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Bootleg Kev - Bonus Episode - Top 50 NY MCs List, Pusha T VS Travis Scott & Ranking Born Sinner, YEEZUS, & MAC Miller’s WMWTSO 12 years later · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, man bootlet keV here, I'm gonna start doing
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  Speaker 1: more videos like this where I talk about just what's
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: going on in hip hop in like a non toxic way,
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: as non toxic as possible, to be honest. But with
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  Speaker 1: that being said, I wanted to talk about a few things,
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  Speaker 1: one of which there is this New York rapper list
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  Speaker 1: that came out on Complex. From what I understand, this
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  Speaker 1: list is from twenty twenty three, but it's just gone
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  Speaker 1: viral again, and I think it is egregious.
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  Speaker 2: The list. If we look at it, they have jay Z.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, Biggie number two, NAS number three, rock Him
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  Speaker 1: number four, ll cool J's five fifty cents six, Nikki
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  Speaker 1: is seven, DMX is eight, Bustin Rhymes is nine, and
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  Speaker 1: Keras one is ten, and then you keep going throughout
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  Speaker 1: the list, and you know, I think that there's some
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  Speaker 1: people on this list that are misplaced, and there's also
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  Speaker 1: some Peo on this list that's just an absolute atrocity
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  Speaker 1: that they're on it. Obviously, if this list is from
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, having didi at number forty eight, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I also would like to point out having Didiya as
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  Speaker 1: number forty eight is insane period. I Spice should not
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: be on this list. Pop Smoke's really high. We could
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  Speaker 1: get into it. But I'm going to also say, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: look love the biz Marquis, but biz Marquis was not
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  Speaker 1: really known as much as an mc is more if
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  Speaker 1: he was as an entertainer. But I did put together
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: a list of some of my I'm going to say,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give five people, and there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of honorable mentions here, but I want to give my
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  Speaker 1: legit five that were snubbed from this list, all right,
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  Speaker 1: and my number one draft pick as too far as
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: who was snubbed from this list, Lloyd Banks. The Lloyd
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  Speaker 1: Banks disrespect has got to stop. This is one third
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  Speaker 1: of one of the most powerful groups in hip hop history.
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  Speaker 1: On his own as classic mixtapes, he's got an incredible
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  Speaker 1: discography of albums.
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  Speaker 2: And he's been on an insane run.
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  Speaker 1: Over the last decade of I would say the last
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  Speaker 1: five years of dropping incredible bodies of work independently that
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  Speaker 1: always get overlooked. But if we're not putting Lloyd Banks
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  Speaker 1: in the top fifty New York rappers of all time, like,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing? This is the punchline, King,
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  Speaker 1: you cannot have bizmarckuy Ice Spice.
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  Speaker 2: You know, no disrespect to Jimmy.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jimmy deserves to be on this list, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think deserves to be on this list. Over
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks, I don't think you know what do we again?
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks has to be on this list, So that
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  Speaker 1: would be my number one snub that I would add
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  Speaker 1: into this list. And what I noticed about this list
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  Speaker 1: there are mcs on this list who aren't technically from
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  Speaker 1: New York City. For example, at number twenty, Slick Rick
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  Speaker 1: is on the list who deserves to be on this list,
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  Speaker 1: but he is from the UK. So I also, as
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  Speaker 1: a draft pick my number two top fifty MC in
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  Speaker 1: New York history, though not originally from New York. I
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  Speaker 1: think we can all agree New York is whom this
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  Speaker 1: artist is most heavily affiliated with. When we think about
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: him and his partner DJ Premier and Gang Star, I'm
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: talking about Guru, one of the most distinct voices in
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  Speaker 1: hip hop history. As a group, Gang Stars discography is
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  Speaker 1: all time.
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  Speaker 2: It's on the mantle. Again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at this list and I just can't imagine
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  Speaker 1: not having Guru on a lie that includes Ice, Spice
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  Speaker 1: and Cardi B. And that's no shade to Cardi because
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  Speaker 1: I think Cardi deserves to be on this list as well.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, So that's my second. So now we're kind
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  Speaker 1: of getting into an interesting place here with I have
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  Speaker 1: a list because I want to go through my honorable
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: mentions because I do think there's members of Wu Tang
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  Speaker 1: that deserve to be on this list that aren't. I
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  Speaker 1: actually would put Inspected Deck on this list above ODB.
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  Speaker 1: I think Inspected Deck has two of the greatest verses
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  Speaker 1: in hip hop history, triumph Uh and Above the Clouds
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  Speaker 1: the Gang Star feature. Those are two of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: verses ever. And I just think what he's done with
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  Speaker 1: his new group and Inspected Deck has to be. If
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: you're gonna put ODB, you gotta put Inspected Deck. With
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: that being said, I'm not picking Inspected Deck as my
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: little Wu Tang tangent. I am gonna go though. I
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  Speaker 1: feel fel like I'm going super old school on a
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: lot of these, but this is a newer pick. You
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  Speaker 1: cannot have the fifty greatest rappers in New York history
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  Speaker 1: and not have Joey Badass. Why is Joey Badassing on
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  Speaker 1: this list? Even if this list was made in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, How are we not including Joey Badass on
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  Speaker 1: this list?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this list has a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what are we doing if Joey Badass
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  Speaker 1: is on the list that you're including or you're not
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  Speaker 1: including him, but you're including somebody like, you know, fucking again,
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: let's let's talk about fucking bismarcky like Joey Badass as
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  Speaker 1: an MC. Why do we have Bizmarqui on the list
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  Speaker 1: if we don't have Joey Badass in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: before we knew Diddy was Didlin? Why the fuck would
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  Speaker 1: you have Diddy on this list if we don't have
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  Speaker 1: Joey Badass So that's three.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta go oh.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, this is tough because I'm gonna tip pick two
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  Speaker 1: more that I feel like we're the biggest snubs that
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: we should do a little Swapperoni on MM. People won't
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  Speaker 1: like this, but we're talking about now ten.
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  Speaker 2: Fifteen year run French Montana.
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  Speaker 1: I know that a lot it's popular to hate on
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  Speaker 1: French Montana, but french Montana was, you know, besides Nicky
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  Speaker 1: asap mob French was the only guy out of New
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  Speaker 1: York putting hits on the board for a serious amount
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  Speaker 1: of time. French is probably the only guy if you
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  Speaker 1: go to a nightclub in the South, or you go
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  Speaker 1: to a nightclub on the West Coast, that you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: hear a New York record being I mean, because we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about pop French Montana Pop. That's one of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest club songs of all time. I just think you
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  Speaker 1: gotta have French on this list. If you're gonna go fifty,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta have French on the list. And if I
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  Speaker 1: had to pick one more, it's tough. It's damn.
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  Speaker 2: It's really really tough.
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  Speaker 1: Because I have a few on here that I feel
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  Speaker 1: like if I were to make this list that all
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  Speaker 1: these names that I have kind of set aside would
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  Speaker 1: be up there. I'm going right now, I'm contemplating between
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  Speaker 1: teleb Quality and A Z and I'm gonna go with.
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  Speaker 1: If I had to pick five, I'm gonna go with
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  Speaker 1: Azy Life's of Bitch. What are we talking about? Sugar
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  Speaker 1: Hill or die It was? It was a hard decision,
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  Speaker 1: but those are my five. Let's go through the honorable mentions. Obviously,
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: Teli Kwali. I have Joel Santana as an honorable mention.
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  Speaker 1: I also have Immortal Technique as an honorable mention. I
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  Speaker 1: have Action Bronson as an honorable mention. And what I
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  Speaker 1: noticed about this list is it said New York. It
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  Speaker 1: didn't say New York City. So I do think it
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: is an atrocity not to include the guys from Griselda
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  Speaker 1: somewhere on this list.
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  Speaker 2: And by the guys, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I really think you can't go wrong with picking
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  Speaker 1: any one of the three, but for me, it's Conway.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if I'm looking at this list too,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to kind of judge who's egregiously misplaced.
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  Speaker 1: Pharaoh Manch at number forty nine is a fucking joke,
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  Speaker 1: so Pharaoh mant should be a lot higher. I also
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  Speaker 1: think that if you're looking at this list, man Jada
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  Speaker 1: Kiss at sixteen just feels wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It feels fucked.
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  Speaker 1: And I gotta say one more other honorable mention. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: two more other honorable mentions that I actually had just
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  Speaker 1: thought about in my head. Five Dog from a tribe
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  Speaker 1: called Quest and Havoc Havoc from Mob Deep. Obviously, Prodigy
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  Speaker 1: gets all the flowers of the MC. But come on, guys,
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  Speaker 1: Havoc is a fucking incredible MC. I feel like this
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  Speaker 1: number eleven, instead of putting Prodigy, you just put Mob
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  Speaker 1: Deep put the fucking group.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I also feel like, when we're talking about five, what
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  Speaker 1: do we say, like Tribe called Quest to me is
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  Speaker 1: the third greatest rap group of all time and fucking
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: Fife Dog five Dog. For fuck's sake, let's put Fife
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  Speaker 1: on the list. So that's what I'll say. If I
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  Speaker 1: had to take I'm not even gonna say who which
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  Speaker 1: five I would take off? I kind of said earlier,
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  Speaker 1: but if I mean, if if you had to take
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  Speaker 1: five off.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't even get all the way into that.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, I'm taking biz Mark off, I Spice off.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'll say. But that is this New York
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  Speaker 1: list how I see it. Who was snubbed, the five
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  Speaker 1: artists who I would put on the list that are
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  Speaker 1: not currently on the list, and some of my honorable
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  Speaker 1: mentions anyway, shout out to Complex or making this list
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: still rage bait. Two and a half years later, however,
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: long it was also very random that they censored Fat Joe.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Why the fuck doesn't matter? If his name's fat, Joe
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  Speaker 1: is fat. I mean, I don't know. Anyway, I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to keep it moving because there's so much going on
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: in hip hop right now, specifically push a T and
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: the Clips are dropping a new album.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys know anything about me, I do always
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  Speaker 1: keep a Clips album on the wall behind me. Lord Willing,
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: I got assigned by Pusher T. I still need Mouse
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  Speaker 1: to sign it. But this past week, the record so
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: Be It came out with uh push a T. Initially
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people thought Pusha T was talking about
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  Speaker 1: Kanye West on this verse. Well, he did an interview
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  Speaker 1: with GQ and he cleared that up. He was really really,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, coming for Travis Scott's head on this record.
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  Speaker 1: So Jesus Christ. First of all, I gotta say something.
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  Speaker 1: The rollout for this Clips album has been fucking incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Between as Trumpets and so Be It, it feels like
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  Speaker 1: an Album of the Year contender.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say this. I am a huge push
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  Speaker 2: A T. Fan. I am a huge Travis Scott fan.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: I enjoy both of their music on a on a
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  Speaker 1: level that is you know, I would say that I
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: would I would be there. P one in radio we
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: always kind of say, like, you know, you got to
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: talk to your p one. That's the people who are
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: like super loyalty, like when it comes to Push T
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: in the clips like Jesus Christ like, they're probably my
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: second or third favorite rap group of all time, and
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: Push a T is one of my favorite mcs ever.
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  Speaker 1: I have him on my all time list in the
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  Speaker 1: top ten, which a lot of people wouldn't have.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, actually went viral.
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  Speaker 1: Because me and Jim Jones debated about this was on
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: the Rap Caviar podcast. We debated about Push a Ta
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: being included in the top fifty MC list of all time.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: He said he didn't deserve to be in there. I
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: fucking lost my mind. You could probably pull that up
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: on Silence you can kind of see it. But and
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: I also really really love Travis. I think Travis makes
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: amazing bodies of work. With that being said, I guess
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: the issue at hand feels like a semi valid one
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: if you think about some of the moves maybe over
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: the years Travis has made. You know, when Travis first
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: came into the game, Mahammie lifted. It is the guy
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: who made Mercy a producer for Phoenix. I remember before
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Al Faraoh dropped, Lifted was telling me about Travis very
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: early on, because Travis is around during those super I
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: guess what year was Mercy. I was living in Vegas
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: when Mercy came out, so that was probably twenty eleven
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: or twelve. With that being said, I was hip to
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Travis pretty early, and then when Al Faroh dropped, I
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: fucked with Al Faraoh. We played a few records on
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: my underground hip hop show off at Al Faraoh. When
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: we think of Travis, I think of Good Music and
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Grand Hustle initially, because I think a lot of people
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: forget that Travis was signed a TI and Kanye.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: There was kind of like this.
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  Speaker 1: Marriage of the two, you know, OG's kind of putting
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: on this young kid. So Travis very much a part
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: of the Good Music family certain point in time in
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  Speaker 1: his career, quite literally a part of Kanye's family. And
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: with that being said, you know, Pusha T was the
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: president of Good Music from twenty fifteen until recently, so
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  Speaker 1: push A T does have a relationship with Travis and
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: has had a front row seat to probably some of
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  Speaker 1: Travis's low points emotionally.
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  Speaker 2: Et cetera. So I could understand if you're push and you.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Have Travis pull up on you to play Utopia with
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Pharrell in the room. Now, it's been debated whether or
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: not Drake had dropped his verse for Meltdown yet, where
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: he talked about melting down Urell's chains. But either way,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I think the point at hand is if we're close
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  Speaker 1: enough for you to come into the studio with us
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  Speaker 1: and play is your album, and then that the version
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: of the album you play does not include the Drake verse,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: whether it was laid yet or not. Now, obviously, if
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: it was late already, that's just straight up fucking some
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: host shit, some fucked up shit.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Right. According to academics, it hadn't been laid yet.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: But I do believe push A t said the next
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: day or it was that same week that the song
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: came out and they heard it. So you know, we're
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: not too sure about the timeline. But I would say,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: if you're Travis and you value your relationship with Pharrell,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: and you value your relationship with push A Te whom
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: which you just sat in the studio with and brought
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you a Utopia suitcase to to play this fucking album,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: at the very least, you would think that you should
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: have a conversation with Pharrell and Push. It's at least
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: a phone call, right, Hey, guys, I know I just
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: played you the album just so you know, the same
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: guy whom which I have sicko mode with. Just really
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: just drop the verse on the song Meltdown and you're
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: there's a shot towards you. How do you guys feel
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: about it? It's just to me, that's just kind of
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the polite thing to do, it seems. I mean, the
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: one thing I say that about Push is Push don't
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  Speaker 1: give a fuck.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: There was a clip of him talking about how when
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Drake would come and work with Kanye when they were
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: in Wyoming, he couldn't be there because he's like, I
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: don't fucking play that shit Like I don't. I don't
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: play the politics. I don't care who you are. If
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: if it's up, it's up. And also let's point out
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: that pusha T is Kendrick Lamar is not the first
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: person to beat Drake in a rap battle. That's all
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I'll say. Push a T story of added on silenced
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Drake like it, I mean, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So Travis Scott, I'm sure he'll address it, but I
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  Speaker 1: do think this brings us to another more interesting conversation,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and that would be if you were to take and
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I would like to preface this conversation by saying, if
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you were to take everything that both of these men
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: are part of, Travis over here, Push A T, the
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Clips over here, I think Push A T and the
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  Speaker 1: music he's been a part of. If you take the Clips,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: his discography and his solo discography, I think Travis Scott
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: gets decimated in that debate because I think the Clips
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: have two classic albums. I think Lord Willing and Hell
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Hath No Fury are classics. And I love, absolutely Love
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Till the Casket drops. It's a fucking damn good project.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And then the Reap Gang shit.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't even got to get into the Clips
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  Speaker 2: mixtapes Jesus. So let's let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take all that aside, because I just said, if
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I were to take Push A T and everything the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Clips was on, like all the Clips albums, I think
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Push the T washes Travis scott discography to discography. I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: don't even think it's fucking a discussion. And I love
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Travis Scott's discography, but let's throw all the Clips albums
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  Speaker 1: out the window, and let's just have this discussion.
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  Speaker 2: Push A T.
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  Speaker 1: Solo shit, Travis Scott's solo shit. So let's look at
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: these albums because I will say, in my opinion, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: this doesn't mean that pushes discography is better, but I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: do think between both of their bodies of work, Daytona
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  Speaker 1: is the best album. So if you took all Travis's albums,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you took all PUSHA T's albums. I do think Push
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: A T. Daytona is the best album out of everything.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: But let's go album for album, all right, I want
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to go, are we starting with uh?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Are we starting with Rodeo? Or Days Before Rodeo? Because
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Days Before Rodeo is on DSPs.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Now it's probably SSS Rodeo first, right, Oh, I gotta say,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I think Days Before Rodeo might be my second favorite track.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so it's four for four. M Okay, we'll do
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  Speaker 2: four four V four.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, Okay, astral World, Utopia, Birds in the
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  Speaker 1: Traps Scene, McKnight, and Rodeo and then let me see
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you Push the T Ship.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost dry Daytona. Uh, I'm gonna go.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: The best album between both of their discographies is Daytona,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: But god damn it, man, I think Travis Scott, Astro World,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Birds in the Trap Scene, McKnight, It'stopia, Rodeo. If you're
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: just talking solo work, it's fucking close. Go back to Push.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: It's discography again. It's almost dry, so fucking good too. Man. Oh,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Daytona's the best album. I think It's almost Dry as
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: his second best album. I think King Push is number three.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: My Name Is My Name is number four. Now, if
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: we're ranking all of these albums, I think Daytona is
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: number one, then I think you gotta go Astro World
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: as number two. Fucking incredible album. It's a perfect album,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: just like Daytona is. Then things can get interesting. I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't the craziest Utopia fan. I love Rodeo though. I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: gonna put Rodeo at number three, and then number four.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put It's Almost Dry at number five. I'm
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: gonna put Birds in the Traps Scene McKnight, and then
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: i'm gonna put Utopia, and then I'll put King Push
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and my Name Is my Name. So I think that
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: that's a fair If we just go solo artists a
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: solo artists and there's not a bigger push a t
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: fan you'll find. I think Travis got him on the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: total discography.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Even though it's close.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I think once you enter the Clips into the conversation,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it's I mean, Travis gets destroyed for the sake of fun.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Let's put the Clips albums. Let's do the same countdown
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: we just did. All right, So if we're to do
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: this but include the Clips, it's gonna be ugly because
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I would go, Hell hath No Fury is number one.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I would go Daytonas number two. I would go Lord
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Willin is number three. Then I would go astral World,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: then I would go Rodeo, Then I.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Would go.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Till the Casket drops, and then the rest of the
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: list we already talked about earlier. So if you were
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to combine both Clips and Push your Tea together, it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a wash.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: But if we're just talking just solo shit, it's close.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I give the edge of Edgeter Travis shout out to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Push your Tea for fucking putting this shit on Wax.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: One of the greatest of all time. Cannot wait for
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: this new Clips album. I'm hearing it as a classic.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Uh So shout out to them, shout out to Push,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: out to Travis Scott, A shout out to the Clips.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I've probably spent like fucking four hundred dollars on Clips
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: t shirts since they've been dropping their merkout. They just
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: dropped a whole new collection of fucking merch. Shot to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the Clips. Looking forward to that album. It's coming out
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: July eleventh. All right. Another good thing today was June eighteenth.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And when I think back to June eighteenth, twenty thirteen,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that's twelve years ago. That's probably I mean, one of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the last days. I went to a record store, spent
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: a bunch of money, and was super excited because Kanye
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: West dropped Easis, Mac Miller dropped Watching Movie with the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Sounds Off, and Jay Cole dropped his sophomore album Or
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in Center.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: About all three, I loved All three.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of an interesting time period in
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: hip hop because.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: You know, it's.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Towards the end of the blog era, but not quite yet.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: You know that Piff's still around, live mixtapes is still around,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and people were still going to the store to buy music.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I bought my shit at Zea Records in Phoenix and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about just Kanye Man for a second,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: because when this album came out, the buzz was so crazy.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I remember he was doing these screenings listening sessions, if
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you will, all across the country for Jesus, and I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: remember he did one in Phoenix and we watched it
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: somewhere downtown. They like projected the album onto a wall,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and I remember kind of being thrown off. I was
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: super thrown off by Jesus when I first heard it
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: as like a crazy Kanye fan.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I was just very like, this is different.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: It's probably Kanye's first or second most polarizing album of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the good stuff. So we got to be very clear
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: when I say of the good stuff, because I feel like.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Jesus, uh, it goes Jesus.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Life of Pablo Yay, and then things get hairy. You
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: get Jesus King. Donda was solid, and then anything after
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Donda we're just kind of like chalk up to like
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: unfinished Kanye that he puts out. But I would say
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: it's probably it's either Ato Eight's and Heartbreaks or Jesus.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: When we think about polarizing, people either love these albums
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: or hated them. There wasn't a lot of people who
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: was like super in the middle of these two projects.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: So Jesus to me is very high and I did
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: not initially love Jesus.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: It took it probably took like two weeks for to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: really grow on me.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think back to what music sounded
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: like then and how much of a sonic risk Kanye
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: took on Jesus. And you know, we always hear about
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yay sampling people on certain albums, sampling people's vibes, having
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: people around. I think he sampled Kid Cuddy on Ato
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Wits and Heartbreaks, kind of sampled his sound, you know
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, kind of did kid cutty shit to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the highest degree. And I think on Yeesus, Uh, he
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: sampled Travis Scott and Mike Dean. I mean, Mike Dean
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: obviously handled a lot of the production on this album.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I think he've handled all of it, not like ninety
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: percent of it, But Travis Scott was around. You know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Travis Scott helped write on some of these records. And
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I think when you hear Yesus, it kind of makes
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Travis possible, you know, it makes Rodeo possible.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: It makes days before Rodeo possible. For that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And I think it's aged, I mean gracefully when we
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: think about you know, one of my favorite Kanye songs
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: ever is Blood.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: On the Leaves.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Such a fucking incredible record. I also think Black Skinhead.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Banger, fucking banger. Also, Black Skinhead might have been a
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: little uh.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: He was living the crumbs.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: He was eating some crumbs here, I mean new Slaves.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Hold my Liquors probably my second favorite song on this album,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Hold my Liquor at Chief keyf on it, which is
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: crazy because I remember being like, why the fuck is
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Chief Keef on this album? Fucking amazing. Of course, bound
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: To a lot of people like bound To, I'm not
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: as high as bound To as most people.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: That samples crazy, incredible sample and I'm in it. One
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: of the most aggressive sex songs ever.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: He said he'll put his fist in you like a
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: civil rights sign, and he was eating Asian pussy.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: All he needed was sweet and sour sauce. I love
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: this album.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I rank it very high in Kanye's discography, number three,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: to be specific. I got My Beautiful Dark twis the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Fantasy Late Registration then uses that's my top three Kanye albums.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Got It above Graduation, Got It above College Dropout, So
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I know that that's a hot take.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Do I got it above Cold drop Out?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe definitely got it about Graduation? Really, I think Graduation
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: is Kanye's most overrated album.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I like it. It's a classic, but I just think
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: people put it too high. I think Yes is better
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: than Graduation. All right.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: So then you go to the mc miller aspect of this.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Mc miller dropped Blue Slide Park, which was his first
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: like studio album. A lot of people didn't love this album.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Blue Slide Park had some shit on it, yeah, free, yeah,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: but I just don't think this. I remember Party on
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Fifth Ave was like this Rado single and it was
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: mac Miller's big coming out party. The problem is is
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you know when you had a mixtape like Kids Out
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and I think Macadelic might have was Macadelic Out before
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Blue Slide Part I don't remember.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: But I saw that. To say that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: This album watch a movie with the sound off is
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: if you're if you're just looking for hip hop from
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: mac Miller, I don't think there's an album that fucks
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Good Am might be one of them, but.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I think this is arguably the best album to come
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: out that day. Ah some of the features on this
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: album crazy absolute, Action Bronze and Red Dot music is
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite Action Bronson versus ever. You know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: bird Call was crazy.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I mean I think about just like school Boy Q
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and Mac Miller's insane chemistry and the rec and on
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: this album was just insane. And then this album too
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: came with a crazy tour. The tour that came from
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: this was uh.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I went to it a celebrity theater in Phoenix. Was
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Mac Miller.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I want to say the Internet and Chance the Rapper
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and Action Bronson. For sure, Chance and Action Bronson were
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: on the tour. I think the Internet was on this
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: tour too, but I think I was. This is top
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: two or three most fucking high I've been at a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: concert moment for me. I was fucked up off an edible.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I had dabbed backstage with Action Bronson. That's on YouTube somewhere.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I was fucking cooked and Mac Miller had a full band.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite concerts of all time and a
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: kind of a final homage to the Blog era. When
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I think of those three guys, Mac Miller, o g
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Blog Era guy, Action Bronson, Chance the Rapper. You know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Chance is probably the last great rapper to come out
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of the blog era. I mean, I might be wrong
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: about that, but in my in my brain, I think that.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: That tour is crazy because it was so some some
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: dates had a chance to wrapper the internet. Vince Staples, Oh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Vince was on the tour Earl Sweasher and Action Bronson. Yes,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: so that is there. Yeah, that is crazy.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And I was twacked. If you go on my YouTube channel,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you just look at blue Leg Action Bronson. There's like
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a video. Yes, so look, so I know that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: You recently started getting If you.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You can mute that, but you see the dab brig
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: in the background. So this dude to Action Bronson took
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: advantage of me backstage, and I don't mean that like
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I when I told him I had never died before,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: this guy's eyes lit up and he said, oh, you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: got a dab And then he's like, oh, now you
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: got to try a flavor.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So he made me take three dabs back to back
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to back.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: That's insane and I was fucking.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Twacked, bro Like this This is about as twacked as
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: an interview can get. And there's a few clips from
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: this interview, but yes, this was the night of the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: mac Miller watching movies with the sound off tour backstage
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Celebrity Theater.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely fucking twacked. Man, I was high as a motherfucker motherfucker.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, dude, you're a helly Scroll back because you
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: could probably see another clip where I'm like, nonetheless, what
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: a fucking tour that was? Go down, scroll down from
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the same it'd been maybe that h Yeah, let's see
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: if you can see how I am in this video.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Look me uploading minute, dude, I was fucking, I mean baked.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Get you.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what a day?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You see the fucking torch? What was this twenty thirteen? Yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: eleven years ago. Crazy times with the CM Punk shirt
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: for all you motherfuckers out there, see that CM Punk shirt,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the vintage. Anyway, we got a great tour from this album.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Also wanted we can't talk about tours coming from these
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: three albums that I've mentioned the Eyasest tour because I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: also think the easest tour of fuck, greatest concert ever
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: been to so with.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: The Mountain, the Mask, the merch.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: The merch was crazy, it was crazy. I got three shirts. Yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I still got them all. Yeah, I was on the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: floor for that show. I have the blue one when
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he's like looking down with the chain. Yeah that one too,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: one I got a bunch of them.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah uh yeah. That kind of changed merch too. Everything
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: that changed everything on the merch side.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So yesus and then Jake Cole. I think j Cole,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you know, one of the greatest of all time. And
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: there are certain people, you know, just like there's certain
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: people who say nas it was written as his best album,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who think that Born Center.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Is J Cole's best album over for Sails Drive.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I don't happen to be one of those people, but
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I do love this album.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: The Illuminati Land of the Snakes is crazy.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, of course the singles were so crazy, power
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Trip all that fucking but for Britain Fruit with Kendrick
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: was just amazing.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: The crazy thing too, is like this is during the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: time where like supposedly, I'm sure when this album is
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: getting recorded, at the same time, there's probably like real
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: work or discussions about this J Cole Kendrick project that
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: we're never ever gonna hear or get. I know that
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: they did some stuff, but you know it's up there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Are you more? Are you? You're a pretty big Jake
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Cole Fan Cook, our producer Cook is here.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, and then let Nas down. Jesus Christ. I
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: want to say this Deluxe was like one of the
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: last Like Deluxe, I actually went out and bought you
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: know so.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: And janet Iko's on here amazing, amazing, you could smile,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: such a great single.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Forbidden Fruit and Kendrick's verse on that, Oh my.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: God, insane.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: But I gotta so if we can rank these three
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: albums on any given day, I might change it. But
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I think Borne Center's number three, Mac Miller watching movie
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: with the sound off, Watching Movies with the sound Off
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: number two, and.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I'm really high on us this man, I got a
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: number one. Yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I still have a shrink wrapped brand new Kanye Use
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: this album sitting in my death somewhere.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I think, depending on the day for me, I could switch.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Between those between Mac Miller and Yeah for sure, for sure,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So shout out to all three of those albums.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I think it might be the last time I.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Spent a lot of money on music on one day.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I actually, I mean, obviously I bought some vinyl since then,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: but brand new releases, shit, the record store took all
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: my money.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: That fucking day Man, So.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: June eighteenth, great day for hip hop. We got some
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: good tours out of This Day Timeless music, and that's
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: how I ranked those three albums. Anyway, Hey, if you're
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: watching this, I'm gonna try to do more shit like
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: this on the channel. Honestly, I would like to try
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: to do a weekly But let me know your thoughts
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: if you guys like this vibe of video, because we
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: want to get away from just doing interviews, so that
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: way y'all can kind of get more of my take
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: on short and shit, especially when it comes to this
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: hip hop shit, you know. So yeah, leave a comment.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people are gonna argue about
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: me putting French Montana in my top fifty.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Come on, guys, or Jesus better than Mac Miller or
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you know whatever it is.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: But leave a comment with your thoughts and if you
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: want more shit like this, we'll be back, hopefully next week.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be the same format.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be shot here, might
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: be at my house, who fucking knows, But thank you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: for watching