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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome
- 0:27Speaker 1: to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always for
- 0:31Speaker 1: tuning in. We are recording this on the week leading
- 0:36Speaker 1: to Thanksgiving. It's a it's a pretty wild one, uh
- 0:41Speaker 1: this time around. Things that used to be uh surreal
- 0:45Speaker 1: are now normal. Things that used to be normal are
- 0:47Speaker 1: now you know, downright dangerous in some respects. Just for
- 0:50Speaker 1: an example, Noel super producer Casey Pegram, I actually had
- 0:55Speaker 1: to go buy coffee. I can't mooch the company coffee anymore.
- 1:01Speaker 1: I know what's become of this world. Uh, not to
- 1:05Speaker 1: mention that we're actually broadcast since today from inside the
- 1:08Speaker 1: belly of an inactive volcano. But I'm starting to hear
- 1:11Speaker 1: some rumbling, so I'm a little worried. But it'll all
- 1:15Speaker 1: just it's it's on brand, it's on theme. So if
- 1:17Speaker 1: at some point in the episode you start to hear
- 1:19Speaker 1: some kind of like the rumbling starts to intensify and
- 1:22Speaker 1: then the sound of you know, us being melted by
- 1:25Speaker 1: molten lava, um, just consider it part of the ride.
- 1:29Speaker 1: And if if you guys on the call today, if
- 1:32Speaker 1: you guys see you can see these giant vats of
- 1:35Speaker 1: baking soda and vinegar behind me. If you see them
- 1:38Speaker 1: somehow getting close to each other, just say, Ben, watch
- 1:42Speaker 1: your vinegar. That sounds like an obscure catchphrase for somebody
- 1:46Speaker 1: watch your vinegar. I like it. I like it. I
- 1:48Speaker 1: think it should go in one of the many T
- 1:50Speaker 1: shirts that we keep promising not do we because it's
- 1:53Speaker 1: tough to work in a volcano up, But I like
- 1:56Speaker 1: you point out this one is a fake volcano. Nol Uh.
- 1:59Speaker 1: That's that's how we got around the insurance bit. Uh.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And fake volcanoes for a lot of our listeners in
- 2:05Speaker 1: the US and maybe abroad. Uh. Fake volcanoes make you
- 2:08Speaker 1: think of one thing, right, science projects? Do you guys
- 2:11Speaker 1: ever make one of those? Totally? Are you kidding? That's
- 2:14Speaker 1: the best part of science class. I did it at
- 2:17Speaker 1: home for fun, not even in science class. Yeah, yeah,
- 2:19Speaker 1: I I did it for kicks as well. Well, you know,
- 2:22Speaker 1: my mom's a teacher, So these were sort of I
- 2:25Speaker 1: called them the shut up projects. You know, on a Saturday.
- 2:28Speaker 1: What was the cavity consistent? What of the cavity? Uh?
- 2:31Speaker 1: Was it crafted from some sort of soda bottle or something?
- 2:35Speaker 1: And then you build a volcano around it with clay
- 2:37Speaker 1: or there's probably several different ways to get it done.
- 2:40Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's see it's flower salt,
- 2:46Speaker 1: cooking oil water and then just a little bit of
- 2:49Speaker 1: baking soda, then the vinegar. Uh, you could build it
- 2:52Speaker 1: out of a couple of things, right, It's that that's
- 2:55Speaker 1: the allure. But I think you're right. I think a
- 2:57Speaker 1: two leader soda bottle is probably the go to for
- 3:00Speaker 1: a lot of kids, just because it's round, and it's affordable,
- 3:03Speaker 1: and you gets soda as a side benefit. So there's
- 3:05Speaker 1: a hustle. But today we're not tricking you with the
- 3:09Speaker 1: the opening in the segue, folks, we are talking about
- 3:13Speaker 1: a fake volcano, quite possibly the coolest fake volcano in history.
- 3:18Speaker 1: It blows our stuff just like out the water. This
- 3:22Speaker 1: is a Vesuvius to us, this absolutely should have been
- 3:25Speaker 1: or is the perfect subject matter to feature on like
- 3:28Speaker 1: a Weird Flexes episode. Um, so yeah, let's start from
- 3:31Speaker 1: the top. Uh. You know, we we think of outdoor
- 3:35Speaker 1: recreation areas is you know, I guess the lesser of
- 3:38Speaker 1: them might be a park or a playground, But then
- 3:40Speaker 1: of course they get more and more extra as you
- 3:42Speaker 1: started delving into theme park territories. Right. The idea of
- 3:46Speaker 1: public spaces where people can mingle and have a good time,
- 3:50Speaker 1: UM has has been around for quite a long time. UM.
- 3:54Speaker 1: But the idea of a resort with amusement facilities, like
- 3:58Speaker 1: I said, much more along the lines of a theme
- 4:00Speaker 1: park or water park or something UM, didn't really start
- 4:03Speaker 1: to show up in Europe until the Renaissance. Of course,
- 4:06Speaker 1: it was the Renaissance, That's why I was called the
- 4:08Speaker 1: Renaissance when they had all the like cool new ideas UM.
- 4:11Speaker 1: And in England in particular, they were referred to as
- 4:14Speaker 1: pleasure gardens. And I've actually heard that kind of still used,
- 4:18Speaker 1: like in England at least for theme parks. They call
- 4:21Speaker 1: them like pleasure parks or a pleasure cruise, you know whatever. UM.
- 4:25Speaker 1: And they were massively popular from around fifteen fifty two
- 4:28Speaker 1: round at least in this form UM, you first started
- 4:31Speaker 1: to see these kinds of resorts that were connected with
- 4:35Speaker 1: businesses like inns or taverns. Right, yeah, yeah, exactly. And
- 4:40Speaker 1: it's it's kind of an added benefit, you know, which
- 4:44Speaker 1: in are you gonna go to? Are you gonna go
- 4:46Speaker 1: to the one that's just a bed and a window
- 4:48Speaker 1: and a door. Are you gonna go to the one
- 4:50Speaker 1: that's got some cool stuff you can mess with outside?
- 4:53Speaker 1: The calculus is clear, and these proved enormously beneficial for businesses,
- 4:59Speaker 1: and as they did, they became increasingly elaborate. I was
- 5:03Speaker 1: thinking of, um, the kind of pleasure gardens we have
- 5:07Speaker 1: in the Atlanta area. In our region, we have the
- 5:09Speaker 1: Atlanta Botanical Gardens, which are quite beautiful. They had a
- 5:12Speaker 1: fantastic Alice in Wonderland exhibition earlier. And then we also
- 5:17Speaker 1: have just a few hours away, the legendary Rock City.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Have you guys ever been to Rock City? I've seen it.
- 5:23Speaker 1: It's amazing because that's what they tell you. They say
- 5:25Speaker 1: Sea Rock City on all the signs leading up to Yeah,
- 5:29Speaker 1: what is it like? There's there's gnomes kind of I believe,
- 5:32Speaker 1: aren't the future at Rock City? Yes? And it's in
- 5:35Speaker 1: black light too, that's right. Yeah, And then there's um,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I don't know, it's sort of like an outdoor like
- 5:42Speaker 1: cracker barrel situation. Like t G I fridays with like weird,
- 5:45Speaker 1: kitchy just you know, kookie stuff everywhere exactly, So you
- 5:50Speaker 1: probably have something like a pleasure garden in your neck
- 5:53Speaker 1: of the Global Woods in London in sixteen sixty one,
- 5:58Speaker 1: a huge pleasure guard opens up. It's called Vauxhall Gardens.
- 6:02Speaker 1: It's twelve acres in full. Admission is free, So where
- 6:05Speaker 1: are you going to take your kids? Add to that
- 6:08Speaker 1: there's entertainment, pretty high quality entertainment. An eight year old
- 6:13Speaker 1: Mozart performed there in seventeen sixty four. And so, as
- 6:18Speaker 1: we always notice, money comes into play because a couple
- 6:21Speaker 1: of folks are looking around and they say, what if
- 6:25Speaker 1: admission was free? And they hold it pinky up, you know,
- 6:29Speaker 1: to their mouth, and this is how the story kind
- 6:34Speaker 1: of begins. We see the beginning of an industry, and
- 6:40Speaker 1: the gardens and their attractions begin to be kind of
- 6:44Speaker 1: a cultural expression of this desire for what we could
- 6:48Speaker 1: call vicarious danger or safe danger, because they presented this
- 6:54Speaker 1: kind of natural world that might appear wild and untamed,
- 6:59Speaker 1: but it's the kind of think you can take your
- 7:01Speaker 1: kids to and everyone will be safe and fine. So
- 7:05Speaker 1: they were unthreatening, they were contained environments, and they also
- 7:11Speaker 1: kind of generated categories. There was the beauty of nature,
- 7:14Speaker 1: but then there was another category of like the terror
- 7:18Speaker 1: of nature. That's right, things like you know, tsunami's heavy
- 7:22Speaker 1: storms on the high seas, things romanticized by shipwrecks, and
- 7:28Speaker 1: you know piraty type behavior, uh and acts of of
- 7:31Speaker 1: daring new thunderstorms in the mountains, and of course you
- 7:35Speaker 1: know the the open Maw of Hell that is a
- 7:40Speaker 1: volcano that's just belching fire and liquid rock and black
- 7:45Speaker 1: smoke into the skin to the sky. Um. And it's
- 7:49Speaker 1: something that really got some of the creative types behind these,
- 7:53Speaker 1: you know, the imagineers of their time, I guess um
- 7:56Speaker 1: got them going. And there was a real fascination with
- 8:00Speaker 1: like recreating some of these natural horrifying phenomenon that would
- 8:04Speaker 1: be like a real draw for for you know, thrill
- 8:08Speaker 1: seekers or pleasure seekers. And there were actually there's a
- 8:12Speaker 1: series of essays kind of establishing this concept of picturesque
- 8:16Speaker 1: beauty um that came out in two by a gentleman
- 8:20Speaker 1: named William Gilpen that kind of I love the way
- 8:23Speaker 1: this Bloomsbury collective piece, Bloomsbury being a publisher, if I'm
- 8:27Speaker 1: not mistaken, kind of outline that Guilpen quote taught the
- 8:31Speaker 1: eighteenth century tourists how to gaze and essentially created the concept,
- 8:38Speaker 1: or at least made it more mainstream of esthetics or
- 8:43Speaker 1: of like enjoying something because it looks nice. Um, and
- 8:48Speaker 1: he was even okay with doing that, like in an
- 8:51Speaker 1: artificial way, right, Ben, Yeah, that's right. No, Gilpin would
- 8:56Speaker 1: have been really into Rock City, which we can't say
- 9:00Speaker 1: enough weirdly cryptic good things. You just have to see
- 9:04Speaker 1: it real, You just have to see it, uh, Tangent,
- 9:08Speaker 1: We don't have time to go into it, but a
- 9:10Speaker 1: long time listeners, who remember the time we had my
- 9:12Speaker 1: dad on the show. When we moved to Georgia, he
- 9:16Speaker 1: relocated first, and I was convinced that he had run
- 9:20Speaker 1: away and abandoned our family to live at Rock City
- 9:23Speaker 1: by himself because I thought it was that cool. And
- 9:26Speaker 1: you know what, he let me believe that for like
- 9:29Speaker 1: a year easy. He would tell me he lived in
- 9:32Speaker 1: Rock City and I couldn't come anyhow, what's heartbreak? He
- 9:37Speaker 1: still thinks it's funny, but but yeah, it's a Gilpin's
- 9:42Speaker 1: your point there? No, Um, I love the idea that
- 9:45Speaker 1: people have to be taught how to gaze, and uh,
- 9:50Speaker 1: with this there comes some conventions, Right, how do we
- 9:53Speaker 1: define landscaping? How do we define the picturesque? Uh? He
- 9:57Speaker 1: was all about using us for popular public spectacle or events.
- 10:03Speaker 1: And at the same time, you know, we saw a
- 10:05Speaker 1: lot of gardeners becoming more picturesque using theatrical effects. Shout
- 10:11Speaker 1: out to our earlier episode on garden hermits. Was that
- 10:14Speaker 1: from a weird flex episode or that was a weird
- 10:17Speaker 1: flex episode? Yeah, I think that was yours. I can't remember.
- 10:20Speaker 1: I can't remember. They were all equally weird and FLEXI
- 10:22Speaker 1: but this belongs in those ranks. This this story we're
- 10:25Speaker 1: about to get to. Yes, yes, we're getting to this story.
- 10:28Speaker 1: While all this is happening, people of means are traveling
- 10:31Speaker 1: to England and they're seeing these sites and they're enjoying them,
- 10:36Speaker 1: and they want to bring a piece of that back
- 10:37Speaker 1: home with them. So enter onto the stage, Prince Leopold
- 10:42Speaker 1: the Third Friedrich Franz of on desaw I defer to
- 10:47Speaker 1: you on the German their knowl how Ben, you're only
- 10:50Speaker 1: too kind. I hope that I could even bring a
- 10:52Speaker 1: modicum of of of of what Casey brings to French
- 10:55Speaker 1: with German. Let's see, uh. Leopold the Third Friedrich Franz
- 11:01Speaker 1: on how daw perfect? Thank you? Yes, Casey, actually, can
- 11:05Speaker 1: we get an applause for oh my god, you guys,
- 11:08Speaker 1: you guys. I'd like to I'd like to thank my
- 11:12Speaker 1: my German kindergotten teacher foun noi House. That really was
- 11:16Speaker 1: her name, which means new new house. I remember when
- 11:19Speaker 1: I was, when I was in German kindergarten, I was
- 11:21Speaker 1: going on a trip to America. I may have told
- 11:24Speaker 1: the story before, but she really wanted me to get
- 11:26Speaker 1: to butter finger bars, because you can't get butter of
- 11:30Speaker 1: finger bar at least at the time. Surely that's changed.
- 11:32Speaker 1: You couldn't get butter finger bars in Germany. Was this
- 11:35Speaker 1: East Germany? It was in uh oh, yes, I see
- 11:39Speaker 1: what you're saying. Um and sorry, off the off the
- 11:42Speaker 1: rails really quickly. But Ben, do you know, and I'm
- 11:44Speaker 1: sure you do that, you know, horrible the gummies, the
- 11:46Speaker 1: gummy candies. There's a whole bunch of those that are
- 11:50Speaker 1: only available in like Scandinavia, and they're salty, right, super salty. Yeah. Also,
- 12:00Speaker 1: so uh, Germany, shout out to the real kinder eggs
- 12:04Speaker 1: because the stuff we have in the US is just
- 12:06Speaker 1: not the same. Casey is nodding solemnly. Yeah, I was
- 12:09Speaker 1: just thinking about the whole kinder toy thing. Well, they
- 12:12Speaker 1: were choking hazards, not torrious choking hazards, I think. But
- 12:15Speaker 1: I just bought one the other day and was really
- 12:18Speaker 1: distressed to realize it's shaped like an egg, but it's
- 12:21Speaker 1: actually comes with a spoon and it's like you eat
- 12:23Speaker 1: it and like it's not it's not a chocolate egg
- 12:28Speaker 1: at all. It's like a total bait and switch. Yeah,
- 12:30Speaker 1: we also need to talk about the egregious things Cadbury
- 12:33Speaker 1: has done and the well anyway, first we have to
- 12:35Speaker 1: talk about this volcano. We were promised the volcano. We
- 12:38Speaker 1: need to have it. This is where Freedrick comes in. Uh.
- 12:42Speaker 1: He and his friend and counselor Friedrich Wilhelm von Erdmannsdorff,
- 12:49Speaker 1: went to England. They saw this, They saw the study
- 12:51Speaker 1: of landscape and gardening and picturesque spectacles, and they also
- 12:57Speaker 1: saw ancient buildings in Italy on their European tour, and
- 13:02Speaker 1: so they said, why don't we do something like this
- 13:06Speaker 1: in our native Germany. A lot of people make a
- 13:10Speaker 1: lot of play ats, right, But the difference here is
- 13:12Speaker 1: Leopold the third Frederick Farns is a prince, he's a duke,
- 13:19Speaker 1: he rules a small kingdom in modern day Dessow, and
- 13:25Speaker 1: he was a pretty good ruler, actually fairly progressive for
- 13:28Speaker 1: his time. He's born in seventeen forty, he's in his
- 13:32Speaker 1: mid twenties. On this tour of Europe, that's something a
- 13:35Speaker 1: lot of the members of the noble class do. So
- 13:38Speaker 1: he goes to London, Paris, Marseille, Rome, Venice, Naples, and
- 13:43Speaker 1: he sees Mount Vesuvius. He also encounters Pompeii, which had
- 13:48Speaker 1: been recently rediscovered in seventeen forty eight, and he was
- 13:53Speaker 1: in Pompeii in seventeen sixty six. So there are a
- 13:57Speaker 1: couple of big things you do. If you're a well
- 13:59Speaker 1: healed track have aler at the time you go to Vesuvius,
- 14:03Speaker 1: you climb it and see it with your own eyes.
- 14:06Speaker 1: And if you have some juice and you've got some pool,
- 14:10Speaker 1: then you actually visit the excavations of Pompeii. Franz was
- 14:16Speaker 1: able to do all of this, and they almost didn't
- 14:19Speaker 1: go to the volcano. This is the weird part. So
- 14:21Speaker 1: he and his friend Friedrich are trying to get to
- 14:25Speaker 1: the volcano, but then they notice the volcano is active again.
- 14:30Speaker 1: So the group says, look, we're here when are we
- 14:33Speaker 1: going to be back here, guys, let's volcano this, let's
- 14:37Speaker 1: be amateur volcanologists. They get to the edge of the
- 14:40Speaker 1: crater and then right when they're at the edge, they
- 14:43Speaker 1: experienced casicga low rumbling. Here they experience this growing sound
- 14:49Speaker 1: of vibration that turns into quote a most terrible roar,
- 14:53Speaker 1: accompanied by a thick cloud of smoke, and shortly afterwards
- 14:57Speaker 1: an ejection of stones, which the mountains spat out with
- 15:00Speaker 1: effort and threw far over summit. They watched the eruption. Dude,
- 15:04Speaker 1: it's pretty cool, man, Yeah, I love what was it
- 15:07Speaker 1: spat out stones? Yes, yes, with effort, with effort, of course.
- 15:13Speaker 1: So uh. When he returned to Volts, the Prince um
- 15:19Speaker 1: and Edmundorff and a landscape architect by the name of
- 15:23Speaker 1: Johann Friedrich Ias Beck Ias Beck Yeah, doing my best here.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Um started to go to town creating this like, you know, insane, ludicrous,
- 15:36Speaker 1: ostentatious display. And you know, we would call it a backyard,
- 15:40Speaker 1: I guess, or a garden. But it was just just
- 15:43Speaker 1: pretty massive. I mean it really was like a mini
- 15:45Speaker 1: kind of theme part and it was um, there were
- 15:47Speaker 1: these kind of enlightenment ideals that were kicking around that
- 15:51Speaker 1: were a huge influence over some of the ideas of
- 15:54Speaker 1: the time. UM. The idea of UH was Jean Jacques Rousseau,
- 15:58Speaker 1: for example, UM, the philosophy of nature, of being educated
- 16:04Speaker 1: by nature, let's say. And then there was this garden
- 16:07Speaker 1: movement that you know, like we talked about with those essays,
- 16:11Speaker 1: that really valued pastoral beauty over like the more formalized
- 16:17Speaker 1: kind of you know, hedge mazes and topiarias of the Baroque. Right, yeah, exactly.
- 16:23Speaker 1: This is a this is a very weird UH mixtape.
- 16:29Speaker 1: It's kind of like an architectural historical girl talk album
- 16:35Speaker 1: or like the avalanches. You know, they've taken all these
- 16:39Speaker 1: different elements Chinese pagodas, synagogues modeled after the Temple of
- 16:43Speaker 1: Hercules Victor in Rome, a miniature pantheon, all this stuff,
- 16:48Speaker 1: and they've they've put it together in one enormous state
- 16:51Speaker 1: or backyard or garden, and it takes decades to complete.
- 16:56Speaker 1: But at the end, what they what they have is
- 17:00Speaker 1: just as you've described, this sort of thematically unified tribute
- 17:06Speaker 1: or monument to the Enlightenment as as an age the
- 17:10Speaker 1: Enlightenment's view of art and nature, beauty, the meaning of
- 17:14Speaker 1: life and everything. At this point, you know, it's fair
- 17:17Speaker 1: to say if Douglas Adams had been publishing at the time,
- 17:20Speaker 1: they would have had a giant marble forty two up there,
- 17:24Speaker 1: right next to the pagoda. And as soon as it
- 17:27Speaker 1: was ready, Leopold open the park to the public. He
- 17:31Speaker 1: wanted everybody to see what wonders they had wrought. There
- 17:37Speaker 1: is one part of this park and is particularly amazing.
- 17:41Speaker 1: It is a furnace fed fake volcano. No fooling Prince
- 17:48Speaker 1: Leopold had kind of a as the History blog describes it,
- 17:53Speaker 1: a pet mount Vesuvius built and he could make it
- 17:56Speaker 1: erupt on command. It took six years to make. It
- 18:00Speaker 1: was done in se and this was like his big
- 18:04Speaker 1: science project. So you go to this cool outdoor public
- 18:09Speaker 1: space and then you'll learn a little on the way,
- 18:12Speaker 1: and you might just happen to see Leopold himself hanging
- 18:14Speaker 1: out saying, hey, kid, you want to learn about volcanoes,
- 18:18Speaker 1: hold my beer stein, watch this and flip a switch
- 18:22Speaker 1: and okay, so how exactly was this accomplished? This This
- 18:33Speaker 1: is an incredible feat clearly of of engineering and architecture.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Um so what went into it. Friends, Um and his
- 18:41Speaker 1: architects created a design that involved uh yeah, not that
- 18:45Speaker 1: not that different from the home made vulcany we're talking about,
- 18:49Speaker 1: because literally, in all of the instructions I found for
- 18:51Speaker 1: how to make one of those homemade science volcanoes, it
- 18:54Speaker 1: just says you need some kind of interior container that
- 18:58Speaker 1: holds the liquid to to house the reaction. Everything from
- 19:02Speaker 1: like maybe a smaller water bottle to like a two
- 19:05Speaker 1: leader soda bottle with the top with you know cut
- 19:08Speaker 1: in half, you know. Um. But for this they had
- 19:10Speaker 1: to build basically an inner building and it was five
- 19:13Speaker 1: stories high, and then cover it with what's described as
- 19:18Speaker 1: local boulders because only it had to be it was
- 19:22Speaker 1: they were. They weren't going to have any imported boulders.
- 19:24Speaker 1: They needed this to be authentic. At the top there
- 19:28Speaker 1: was a hollow cone that contained a high ceilinged chamber
- 19:33Speaker 1: containing three fireplaces. Um, and then the roof had like
- 19:39Speaker 1: a crater kind of situation that could be filled with
- 19:41Speaker 1: water to create all of that steam you know, when
- 19:44Speaker 1: the when the fire you know went off. Um and
- 19:48Speaker 1: Franz also built an amphitheater like a Greek style, you know,
- 19:54Speaker 1: hillside amphitheater with a little villa where he you know,
- 19:58Speaker 1: where the prince could have a personal kind of hang
- 20:02Speaker 1: out like an office, like a study, and also then
- 20:06Speaker 1: flooded part of the estate to create like a false
- 20:10Speaker 1: kind of lake or a moat rather surrounding the volcano,
- 20:13Speaker 1: which they referred to as a stone island. And then
- 20:16Speaker 1: of course he invited his friends to a very special
- 20:20Speaker 1: garden party where they watched the volcano erupt, which is
- 20:24Speaker 1: just amazing. And we have a modern day expert on this,
- 20:27Speaker 1: uh chemistry professor named Wolfgang Spiro, who had always had
- 20:32Speaker 1: a side interest in historical pyrotechnics. You know, we love
- 20:36Speaker 1: very specific areas of expertise. Uh So Spira talks about
- 20:43Speaker 1: how this actually went down. You know, obviously this is
- 20:48Speaker 1: the time before cable television and cell phones. So if
- 20:51Speaker 1: you happen to have a friend who has a fake
- 20:54Speaker 1: volcano and they invite you to watch it, well, yeah,
- 20:56Speaker 1: of course, what else are you gonna do. It's not
- 20:58Speaker 1: like wrestling is on. It's not like David Attenborough is
- 21:01Speaker 1: going to explain to you the wonders of the undersea world.
- 21:05Speaker 1: So you go, you watch this volcano and it seemed
- 21:09Speaker 1: like a pretty cool deal. But the question here is
- 21:14Speaker 1: was this realistic? What did the eruption actually look like?
- 21:19Speaker 1: We only have one image of this actual volcano, it's
- 21:23Speaker 1: a painting from but Wolfgang Spiup wanted to figure out
- 21:28Speaker 1: if this painting was realistic or if it was you know,
- 21:33Speaker 1: kind of gug up for fantasy. If you look at
- 21:37Speaker 1: the volcano in the painting, it looks really cool. It
- 21:40Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily look like a you know, an actual facts volcano,
- 21:44Speaker 1: as our pal Law and vogel Bamb would say, but
- 21:47Speaker 1: it's impressive. It's a stunner. So here's what Spira did.
- 21:51Speaker 1: He compared the size of the volcano and the painting
- 21:54Speaker 1: to the size of the real volcano, which is still
- 21:57Speaker 1: around by this point. Uh. The real volu cano rises
- 22:01Speaker 1: about fifty six ft above the river that flows past it.
- 22:07Speaker 1: And he could tell then that the smoke in the
- 22:09Speaker 1: painting represented a cloud about thirty ft high, and that,
- 22:14Speaker 1: he says, meant the smoke could have been from a
- 22:16Speaker 1: natural source, and the painting was therefore actually a pretty
- 22:20Speaker 1: good depiction of what the original eruption looked like. But
- 22:23Speaker 1: then he had a thousand more questions. What kind of
- 22:25Speaker 1: would would they have used? Why was the volcano so
- 22:28Speaker 1: far away from all the other weird toys the prince had?
- 22:32Speaker 1: Why were there three separate fireplaces concealed in a brick
- 22:36Speaker 1: line chamber underneath the volcano? Uh? Smithsonian has a great
- 22:41Speaker 1: breakdown of this where they say that some of the
- 22:44Speaker 1: most important clues come from a guy named Carl August Boatinger.
- 22:49Speaker 1: He wrote a really long account of watching the volcano
- 22:53Speaker 1: in and he was not writing this as a compliment it,
- 23:00Speaker 1: that's the funny part to me. Instead, he was roasting Leopold,
- 23:06Speaker 1: like he was like, why would you build this thing?
- 23:09Speaker 1: You weird weird man? And while he's doing this, he's
- 23:13Speaker 1: describing in detail, Uh, the mechanism of the thing, like
- 23:18Speaker 1: how the eruption starts from water released from the concealed
- 23:21Speaker 1: crater at the top of the volcano to simulate lava,
- 23:25Speaker 1: to the red lamps that give the pile of stone
- 23:29Speaker 1: kind of this otherworldly glow. How cool would that be
- 23:32Speaker 1: if this was still around? Ben? Oh, well, hold hold
- 23:36Speaker 1: your hold your horses, hold your volcanologist, I should say, Uh,
- 23:40Speaker 1: there were also fireworks? Why not? Why not? You know
- 23:43Speaker 1: it's already as if it could get any more ostentatious.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Let's add firework displays, and surely those were not like automated.
- 23:50Speaker 1: These would have to be loaded and set by you know,
- 23:52Speaker 1: individual workers every single time. Uh that it was set off.
- 23:57Speaker 1: It wasn't just like okay, like the Disneyland fireworks that
- 23:59Speaker 1: go off every night. And again those aren't automated either.
- 24:02Speaker 1: But here's what happened. Um, gunpowder, pitch, and sulfur were
- 24:06Speaker 1: really easy to get ahold of. In the eighteenth century,
- 24:09Speaker 1: pipe pyrotechnics were super popular and uh, a lot of
- 24:13Speaker 1: the folks involved in this situation came from military background,
- 24:16Speaker 1: so they were intimately familiar with these explosives. There was
- 24:20Speaker 1: something called Bengal fire, which was a type of chemical
- 24:25Speaker 1: that has added to create a bright blue or red flame.
- 24:29Speaker 1: That's a lot like what we would see today in
- 24:32Speaker 1: terms in the form of a like a flare, like
- 24:34Speaker 1: a road flare or something you used on a ship. Absolutely,
- 24:38Speaker 1: so this is since we were a family show and
- 24:42Speaker 1: sometimes played in classrooms. This is bad but that sounds
- 24:46Speaker 1: more awkward than badass. Yeah it does, bad boy, but
- 24:53Speaker 1: your bottom So this is cool, right, This is this
- 24:57Speaker 1: is objectively crazy and the very definition of a public spectacle.
- 25:02Speaker 1: You know, Franz was obsessed with this. He loved it,
- 25:06Speaker 1: loved it, loved it. He passes away at eighteen twenty
- 25:10Speaker 1: and the eruption stopped because his sole legitimate son is like,
- 25:16Speaker 1: why would you? Why would you build this volcano? You
- 25:20Speaker 1: weird weird man. And most of his garden realm as
- 25:26Speaker 1: it was called, was preserved after his death, but the
- 25:29Speaker 1: volcano fell into neglect over the course of the next
- 25:33Speaker 1: century and a half. Luckily, the garden overall survived World
- 25:38Speaker 1: War Two with very minor damage. The worst damage it
- 25:41Speaker 1: received actually, and this is this is just tragic. Uh.
- 25:46Speaker 1: German forces destroyed the interior of the synagogue during Crystal
- 25:51Speaker 1: Knock in November of nine and the only reason the
- 25:55Speaker 1: synagogue survives is because the director of the park at
- 25:59Speaker 1: the time, a guy named Hans Halvarden, kept the building
- 26:02Speaker 1: from being destroyed completely and they fired him. But in
- 26:06Speaker 1: my opinion, Hans is a hero for that. So after
- 26:10Speaker 1: World War two it becomes part of East Germany. See
- 26:13Speaker 1: we brought it back around. This area is part of
- 26:16Speaker 1: East Germany. The volcano is further neglected and according to
- 26:21Speaker 1: Hiko Pills, one of the graduate assistants at the time
- 26:26Speaker 1: at the Bradenburg Technical University. The very last eruptions with
- 26:30Speaker 1: the fake volcano were just burning tires and was overgrown
- 26:33Speaker 1: with weeds and falling apart, and after part of it
- 26:38Speaker 1: collapsed and killed someone in authorities in East Germany condemned it,
- 26:43Speaker 1: which is a shame, oh man. And I maybe was
- 26:46Speaker 1: being a little coy earlier, but maybe I wasn't when
- 26:48Speaker 1: I said, gosh, sure, woody cool, this is still around today.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Enough of the kind of basis of this thing are
- 26:58Speaker 1: still around. The stone Island of Volts part of the
- 27:02Speaker 1: Garden Realm of Volets and Onesco. World Heritage deemed it
- 27:06Speaker 1: a historical site. Um it's about an hour south of
- 27:10Speaker 1: Berlin by car. But in the early two thousands it
- 27:14Speaker 1: was condemned and really, you know, was overgrown with weeds
- 27:19Speaker 1: and something of a hazard to be around. The stones
- 27:22Speaker 1: were in repair and could have collapsed, but a five
- 27:26Speaker 1: year restoration project fixed all this and deemed the volcano
- 27:30Speaker 1: to be safe, but yet silent um. It was not
- 27:35Speaker 1: restored to its full glory until two thousand four, when
- 27:38Speaker 1: the World Heritage Sites Management looked to a gentleman by
- 27:42Speaker 1: the name of Wolfgang Spira, who was in a chemistry
- 27:47Speaker 1: professor from the Brandenburg Technical University UM, and he did.
- 27:51Speaker 1: He had a particular um. He had a particular penchant
- 27:55Speaker 1: for historical pyrotechnics. Let's add that to the list of
- 27:58Speaker 1: weird special realizations, right like underwater explosions, historical pyrotechnics. And
- 28:04Speaker 1: he wanted to bring the volcano roaring back to life because,
- 28:08Speaker 1: according to Spira, a volcano that can't explode is a
- 28:13Speaker 1: very sad volcano. Indeed, and he wanted to make it
- 28:16Speaker 1: happy again, he says, which I love. Um, he wanted
- 28:20Speaker 1: to help the volcano get its identity back. This guy
- 28:23Speaker 1: is very high, high concept thinker. It would appear, um.
- 28:27Speaker 1: So he spent a decade as the head of Berlin's
- 28:29Speaker 1: criminology lab UM. And he actually signs his emails the
- 28:34Speaker 1: eruptor we need an explosion for that total Yeah, could
- 28:38Speaker 1: you say it again, nol the eruptor the oupor Okay, sorry, Casey,
- 28:45Speaker 1: thank you so much. Look at I've looked at it, Dacy,
- 28:48Speaker 1: wondering how far we can push the Salacus today. I
- 28:56Speaker 1: love that quote where Wolfgang wants to help this volcano
- 28:59Speaker 1: get its identity back. So he starts doing his detective work,
- 29:04Speaker 1: which we mentioned earlier, and eventually he gets the volcano
- 29:10Speaker 1: ready to rock and lava, rock and roll, rock and
- 29:13Speaker 1: lava again, and he recreates the events. It's still incredible
- 29:20Speaker 1: even to people in the twenty one century. If we
- 29:23Speaker 1: can set the tone. People are gathering outside of the
- 29:27Speaker 1: shores of this artificial lake. They're listening to these rumbles.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Wine is flowing freely, twilight is deepening into what some
- 29:35Speaker 1: German poets called the blue hour. We we call it
- 29:39Speaker 1: kind of like it's just past golden hour. For anybody
- 29:42Speaker 1: familiar with filming, it's just a little bit deeper right
- 29:45Speaker 1: before the night sets on. I've never heard of the
- 29:47Speaker 1: blue hour. Well, we're not German poets yet. So as
- 29:50Speaker 1: this rumbling is building, as this suscerous reaches a crescendo,
- 29:56Speaker 1: there is a rumble of drums and thunder. Red flame
- 30:00Speaker 1: games flicker at the top of the volcano, growing into
- 30:03Speaker 1: a thick column of smoke, and red tinged water starts
- 30:07Speaker 1: to flow from the crater, churning into the lake below.
- 30:10Speaker 1: There are these loud explosions, sending sparks careening into the
- 30:15Speaker 1: sky and inside the peak of the volcano. There's an
- 30:19Speaker 1: eighty six square foot oven packed with fresh pine needles.
- 30:24Speaker 1: They roar into a smoky fire. They send the sparks
- 30:27Speaker 1: higher and higher and higher. Bredenburg Technical University students are
- 30:33Speaker 1: watching this. They're wearing gas masks. They run from fireplace
- 30:37Speaker 1: to fireplace in the secret chamber below, and they're squirting
- 30:41Speaker 1: lighter fluid all over these fires and tossing in this
- 30:44Speaker 1: special powder to make the smoke have a bright color.
- 30:48Speaker 1: And then they get to see in a very real
- 30:50Speaker 1: way a snapshot of history from centuries before, which is beautiful. Yeah,
- 30:56Speaker 1: but they didn't solve it all though. There was one
- 30:59Speaker 1: graduate student, Joe miss Loman, who said, the original volcano
- 31:03Speaker 1: still has its secrets. Of course, I wonder how they
- 31:06Speaker 1: did the noise. Nowadays we have high fi speakers, but
- 31:09Speaker 1: back then, no idea. Yeah, it's true, but they it
- 31:14Speaker 1: was really important to them to keep the experience authentic, right.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Um So, spira and and quills, Oh my goodness, gracious,
- 31:22Speaker 1: I love this. When q U I L t Z
- 31:25Speaker 1: S c H, I'm just gonna say quilch Um. They
- 31:29Speaker 1: didn't want to cheapen the experience by like over hyping
- 31:34Speaker 1: the event. Um So, they don't want it to be again.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Like the fireworks at Disneyland there every single night, and
- 31:41Speaker 1: they're really cool. When you're there visiting, it's magical. But
- 31:43Speaker 1: I imagine if you live in Orlando, it just becomes
- 31:46Speaker 1: like super hum drum, you know what I mean. Maybe, yeah,
- 31:49Speaker 1: it's not Christmas if it's every day. So technically, folks,
- 31:54Speaker 1: if you are in the area, you can visit this volcano.
- 31:58Speaker 1: It's still in place to rumbled back to life in
- 32:01Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and about once a year they
- 32:04Speaker 1: fired their pet vesuvious up. But the funny thing is
- 32:08Speaker 1: you can't get advanced notice of this. Really. They won't
- 32:11Speaker 1: tell you when the next eruption will beat. One of
- 32:13Speaker 1: them said, and I look this. These guys are great
- 32:16Speaker 1: with the sound bites. One of one of the creators said,
- 32:19Speaker 1: would you ask a volcano when it's going to go off?
- 32:26Speaker 1: I added that laugh at the end that's not not
- 32:28Speaker 1: in the quote. Oh yeah, I was with it. I
- 32:31Speaker 1: was with it. I think this is fascinating. I would
- 32:33Speaker 1: love one of these in my backyard. Uh maybe it's
- 32:36Speaker 1: like a like a like a scaled down version. It
- 32:39Speaker 1: reminds me of a miniature golf course. Kind of like
- 32:41Speaker 1: the kind of feature you might see in a miniature
- 32:43Speaker 1: golf course where you hit the golf ball like into
- 32:46Speaker 1: the hole on the side of the volcano and then
- 32:48Speaker 1: it shoots out the top or something like that. Um,
- 32:51Speaker 1: I could go for that. I've seen some real volcanoes before.
- 32:55Speaker 1: I haven't been to the edge of one during interruption,
- 32:59Speaker 1: but but yeah, this seems like at least the next
- 33:02Speaker 1: best thing. So for everybody working on a science project now,
- 33:07Speaker 1: we just wanted to give you a glimpse of how
- 33:09Speaker 1: far you can go with a fake volcano. Thanks as
- 33:14Speaker 1: always to our super producer, Casey Pegrum, Thanks to our
- 33:17Speaker 1: research associate, the one, the Only, Gabe Bluesier. Gabe, if
- 33:22Speaker 1: you're listening, checkmate, my friend, we learned how to correctly
- 33:27Speaker 1: pronounce your last name. Oh we did. We have an
- 33:29Speaker 1: inside scoop and now nothing will ever be the same again.
- 33:33Speaker 1: We can we can still, you know, go on pretending
- 33:35Speaker 1: like we don't trying different ways. But I think we
- 33:37Speaker 1: were right from the start where we've been. A isn't
- 33:38Speaker 1: a Louzier. But you know what, now I'm mixed up again.
- 33:42Speaker 1: Ye same, but you know, either way, you're your subterfuge aside. Gabe, Um,
- 33:49Speaker 1: we we really love you and we're thankful for you
- 33:51Speaker 1: on this our episode just prior to Thanksgiving. Hope everyone
- 33:56Speaker 1: out there is being safe. Um. You know, there's a
- 33:59Speaker 1: lot of we ad myth with families right now, especially
- 34:01Speaker 1: if you're on different sides of political divide perhaps of
- 34:05Speaker 1: whether or not you know it's okay to do Thanksgiving
- 34:08Speaker 1: like normal, And um, I just hope everyone's having a
- 34:11Speaker 1: good conversation about it and and and and thinking of
- 34:13Speaker 1: others and maybe you know, doing it on zoom this
- 34:16Speaker 1: year and everything will be better again soon. But I
- 34:19Speaker 1: think we just if we can push through, then maybe
- 34:21Speaker 1: we'll all be better for it. And I would like
- 34:25Speaker 1: to point out for those of us who historically try
- 34:29Speaker 1: to do a little bit of volunteering, uh and so
- 34:31Speaker 1: on during this time of year, I want to point
- 34:34Speaker 1: out that volunteering doesn't have to be a seasonal thing.
- 34:38Speaker 1: If you feel moved to help people, there are always
- 34:41Speaker 1: people out there who could use a helping hand. So
- 34:44Speaker 1: think of those folks, not just on Thanksgiving, but think
- 34:48Speaker 1: of them, you know, in the lull of the holiday calendar,
- 34:52Speaker 1: because they're still there. And we'll follow up with an
- 34:53Speaker 1: even punch here thanksgiving an episode later later this uh
- 34:58Speaker 1: later this week, so stay tuned. Also, as always, thanks
- 35:04Speaker 1: to our number one Turkey, Jonathan Strickland a k. The
- 35:07Speaker 1: Quister is that you mean not at all? No, he's uh,
- 35:11Speaker 1: he's more of a tur Ducan kind of figure. Uh.
- 35:13Speaker 1: He contains multitude. He's like one of those Cathulu tur
- 35:16Speaker 1: Ducans with the squid that you've seen on the internet. Maybe. Um,
- 35:20Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, we'll have him back very soon,
- 35:22Speaker 1: very excited. Uh. I think he what he he be
- 35:24Speaker 1: got us this last time. But now we have the
- 35:26Speaker 1: opportunity to to to to get him back. That probably
- 35:29Speaker 1: won't be until after the holidays, so um yeah. Check
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