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Football at Four: A Discussion on Jalen Hurts and His ESPN Ranking · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We got another Moscher mail bag Monday edition of Football
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  at Four. Jeff Boscher, of course, is a host of
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  the Inside the Birds podcast with Adam Kaplan Andrew Toiceco.
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  They joined us each and every day at four o'clock
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  for Football at four here on the Sports Bash Live
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  on ninety seven three ESPN. A lot of people today
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  obviously talking Jalen Hurts. You and I talked about Hurts
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  on Wednesday show, Jeff. He was kind of the basis
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  of the topic of conversation. Somebody asked me what the
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  story of the Eagles was for me, and I said,
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  what's the next act for Jalen Hurts? Well, of course
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  the list season is here. Jalen Hurts coming in at
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  number nine on the list has some people up in arms,
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  and we've talked about the disrespect that Jalen Hurts has had.
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  Speaker 2: Does nine feel about right for you?
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  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels on that list at number five overall? Evan
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  Cohen was on with us earlier. He thinks that Hurts
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  is the most disrespected quarterback in the NFL. Why do
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  we think that that Hurts is so polarizing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh man?
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I think we talked about it in
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  the last episode right or last time we were even
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  discussing this.
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  Speaker 3: It has a lot to do with.
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  Speaker 5: How the rest of the league views the entire Eagles roster,
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  how Jalen Hurts himself plays the game. They are all
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  variety of reasons of why.
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  Speaker 4: The rankings for Jalen probably aren't as high as Eagles
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  fans would like it to be and consider it disrespectful.
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  But listen, I think that there's something to also be
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  said where if you ask like enough people who are
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  objective or who have a good understanding of the game,
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  who are analysts, and who are being fair, and Jalen
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  Hurts keeps coming up outside of the top five, then
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  that probably speaks to something about how we in Philadelphia
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  or fans in Philadelphia viewing versus the rest of the league.
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  A lot of these people who are taking these surveys,
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  I mean, I imagine they're analysts of the game and
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  they watch tape in there, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Not just slubs who live in Idaho.
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  Speaker 4: Right. That's why I have to assume when they when
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  ESPN or NFL network comes out with their lists and
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  things like that. So you know, the truth, Mike, as
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  they always say, lies somewhere in between.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this is executive scouts, coaches who right now
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  are saying, look, would I like to have Jalen Hurts? Yes,
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  but if I had the opportunity to draft some of
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  these other guys or pick some of these other guys,
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  it's no knock on him. But there's ten pretty good
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  quarterbacks in this league. And then I think there's probably
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  a dip there. So, you know, you take a look
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  at people's opinions, they vary from you know what style.
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  I think Hurts fits very well in this offense. Does
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  Justin Herbert fit as well in the Eagles offense?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what quarterback who's good wouldn't
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  fit in the Eagles offense.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I just didn't.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like it's a system, a real uh what
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  a real defined system, you know, Like there are certain systems,
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  like we talk about Kyle Shanahan's offense. It might fit
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  one quarterback over the other, or one quarterback has a
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  certain type of skills set over another. But I think
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  the Eagles have done a good job right adapting to whoever.
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  Speaker 3: Their personality, who the quarterback is.
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  Speaker 4: Because when Tanner McKee went in there, He's sure looked
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  pretty good, even though he doesn't have anything.
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  Speaker 3: Near the skill set or traits of Jalen Hurts.
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  Speaker 4: So there are some there are some teams that just
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  do a good enough job assembling a coaching staff in
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  an offense that they don't need you to fit a
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  certain archetype.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get a couple questions on this. Phil has this one.
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  He says Hurts actively sought Michael Jordan out this offseason
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  for advice on how to keep a championship mindset. He's
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  seeking out advice from the goat. What does that tell you, Jeff?
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  Is he building a hall of fame resume? Talk about
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  a hall of fame resume? Now for Jalen Hurt. Who
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  would have thought that? Would they drafted? And that's from
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  Phil in Brigantine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know that that says anything
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  about what kind of resume he's building or what kind
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  of player he's going to.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, there's a connection there.
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  Speaker 4: Because he's a Jordan, Jialen Hurts, I believe, as a
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  spokesperson for the Jordan brand, like for their football division.
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  So you would think at some point he was going
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  to meet Michael Jordan and have some kind of conversations
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  with him. But Nick Sirianni, for example, has done something similar.
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  Speaker 3: He has talked about.
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  Speaker 4: How he has talked to a lot of coaches who
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  have won multiple championships to sort of pick their brain
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  on what it is they did after winning the first one,
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  to make sure that they were continuously successful and able
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  to win more. I think Popovich was among the lists
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  of people he spoke too. I know he named a
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  couple of coaches, some college coaches as well, and then
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  just some like Dawn Staley I think he said he spoke.
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  Speaker 3: To as well.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that that just shows that Hurts and
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  Sirianni are the type of coach and player who are
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  not just satisfied with winning at all and are very
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  hungry and are very competitive to keep winning and keep
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  proving it.
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  Speaker 3: Which is great, that's what you want.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: You take a look at from Phil you know, yes,
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  he is out apparently in Greece right now. I think
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  with Michael Jordan, Jalen Hurts is and you know, yeah,
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  you're picking Michael Jordan's brain on what do I do
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  to win a second Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: Can't hurt. There is he building a Hall of fame resume?
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  I don't know what was the hall of fame. I
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  mean he's like a Troy Aikman.
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  Speaker 4: Are you making fun of me because we had this
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  conversation last time?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, but you're right. I mean no, I'm not
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  making fun of you, but you're right.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a Troy Aikman where I guess, yeah, last
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  week we were talking about this where the numbers don't
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  say Hall of Famer, but the accolades.
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  Speaker 4: Do, right, and not even just the numbers, just like, yeah,
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  I used Terry Bradshaw, I use Troy Aikman and a
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  little bit of a Joe Flacco comparison in that just
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  won a lot of games. One championships with Joe it
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  was only one, but I mean he was in the
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  playoffs every year for the first six or seven years
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  of his career. But even I like you would just say,
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  if we sat down and said name the five best
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  quarterbacks from nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety five, you're probably
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  going Montana Young and some other guys before you get
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  to Akman Marino. Same thing and same thing of Bradshaw's er,
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  although that's I'm not as familiar with the seventies.
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  Speaker 3: But I you know, I would hear from people.
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  Speaker 4: Who cover the game or watch the game before me
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  that there were some guys when you named your top
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  three or four best quarterbacks, Bradshaws wouldn't be among them.
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  Maybe not like Johnny Unitas or something, right, but still
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  he's four super Bowls in and well, how about it?
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  Speaker 2: And we talk about perception.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we probably talked about this Wednesday, but the
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  perception of what hurts was when he's the league, and
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  how hard it is for you to change your mindset
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  of what your perception was to what now you have
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  to adjust it to actually be.
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  Speaker 2: That's hard for people.
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  Speaker 4: It is, it is, And this is why I really
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  don't like rankings all together with because they change every year.
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  Speaker 3: I remember a couple of years ago, Matt Stafford in
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  these polls that we were talking about.
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  Speaker 4: That that are coming out now, was not anybody's top
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  ten because it was a year after he had won
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  the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: He was hurt they went six and tactic there they
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  missed the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: He was, you know, not a hurt and b the
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  team wasn't that good, and all of a sudden, he's stunk.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody like Matt Stafford anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And now you know, two or three years later, he's
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  been back to the playoffs two the last three years,
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  went to the NAC Divisional game, gave it the Eagles
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  the best, and now he's back and everybody's good graces again.
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  Speaker 3: So that's why I only take these things with a
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  great salt. Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Plus, Lane Johnson is I think a couple of years
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  ago wasn't even in the top one hundred, which is
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  he's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And what we say these are all but
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  these come from this list, comes from scouts, executives, coaching.
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  That's why I think people put a little bit more
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  into this one potentially.
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  Speaker 3: Are I agree? I agree that I think that's fair.
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  Speaker 4: Although I did see that someone someone tweeted that in
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  that list, like someone put Lamar Jackson sixth, and it's
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  like there are five better quarterbacks and Lamar Jackson, really,
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  I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson was number four on that He was number.
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  Speaker 3: Four overall, but one person one executive.
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  Speaker 1: Right, His lowest ranking was six, His highest ranking was
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  number one overall. The one I think that has people
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  rankled is Jaden Daniels being the number five guy. Then
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  it was Matthew Stafford, then Justin Herbert and then Jared Goff,
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  then Jalen Hurts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I you know, listen, that's that surprises me.
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  You know, I think if I were doing the list,
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  I would have Hurts higher in that at least two
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  wrong to higher. But again, what does it say when
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  this many people don't like it? It's all it's all
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  subjective anyway. It just means that a lot of people
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  who you know should have an enlightened opinion and a
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  good objective.
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  Speaker 1: Well do you think, Jeff, do you think, Jeff, this
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  is a like, hey, if he was our quarterback, maybe
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  we wouldn't be as good. Maybe, like that's the right
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  offense for him.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's more that that's the right fifty three
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  man roster for him, or that he is a beneficiary
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  of some great talent.
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  Speaker 3: Which is not untrue. But like you know, it just
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  depends on how far you want to go.
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  Speaker 4: Jimmy Kempski fill The Voice wrote a really good article
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  about it today, so did Andrew Checho, where they both
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  had quotes from Siriani basically saying it's bs that people
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  constantly say that he benefits from a good roster, and
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  then he nicknamed all these quarterbacks like Montana, like Young,
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  like Peyton Manning right, who had really good players around
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  him too, which is sort of a strong man argument
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  a little bit, but I understand what the point was. So,
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  but I do think that is the I think when
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  people start saying, oh, man, I think, you know, like
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  someone like Gino Smith, who I like, good quarterback, but
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  you know he hasn't accomplished anything in his career, or
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  Trevor Lawrence. If you put Trevor Lawrence with the Eagles,
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  he's winning a Super Bowl. That's why I think he
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  gets taken way too far. I mean, and I feel
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  that way about Justin Herbert too. I'm I'm a fan
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  of Justin Herbert's game, but I'm probably less high on
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  him than some others. I just every time I watch him,
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  I feel like there's something missing. And while I'll admit
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  when I watched Jalen Hurts, I'll be the first to
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  say there are things missing in his game as a passer,
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  throwing over the middle, some of the way he takes sacks,
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  but at least he's proven he can win a Super
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  Bowl and be an excellent player in the playoffs even
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  without it. I haven't seen Justin Herbert overcome his own
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  flaws yet, so I wouldn't put Justin Herbert over Jalen Hurts.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that doesn't mean six years from now.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Justin Herbert is more reputation where he
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  was drafted. Arm talent, like the fact that he's got
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  this great arm his size where he was drafted and
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  you have this, and you know he came in as
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  a rookie. He put up gaudy numbers right off the bat,
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  and then the team is just not one with him.
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  Speaker 2: That has been the problem.
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  Speaker 4: That's correct, And it's not like last year's team was
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  a bad team that had a really good defense, good
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  offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Running in was okay.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, he needs more weapons, but they got im Lad mccackey. Like,
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  if Justin Herbert doesn't win playoff games this year, I
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  think people have to drop the love affair with him,
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  assuming that the team stays relatively healthy, because they're pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get some more Bostion your mailbag Monday questions.
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  Let's go to Steven Galloway. How different will Kevin Batoula's
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  offense look from what we saw under Kellen Moore, Steve
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  wants to know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question, Steve, and you know you
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  should read Andrew to Checko's article on Inside the Birds
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  dot Com today about that in general. And the honest
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  answer is, nobody really knows yet what it's going to
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  look like. But we do know that when they speak
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  about a new iteration of the offense.
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  Speaker 3: And opening up the offense, they're not talking about like
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  new and dynamic ways to run the ball.
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  Speaker 4: They're talking about ways of getting the pass offense up
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  to speed, freshening the concepts, and so I think when
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  you're looking at that without being like so exy and oy,
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  I definitely think that there's room for this team to
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  be better in the screen game. I think that there's
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  room for this team to be better in the short
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  to intermediate game if Jillen Hurts does a better job
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  of sort of identifying it quickly and seeing it and
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  releasing it. I mean, they're obviously very good downfield, they're
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  very good in the RPO game, and I do think
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  the addition of Avery Williams Mike, if that works out
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  the way they wanted to. He was obviously out of
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  all the OTA's with an injury, but maybe a little
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  bit more of a gadgetry where you're not gimmicky, but
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  you're doing things like the forty nine ers do, where
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  you have a multifaceted weapon that you try to get
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  the ball in the hands of All.
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  Speaker 1: Right, let's go Bosher Mailbag Monday. Question from Jeff and
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  Washington Township. What's the early plan for Saquon Barkley's usage.
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  Do you think they'll use more of the other running
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  backs this season?
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  Speaker 4: Well, like Mike Tyson once said Jeff in Washington Township,
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  everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth, right,
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  So I think the Eagles plan is, Hey, let's try
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  to like get Will Shipley and maybe aj Dillon more involved.
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  Let's try to take the mileage off of Saquon Barkley.
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  Let's try to open up the passing offense. But if
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  they start off two and two again, and if things
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  don't look good offensively, guess what old reliable is, give
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  the ball to Saquon Barkley. So while I'm sure the
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  early plan is to try not to have him on
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  the trajectory for another four hundred touches this year. Those
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  best way plans can go to waste if things aren't
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  working better around him.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to This one is from Steve
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  in different Steve. This is Stephen Ventner here. Let me
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  get this one up for you here. He wants to
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  know should the Eagles try to acquire a tight end two,
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  wide receiver three or at a veteran to the secondary
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  like a Sante Samuel or Justin Simmons.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I can't imagine that they should acquire a
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  tight end too. They've been doing that basically all off
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  season between Kylan Grantson and Harrison Bryant.
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  Speaker 3: They have VJ.
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  Speaker 4: Jenkins, have Greg Calcaterra, and there's four guys. Oh, they've
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  at the end of last year they brought in Nick
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  Muse and Cameron Lot too.
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  Speaker 3: I think they've got about eleven tight ends.
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  Speaker 4: It seems all battling to see who's gonna be two
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  and three, And same thing with wide receiver three.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they brought in Terres Marshall.
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  Speaker 4: They have a Naias Smith and Johnny Wilson and Danny
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  Gray all battling it out.
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  Speaker 3: So for a team that plays a lot of two
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  tight ended offense. I don't think they meet oh and
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  John Dotson, of course.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they need too many more options to
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  audition at wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: Three.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're gonna pick one of those spots, you
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  would pick the secondary and probably safety. But you're gonna
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  let some competition here play out first and see how
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  it goes before you do that.
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  Speaker 1: You like, it'sante Samuel. I mean, he's obviously a bigger name,
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  not Justin Simmons. Is a being I'm talking about for
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  a corner. Samuel was a high draft choice. His dad
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  played here. The Eagle fans always love, you know, the
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  connections there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he was great in two thousand and ten
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  and nine, he got a little bit old. Oh yes,
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  I'm sorry, wrong, you mean, I'm trying to be witty
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  like Mike McCarry.
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  Speaker 3: Is that working? That guy is all full of great
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  puns and wit. I'm just trying to be like him.
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  But so if it's working, let me know. If it's not,
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  I'll just stop.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think that he was dealing with an
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  injury st.
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  Speaker 4: He's been bad, yes, yeah, yeah, but I mean that's
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  why you brought in adri Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: You're you really want Killey Ringo to win the job.
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  But if you don't have a veteran like a dory.
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  Speaker 4: Now, if neither of them are looking good and Mac
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  McWilliams doesn't, you know, really you're not loving it. And
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  and Sante Samuel is healthy, he would be like one
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  of those good one year proven type signings as long
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  as healthy.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this question from Ken and
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  May's Landing a Motion mail Bag Monday. Question, Jeff, do
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  you view Cam Jurgens as one of the leaders on
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  the team. I wonder if that has anything to do
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  with the guy he replaced.
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  Speaker 4: I you know, he's really only about to enter his
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  second year as a starting center, in third year as
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  a starting offensive lineman. I think the offensive lineman that
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  has become a leader that's not named Lane Johnson and
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  obviously no longer Jason Kelsey's Jordan Malatta.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's stepping into a leadership.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I see it the way he speaks for the team,
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  the way he's.
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  Speaker 4: More confident in putting his opinion on things out there.
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  When the team wasn't doing him so well last year,
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  he talked about it, and when the team was pulling
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  together in the middle of the year, he was front
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  and center. I see my lotta right now, taking that
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  on a little bit more than Cam Jurgen's.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Mosher Monday Mailbag. How does the right guard
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  battle shake out? Is Tyler Steen the heavy favorite or
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  will someone push him for that job like what happened
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  last year?
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  Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna say this so and no, no, no,
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  I'm not the only one who feels this way.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Tyler Steen is the leader in the clubhouse, He's
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  the favorite. I think he'd have to either get hurt.
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  Speaker 4: Or the guy they acquired from Houston, Kenyan Green, would
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  have to be like an overnight unbelievable success to make
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  this to be able to beat out Steen. However, I
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  don't think we should count out Matt Pryor here. Matt
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  Pryor didn't have a great first time around with the Eagles,
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  but after he left the Eagles, he wound up starting
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  a decent number of games.
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  Speaker 3: He played for the Colts, he played left tackle for
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  a team. He played for the Bears. Now, he didn't
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  play well left tackle. That's not where you want him.
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  Speaker 2: But my point is.
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  Speaker 4: He stuck around, played for three different teams, got a
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  lot of starts. So he clearly established himself as good
• 17:10
  enough to be a starting guard on a bad team
• 17:14
  and a good backup on a good team. But right now,
• 17:16
  with Tyler Steen still competing, if Matt Pryor could come
• 17:19
  back right and improve under Jeff Stalton more and do
• 17:24
  something differently than the first time around, then would it
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  completely totally stunned me if he was the right guard.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it still would.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: But I guess that would mean that Steen and Green
• 17:35
  didn't really seize it, but that Matt Pryor is on
• 17:37
  that at least stout fields Stealton feels comfortable with playing.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know there are I like in this group
• 17:44
  to the twenty seventeen team where Sayamalis started, then they
• 17:49
  went to Warmack and then they went to Wisnooski. So
• 17:53
  it was almost like they can do that here. Where
• 17:57
  Steen starts, you go to Kenyon Green, give him a
• 18:00
  little flash of an opportunity and if he can't do it,
• 18:02
  then you know you have Matt Pryor in your back pocket.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know some of the tackles that they're drafted,
• 18:08
  they may try to cross train and Sami. They also
• 18:10
  have Trevor Keegan who was drafted last year as a guard,
• 18:14
  so they've got some guys who can take that opportunity.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Matt Petersburg mosts your mailbag Monday. Does Jalen Hurts play
• 18:21
  a snap in the preseason?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Yes? Or no?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: No? Next question, do.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Any Eagles starters? Like are we past that now?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Where you get all these guys like they gotta play
• 18:30
  a series or two? They didn't play any series last
• 18:33
  year and they won the Super Bowl. I think those
• 18:35
  days are over.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I would think so maybe Jeremiah Trotter junior, you know,
• 18:40
  like somebody who's got to be a starter, but it's
• 18:43
  his first year starting. But other than that, probably maybe
• 18:46
  Andrew mccouba, who knows, but maybe even not.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: All right, This one's from Paul in Peeville, Pleasantville. Kind
• 18:54
  of a fun question here. Which NFC team has a
• 18:56
  head start on being awful for Archie?
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  Speaker 2: Who?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Which NFC team could be awful.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: For this question? By the way, By the way, Archie
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  Manning arch Manning.
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  Speaker 1: The other question came in last year we did an
• 19:11
  NFC mailbag, so this was one of the leftover ones
• 19:13
  that we never got to. But I told him we
• 19:15
  would get to it. This week, So Paul un pleasant,
• 19:17
  I promise you this week. So we were looking at
• 19:20
  NFC teams only as a headstart on being awful for Arch.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, why do we have to limit
• 19:27
  this NFC.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So you could open it up to the AFC. I
• 19:29
  think he was just playing by the rules.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I would go with.
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  Speaker 4: See, I like this team, but they definitely if they
• 19:40
  don't do well this year and things sort of spiral,
• 19:44
  you could see them really trying to tank or and
• 19:47
  that's the Cardinals because if they can't win behind our
• 19:51
  Kyler Murray this year with the additions that they've made
• 19:54
  and over the last few years, then they would be
• 19:57
  the ones that want Arch manning. You know, I can't
• 20:02
  imagine the Bears, even if the Bears stink again.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Are gonna move off of Caleb Williams after two years?
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe the Cowboys if Dak no, they can't, did you
• 20:11
  well they could because you know, I know Dak has
• 20:14
  owed a lot of money, but you know, a quarterback,
• 20:16
  even in the first round, you can, you can handle it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: But really, well, it's got to mean in the NFC,
• 20:22
  he's got to be two teams, right, It's the Saints
• 20:24
  I have no quarterback right now?
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, But you know what, I just don't think
• 20:29
  the Saints fifty three is all that bad. They've drafted
• 20:32
  on the offensive and defensive line. I mean, I suppose
• 20:35
  it could happen they're gonna start Tyler Schoff, right, so yeah,
• 20:39
  I could see that happening. But they don't play in
• 20:41
  a really really vicious division either, So I feel like,
• 20:44
  accidentally the Saints are gonna win five games.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I don't know.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I think the Saints their quarterback situation is pretty terrible
• 20:52
  right now. Then the Giants, Yeah, that's a good one.
• 21:00
  Could really use a quarterback, right, I mean, yeah, that's.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Actually a really good one. I'm surprised I didn't think
• 21:05
  about that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, there's a Buscher Mailbag Monday edition. Next Monday,
• 21:11
  we will have another mail Bag edition, and then the
• 21:13
  Eagles will report on Tuesday, and we'll be talking training
• 21:16
  camp next week right here on Football at Fort You excited.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm always excited, all right.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Man, see it?
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Take that McGarry, see it, Jeff Boucher, everybody from the
• 21:28
  Inside the Birds podcast, which you can get on all
• 21:31
  podcasting platforms just search Inside the Birds