20
SPEAKER_02: But I'm saying they still exactly but they still have a lot of people.
2:37:24
SPEAKER_02: They can still have a family, though.
2:37:26
SPEAKER_02: But they're not having sex.
2:37:27
SPEAKER_07: I never said reproduction.
2:37:31
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
2:37:32
SPEAKER_07: All I'm gonna say is this.
2:37:33
SPEAKER_02: Listen, biologically speaking, I get what you're saying, but I don't get how that's important.
2:37:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't get how that relates.
2:37:39
SPEAKER_07: My argument, my argument, the only one that is sound, that has facts based is the biological argument.
2:37:47
SPEAKER_07: Because for me, because for me, I am not with the gay persuasion, because I am trying to build a legacy for my family.
2:37:57
SPEAKER_07: And if one of my sons, God forbid, turned out to be a homosexual male, he would be.
2:38:03
SPEAKER_07: You better hope, because the way this is going, it's like a bitch.
2:38:06
SPEAKER_15: Exactly.
2:38:07
SPEAKER_07: It's not a karma thing.
2:38:08
SPEAKER_07: I don't hate gay people.
2:38:09
SPEAKER_07: There's no karma, karma's not even a real thing.
2:38:10
SPEAKER_07: But, anyways, so the point I'm trying to make is for I don't want to make the religious argument because I really could, but it doesn't matter because we're gonna make argument semantics.
2:38:18
SPEAKER_07: I don't want to make social arguments.
2:38:20
SPEAKER_07: I'm just gonna make a simple argument that's which is my argument that I constructed.
2:38:24
SPEAKER_13: Uh-huh.
2:38:24
SPEAKER_07: For my children's sake, the two things that I'm concerned about is continuing my legacy and quality of life.
2:38:31
SPEAKER_07: The homeless I gave you the the graph.
2:38:33
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
2:38:34
SPEAKER_07: The black homosexuals are exposed to HIV.
2:38:38
SPEAKER_07: My son will be a black homosexual.
2:38:40
SPEAKER_07: God forbid if he's a homosexual.
2:38:42
SPEAKER_02: But if you teach, listen, it has to do with also education, access to healthcare.
2:38:46
SPEAKER_02: If you get if you if that person has that access, it doesn't matter.
2:38:51
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter if they are gay or bisexual.
2:38:58
SPEAKER_07: But this life, life is the greatest teacher.
2:39:01
SPEAKER_07: I can teach my son as much as I want to do.
2:39:02
SPEAKER_12: I was never taught not to smoke weed.
2:39:04
SPEAKER_07: But life is the greatest teacher.
2:39:06
SPEAKER_07: I was taught to smoke weed.
2:39:10
SPEAKER_12: I'm lying, people.
2:39:11
SPEAKER_07: The gay shit is okay.
2:39:13
SPEAKER_07: I listen, that's not for me to decide for everybody else.
2:39:17
SPEAKER_07: But for my family, I'm gonna tell them the two reasons why it's not okay is one, because son, your job on this planet is to reproduce, to continue our legacy.
2:39:28
SPEAKER_07: Because it's not mine no more.
2:39:29
SPEAKER_07: Once he's a man, it's our legacy now.
2:39:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:39:32
SPEAKER_07: But he cannot do that as a homosexual man.
2:39:35
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
2:39:36
SPEAKER_13: The reason why I feel like it's like you said though, your job as a father, as a parent, is to do your best to be the guidance.
2:39:45
SPEAKER_07: My best.
2:39:46
SPEAKER_13: But you do not own his path of life.
2:39:49
SPEAKER_13: Oh.
2:39:49
SPEAKER_07: So if you guide him to do what he wants to once he's living under my roof, now we have a part of the roof.
2:39:55
SPEAKER_07: All right.
2:39:57
SPEAKER_10: All right, so he's not having She owns everything.
2:39:59
SPEAKER_10: AG, I got a question.
2:40:00
SPEAKER_10: A G, I got a question.
2:40:03
SPEAKER_07: This is just for me.
2:40:04
SPEAKER_02: Just like when you want tattoos or something like that.
2:40:06
SPEAKER_07: We made a good point.
2:40:06
SPEAKER_07: Can can somebody hear our point?
2:40:08
SPEAKER_02: So you could say that, yeah, if you know, in that argument, if you're living under my roof, you can't be that.
2:40:13
SPEAKER_02: But once they leave, then you don't you have no ownership over them.
2:40:16
SPEAKER_07: Absolutely not.
2:40:17
SPEAKER_02: No, but then he's gonna say he hasn't said that he's gonna be able to do it.
2:40:20
SPEAKER_14: He has his own life, his own path's life because his child is gay.
2:40:24
SPEAKER_14: On birthdays, I'm not a part of that because my son is gay.
2:40:27
SPEAKER_14: On Christmas, my son cannot come to the house with a bigger thing.
2:40:29
SPEAKER_14: Listen, I'm saying if we feel like that shit is ridiculous.
2:40:32
SPEAKER_14: How are you gonna sit there and say that?
2:40:33
SPEAKER_17: If we followed the same path as our our parents, our world would be a lot different.
2:40:39
SPEAKER_17: Like this, there would still be slavery.
2:40:41
SPEAKER_10: There would still be not warning children.
2:40:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying if we forced our agenda onto our kids, our world would not progress.
2:40:49
SPEAKER_02: We would stay stagnant.
2:40:51
unknown: Okay.
2:40:51
SPEAKER_02: If our world, if we did not grow and evolve and change, that's what life is, that's what people are.
2:40:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:40:56
SPEAKER_02: We're not supposed to stay the same.
2:40:58
SPEAKER_06: I understand that.
2:41:00
SPEAKER_06: But this is why I'm gonna keep it a few evolution.
2:41:02
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna speak from why I don't believe it is.
2:41:04
SPEAKER_06: If anything, that'll help because we're overpopulated.
2:41:07
SPEAKER_06: We're overpopulated.
2:41:08
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
2:41:08
SPEAKER_06: And that is killing everybody.
2:41:13
SPEAKER_06: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
2:41:14
SPEAKER_17: If anything heterosexual sex is illogical because we're not gonna be able to do that, it's not that it's a simple fact like that.
2:41:20
SPEAKER_06: If anything heterosexual sex is illogical because it's killing us.
2:41:24
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna tell you.
2:41:26
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
2:41:27
SPEAKER_02: Reproduction is not an issue.
2:41:28
SPEAKER_02: We need to decrease the population.
2:41:35
SPEAKER_02: Exactly my point.
2:41:36
SPEAKER_02: Let me speak.
2:41:37
SPEAKER_02: Let me speak.
2:41:38
SPEAKER_06: Let me speak.
2:41:38
SPEAKER_06: This is why me as a person, well, I don't believe in that shit.
2:41:42
SPEAKER_06: Because what kills me is gay shit.
2:41:44
SPEAKER_14: That gay shit.
2:41:45
SPEAKER_06: Wait, what do you don't believe?
2:41:46
SPEAKER_06: This is what kills me.
2:41:47
SPEAKER_06: That's a real thing.
2:41:49
SPEAKER_06: Females.
2:41:50
SPEAKER_06: They'll be like, okay, I'm lesbian.
2:41:51
SPEAKER_06: Women.
2:41:52
SPEAKER_06: Uh woman.
2:41:52
SPEAKER_06: They'll be, I'm lesbian, but I'm going after a dike.
2:41:54
SPEAKER_06: Okay, what the fuck does a dike do?
2:41:56
SPEAKER_06: The same shit as a fucking nigga.
2:41:57
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not because they have different bodies.
2:41:59
SPEAKER_02: It's not a big thing.
2:42:00
SPEAKER_02: So, okay, so look.
2:42:01
SPEAKER_02: She acts like a guy, dressed like a guy.
2:42:02
SPEAKER_02: The only thing she got is the vagina.
2:42:04
SPEAKER_02: But that's what she's attracted to.
2:42:06
SPEAKER_02: The vagina.
2:42:07
SPEAKER_02: But then you're not attracted to the vagina.
2:42:10
SPEAKER_06: But then you're not attracted to a feminine female.
2:42:12
SPEAKER_06: So what's the difference?
2:42:13
SPEAKER_09: Because they're still females.
2:42:16
SPEAKER_09: They have different roles.
2:42:19
SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
2:42:20
SPEAKER_09: The best of both worlds.
2:42:21
SPEAKER_09: Hold on, hold on.
2:42:22
SPEAKER_09: Best of both worlds.
2:42:23
SPEAKER_09: You're not even on that type of time.
2:42:25
SPEAKER_06: Uh-oh.
2:42:26
SPEAKER_02: Because at the end of the day, she at the end of the day, she is not fucking that girl with clothes on.
2:42:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay?
2:42:32
SPEAKER_02: So that's not that stupid.
2:42:33
SPEAKER_02: But she's getting fucked by step ones.
2:42:34
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no.
2:42:35
SPEAKER_02: Not all of them.
2:42:36
SPEAKER_02: Not all of them.
2:42:37
SPEAKER_02: Some of them.
2:42:38
SPEAKER_02: Not all of them.
2:42:39
SPEAKER_02: Some of them seem to be.
2:42:41
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck?
2:42:41
SPEAKER_02: Not even scissors.
2:42:42
SPEAKER_02: Not even scissors.
2:42:47
SPEAKER_02: No, the tongue can do amazing things.
2:42:50
SPEAKER_02: Lesbians have way more orgasms than stray couples.
2:42:53
SPEAKER_02: That's any couple.
2:42:54
SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
2:42:55
SPEAKER_06: That's a straight couple that you may know.
2:42:57
SPEAKER_06: No.
2:43:00
SPEAKER_06: We don't need it.
2:43:04
SPEAKER_06: Tell us.
2:43:04
SPEAKER_06: I'm talking about it.
2:43:08
SPEAKER_06: That is a statistic.
2:43:09
SPEAKER_06: Lesbians have way more orgasms than anybody.
2:43:13
SPEAKER_06: Than anybody.
2:43:14
SPEAKER_06: So why are you in turn?
2:43:15
SPEAKER_06: Why do you talk to a female yet?
2:43:17
SPEAKER_02: Mind you, I didn't know.
2:43:17
SPEAKER_06: Why do you interact to a female yet?
2:43:19
SPEAKER_02: I did have a relationship with a female.
2:43:21
SPEAKER_02: I did.
2:43:22
SPEAKER_02: I did have a before Arian, I was in a relationship with the woman.
2:43:26
SPEAKER_02: With the woman.
2:43:28
SPEAKER_07: This nigga's lucky, son.
2:43:29
SPEAKER_06: So like I said.
2:43:30
SPEAKER_06: What happened?
2:43:31
SPEAKER_06: And what happened?
2:43:32
SPEAKER_06: You came back to the other side.
2:43:33
SPEAKER_06: Like, listen, I can't do it with that.
2:43:35
SPEAKER_06: The original man stepped in the building.
2:43:36
SPEAKER_06: That's what I was saying.
2:43:38
SPEAKER_16: Listen.
2:43:39
SPEAKER_02: Listen.
2:43:41
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
2:43:42
SPEAKER_06: You mean by bicurious?
2:43:43
SPEAKER_06: You might, you might, listen, you might.
2:43:46
SPEAKER_06: What is bicurious?
2:43:47
SPEAKER_02: See, what V Block said, what V Block.
2:43:49
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.
2:43:51
SPEAKER_02: Listen, listen.
2:43:52
SPEAKER_02: Listen.
2:43:53
SPEAKER_02: What V Block said is you what she said is like maybe you may have that connection for that person.
2:43:59
SPEAKER_02: For that person.
2:44:00
SPEAKER_02: She's the only she's the only woman I was in a relationship with, right?
2:44:03
SPEAKER_02: But then you never know until you try it out sometimes.
2:44:06
SPEAKER_06: Let me ask you.
2:44:07
SPEAKER_06: Right?
2:44:08
SPEAKER_06: If a guy felt that same way, what are you gonna say about him?
2:44:11
SPEAKER_06: Gay.
2:44:13
SPEAKER_02: He's gay.
2:44:13
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no, no.
2:44:15
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, hold on.
2:44:15
SPEAKER_06: No!
2:44:17
SPEAKER_17: No such thing as a bisexual man.
2:44:18
SPEAKER_00: He's gay.
2:44:19
SPEAKER_17: End of story.
2:44:20
SPEAKER_17: Exactly.
2:44:20
SPEAKER_06: End of story.
2:44:22
SPEAKER_06: End of story.
2:44:22
SPEAKER_06: Decided that it wasn't for him.
2:44:24
SPEAKER_06: No, fuck it.
2:44:25
SPEAKER_06: So wait.
2:44:25
SPEAKER_06: So if one of your guy friends decide, yo, I'm feeling this nigga, I'm gonna suck the nigga dick, but I still like pussy.
2:44:31
SPEAKER_06: That's okay.
2:44:32
SPEAKER_06: That's okay.
2:44:33
SPEAKER_06: That is okay.
2:44:34
SPEAKER_06: Do what you want.
2:44:35
SPEAKER_02: Do what you want.
2:44:36
SPEAKER_02: Why is it not okay?
2:44:37
SPEAKER_02: Why is it not okay to do what you want?
2:44:40
SPEAKER_02: Why is it not okay to do what you want?
2:44:41
SPEAKER_07: You wouldn't respect him anymore.
2:44:43
SPEAKER_02: You want to suck dick and fuck pussy the whole time.
2:44:45
SPEAKER_02: I love him, so you wouldn't respect that.
2:44:46
SPEAKER_02: That's what you're doing.
2:44:48
SPEAKER_02: And that's how age comes around.
2:44:49
SPEAKER_02: You have to do double dipping things.
2:44:52
SPEAKER_02: When we're talking about toxic masculinity, that's when you're like, oh, you're not gonna respect him.
2:44:56
SPEAKER_02: But for me, I still respect them.
2:44:58
SPEAKER_02: I let people do what they want to do.
2:45:00
SPEAKER_17: I don't understand why people care so much.
2:45:02
SPEAKER_17: I really care.
2:45:03
SPEAKER_17: Why are y'all so curious about what other people do?
2:45:07
SPEAKER_17: I think it's suspect, but people care so much what gay people do.
2:45:11
SPEAKER_17: Like, why are you speaking about them?
2:45:12
SPEAKER_17: Why it's on your mind so much?
2:45:14
SPEAKER_12: Can I just bring up this one?
2:45:15
SPEAKER_06: You know why it's on my mind?
2:45:16
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, hold on.
2:45:17
SPEAKER_06: You know why it's really on my mind?
2:45:19
SPEAKER_06: Because I am very scared of my child, either boy or girl, turning out to be that way.
2:45:26
SPEAKER_06: And I'll keep it a buck.
2:45:28
SPEAKER_06: If it's a guy, I'm gonna be more.
2:45:30
SPEAKER_06: You're saying, prepare yourself.
2:45:31
SPEAKER_06: If it's a female, if it's a woman, I'll be like, I'll still be mad.
2:45:36
SPEAKER_06: I'm not gonna be mad.
2:45:37
SPEAKER_06: But like you give your daughter away anyway.
2:45:40
SPEAKER_06: Like AJ said, like why is it okay to be gay?
2:45:45
SPEAKER_13: If you're a female, like AG sex, like AG sex, why would you accept your dice?
2:45:50
SPEAKER_13: You know why?
2:45:51
SPEAKER_13: You know why?
2:45:51
SPEAKER_13: You know why?
2:45:52
SPEAKER_06: I'll keep it a book.
2:45:53
SPEAKER_06: Like AG said, if you're my daughter, no matter if you married a guy or a woman, that's my legacy's done.
2:45:58
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you're being given away.
2:45:59
SPEAKER_06: Done.
2:46:00
SPEAKER_06: You're giving you being given away.
2:46:03
SPEAKER_06: If he turns out to be gay, only child.
2:46:05
SPEAKER_06: It's legacy.
2:46:06
SPEAKER_06: My name dies.
2:46:07
SPEAKER_02: No, it doesn't.
2:46:08
SPEAKER_02: How?
2:46:09
SPEAKER_02: Y'all are acting.
2:46:10
SPEAKER_02: Listen, stop, stop, stop, stop.
2:46:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:46:13
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, listeners, that this is getting so loud.
2:46:15
SPEAKER_02: Put the volume down.
2:46:17
SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
2:46:18
SPEAKER_02: But listen.
2:46:19
SPEAKER_02: But that's nothing about it.
2:46:21
SPEAKER_02: Same-sex couples still have kids that can still be genetically theirs because they either have surrogates, they have people they pay to carry a child.
2:46:33
SPEAKER_02: To carry a child.
2:46:34
SPEAKER_02: It could be, yes, it can.
2:46:36
SPEAKER_02: It could be their name.
2:46:37
SPEAKER_02: It could be your name and your genes.
2:46:40
SPEAKER_02: What if mom's done?
2:46:41
SPEAKER_02: What if you've got to all adopt?
2:46:43
SPEAKER_02: They can have two last names.
2:46:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:46:45
SPEAKER_02: I was about to say, a lot of women don't even take their husband's last name anymore.
2:46:48
SPEAKER_17: So that makes sense.
2:46:50
SPEAKER_17: What if adding on if I am not taking someone's name?
2:46:53
SPEAKER_06: It's either both of them.
2:46:54
SPEAKER_06: Can I ask a simple question to y'all females?
2:46:56
SPEAKER_06: What if my what if my son turns out to be the woman in the situation that's given up his name?
2:47:01
SPEAKER_06: What am I gonna say?
2:47:03
SPEAKER_06: He the take and not the giver.
2:47:05
SPEAKER_06: He the captain.
2:47:05
SPEAKER_06: Okay, but I'm just saying bye-bye.
2:47:08
SPEAKER_02: I just I just think that's a good idea.
2:47:09
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm saying you guys are thinking it's just one situation.
2:47:12
SPEAKER_02: My legacy guys know because they are gay people who still have kids.
2:47:15
SPEAKER_02: Gay people need straight people to exist.
2:47:18
SPEAKER_02: So that's not true.
2:47:19
SPEAKER_02: Just because you're gay, doesn't mean you cannot have kids.
2:47:21
SPEAKER_02: There are different methods of having kids, people.
2:47:24
unknown: Alright.
2:47:24
SPEAKER_08: There are different methods.
2:47:26
SPEAKER_02: Just because you're gay doesn't mean you don't have kids.
2:47:29
SPEAKER_13: I need the fucking microphone at the end of the day.
2:47:35
SPEAKER_13: Hold on.
2:47:37
SPEAKER_07: Speaking to the m- Speaker to the mic, V Block.
2:47:39
SPEAKER_13: Alright, it's V Block.
2:47:40
SPEAKER_13: Alright.
2:47:41
SPEAKER_13: Alright, look.
2:47:42
SPEAKER_13: This is all I'm saying.
2:47:45
SPEAKER_13: At the end of the day, let's say you're in adoption, right?
2:47:50
SPEAKER_13: And somebody takes you in.
2:47:52
SPEAKER_13: That's your family now.
2:47:54
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
2:47:54
SPEAKER_13: So my point is, so what if you have a carrier or a sperm donor?
2:47:59
SPEAKER_13: You can still create that feel, whether you're a female or a male.
2:48:02
SPEAKER_12: It's not authentic.
2:48:03
SPEAKER_13: I'm not taking their name.
2:48:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:48:05
SPEAKER_17: And they can still and they can still have their name.
2:48:07
SPEAKER_17: And they can still have biology.
2:48:09
SPEAKER_17: They can still have your hands.
2:48:11
SPEAKER_13: Because if you're if you're concerned about it, that's what I'm saying.
2:48:15
SPEAKER_13: That's exactly what you're saying.
2:48:16
SPEAKER_13: That's what I'm saying about somebody's birth certificate fucking social.
2:48:20
SPEAKER_13: That's what you're concerned about.
2:48:21
SPEAKER_02: It's the same thing.
2:48:22
SPEAKER_02: Like you can fuck someone once and never talk to them again and get pregnant.
2:48:25
SPEAKER_02: That's technically a sperm daughter.
2:48:26
SPEAKER_02: What's his point?
2:48:27
SPEAKER_13: Somebody give him the microphone.
2:48:29
SPEAKER_02: That's not authentic.
2:48:30
SPEAKER_10: Wow, that's a sperm.
2:48:31
SPEAKER_10: So it's no AG, can you continue with what you were saying?
2:48:34
SPEAKER_10: What's your point?
2:48:34
SPEAKER_10: The point was it's biology.
2:48:36
SPEAKER_10: It's biology.
2:48:37
SPEAKER_10: Biology.
2:48:38
SPEAKER_10: My genes are partners.
2:48:40
SPEAKER_10: My genes are not natural.
2:48:42
SPEAKER_10: That is his point.
2:48:42
SPEAKER_02: But you can have your genes pass forward if that's the route.
2:48:46
SPEAKER_07: If my son is gay, right?
2:48:47
SPEAKER_02: Tell me how to point blank.
2:48:49
SPEAKER_02: His sperm, it's called in vitro fertilization, right?
2:48:52
SPEAKER_02: So they take his sperm, right?
2:48:54
SPEAKER_02: Right?
2:48:54
SPEAKER_07: And then egg of what?
2:48:56
SPEAKER_07: Another woman.
2:48:57
SPEAKER_07: Yes, another woman.
2:48:58
SPEAKER_02: No, he can choose.
2:48:59
SPEAKER_02: They choose the characteristics, what they look like.
2:49:02
SPEAKER_02: They choose at the end of the day, they can choose genes.
2:49:06
SPEAKER_02: They can choose genes.
2:49:08
SPEAKER_02: And that's still your genes being passed on.
2:49:12
SPEAKER_02: But then you guys, see, but you guys are being very picky because, like, do you want the genes or do you want the gym?
2:49:17
SPEAKER_07: Why am I not allowed to be picky about where my legacy goes?
2:49:20
SPEAKER_07: I didn't choose some random woman on the street to have my kids with.
2:49:23
SPEAKER_07: I chose somebody that I think.
2:49:24
SPEAKER_02: But then isn't your isn't still your it's still half of your genes.
2:49:26
SPEAKER_02: But then now you're like, oh no, it's not the woman that he loves, or it's not the woman because he chose that.
2:49:31
SPEAKER_02: Appropriate.
2:49:31
SPEAKER_02: He chose he's now appropriate.
2:49:34
SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
2:49:35
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm trying to pick apart their argument.
2:49:37
SPEAKER_02: Just the fuck.
2:49:38
SPEAKER_05: You are missing out on the biggest problem with this month with this dude right here.
2:49:42
SPEAKER_05: Why is he planning his child's life for them?
2:49:45
SPEAKER_05: Because nobody picked on that.
2:49:46
SPEAKER_05: Nobody picked on that.
2:49:47
SPEAKER_02: He's my child.
2:49:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, yeah, B Block, she did, she did address that about their path in life.
2:49:53
SPEAKER_06: The reason why I'm choosing my child's life is not that.
2:49:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, I understand that, but I'm just saying just because you are gay doesn't mean that you cannot pass on your jeans.
2:50:04
SPEAKER_02: That was my point.
2:50:05
SPEAKER_02: So wait.
2:50:05
SPEAKER_02: They can still have kids.
2:50:06
SPEAKER_02: They can still have to remember their name.
2:50:10
SPEAKER_06: So you want my son to be black and kids.
2:50:12
SPEAKER_02: It's just not the traditional way that you would like to do.
2:50:14
SPEAKER_02: I understand that.
2:50:15
SPEAKER_02: So your point is he's correct on the fact that the biggest thing is.
2:50:27
SPEAKER_02: They have a difficult life.
2:50:28
SPEAKER_07: That's it.
2:50:28
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's listen.
2:50:30
SPEAKER_11: It's bad enough.
2:50:32
SPEAKER_11: It's bad enough being black.
2:50:33
SPEAKER_11: You gotta be gay too.
2:50:34
SPEAKER_11: That's a double- that's double discrimination.
2:50:36
SPEAKER_11: I don't like them around me.
2:50:37
SPEAKER_02: It has to be done through the body.
2:50:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, see, that's okay.
2:50:40
SPEAKER_12: Like I understand, you know, you know who has it the worst?
2:50:44
SPEAKER_12: You know how the world.
2:50:45
SPEAKER_12: No, no.
2:50:46
SPEAKER_12: You know who has it the worst?
2:50:48
SPEAKER_03: Who got it the worst?
2:50:49
SPEAKER_12: The homophobic father.
2:50:52
SPEAKER_12: Who has to No no, excuse me.
2:50:54
SPEAKER_12: The homophobic racist white father who has to accept the fact that his white son's being penetrated by a black man, that has to be the hardest fucking thing in the world to digest as a as a racist.
2:51:08
SPEAKER_02: No, no, as a racist.
2:51:09
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
2:51:10
SPEAKER_02: You're a racist.
2:51:11
SPEAKER_02: You're a racist.
2:51:12
SPEAKER_02: Like that's what I'm saying.
2:51:13
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but my only qualm Alright, so can I say my only qualm with TC's statement was that to me, it's not illogical to be gay.
2:51:25
SPEAKER_02: I understand that what AG said, he just doesn't want it for his children because of the lifestyle, right?
2:51:30
SPEAKER_02: You have you can have higher rates of HIV, you know, in terms of the stigma that they face, you know, it's it's all it's a difficult life.
2:51:37
SPEAKER_02: So I understand that that he personally just doesn't want that for his children.
2:51:41
SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
2:51:41
SPEAKER_02: But I do not I do not agree with the statement that it's illogical.
2:51:44
SPEAKER_05: No, I think it's illogical because.
2:51:46
SPEAKER_05: And I don't think it's illogical either.
2:51:47
SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait, wait.
2:51:48
SPEAKER_05: For what reasons would a woman or a man say, I as a man, a man say, Oh, I want a man.
2:51:53
SPEAKER_05: Because he wants dick?
2:51:54
SPEAKER_02: Listen, it's a man.
2:51:57
SPEAKER_02: It's biological as well.
2:51:58
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of biological evidence.
2:52:01
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of biological evidence, right, in terms of differences in the brain that occur in heterosexual and homosexual people.
2:52:09
SPEAKER_02: So there's you just don't know you you don't know the biological evidence.
2:52:12
SPEAKER_02: But there are reasons that your brain controls your behavior, does it not?
2:52:16
SPEAKER_02: Does it not?
2:52:17
SPEAKER_02: Yes, right?
2:52:18
SPEAKER_02: Right?
2:52:18
SPEAKER_02: So there are certain things in your brain that leads you to be attracted to a certain person or a certain gender, right?
2:52:24
SPEAKER_07: It's a chemical imbalance?
2:52:25
SPEAKER_02: No, it is not a chemical imbalance.
2:52:27
SPEAKER_02: It's not a chemical imbalance.
2:52:29
SPEAKER_02: There are just differences in your brain.
2:52:31
SPEAKER_02: There's differences in your like let's say they have some, they have, they have, right, you have sexual dimorphic parts in your body, right?
2:52:38
SPEAKER_02: So like some parts of our brain in the men and women are different.
2:52:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:52:42
SPEAKER_02: They are different, right?
2:52:43
SPEAKER_02: So in homosexual men, some evidence shows that it it favors more of the opposite sex.
2:52:49
SPEAKER_07: So what about a man?
2:52:51
SPEAKER_07: And there's no condition to women that are only 13 years old.
2:52:55
SPEAKER_07: So again, if he has something like he has something in his brain that's telling him he's only attracted to women that are 13 years old, what do you say about that?
2:53:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm not, yeah, I'm I don't know if there's something.
2:53:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if there's biological evidence for that.
2:53:10
SPEAKER_07: Because there's a bunch of these people fighting.
2:53:12
SPEAKER_07: This is anecdotal evidence.
2:53:14
SPEAKER_07: I know we really don't like to use that, but this is a TED talk.
2:53:16
SPEAKER_07: You know, TED Talk is kind of established.
2:53:17
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
2:53:18
SPEAKER_07: And it was a guy, I forgot his name.
2:53:19
SPEAKER_07: We spoke about this before in the podcast.
2:53:21
SPEAKER_07: He said that he was attracted to this young lady, 13, 14.
2:53:24
SPEAKER_07: As soon as she hit 15, 16, the attraction was gone.
2:53:28
SPEAKER_07: He moved on to another 13-year-old.
2:53:29
SPEAKER_07: He's just attracted to women that are in that age bracket.
2:53:32
SPEAKER_07: Are you telling him his lifestyle is wrong?
2:53:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, the issue is in terms of that, the issue is consent, right?
2:53:39
SPEAKER_02: The issue is consent.
2:53:41
SPEAKER_02: The issue is consent.
2:53:43
SPEAKER_07: Is he wrong?
2:53:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, because that's just how they do it.
2:53:45
SPEAKER_02: That's how they do it.
2:53:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
2:53:47
SPEAKER_02: If that's the culture, it's different because there are laws, like that's illegal here in America, right?
2:53:52
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, it's not remove laws when we all mess up.
2:53:54
SPEAKER_07: Because homosexuality was illegal at one point, so we had to remove that.
2:53:58
SPEAKER_07: So if we remove pedophilia as a But that's different than age.
2:54:01
SPEAKER_02: That's different with age.
2:54:02
SPEAKER_02: That's different with age.
2:54:04
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
2:54:04
SPEAKER_02: That's different with age.
2:54:05
SPEAKER_02: A 12-year-old and a 20-year-old are different.
2:54:08
SPEAKER_02: Okay, they probably don't have a sexual relationship.
2:54:14
SPEAKER_02: And the thing is, it's the reason why the reason why there's a stigma towards that is because when you're that young, your brain isn't fully developed.
2:54:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:54:23
SPEAKER_02: You can't make certain decisions.
2:54:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but you're pre-class the cortex that makes decisions.
2:54:28
SPEAKER_07: If there's a nine-year-old that can say he's gay, why is there not a 25-year-old man that can say, I like 13-year-old girls, and a 13-year-old girl can say, I like 10%.
2:54:35
SPEAKER_07: That's not the same situation.
2:54:36
SPEAKER_07: That's not the same situation.
2:54:38
SPEAKER_07: That's the same thing.
2:54:40
SPEAKER_07: And that is why you allow that when you allow this type of activity to occur unchecked.
2:54:46
SPEAKER_07: That's not the same thing.
2:54:47
SPEAKER_07: Because LGBQT is about to add people pedophilia to it, yeah.
2:54:51
SPEAKER_07: And that is my issue.
2:54:52
SPEAKER_07: The pedophiles are fighting for it, but I don't think they're not going to be able to do that.
2:54:56
SPEAKER_07: If my kid is gonna go to a school where they're telling them, yo, you can be gay, you can identify as a woman, and then in a few years, you could like girls.
2:55:03
SPEAKER_07: You couldn't.
2:55:04
SPEAKER_02: I know, because it's like you're trying to argue something with a different argument or perspective.
2:55:08
SPEAKER_02: It's not the same.
2:55:09
SPEAKER_02: It is not the same.
2:55:11
SPEAKER_02: It was illegal too at one point.
2:55:13
SPEAKER_07: But we understand that.
2:55:14
SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna use it.
2:55:18
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying I don't use the Bible.
2:55:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying I don't like you trying to argue a point with a different situation because we're just talking about gay people right now.
2:55:28
SPEAKER_02: It's a different situation.
2:55:30
SPEAKER_02: That's a different situation.
2:55:34
SPEAKER_07: It's a chemical thing in the world.
2:55:35
SPEAKER_02: But that's why I'm telling that.
2:55:36
SPEAKER_02: My point was to him is like, why do he's asking why?
2:55:39
SPEAKER_02: I was asking, like, why is it a logical?
2:55:42
SPEAKER_02: So I was telling him that there is biological evidence as to why it may exist.
2:55:51
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
2:55:51
SPEAKER_07: So they shouldn't exist either, or they should.
2:55:53
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not saying they shouldn't, because there's a lot of things that your brain does that you know is gonna Just like with people that are so.
2:55:59
SPEAKER_07: But I don't think
2:56:00
SPEAKER_02: But I don't think it's I'm saying in gay exactly.
2:56:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't I'm just saying in terms of gay in terms of gay environment Disney Channel was environmental like it's a different li like there's a lot of things that affect how we turn out.
2:56:14
SPEAKER_02: There's biological things in our environment.
2:56:16
SPEAKER_05: So do you think gay do you think gay is mental part?
2:56:18
SPEAKER_05: Yes, it definitely does, I feel.
2:56:20
SPEAKER_02: I think it's a part of educated.
2:56:21
SPEAKER_02: It's more profound biological, environmental, epigenetics.
2:56:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and so there's both.
2:56:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, I understand why you personally don't want that for your children.
2:56:36
SPEAKER_02: I get that.
2:56:37
SPEAKER_02: That's your right to choose that.
2:56:38
SPEAKER_02: My whole point is just it's not illogical to me.
2:56:40
SPEAKER_07: That's not my argument.
2:56:41
SPEAKER_02: It's not that it but that's that's the argument.
2:56:45
SPEAKER_17: That was the first question.
2:56:46
SPEAKER_17: The first question was is it illogical and we said no?
2:56:49
SPEAKER_17: Because obviously there's some things in the brain that can lead someone being a psychopath.
2:56:52
SPEAKER_17: Yes.
2:56:53
SPEAKER_17: So not everything, not everything is.
2:56:59
SPEAKER_02: What is low people, gay people aren't fucking minors.
2:57:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but a minor I'm fucking minors.
2:57:07
SPEAKER_02: Listen, we're not saying everybody is innocent.
2:57:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying every gay person, but I'm saying in the majority, that's not their goal to fuck a minor.
2:57:13
SPEAKER_02: But a minor in no.
2:57:13
SPEAKER_07: In pedophilia, it is.
2:57:14
SPEAKER_07: But a minor in New York isn't a minor in Cali and a minor in New York.
2:57:19
SPEAKER_07: It's not the same.
2:57:20
SPEAKER_07: I mean, in uh China.
2:57:23
SPEAKER_02: I listen, if that's the law of that part of the country, then you gotta just follow the law.
2:57:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so if it's okay, if it's okay on a personal level, if it's okay in that aspect, you can do it there, but not in this.
2:57:36
SPEAKER_07: On a personal level, are you okay with a man leaving from the United States going to China because he's attracted to 14-year-olds?
2:57:43
SPEAKER_07: Because that's where it's legal.
2:57:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because over here you don't like it, but it goes over there.
2:57:47
SPEAKER_12: If he goes back to BR and he personally fucks with the girls in BR.
2:57:49
SPEAKER_02: This is what I'm saying.
2:57:50
SPEAKER_02: Personally, I am not I am not okay with any sexual activity happening to minors.
2:57:55
SPEAKER_02: Why?
2:57:56
SPEAKER_07: With minors, because of your ethics.
2:57:58
SPEAKER_02: Because of my ethics.
2:57:59
SPEAKER_02: Because of my ethics.
2:58:01
SPEAKER_02: And because of my ethics, I don't think there's anything ethically wrong with gay people either.
2:58:06
SPEAKER_06: But do the ethics come from the law?
2:58:11
SPEAKER_06: But do the ethics come from the law?
2:58:13
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:58:13
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so people It does not come from the law because slavery was legal.
2:58:16
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so peep gain.
2:58:17
SPEAKER_02: That's not ethically.
2:58:18
SPEAKER_02: So that's not ethical.
2:58:18
SPEAKER_12: So peep game, because we have Ethically right?
2:58:21
SPEAKER_12: So Dominicano.
2:58:23
SPEAKER_12: See?
2:58:24
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:58:25
SPEAKER_12: See, we have four.
2:58:25
SPEAKER_12: So definitely not the law.
2:58:27
SPEAKER_12: We have four women, we have four women of Dominican descent in the room here.
2:58:34
SPEAKER_12: NDR.
2:58:35
SPEAKER_12: How old how old traditionally do little girls start having sex and becoming wives?
2:58:42
SPEAKER_14: I had an aunt that was married at 15 years old, and I think I have had probably aunts that were married younger than that too.
2:58:48
SPEAKER_14: They went to and with an older man too.
2:58:51
SPEAKER_14: The guy went up to her father and was like, is this okay?
2:58:54
SPEAKER_14: And the father was okay.
2:58:55
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so yeah, so okay, okay, so yes.
2:58:57
SPEAKER_14: Yes.
2:58:58
SPEAKER_12: Second.
2:58:58
SPEAKER_12: Do you know or have you heard of?
2:59:01
SPEAKER_02: Not really, because I don't think my family really participated in that.
2:59:10
SPEAKER_12: Younger girls, or no, you okay.
2:59:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
2:59:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
2:59:14
SPEAKER_02: In our family, no.
2:59:16
SPEAKER_02: In our family, 100% yes.
2:59:17
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:59:18
SPEAKER_12: So what makes what makes it any different?
2:59:23
SPEAKER_12: What makes it any different?
2:59:25
SPEAKER_12: Is it the culture or your eth or your morals?
2:59:28
SPEAKER_02: So are you guys okay with these men being married?
2:59:32
SPEAKER_02: But it just happens.
2:59:33
SPEAKER_02: Like I can know each cult that we know of.
2:59:35
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:59:35
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, exactly.
2:59:37
SPEAKER_13: But are they okay and familiar with the situation?
2:59:40
SPEAKER_13: Now I just think it plays in role that a pedophile is laid out.
2:59:44
SPEAKER_12: I want to go back.
2:59:45
SPEAKER_12: I want to because I'm not done.
2:59:46
SPEAKER_13: Okay, go ahead.
2:59:47
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
2:59:48
SPEAKER_12: So you know of situations personally.
2:59:52
SPEAKER_12: You have family personally, you.
2:59:56
SPEAKER_12: What makes it any different that it's happening over there versus if it was happening over here?
3:00:03
SPEAKER_12: Because I feel only in America do people impart their values on others to say that's wrong.
3:00:11
SPEAKER_12: When culturally, everywhere else, including America, I'm I'm pretty sure, like in the right, right, that young girls who because that's how young girls up north who got pregnant, they went down south, and that's the same thing.
3:00:24
SPEAKER_12: So some you're a woman when you meant straight.
3:00:26
SPEAKER_12: You're a woman when you meant straight a lot of the time.
3:00:28
SPEAKER_12: But what I'm saying is it's the moral standards that people put on people on everyone here in America, just because it's here in America.
3:00:38
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
3:00:39
SPEAKER_12: But this is the way that it's been uh in h hundreds of other cultures and uh other countries for ever.
3:00:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's okay.
3:00:48
SPEAKER_02: That's the whole point.
3:00:49
SPEAKER_02: I that doesn't mean it's okay.
3:00:51
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
3:00:52
SPEAKER_12: Exactly because how how how long have women been deemed But do you Okay, so if you inferior to that's what you if that's what you're doing, it's not a good thing.
3:01:01
SPEAKER_02: Just because it's been happening a lot of for a long time everywhere, it doesn't mean it's right.
3:01:05
SPEAKER_12: No, but I'm asking.
3:01:06
SPEAKER_02: So ethically I don't think so.
3:01:07
SPEAKER_12: But I'm asking, if that's the culture and that's just the way that it's been and that's the way that it continues to go.
3:01:13
SPEAKER_12: Doesn't mean it's right.
3:01:14
SPEAKER_12: If other countries such as America impart these laws or whatever, or you're uh make these laws, create these laws for things such as satutory rape and things of that nature.
3:01:26
SPEAKER_02: They can't be in America.
3:01:27
SPEAKER_02: That's the that's my only thing.
3:01:28
SPEAKER_02: Like if you are if you are a pedophile, like you can't have to go to somewhere where that type of activity is legal.
3:01:36
SPEAKER_12: I'm not necessarily talking about the pedophile, I'm talking about the moral code.
3:01:40
SPEAKER_12: What makes it any different that it happens in the case?
3:01:43
SPEAKER_02: To me, it doesn't make it different.
3:01:45
SPEAKER_02: To me, I still don't think it's okay no matter where it happens.
3:01:48
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
3:01:48
SPEAKER_02: No matter where it happens, I don't think it's okay.
3:01:50
SPEAKER_12: Oh, we could just that that that's just my question.
3:01:56
SPEAKER_12: Like it goes that stuff goes on and it's existed forever.
3:02:00
SPEAKER_12: So why why is it any different that it happens here?
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unknown: Yeah, I don't see.
3:02:03
SPEAKER_07: Maybe there's something that determines.
3:02:04
SPEAKER_07: There's really no difference, though.
3:02:05
SPEAKER_07: Do you guys remember Kylie Jenner and Tiger's relationship?
3:02:08
SPEAKER_07: How they had to go to a different state.
3:02:10
SPEAKER_07: Or in the love and game in the game, but that's because it was public.
3:02:14
SPEAKER_07: No, it's because of law.
3:02:15
SPEAKER_07: Because of the law.
3:02:16
SPEAKER_07: If they was in China or all these other countries, they would have been okay.
3:02:20
SPEAKER_07: And I told you I I mentioned that because where do we draw the line between ethics and our moral capabilities and the law?
3:02:26
unknown: Yeah.
3:02:26
SPEAKER_07: Because if gay is always a line, it's not always the same thing.
3:02:30
SPEAKER_07: Like in a country like Saudi Arabia, gay people are not allowed.
3:02:33
SPEAKER_07: Women are not allowed to drive.
3:02:34
SPEAKER_07: No, they just got allowed to drive, and they had to drive with the company of a man.
3:02:39
SPEAKER_07: A woman walking down the street has to have the company of a man.
3:02:42
SPEAKER_07: Dressed up, not even full.
3:02:44
SPEAKER_07: There's no Trinidads in Saudi Arabia.
3:02:46
SPEAKER_06: Trinidad before before what?
3:02:47
SPEAKER_06: When you sent me that article, they wasn't allowing gays and all that shit in the creative.
3:02:52
SPEAKER_07: And now they got a gay parade.
3:02:53
SPEAKER_07: And my thing is, if if we gotta decide how far we allow, I don't have a problem with gay people.
3:02:58
SPEAKER_07: I don't have a problem with crackheads.
3:03:00
SPEAKER_07: I don't have a problem with heroin addicts.
3:03:01
SPEAKER_07: I just would not be holding them together.
3:03:03
SPEAKER_07: I have to, because it's a lifestyle.
3:03:05
SPEAKER_07: It's a lifestyle.
3:03:06
SPEAKER_07: It's a lifestyle.
3:03:07
SPEAKER_07: I have to associate these things.
3:03:09
SPEAKER_07: And now the pedophiles, which who I'm also against, they are they are associating themselves to the other side.
3:03:14
SPEAKER_07: They're associating other negative lifestyles to a homosexual.
3:03:18
SPEAKER_07: What's negative about being a crackhead?
3:03:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, one, it's harmful to your body.
3:03:22
SPEAKER_02: So that's why.
3:03:23
SPEAKER_02: If you're a high-functioning crackhead, go for it.
3:03:25
SPEAKER_17: If you're not killing, if a doctor like Michael Jackson is administering your crack and you're not dying and you're not harming your body or your organs, I say go for it.
3:03:34
SPEAKER_02: Because drugs are only illegal because of certain laws.
3:03:36
SPEAKER_02: But if you're not harming your body, if it's not harmful, I don't think it's negative.
3:03:40
SPEAKER_05: But then how would pedophilia be any different from gay if you just told me that gay is a biological effect on your body and drop the mic to the other thing?
3:03:48
SPEAKER_05: They have bi they have There's a biological reason for why you are attracted to the things you're attracted to.
3:03:53
SPEAKER_05: It's what you're doing.
3:03:53
SPEAKER_05: But then how can pedophilia be bad then?
3:03:56
SPEAKER_02: What?
3:03:56
SPEAKER_05: How can pedophilia be bad?
3:03:57
SPEAKER_02: Because listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
3:04:01
SPEAKER_07: They're throwing their morals in there, and that's okay because I throw my morals in there too.
3:04:04
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
3:04:04
SPEAKER_02: It's obviously it's your opinion.
3:04:06
SPEAKER_02: It's your opinion, right?
3:04:07
SPEAKER_02: But not everything in terms of who you love.
3:04:10
SPEAKER_02: Gay people aren't harming people in terms of who they are loving.
3:04:13
SPEAKER_07: They love thirsty.
3:04:14
SPEAKER_07: Right?
3:04:14
SPEAKER_02: In terms of no no no no.
3:04:15
SPEAKER_02: You're talking about pedophilia right now.
3:04:17
SPEAKER_02: So don't, don't, no, it's not the exactly, exactly.
3:04:19
SPEAKER_02: You throw a love.
3:04:21
SPEAKER_02: It is not the same thing.
3:04:22
SPEAKER_02: Because people say a gay person can be a pedophile.
3:04:27
SPEAKER_02: I understand that that's what your point is.
3:04:30
SPEAKER_07: That's not my point.
3:04:30
SPEAKER_07: So then why are you saying a gay person who loves another gay person because a 25-year-old man loves a 13-year-old girl?
3:04:36
SPEAKER_07: A 13-year-old girl loves a 25-year-old man.
3:04:38
SPEAKER_07: Why do you decide which one is right and wrong?
3:04:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
3:04:41
SPEAKER_16: Because of the age.
3:04:42
SPEAKER_07: But that's because of the age.
3:04:45
SPEAKER_07: Because of the age.
3:04:46
SPEAKER_07: And that's my point.
3:04:47
SPEAKER_07: Because of the age.
3:04:49
SPEAKER_07: Because of the age.
3:04:50
SPEAKER_07: Because I have an opinion.
3:04:51
SPEAKER_02: I am not looking down on you.
3:04:53
SPEAKER_02: That's my whole point.
3:04:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking down exactly.
3:04:56
SPEAKER_02: My whole point is that I respect your opinion and exactly why.
3:05:01
SPEAKER_02: Because that's per that's your personal right that exactly.
3:05:03
SPEAKER_02: I respect you.
3:05:05
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
3:05:06
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
3:05:07
SPEAKER_02: My brother with TC.
3:05:09
SPEAKER_02: My beef with TC saying that was illogical.
3:05:12
SPEAKER_02: I understood.
3:05:13
SPEAKER_02: And you explained.
3:05:14
SPEAKER_02: You explained why you do not want that for your children.
3:05:17
SPEAKER_02: I didn't understand.
3:05:17
SPEAKER_12: Can I just say that I had absolutely no emotional?
3:05:23
SPEAKER_17: My whole point was the whole illogical aspect.
3:05:25
SPEAKER_17: Okay.
3:05:26
SPEAKER_17: We respectfully disagree.
3:05:27
SPEAKER_17: You got it.
3:05:28
SPEAKER_17: And I don't, yeah, I don't think of you any lesson.
3:05:31
SPEAKER_17: Because I understand.
3:05:32
SPEAKER_17: I understand.
3:05:33
SPEAKER_05: Okay, with that being said.
3:05:35
SPEAKER_05: With that being said, I lost two fights today.
3:05:37
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, you took two L's today.
3:05:39
SPEAKER_12: Are we gonna turn it to uh Zap to uh close us out?
3:05:42
SPEAKER_07: Take us out.
3:05:44
SPEAKER_07: I think that's Zap's only job.
3:05:45
SPEAKER_07: It's a podcast.
3:05:48
SPEAKER_07: So let's get it, Zap.
3:05:49
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3:05:50
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3:06:02
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3:06:05
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