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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people?
- 0:02Today we're talking about escaping a relationship with a
- 0:06narcissist. If you're new here, my name is
- 0:08Lee Hammock. I'm a clinically diagnosed
- 0:10narcissist. And welcome to another episode
- 0:12of The Narcissist Code. So welcome back.
- 0:31Welcome back. Welcome back.
- 0:34This is a hot topic. Not hot because it's like, no,
- 0:39you know what I mean? Not like, because it's popular,
- 0:41but like, hot because it, well, it could be popular, but it's
- 0:43also hot because it's risky. That's why.
- 0:48That's why I use the word escape.
- 0:50I didn't just say leaving a relationship with a narcissist,
- 0:53which is what some people have the ability to do.
- 0:57Everybody can't just leave a narcissistic relationship,
- 1:00right? Some people have to escape
- 1:03because the way I describe a toxic relationship with a lot of
- 1:07narcissists and toxic people and dangerous people is like, you're
- 1:11in a prison, like you are a prisoner, right?
- 1:15You've been locked up in this narcissistic prison for X amount
- 1:19of years, X amount of time that you've been together in a
- 1:23relationship with this person, right?
- 1:25Like it could be a short period of time.
- 1:27It doesn't take very long for especially the really dangerous
- 1:30narcissistic people. It doesn't take very long for
- 1:32them to become obsessed and think that they you belong to
- 1:35them, right? So the time period is can
- 1:38sometimes be insignificant, but sometimes it can be very, very
- 1:41significant. Like, like I said, you don't
- 1:43have to be in a relationship with them for a long period of
- 1:45time for them to become attached to you, obsessed with you and
- 1:48think that you belong to them where escaping makes sense.
- 1:52Like leaving a relationship with a narcissist you like, OK, you
- 1:55can go like with some narcissist, could you?
- 1:58If you decide to leave them, could you just go up to them and
- 2:01tell them, hey, look, this isn't working and I've decided that
- 2:07it's best for me to make this move over here.
- 2:11It's best for me to leave this relationship.
- 2:13It's best for me to. It is best for my growth and my
- 2:17healing. And my journey is best for me to
- 2:19go this way. You know, Could you do that with
- 2:21some narcissists? Yeah.
- 2:23But the ones that you have to escape are the dangerous,
- 2:25obsessive ones. You have to make a plan in
- 2:28telling them might not be the best course of action.
- 2:32You see, because some narcissists are they are
- 2:36dangerous. Some of them will escalate when
- 2:39you tell them that you're leaving.
- 2:41They're so they're y'all it's going.
- 2:43This is going to suck to say. But there are people laying in
- 2:47the cemetery right now, laying at rest right now that are in
- 2:50heaven right now that told their narcissistic person that they
- 2:54were going to leave them. They told all you did was tell
- 2:57them that you wanted a divorce or that you wanted to end the
- 2:59relationship. And now they're in heaven.
- 3:01Looking down on, looking down. Maybe channelling.
- 3:04Maybe channelling this message to you.
- 3:07Maybe putting this message on your for you page.
- 3:09Maybe putting this message on your YouTube, or your TikTok or
- 3:12your Twitter. Wherever you see this at, on
- 3:13your Facebook, wherever you see this at.
- 3:15Right. Maybe they sent this.
- 3:17Maybe they channelled this message to you because you never
- 3:20searched for narcissists before. Have you?
- 3:21You never searched for abusive, toxic relationships before, have
- 3:23you? But it's somehow, someway this
- 3:25black guy with dreads ended up on your page talking about
- 3:28escaping a toxic relationship, right?
- 3:31There are people laying in the cemetery right now that
- 3:32shouldn't be but they. But they.
- 3:34But they are. Because they.
- 3:36The only error that they made was telling somebody that they
- 3:38wanted to leave. You see what I'm saying?
- 3:42Sometimes you have to make a plan.
- 3:44Telling the person that you're going to leave them isn't always
- 3:47part of that plan. You see, I'm just telling you
- 3:50because some people react negatively.
- 3:52Like y'all I'm telling you for what do you call it?
- 3:58It's family annihilators is the term that you hear a lot of
- 4:02people are referring to. They call them family
- 4:03Annihilators because they don't just take you out there.
- 4:05If you have kids and you tell them that you're going to leave,
- 4:08they annihilate the kids too. They annihilate you.
- 4:11They annihilate the kids and then they then they annihilate
- 4:13themselves or they have somebody else do it.
- 4:15They hire a hit person to come out here and annihilate you.
- 4:19Because all you because all you wanted to do is leave.
- 4:21So if you escaping you feel like the word escape fits better than
- 4:25leaving, then you don't have to tell that person that you're
- 4:28going to leave them. You know, sometimes it's best to
- 4:31make a plan however long that plan takes.
- 4:34I've talked to people. There's people that I consider
- 4:36myself consider friends with me right now that it's taking them,
- 4:39It took them 18 months to make a plan to leave their
- 4:42relationship. You know, they stayed with a
- 4:44person that they probably hated for 18 months in order to be
- 4:49able to leave safely. When they left safely for that
- 4:51narcissistic person, went to work that day, they came home
- 4:54and they were gone. There were divorce papers
- 4:57sitting there and they didn't know where they were at.
- 4:59Change the address, change the phone number, commit.
- 5:01Talk to me through my lawyer. But they didn't have kids.
- 5:04So I know it's different when you have kids because kids are,
- 5:06you know, in the middle. But that's why I'm saying right
- 5:09now, if you are making a plan to leave this person, be careful of
- 5:13course, and don't You don't have to tell everybody your plan.
- 5:16Only tell people that you feel like you can trust with your
- 5:20life. Don't tell the person at the
- 5:23bar. Don't tell your doctor if y'all
- 5:25see the same doctor. Don't tell a friend of a friend.
- 5:28Don't tell the coach of your son's team.
- 5:30Don't tell the coach of your daughter's cheerleading team,
- 5:33your son cheerleading, whoever, whatever.
- 5:35Don't tell them you. Don't Don't tell people that you
- 5:38wouldn't trust with your life. Talk like you Make a list of
- 5:41people that you trust that like, like a list of people that OK,
- 5:46if I tell this to this people, if I tell this to this person, I
- 5:48trust them with my life because that's what that's what you're
- 5:50doing sometimes. Because if you tell the wrong
- 5:53person, the wrong person alerts your toxic narcissistic partner
- 5:58and then they can put you, put you in danger and then it can
- 6:00cost you your life. That could cost you your life,
- 6:05cost your kids their lives. So if you don't have to tell
- 6:07people, unless you need help and you have to be able to trust
- 6:10those people with your life, be, albeit maybe your parents, that
- 6:15you can tell your parents. I talked to a woman very
- 6:17recently. She's in her 60s and the the
- 6:19person who helped her leave was her 8990 year old mom, she said.
- 6:26She said Lee, I took off walking.
- 6:29I was like I it got dangerous, it got abusive.
- 6:31I I just left the house. I didn't take the keys.
- 6:34I didn't take anything. The only thing I took was my
- 6:35cell phone and I guess who I called.
- 6:37I was like the police. She said no, I called my mom.
- 6:39I was like, you've been married for 40 years.
- 6:44My mom was in her 80s. I think she said 90s.
- 6:46It might it might be 89 or 93. It's one of those.
- 6:48Those numbers are popping in my head.
- 6:50But she said her mom grabbed her purse, hopped in the whip and
- 6:53came and got her. I was like, that touched my
- 6:55heart. Y'all.
- 6:56I was just like, wow, Mama Bear in her 80s and 90s still come to
- 7:00get her little girl. You see what I'm saying?
- 7:03Sometimes this only person you can, only people you can trust
- 7:05is your parents. But sometimes it gets to that
- 7:07point. But you can't even trust your
- 7:08parents because the parents like your partner, like your ex.
- 7:12And they'll tell, hey, look, you need to get things together
- 7:14because my my son is about to leave you or my daughter's about
- 7:17to leave you and they just and they just they just
- 7:19inadvertently put you in danger. You see.
- 7:23Find people that you can trust. Make a plan, y'all, make a plan.
- 7:27And y'all. I feel like if you have to
- 7:31escape, make a plan. And also make sure that you're
- 7:36ready to go for good. Make sure that there's a plan in
- 7:40order for money, housing, whatever.
- 7:43But also make sure there's a plan in order for your heart and
- 7:45your emotions. Because make.
- 7:48Because if the if you go back after you, after you, if you
- 7:51have to escape them, right, you don't tell them.
- 7:53You don't tell them that you're going to leave and you feel like
- 7:56you have to escape them. And you do escape and somehow
- 7:59you go back. You in the back of that
- 8:00relationship or in back in the back of that house with them,
- 8:03they're not going to trust you again to not just leave.
- 8:06They're going. If they've been controlling
- 8:07before, they're going to become even more controlling right now.
- 8:12They're going to become even more controlled.
- 8:14They're going to have eyes on you at all times.
- 8:16You might have cameras around the house.
- 8:18You might have to turn your location on at all times.
- 8:21Life 360, you're on your phone right now.
- 8:24I said this is one of my lives. But they become so obsessive.
- 8:27They might have you. They might have you swallow a
- 8:28damn air tag. You know what I mean?
- 8:30They might try to put put one of.
- 8:32They might try to. They might try to put one of
- 8:35these right here. They might try to slip you one
- 8:37of these in your in your in your favorite meal.
- 8:40Hey, here's a here's a piece of pizza.
- 8:43Just swallow the whole. Don't chew it.
- 8:45And there's a whole time with the damn air tag.
- 8:47Because they. I know that's stupid, but they
- 8:49want to know where you are at all times.
- 8:51And you'll be like, you'll be driving around and like, you
- 8:53know how your phone is. Like there's an air tag
- 8:55traveling around with you, an unknown air tag with you right
- 8:58now. That's because they got an air
- 9:01tag in your car. You see what I'm saying?
- 9:03That's how it works a lot of the times.
- 9:05So you have to be able to protect yourself in these spaces
- 9:08because if you don't protect yourself, you're going to end up
- 9:11inevitably going back to this toxicity and you're going to end
- 9:14up getting hurt. You know, you end up getting
- 9:16drug around and hurt and manipulated and they're like
- 9:19it's going to be painful for you in this space right here.
- 9:22So make sure when you're making this plan to leave, make sure
- 9:24that you are ready to leave. Make sure that this is final.
- 9:27Make sure you have more already mourned the loss of this
- 9:30relationship. You know, if you have kids, make
- 9:34sure that you already have an idea of a parenting plan.
- 9:37Sometimes you just have to escape.
- 9:39Sometimes you have to pack yourself up and go like you're
- 9:41not ready to leave. You feel like it's gotten
- 9:43dangerous. Sometimes you have to pack up
- 9:44and go, but you might have to stay in contact with with this
- 9:47person because you have children.
- 9:48And they will. Absolutely.
- 9:49A lot of them will absolutely use the children as leverage,
- 9:52albeit to keep the kids around or they just threatening to
- 9:55discard the kids and be done with the kids for all.
- 9:57Oh, for good. You know, if you are, if they
- 10:01are in control of all the finances of or the financial
- 10:04provider, they'll threaten to do not provide for you, you know,
- 10:07So think about that. Y'all.
- 10:08When you think about plans, when you're making a plan, think
- 10:12about the money, think about the time, think about the location
- 10:15where you're going to live. Think about the communication,
- 10:17how you going to communicate. Think about all of this stuff.
- 10:19And also have backup plans in order as well.
- 10:22Be prepared to pivot. You know, as I said, be PP.
- 10:26Be prepared to pivot because things happen.
- 10:29If you're going to leave while they're at work and they just
- 10:31happen to come home and come home while you're moving, they
- 10:33might snap. Be prepared to pivot.
- 10:37Have a backup plan. Have people there that you can
- 10:39trust. You know what I mean?
- 10:40If there's there's weapons in the house, make sure the weapons
- 10:43are not with that person. Make sure the weapons are hidden
- 10:45or put away or somewhere that they can't get to them easily,
- 10:48they can't easily access unless they carry it with him at all
- 10:50times. You see, you have to be prepared
- 10:53to pivot because it can get dangerous.
- 10:54I know this episode is scary and kind of dark.
- 10:57You know, aside from the swallowing the air pod, I mean
- 10:59air air tag part, it can be dangerous.
- 11:03Y'all, that's what you said. You have to be ready to when you
- 11:06are ready to go. When you are ready to leave make
- 11:08a plan. And but I said already be
- 11:10mourning the loss of it because if you get, if you make this
- 11:13escape plan and you don't tell them and you go back, I'm
- 11:15telling you your life will get harder.
- 11:19It might be good at first. It might be they're changing
- 11:21their behaviors at first because they don't want to lose you, but
- 11:24then they switch back up on you because you did leave, because
- 11:27they did lose you. So now they're switching it back
- 11:29up on you because they're angry at you, because now they feel
- 11:31like you escaped them. And I feel like they can't trust
- 11:34you to be by yourself anymore. They can't trust you to just,
- 11:37you know, live your life the way you live in it right now.
- 11:39They feel like they can't trust you.
- 11:41So there's a lot of space and a lot of, there's a lot of, like
- 11:45there's a big gap right there. So you have to be prepared to
- 11:48pivot these sites that you have to be safe.
- 11:51You gotta make a plan. Think about the money, think
- 11:53about the time, the location you're going to, the
- 11:55communication and things like that.
- 11:58A parenting plan. Because they are being truthful
- 12:00from the perspective of a narcissist.
- 12:02If they are not ready for you to go, if this comes as complete
- 12:05shock to them, they can still try to hunt you down and snap.
- 12:08You know, they can still try to do that.
- 12:09But that's why you might have to arm yourself depending on where
- 12:12you are. You have to protect yourself,
- 12:13protect your location and things like that.
- 12:15Because it's not like a lot of narcissist to just give up easy.
- 12:19They'll try to be nice. They'll try to promise therapy.
- 12:22They'll try to change their behaviors for a little while.
- 12:24They'll promise you they'll try to make you feel guilty.
- 12:26You took my kids away. You took my love away.
- 12:28You did this, You did that. They'll do everything to try to
- 12:31make you feel bad. And then if you go back, I was
- 12:32just telling you, it more than likely will get worse for you.
- 12:36Because now they probably won't. Now, if you were in prison
- 12:39before, if you, the way I described it at first as a
- 12:41prison. If you were, if this was a
- 12:43prison at first, now you're in solitary confinement, you know,
- 12:48because solitary confinement, from what I heard it here to
- 12:50describe it as in jail, it's like a jail within a jail, you
- 12:54see. So now you're in solitary
- 12:55confinement. You're not just in regular jail,
- 12:57You're in not, not in general population where you can see
- 13:00other people. Now you're in solitary
- 13:01confinement. Well, it's just you, because
- 13:03they don't trust you not to leave again, you see?
- 13:06And sometimes they don't trust. They get to the point.
- 13:08If you go back, well, they'll be planning on leaving you high and
- 13:11dry. Now they're planning on now
- 13:13they're planning their escape plan, just in case you got to
- 13:15leave again to make your life harder.
- 13:17That happens so much. Y'all.
- 13:19No. I was just saying like you're in
- 13:20a relationship with a tax and narcissistic person.
- 13:22You feel like you have to escape.
- 13:23You can't just leave. You have to be careful and be
- 13:26safe because they will make your life harder.
- 13:28It does get harder. Y'all, it's what I was saying
- 13:29that it just happened, that it sucks, you know?
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