Latest / Deprogrammed Music Podcast / American Football
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- 0:31Program the podcast where we try to get you into a sport, no,
- 0:37it's a Bandits American football and by rocks, like by the way,
- 0:43things kind of shook out because this one's been on Ice since
- 0:47never Burton. Alex, you know, I'm not trying
- 0:49to put you on blast here sir, but please check your DM's.
- 0:53I think you become the pilot here.
- 0:57John, I think you, I think Ryan put them on the board.
- 1:02I think you signed up and then Alex signed.
- 1:05I'm I might have, but yeah, it probably was him.
- 1:09Yeah again I I mean we put this panel together in November who
- 1:14knows when it got put on the board.
- 1:16So so American football. Tell me about it.
- 1:20Why was it important that you were here for this band today?
- 1:23Well, American football is one of the bands that came out of
- 1:29the lineage of the kinsella brothers.
- 1:32Hi Tim and Mike and Nate I believe.
- 1:35Nate is the one in American football which was were born out
- 1:39of cabbage as one of the great kind of early, you know, 90s
- 1:46mid-90s emo bands. Basically, that's kind of
- 1:50spawned a lot of those bands that became popular later on.
- 1:54You know, the promise ring was another one of those bands that
- 1:57came out of that Joan of Arc owls like the list goes on.
- 2:02On and on and basically anything connected with the kinsella
- 2:08brothers, is is worth worth mentioning and worth talking
- 2:12about, because they're all very talented and in different ways
- 2:15and I believe Nate was the was the drummer in chem Jazz for a
- 2:20little while or for most of it. And now he is for American
- 2:23football, he kind of steps out and plays guitar and sings and
- 2:27shows, kind of what he can do. So we've got like a, we've got a
- 2:30drummer coming out from behind The kit and and and becoming the
- 2:34frontman situation, which is always interesting.
- 2:37And yeah, there there's a two because, you know, they were
- 2:41around kind of in the late 90s, early 2000s and and then I
- 2:46believe and then went away and then they came back a couple
- 2:50years ago with the with a big, big reunions record.
- 2:54But the real story is is this house?
- 2:56I mean this American football house that's on the cover of all
- 2:59these records has become like this.
- 3:01This thing of In the in the kind of underground in the community,
- 3:05I think. So I'm just here to talk about
- 3:06the house, all right? It's the house that American
- 3:11football built. And I'm going to tell you this
- 3:13story real quick because Court actually saved the day here.
- 3:18You know, the way the way it shook out is this was initially
- 3:23a four-person panel, then I was going to be a five-person panel.
- 3:25So a couple weeks back, we were doing Motion City.
- 3:32And I said, you know, hey, you know, we're working on a couple
- 3:35in court asks, which ones I said American football and exact
- 3:38words put me in coach. So here you are cord.
- 3:43Why, why is this a put me in coach situation?
- 3:46Why were you anxious to get in here?
- 3:50I mean emo and like Midwest emo is just like, that's like my
- 3:56wheelhouse for genre. Like I absolutely love all of
- 3:59that stuff if you couldn't kind. Already tell by the shows that
- 4:03I've been on, for the program's here.
- 4:05Um, and American football is one of those bands where when I was
- 4:10first, like, back in high school, I found out about, like,
- 4:16I grew up in the era of like the quote unquote, like Molly Mao
- 4:20stuff. Like we're talking, you know, I
- 4:23mean, Jimmy Eat World and Taking Back Sunday.
- 4:25We're like the real emo bands out of the way, but then you had
- 4:28all like, the, My Chemical Romance, and the Fall Out, Boy,
- 4:30and all that stuff. And that was my Sort of
- 4:32introduction. Quiet, trying to stay quiet,
- 4:34calling them all emo, okay? That's the distinction, the Hot
- 4:41Topic email. So that's kind of what my
- 4:43introduction to it was and then late high school.
- 4:48I ended up finding just on like online music.
- 4:51Forums about ended up finding out about this like more Indie
- 4:57flavored Midwest emo stuff that started in the 90s and then
- 5:01eventually Led to the wave that was happening around the time.
- 5:04I was graduating high school which was bands like snowing and
- 5:07Algernon Cadwallader and like, you know, look Mexico and a
- 5:12bunch of other bands. So I started getting into those
- 5:15bands and then you know, in the same circles was being shared, a
- 5:19bunch of people were finding this American football LP from
- 5:221999 and like as I have heard it, you know, like my kids, I've
- 5:27heard like a interview with Mike kinsella, where he talks about,
- 5:30like, no one cared about Pus in 1999 and then 15 years later, a
- 5:34bunch of kids on the internet were like, whoa, this bands.
- 5:36Cool. And that was kind of where I
- 5:39came in and American football really grabbed me, because it
- 5:42was like, I mean, I already started to fall in love with
- 5:46this particular emo sound. But American football, had this
- 5:49flavor to them that was like nostalgic for me even though I
- 5:54know for a fact, there was no way I would have ever heard them
- 5:56before, you know, my like junior senior year of high school.
- 6:01And so I just kind of began to fall in love with this band.
- 6:04And then with, you know, exploring the kinsella, brothers
- 6:08of, like, you know, finding out about cap and Jazz.
- 6:11And Mike can sell has solo project after In football called
- 6:15Owen. And yeah, so, American football
- 6:17has been like, they're one of these bands that like I wouldn't
- 6:22put them in like, a high spot for like a big emotional
- 6:27connection banned for me, like they're definitely in that
- 6:29wheelhouse for sure, but I think more than anything, they're just
- 6:32consist like a consistent. Listen, since I have found them,
- 6:36we're like American football is always somewhere in my
- 6:40periphery, you know, since I've found that band there.
- 6:44Just always around in what I'm listening to.
- 6:47I do I do want to piggyback on on some of these days because
- 6:50Justin he he did drop some some names of some newer bands that
- 6:54kind of like are in this kind of Revival sound, the Algernon
- 6:58Cadwallader and snowing and stuff like that.
- 6:59And you might not be familiar with those bands, but free-throw
- 7:03is also kind of one of those bands, and you will be familiar
- 7:05with them. So, that's kind of the thing
- 7:07he's talking about God. Yeah, gotcha.
- 7:10So I think this is yet another band that kind of was Is
- 7:14floating around in The Ether. Like, I'd heard the name and,
- 7:19you know, I just American football.
- 7:21I get it. Hey.
- 7:21Oh, you know, chucklehead me and and, you know, 2010 or 2011 or
- 7:27whatever. And I just, I never bothered
- 7:34giving it the time of day and I hit play and you know we'll get
- 7:42into like they're the specifics of this and it's funny.
- 7:44You mentioned that Nostalgia chord.
- 7:47There's no way. I'd never heard this band
- 7:50before. There is literally, no way that
- 7:53this could be Nostalgia for me. But there is this baked in
- 7:57Nostalgia to their sound, that takes you to, like a lake house
- 8:00or that takes you, it takes you places.
- 8:03And John, this might be one of my like you've put up a lot.
- 8:08Of bands that are kind of like in this wavelength and I think
- 8:12this might be my favorite one that you've put up to date.
- 8:15Like, I, I loved this band. It reminds me a lot of theirs.
- 8:20Now obviously the band I'm about to say actually comes after
- 8:25American football but there's a local band, long division and I
- 8:28bring them a lot up a lot on the show and right down to the
- 8:32trumpet. Like and I got to put you on
- 8:36blast, Joel. If you're little Better be
- 8:38listening to this episode. He commented on on the post he
- 8:41didn't he didn't put up any songs but he said he was going
- 8:44to jump in and then he didn't so Joel.
- 8:47I'm now that I found out that you've listened.
- 8:51You listen to this show, you have to sign up for episodes but
- 8:55so they are they named after the fugazi song Long Division?
- 8:59I possibly, I feel like they told me the story when they were
- 9:02on You music show and that was like, a long long time ago.
- 9:06I don't remember. But I'm pretty sure they are
- 9:10named after a song, there's also a death cab song called long
- 9:15division. I mean, it could be it could be
- 9:17either of those because I guess I would probably lean towards
- 9:21Death Cab because their sound is more like this, the Death Cab
- 9:26American football type of, you know what they're doing.
- 9:29Only, they're all instrumental. So, Joel, again, you're
- 9:33listening, you can tell us the story, feel free to sign up,
- 9:37leading to stupid.com. Shut up, Joel.
- 9:39I haven't talked to you in forever man.
- 9:41All right, so I can't remember was this like did we chop this
- 9:45discography? Or was there, just not much to
- 9:48it and because it and we ended up with 32 Songs.
- 9:51I know you put it all together. John.
- 9:53Yeah, there's there's only the three LPS and they're pretty
- 9:57much, I think eight to ten songs each.
- 9:59Like it's not very much and then we added, I think I added a
- 10:04couple of ups and the recent thing that they did Song like a
- 10:09live song from a live EP in a cover.
- 10:12So kind of flush it out a little bit, to get to 30, but yeah, it
- 10:15was, it was tight. We're closed.
- 10:18So being that it's at 32 limit, that means you only get 15
- 10:21songs. Did that change?
- 10:23How you how you did this or, or did you do it the same?
- 10:28Pretty much the same. I think 20 probably would have
- 10:30been a little bit overkill for this mean, you're looking.
- 10:33That's looking at two out of every three songs that doesn't
- 10:37that's not very I'm doing so I think 15 is a good, a good
- 10:43number for this. Like I was able to get a lot of
- 10:46the stuff that they're really jumped out at me and, you know,
- 10:49we'll still kind of still going to have that middle area between
- 10:52like 13 and 17 where you're like.
- 10:54All right. Like I like these songs but I
- 10:56kind of have to have to make a decision, like, you want to have
- 10:58to make a decision, you know. So you have to get worked out,
- 11:02fine, didn't have a problem with it and cord.
- 11:04You jumped on only a couple weeks ago so like how I mean
- 11:09hearing that it you may have made just be hearing that it's
- 11:12only 15 but uh how did how did your song selection go?
- 11:18Yeah. No like honestly it was a so
- 11:21this was kind of a fun experience to go through because
- 11:25I'm like first EP first. LP are like heavy in my rotation
- 11:31and then like the later half the discography is not like
- 11:34necessarily. I something that I listen to and
- 11:37disliked It's like never like I have maybe listen to him once or
- 11:42twice and never made them into my like regular rotation.
- 11:45So like, yeah, it was honestly, I had the rare occasion where I
- 11:52hit 15 on my first pass. So, yeah, there, yeah.
- 11:57I mean, that is so, so, so rare. I mean, like John said, you
- 12:03usually want to make those decisions because they hurt but
- 12:08like, Like also, if you can do it without the hurt, you know,
- 12:11why not? I think I think my first pass
- 12:13was 19 and, you know, just enough to where you have to make
- 12:17a couple difficult choices. And as I was listening before,
- 12:24you know, I always try to listen to either at least, you know, my
- 12:2815 or my list or I try to listen to the whole playlist and record
- 12:33you came in, I was like I was jamming I think I had just
- 12:36finished the first LP And I'm very hesitant to throw the word
- 12:41perfect around, but God damn that first LP is enough.
- 12:47I mean I mean I'm gonna tag the wordperfect to it but I'm I
- 12:54don't know that I can say the full sentence so you know, you
- 12:57do the math. But yeah, I got a ton of that
- 13:01first one but still found a. I still found that the other two
- 13:07LPS in The EPS that that we added, they're all great.
- 13:11You know, there's just something.
- 13:13You know, we talk about like the Nostalgia of that first record
- 13:16without having been there. Like there's a, there's a
- 13:19feeling of, I know this there's a feeling of warmth and coziness
- 13:24to that first record that I could not, I couldn't get away
- 13:27from. So, now again, there's this
- 13:31becomes a little bit easier as it ends up.
- 13:34You know, you hate how it came down to only three people But
- 13:38you know, five-person panel even with 15 songs is going to be
- 13:41kind of difficult. John, what do you think for the
- 13:44final say how many do you think we're going to get through
- 13:45unanimously? You know, I think I'm gonna, I'm
- 13:49gonna go with a pretty bold number because like we've only
- 13:52got thirty two songs. I think I'm going to say seven.
- 13:57All right. All right, I like it.
- 14:00What do you think cord? Um, I'm also going to be
- 14:03optimistic, but I'm hanging a little more in the middle.
- 14:06I'm feeling five. Okay.
- 14:10Oh boy. Everybody always does this to
- 14:13me. I should start going.
- 14:14I should start going first so I can show, I can take my number
- 14:19man, where do I? So seven was my inclination.
- 14:23Do I split the difference and go six.
- 14:26Go a little bit more optimistic than chord, A Little Less
- 14:28optimistic than John or do I go full-on optimistic and take it
- 14:33up to the 8th. Is the question.
- 14:36I feel like because for does seem too low.
- 14:40I think I'm gonna go six. I'll split the difference that
- 14:43way. We've got five six, seven right
- 14:44in a row. All right, so we're going to
- 14:47take a quick pause and when we come back, we're going to play
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- 15:34game is deprogram, the three of us have combed through the
- 15:37American Football discography easy for me to say and plucked
- 15:40out 15 songs that we're now going to mesh together in an
- 15:42attempt to create a top 10 starter kit for you, in case you
- 15:45have never listened it to American football.
- 15:48And you know I mentioned this on the Modest Mouse episode
- 15:51yesterday. I've tried to shy away from this
- 15:54play because it's very it's very Justin but there is nothing I
- 15:58love more than when I push play on the first track and Knowing
- 16:03exactly what to expect from the band.
- 16:05So I'm going with never meant solutely.
- 16:09Yep. Yeah, man, you can't not have
- 16:12never meant like, it just It sets you up for everything,
- 16:20you're about to get and this to the turn down now, okay?
- 16:27I mean there it is right there. Right there, playful guitars
- 16:34that warmth. There is this Nostalgia to it.
- 16:45All right. That's the sound.
- 16:49You're going to hear a lot tonight gents.
- 16:51I'm going to yeah. I'm going to do a lot of em.
- 16:55All right. John I'm just going to keep
- 16:58going straight down the line, the summer ends.
- 17:01Yeah, man. Yep.
- 17:06Yes, I mean again you're going to hit play a lot here and
- 17:11you're going to know immediately.
- 17:15I hate I hate being repetitive. I easily could have taken the
- 17:19first record and called it a day.
- 17:20Sure. Yeah.
- 17:22I mean it just it is it's it's perfect like it's it's
- 17:27everything you want from this band.
- 17:29So it's worth your time doing the whole discography.
- 17:35Yeah, for sure. But if you're unsure, just
- 17:38listen to this first LP and I promise you, you'll want to
- 17:40listen, listen to the rest. All right, chord.
- 17:46I guess I'll go with all. I'll keep on the trend and play
- 17:49honestly. Yep, that was number 16.
- 17:55Oh okay. All right, it was bound to
- 17:57happen. It was bound to happen.
- 18:02All right, it's got to though. So it's still there.
- 18:04Um, all right. Maybe I'll stay on this first
- 18:09record. Yeah, I'm going to say on the
- 18:12first record because I got a couple more here.
- 18:14I'll see you when we're both not so emotional.
- 18:18I did not have that one. No.
- 18:29That one may be a the title just being too much.
- 18:33Yeah, you know what's funny is? I don't I almost took it out
- 18:37because I transfer it from my Spotify list to my notebook here
- 18:44and I'm writing and I'm like I'm still riding this one song.
- 18:46What the hell? So yeah I get that.
- 18:50All right, John Let's go to the third record and this one stuck
- 18:57out to me because it sounds like sunny day real estate like the
- 19:01how it feels to be something on era.
- 19:03Let's go Silhouettes. I did not have that one man.
- 19:08No me neither. All right, I think if I had to
- 19:15guess that was 16, but it absolutely was one of those 19.
- 19:20Oh, and this is gonna be another.
- 19:24This is going to be another one of those bands where I don't
- 19:27have a reason. Yeah.
- 19:29No, sorry. All right.
- 19:34Gord. Um, I'm gonna go LP 2 and play.
- 19:40My instincts are the enemy Yes. I couldn't read my own
- 19:47handwriting. Yes, I have.
- 19:48That one is high. There we go.
- 19:52There we go. God, that riff that paws, like,
- 20:00amigo. Oh God, that I heard this in
- 20:05like as I was coming back around for my second like to make the
- 20:10cuts. It's like, why did I keep this?
- 20:11And then that pause hits. I wasn't, that's why.
- 20:15Yeah, it just it makes that riff so much.
- 20:20Not bigger but like, I don't know how to describe it.
- 20:25It just made me go. It literally was heart-stopping.
- 20:29Yeah. Oh, fucking pretty.
- 20:35Okay. All right.
- 20:38Where we at RD3, right? Yep, um-hmm.
- 20:52How about where are we now? Nope, yes.
- 20:58Okay, saved the conversation is just going to be all the
- 21:03question marks on its, the question marks that threw us
- 21:08off. All right, John let's stick with
- 21:15with lp3, how about a doom in full bloom?
- 21:20No. I know, LP, I know LP one is the
- 21:27classic in good that lp3 is may be right behind it from you.
- 21:31I enjoyed that one a lot. I can't argue like, I don't.
- 21:35Yeah you know I've got a couple from that album.
- 21:37We're just not hitting the same songs.
- 21:39Yeah I think I think that's the that's gonna be the thing.
- 21:42Well I've got more so we'll see ya.
- 21:46All right Court. Okay, well if we're if we're
- 21:49going lp3 how about uncomfortably numb.
- 21:55Yes, I got with your girl Hayley Williams on the track.
- 21:59I mean, normally that would be a not let that would be a No-No
- 22:03for me. Like, especially with a
- 22:05discography. This small, I wouldn't have to
- 22:07keep it out, but I love Haley and hearing her with them.
- 22:14It just worked on this level that a lot of the I'm not going
- 22:19to be able to explain a lot of this, but it worked on this
- 22:22level that that I just I can't explain and I just I loved
- 22:26hearing her with this music. So yeah.
- 22:31See, she does nothing for me and then I really don't like the
- 22:34Pink Floyd song, Comfortably Numb, so that I remember he was
- 22:37comes down for me. All right.
- 22:42Um, so back around me, huh? But I stay on that record with
- 22:50y'all about life support. Nope, yes.
- 22:56All right. Are we like out of ntp already
- 23:04know? I don't think so.
- 23:05No no, no it just feels like it because I mean almost everything
- 23:10was hit. All right, John.
- 23:13All right. Let's go back to lp1.
- 23:16How about stay home? Absolutely.
- 23:19Yes, yes, eight minutes. Yeah, eight minutes and every
- 23:23second is perfect. Hmm.
- 23:26Ah, again as I was listening to it before like I had thought I
- 23:33cut it, as I was listening to it and I'm like because again you
- 23:37mentioned eight minutes like normally that's a No-No like
- 23:40especially if there's some their songs like in that for three and
- 23:44a half four minute range, where I feel like you can do it but
- 23:47like if you want what this band is, I could make a case that
- 23:55this is the one. I don't know that it is.
- 23:57We'll get there. I could absolutely make this the
- 24:00case because yeah you should you should listen to this beautiful
- 24:06song for fucking 8 minutes. You should or you'll get a
- 24:10chance to make that case. Yeah yeah.
- 24:14All right, so stay home was John Court.
- 24:19Um, let's give the EP some love. I'm going to play letters and
- 24:24packages. Yes, yes.
- 24:29No. I think that was the one I was
- 24:32jamming out to you, when you came.
- 24:33Yeah, I was gonna say maybe cheating a little bit because
- 24:35you were definitely listening to that when I came in.
- 24:38I mean, I was just listening to everything in a row, so yeah.
- 24:44Wow. One, two, three, four.
- 24:47I'm only got five left. I mean, we might as well just
- 24:50keep going. We're still, we're still playing
- 24:52well. How about?
- 25:00Born to lose. No, no.
- 25:05All right because I said we're playing so well. all right, John
- 25:23Let's go back up III. How about Heir Apparent?
- 25:27Yes. No There's a really cool.
- 25:33They did a tiny desk session and the version of Heir Apparent on
- 25:39Tiny desk is super cool because they actually bring in like a
- 25:41children's choir for the end. Hmm, we are officially out of
- 25:48ntp as well. Officially official, all right,
- 25:53so are parent was Johnny cord. Um, go back to LP to, I'm going
- 26:01to play a song that's kind of out of character, but very, it's
- 26:06kind of fun. Desire gets in the way.
- 26:09No, no. Yeah, it was kind of a reach.
- 26:18I mean you say that but like as I'm listening to it on, what is
- 26:22it? That opening riff is so fun.
- 26:25Yeah, I guess maybe that would be like Maybe that's what took
- 26:32it out of the running for me. I don't know.
- 26:35I honestly don't have have an answer.
- 26:38Let me stay right there with you, though.
- 26:39How about everyone is dressed up?
- 26:43Nope. Nope, you are right with me also
- 26:47in the trash. All right, John How about the
- 26:58one with the Wurlitzer? You know yes sir again I didn't
- 27:04want to because it's it's it's a instrumental.
- 27:12Yeah. But when the instrumentals that
- 27:15good, it is so good. Then yes, I will get behind that
- 27:20one. Also that is the only song that
- 27:23somebody answered with Chris Lewinsky who has done a lot with
- 27:27you John. Yeah.
- 27:29Yeah. I've only got two left.
- 27:32All right cord. Um well let's keep with the same
- 27:37theme, the one with the tambourine.
- 27:42I know for a fact that was like 17 or 18.
- 27:45No. Yeah, bummer Just bums me out
- 27:53when I don't have with an answer to to tell you why, all right?
- 27:58I've only got the two left, so I'm just keep going.
- 28:01Give me the gun. Yes.
- 28:05No. I mean, at least this is, I
- 28:10mean, we're not we're not getting a ton of Unanimous.
- 28:17But like, at least, it's not like painful.
- 28:20Yeah. All right, John All right, my
- 28:25last one from from LP 1, but the regrets are killing me.
- 28:30No, I mean it's all in the title.
- 28:36It's all in the title, should have known help.
- 28:40Again, this is one of those songs that was listen to like
- 28:43beforehand. Those like do I really not have
- 28:45this one? I don't like you said I don't
- 28:53have a good reason just it just happened.
- 28:55That way. I know I have to hear it and be
- 28:57heard about it. All right, Court. um, I'm gonna
- 29:07play how about home is where the haunt is.
- 29:12Hmm. Nope, this one gave me Big O and
- 29:17Vibes like very similar to Mike conselho solo stuff, which I'm
- 29:22in love with was that one of the ones that I think they we got to
- 29:25talk about. We didn't talk about this at the
- 29:27beginning even though I'm into, we got to talk about their
- 29:29videos where they always have like random people playing them
- 29:34as the bandits never them. It's always like be like three
- 29:38Asian guys or two girls and a kid and Like it's it's they
- 29:43always they never are in their own videos as themselves.
- 29:46They always have like other people playing them in the band
- 29:49is very very cool way to do that.
- 29:51I think I need to clarify to I think of the beginning I said it
- 29:55was Nick and Sally who played drums and cam Jazz?
- 29:57It was my kinsella, you're right who know how to do.
- 29:59Yeah, own and things like that. So I almost forgot to do.
- 30:03But I didn't, I didn't want to be pedantic know you.
- 30:05You should have thank you. All right, so this is my last
- 30:10one I'm done. After this, rare symmetry Nope,
- 30:18I hate to send you out on it on the trash, but don't have that
- 30:21lamp. We started off strong and then
- 30:25fell off. Yeah, I mean, we just, we had a
- 30:28lot of, a lot of. I mean, there's a lot of want.
- 30:30There's a lot of everything. So yeah.
- 30:32All right, John. Should I just jump out?
- 30:35Yeah. All right, all right Court.
- 30:38I've got I've been so lost for so long.
- 30:41No, I need a drink or two or three know.
- 30:46Every wave to ever rise. No, and mine to miss now man.
- 30:55We're going to cover everything. We cover everything.
- 30:59All right. Whatever you got left.
- 31:01I mean just for fun cord. All right, I had five silent
- 31:04miles so. Yes, I did.
- 31:05Put the entire first EP on my list.
- 31:09I can't feel you from lp3 and then the Fade Into You cover was
- 31:13too good to me to not put the cover on.
- 31:16Because I know that was tough because that's it, it's a great
- 31:19song and it's a great cover, but he has didn't have room for it.
- 31:22Yeah, absolutely. I agree.
- 31:25All right. Well, what did, where did we
- 31:26land here for no final? Say, no final say I almost had
- 31:32it. I should have four fellow.
- 31:34I should have went with for. Yeah.
- 31:37But I will say this, eight got through on twos so we really
- 31:41don't. We only need to cut two songs.
- 31:43So yeah this isn't You know, I guess we'll see which ones are
- 31:48the ones that are alive. So here's the, here's a, the
- 31:52ones we got through unanimously, never meant the summer ends.
- 31:54Stay home, my instincts are the enemy.
- 31:58All right, so we got here, one, two, three, four, five, six,
- 32:01seven eight. Where does it start?
- 32:03So we've got honestly question. Mark, the one with the Wurlitzer
- 32:08letters and packages. Where are we now?
- 32:10Give me the gun uncomfortably numb, Heir Apparent.
- 32:15And Life support, is there anything?
- 32:17That's really kind of, you know, again, we only need to, we need
- 32:21to Cuts, or do you want to start making cases for songs?
- 32:24That should be in Jonna, I'll leave that up to you.
- 32:28Well, I want to, I want to cut uncomfortably numb because for
- 32:31the reasons that I stated earlier, I just yeah, it just
- 32:35rubs me the wrong way for for other reasons, than the actual
- 32:38song. But yeah, I would I would like
- 32:40to cut uncomfortably numb on principle now.
- 32:44I would I would put Fight here. But like I do feel like we can
- 32:48probably do this without that song as much as I liked it.
- 32:52I feel like we can do. Yeah, that that's my thing too.
- 32:55I think my only like slight argument for it is that I think
- 32:59a lot of people who haven't heard of this band would have
- 33:02their ears perk up a little bit. If they heard that Hayley
- 33:05Williams was on a song, they didn't know that's bad, it
- 33:07might, it might them might make them a little more inclined to
- 33:09check it out. But honestly, as far as like the
- 33:13actual music we have in the conversation, if we get rid of
- 33:15it, I'm I'm not going to be mad because it's all still wonderful
- 33:19and it's all like it's all American football doing exactly
- 33:23what they do best. Well they're not that you guys
- 33:25on the next cut about that. If we do this you guys can can
- 33:28figure out the next one. I won't fight you.
- 33:30So yeah, deal. Alright.
- 33:31And so, this is also the point where I'd like to point out, is
- 33:36a great idea, especially, with a load discogs, like this, take
- 33:39everything that we've said and put it into a playlist.
- 33:42Especially that song. If Hayley Williams, Is your
- 33:46girl. And you want to go and listen to
- 33:48that first to perk your ears up, as course, record said, and then
- 33:51listen to our list by all means. All right, so we're taking that
- 33:57out. We've got one other cut.
- 33:58So what do we? I feel like we don't really care
- 34:03about about album representation.
- 34:08Do we, I mean, it feels like It's available to get everything
- 34:16in there. So maybe, yeah, maybe we should.
- 34:19But yeah, I mean as long as we keep like letters and packages,
- 34:23that means we have one from the EP, right?
- 34:26And I would say, you know, and I did say I was going to stand as
- 34:28a little bit but I would say maybe keep Heir Apparent and
- 34:33life support. So that that so that op3 does
- 34:36have some representation. Yeah, for sure.
- 34:38Okay. So let's do that grab those real
- 34:42quick. And that way we can start like
- 34:45really really hot joining in on what we want.
- 34:50But yeah, keep life support, keep letters and packages.
- 34:52Keep Heir. Apparent, is it going to come
- 34:57down to the question mark songs? Maybe, I think for me, I had I
- 35:04look at the one with the Wurlitzer.
- 35:06I want to keep that because I feel like we need the
- 35:08representation of like American football.
- 35:11Also doing great. Instrumentals I also had given I
- 35:14had give me the gun. I was one of the two on that and
- 35:17I'm I'm pretty fine with letting that one go.
- 35:19Okay. All right, so then then we take
- 35:22honestly the one with the Wurlitzer where we now and then
- 35:26that completes our list. Yeah.
- 35:29That sound like a plan, everybody looks for and I like
- 35:32it. So let's do that.
- 35:33One to a three and then Out. And then, let's make sure that
- 35:39comes up to 10. Indeed, it does.
- 35:41All right, so we've got never meant the summer ends.
- 35:44Stay home. My instincts are the enemy
- 35:46letters and packages are apparent life support.
- 35:48Honestly, the one with the Wurlitzer, and where are we now
- 35:52now John based on those 10, which one is the one.
- 35:59Um, you know, before recording this, I probably would have said
- 36:03never meant but I think I, you know, I we talked about the song
- 36:07and you kind of talked about and I we all were kind of in
- 36:10agreement. I think stay home is probably
- 36:13the one that I would that I would pick.
- 36:15I'm going to go stay home. What are you thinking chord?
- 36:20I have a hard time arguing with that, like never meant is Like
- 36:25if you have heard an American football song, it's been never
- 36:29meant because it's almost like a meme at this point.
- 36:32So I feel like it might be on some people's Radars but like
- 36:36stay home is just like I don't know, it feels pretty bold to
- 36:42put an 8 minute song as our number one with a bullet, but
- 36:45like, I'm pretty confident in doing that, because stay home is
- 36:48so good, Plus freight is going to hate it.
- 36:51Oh, for sure. He will undoubtedly hit it.
- 36:54But I also, I would point out that, like, normally in eight
- 36:57minutes song, even one that I love is a slog, but this never
- 37:03feels like that, like it? No, no, it never have.
- 37:08I have stay home. Come on multiple playlists and
- 37:11it's never a song that comes on and I go, oh I don't want to
- 37:14listen to all eight minutes of this.
- 37:15I never skip a song, right? So like I don't know.
- 37:18I think I I think I agree. I think that's our one.
- 37:20Let's do it. Let's lock it up.
- 37:22Let's lock it up. All right, so stay home is our
- 37:28number one. Let me read this list, never
- 37:30meant the summer ends. My instincts are the enemy
- 37:33letters and packages are apparent.
- 37:35Like support. Honestly, the one with the
- 37:37Wurlitzer, and where are we now? Now, rounds out our 10, let's
- 37:41let stay home. Get a moment in the sun, you're
- 37:45not getting all eight minutes. Eight minutes to stay home, but
- 37:47we're going to let you play for a sec.
- 37:49I'll come on, it's short episode, let it play.
- 38:00This is so anti everything that a number one should be, but
- 38:05pocket Nails. What I want from them.
- 38:08Honestly, I think this is the most stoked I have ever been
- 38:11about a number one. This right here is is exactly
- 38:21like that familiarity. We're talking about like it's,
- 38:24yeah, I feel like I'm hanging out.
- 38:28I'm hanging out with friends, like in a cottage somewhere.
- 38:32Probably tonight. Yeah, no, that's exactly it.
- 38:35This song has accompanied me on so many, like, late night
- 38:39drives, God man, and he hasn't even like gotten to it yet.
- 38:45Like oh yeah, put a put on that. Start that first record at like,
- 38:501:30 in the morning and and you'll have you'll have an
- 38:53experience. Yeah, and that we gotta, at
- 38:58least let this play until it really kicks in.
- 39:00Oh yeah, their main riff. Man, it's just so much fun World
- 39:06building in song building. Yeah.
- 39:19A minute and a half in and I'm not bored.
- 39:22Yeah. Look like, Know by now I'm
- 39:27skipping ahead. I'm like, okay, let's get to the
- 39:30point. This is the point, I guess.
- 39:32Yeah. Is the point we're making here.
- 39:34This is the point. Yeah, I'm all about, like, in my
- 39:41as like, a personal philosophy, slowing down to like enjoy the
- 39:45little moments and I feel like this is that in song form.
- 39:48Fuck yeah. And it just so happens to be
- 39:54called, stay home. Crazy how that works.
- 40:05I'm gonna get popped for this one.
- 40:08Two and a half minutes. I will tell you just just to
- 40:14have a little story over this, pretty instrumental.
- 40:16I have a very like sentimental attachment to this song because
- 40:21I used to put this record on. And usually this song on my way
- 40:25home from shows at our local venue called the New Direction,
- 40:28which has since shut down. And so, I have many Memories of
- 40:34leaving shows at the New Direction and driving down
- 40:39University Ave. Don't like back to my apartment
- 40:41here in Fargo with this song on and just like being all
- 40:44sentimental about how cool the show was, have you been to
- 40:48Urbana to see the house you dive?
- 40:51It's on my bucket list to make, like the emo kid, pilgrimage to
- 40:54Urbana a new. We're going to talk about the
- 40:57house. Again, I had a feeling because
- 40:59we got here, they turned Fargo, you're not that far.
- 41:01Like you could do it in a day. Yeah.
- 41:04Yeah. I made a date.
- 41:06I made a trip to hold on a day trip but I drove all the way to
- 41:10Chicago recently so I know. It's doable.
- 41:14Yeah. Well, we have done it.
- 41:17We have got, we assure you, if this is your jam like Midwest
- 41:23team, I was your jam American football.
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