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Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Network dot Com reporting on matters impacting us here in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. Welcome back, Jack Windsor. It's good
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  Speaker 1: to see you on the Zoom call and good to
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  Speaker 1: hear your voice here on the fifty five Krsey Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday to you man, Happy Friday, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Always an honor and a pleasure to be here with
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  Speaker 2: you and the KRC listeners.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we got choices when it comes to a secretary
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  Speaker 1: of State here, and we've got a primary coming up,
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  Speaker 1: and the choices are Marcel Sturbage and Robert Sprague. And
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  Speaker 1: Marcel's been on the program a couple of times. I've
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  Speaker 1: been very impressed by him. When you hear him talk,
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  Speaker 1: he is man, he is committed, he's on point, he's
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  Speaker 1: got on message. He comes across strong, very clear in
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  Speaker 1: his vision what he hopes to accomplish in the role
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  Speaker 1: in the office. His background is great, obviously, proudly served
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  Speaker 1: his country in the military. And I just go to
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  Speaker 1: Sturbridge for Ohio dot Com. You can find out for yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I asked Joe Strekker going into the conversation here this morning, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: if Robert Sprague has ever reached out to us or
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  Speaker 1: and Joe said that is a big no. And also
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  Speaker 1: there have been nothing but crickets in response to the
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  Speaker 1: outreach for us to have him on the program to
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  Speaker 1: hear what he's all about. So I find that rather strange.
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  Speaker 1: But having talked with Marcel, I can't find anything wrong
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  Speaker 1: with the man and his candidacy. So what's your take
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  Speaker 1: on Marcel? And it seems to me like it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those Republican parties sort of protecting one of its
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  Speaker 1: own entrenched members. Am I onto something with that statement?
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  Speaker 4: Jack?
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  Speaker 2: I think you're one hundred percent on to something. Brian,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, I have personally endorsed Marcel Sturbage for
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  Speaker 2: Secretary of State, and it was a real simple decision
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  Speaker 2: for me. I've had Marcell on my program for over
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  Speaker 2: the past couple of years, and he has been one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent accurate in his ability to assess where Ohio
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  Speaker 2: is with election integrity and what steps need to occur,
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  Speaker 2: and he has been talking about those steps, he has
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  Speaker 2: been working with the legislature to bring about those changes,
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  Speaker 2: and so when he decided to run for Secretary of State,
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  Speaker 2: it was an easy choice for me to get behind him. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I do want to say Robert Sprague has visited with
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  Speaker 2: me before, but that was back when he still wasn't
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  Speaker 2: sure if he was trying to get appointed to the
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  Speaker 2: US Senate, when Governor Dwine was trying to make his choice,
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  Speaker 2: and it was before he decided to run for governor,
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  Speaker 2: if you remember that. So it was, well, maybe I
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  Speaker 2: want to be in the Senate, maybe I want to
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  Speaker 2: be governor, and then eventually he settled on this Secretary
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  Speaker 2: of State role. I do want to say I think
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  Speaker 2: Robert Sprague is a good man. I think Robert Sprague
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  Speaker 2: is a prudent person, and I think that if he
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  Speaker 2: were in a position, he would do well. The challenge is,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's as good as his competitor for
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  Speaker 2: this specific role.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And that's kind of the conclusion I'm reaching in.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to think that for a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I've got some action to grind against Robert Sprague. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't recall talking to him. Joe said, if he
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  Speaker 1: was ever on the show, it was like maybe one time.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't expect anyone to necessarily come on the show.
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  Speaker 1: That's their prerogative. But I don't know enough about the
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  Speaker 1: man compared to Marcel to make that decision. So I
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  Speaker 1: guess I find myself in your Campjack with this now
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  Speaker 1: just look good?
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  Speaker 3: I no know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm being honest with my listeners.
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  Speaker 1: So now is the deck stacked against Marcel in the
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  Speaker 1: sense he doesn't have a shot. I mean, how's he
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  Speaker 1: looking as we headed under the primary?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, great question.
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  Speaker 4: His polling numbers look fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a controversy.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, he commissioned a poll, and he's the
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  Speaker 2: guy that many in the parties say can't raise the money. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he raised enough money to actually conduct a poll, and
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  Speaker 2: according to that poll, a huge number of people are undecided, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, should not be surprising. The Secretary of
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  Speaker 2: State race in a midterm election is not at the
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  Speaker 2: top of everyone's punch list to research. Generally, However, the
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  Speaker 2: people who had made a decision or thought they had
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  Speaker 2: made a decision, he is Marcel Sturbage.
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  Speaker 3: That is up by eight points.
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  Speaker 2: Now, when the voters were informed about his platform, his
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  Speaker 2: margin of victory spreads to forty seven points. So once
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  Speaker 2: they understand who he is and what he is, that
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  Speaker 2: number gets larger. Now, many people in the other Camps say, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's not a legitimate poll, and then Marcel points to
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the Republican Party has actually used this
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  Speaker 2: same outfit before spend one hundred thousand dollars getting other
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  Speaker 2: polls done. So one, I do think his message is resonating.
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  Speaker 2: There will be a challenge as we head down the
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  Speaker 2: back stretch here, though, can he reach the number of
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  Speaker 2: voters that he's going to need to reach in order
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  Speaker 2: to win that election? And the Republican Party, the State
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  Speaker 2: Central Committee decided to endorse Robert Sprague, his opponent, so
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  Speaker 2: that will give him the indict show. That will give
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  Speaker 2: him some financial breathing room, if you will. Plus he
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  Speaker 2: will probably have the donor class behind him. So down
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  Speaker 2: the stretch it's going to be about can Marcel get
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  Speaker 2: in front of enough voters and can he overcome the
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  Speaker 2: millions and millions in spending that we'll see from Robert Sprague.
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  Speaker 1: Well, before we part company and end this break and
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  Speaker 1: move on to a different topic, I guess I'm just
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  Speaker 1: kind of curious to know, and I think I know
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  Speaker 1: your reaction. A lot of my listeners, and you guess
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  Speaker 1: you can count me among them, little upset with the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party making endorsements in advance the primary before the
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  Speaker 1: actual Republican voters have had to have a say, have
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  Speaker 1: had a say in the matter.
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  Speaker 2: Jack, Yeah, So that is a very, very controversial topic,
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  Speaker 2: and it really came to a head if you remember
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  Speaker 2: back when Governor Mike DeWine was endorsed by the party
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  Speaker 2: and there was a contested gubernatorial primary. But what ended
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  Speaker 2: up being interesting is now you have another governor's race
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  Speaker 2: four years later, and some of the same people who
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  Speaker 2: when DeWine was endorsed early came out and said, well, listen,
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  Speaker 2: Traditionally I wouldn't support endorsing in a race, but because
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  Speaker 2: Governor Mike DeWine is going to try to pull all
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  Speaker 2: the levers possible to get someone like Lieutenant Governor Jim
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  Speaker 2: Tressel to be the party's endorsed candidate, we've got to
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and get out of the gate early, get
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  Speaker 2: Vivek Ramaswami to be the guy that we endorse y.
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  Speaker 2: And so that was a real interesting about face. And
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  Speaker 2: then of course that has continued on down the ticket,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that will benefit Marcel Sturbiche's opponent in
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  Speaker 2: this race.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right on that one. And while
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have and my listeners may call me out
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  Speaker 1: on being hypocritical on this, I didn't say anything about
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  Speaker 1: the Republican Party's endorsement of Via Ramas on me just
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  Speaker 1: because I think Vivek is the candidate and I really
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  Speaker 1: want him. But the same arguments do apply. I think
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  Speaker 1: if they had let us just approach the primary on
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  Speaker 1: the gubernatorial candidate, Vivike Ramaswamy would have run anyway, and
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  Speaker 1: that's where we would be and there wouldn't be this controversy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the nuclear option Jack. Once you get rid
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  Speaker 1: of the sixty vote threshold and you go down to fifty,
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  Speaker 1: it's over with and it's done. So I think we're
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  Speaker 1: going to see this trend continue down the road.
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  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate, and I think we are. And the challenge
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  Speaker 2: is many times it's hard for people to do all
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  Speaker 2: of their homework in advance, and it's actually the primary
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  Speaker 2: election that brings their attention to the point that they
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  Speaker 2: need to do the researches. And if you have the
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  Speaker 2: party putting the thumb on the scale before that, maybe
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you're not getting the best candidate or the candidate
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  Speaker 2: that people genuinely want, and.
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  Speaker 1: It reduces the likelihood that they will agree to a debate,
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  Speaker 1: which I think benefits everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I would absolutely agree with that, and that's been one
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  Speaker 2: of my areas of frustration with Robert Sprague. He seems
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  Speaker 2: to not want to debate now, and he's actually like
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  Speaker 2: he has with you. He has gone radio silent with me,
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  Speaker 2: and his campaign staff will not return phone calls, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm begging him to come on my show and answer
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  Speaker 2: some hard questions.
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  Speaker 4: Well, continue with me this morning. Energy policy.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to continue with Jack Wins when we get
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  Speaker 1: back Ohio senators and Trump discussing energy rates, regarding building
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  Speaker 1: new data centers.
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  Speaker 1: Pressnetwork dot Com. Jack Windsor side Jackson the program every
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  Speaker 1: Friday here on the fifty five KSSE Morning Show, bringing
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  Speaker 1: us up to speed. And I understand that Trump and
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  Speaker 1: well John Houston, Bernie Moreno had a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: other folks, so are doing a roundtable in terms of well,
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  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 4: It's a boom.
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  Speaker 1: We're all dealing with it, but we're all worried about
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  Speaker 1: that it's going to make our electricity bills go up
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  Speaker 1: through the sky, and that seems to be going in
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  Speaker 1: that direction, Jack Windsor, I know there's been a lot
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  Speaker 1: of proposals about AI bringing their own power with them.
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  Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Brigham Account on the Hudson
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  Speaker 1: Institute about small modular reactors and that may be a
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  Speaker 1: thing they can bring with them. Very expensive they are.
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  Speaker 1: But what does this all mean to us, Jack Windsor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, great question.
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  Speaker 2: So President Donald Trump is serious about the United States
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  Speaker 2: continuing to lead on AI, particularly with China, the country
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  Speaker 2: that is competing with us primarily, and he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: address this concern that we all have, which is if
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  Speaker 2: we build all of these data centers and these data
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  Speaker 2: centers become a suck on our power supply, then what
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  Speaker 2: does that do to our electric bills? So he worked
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  Speaker 2: with some key companies Amazon, Google, Meta, Microsoft, Oracle, OpenAI,
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  Speaker 2: and Xai, and they signed a non binding agreement and
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  Speaker 2: they committed to five things. One was to secure their
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  Speaker 2: own electricity supplies for data centers, to invest in new
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  Speaker 2: power generation resources. Three, fund transmission upgrades for negotiate separate
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  Speaker 2: rate structures with utilities in five enhance grid resilience to
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  Speaker 2: handle increased demands. And it's also new worthy. As you mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: Senators Bernie Marino and John Housted were in attendance and
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  Speaker 2: praised this commitment. But also we're alongside META when they
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  Speaker 2: announced a new workforce training program in Ohio to support
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  Speaker 2: AI related jobs, which of course aligns with the pledges
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  Speaker 2: focus on economic growth, particularly using local workers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know some people are against the
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  Speaker 1: whole concept of AI in their backyard. Going back to
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  Speaker 1: the NIMBI thing, it's a foregone conclusion these are coming.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, if it was a let's say, a Multiplex,
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  Speaker 1: Giant Walmart, Giant Kroger, Giant whatever, taking up the same
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  Speaker 1: square footage of land, would people be against it as
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  Speaker 1: much as they are with the AI facilities considering the
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  Speaker 1: amount of revenue by way of tax dollars they presumably
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  Speaker 1: will bring into any given community. It's the power, really
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  Speaker 1: is the problem for most people, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: It really is. It's the power.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there's still this nebulous, conspiratorial thinking. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't by the way, I don't use the word
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  Speaker 2: conspiratorial the way that some people on the left do.
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  Speaker 2: There is just this belief that there's some conspiring and
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  Speaker 2: hiding some information about surveillance and all those things, and
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  Speaker 2: so there are some of those concerns. But yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: does come down to power.
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  Speaker 3: But I like to.
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  Speaker 2: Point out, and I know that you've had Donovan O'Neil
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  Speaker 2: with Americans for Prosperity on your show before, but AFP's
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  Speaker 2: been really on the bleeding edge with some of this.
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  Speaker 2: And when you look at those five points that Trump
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  Speaker 2: is really working hard to make sure these tech giants
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  Speaker 2: adhere to Ohio really is pretty far down the path.
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  Speaker 2: If you remember House Bill fifteen became effective in August
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  Speaker 2: of last year. It really deals with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: that behind the meter, self generation and microgrids. So Ohio
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  Speaker 2: is really kind of suited up and ready for these
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  Speaker 2: companies to do that here. And then of course the
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  Speaker 2: separate rate structures and cost allocation Public Utilities Commission of
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  Speaker 2: Ohio did approve some data center specific tariff language for
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  Speaker 2: AFP AEP now that needs to be blanketed, I think,
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  Speaker 2: and apply to all of these power companies. But there
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  Speaker 2: are incentives for new generation transmission under House Bill fifteen
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  Speaker 2: and the grid resilience enhancements that's kind of baked into
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  Speaker 2: House Bill fifteen, and some of this stuff that the
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  Speaker 2: Public Utilities Commission of Ohio is doing. But overall, I
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  Speaker 2: think Ohio's framework is already well equipped for these non
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  Speaker 2: binding pledges. It will be now then incumbent upon the
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  Speaker 2: lawmakers in the General Assembly to take it the extra
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  Speaker 2: mile to make sure that Ohio is in a position
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  Speaker 2: that when these companies want to do the things that
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  Speaker 2: they've committed to do, that they're legally able to do them.
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  Speaker 1: Legally able to do them. There's that pesky legal impediment,
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  Speaker 1: self imposed, self inflicted wound. Usually Jack windsor it's a
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  Speaker 1: forty five. We'll bring Jack back to talk about whistleblowers.
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  Speaker 1: Are they being punished for exposing waste and fraud?
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  Speaker 4: God? I hope not.
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  Speaker 1: But something suggests based on the topic that yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: are more with Jack windsor don't go away.
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  Speaker 4: Fifty five euros the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Eight forty nine if you have KRC detalk station for
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  Speaker 1: idel Jack windsor the Ohio Press Network. Wait a minute, Jack, fraud,
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  Speaker 1: wasted abuse. We all need to go after it because
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  Speaker 1: this does not bear a political stripe. If someone is
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  Speaker 1: stealing taxpayer dollars, they're stealing liberal tax payer dollars, conservative
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  Speaker 1: tax payer dollars. Politically neutral Switzerland type political politically leading folks.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is suffering on this. There should be no fraud
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  Speaker 1: wasted abuse. There should be a fiduciary obligation owed by
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  Speaker 1: people in government to mind the store and prevent it
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  Speaker 1: from happening. Clearly, Minnesota is a wonderful illustration of them
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  Speaker 1: not only being aware of fraud wasted abuse, almost actively
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  Speaker 1: encouraging it, claiming, oh my god, if I say something,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be accused of racism. Oh blow it out, or
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  Speaker 1: you know what. That is a nonsensical argument. If you're stealing,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what color skin you've got, you are stealing,
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  Speaker 1: which is a pox on everyone with that in mind. Whistleblowers, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: what's this one all about?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, preach, Brian, preach.
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  Speaker 2: The second of all, just another Byshell report from the
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  Speaker 2: Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
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  Speaker 3: It dropped earlier.
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  Speaker 2: This week, and what we now know is that, based
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  Speaker 2: on the testimony of nine current and former state officials
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  Speaker 2: in Minnesota, that Governor Tim Walls and his administration not
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  Speaker 2: only knew that fraud was occurring, they did nothing about it.
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  Speaker 2: And then what you just said, they went the extra
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  Speaker 2: mile and actually sought to punish the whistleblowers. Now, there
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  Speaker 2: are six different types of allegations. I'll run quickly through those. First,
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  Speaker 2: whistleblowers alleged that millions were spent on surveilling employees who
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  Speaker 2: raised fraud concerns. So not only were they letting money
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  Speaker 2: seep out the hole in the bucket, they were taking
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  Speaker 2: what money was left over to actually try to surveil
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  Speaker 2: the people who were.
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  Speaker 3: Blowing the whistle. Disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: Whistleblowers also claimed that private investigators or law firms were
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  Speaker 2: hired to silence them. Dozens of whistleblowers reported being told
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  Speaker 2: to not speak about the fraud, and as you just
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  Speaker 2: pointed out, they would be accused of being racist, islamophobic, xenophobic.
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  Speaker 2: Upper management conducted regular checks or meetings with these employees
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  Speaker 2: who reported concerns so that they, you know, felt big
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  Speaker 2: brothers watching right over their shoulder. And then examples include
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  Speaker 2: of job related threats and demotivation, supervisors threatening to make
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  Speaker 2: a whistleblower's life difficult. And then those supervisors later receiving
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  Speaker 2: a promotion. So it was very clear that this was
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  Speaker 2: a culture that rewarded turning a blind eye to fraud,
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  Speaker 2: and then management showed disdain for groups of employees emailing
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  Speaker 2: fraud concerns to leadership, including the governor's chief of staff,
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  Speaker 2: and broader findings note a fear of political retribution. So again,
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  Speaker 2: these are not just pie in the sky, you know,
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  Speaker 2: pulled out of the ether. These are based on the
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  Speaker 2: testimony of nine current and former state officials there in
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  Speaker 2: the North Star state, so that not only is their waste,
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  Speaker 2: fraud and abuse, now they're punishing the good guys that
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  Speaker 2: are actually trying to stand up for the taxpayer.
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  Speaker 4: Well throughout this process.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at the reporting on
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  Speaker 1: this Minnesota thing, and I thought, Imprimus did a fabulous
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  Speaker 1: job and I can't I posted on my blog pages
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  Speaker 1: they through the whole thing. But the author pointed out
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  Speaker 1: the history of the investigation of these leering centers and
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  Speaker 1: these various other programs, and that there was local reporting
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  Speaker 1: on it going way back pointing out the fraud, waste,
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  Speaker 1: and abuse. I mean, this was widely known. This was
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  Speaker 1: just this wasn't flying under the radar. This was kind
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  Speaker 1: of going on on and on and on, and considering
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  Speaker 1: the reasons as you just boiled down and articulated these
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  Speaker 1: threats of you know, accusing people of xenophobia or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: which I find, you know, threaten me with that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna laugh at you. Where are the spine with these people?
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  Speaker 1: But I think you've revealed some perhaps broader problem that's
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  Speaker 1: going on with our pretty much anybody in elected capacity,
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  Speaker 1: they're all being threatened along these lines. We're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: an organized campaign, We're gonna boycott, You're gonna accuse you
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  Speaker 1: endlessly of being a racist and homophobe and a zenovo.
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  Speaker 1: And you wonder why our politicians do things. Maybe they
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  Speaker 1: got the goods on behind the scenes, like yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: know where you search on the internet, we got pictures
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  Speaker 1: of you or whatever, this kind of extortion thing without
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  Speaker 1: people in those positions having spines willing to stand up
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  Speaker 1: to a going no, no, I'm not a racist. I'm
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: just looking at people ripping us off. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: a simple response.
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  Speaker 3: Jack, It really does. It really does.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, I will remind your listeners, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that this is gonna make some people mad,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't care. Our governor is a governor who
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  Speaker 2: stood up when the beginning of discovery has happened here
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  Speaker 2: in Ohio and said, well, you know, the Somali people
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: are good people, and they contribute to our local businesses
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: and regional businesses. And listen, this is not a critique
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  Speaker 2: of the Somali people, but it would be it's stupid
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  Speaker 2: for the governor to say things like that when you
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: can look at the numbers and recognize that seventy percent,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: somewhere between fifty eight and seventy percent get Medicaid, they
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: get snap benefits, and they get other welfare benefits, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: so I go, okay, if they are contributing members of society,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: why are their rates for public assistance exponentially higher? And
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: again it goes back to this guilty shaming and blaming.
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  Speaker 2: We are never going to get it right if every
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  Speaker 2: time that we step out or put our necks out
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  Speaker 2: and say, look, this is something going wrong here, that
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: we cowtail when.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody says, well, you're racist or you're xenophobic.
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  Speaker 2: And when you have a governor of the state of
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  Speaker 2: Ohio really role modeling that it doesn't take long to
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  Speaker 2: figure out why we have millions and probably billions of
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: dollars a fraud here in this state as well.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the point I've been making, never paying
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  Speaker 1: with a broad brush. I'm sure there are some within
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: the smaller community that are contributing, and they are paying taxes,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and they are great mom and dads, and they have
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: family life whatever. Not all of them fall into that
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: category much in the same way some of them are
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: ripping us all up. That is not me saying all
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Somalians are thieves. You're painting with a broad brush. By
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: accusing me of that, you are basically being the racist.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Come on, just because you're within some given category of
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: people the whole, doesn't mean there's not a subset of
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: people who might fall out of that collective and say, no,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: those nefarious, the subset of the small and community are nefarious.
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  Speaker 1: A subset of the smiling community are great people. Let's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: go after the nefarious. Let's keep this whole race thing
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  Speaker 1: out of it and save ourselves the taxpayer dollars that
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: are being ripped off.
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: And this is what concerns me, and we can talk
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: about it with any topic. Now, there is this movement
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: within the middle of the road to the right. I
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: call it the woke right now. And you look at
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: what the left has done for the past four or
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: five decades. They've become masterful at identity politics, and if
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: you go against the narrative, then they put a label
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: on you racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, whatever. Well, when the right
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: starts doing those same things, we are going so far
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: away from the fourteenth Amendment, which says that we should
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: be applying the law equally to everybody and everyone should
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: get an equal remedy. If we start down that road,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I'm afraid we're not going to come back. So shame
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: on Governor Mike Dwine and other Republicans who fall into
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: that trap.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Amen, underscore and I share your criticism the ohiopressnetwork dot com.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Fine Jack, bookmark the site. Jack will do this next Friday.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I have a wonderful weekend and a great week my
• 19:02
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