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Chuck & Buck 10-9 Hour 3: WTF happened in Detroit? ABCs of the Mariners and Logan Gilbert postgame. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Good time, other than the fact that we couldn't win
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Speaker 1: you a second game yesterday and come home with trophy.
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Speaker 2: I realized I don't give away a trophy, but.
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Speaker 1: We really did want Bucky soaked with the champagne last
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Speaker 1: night in the clubhouse, and the baseball guys just did
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Speaker 1: not cooperate them and the Tigers, yeah, yeah, they didn't
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Speaker 1: cooperate either.
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Speaker 2: But this is our final morning here.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to iHeart Detroit here for making us feel at home.
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Speaker 1: Very hospitable people, very nice people here in Detroit that
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Speaker 1: we have encountered, and we are excited about getting home,
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Speaker 1: getting out to the ballpark tomorrow night for game number five. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'd rather be coming home with a divisional round victory
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Speaker 1: and a champagne smelling Bucky Jacobson. But we have a
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Speaker 1: Game five to look forward to on Friday, and it
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Speaker 1: is going to be an unbelievable atmosphere. Of course, none
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Speaker 1: of this could have happened without our support, and I
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Speaker 1: really do. I mean, we take a lot of jokes.
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Speaker 1: I even took a couple shots this morning. Earlier this week,
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Speaker 1: but thanks to Mark Glynn, our boss, also Rich Moore.
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Speaker 1: Big thanks to Rich Moore, because I think He really
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Speaker 1: pushed this forward to get us out here and to
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Speaker 1: land there back at the station and even the big
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Speaker 1: bosses that we never get to see. Thanks Pittman, thanks
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Speaker 1: for making this happen. We really do appreciate it. It's
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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun and hopefully you've enjoyed
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Speaker 1: our coverage out here in Michigan. And we will be
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Speaker 1: flying home a little bit later on today, but I
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Speaker 1: wanted to do an entire Mariners Hour here in the
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Speaker 1: eight o'clock hour. We're gonna get to the ab season
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Also Logan Gilbert as well, but let's
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Speaker 1: just talk about the game yesterday here to get things started.
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Speaker 2: Bucky.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it really did feel like we had won
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Speaker 1: the series. It looked like that's what we were going
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Speaker 1: to be doing with our time last night is just
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Speaker 1: smiling sell A braiding the fact that we were through
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Speaker 1: to the American League Championship Series. On the anniversary of
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Speaker 1: the double, it just felt like everything was moving in
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Speaker 1: that direction. Up three to nothing in the fifth, I
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Speaker 1: am telling you we were there. I mean the game
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Speaker 1: started with the fans not filling out, first time in
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Speaker 1: the history of Detroit Tigers baseball that they did not
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Speaker 1: have a sellout crowd for.
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Speaker 2: A postseason baseball game.
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Speaker 1: I really think Tiger fans assessed it like we can't
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Speaker 1: beat them, And I think a lot of it had
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Speaker 1: to do with the last month how poorly they played
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Speaker 1: and blowing the division. I think they lost a little
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Speaker 1: bit of faith whether or not they had a championship
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Speaker 1: contender here in Detroit.
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Speaker 2: But from the evening of Game.
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Speaker 1: Number three all the way into the start of Game
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Speaker 1: number four, there really was a feeling like Tiger fans
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Speaker 1: were just they've kind of given up hope, and then
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Speaker 1: they start booing in the third and the fourth. In
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Speaker 1: the contest yesterday, I mean, aj Hinch is bringing in
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Speaker 1: his best reliever, arguably in the fourth inning to get
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Speaker 1: out of a Bas's loaded jam, which he did a
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Speaker 1: pretty good job of doing. By the way, I got
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Speaker 1: the Tiger beat rider sitting next to me in the
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Speaker 1: press box, riding the Tiger's obituary right in front of
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Speaker 1: me for the twenty twenty five season. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: want to talk about coming up with a rally when
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Speaker 1: it felt like they were out out cold in the
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Speaker 1: middle of a potential clenching game for the Mariners, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you just don't grow a bumper crop from a field
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Speaker 1: of dust. And yet somehow they rose up and they
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Speaker 1: earned it. I mean, they just rattled the bats. But
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Speaker 1: it really did feel like we were in the fifth inning.
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Speaker 1: Going into that fifth inning, we were going to be
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Speaker 1: celebrating last night, and I've never felt it more overwhelmingly
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Speaker 1: than I did at that time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wasn't there. I didn't get quite there.
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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I didn't win that. When
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Speaker 2: we had bases, no outs and they were making the
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Speaker 2: pitching change, I felt like we were on the cusp
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Speaker 2: of feeling real good about ourselves, right, and yet you
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Speaker 2: and I were, we were we were talking about what
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Speaker 2: we were going to do after the game, right, And
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Speaker 2: then we didn't really discuss it too terribly much further
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Speaker 2: because it was there was still a lot of game
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Speaker 2: left to be played. When Victor Robe was hitting too
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Speaker 2: that ground ball.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I need to clarify that because it people angry.
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Speaker 1: We discussed our options as professionals.
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Speaker 2: Yes, with a win, we do this. With a loss,
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Speaker 2: we do this all right, So we weren't. We weren't
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Speaker 2: getting ahead of it. We didn't put on rain ponchos
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Speaker 2: like some people did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't go there. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I don't want people to thinking because I realize
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Speaker 1: a lot of people think that God's up there keeping score, like, oh, they.
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Speaker 2: Just jinxed them. Jinks them, didn't jinx them, jinks them,
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Speaker 2: jinks them. All right, this is the team that wins
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Speaker 2: based off all the jinxes that I have accumulated here
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Speaker 2: from this scenario. So we didn't jinx them.
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Speaker 1: We had a conversation as professional broadcasters as to how
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Speaker 1: we were gonna handle the post game, whether.
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Speaker 2: They won or the oka. Yes, want to clarify that, Yes,
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Speaker 2: and but I'll just say that at that moment, that was,
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Speaker 2: that was before that, that was probably in the third inning.
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Speaker 2: It was before any of the wheels started to even rattle,
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Speaker 2: let alone come off. I was not in I wasn't
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Speaker 2: in a comfortable place. I was feeling better. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we scored. When Canzone drove in the first round, I
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Speaker 2: was like, nice, get on the board first. I want
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Speaker 2: to play ahead, especially when you're on the road when
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Speaker 2: the second run comes across. Feeling better still, don't, I
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Speaker 2: still am like these guys, they're not going to roll
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Speaker 2: over for you. You're gonna have to take this. When we
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Speaker 2: had basses juiced and they're making the move to the bullpen,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is where you blow it open, right,
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Speaker 2: you end up putting up a three spot of four
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Speaker 2: spot right here. Now, I would have I still probably
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have got super comfortable like we got this because
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Speaker 2: I don't. I just don't trust relief pictures. There's a
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Speaker 2: I like the guys that we have. I like game Spider,
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Speaker 2: like what he's done. I like Bizardo, I like obviously
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Speaker 2: Brash Munnos. I don't trust them. They're pictures, and they're
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Speaker 2: relief pictures, and they they're not perfect. They're going to
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Speaker 2: have moments where they they give up runs. I don't think,
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Speaker 2: you know, anybody would would think that we have Mariano Rivera,
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Speaker 2: who even he had his moments, very rare, but even
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Speaker 2: he had his moments. So to me, I ate a
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Speaker 2: blow two thousand and one Rivera. Yeah, hall of fame
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Speaker 2: or my butt? Yeah unanimous? Okay, yeah, uh, apparently that
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Speaker 2: guy didn't watch that series. Part of the world series mo. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's a big deal, kind of you should show up. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: loser weight a half ascid. Yeah, but so, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I didn't get all the way there. Uh, And I
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Speaker 2: think it was the second run that was Victor Robos's
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Speaker 2: ground out was the second run that was one where like, ah,
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Speaker 2: I feel like you let them off the hook. I
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Speaker 2: feel like you had them wobbled right and and instead
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Speaker 2: you let them get back up off the mattin So,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I I never quite got there, but I
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Speaker 2: will tell you, I until it was probably to three,
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Speaker 2: I felt like, okay, used to We're still a bloop
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Speaker 2: and a blast away from, you know, taking the lead
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Speaker 2: back on this bad boy.
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Speaker 1: Felt bad, And I know you were never going to
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Speaker 1: get there. But I am telling you the description that
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Speaker 1: I've provided is accurate. The Tiger fans were there, Oh,
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Speaker 1: Tiger fans were for sure. Tiger fans had given up
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Speaker 1: the night before. The Tiger fans walked out of the
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Speaker 1: stadium when Matt Brash mowed him down one, two, three,
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Speaker 1: and the seventh inning, like half of them left. And
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Speaker 1: I think they showed up yesterday just because they'd already
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Speaker 1: bought the tickets, I mean, and then they didn't. The
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Speaker 1: people that tried to fill in the seats were Mariner fans.
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Speaker 1: It was like Alex Akita, No, those are the people
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Speaker 1: that were showing up. The Mariner fans that again kind
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Speaker 1: of taken over the stadium for the first five innings.
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Speaker 1: All I was hearing was Mariner cheers and Tiger booze.
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Speaker 1: That's all that I was hearing for the for the
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Speaker 1: first five innings of that game.
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Speaker 2: And when it was three to.
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Speaker 1: Nothing, I mean, it really felt like Tiger fans were
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Speaker 1: like waving the white flags on the entire series and
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Speaker 1: had kind of resigned themselves. You know, had a good year,
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Speaker 1: but that's the better team. Let's face it, We're gonna
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Speaker 1: live with that. That's the feeling that you had in
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Speaker 1: the stadium. Oh yeah, no doubt about it. I mean
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Speaker 1: the fans most certainly did. They kind of do a
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Speaker 1: It's a cool thing if you're a Detroit fan where
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Speaker 1: they will start the game out and they will boo
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Speaker 1: the hitter right when they first come up, right, And
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Speaker 1: they ended up the first game here they ended up
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Speaker 1: doing that well, went away after like not even the
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Speaker 1: whole first time through the lineup, they weren't doing it anymore.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday they were doing it all the way through, like
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Speaker 1: one and a half times through the lineup. Like every
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Speaker 1: time they would announce our guy to come up a bat,
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Speaker 1: they would boo, and I'm like, I like that as
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Speaker 1: a as a as a as a player, I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: like being booed just when they announced my name.
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Speaker 2: It's not going to affect how I go up there.
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Speaker 2: But so but then when yes, we scored the second
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Speaker 2: run and most certainly the third run, you could hear
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Speaker 2: and to me, it immediately felt like, like you said,
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Speaker 2: it was a month's worth of disappointment as to how
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Speaker 2: this team limped into the playoffs. They were kind of
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Speaker 2: watching it unfold and feeling like, we're running out of outs.
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Speaker 2: Our season is going to be over in fifteen outs
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Speaker 2: from now. And the difference is obviously the players on
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Speaker 2: that team. They most certainly didn't feel it.
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Speaker 1: And they put together a string of quality at bats
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Speaker 1: against typically successful relievers. I mean, Bizardo had a terrific year,
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Speaker 1: Spire had a terrific year, and he looked unhittable in
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Speaker 1: the first two appearances that he made in this series. So,
9:39
Speaker 1: you know, I realized that the conversation of how we
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Speaker 1: lost this game, a lot of people feel it starts
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Speaker 1: with the decision to take Bryce Miller out of the game.
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Speaker 1: I thought Softie had a really enlightening point, a very
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Speaker 1: honest point with himself. He wanted to be able to
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Speaker 1: point the finger at somebody to blame them because he
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Speaker 1: was angry that they lost the game. I don't think
10:02
Speaker 1: you can point that finger at Dan Wilson. I think
10:05
Speaker 1: they marched in with the game plan that Bryce Miller
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Speaker 1: is going to come out the moment it looks like
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Speaker 1: he's getting into trouble. And this is nothing new for
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Speaker 1: this series. I mean, George Kirby had four shutout innings
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Speaker 1: and didn't make it through the fifth. Luis Castillo had
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Speaker 1: four shutout innings and didn't make it through the fifth,
10:21
Speaker 1: and Bryce Miller had four shutout innings and didn't make
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Speaker 1: it through the fifth. So not only was it not
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Speaker 1: new to this series that that's the kind of the moment,
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Speaker 1: that's the you know who or get off the pot
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Speaker 1: kind of moment with your starter, that the organization was
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Speaker 1: planning on making that decision if they got into any
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Speaker 1: trouble and you're looking at third time through the rotation
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Speaker 1: the lineup potentially, but for this game in particular, with
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Speaker 1: Bryce Miller being clearly the fifth best starter in the organization,
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Speaker 1: this year. I thought there was going to be a
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Speaker 1: really quick hook, so I wasn't if anything, and I
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Speaker 1: know this gonna sound strange. I was more surprised they
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Speaker 1: didn't take him out after the Torkosen single to start
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Speaker 1: the inning. Then I was surprised that they took him
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Speaker 1: out after the Dingler double that scored the tigers first run.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I get that you're angry, but.
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Speaker 1: I don't think unless you were saying the whole time
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Speaker 1: Bryce stays in for seven innings, then I don't think
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Speaker 1: you can hindsight wait to see Spire and Bizardo cough
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Speaker 1: up the lead and any chance of coming back, and
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Speaker 1: then start pointing fingers at Dan Wilson. I think he
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Speaker 1: handled it like I believed he was going to and
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Speaker 1: like I think he should have handled it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I'm not one that is quick
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Speaker 2: to jump in because I don't think that you I'm
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Speaker 2: going to have a super strong opinion if I don't
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Speaker 2: have all of the information. I'll say this though, in
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Speaker 2: the moment, as I watched Gabe go out there and
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Speaker 2: struggle to one not relinquish the run that Bryce Miller
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Speaker 2: left on second base, but then also give up his
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Speaker 2: own right. He just didn't have the same stuff that
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Speaker 2: he typically does the next inning. So then they tie
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Speaker 2: it up, and you go into the next inning, and
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Speaker 2: we get a couple guys on with two outs, and
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Speaker 2: then that's when I was talking about Randy Rose. Arena
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Speaker 2: gets out with the out, two guys on, two outs,
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Speaker 2: so they put up a zero, which is exactly what
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Speaker 2: you want to do as the opposing pitching staff. We
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Speaker 2: just tied it up. Go put up a zero, especially
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Speaker 2: when you're the home team, because now you're writing the
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Speaker 2: momentum from the previous inning. You wrote it through the
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Speaker 2: possible hiccup in the top of the sixth, and now
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Speaker 2: you get hitting them. And yet what That's where Dan
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Speaker 2: Wilson says, I have to trust Gabe here. You're not
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Speaker 2: going to bring in Caleb Ferguson after what we watched
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Speaker 2: the day before, and that's your only other left he
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Speaker 2: to go against Riley Green, who has substantially different splits,
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Speaker 2: especially power numbers, righty's versus lefties. Oh, it's nobody but Gabe. Well,
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Speaker 2: because I think it's the right decision, but it's one
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Speaker 2: that you should you could think about. If you're saying
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Speaker 2: Gabe is not Gabe right now what I watched it. Yes,
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Speaker 2: that's where I was thinking in the moment. This is
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Speaker 2: before the home run. I'm thinking because it's one of
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Speaker 2: those they will They've taken him out before against lefties. Now,
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Speaker 2: if you switch to another picture and it's not going
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Speaker 2: to be another lefty, he's obviously not coming out. But
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Speaker 2: then it's okay. Do I trust that he's going to
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Speaker 2: get the lefty out like he typically does, or is
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Speaker 2: this where maybe I go to brash because I'm writing
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Speaker 2: that fine line of momentum that they they stole from
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Speaker 2: us when they scored three and tied it up. They're
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Speaker 2: gaining on it by putting up a zero in the
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Speaker 2: top of the sixth. That might have been a situation
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Speaker 2: where I said Brash, I'm going brash, and I might
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Speaker 2: go the next two innings with Brash, hope we score
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Speaker 2: in the next couple of innings, and then I go
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Speaker 2: Munnos from maybe two outs to two innings to close
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Speaker 2: it out. I'm not saying I'm I think he did
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Speaker 2: the wrong thing, because I don't think it's the wrong thing.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying in the moment, I was thinking, I don't
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Speaker 2: know for sure if I would have trusted Gabe simply
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Speaker 2: based on how I saw the last inning play out.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying. I would say
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Speaker 1: two things to that. Number One, that he did seem
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Speaker 1: to settle I mean, he gave up two hits in
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Speaker 1: that inning that tied the game, and then he did
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Speaker 1: kind of settle down after he got the next two
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Speaker 1: hitters out on weak ground balls. And his job is
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Speaker 1: to get left handers out, their best left handers, and
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Speaker 1: you've got their best hitter coming up next in Riley Green.
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Speaker 2: Who struggles severely against lefties.
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Speaker 1: So I think number one, they read that all right,
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Speaker 1: he got off to a rocky start, But I think
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Speaker 1: maybe he's fixed things, and this is the reason that
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Speaker 1: we have him in this situation.
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Speaker 2: There's a reason we brought him in.
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Speaker 1: We wanted him to have to face this gauntlet and
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Speaker 1: have aj Hinch have to make a decision whether or
14:37
Speaker 1: not he wanted Kerry Carpenter, Colt Keith and Riley Green
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Speaker 1: to hit and Parker Meadow's against our best left hander,
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Speaker 1: or if he wanted to take him out of the
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Speaker 1: game and make things easier for us later on in
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Speaker 1: the contest. So I think it's the whole reason that
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Speaker 1: he was there. I get that he was struggling. He
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Speaker 1: obviously struggled, but I think that he ironed things out.
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Speaker 1: I think the other thing was because you did have
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Speaker 1: the extra game in hand, that it wasn't Matt Brash
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Speaker 1: two innings time yet, and Dan's head, I think it
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Speaker 1: is tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Like, if you need.
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Speaker 1: Matt Rash to go two innings tomorrow, I think he'd
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Speaker 1: go tomorrow. I think Andre's Munoz could go two innings tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: But I think with the extra game in hand, I
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Speaker 1: don't think it was matt Rash two innings day yet.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that they had reached that mindset to
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Speaker 1: this point. So I mean, I honestly I love the
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Speaker 1: way Softy put it. I want to be able to
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Speaker 1: blame a manager here because I'm angry that they did,
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Speaker 1: but I just think that they went with the game
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Speaker 1: plan and I look, Gabe Spier has been the key,
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Speaker 1: I said at the beginning of the series, but I
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Speaker 1: didn't expect it to unfold like this. He has been
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Speaker 1: the key to this entire series. He was the key
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Speaker 1: for you didn't go to him in Game one one
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Speaker 1: when you should and may have lost the game because
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Speaker 1: of it. You did go to him at the right
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Speaker 1: time in game number two and may have won the
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Speaker 1: game because of it. And then you went to him,
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Speaker 1: I thought, at the right time yesterday, and for whatever reason,
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Speaker 1: he didn't have it and he handed game number four
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Speaker 1: to the Detroit Tigers. But I don't see how Dan
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Speaker 1: Wilson as a button that predicts the future.
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Speaker 2: There.
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Speaker 1: That was the moment they were planning to move away
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Speaker 1: from Miller.
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Speaker 2: They were planning to move away from him the moment
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Speaker 2: it looked.
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Speaker 1: Like he was getting into any trouble, and it happened
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Speaker 1: to come in the fifth and their plan was to
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Speaker 1: go to Spire when that happened, as long as those
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Speaker 1: lefties were starting to line up, I think he went
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Speaker 1: exactly according to game plan, and I think it was
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Speaker 1: the right game plan, and it just blew up in
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Speaker 1: their faces. Spire just didn't have it. Bizardo just didn't
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Speaker 1: have it. And if you could have predicted that, well,
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be on this earth, you know, you should
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Speaker 1: be somewhere else, you know, kind of predicting the fate
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Speaker 1: of the worlds. If you could predict that they were
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Speaker 1: going to pitch that poorly, yesterday, because I haven't really
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Speaker 1: much aught all this season.
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Speaker 2: No, no, and I'm with you, but I mean, I'm,
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Speaker 2: without a doubt, a guy that knows and understands and
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Speaker 2: lives by the eye. I know that no one has
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Speaker 2: a button to predict the future. I'm saying, that's where
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Speaker 2: the game plan. I'm just saying people that were angry,
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't second guess things because
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Speaker 2: of outcomes. It was more of a feel to me,
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Speaker 2: do I I get. I think it's the right choice
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Speaker 2: to send gave back out there for that for the
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Speaker 2: what was it the sixth inning, right, and then where
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Speaker 2: he gives up the home run and then you bring
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Speaker 2: Bizarreo in and the wheels absolutely fall off. I think
17:26
Speaker 2: it was the right call. And yet there's a part
17:29
Speaker 2: of me in the moment before the home run happened saying,
17:32
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure if I'm if. I just
17:35
Speaker 2: trust that he's himself right now. Today he just didn't
17:38
Speaker 2: look like it, even though yes, he did end up
17:40
Speaker 2: getting a couple of week ground balls and and figured
17:42
Speaker 2: out it looked like he had settled in. It still
17:45
Speaker 2: is one like man. And I know that, Yes, maybe
17:48
Speaker 2: because you had a game in the bag that you
17:50
Speaker 2: could you could afford to do that, and your season's
17:53
Speaker 2: not over. Maybe it's not two innings. If anything, if
17:56
Speaker 2: we talk about how you manage differently in the postseason,
17:59
Speaker 2: I game one of a next series, if we get there,
18:02
Speaker 2: if it said, if my gut tells me, and the outcome,
18:05
Speaker 2: because it's not your best option against a lefty even
18:09
Speaker 2: more than Gabe Spier might be Matt Brash.
18:12
Speaker 1: Well, more often than not, Spiers come through in that moment.
18:15
Speaker 1: And you don't read any evidence that Matt Brash is a.
18:18
Speaker 2: Two innings pitcher this season. None. Well, I hadn't done it.
18:21
Speaker 2: I don't get well, he hasn't done it. Obviously coming
18:23
Speaker 2: off Tommy John to me, he can throw. I mean,
18:26
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have him out there for forty pitches
18:28
Speaker 2: over two innings. But if he goes out there and
18:29
Speaker 2: goes nine pitches, and he goes out there the next inning,
18:32
Speaker 2: goes twenty two or twelve pitches or fifteen pitches, he
18:35
Speaker 2: can throw twenty five thirty pitches in an inning.
18:37
Speaker 1: Be fine, All right, Well it's a loss, sorry about it.
18:41
Speaker 1: And yet so we get this opportunity. This is the
18:43
Speaker 1: way you got to look at it. You got an
18:45
Speaker 1: opportunity to watch a game five, deciding game in your
18:49
Speaker 1: own ballyard, with forty seven thousand of your closest baseball
18:54
Speaker 1: friends showing up to see if we can pull this
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Speaker 1: thing off Friday night at five o'clock. That you gotta
19:01
Speaker 1: be as excited as paulmer Edley.
19:05
Speaker 2: She can't wait. Yes, it really will be even sweeter
19:10
Speaker 2: if we do it at home. Yes, yeah, sure so,
19:12
Speaker 2: I mean the opportunity of the best possible outcome, a
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: From the when we got to where we knew we
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Speaker 2: were playing Detroit, I thought we're gonna get will Vest.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna we taught him how to become a decent picture.
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Speaker 1: And you can all your secrets beard out all you want,
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Speaker 2: Action.
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Speaker 1: Oh, and then just kind of opened up the big
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Speaker 2: Oh you did room sirs, Yeah, I did room sirvice. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna leave on a Sunday where it was
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Speaker 1: Game two, no game one, it was Game one yeah,
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Speaker 1: yeah huh. And then just had just this unbelievable panoramic
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Speaker 2: I'm outside alley. It's basically the best yea and casino.
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Speaker 2: That hotel looks amazing. I thought you maybe would have
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Speaker 2: went down into that little area where where Furnace Iron
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Speaker 2: Furnace like does his show from and then went out
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Speaker 2: on that.
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Speaker 1: I ate their dinner the night before, and I stayed there,
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Speaker 1: and I did consider that, but I kind of wanted just.
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Speaker 2: Like solitude, look out the window by yourself, because you're naked, yeah,
21:31
Speaker 2: self nudity, Yeah, salmon bagels and nakedness. Just kind of
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Speaker 2: rubbed that cream cheese. That's that's what the kids call
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Speaker 1: That is.
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Speaker 2: With the TN I that was way too much information.
21:55
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's do the abcs of the MS here.
21:58
Speaker 1: We're here in Detroit, and so obviously the A b
22:01
Speaker 1: c's of the.
22:02
Speaker 2: MS of PHILP. You know more at home. You know
22:06
Speaker 2: what I'm saying that we're with the team. Yeah, during
22:08
Speaker 2: the season.
22:09
Speaker 1: The we left off of the letter P yesterday, so
22:12
Speaker 1: that's where we'll pick it up. He is four pitchers,
22:14
Speaker 1: and Bucky can say all he wants about pitchers, but
22:18
Speaker 1: let's face it. This is this is why we're not
22:21
Speaker 1: breaking down who's gonna hit fifth going into Game number five?
22:26
Speaker 1: Now are we We're wondering who's gonna pitch for the
22:29
Speaker 1: Mariners to start the game, and we know who's gonna
22:32
Speaker 1: pitch for the Tigers. And he's the single solitary reason
22:36
Speaker 1: why Vegas says the Tigers are favored to win this game.
22:39
Speaker 1: So pitchers, it's all about pitchers on Friday night.
22:45
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna have to score some so it's, uh,
22:48
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna have to go out there some day or
22:53
Speaker 2: our pitchers gotta shut some fools out. Yeah, and typically, Yeah,
22:56
Speaker 2: Vegas gets it and understandably so. I mean the fact
22:59
Speaker 2: that he has what a two to e ra or
23:01
Speaker 2: something again this year probably gonna win another side, young,
23:03
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get a ton of runs. I mean,
23:05
Speaker 2: chances are now he's human. Maybe he shows up and
23:08
Speaker 2: I don't know, parties, has like a too much jungle
23:10
Speaker 2: juice or something the night before. Yeah, I don't know.
23:14
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what they make friends. Yeah, maybe that's what
23:18
Speaker 2: he has. I don't know exactly. Maybe he just gets
23:21
Speaker 2: too riled up and can't throw a strike. Something would
23:24
Speaker 2: be wonderful, But yeah, it is going to boil. It's
23:27
Speaker 2: gonna boil down to how how long can we go
23:30
Speaker 2: punch for punch with him? And then who's gonna take
23:33
Speaker 2: advantage offensively on either team when when a mistake is made,
23:36
Speaker 2: because they will be made. Uh.
23:39
Speaker 1: It feels to me kind of like just kind of
23:41
Speaker 1: the same Game two analysis, Like, I think it's gonna
23:44
Speaker 1: be one to one late, too too late to one late.
23:46
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're looking at. And then if
23:48
Speaker 1: we can get him out of the game, I mean,
23:50
Speaker 1: he'll go even further than what he did the first game.
23:52
Speaker 1: He went seven innings the first game and it came
23:55
Speaker 1: out after ninety five pitches. Well, he's on full rest
23:58
Speaker 1: through the rotation, and so if they need to push
24:02
Speaker 1: him to eighth inning, ninth inning, I mean, I think
24:05
Speaker 1: they'll push him to the brink as opposed to entering
24:08
Speaker 1: into that bullpen. Frankly, I'm kind of glad Troy Melton's
24:12
Speaker 1: not pitching. I mean, they don't give an MVP to
24:15
Speaker 1: the Alds, but right now the Tiger's MVP of the
24:18
Speaker 1: Alds is Troy.
24:20
Speaker 2: Freaking Melton, who well thoughts saw that come up. Yeah, well,
24:22
Speaker 2: no one including Troy Melton, considering he gave up like
24:27
Speaker 2: six runs or four runs or something like a third
24:29
Speaker 2: of an Indian against Cleveland in the previous series. So
24:33
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that is a prime example as to
24:35
Speaker 2: why I don't trust relief pitchers. You have to trust him,
24:38
Speaker 2: You got to use them. But they didn't think he
24:40
Speaker 2: was going to come out here and shut us down
24:42
Speaker 2: one time and then yesterday come out there and for
24:44
Speaker 2: three innings, because it was three different innings that he
24:47
Speaker 2: came out there, got had a little bit of an issue,
24:49
Speaker 2: and yet wiggled his way off the hook. He most
24:52
Speaker 2: certainly was a contributor to letting them keep the momentum
24:55
Speaker 2: that they had seized.
24:55
Speaker 1: All Right, we kind of resigned ourselves between Bucky and
24:58
Speaker 1: I to Luis Castillo's starts. Kirby comes out of the bullpen.
25:03
Speaker 1: I prefer to start an inning, not to come in
25:06
Speaker 1: with any kind of traffic or to start out of
25:08
Speaker 1: the stretch or anything like that. But all hands on deck.
25:11
Speaker 1: That includes I mean, if you've got to get six
25:13
Speaker 1: seven outs out of Munnos, you get six seven outs
25:16
Speaker 1: if he's strong and mowing them down. So all hands
25:20
Speaker 1: on deck for this when it comes to the pitchers,
25:22
Speaker 1: Q is for questionable. I mean it ended up. I
25:26
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean maybe sliding doors. It does impact
25:30
Speaker 1: the outcome. I'm not going to make too big of
25:33
Speaker 1: a deal out of an umpire's call when your relievers
25:36
Speaker 1: give up nine runs over the course of four innings.
25:40
Speaker 1: But man, I don't know how that foul ball I
25:44
Speaker 1: think down the third base line was called fair, and
25:48
Speaker 1: we all understand that as long as it goes over
25:51
Speaker 1: the base, and even just the you know, the arc
25:54
Speaker 1: just takes it over the base, it doesn't have to
25:56
Speaker 1: land fair on the other side of the bag. But
25:59
Speaker 1: I don't see how it even went over the bag fair.
26:03
Speaker 2: Did you No? No, it looked from the press box
26:06
Speaker 2: it looked foul for sure. And then I'm like, okay,
26:09
Speaker 2: I don't have a real good angle on it. I mean,
26:12
Speaker 2: typically you can see a ball, I mean if it
26:15
Speaker 2: bounces like within a foot. Now, when it hits again
26:18
Speaker 2: past third base, it doesn't have to be fair, like
26:20
Speaker 2: you just said. But if it's like within a foot,
26:22
Speaker 2: you're like that quite possibly could have been hooking over
26:25
Speaker 2: the base. This thing was a foot and a half
26:28
Speaker 2: two feet left of the foul pult where it hits.
26:32
Speaker 2: It was a high arc.
26:33
Speaker 1: It's a higher arc than you normally see from a
26:35
Speaker 1: foul ball in that say.
26:36
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, it's not something you can challenge. Any ball
26:39
Speaker 2: that basically hits in fair play in front of the umpires,
26:44
Speaker 2: you can't challenge it. They're just saying, Nope, that guy's
26:46
Speaker 2: looking right down the line. He has the best view
26:48
Speaker 2: of anybody. We have to take his word on it.
26:51
Speaker 2: But to me, that seemed like it seemed like the
26:53
Speaker 2: wrong call. And that's probably partially my heart talking, but
26:57
Speaker 2: it also seemed like when you're talking about sliding doors,
26:59
Speaker 2: that was Zzardo's first guy that he faced. All of
27:02
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's a double, and and then uh and
27:06
Speaker 2: and and so now you just lost the lead to
27:09
Speaker 2: Spier's home run or the home run that Spired gave up.
27:12
Speaker 2: And then he all of a sudden gives up the double.
27:13
Speaker 2: Then McKinstry goes single, then you pick him off, and
27:16
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, they still end up attacking
27:18
Speaker 2: a couple more on later on, and then Bias kind
27:20
Speaker 2: of blows it out. That was the biggest turning point
27:23
Speaker 2: in the game. I mean, the turning point when they
27:25
Speaker 2: caught back up was huge. The home run and then
27:28
Speaker 2: the rest of that inning. What happened after that double
27:30
Speaker 2: was called fair is where the basically the wheels fell off.
27:34
Speaker 2: So finally that, as I said, I was so mad,
27:37
Speaker 2: I was yelling out the television.
27:39
Speaker 1: It looked like a terrible call. And you have extra
27:42
Speaker 1: umpires for the playoffs. I mean, you're you're showing they're
27:45
Speaker 1: showing the bad call in my estimation, and you see
27:49
Speaker 1: two umpires standing there watching it go down, and yet
27:53
Speaker 1: it's not reviewable, so you just had to go with it. Again,
27:56
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna blame any I'm not gonna come anywhere
27:59
Speaker 1: close to blame and the loss on it. I blame
28:01
Speaker 1: the loss on Spire and Bizardo, and not out of anger.
28:04
Speaker 1: They just didn't have it yesterday. But nonetheless, it did
28:08
Speaker 1: look like a terrible call, and you expect better in
28:11
Speaker 1: the playoffs when you have extra eyeballs on the problem. Finally,
28:14
Speaker 1: r is four reserves. I don't get the canzone pinch hit.
28:22
Speaker 1: I mean I understand maybe a little later on in
28:26
Speaker 1: the game, but when he is one for one with
28:30
Speaker 1: an RBI single that got your scoring started, and his
28:33
Speaker 1: splits against lefties are kind of on par with Mitch Garver's.
28:36
Speaker 1: I get that Mitch Garver is better against lefties, but
28:39
Speaker 1: he's not really better than Dom against lefties. I don't
28:43
Speaker 1: understand why you make that decision and then lose can Zone.
28:47
Speaker 2: For the rest of the game. It makes zero sense.
28:49
Speaker 2: If there's one thing that beritained me the most. And
28:51
Speaker 2: I know that part of this is because I look
28:53
Speaker 2: through Pooh colored glasses whenever I see Garver. It was
28:56
Speaker 2: a horrible decision. Not a big seller by the way. Yeah,
29:01
Speaker 2: but then people didn't like him. But kan Zone comes
29:03
Speaker 2: up and sees one pitch and scorches an RBI single
29:08
Speaker 2: to right field, and then all right, thanks kid, go
29:11
Speaker 2: sit down because we're gonna bring in Mitch Garver. Oh god,
29:16
Speaker 2: I mean, he did the best thing you can got it.
29:18
Speaker 2: He he did the best possible thing he could do
29:21
Speaker 2: battle for a walk, and it did put us in
29:23
Speaker 2: a basis loaded situation. So he did his job to
29:26
Speaker 2: the best of his ability. Uh. And yet it just
29:29
Speaker 2: is one of those you then have to think you're
29:31
Speaker 2: doing this in the fourth inning, You're there's gonna be
29:34
Speaker 2: another rioting that's gonna come in, meaning you're gonna then
29:36
Speaker 2: have to go to Luke Rayley. And I love Luke Rayley,
29:38
Speaker 2: but Luke Rayley has had a bad year. He's been injured.
29:41
Speaker 2: Now when Luke's up there for two times, you're like,
29:43
Speaker 2: just throw let one get away inside so he can
29:45
Speaker 2: turn into it because he's just not having good abs
29:48
Speaker 2: full Bobby Grove on it. One hundred. To me, it
29:52
Speaker 2: was a you just you just made your offense worse
29:54
Speaker 2: by taking canzone out right there. And now we're probably
29:57
Speaker 2: gonna see Garver starting at d H and set of
30:00
Speaker 2: canzone since we're going against Jerk Scouble. Let me get
30:03
Speaker 2: him out of the game earlier.
30:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, well considering, yeah, then then he could get pinch
30:07
Speaker 1: hit for the second at bat.
30:08
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's the logic. I would imagine
30:12
Speaker 2: they will start him. Yeah, and if Scooble goes deep
30:16
Speaker 2: into the game, he's just dice Garver up three times.
30:19
Speaker 1: M Yeah, that was a that was I thought a
30:22
Speaker 1: mistake from Dan too early of a poll.
30:26
Speaker 2: Just go ahead and let him get one more at.
30:27
Speaker 1: That I mean, you're even up at that point, Yeah,
30:30
Speaker 1: so just give him the at bat and like if
30:33
Speaker 1: you kick it, you kick it.
30:34
Speaker 2: It's not like, oh man, what kind of damage would
30:36
Speaker 2: Garver have done there? You kind of walk? No one
30:40
Speaker 2: thought that.
30:41
Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, if you didn't hear my
30:43
Speaker 1: conversation with Logan Gilbert after the game last night, we'll
30:46
Speaker 1: replay it for you. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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Speaker 1: the road the last three days covering for you the
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Speaker 1: American League Divisional Series, and it is going to go
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Speaker 1: to a fifth game tomorrow at five o'clock. Certainly a
31:17
Speaker 1: crushing loss for the Mariners. Yesterday they were up three
31:20
Speaker 1: to nothing. I think they could sense, maybe they couldn't
31:23
Speaker 1: yet smell or taste victory and wrapping up the division
31:28
Speaker 1: in four games, but I think everybody had a sense
31:31
Speaker 1: that it was moving in that direction, only for it
31:34
Speaker 1: to fall apart, starting in the bottom of the fifth
31:36
Speaker 1: when Detroit scored three times, and then four more times
31:39
Speaker 1: in the sixth, and then before it's over with, it
31:41
Speaker 1: looks like a blowout. In the box score. Nine to
31:44
Speaker 1: three is the final score. So needless to say, when
31:48
Speaker 1: I went down to the clubhouse after the game last night,
31:50
Speaker 1: I wasn't dealing with a bunch of professional athletes in
31:53
Speaker 1: a good mood.
31:54
Speaker 2: That was a somber tone certainly in the locker room.
31:58
Speaker 1: But I did have a chance to catch up with
32:00
Speaker 1: a guy that really didn't participate in the game yesterday
32:04
Speaker 1: or contribute to the loss. And that is a starting pitcher,
32:08
Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert, who went in game number three. But this
32:11
Speaker 1: is a guy that's been with the Mariners his entire career,
32:15
Speaker 1: is beloved in the locker room, and to me felt
32:17
Speaker 1: like a great guy to chat with to get the
32:20
Speaker 1: sense of how the locker room was feeling after blowing
32:23
Speaker 1: that game. So here's my conversation last night with Logan.
32:26
Speaker 1: What can you say tough one tonight? You didn't play Obviously,
32:30
Speaker 1: you didn't pitch, obviously, but but I mean talk about
32:35
Speaker 1: your team and it's resilience and how Logan Gilbert's.
32:39
Speaker 2: Not worried how you're going to bounce back from this.
32:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think any time in the year we've gotten
32:43
Speaker 3: in a point where we had to win, or things
32:45
Speaker 3: had to change or whatever, we've kind of come through.
32:47
Speaker 3: So I think we're in a really good spot. Our
32:50
Speaker 3: arms are ready to go, our bats are good, and
32:52
Speaker 3: so obviously you want to win this one. But I
32:55
Speaker 3: think going back to T Mobile especially, it's really hard
32:57
Speaker 3: to be us in Seattle.
33:00
Speaker 1: I know how close you guys are as pictures, and
33:02
Speaker 1: we were talking about it a lot on today's show.
33:05
Speaker 2: And so when a guy like Gabe.
33:08
Speaker 1: Who's been so good all year along and Bizardo has
33:10
Speaker 1: been so good all year long, struggle like they did
33:13
Speaker 1: in a big moment, what do you guys do to
33:15
Speaker 1: rally around them and pick them up.
33:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't change anything. I mean that's they've proven
33:19
Speaker 3: who they are for years now, so stuff looks great.
33:24
Speaker 3: We have all the confidence in the world and those
33:26
Speaker 3: guys and they've saved my runs and other runs plenty
33:29
Speaker 3: of times. So, like I said, I think our arms
33:32
Speaker 3: are in a really good position.
33:35
Speaker 1: The entire crowd in Detroit felt like they'd given up.
33:37
Speaker 1: I mean, they just felt like they were dead in
33:39
Speaker 1: the water. How are you guys feeling before they started
33:42
Speaker 1: turning things around.
33:46
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought we did a good job for
33:50
Speaker 3: most of the two games, kind of taking the crowd
33:52
Speaker 3: out of it, even getting the early start today, Bruce
33:55
Speaker 3: looked great. We got a couple of runs right away,
33:56
Speaker 3: so from that standpoint, things look good. And I mean
34:02
Speaker 3: there were some emptcs too, like it wasn't sold out
34:04
Speaker 3: or anything, so it's kind of crazy to see that
34:06
Speaker 3: in a playoff game. But I think, just focus on
34:10
Speaker 3: what we can do and get ready for Game five.
34:13
Speaker 1: Keep in mind he can overhear you. But what did
34:15
Speaker 1: you think of Bryce today? I don't want to be
34:18
Speaker 1: too nice.
34:20
Speaker 3: He looked good. He looked really good.
34:22
Speaker 2: I told him after.
34:22
Speaker 3: That's probably the best I've seen him in a long time,
34:24
Speaker 3: and that's how he's been for a couple of weeks
34:26
Speaker 3: now in bullpens and even games. But stuff wise and execution,
34:30
Speaker 3: everything was there. So it's fun to see what you
34:32
Speaker 3: think Friday is going to be, Like Loud, It's gonna
34:35
Speaker 3: be fun.
34:36
Speaker 1: Good luck man, Thank you Logan Gilbert after the game
34:40
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, I know he didn't participate in the
34:43
Speaker 1: contest yesterday, but that's that's lovable Walter right there. Everybody
34:47
Speaker 1: on the team loves him, respects him, and I thought,
34:50
Speaker 1: this is a good person right now to talk about
34:53
Speaker 1: this team and it's mindset, and I thought that he
34:56
Speaker 1: represented it pretty well.
34:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's the beauty of you down
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Speaker 2: there and getting that as I want the fans, who
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Speaker 2: obviously are frustrated and scared and worried about the fact
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Speaker 2: that there's a game five when you could have possibly
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Speaker 2: won it right there and things were looking good for
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Speaker 2: the first half of the game, is to get the
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Speaker 2: impression of what they're feeling. And that's not just talk, right.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he maybe wouldn't say if there was a worry, right.
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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that they were flying flying
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Speaker 2: back from Detroit last night not knowing, Okay, we got
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Speaker 2: to go do it against Google. That's no easy task.
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Speaker 2: They get it. They recognize that they just made the
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Speaker 2: task harder on themselves by the way in which a
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Speaker 2: couple guys came in and didn't do what they typically would.
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Speaker 2: But to me, I think it's great to get the impression.
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Speaker 2: I bet if you go around and ask all those guys,
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Speaker 2: they might be a little bit shorter and might be
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Speaker 2: a little bit frustrated because of the way that second
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Speaker 2: half of the game went. And yet none of them are.
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Speaker 2: None of them are just like well, Vegas says we're
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Speaker 2: going to lose so we just screwed that up and
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Speaker 2: that's the beauty of it, and it's it's uh yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's uh. It creates more stress for sure. I mean
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Speaker 2: I'm more stressed now than I was, you know, the
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Speaker 2: fourth inning of yesterday's game. But at the same time,
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Speaker 2: it's I still just think it could be that much sweeter.
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Speaker 2: And if there's one thing this this team likes is drama.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think fans, uh, you know, fans
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Speaker 1: ride the roller coaster of emotions. Analysts, talk show hosts,
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Speaker 1: we sort of stir up that conversation certainly, and some
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Speaker 1: of us get a little more over the top than
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Speaker 1: others when it comes to this sort of thing. But
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Speaker 1: people need to always keep in mind the players really
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Speaker 1: don't operate that way. The longer they've been, the higher
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Speaker 1: they reach in terms of the level. I mean, even
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Speaker 1: gave Spier, I thought he was going to be beside himself.
36:47
Speaker 1: I thought maybe he would be one of the guys
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Speaker 1: that grabbed his bag and snuck out the back and
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Speaker 1: didn't want to face the media. And not only did
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Speaker 1: he face the media, I mean he was he didn't
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Speaker 1: even he's out of like that happens. I mean, sound
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Speaker 1: like he was blaming himself or hard on himself or
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Speaker 1: anything like that. He was disappointed that he didn't get
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Speaker 1: the results, but he it was all about let's get
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Speaker 1: ready for game number five. Even Cow, every single question
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Speaker 1: that Cow was asked by the media, I think he
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Speaker 1: slipped in there. Hey, it's just all about game five.
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Speaker 1: I think everything they could have asked him. What's your
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Speaker 1: favorite sandwich?
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Speaker 2: Game five? You know, you know what was your what
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Speaker 2: was your first word? Game five? Yeah? Yeah, Well, I
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Speaker 2: mean that's the beauty of competition. And the more you play,
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Speaker 2: the longer you play, the more competition you've experienced. Part
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Speaker 2: of competition as you sometimes fail. I mean we were
37:44
Speaker 2: talking about yesterday and with a lot of people that
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Speaker 2: boy JP Crawford's throws offline. Think about how many throws online? Right? Oh,
37:51
Speaker 2: Josh Nator made a big air for us then yesterday.
37:53
Speaker 2: You see him as a ball magnet now that he's
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Speaker 2: a dad, and he made all of them and made
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Speaker 2: some really smart plays along with it. It's just it's
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Speaker 2: what you want. You want the opportunity to succeed, But
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Speaker 2: what comes with that is the opportunity to fail. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: what's your favorite taco topping? Game five. All right, Ryan
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Speaker 2: Healy will join us at nine point thirty.
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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, coming up next on the program,
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Speaker 1: we have a major sporting event to starting here in
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Speaker 1: Seattle tonight, the start of the hockey season. And even
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