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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Last December,
- 0:01SPEAKER_00: I sat at my kitchen table with 14 appeal letters spread out in front of me like
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: a losing hand of solitaire,
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: a photograph of a child in a doorway,
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: a golden retriever wearing a service vest,
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: a note in blue ink that looked handwritten until you noticed all 14 envelopes had
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: the exact same handwriting.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: My checkbook was open.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: My pen was uncapped.
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: I did not write a single check for 11 days.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: That stopped me because I am not someone who freezes up about money.
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: I have built organizational budgets in the high six figures.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: I have signed off on grants that paid staff salaries and rent and the electric bill
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: for a nonprofit I founded myself.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: I know what a balance sheet is supposed to tell you and what it's hiding.
- 0:53SPEAKER_00: And still,
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: that pile of envelopes sat there for almost two weeks because somewhere in
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: the last 30 years,
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: I had lost track of how I actually decide where my money goes when someone else is
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: the one asking.
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: This is an episode about that,
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: about how I choose where to give now that I've sat on both sides of that envelope,
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: the one asking and the one deciding,
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: and about what it actually means to give with integrity When integrity is
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: a word every appeal letter uses and almost none of them define.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: Welcome to After the Rush.
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: I'm Catherine McDowell.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: This is a show about designing the chapter after the one that made you who you are.
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: Told by someone who is building hers in real time.
- 1:44SPEAKER_00: Not someone who already finished.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: If this is your first episode, you're not behind.
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: Start here.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: Nothing before this one is required reading.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: Here is what nobody explains to you about appeal letters.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: I know, because for a decade I wrote them.
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: They are built on a very specific piece of psychology,
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: and it works, which is why it hasn't changed in 50 years.
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: A photograph,
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: close-up,
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: usually a child or an animal,
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: something that bypasses the part of your brain that asks questions.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: A deadline that isn't really a deadline.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: Your gift will be matched, but only until December 31st.
- 2:31SPEAKER_00: A dollar figure that sounds precise enough to be true.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: Just $22 provides a week of meals.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: I have written that sentence.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: I have workshopped that sentence with a board of directors who argued for 40 minutes
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: about whether $22 sounded more trustworthy than $25.
- 2:52SPEAKER_00: None of that makes the organization dishonest.
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: I want to be clear about that,
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: because it would be easy for this episode to turn into a takedown,
- 3:01SPEAKER_00: and that's not what I'm doing.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: Fundraising is hard,
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: unglamorous work,
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: and the people who do it are almost always underpaid for how much they carry.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: I was one of them.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: I know what it costs to keep the lights on for a mission you believe in
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: And I know how many nights you spend writing a version of the same letter,
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: trying to find the sentence that gets someone to stop scrolling and actually reach
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: for a pen.
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: But knowing how the letter is built changes how you read it.
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: And most of us have never been taught to read it any differently than we did
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: the first time, at 25, when a photograph of a child was enough.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: So the pattern most people fall into,
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: the one I fell into for years without noticing, is what I'd call mail-pile giving.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: You give to whoever asked most recently,
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: or most movingly, or right before a tax deadline you'd mostly forgotten about.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: It isn't reckless.
- 4:00SPEAKER_00: It's just reactive.
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: And reactive giving at scale over a lifetime adds up to a giving history
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: That reflects who is good at asking,
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: rather than what you actually believe deserves your money.
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: I did the math on myself once, a few years ago, out of curiosity more than concern.
- 4:21SPEAKER_00: I pulled a year of bank statements and counted every charitable gift I'd made.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: 18 organizations.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: Most gifts were under $100.
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: I could tell you what pulled at me in the moment for maybe 6 of the 18.
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: The other 12 I genuinely could not have named at a dinner party
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: if you'd asked me what they did or why I'd chosen them.
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: That's not generosity.
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: That's static.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: It's the financial equivalent of a junk drawer.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: And I had built it one thoughtful sounding envelope at a time.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: For a long time,
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: if you wanted to know whether a nonprofit was legitimate,
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: someone would tell you to check the overhead ratio.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: What percentage of the budget goes to programs versus what percentage goes
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: to salaries, rent, and fundraising itself?
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Low overhead meant good.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: High overhead meant something to be suspicious of.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: I believed this too for years before I sat on the other side of it.
- 5:26SPEAKER_00: Here's what I want to be careful about,
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: because this is the kind of claim that's easy to overstate.
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: In June of 2013,
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: the three biggest charity watchdog organizations in the country,
- 5:38SPEAKER_00: GuideStar,
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: Charity Navigator,
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: and the BBB Wise Giving Alliance,
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: the very groups whose reputations were built on rating that number,
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: published something together called the Overhead Myth.
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a study with a dramatic headline result.
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: It was closer to a correction.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: They said,
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: in effect,
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: that overhead ratio alone is a poor way to judge whether
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: a nonprofit is doing its job well,
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: because overhead includes the training,
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: the planning, the evaluation, and the systems that make the actual program work.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: Starve an organization of that, and you don't get a leaner charity.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: You get a charity that can't tell if what it's doing is working.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: I had a version of this play out in my own nonprofit.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: We ran a financial literacy program for women coming out of situations
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: with no credit history,
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: sometimes no bank account, sometimes nothing but a lease they couldn't read.
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: It worked.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: Not perfectly.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: Nothing does.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: But it worked well enough that we could show you outcomes, not just feelings.
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: And one year,
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: a donor who had given us a meaningful gift for three years running pulled out,
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: not because a client had a bad experience,
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: not because the money was mismanaged,
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: because she'd looked at our Form 990 and seen
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: that our administrative costs had ticked up two percentage points from the year
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: before and decided that meant we'd gotten sloppy.
- 7:14SPEAKER_00: What had actually happened is that we'd hired a part-time evaluator,
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: someone whose entire job was to make sure
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: the program was doing what we said it was doing.
- 7:24SPEAKER_00: The number that scared her off was the number that meant we were finally checking our own work.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: I did not get her back that year.
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: I did get a much better data collection system out of it,
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: so I suppose there's a version of this story where everybody wins,
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: several years later, after I stopped being annoyed.
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: Here's the part I think is actually useful, beyond my own story.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: A Form 990 is public.
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: Any nonprofit that isn't a church has to file one,
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: and any donor can pull one up in a few minutes, usually free.
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: Through a couple of well-known nonprofit databases.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: Most people never look.
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: I understand why.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: It reads like a tax form, because it is one.
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: But you don't need to understand every line.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: You need three things off the front page.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: How much the top staff are paid,
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: relative to the size of the budget,
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: which tells you whether compensation is reasonable or alarming in either direction.
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: Whether the organization describes specific program accomplishments
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: in its own words,
- 8:35SPEAKER_00: in the section built for exactly that,
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: or whether it left that section thin,
- 8:40SPEAKER_00: and whether the same few names have controlled the board for a decade,
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: which isn't automatically a problem, but is worth noticing.
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: None of that requires a finance background.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: It requires 10 minutes and the willingness to actually read past the cover page.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: So if overhead percentage isn't the number, what is?
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: I want to be honest that there isn't one clean number.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: Anyone who tells you there's a single metric that separates a good nonprofit from
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: a bad one is selling you something,
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: usually a rating system, with their own logo on it.
- 9:21SPEAKER_00: What I can tell you is what I actually ask now,
- 9:24SPEAKER_00: the questions I bring from the side of the desk where the decisions get made.
- 9:29SPEAKER_00: First, can they tell me a specific story with a number attached to it,
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: not, we served 3,000 families.
- 9:39SPEAKER_00: A specific story.
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: How many people finished the program, what changed for them, and how they know.
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: If a program officer can't give you one real example without checking a script,
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: that tells you something about how closely anyone is actually watching the work.
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: Second, what happens when the money runs out?
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: Every program has a version of this.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: Ask what the plan is for year three,
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: for the grant that ends, for the founder who eventually leaves.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: Organizations that have thought about their own fragility tend to be more honest
- 10:18SPEAKER_00: about their own limitations.
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: And I trust honesty about limitations more than I trust confidence.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: Third, and this one took me the longest to learn to ask,
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: who is in the room when decisions get made?
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Not just the board list on the website.
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: Who is actually at the table when the organization decides what success looks like?
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: An organization serving a community that has no one from that community in
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: a decision-making seat is a different kind of organization than one that does,
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: even if the mission statement reads the same.
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: None of these questions take more than one phone call to ask.
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: That's the part people don't expect.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: You don't need an accounting degree.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: You need to be willing to ask a direct question and actually listen to the answer,
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: including the parts of the answer that are uncomfortable.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: I went from 18 organizations to five.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: That's not a rule I'd hand anyone.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: It's just what happened once I started asking the questions instead of responding to
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: the envelopes.
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: The five I give to now, I could describe each one's work to you in detail.
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: Because I've asked,
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: and because in two cases I've toured, the actual building where the work happens.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: I know one program director by name and have her direct line, not the general office number.
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: I've watched one organization's outcome shift over three years of giving,
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: which you cannot do if you give once and move to the next envelope
- 12:01SPEAKER_00: the following December.
- 12:03SPEAKER_00: Depth, it turns out, requires staying somewhere long enough to see whether it changes.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: I still get the appeal letters.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: All 18 organizations, plus a few dozen I've never given to at all, still have my address.
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: I don't feel guilty throwing most of them away now, which surprised me.
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: I used to feel that every unanswered envelope was a small failure of character.
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: It isn't.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: It's just mail.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: The failure of character,
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: if there is one,
- 12:35SPEAKER_00: would be writing checks I never think about again
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: to organizations I couldn't describe,
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: purely so the guilt would stop for one afternoon.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: I want to name something because I can feel where this episode wants to go,
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: and I don't trust the direction.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: It would be easy to turn this into a story about becoming a philanthropist.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: Reinventing yourself in this chapter as someone with a giving strategy and
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: a foundation and a wing named after you somewhere.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: I'm not building that.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: I'd guess you're not either.
- 13:14SPEAKER_00: And I think the reinvention version of this conversation,
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: the one that shows up in glossy retirement magazines,
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: does something a little dishonest.
- 13:24SPEAKER_00: It suggests you need to become a different kind of person to give well.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: Learn a new vocabulary.
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: Adopt a new identity.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: Philanthropist with a capital P.
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's true,
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: and I think it's actually a little insulting to what you already know.
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: I know how to read a budget.
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: I spent years doing it professionally.
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: I know what a proposal is supposed to promise and what it usually can't deliver,
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: because I wrote plenty of those promises myself and watched which ones held up.
- 13:58SPEAKER_00: I know how to ask a board a hard question without making it personal,
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: because I sat on both sides of that table, too.
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: I am not reinventing myself into a donor.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: I am designing a giving practice out of the person I already spent 40 years becoming.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: That's a smaller task than reinvention, and it's a truer one.
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: You don't need a new self to give well.
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: You need to bring the self you already built to the checkbook,
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: on purpose, instead of leaving it in the mail pile with the pen still uncapped.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: Here's what I'd actually suggest, and it's small enough to do this week.
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: Pick one organization already sitting somewhere in your life.
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: Not from the pile of envelopes.
- 14:46SPEAKER_00: One you've already touched, even briefly.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: The food pantry near your church.
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: The community college where a scholarship fund carries your granddaughter's name on
- 14:56SPEAKER_00: a plaque somewhere.
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: The shelter where your daughter volunteers on Saturday mornings.
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: Call them.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: Not to give yet.
- 15:05SPEAKER_00: Just call and ask the person who answers one question.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: What did you use the last gift you received for?
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: And how do you know it worked?
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: Listen to how they answer,
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: whether they have a real story ready or whether they reach for a brochure.
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: That's data, too, and it's better data than anything printed on an envelope.
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: I still have that stack from last December somewhere in a kitchen drawer.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: Fourteen envelopes, most of them unopened past the first paragraph.
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: There will probably be a new stack this year,
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: but there's one envelope I already know I'm going to open first because I made
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: the call ahead of time and I already know what they'll say.
- 15:51SPEAKER_00: That, more than any percentage on any form, is the giving I've actually come to believe in.
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: That's this episode of After the Rush.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: If it was useful,
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: the most helpful thing you can do is share it with the one person you thought of
- 16:09SPEAKER_00: while listening, the one who's also sitting on a stack of envelopes somewhere.
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- 16:28SPEAKER_00: A quick note,
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: since this episode touches money,
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: I'm not a licensed financial planner and nothing here is financial or tax advice.
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: What I've offered is the perspective of someone who has sat on both sides of
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: the nonprofit desk and who believes money is never only about money.
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: Talk to your own tax professional about how charitable giving fits your specific situation.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: I'm Catherine McDowell.
- 16:55SPEAKER_00: This has been After the Rush.