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Hawkins and Ryder Reunite Q&A part 2 - FROM THE VAULT! · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's that time of the month.
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  Speaker 2: Time to get H-A-R-D. It's the Hard Foundation bonus episode
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  Speaker 2: with your hosts, the Major King Matt Cardona, Maximum Effort
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  Speaker 2: Brian Myers, and Dr. Silver Balls himself, Smart Mark Sterling!
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome everyone to the Hard Foundation bonus episode
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  Speaker 1: for the month of December 2021. This episode is about
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  Speaker 1: Hawkins and Ryder reuniting. This is actually part two, part one.
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  Speaker 1: It was dropped last month. I am joined by Hawkins
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  Speaker 1: and Ryder themselves first. Brian, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 4: It's the most professional wrestler, Impact Wrestling star, and the
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  Speaker 4: Scotty Pippen of Wrestling Figure Collecting. Mark threw me call
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  Speaker 4: me hawkins and threw me all off and i'm actually
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  Speaker 4: very excited to be here guys because i'll be dead
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  Speaker 4: honest with you that last podcast was like the height
• 1:01
  Speaker 4: of my covid and i don't even like remember it
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  Speaker 4: i was so sick and couldn't barely speak and got through.
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  Speaker 5: It oh wow well i'm i'm here as well still
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  Speaker 5: here uh matt cardona but i guess you can call
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  Speaker 5: me for this episode long island iz Zach Ryder.
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  Speaker 3: Eat and catering, Zach Ryder. That's what he said for
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  Speaker 3: this one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to be facilitating this.
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  Speaker 4: My good friend Brian pulled me out of catering back
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  Speaker 4: into relevancy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Gilbert, what were you doing?
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  Speaker 5: No, I 100% Well, I don't think there was any
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  Speaker 5: plans to ever make you win, but I definitely needed the.
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  Speaker 3: Rub as well.
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  Speaker 5: It was a mutual rub.
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  Speaker 3: Mutual rub. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'll be facilitating this. I think I went a
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  Speaker 5: whole calendar year. Maybe, I think maybe the 52nd week
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  Speaker 5: I got thrown into a battle royal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you were in it as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we talked about the last one, I think, actually.
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  Speaker 1: I will be facilitating this Q & A. I am SmartMarks. Now,
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  Speaker 1: last week, I mean, last month, we sort of set
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  Speaker 1: the scene.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but go listen to that one first, because that's
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  Speaker 5: where the meat and potatoes, this is kind of just
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  Speaker 5: the filler, because there were.
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  Speaker 3: So many more questions, so we wanted to keep going.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: So I got to listen to that. And then people
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  Speaker 1: ask questions underneath that video. So, um, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: we set the stage already, so let's just dive right
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  Speaker 1: into the questions or is there anything that you guys
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  Speaker 1: wanted to bring up before we went that you kind
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  Speaker 1: of remembered.
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  Speaker 5: Or there's something that should be said, um, that I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if a question will lead to it. So
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  Speaker 5: I want to get out of the way here is
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  Speaker 5: that I don't really like to live in regret, but
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  Speaker 5: there is definitely a couple of things in my career
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  Speaker 5: that I'm like, ugh, I wish I would have done that.
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  Speaker 5: One of those things, I'm not going to list all
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  Speaker 5: of them, but one of them is after WrestleMania 32,
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  Speaker 5: Edge and Christian both came up to me after I
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  Speaker 5: won the IC title, and they were so happy for me,
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  Speaker 5: so proud of me. And I should have just said, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 5: can we get a picture with me holding the belt,
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  Speaker 5: all three of us?
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  Speaker 3: And, like, I didn't, and it, like, it ate at
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  Speaker 3: me for so many years.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like I was meant to not get
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  Speaker 5: that picture because when Brian and I won the tag
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  Speaker 5: team titles, Edge and Christian were waiting, like, right outside.
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  Speaker 3: Gorilla for us.
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  Speaker 5: So, like, we were there in our gear with the titles, like, fuck,
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  Speaker 5: we're getting this picture now.
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  Speaker 3: We're getting this picture now.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm so glad I waited because I feel like
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  Speaker 5: it was meant to be us four as opposed to
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  Speaker 5: just the three, you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And, like... And the second that, like, for them to, like,
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  Speaker 3: go out of their way to, like, come meet us.
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  Speaker 5: If you're watching the video, right. If you're watching the video,
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  Speaker 5: it's the I was here. Like, you buy it, like,
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  Speaker 5: the shop, and it's us four with the towels. I
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  Speaker 5: think Brian has a similar frame, but it's him and
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  Speaker 5: his family.
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  Speaker 3: My wife and I had the whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, it's very, very, very touching that they, like,
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  Speaker 4: Literally went out of their way to come, you know,
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  Speaker 4: meet us in Gorilla.
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  Speaker 3: And they were so, you know, excited for us. Pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Also interesting that there were a couple of retired wrestlers
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  Speaker 1: at the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you know, it's mania. There's all kinds
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  Speaker 3: of guys around. It wasn't like, you know.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying at the time, which is not
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  Speaker 1: that long ago.
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  Speaker 3: And now they're out.
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  Speaker 1: There were retired wrestlers and now they're main roster superstars.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Another thing that was cool that we didn't really touch
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  Speaker 5: upon is that we got like the Mania plaque, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like the Shawn Michaels WrestleMania 12 plaque, which I thought
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  Speaker 5: was so cool that we got it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it right now. And it's cool. It
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  Speaker 3: has the piece of the mat.
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  Speaker 5: And it's cool when people come to the signings and
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  Speaker 5: have us sign it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like really cool. I like it, you know?
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  Speaker 5: And then something that was supposed to come out but
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  Speaker 5: never did, but I got set in the prototype.
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  Speaker 3: Brian never did, so I feel bad. I forgot all
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  Speaker 3: about this actually.
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  Speaker 5: It's like this big display case and it has a
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  Speaker 5: piece of the canvas and we signed it.
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  Speaker 3: Got made?
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  Speaker 5: It never got made. I don't know why it didn't
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  Speaker 5: get made, but they sent me the prototype.
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  Speaker 3: The merch guy.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a one of one or
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  Speaker 3: a one of five or what. Pouring salt in an
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  Speaker 3: old wound here.
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  Speaker 4: In my mind, they gave that to you like the
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  Speaker 4: way we got our Super 7s this week. It was
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  Speaker 4: just like the first ones that are ready and then
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  Speaker 4: I was going to get it when it came out
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  Speaker 4: and I just totally forgot about it and it never
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  Speaker 4: came out.
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  Speaker 3: You're right. Yeah, something like that. And then....
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  Speaker 5: You know, obviously we have the Comic-Con story where we
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  Speaker 5: thought for sure we were getting the figures because we
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  Speaker 5: have to set the stage here. So it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 5: we're doing this podcast, right? Now keep in mind, Brian
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  Speaker 5: had got elites as like a fucking loser. I got
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  Speaker 5: a retro. They're doing guys like Sting.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, now that we're not WWE guys, I can say,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't know how blatant I've made this over
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  Speaker 4: the years because my figure was in our podcast era.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Bill didn't even really want to do that. Right.
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  Speaker 4: He fought on it. I mean, in a way, he
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  Speaker 4: was trying to get me in lineups, I guess, and
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  Speaker 4: in a way, he wasn't. And then finally, he plugged
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  Speaker 4: me in there.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, the only reason I come with that wall and
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  Speaker 3: all this stuff is.
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  Speaker 4: Because he didn't think it was going to sell. He
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  Speaker 4: was looking for any added incentive to make me and
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  Speaker 4: hope to God I didn't warm the peg. And then
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  Speaker 4: I figured I wound up outselling everybody in the entire set.
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  Speaker 3: Which I'm very proud of. Yeah, so Brian got that figure.
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  Speaker 3: You need all the characters, Bill. Like, this is my
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  Speaker 3: only figure. Like, it's going to move.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Bill is such a mark. Like, well, Brian,
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  Speaker 5: you're not winning enough matches on TV.
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  Speaker 3: Like, come on, Bill. Yes, no. And I do hear them. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I know there's been certain things that they got, like,
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  Speaker 3: burnt on. For sure. Like the Singh brothers or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And, like, J & J security type shit. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know. I just thought mine was a different case. Right.
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  Speaker 5: So, Brian gets that, right? And then, like, a year prior,
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  Speaker 5: where I'm doing, like, nothing on the roster, because it's
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  Speaker 5: a year prior, we do the access, and that's where
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  Speaker 5: they show you the Mattel Elite, and they show me
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  Speaker 5: the retro. So, at the time, the retro is, like,
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  Speaker 5: they're making Cena, Triple H, Brock Lesnar, and then they
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  Speaker 5: just throw me in there, which I loved, but, like,
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  Speaker 5: it didn't quite make sense, you know? I'm like, all right.
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  Speaker 5: But it was like Mattel was doing me a favor, like,
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  Speaker 5: a nice thing, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Really appreciated it.
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  Speaker 4: I also kind of think that's why it's, like, Old
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  Speaker 4: school Zack Ryder, not modern day Zack Ryder, because.
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  Speaker 3: They could justify that it was over Zack Ryder, not
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  Speaker 3: Jabroni Zack Ryder. It's totally fine.
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  Speaker 5: The point I'm trying to prove is that a year,
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  Speaker 5: year and a half later, we're on TV.
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  Speaker 3: We have a podcast.
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  Speaker 5: We're the tag team of WrestleMania. We're the hosts of
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  Speaker 5: the fucking panel. So it's like a no-brainer. Oh, they're
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  Speaker 5: going to.
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  Speaker 3: Fucking show our figures. We're definitely getting figures. How would
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  Speaker 3: we not? A year prior, you're going to have prior.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not even on TV. I'm getting a retro that
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  Speaker 5: nobody gets retros. Brian's going to leave. He's like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Bill doesn't want to do it. So we're definitely going
• 7:51
  Speaker 5: to get figures. We're on stage. We're there. Was Becky
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  Speaker 5: Lynch there? They show Becky Lynch, her new figure. I
• 7:57
  Speaker 5: think Rey Mysterio's there.
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  Speaker 3: They show Rey.
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  Speaker 4: This is also the second time we've done it, and
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  Speaker 4: we crushed the prior year. We asked back to do
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  Speaker 4: it again because they basically knew, like, if you want
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  Speaker 4: talent to do this, we're the only two.
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  Speaker 3: That could do it. Without reading off a teleprompter. Without
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  Speaker 3: reading off a teleprompter. I mean, like, people are going
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  Speaker 3: to care. Right. Know the product.
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  Speaker 4: So, again, we're killing it. And I have no problem
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  Speaker 4: patting myself on the back for this. Like, we crush it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We're being charismatic.
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  Speaker 4: We're being funny. We're using, like, you know, insider toy
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  Speaker 4: lingo and shit.
• 8:27
  Speaker 5: We're clapping for Lucha House Party.
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  Speaker 3: That's, like, where it was hurting.
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: Like, you're showing off, like, okay, there's Kalisto's new figure,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm clapping, just thinking, okay, it doesn't matter because
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  Speaker 4: our figure's coming.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then like, I think someone did like, all right,
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: that's it. The wrap it up boys were like, what?
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  Speaker 3: You really brought us here? A new day two?
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  Speaker 5: And not saying they didn't deserve figures, they all do. Like,
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  Speaker 5: you really didn't, you couldn't give us a fucking figure?
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  Speaker 5: They did give us a Forky figure, which is like,
• 8:55
  Speaker 5: they threw a Ghostbuster out, which is cool. But that's,
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  Speaker 5: it's not, and then like, we kept getting, you know, told, oh,
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  Speaker 5: it's in a lineup.
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  Speaker 3: It's not in a lineup. It's in a lineup. It's
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: not a lineup.
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  Speaker 5: And then like, turns out, you know, I didn't re-sign
• 9:08
  Speaker 5: my contract, so they pulled me from the basic line.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to be in a basic set. They
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  Speaker 5: totally pulled me. Brian was still in. Brian, we've seen
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  Speaker 5: pictures of Brian. The public has not.
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: I have it saved in my phone.
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  Speaker 5: And then Brian gets released, and it doesn't come out anyway. So,
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  Speaker 5: I guess eventually there was going to be a plan,
• 9:28
  Speaker 5: but like, it was way too late.
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  Speaker 4: You had all this time. You had a full year.
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: I think what makes me and you salty about the
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: whole thing, and Dee Freedom has helped us out with
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: his information. I think WrestleMania 35 is the most toy-produced
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: roster of all time. I mean, like, every match of
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: that show, multiple. I mean, it's insane how many toys
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  Speaker 4: there are representing people on that show.
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  Speaker 3: And we're the toy guys. We're in the elite squad.
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  Speaker 3: We have the possibilities.
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  Speaker 4: Like we couldn't be more in and more proven ourself
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  Speaker 4: you know i mean like that they wouldn't have been
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: pet warmers they wouldn't you know so i think that's
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  Speaker 4: what that hurts but i'll ask you this broski and
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: this just popped in my head while you were speaking
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  Speaker 4: would you trade the edge head for mania uh 35 elites.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I would. Oof.
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  Speaker 5: The only reason I will say no is because we're
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  Speaker 5: doing the Mania moment as a big fuck you to
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  Speaker 5: Mattel and that's good enough for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because we are doing those figures, the ringset figures.
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  Speaker 3: That were supposed to come out in 2021. Yeah.
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: I think the Super 7s are kind of like a
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: few too and I think the Edgeheads are so unique
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: because they're technically like flashback legend figures.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: If we had one choice, knowing what I know now,
• 10:53
  Speaker 5: that we killed him with Super 7, we're making our
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: own toy line, we have the zombie figures, we have
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  Speaker 5: the major moment figures.
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  Speaker 3: More Super 7s on the horizon.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 5: Listen, it wasn't corporate Steve or Robert's call, so when
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  Speaker 5: I say, fuck you, Mattel, it's not at them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, actually, just so everyone knows, none of the people....
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: Slightly makina but none of the people that were we
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: know and we named up all the time it's just
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: like wwe corporate people too that kind of well it
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: was a little bit really are the culprits that like
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: shoot us out of lineups and stuff.
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: Wwe cpg whatever that lady's name is she's that that.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: Bitch is fired too though so she hated me she
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: hated us she hated us yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And i know bill i know bill didn't want to.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: Put us in i know bill was hesitant no i
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: know i know bill took us out bill took us
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: out of the lineup Yeah, because he's... No, no, because Bill...
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  Speaker 3: This is what I heard through the grapevine. That Bill, once.
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: Because we were supposed to be in that WrestleMania elite
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  Speaker 5: that went to Walmart.
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  Speaker 3: And I understand. Don't put Hawkins and Ryder in that.
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  Speaker 3: There's only four people in there. I get that. You
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But then it was like, well, we can't put them
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: in the elites in their Mania gear if it's not
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  Speaker 5: a Mania set. Which makes no fucking sense because it was...
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  Speaker 5: They made everybody else. You know what I'm saying? So yes,
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: I'm still bitter about it. I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care. It wasn't meant to be. It would
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  Speaker 3: have been nice for sure.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: Everything's great.
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: Actually, we're talking about merch. That trading card is one
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: of my favorite things there is.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. That's like the coolest. There's a trading card
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: of us winning the titles. Very difficult to grade, which sucks.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Why is that?
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever that year, that WrestleMania set, Papa Bear's tried and
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: tried and I.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: Don't think a 10 exists. Because there's a chrome, right?
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: Chromes are hard?
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  Speaker 4: No, this is like a cheap WrestleMania set. I can't
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: even explain it.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: I thought that there's multiple cards from that match.
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  Speaker 3: No. No, no.
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: There's like different variants, right?
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: There's variants.
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: And then I guess we each have relics, but we're separate.
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  Speaker 4: But this is the only one with like our hands raised.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So I have one where I'm doing like the super
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: rough rider.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And I have one where I'm just like getting
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: ready to tie up. In the green. Got it.
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  Speaker 5: Which, you know, so it's great that it got, you know,
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  Speaker 5: represented in some way. And like we said, we have
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  Speaker 5: the major moments coming out, and it is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: Another funny thing is that when we, at first when
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: we were doing these Super 7s, we didn't, like when
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: Super 7 came to us, we didn't know, we didn't
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: have gear designed. Because it was like, literally, like we
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: got released days later, Brian Flint calls me.
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  Speaker 3: So we didn't have like the gear. I feel like
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: it was the next day. It might have been.
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  Speaker 5: So one of the things I was thinking about doing,
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: and I got the gear designed and I haven't worn
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: it yet, is that WrestleMania gear, you know, the Christian
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: style gear, but all the MCs replacing ZRs. And I
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: have that gear.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: Made and you never wore it? Made.
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I thought maybe that would be my super step.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: And I said, ultimate fuck you. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: But I'm like, nah.
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  Speaker 5: I'd rather it be like my new look because this
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: is like a one-time thing.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: So I'm waiting.
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  Speaker 5: I'm using this. I'm saving this for a special night.
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  Speaker 5: Probably won't get a figure out of it, but it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, my Jet stuff I can never wear again.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: It was literally for MetLife and Jet's theme. I can't
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: even recreate it for any purpose.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Unless you guys reunite for one night.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Unless it's like St. Patrick's Day. If we have a
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: big tag match, we'll wear the Super 7 gear for sure.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: I'm wearing the Super 7 gear at Hard to Kill
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: when I go for the Impact World title.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: I'm very excited. Breaking news. That's cool. That's great.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: All right, we're all over the place here. Gabe Bonificio. Brian,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure in retrospect there wouldn't be a thing you'd
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: change about the finish to your WrestleMania 35 match, but
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: what sort of ideas did you have in mind for
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: how you'd end your losing streak? You getting the pin
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: in this particular match was perfect storytelling for your character.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: I swear to God this is true. I would never.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: think about it i wouldn't even daydream about it i
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: would i just because i knew i'd drive myself crazy
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: doing that because it it's so out of my hands
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: you know what i mean a fake wrestling show.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Then you get then you disappoint yourself.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah it's just written by vincent man and writer so
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: like what like me daydreaming and scheming this thing it
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: was just kind of pointless and.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: You know that it would be the biggest mess up
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: in the world if they oh.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: It'd be like school bullying baron corbin and it would
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: have been forgotten about you know what i mean so
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: like In actuality, the way it ended is beyond my
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: wildest dreams. I could have never, from when this started,
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: or even if you count from 100, you know, the
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: 0 and 100 when the streak kind of became a thing.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: If you told me this is going to end in
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: two years, and you and Broski are going to reunite
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: and become tag team champions at WrestleMania in your hometown.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: When you just said that, I'd be like, no, that
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: didn't happen.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Right? That's what I'm saying. You can't even make that up. So.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: it's like one of those times in life where reality
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: was better than my dreams even.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: It's surreal. It's still surreal.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: We did mention that you kind of pitched to win
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the Battle Royal as your win.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: That was the only time ever, ever that I pitched
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: anything to win was that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: But that was also, when I said in the last episode,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: a very half-hearted, half-assed pitch because.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Really I just wanted to get in there and talk
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: to Vince about my gear.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: You know while I had his ear and and I
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: don't know if I said this in the last episode
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: but I just recalled this somebody smartened us up to
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: not the SNL thing but that there's already a plan
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: for the Andre and it's like set in stone so
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: like your pitch is pointless is kind of what we
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: were told before we went in there so we really
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: the wind was out of our sails anyway.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Right they could they could have at least teased it
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: too and then had Oh, for sure.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: We talked last time about that battle royal that he did,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: and I got to pretty late later on, and I
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: think Elias or Corbin or somebody knocks me out. That
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: was one of the first times the crowd was like,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: it was cool.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: They were turning me.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Greg the Powley, what was the communication with the WWE
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: like when COVID was in its early stages? So I guess.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Here's your dirt sheet stuff for this episode. All right,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: so I remember.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: We did some shitty ass live event where one of
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: the Vikings was out. So you wrestle the bald Viking
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: and I'm in street clothes.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: It was deep. You know, I never forgot this. It
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: was deep. It was where the Briscoe brothers live in
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: like deep, deep. Is that Delaware? I'm not sure. They're
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: from Delaware.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: It was like some random town in Delaware.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: I remember the doc, the W doc saying like, they're
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: going to cancel WrestleMania. This whole world's going to shut down.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: No way. I have so many memories of this.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: We, uh, we show up and we're supposed to work
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: the Vikings and Ivar's not there. And someone's like, oh,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: he got sent home for coronavirus-like symptoms. And we go, well,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: what was that? And they said, oh, he was really
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: tired and coughing after his match. And then somebody goes, oh,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: so he's had these symptoms his whole career? To be
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: name nameless, but they might be listening to this, so
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: I hope they pop the person that said that popped me.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: So then, impromptu, I think I had to work like.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Ray, what's his gimmick name? Eric. In like a singles
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: in the popcorn match or whatever.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I remember I came out with like- Right before we
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: went out, that's when the doc said, man, this could
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: affect like Major stuff.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Like, I think Mania could get canceled. And we're like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: what are you talking about?
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Like, the coronavirus was like a myth at this point.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: You know, it was like the tooth fairy. You didn't
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: think it was real. You know what I mean?
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: It's either that Monday or the next Monday. We're at
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Barclays Center. And we have like a meeting about coronavirus.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I think it's the next day because I drove home. Okay.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Triple H is like, oh, it's just like the flu. Bro.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Triple H played us a video.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Of Cuomo saying that it's not real and not to
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: be worried about it and to move on with your life, basically.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: We had a talent meeting where they played this thing
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: for us. And then there's one more Raw and then
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: that's it. Yeah, that's it. I lose to Bobby Lashley
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: in like 10 seconds. No, we do the pay-per-view against
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: the Vikings. Okay, I get concussed. I remember that. Probably.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Ibar squishes my head with the crossbody. I remember liking
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: that match. No, no, it was fine. And I also
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: remember the crowd was.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: kind of like into us and into that like it
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: was cool that was philly right philly philly and then
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: we drive to dc i managed you get absolutely smashed
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: by bobby lashley drive.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Home never to be seen again i wonder if i
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: still have the text from like irs where he's like
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: tell me that what the match is i'm like oh
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a real barber yeah yeah all right
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: so then the world ends yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: That's the week the world there we had a creative
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: pro show that sunday that i decided was like that
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: we did i said this seems a little irresponsible i
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: said how about no fans and we'll just tape it
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: and put it on youtube and then i never my
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: travel is canceled and or whatever and the world ended.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: So, okay.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: So then they start doing the, the performance center shows
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: and Brian can't, first of all, it's not like we
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: were on raw often to begin with, but we'd always
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: get flown in. You know, like I said, we, I
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: said that Lashley, you know, we'd have main event matches, blah, blah, blah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: But Brian, the, the way it worked is that New
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: York could not fly into Florida.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: It was illegal.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Like I had to like, my wife and I were
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: like looking it up like crazy and trying to figure
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Like you're not, You were not supposed to do that
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: at the time.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to find this email. I'm going to
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: read you the exact email that I sent to Paul Heyman,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: who was in charge of like everything at the time.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? At the time he's the head,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: a head of creative for Roy. Yeah. Big Hawkinson Ryder fan.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. I said, this is on April 12th. Okay. On Monday.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: First of all, at this time, keep in mind.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: We've already been home three weeks.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been... Also... I think that cap show was
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: March 5th or 12th.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: No, like 19th or something. Was it? Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Dude, I remember Mark drove me home from that cap show,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: and we stopped at the Target by my house, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: it was like the world was ending, and I was buying.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Cans of soda and bread, because I was like, this
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: is crazy. I don't know what the hell's happening. There's
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: anything in sight.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: So at this time, like I said, the year prior,
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: before Mania... The majority of the roster gets offered these
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: new deals. I did not take it. Did not know
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: if I wanted to stay or go. I was on
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: the fence, blah, blah, blah. Of course, obviously, WWE made
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the decision for me. But every week, I was living
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: with anxiety because I'd be fucking negotiating with Carano about
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: this fucking deal. And leading up to this, he's not
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: responding to my texts. So I'm like, something's up. You know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: it's like something is just up.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Okay? So then it's Monday, April 12th. Hey, Paul.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, April 12th. Hey, Paul.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: For now, Hawkins won't be able to come to TVs.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: I live in Orlando, and I'm able to work singles
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: if you need me until he comes back. I just
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: want to wrestle.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Zach. April 13th. Like, I don't know, a couple
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: minutes later, an hour later. Thank you, sir.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: With your permission, I'm sharing your note with the chairman
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I said, please do. Thanks, Paul. I got fired two
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: days later. Awesome. Like, your contract would have been up
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: in August, right? So before the 90 days.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: So that was my concern. When all you guys are
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: getting fired, I'm like, oh my God. Because like, it's like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I think maybe you or Heath first and the Good Brothers,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: but not, like Good Brothers went together, but we didn't.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh my God, are they going to
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: let me just fucking rot till August? That's what I
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: thought was going to happen.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I'm blown away with considering the way things were with
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: the no talent.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: With travel restrictions that they wouldn't just have you come
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: and kill you every week.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Okay. I want to hear something else. I'm blown away
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: by that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: You live in the town. You want to hear about
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: something else that almost happened? I don't think I've ever
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: said before. So Miz, right before Mania, gets COVID-like symptoms.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I don't think it was COVID.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: And we- Oh, that's when they switched that ladder match
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: to a single weird tag representatives from.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: The tag teams? Morrison had pitched.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Morrison and Ziggler- They went to bat for me to
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: pitch that I would replace Miz and be Morrison's partner,
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: which obviously doesn't happen.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: And that just goes to show you how much Paul
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Heyman did not want to use you.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: And that would have been like a SmackDown thing.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: That would have been a Bruce thing, I think. Or Eric.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know who was in charge at that time.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was Paul. But I just love that on Monday,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: they know we're getting fired Wednesday.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: So, like, the writing was on the wall. And listen,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I have no... Listen, I'm glad they fired me. I
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: am not one of those people. Me and Brian were
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: in different boats. It was instant relief for me because
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: I'd been living with that anxiety every week. Brian saw
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: me negotiate with fucking Carano all the fucking time. One time,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: we snuck into Hogan's Dress Room to record the podcast
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: or whatever that, and.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Then he came in. I mean, that's on the podcast.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: We say we're there.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: And then he came in to negotiate, and like, Obviously,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: I turned the recorder off. I wish I didn't because
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: he gave me a number, and then next week when
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I accepted, he said he.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Didn't say it. Man.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: But I'm not a scumbag, so I didn't fucking.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I pressed stop on the recorder. Illegal anyway, but... Yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying. Yeah, I just.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: This firing shocked me. Shocked me to my core because
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I had just signed a five-year contract the year prior.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I had been a producer.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: And I just thought, and then to this day, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I'll still say I'm still pretty, like, I would, I'll
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: use the word disappointed. Like, we're in this pandemic, not
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: even a month into it. I don't even know what
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: the word pandemic is until this happened, right? There's so
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: much uncertainty about the world and stuff, and everybody's just like,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: see you guys, see ya, peace out. Like, just very,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: you know, disappointed in that. Like, you know, we're a family.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Come on, get out of here.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: You don't fire 40 people with, like, the uncertainty of
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: the world. there when you're making more money than you're
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: as a company than you've ever made.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: It was just a very shitty thing to do.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: And I'm also, I've always thought, how do they not
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: ask like all these people just take pay cuts and get,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: come back to reality.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: They gave us all this at like astronomical, not real
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: life prices. I feel like a lot of this could
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: have been avoided if they just talked to me.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Okay. I'm going to ask
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: you a hypothetical question. You asked me about the figures.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: If you could take back that day, would you rather
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: still be in WWE or be fired and do what
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: we've done since?
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, absolutely. No, fired. Exactly.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Fire me again.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: No, but I know at the time. I'm talking about
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: in that moment.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I know. Of course. Of course. Yes.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Hey, everything happens for a reason. This shit all played
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: out in an unbelievable way. And I don't even think
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: if I was like a top guy in WWE and
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: never got fired right now, I'd enjoy it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Like what?
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Has gone on there, you know, working through the pandemic
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: looked like unreal zero fun.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: And, you know, yeah, I, and to add on, I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: think I mentioned it at some point, but there was
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a point that I was getting a job. I was
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: really far in the job process and didn't get it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: They were trying to steal you from us.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I would have been, I would have been a road
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: producer for the WWE. And I thought that that was
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: my dream job. And I was ready to retire from wrestling.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. You would have been whacked too, right?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: There is no podcast.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: No, they would have probably kept him because they got
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: rid of the people, like all the people.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: You were making the least money probably. Yes, they would
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: have kept you.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: They got rid of that entire department. Giancarlo, the new guy,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: all those people.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's right about that.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: The entire department. But anyway, I'd be gone and I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: didn't retire.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: This is insane. It's insane.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: And you were one of the top sellers on fucking
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Black Friday, baby.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Come on. Yeah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Uh, Greg, the Polly, uh, let's stick it to this
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: time period. Cause I know it's been, it's different. When
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: are you not, when you are not on TV, what
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: is a day like on a TV night as a wrestler?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's like not, not in this time period.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: No, let's keep it to this.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Like we go, we go, we, we would, this is
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: what we would do. We would go fuck it. If
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: we were doing the phone call promotions, we do a lot.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: We go into a fucking, a skybox or, and do
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: all those fucking calls. Or we'd fucking sneak out early
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: and do the podcast or find a room and do
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: the podcast. If we weren't booked.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Around this time, in my mind, if we weren't booked,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: or we'd do main event, which is like being in
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: that book because you're on first and you can get
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: out of there before Raw starts. And then we would
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: just go find a great restaurant with Eric Young, have
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: a really nice meal, and then go back to the
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: hotel and bang out the podcast.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: It was kind of great.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: That sounds good.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: But they built.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: they built with these big contracts, they built that like
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: WCW environment where there's no incentive to like work your
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: ass off. And then it's sad saying that, but it's true.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: You know, like that's the way WCW was. You make
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: this much and that's how much you make. And there's
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: no way to make more. My first three years on
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: the regular contract I signed when I came back every year,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I worked my ass off and I made a little
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: And you get that like one. And the way I
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: did it, I always got my same check every week
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: so I could just live my life with no surprises
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: or whatever. And then at the end of my contract year,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: I got this direct deposit in my bank account for
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: a substantial amount of money that was like, Hey, look
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: what you did, man. You worked your ass off. You deserve, like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: that's what you do. You know, like that, that, that's
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: what kept you like in the hunt and hungry and shit.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Now more money. Even if I was a top guy
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: working every pay-per-view, I couldn't make more money than I
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: was making, you know, as jobber run raw guy.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: It made no sense.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I, I had not, uh, like I said, siding
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: that deal, but still to the fact that, like, even
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: if I was so, like, instead of getting miserable that
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: we weren't on TV, I'd be like, okay, well, Monday's
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: my day to do the podcast. You know, and that was, like,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: our creative outlet. If I didn't have the podcast, I
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: think I would have been fucking crazy.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, if that's all, I mean, because you wear your
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: heart on your sleeve in WWE and stuff, and yeah, like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: trust me, when you get there, you've flown all this way,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: you've left your family, you've paid for a car and
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: a hotel, you know, all this stuff, and then you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: not booked, it's kind of like, well, what the, you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I love that I'm They did this to me to
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: not participate in something that i love you know it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: kind of shitty but having the podcast changed everything because
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: like broski said it was like such a creative outlet
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: and like an escape and it didn't even matter how
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: shitty the day was at like regular work you know
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: you could just kind of get away from it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: All wow that's interesting um We kind of talked about it,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: but this is specific. When releases were happening, what is
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: your usual reaction towards the news? Do you reach out
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: or do you leave the individual alone?
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Depends who it is, really. It depends on how close
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I am with them, yeah. I still remember. This one
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I got a lot of nice texts from people, phone calls,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: like people that I care about, their opinion or, you know. Yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: same here.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: My favorite part of this one is, like, we have
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: a group chat with Giles and Anderson. And, like, I
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: think I was the first one to be like, whoa,
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: got it. And then Broski, you know, a couple, whatever,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: an hour.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Later, got it. I think I was the last one.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: That's what was scaring me.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Really? But I know they were like, oh, well, of
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: course Hawkins and Roderick got fired. They're jobbers.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: They got fired too. They said they were like side
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: texting that. We're such good friends that they'll just admit
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: something like that to us. It just kind of popped me.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I texted something like that to Rusev like, oh, I
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: doubt I still have it in my phone. But I'm like,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I think we're going or I think I'm going. And
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: then like he got released. I just sent him like
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: the eye emoji. He didn't respond to me.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, dude, that had to have shocked so many
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: people and rocked so many people's worlds because of Dude,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: we all just signed these deals.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: What is a pandemic? What's happening? It was a pretty
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: ruthless day. Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: We also woke up to some weird email. We have this,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: when you work for WWE, there's a WWE app. They
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: made us all watch this video on their event.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Saying it's a dark day at the WWE.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: He's looking at the camera, but not looking at the
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: camera is really odd.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: It's really strange.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: What do you mean a dark day?
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: They were going to let people go. Oh. And then,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: to my understanding of that, was like corporate people. I
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: knew right away. I'm like, here we go. And the
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: first one that actually reached out was Pat Buck. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: just got fired. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget. He's the first one I heard from
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: that guy let go. And it was early. It was
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: like 10.30 or 11 or something like that, I want
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: to say. That day, I'll never forget it. I had
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: a fucking.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: jimmy's famous seafood fucking crab cake in there to fucking
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: ruin when first of.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: All only wwe corporate can ruin jimmy's seafood man that's bullshit.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: I didn't even get the call i got a text
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: saying please call me and i'm thinking okay well what's
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: it gonna be and by this point everyone was fucking
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: going yeah and i i've told this story before the
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: only like wrestling thing i have in my house besides
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: like my toy room in my office like it seems
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: like a normal house i have a a Rob Schamburger
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: painting of me and my dad at WrestleMania. So like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: I just stood in front of that and like smiled
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: and fucking got fired. I'm like, it's going to be fine.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: And then I already had my pros and T set up. Like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: let's make that son bitch live now. Let's fucking go.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: You, this is an interesting story. We've talked about it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: When do you, when do you call Ryan to get
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: this store going?
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Not before.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I didn't think I was getting fired, so obviously I
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: didn't hit him up before.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Mine was up, and I had designs before I got fired.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about Pro Wrestling Tees, Ryan, by the way.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: When you say designs, I thought you were working on
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that logo that day.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: What do you mean?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: That MC logo. You had already made that.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: The first logo say, like, not there, because I was doing, like,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: the still here, still here, so it's, like, not there.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Got it. What was your best-selling, like, thing? What was your,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the first?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: The knot there was the one I had. It was, like,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: it was great. It was insane.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: For me, at least.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Right. What a random shirt for somebody to be wearing
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: right now, though.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah. Very timely.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it was, that shirt was more
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: of a, like, all right, we support this guy more than, like,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: it was a cool shirt.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: That's why, right away, I remember talking to Heath. I said, hey,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: stop sitting around feeling sorry for yourself. Get that I
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: got fired instead of I got kids shirt made.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Immediately and he didn't do it of course because he's
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Heath and he probably.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Just forgot and then I made Johnny Clash do it
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: like I can't take this like be proactive it was
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: driving me nuts and he's like hi man I share
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: soul really well man I'm like oh no shit Heath.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Alright Dennis Fletcher says I just wanted to give a
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: shout out for Brian's tweet after he was released out
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: of this disaster the pro wrestling community will rise stronger
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: than ever Obviously, you have to be upset after losing
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: your dream job. What was your first plan of action
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: or thoughts on what was next? You made that tweet.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Dude, like the next like 48 hours are such like a,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: like I couldn't sleep. I was so like, I guess
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: I just had this trajectory of like where my life
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: was headed. And this was such a curveball that just
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: like sweep me off my feet. I remember that first
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: 48 hours to a.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Week, I didn't sleep very well. I was just rocked.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Being Brian Myers, the wrestling star, was so far from
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: my mind. I wasn't even daydreaming about it. Like Brodsky said,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: he was in a different boat because his contract was
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: up and he was trying to make a big decision anyway,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: so obviously some of those thoughts are creeping in. I mean,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I was locked tight. None of those thoughts were creeping in.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: So he just threw me wildly for a loop.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: And then I guess.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: which is really crazy, and then the rules have changed.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: The first time I got fired, I literally wrestled the
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: next day, and the day after that, and I've told
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: this story a million times, but I got fired on Thursday,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I wrestled Friday, Saturday, I had this fun-ass tag match
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: with Val Venus and shit, and it was a real
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: kick-ass introduction to indie wrestling, and I remember my parents
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: had a barbecue on Sundays, and I was just sitting
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: there with this wad of cash in my pocket, thinking, okay,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: this is going to be sick. This time, There's a
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: pandemic going on. I can't even go to fucking Target,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: much less go to a wrestling show. You know, I
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: can't get that out of my system. And I also
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: don't know when are the indies going to be a
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: thing ever again at this point, you know? It was
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: kind of scary.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: So it's like a lot of feeling sorry for yourself almost,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: but like trying to find that silver lining, but it
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: was tough to see.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Like Brian said, there was no indies to go do.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: And even if there were, we had 90 days.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. That's what I meant to say too.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Also, the rules have changed where the 90 days- The
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: old school 90 days, you just couldn't do like television
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: and things like that. Now it's like a flat out
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: real 90 where you can't do anything.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: I had already called Cody before I got fired, talking
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: to him about stuff. And also, without you guys listening,
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: without this podcast... We would have had no, like, of course, yeah,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: we still had our 90-day pay, but you guys kept us, like, alive, really, because, like,
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: that pay, we didn't know when we were going to
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: get paid after those 90 days, in theory, you know?
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Dude, I will.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Be forever grateful to the, like, flea market-esque sales of
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: things that I made in that, like, first month of
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: being fired because it was things that were no value
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: to me anymore because it's not part of my life,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: but obviously to some wrestling fan it is, and, like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: our fans and the people in the patron, like unreal
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: supported us basically, you know, I'll forever be grateful for that.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: One, I kept not only supporting by listening to the pod,
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: but the patron and, uh, you know, um, buying the, the,
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: the merch and the, and the gear, like we had
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: to refund, I think it was like over 20 grand
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: in tickets for that live show.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: We're like, cool. Good thing we didn't spend it. That's
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: also true.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Thank God we didn't spend it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Like, well, that's one good thing about our business though.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: We're not, we're never borrowing to, uh, Right. You know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to put on an event.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: And that's another thing. We put out this. We filmed
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: the live show. We did it from home. And then
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: we already, like, filmed it. But then we get fired.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Then we have to release it. We had to throw in, like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: a little disclaimer, like, oh, they got fired.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: And then Tommy Dreamer makes that joke about it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, shit.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Woof.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: But I remember Dreamer called me almost immediately to come
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: to Impact. But I've said it a million times. I
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: knew that's where everyone was going. And I didn't want
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: to just go with everybody else. For me, in retrospect,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: it would have been better than going to AEW maybe.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: But also maybe not. Maybe it was better that I
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: went to AEW. It didn't work out there. So then
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: I kind of did my own thing. Because if I
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: would have stayed in AEW.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I probably would be on fucking dark and elevation just.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Doing random shit.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: And nothing against those guys and those shows, but I've
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: already been just a guy.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be just another guy. So instead,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: whether it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Be Impact or the indies that I had fun with,
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: the GCW thing fell into my lap, which really kind
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: of changed the whole course of not only this year,
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: but my career. So that wouldn't have happened if I
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: would have signed with Impact right away or AEW. So,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't really believe in fate, but I believe.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I say always ready all the time.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: You have to be ready for any situation that comes
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: your way and capitalize and fucking pivot and just fucking
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: evolve or else you're going to fucking just fuck be lost,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: especially in a fucking pandemic.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: All right. This is a great question. Brian Del Pozo.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: How did you guys feel about the design of your t-shirt?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Was it something you had any involvement in slash knew
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: was coming for a while or did the final product
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and design catch you by surprise before it went on sale?
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: We actually had a lot of involvement in that because
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: the merch guys and us, we've built up such a
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: rapport with them over the years, and they know we're
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: passionate and helpful. There were some rotten ones that we
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: turned down, and I think we picked the best possible one.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: I wasn't in love with it, but I think it
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: was the best one.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: We actually had a design made by TTD that's still here.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: But like the R was my ZR and the H
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: in the here was Brian's H.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: But they couldn't. Oh, wait.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Do I have that one?
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: It's black with white. We made like 12. There's only
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: like 12 in the world or something like that. I
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: know like BSK has one.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I have one.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: We wore it on a tour like the week before
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: our shirt really came out. I love that shirt and
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I still love that shirt. WWE's bullshit excuse was that
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: still here is owned by some other clothing company.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: That doesn't make sense because I have a trademark now. Yeah,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: so it was a bullshit excuse, yeah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, so, and then that shirt, that was something that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they designed.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was probably like six or eight designs to
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: choose from, and we kind of like mushed together two
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: of them, I want to say, if I recall correctly.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: There were some really rotten ones, of course. That's very
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: typical WWE, though.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: J.D. Dominick, who came up with the finish for the
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: tag title match at WrestleMania? I loved it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Daivari, actually. No, I don't think so.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Daivari, it was one of the first things he said
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: to me when he told us about the match and everything.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I thought it was actually Dawson, and it's a fucking,
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: it's a Bret Hart-Diesel from Survivor Series finish.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: It's Bret Hart-Diesel, 100%, but I think, Unless Dawson saw
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Daivari before Daivari saw us, and Daivari was one of
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: the first people who even knew the match was happening
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: and what was going on, and.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: He was the producer, he said it right away to me.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Either way, that was the best way. Great call, yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Because what is the losing streak guy's finisher? He doesn't
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: have one. So there has to be some kind of
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: roll-up or something. And wasn't that an issue when you
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: were getting your figure made? Oh, that was a funny
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: phone call. That was like... Man, it might have been
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Nicole Zioli.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: She was all awkward to call me about something, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: it was because Mattel was doing the packaging, and they
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: didn't know what to put for finishing maneuver on the back.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: They didn't want to be disrespectful or something, which is
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: kind of funny. And I can't remember what they ended
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: up going with. It's something funny, I want to say.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know. That's going to drive me nuts. I'm
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: going to Google that right now. Okay. Okay.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Alex Mahoney, memories of the three-way you guys had with
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the Usos and Revival. When did you learn you were
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: losing the titles?
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Probably that day. At that point, like... When the.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Writing was on the wall that there was no interest
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: in us. I loved the Usos to death, and I
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: was just trying to have a good match.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Like I said, I think on the last one, I
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: wish we would have lost them the next day.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with that, because I feel like
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: you can always overcome or whatever.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Right, but in retrospect of what would have happened.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: That's why when people always give me shit like, you
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: had the IC title for one day.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I'd rather that than what? Right, they remember. Our reign
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: was fucking meaningless. I don't think we had, besides the
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: next night on Raw, I don't think we had one
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: successful television defense.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I don't know if Rusky will
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: add on to this, but the other thing that I
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: really remember about that day is Abyss was the producer
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: and he was like, unreal annoying following us around all day,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: like freaking out because it's a three-way.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of moving parts. And to be fair
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: in his favor, it is hard as a producer to
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: be like, what's next? There's so much going on. There's
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: really no rules. There's a lot of camera cuts and work.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: He needs to be on top of it. But man,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: he was like our shadow. He'd just pop up and
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: be like, okay, one more time. Give me some slack here.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: My finisher in the back of my Elite set is
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: N slash A.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I love that. And finisher not available. I love it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: That's so great.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: From Queens, New York. Weight 223. Height 6 foot 1 inches.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Finisher not available.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I love it. It kind of rules. All right.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Here's a clickbaity one, kind of, but I think it's
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a good question, especially for this time. Joe Hersky. How
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: did the majority of the locker room feel about the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Saudi shows? Not looking for specifics, but just overall morale.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get into that, but not talking
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: about it. I don't think There's a member of the
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: WWE roster that goes, all right, we're going to Saudi. Woo-hoo!
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: There's no person that does that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: And that was prior to the incident, we'll call it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Marcus Avedia, when you guys teamed back up, who were
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: the guys you wanted to work with the most? So
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: let me add on to that, me, Mark Sterling. When
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you guys... start being a team and they're like giving
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you music and stuff like that.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Like they didn't give us good music.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: The end of the streak isn't like a plan thing.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, Hey, we're going to team you guys
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: up so that this will be the end.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Right. Right. There was no plans. Cause Vince came up
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: with this, like literally days before maybe, you know, like
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: there was never plans.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: So when, when you get put together, are you like, man,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: hope maybe we can have some bangers. Like what, what
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: In my mind, an ideal situation for me is to,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: because we were never given a chance as babies just
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: to turn heel, because I think that would have been great,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: you know, the gratitude stuff, and work with the Usos
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: as babies.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Or even the Street Profits. That would have been a
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: dream for me. What's that?
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Or Street Profits. We had some, like, decent ones.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Sure, but the Usos are, like, I think, you know,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the best tech team in the world. 100%. The Street
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Profits were just getting called up from NXT. Street Profits
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: had just been called up, and we're super green. You know,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: it wasn't, like, a team to, like, have a banger with.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we were working heel against them on live events
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: and overseas tour. I think we did a tribute to
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: the troops that no one ever saw. um i really
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: thought they were going to give us a shot with
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: the gratitude era and the heels just you know you got.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Fired james zimbicki this is a good one can you
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: tell us some interesting stories of the boys reacting to
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: you to recording the pod at the arena when you
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: started the pod at wb we.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Never did it like in front of the boys we
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: were like so secretive yeah we'd go find like first
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: off these are arenas that we've been going to for
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: fucking who knows how long you know i mean we
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: got we know the ins and outs like there's some
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: of them like I remember in Philly, I found this
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: amazing room in the back.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: You would never find us. You'd have to be like
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: a lunatic walking around back there to find us. Got it.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: And that's where we, I remember we pulled Natty in
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: and got that awesome Natty interview because it was just
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: too easy.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: And like I said, one time we did it in
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Hogan's dressing room before he got there.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Very crafty.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: El Vlogstar, how do you feel currently looking back at how, ah,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: this is about the build. We talked about those figures.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Anthony Diaz, What was the status of Creator Pro? Who
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: was in charge? Who was running it while you were
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: in the WWE?
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: I still always coached one night a week. Even on
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: a full WWE schedule, I would do Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: home Tuesday. I would coach, I think it's been Thursday
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: night for quite some time now. Thursday night's been my
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: night at Creator Pro.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Anthony Diaz also asks, did Broski meet Chelsea Green during
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: this time?
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: No, way before. I met her when I was out
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: after the high pros knee injury.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: So there was during this reunion, you were reading.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: No, it was during like early, early 2017 or. Early,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: early 2017.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: I moved to Orlando 2016, blew out my knee.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Early, early 2017.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: We get, we get engaged. This weekend. This weekend. Yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: We're already like together for two years at this point. Yeah. Right.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Um, brand, uh, Brandon asks, uh, if, Brian didn't break
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: his losing streak with Matt at WrestleMania. How else would
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you have liked to break it?
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: With the Royal Rumble. I've never thought about it. Never
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: thought about it once.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: And like I said, the reality was better than my
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: wildest dreams. So how do you answer that?
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: True. Win the Royal Rumble would be.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Win the elimination chamber. Squashing Lesnar. Squashing Lesnar. Streaks over.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Corbin Joslyn... Uh, can Brian discuss, uh, getting cap students
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: extra roles in WWE television during this time? How did
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: it begin? Any incidents with extra spots going wrong? Bonus
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: question for Mark. Favorite extra role.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Oh man.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, honestly, it's just be, I just became trustworthy,
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: you know, like if the WWE guys in TR or whatever,
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: know that, you know, I, I can put my stamp
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: of approval on somebody.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: It's not going to be a goof. Cause like, Trust me,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: there's been millions of incidents.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Millions of incidents of clowns being booked for this stuff.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: Our debut on SmackDown is against two fucking goofs.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been more goofs than not.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: So if they're just going to trust me that I
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: work there, that my students aren't going to do something stupid,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: then it's like the more the merrier.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: They can't get enough. They'd much rather that.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that when you book an extra talent,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: they're lying on the paper you get a picture that's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: seven years.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Old yeah it could be all kinds of crazy.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Stuff there was one guy in Boston there's a.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Dude that chased Triple H into the bathroom and took
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: a fake piss next to him in the urinal and
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: asked for like a job that's like banned for life
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: like shit like that right right happens all the.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Time yeah guy in Boston was like 40 something years
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: old hadn't wrestled in 11 years and was like yeah
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: they just called me.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: My favorite is a homeboy who told Cone that he
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: tweaked his knee and then he showed up on crutches
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: You're an extra. What do you think you're going to
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: contribute to this television? show on crutches? And that's not
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: tweaking your knee. He was a creative pro guy though, right?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: No.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Hell no. Don't ever say that.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: No. No incidents with extra spots from Cap went wrong ever.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: No. My favorite, Cap.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Extra thing of all time is Stan getting punched dead
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: in the face by Becky Lynch.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Becky, yes.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Which is also a wild thing if you look back
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: on it. For like, to be asked as an extra
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: to just get shoot punched in the face.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: He took it though. There was nothing else to that.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Right. I didn't even know it was a shoot punch.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: What?
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, bro. Come on, look.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Bro, look at it.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: It's like right at the cheek. His face jiggles. He
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: mangles his face.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Um, And then there's also MJF's Samoa Joe spot.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: I wasn't there for that, though, because I'm fired at
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: that time.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: That's 2015.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That was pretty good. I was a doctor
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Well, that's it for the questions that we got this time.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: How do we want to finalize this?
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want people to... I mean, a
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: lot of this got kind of bitter, and I don't
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: want people to think... No, no, no. This was an
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: incredible whirlwind time in my career. I think just how
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: it all ended just kind of shocked the fucking my
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: balls off of me you know kind of thing that's
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: all and like i said everything i was a reason
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: i've never been happier in my career for sure or
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: i've been having more fun and it all worked out
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: uh but just pretty pretty nuts i feel like this
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: would be some good stuff for you know writing a
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: book one day it's.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: It was a whirlwind of events you know like something
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: like oh they might be back together to all of
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: a sudden no you're back together tonight to doing nothing
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: to no you're going for the.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: It was like a whole now you're gonna get the
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: worst theme music in the history of wrestling.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: So it was definitely a cool time you know and
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: we did some cool things listen we won the fucking
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: tag team titles at wrestlemania you call a kickoff show
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: call it was fucking wrestlemania to me baby i went
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: to japan the.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: I can literally close my eyes and hear the like
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: the people like yes is that like spine tingling like
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: i don't give a kickoff show or not that was
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Wrestle fucking mania.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: And it was just a great, great time. Did it
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: end prematurely? I mean, I want to say no based
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: on what has happened. I think, you know, I'm so glad.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: I'm glad we got fucking fired.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: I really haven't. A weird thing also.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: To say and plug, which I don't think we did
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: last time, and if I'm wrong, just stop me.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: We were supposed to be on the 24 and got cut.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: But it's free on YouTube, and it's a very nice,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: awesome little watch. It's all there, and it's.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Hands down my favorite thing WWE's ever made for me
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: about my career or whatever. It's pretty unreal. It has
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: clips from live podcasts. It has clips from us on
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: the indies. Just unbelievable thing telling our story. And I
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: was almost grateful it got cut from the real 24,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: because then you have to have Peacock and Cypher through Becky's.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: in Kofi's version of Mania, which was pretty substantial, you know,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: but to get our little slice and it's, you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: it lives on its own in WWE's YouTube, I really
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: suggest going out of your way to find that and
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: watch that.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: It's pretty awesome. I agree.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: I also think it's really cool that we got released
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: and without even telling each other, we knew we were
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: done as a team.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: You know, like we both have. Oh, dude. We both have....
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: And always have had our own hopes and dreams about
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: this business. It wasn't even a conversation. There's a little
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: part of that that's, hey, together, which is great. I'll
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: always be grateful for that and appreciate it, especially when
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: you look back on shit we did when we were 18, 20,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: literally fucking children in a men's world trying to survive.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: And I don't think if we had each other, it
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: would have worked out that way.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was funny because I was talking to Raven
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: was at NWA this weekend. He was asking like, well,
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: how long have you guys known each other? You seem
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: pretty close. And I had to like tell him the story.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: He was like blown away. You know, like it is
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: like when you tell the story, it's pretty fucking crazy.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: Like two kids, both love wrestling, living in the same area,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: not knowing each other, going to the same wrestling school.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: But, you know. I mean, I've been wrestling 18 years
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't have any.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Anybody comparable that i've ever met that has the same
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: you know unless you're like shoot brothers or twins or
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: some shit i mean other than that i don't know
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: anyone you know so we've been through a lot of
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: a lot even like like tj and harry started when
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: they were kids together but they've been apart for like
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: basically so long now you know.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah so i mean it was even that run as
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: weird as it was and how weirdly it ended uh
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: it was great and.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: I love it i love it titles.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Even when it was like on its deathbed, like we said,
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: we were like, we were still having like pretty fun
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: matches on main event and then leaving and doing the
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: podcast and like having a steak and making money. I mean,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I just like nothing to complain about, you know?
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. All right.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Well, entertaining couple of weeks. We have not, I mean,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: a couple of podcasts. We have not talked about what
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: the next bonus episode will be for next month. It'll
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: be January 15th. Bonus episodes for the Hard Foundation. So
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: we'll figure that out and we'll let you guys know.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll put up a little vote or some crap.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: What if we did.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: I know mine's a little different because I didn't do
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: as much. But what if we did from the release
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: to New Year's Day of that year?
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: That's easy. Does that work? Yeah.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: Like what we did from the moment we got called
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: with the release? Because there are some cool things.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: A lot of pod stuff. A whole AEW run.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: My whole AEW run. A lot of pod stuff. The
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: Retro Mania. The Super 7. It could really just be
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: a whole fucking Super 7. Impact vignettes.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that could be a cool.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I got an AEW run in there.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit, that's true. Yeah. I think we could do that.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: What do you think, Mark? How's that sound?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: That sounds great. That sounds great to me. Post. So,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: height of pandemic, professional wrestling career stuff.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. All right, well, at this point,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: we're out of time.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Peace. See ya. One, two, three. I'll be back, Jack.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you.