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Bonus Episode: The Motown Machine, Vince Guaraldi, and Podcasting Advice · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for checking out this bonus episode. Before
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  Speaker 1: we get into it, I wanted to fill you in
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  Speaker 1: on some of the great content we've got for you
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  Speaker 1: this week here in the Disgraced Land Feed. We just
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  Speaker 1: released a brand new episode on Sean Diddy Combs, and
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  Speaker 1: New episodes will be coming every Tuesday. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into it, shall we, Hey, discos need a little
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  Speaker 1: more Disgraceland in your life, just to touch to get
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  Speaker 1: you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that
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  Speaker 1: comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we
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  Speaker 1: like to call the after party. This is the show
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  Speaker 1: after the show, the party after the party of the
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  Speaker 1: bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland
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  Speaker 1: to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.
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  Speaker 1: On this episode, we are talking about, among other things,
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  Speaker 1: our new full episode on Sean Diddy Comb's, this week's
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  Speaker 1: rewind episode on the Temptations, and of course your voicemails,
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  Speaker 1: your texts, your dms and more has always a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of rosie. Al Right, disco is, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: it all right.
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  Speaker 2: This week in.
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  Speaker 1: Disgraceland, a brand new episode on Sean Ditty Combs seems
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  Speaker 1: about right right. Hip hop mogul, bad Boys, bad boy, notorious,
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  Speaker 1: BIG's bff, a guy who just lately can't stay out
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  Speaker 1: of the fucking news. You've probably read or heard that
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  Speaker 1: Diddy has been charged with a couple. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know how to describe this. We talked about it in
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  Speaker 1: the episode in the preamble before the episode. There was
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  Speaker 1: some lawsuits that were filed last month, including one from
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  Speaker 1: the artist Cassie, who is Ditty's longtime girlfriend, that was
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  Speaker 1: settled in twenty four hours. Twenty four hours. And then
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  Speaker 1: there were the accusations about a seventeen year old girl
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  Speaker 1: being gang raped in a recording studio, accusations that Diddy
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  Speaker 1: forcefully denied. The followout from all this has been huge.
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  Speaker 1: Eighteen brands have since ended their partnership with Ditty's Empower
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  Speaker 1: Global project. That's an e commerce platform designed to uplift
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  Speaker 1: black owned companies that Diddy is at the forefront of.
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  Speaker 1: And now I just got to say, if you guys
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard it yet, our new episode on Ditty does
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  Speaker 1: not address aside from the very tip top of the show,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't address these allegations. We produced this episode long before
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  Speaker 1: and finished it long before these allegations came out, and frankly,
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  Speaker 1: the allegations are too fresh, they're too raw, there's too
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  Speaker 1: much unknown for us to really even get into it
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  Speaker 1: in a responsible way. So doesn't mean there's not plenty
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  Speaker 1: to get into in this episode, and in a way,
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  Speaker 1: what we do get into in the episode informs everything
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  Speaker 1: that you're reading about Diddy right now in the news.
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  Speaker 1: What I found most interesting. You know, this episode is
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  Speaker 1: set around the nightclub shooting with Diddy and j Lo
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine, when there was a shooting. Diddy
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  Speaker 1: was accused of a legal possession of a gun and
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  Speaker 1: bribery at this nightclub. The shooting happens, Diddy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: gets out of the club, hops into the Lincoln Navigator
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  Speaker 1: with his bodyguards and Jennifer Lopez and they screw away
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  Speaker 1: into the night and run like something like eleven red
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  Speaker 1: lights or something like that before they stop by the cops.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, he was charged with the legal possession
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  Speaker 1: of a gun. He was charged with robbery. There were
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  Speaker 1: sixty eye witnesses. The woman who was shot in the
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  Speaker 1: face claims that Diddy had the gun. Anyways, he was
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  Speaker 1: acquitted on these charges. Now to how the this violent
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  Speaker 1: history informs what we're talking about in the latest episode
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  Speaker 1: of Disgraceland on Diddy, there's this incident in nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 1: nine where he was acquitted, but then there was a
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  Speaker 1: civil case that came later and he settled with the victims.
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  Speaker 1: There was an incident also that year where did he
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  Speaker 1: got into it with a record executive at I believe
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  Speaker 1: Interscope and a lot has been alleged there was a
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  Speaker 1: beating that happened in the record executive's office that was
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  Speaker 1: settled out of court and rumored to be I've read
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  Speaker 1: anything from half a million dollars that did he paid
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  Speaker 1: to over a million. Again, that's unofficial news that's been reported,
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  Speaker 1: that's out there. I can't say for sure if it's true,
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  Speaker 1: but it looks like there was a second settlement there. Then,
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  Speaker 1: way back in nineteen ninety one, Didty was the promoter
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  Speaker 1: of a charity. I believe it was a chair basketball
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  Speaker 1: game that had a concert attached to it as well,
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  Speaker 1: with some at the time hip hop luminaries. And this
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  Speaker 1: is at City College in Manhattan. There was a stampede.
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  Speaker 1: Three people died, twenty nine people were injured, and there
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  Speaker 1: was a settlement there as well. Okay, so you got
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  Speaker 1: these four settlements, So what does it all say? Where
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  Speaker 1: are we going with this? Did He strongly denies any
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  Speaker 1: wrongdoing in the allegations of recent allegations with the seventeen
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  Speaker 1: year old, but there is a history of misadventure, to
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  Speaker 1: say the least, to put it, put it mildly here
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  Speaker 1: with Sean Combs, and I'm really interested to see where
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  Speaker 1: this is going. I know you are as well, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that the episode that we just produced on
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  Speaker 1: Diddy does a lot in sort of giving us context
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  Speaker 1: to the recent charges. So I hope you check it out.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you dig it. Six one seven nine oh
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  Speaker 1: six six six three eight. Call me, leave me a voicemail,
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  Speaker 1: send me a text, let me know what you think
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  Speaker 1: of the episode, Let me know what you think of Diddy,
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  Speaker 1: let me know if you think he's innocent, let me
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  Speaker 1: know if you think there's anything to these charges. We
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  Speaker 1: can discuss it, okay. One of the items from this
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  Speaker 1: episode that we do get into that I find particularly interesting,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you guys will as well, is the
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  Speaker 1: issue of Ditty and Sting. And I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: burn it here. I want you to go back and
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  Speaker 1: listen to the episode if you haven't already. It concerns
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  Speaker 1: the amount of money that Diddy has to pay Sting
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  Speaker 1: every day in perpetuity for the rest of their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently or forever. I don't even know, beyond their lives,
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  Speaker 1: beyond the grave. For Diddy's legal use, excuse me, unsanctioned use,
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  Speaker 1: unlicensed use of a sting song, a police song, that's
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  Speaker 1: sting row. It's a staggering amount of money daily. So
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  Speaker 1: just check that out and hit me back and let
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  Speaker 1: me know what you think. All right, So that's Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: That's there now, tomorrow in your feeds or next up
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  Speaker 1: in your feeds, depending on when you're listening to this
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  Speaker 1: bonus episode, We're gonna have a rewind release an episode
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  Speaker 1: from our archive, a previously exclusive episode, an episode that
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  Speaker 1: most of you have not heard on the great motown
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  Speaker 1: group The Temptations, UH, one of the greatest groups to
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  Speaker 1: come out of the motown machine. A lot going on
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  Speaker 1: in this episode. What really happened to Marvin Gay's great
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  Speaker 1: duet partner Tammy Terrell, The suspicious death of Paul Williams,
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  Speaker 1: David Ruffin's twenty year battle of cocaine. Make sure you
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  Speaker 1: check that out as well, all right? Six one seven
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  Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. I'm here if
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  Speaker 1: you want to share with me your favorite motown artists.
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  Speaker 1: Is it the Jackson five, The Jackson's excuse me, wait, no, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Jackson five, and then the Jackson's, Uh no Jackson's were
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  Speaker 1: ABC Jackson five? Or Motown? Is it Marvin Gay? Is
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  Speaker 1: the Supremes? This is the Temptations? Is it Smokey? Who
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  Speaker 1: is it? The list is endless? Six one seven, nine
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  Speaker 1: We seem to have made nice with the algorithm, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: larger than life personalities. But that's too broad. Specifically, what
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  Speaker 1: Blondie being abducted by Ted Bundy, how Michael Hutchins actually died,
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  Speaker 1: the Jane's Addictions. I did this little Jan's Addiction video
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  Speaker 1: in like a week it's had three hundred thousand views,
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  Speaker 1: if you're new to this show, thank you, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being here. But again, this is all telling me
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  Speaker 1: that what you guys want, you know, what you like
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  Speaker 1: most about the actual podcast stories, and if I can
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  Speaker 1: learning moments. Oh my god, I did not know that.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know that about Blondie and Ted Bondie.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know that about how Michael Hutchins actually died.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know that about Dave Navarro from Jane's Addiction.
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  Speaker 1: And they're all kind of dark stories. And the other
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  Speaker 1: the parts of the episodes where I like to sort
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  Speaker 1: of lean into the heart side of it and what
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  Speaker 1: I related to most to these subjects, how I related
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  Speaker 1: I want to know what you guys want from us,
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: The shock? Is it? The horror? Is it the tributes?
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really struggling. Not with the technology either. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: I'm very able. I just dislike my own voice and writing.
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  Speaker 1: a quick break back in the flash, some voicemails and
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  Speaker 1: Let's do some voicemails. Let's get right into it with
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  Speaker 1: this one from the three to one oer.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Jay, this is Eric three one zero. I left
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  Speaker 3: you a prior message I think it was a couple
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  Speaker 3: of months ago about meeting Prince. This is about a
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  Speaker 3: real disgraceful situation. I don't know about the if you're
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  Speaker 3: familiar with the story of the Coasters, but two of
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  Speaker 3: the members of the Coasters were assassinated. One was shot
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  Speaker 3: in the head and the other one was assault with
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  Speaker 3: a gun. A gay man who was murdered lead singer
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  Speaker 3: of the Coasters, up of the band in the fifties
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  Speaker 3: of two victims of violence, separate incidences worth looking at
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  Speaker 3: this to the tip.
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  Speaker 1: Hey Eric, thanks for the voicemail.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know this about the Coasters, and it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a really messed up situation and got two
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  Speaker 1: two band members group members shot. That's just fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So I think we are going to get into that.
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  Speaker 1: I am deep in at the moment, however, into researching
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Bourdain. Not a music subject, not a bad Lands subject,
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  Speaker 1: just a iconic name out in the world, subject whom
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  Speaker 1: I love that I want to cover in future. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing that. I'm deep into it right now. Eric,
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  Speaker 1: I hope you dig it, whether you're a Boardain fan
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  Speaker 1: or not. Maybe we'll get into this coasters thing sooner
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  Speaker 1: or later. I bet we will. We're always in need
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  Speaker 1: of material. And yeah, guys, we talked about combining the
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  Speaker 1: feeds a couple of weeks ago or last episode. I
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: guess it's been an ongoing conversation. I haven't I haven't
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: made a firm decision yet, but like I said, I'm
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: researching this board Ain episode, and I don't think it's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: going to be in bad Lands. I think it's gonna
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: be our own thing. And I've got a Hunter S
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Thompson hankering and William S Burrow's hankering as well. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: it feels like it feels like Disgraceland is going to
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: expand slightly beyond just specific music stories into stories that
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: are just dark stories about icons really like we've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: But I think if we do do this, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to keep it very musical. Anthony Bourdin, you know, even
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  Speaker 1: though he was a chef and you know, had a
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  Speaker 1: travel television show, was a writer, wrote books, very rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll type of guy. Same with Burrows, same with
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Hunter S. Thompson, you know. And even when I think
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  Speaker 1: of large, larger than life figures like who are athletes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like Michael Jordan, It's very easy for me
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to relate what Michael Jordan does and the quote unquote
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: art of what he does to music and to culture.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, were we or slash, you know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: are we to go into that? And in that direction,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that's that's likely the tact we will take with the
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  Speaker 1: non music stories. We will keep them musical, and I'm
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: really just interested in the darkness that drives some of
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: these folks from whatever discipline, and everything will stay music focused.
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  Speaker 1: It will largely be, you know, on average, more music
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  Speaker 1: stories than not. But that's where we're going.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how I got from the coasters to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Anthony Boarding to Michael Jordan. But see, we can do this.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Let's do another voicemail here, all right, this
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  Speaker 1: one from the Netherlands. Let's check out this voicemail right here.
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  Speaker 4: Hey there, greetings from the Netherlands. Big fan of the podcast.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I was actually curious if you should ever do an
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: episode on James Taylor because he had a very interesting career.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of his, has been a big
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: fan most of my life thanks to my father and
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: history of substance use disorder, and has pretty much come
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: out on top to be a pre successful chill guy. Anyways,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: that's all, take care and have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: Yo. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Yeah, I was
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  Speaker 1: actually thinking I was thinking about doing a James Taylor episode.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: The other night I was watching TV. I watched these
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: really awful music video channels on the Samsung cable TV
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: thing or whatever on demand whatever it's called. And I've
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: talked about that before, but James Taylor came on and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it was a vintage seventies live thing and I was like, God,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: there is a story here. I know there's a story.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I know there's the whole thing with the heroin abuse
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and he's a fascinating guy and people love him and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: he's a huge name, so yeah, at some point and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: also doing an episode on him will will give me
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to tell my James Taylor story. Being from Boston,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it's hard not to have a James Taylor story. And
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I don't want to burn it here because it's a
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: good one. But yeah, Zeth, if you're listening, I think
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: we put James Taylor on the schedule for end the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: next year as we're figuring out our programming here, all right,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight, Hit me
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: with your voicemails, hit me with your texts. Let's do
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a couple of texts here. Five oh five rights in Hey,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I drove Parliament Funkadelic around for three days. There were
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: fucking nuts. Keith Richards says nothing on them. George Clinton
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: had his own limo. Damn it. All right? All right?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Are you are you saying we should do a Parliament episode?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I'm here for that for sure. Nine oh one writes
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: in Lee from Memphis. Loved the Jan's Addiction episode. First
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: song I ever heard of theirs was Jane says, maybe
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the best two chord songs ever. Prove me wrong. That's
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. What are the best two chord songs? You
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: can't say Louis Louis, that's three chords. You keep two chords,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and you really really really shortening, shortening the length of
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the pool. As they say, do people say that. I
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: don't think they say that nine on one goes. Honestly,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: you mentioned the Cult. I have to respectfully disagree about
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: their live performance. Love this band and have seen them
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: three times live, and they're still going strong and singing
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  Speaker 1: in the original key, unlike many older bands playing about
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: a half step down. Much love to you, and thanks
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: for being so accessible. I'm still campaigning for Shannon who
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: episode Tragic Shannon Whoon. We will do Blind Melon at
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: some point for sure. Yeah. I don't want to argue
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  Speaker 1: with you about The Cult live because, like I said,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I've only seen them once, and of course talk to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: people who have seen them as well. I know they
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: played recently. I had some friends who saw them in
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and I saw some of the Instagram videos
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that were going around, and it looked fucking incredible. What
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about, however, is just back in the day,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about my experience subjectively, so I hope
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: you're right. I hope they're great live because they're a
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  Speaker 1: great fucking band, and I want them to be great,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and I want them to be out there spreading the love.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Five three zero Rights and Hey Jake Zach from five
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to three to zero. I loved the Jans addiction episode,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: having been in early teen. In the early nineties, Ben
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Caught Stealing was always on MTV. You couldn't miss it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Video is creepy gave me weird vibes a couple ideas
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: for a new episode. Right and Shine a menu recipe
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: inspired shorts in the morning, afternoons or evenings which focus
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: on food. Who doesn't like food example Elvis sandwich, peanut butter,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: bacon and banana.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I can't do a food podcast. I appreciate the creativity,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: but that ain't me. I did do. I did do.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I guested on a podcast about Elvis's million dollars sandwich
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: with the Midland guys. You can find that The Countryman
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Midlands has a podcast. Some great guests, Matthew McConaughey, Sheryl
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Crow and I jumped on It's all about busting these myths,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and I talked about Elvis and the I think it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: called a million dollar sandwich. Six three All rights and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: hey Jake, longtime listener both Disgraceland and bad Lands. My
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: favorite so far has been Jerry le Lewis. Just finished
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the Jane's Addiction episode and the Bonus episode. On a
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: separate note, I would love it if you consider doing
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a sports true crime podcast. Well, and then he goes
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: on to mention Lawrence Taylor, OJ, Michael Irving, Frank Frank
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: from the six to three to oh listen, dude, we
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: fucked with this a little bit with a thing called
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: sports Land, and we had those sports episodes. We have
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: them actually in the bad Lands episode in the bad
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Lands Feed excuse me. We have episodes on as you mentioned,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor and OJ Simpson and a bunch of others,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Pete rose Ty Cobb. We did a whole thing on
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: European soccer, a whole season on European soccer, Oscar Pistorius,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez, and like I said earlier, I think we're
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: going to start messing around with I'm thinking of doing
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a Kobe Bryant episode. More about the well, I really
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. Actually, I need to do more research on it,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: but I have an idea on an angle. So yeah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I think for some of the more iconic sports stars
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: who've have dark stories associated with them, we will be
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: covering that here in the Disgraceland feed. But in the meantime,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: check out bad Land subscribe there, go back the archive
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and you'll find those episodes you're asking for Lawrence Taylor
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and others. All right, all right, this bonus episode is
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: already getting long. I'm going to take a quick break.
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  Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be back in the flash.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Thanks for being with us
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  Speaker 1: here in this bonus episode. Do a little recommendations here.
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing this, you know, trying to recommend music
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and trying to do it. As you know, I get
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: into the booth here, my head just goes all blue
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  Speaker 1: and I forget what I'm listening to, what I've been
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: listening to. So what we've been doing lately is just
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I've been going into my Spotify history for the last
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: week and and just regurgitating here what I've been up to,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: what I've been listening to, as a way to kind
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: of keep track of this. Vince GERALDI you all know
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: him as the musician who did the Charlie Brown Stuff,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and some of you probably know that he had his
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: own trio and he made his own music and it's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: fucking fantastic, and you need to check out the Vince
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  Speaker 1: Geraldi trio. You will go way beyond the Peanuts and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the Charlie brown Stuff and it's a good sort of
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: non Christmas Christmas vibe. Okay. I've been digging on classic
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  Speaker 1: Christmas songs so far, all right, the Bing Crosbies of
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the world, the Ella FitzGeralds of the world. As we
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: get closer to the big Day, I'm gonna seg into
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  Speaker 1: sort of the more alternative stuff coming to mind immediately,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: all the sort of great garage Christmas songs, the nineties,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: sort of weirdo shit like Low all that going to
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: get into it. I am still digging on the New
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Queens of the Stone Age record in Times New Roman.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: The more I listen to it, the more I love it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: If you haven't heard this record in your fan of
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: rock and roll, check that out. Something happened to me
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: last night that musically, I love when this happens. I
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: love when I hear a song. I was just on
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Instagram and this guy Johnny Johnny Vinyl who who's a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: fan of the show. Here dis Gray sand who I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: talk with a bit on Instagram. He just posted this
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: video of himself, sorry, of his record player playing Dark
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Side of the Moon. And it's just, you know, you know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the audio wasn't great, and the video wasn't you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: It's just what I said it was. But the music
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: is so fucking good and the production is so good.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I just found it to be arresting. It just it
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: just smacked me in the face. And I've heard this
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: so many times before, you know, does this happen to
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you guys? It must, it must happen to you where
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you just hear this thing, you've heard a gazillion times.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: You don't even think about it anymore. It's become so
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: rote and it just knocks your socks off. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what Dark Side of the Moon did to me last
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  Speaker 1: night and will probably continue to do for me throughout
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  Speaker 1: the rest.
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  Speaker 3: Of my life.
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  Speaker 1: It's that good of an album. Johnny had some good
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  Speaker 1: stats on it, by the way, It's something like nine
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: hundred weeks on the Billboard, two hundred. It's the number four,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, number four top selling album of all time.
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  Speaker 1: If that's true, that is phenomenal. So needless to say,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't need you, don't need anyone to recommend Pink
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  Speaker 1: Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon to you. But here
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  Speaker 1: I am doing it anyways because it's authentic and it happened,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and there you go. Also, if I can be self promoted,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I am going to for just one moment here, parents, Okay, parents,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: we have this new show that Double Elvis just produced
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: with our partners Stargo Media. It's a kids show. Our
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: friend Nikki Lynette, who if you guys are fans of
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the show about a Girl, she hosts this new kids
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: show we have called music Land Stories. And this is
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: for the parents out there who are music fans who
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  Speaker 1: are looking for content, podcast content for their kids. Trust me,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: this is for you. Go find it. It's available everywhere.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: We got two episodes up now, got more coming. Search
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  Speaker 1: that out you will not be disappointed. Six one, seven,
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  Speaker 1: nine oh six sixty six three eight real Quick. This
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: week tomorrow our rewind episode is on the Temptations. This
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  Speaker 1: was originally released by US on May thirty first, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two, as part of Season nine. We described it
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: then as the following. The Temptations were one of Motown's
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: signature vocal groups, and they remain one of the most
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: successful R and B acts of all time, but fame
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and drugs corrupted them from the beginning. Lineup changes were
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: as frequent as their chart topping hits, and eventually their
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: rocky road led to drug addiction, crippling, paranoia or routine backstabbing,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and one of the most tragic deaths in the history
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: of the Motor City. Timeline wise, we're doing this because
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the Temptations member Eddie Kendricks was born on December seventeenth,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine, and we're releasing this episode on December fourteenth,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: so pretty close. Also, you know, if you need another recommendation,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Eddie Kendrick's nineteen seventy two solo album People Hold On.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: It's fucking awesome, So check that out, all right? Six
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  Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight. Here
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  Speaker 1: are some questions that I would like some answers from
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you guys on frankly, all right, what is your favorite
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Motown group of all time? Okay, speaking of Motown, speaking
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: of great record labels, what's your favorite record label of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: all time? Okay, the label where it didn't matter what
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: they put out, you were buying it. When I was
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: growing up, that was Revelation Records. Uh, it was Discord Records.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: For a moment, it was Victory Records, a label that
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: my band actually ended up on, which was a huge
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: thrill for us. But when we were kids, we just
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: had these record labels that we would buy and it
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: didn't matter. It did not matter what they put out,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: we were going to buy it. Also, do you want
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a Disgrace Line Vinyl? What will we put on the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Disgrace Line record? What would it be? And would you
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: buy it? Would you? I would? I have some ideas.
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  Speaker 1: Six one seven nine six six six three eight. Let
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  Speaker 1: me know what you think, Let me know what your
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: favorite record labels are. Let me know what your favorite
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: motown artist is. Let me know what you would want
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: out of Disgraceland Vinyl. And finally, Christmas Rex give me
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  Speaker 1: the Christmas music that you guys get most pumped on.
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  Speaker 1: Six one seven, nine oh six sixty six three eight.
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  Speaker 1: Favorite artists are your old school classic Bing Crosby, Ella Fitzgerald?
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Do you realm into the new school? What are the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Christmas songs that pull at your heartstring six one seven
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• 32:34
  Speaker 1: We also get some stuff on YouTube. You can search
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• 32:38
  Speaker 1: break back in a flash. All right, welcome back again.
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  Speaker 1: Hit me up on Instagram at Disgrace lamp pop, Instagram
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• 33:05
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  Speaker 1: me an email Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com. Let's recap,
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  Speaker 1: shall we Number one right now in your feed? A
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: brand new episode on Sean Diddy Combs number two coming tomorrow.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: A rewind episode on The Temptations. A previously exclusive episode
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  Speaker 1: that we are finally releasing back into the wild. Number
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: three over in the Badlands Feed. We got a new
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: episode on Benedict Cumberbatch number four next week into the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Disgraceland feed. A brand new Christmas episode that's right, you
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: heard me. A Christmas episode on Mariah Carey Hold on
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  Speaker 1: to Your Hats TRL coming live right at you number
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  Speaker 1: five with our ice cream cart six one seven nine
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  Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. Call me on the
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  Speaker 1: telephone or text me number six. Remember, no one cares
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  Speaker 1: about the music that you love more than you do.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace. So all right, my moment
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of bliss and honor this week's Disgraceland episode on Sean
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  Speaker 1: Diddy Combs. This is me reading you the phone book
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  Speaker 1: from Manhattan in nineteen forty six, some fifty three years
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: before the show Eating at a nightclub put Diddy on
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  Speaker 1: trial for his life. Adams Ruby one three one two
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  Speaker 1: eight Adama Louise three dash four two seven address Clarence
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  Speaker 1: three dash one nine six two Adresa Mervin four dash
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  Speaker 1: six two two five address William five nine dash seven
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  Speaker 1: two zero three A Dama Ellen two dash two seven
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  Speaker 1: seven four zero A Dama Eliza three two two zero
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  Speaker 1: four three Adams Ruby one two Uise three dash for
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  Speaker 1: two stage two address Clarence three dash one sixt. Quit
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  Speaker 1: talking and start mixing.