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This entire military is 1 per piece of dedicated force.
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And the threats to our nations, they don't sleep.
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They're watching our every move. Iran, Russia, China, North
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Korea, ISIS, Al Qaeda, they may be watching this right now.
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Our military should not be mistaken for our cable news gap
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test show. We don't care what you look
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like. We don't care who you voted for,
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who you worship, what you worship.
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Who you love? It doesn't matter if your dad
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left you millions when he died or if you knew who your father
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was. You have this quality over the
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machine of the evil moving parts that you would be wise to a
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horse if you want to stick to you.
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We will not be intimidated. We will not back down.
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We don't want. War.
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But if you want war in the United States of America,
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there's one thing I can promise you.
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So help me God, someone else will raise his friends and.
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Welcome to Veteran Talk with Magic Mike, where what's
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important to you is important to us.
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Let's talk. I'm your host, Magic Mike, and
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today we're diving deep into something close to my heart, how
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sharing your story and getting behind the mic can be a powerful
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form of rehabilitation, whether you're fresh out of service
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years into civilian life. 20 years it's been 20 years since
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we saw each other in Iraq and he.
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Looks older and. Personal.
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Now, we're not all poets or motivational speakers, but you'd
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be amazed at how therapeutic it can be just to talk.
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One thing I've learned is that every story has value.
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Doesn't matter if you were on the front lines or behind a
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desk. Your experience is worth sharing
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and trust me, somebody out there needs to hear it.
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Broadcasting gives us a way to say, hey, this is who I am and
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this is what I've been through. It bridges gaps, builds
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community and creates new purpose.
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Yeah, background noise. Now 8 string, we got background
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noise. What's going on, man?
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8 string. I made us.
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I made a Boo Boo. I made a Boo Boo.
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And he's all jacked up, man. This is what happens when you
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drink and drive like he's. No this.
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Is fucking the veterans talk on MBR?
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Radio happens when you motivate me to play with the mixer with
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the FXS and stuff. Just to give you guys an idea,
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walking up Veterans talk with DJ Magic Mike and H Train.
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As you guys know, we were battle buddies in Iraq, but before
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before we jumped on air. I have a new mixer and I started
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messing with the mixer and and the different sounds and stuff.
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And H Train was like, yeah, I like that.
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Let me, let me. So he started messing with his
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and now we got all jacked. But anyways, listen, it's been a
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couple weeks. We haven't been on the air.
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A lot of things going on, not just in the world, but in our
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own lives. And I want to apologize.
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We, you know, took a couple radio days.
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First and foremost, a happy belated birthday to H Train.
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He turned 40 plus years old. This guy's closer to 50 than
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anybody. Anyways, happy birthday to to H
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Train. Awesome, awesome, awesome man.
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You're you're climbing up there just like everybody.
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Thank you for joining our show. A big shout out to Frontier
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coffee shop in Granite Quarry, NC.
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All the guys out there. Troy is on vacation, so we
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haven't seen him, but all the guys out there, Frontier coffee
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shopping gals, just amazing group of people.
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They came up, stepped up to the plate when somebody needed some
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help. So there was a bunch of veterans
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that need a white T-shirts or like in a kind of like a
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veteran's home, if you will, like Hospice care and they need
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a white T-shirts. Man, We raised 1200 freaking
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dollars in in in a matter of 10 minutes, man, to buy T-shirts
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for them. It was pretty, pretty awesome.
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So big shout out to my brother who had surgery today.
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He's doing fine. Everything's good with him.
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That's awesome. He's the old geezer too.
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But yeah, we got, we got a good show to you for you today.
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And we got a lot going on. You know, there's a, there's a
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lot, man, lot going on. You know, whether whether you're
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Republican or Democrat, man, you got to you got to know that
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there's a lot going on in our world today.
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And even though our world's close in uncertainty, you know,
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we, we still are Americans and we love this country.
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You know, that's why we served it.
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But hello to all my veterans out there.
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Viewers, you can call into the show as well.
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Watch us on Roku television. We're on all kinds of platforms,
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media platforms, Blackhawk Broadcasting Networks up in
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here. We have a lot of people, man,
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look at this. This is awesome.
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But yeah, happy birthday, old timer.
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Blackhawk Broadcasting Networks. That's awesome.
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So yeah, I'm gonna be on. I'm gonna be on a show this
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Friday. Guess who invited me to be on
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their show? Who?
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Griz. Big Griz.
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Yeah, Big Griz. He's doing great.
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You know, a big shout out to Big Griz and his show.
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He's doing great. And he said he misses us and
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thanks of us all the time. So I reached out to him just on
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a whim and gave him a call and we we chatted.
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He said I'd like to have you on the show.
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You know, me and me and some friends are talking about him
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the other day because we haven't heard from him.
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He's ever since his dad died, which, you know, I can't blame
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him on. That yeah, he's, he's been a
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lot. I told him I said, listen, it's
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going to be a, you know, it's going to be a roller coaster.
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You have your highs and your lows, you know, and stuff like
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that. But he's holding together pretty
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good. He's a, he's a trooper.
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He definitely is a trooper. He's definitely a military man
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who's going to hold it together. But yeah, we got, we got a lot
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going on. So you guys, I'm, I'm going to,
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I'm, you know, we don't talk politics here, but everybody.
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Did anybody not see our president when he when they
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asked him about Israel and Iran and he said they don't know what
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the F they're doing? He didn't say that.
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Oh, dude, you got a clip of it. I know you do.
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Don't know what they're doing. That was Do that again.
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That they don't know what the they're doing.
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Listen, I laughed so hard. Let me tell you, though, the
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come on, We've we've known Trump for how long?
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Since he's been running in politics, man, come on, You know
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he's going to drop the F bomb sooner or later.
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They couldn't bleep it out quick enough.
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So yeah, all these networks are scrambling and, you know, they,
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they, I'm pretty sure they're getting fined by the FA.
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What I think is weird is what what I think is weird is on
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ChatGPT. I just thought to myself, you
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know, because he wants to be, he wants to be the first to do
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everything, you know, the 1st president, blah, blah.
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He, he, he does OK. And I'm thinking to myself, I
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bet he's going to be the first person to say the F bomb on
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national TV. So I did a chat thing and it
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said, no, he's not the first president.
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And it talked about all these other presidents, but it talked
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about how it was a hot mic and it caught it and.
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No, it was no. It was no hot mic here.
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People like he literally he doesn't care you.
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Know I'm sitting here watching on the news right now.
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If you guys aren't watching on Fox News, they're actually
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showing the Dan Sullivan. He's a Republican from Arkansas
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and he's a, a Senate Armed Services Committee and they're
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showing actual live footage of the actual bomb that they
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dropped 5 feet above. And, and as it's, as it's going
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into the actual, actual cavity or wherever the, the, you know,
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the underground bunkers were and stuff like that, the bunker
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Buster or whatever they call it. And it, it's quite, quite a
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race. Listen up, listen up.
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I'm, I'm going to get straight to the point people, I am tired
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and I know all of our military veterans that are out there are
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getting sick and tired of everybody saying, hey, I heard,
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I, you know, aren't you scared at the World War Three?
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Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
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Unless you're a fighter pilot, don't be worried.
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Let's give you a little guess. We have a / 143,000 active in
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service aircraft. That's B2 bomber, B52 bombers,
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that's F30 fives and all that stuff.
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Well, we're not even, we're not even doing grounds on troops.
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They've got fucking drones as cool as that.
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My bad. Your infantry days are gone.
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Let me tell you, if you're going to go in there to clean up,
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that's what we're going to do, go in there.
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And clean up. It's going to be robots now.
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Yeah. I mean, it's something with
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that, Yeah. So everybody talking about World
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War Three and everything like that.
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Listen here, here's the fact. Read a book once in a while.
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I don't care if you're left whitest or a conservative
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liberal. I don't care what you are.
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Read a book once in a while. Russia supplies oil to Europe,
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right? China receives their oil from
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Iran. All right.
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That's the only people that that are that are going to hurt.
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That's the only people, right? So, So Iran has been a thorn in
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our side forever. It's time that we put money
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where our mouth is. Listen, everybody who's served
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in combat tell you war is bad. Whether you're on the winning
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side or losing side of war is bad.
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David Bolivia said the best. David Bolivia served with us in
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Iraq in the battle of Fallujah with the First Division, he
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said. We don't want war, but if you
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want war with the United States of America, I guarantee you this
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will help somebody. Else, yeah, we have that.
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We used to have that on the like the intro.
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Yeah, we still have that on the intro.
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Yeah. And, and that's true.
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So listen, it's, it's, you know, it's it it's bad.
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It's war is not good. I don't condone it at all in any
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way, shape or form. Anybody that's served in combat
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will tell you a war is not good. It's destructive for both sides.
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Right. I will just tell you this.
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I am truly blessed that our Lord and Savior above made sure that
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we had a, a strike that did not impose harm or casualties.
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Let's just say that right? And then you know you're going
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to get to all these people. You know, I know it killed
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probably a bird on the ground. It probably killed the
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groundskeeper that was there. It probably no, listen, they
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have plenty of time to get out and evacuate.
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I I don't want to hear it. Listen and war is bad.
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It is bad. I'm I'm I'm looking at it right
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now. It's completely caved in the
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where these nukes were. We don't we don't need nukes in
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the hands of anybody. You know that that is
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irresponsible. We'll just leave it at that and
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that's my political brief right now.
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The other thing I wanted to talk about real quick is is the
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hatred that we have going around this, this this country right.
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Well, you. Know, and I, I think I might be
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a little bit enjoying and I want and I kind of want to get that
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off of my chest just so you know that I, I think a lot of people
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in this country, especially veterans, we're kind of tired of
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veterans using that vet card saying, hey, you know, I'm a vet
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and you know blah, blah, blah blah look, you know it it's OK
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to tell everybody that you're a veteran, but don't make it sound
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like. You're the subject matter expert
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because you're a veteran of being liberal or being a
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conservative or. Whatever right, because I had an
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argue I had AI had a fight with a friend about because like no
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matter what he does, dude, he's always against always against
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anybody that is not democratic. Let's just put it that way, you
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know and I'm like, look, you know this is this is just the
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truth. If you're always going to
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support that side and you're never going to support the other
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side, then I'm not going to get my news from you because you're
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not neutral. You're you, you, you've already
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been cited. You know, tell it how it is.
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Tell it directly how it is. I love it how when I get
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somebody to ask me a question, I give them the neutral answer.
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And then I'm like, but just remember this side over here,
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they did this last time and this side over here did this time.
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And guess what? That they don't know what
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they're doing exactly. That's exactly, that's exactly
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it. You know, listen, just because
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you served in the military and you're a veteran, you're not a
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subject matter expert, you know, keep your opinions to yourself.
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It's just like, you know, the actors out there and stuff like
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that, your political, you know, that's nobody cares in the in in
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the military world. We didn't care.
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I don't care about as a veteran who you believe in, what you
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believe in, who you worship, who you don't worship, who you think
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should run this country and not listen, man, we got four years.
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In four years, you can vote somebody else.
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Just give it four years, man. That's what I love about this
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country. I love about the military.
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If you didn't like your commander, give it four years.
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And just a shout out, Holly is getting ready to be our our new
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like marketing person, Hollywood.
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Hollywood hates Bad Holly productions, so she has joined
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the part of our team. She has taken V space and on
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Fridays we have the Morning Wood Show.
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That's her, that's her show, so. What time?
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What time is that on Friday mornings?
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Same time as like always, 10 AM Eastern. 10 AM so listen 10 AM
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Eastern Standard Time. If you're not watching, check
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out the That's your key to to help me out here.
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Yeah, check out the Morning Wood.
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So every Friday at 10 AM Eastern Standard Time this week we're
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going to be having a a comedian. So it won't be as serious.
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You know, it should be, should be pretty comical.
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What do you think of that, Holly?
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I see her in the chat right there.
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Read, read, read. Go ahead, Holly, we got your
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girl. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if she
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was saying that to me. Maybe I was like doing the whole
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stuttering thing like that. Stuttering to him, stuttering to
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him. All right, so Mike, before we go
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into our first break, you know, tell me about this cat that
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we're interviewing. I've I got.
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I've got so super cool, super cool dude.
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Yeah, so super cool dude. I met him.
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So as you all know that there's so many things out there.
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There's also another guy I'm going to have on on the show.
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He, he introduced me to infrared light therapy, which is
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phenomenal. I've had that done before.
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And you know, they're, listen, everybody knows that me to be in
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diagnos with PTSD, severe PTSD and stuff.
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I'm always looking for things that that help me and I'll share
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with you real quick before we go on break.
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Excuse me, allergies are killing me.
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So about two weeks ago, I was going to the grocery store and a
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bunch of Blackhawks flew over and they were flying over really
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low and they were in formation. And I kind of I kind of stopped
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for a second and I scurried into the supermarket, right?
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And my wife looks over at me and she says, you OK?
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And I was sweating profusely and I said, I'm all right.
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And she said, was it the helicopters?
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And say, yeah, a little. You know, when you're in combat
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and you have a dust off and stuff like that, it's it's
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something that triggers you, right?
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So I went home, I started my red light therapy right away.
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It's a hat that I put on. We're going to have him on the
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show. But anyways, so I met Chris and,
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and I'm always looking for new ways to help people with PTSD
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and, and stuff. And Chris is a Army veteran, I
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believe Army, but I'm positive he's Army.
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But, and Chris is a did a, it's psychedelic therapy.
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It's something they've been doing for years and years and
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years and years. And he actually went to Mexico
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and had it done. And it was paid for by an
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organization that helps veterans with severe PTSD.
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And I mean, he, he kicked the habit of drugs.
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He kicked the habit of, of, I mean, just everything that
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helped him out so bad, so awesome to get out of all these
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bad things. And I said, man, I'd love to
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have you on the show to talk about it.
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He's he's written a book about it and everything.
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It's pretty cool. So what's up, Flores?
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Flo Rider is in the house. My boy Flo Rider up in here.
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What's up, fam? Yeah, so.
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Back and I love it. Yeah, I love it.
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Guess who's coming? Back.
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Guess who's back? Back again.
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Louie money maker. Nice money maker's back.
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Yeah, money. In the military, he's he's
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coming back, I. Don't know if you haven't seen
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his show, he's pretty pretty awesome man.
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I don't know. I don't know when he'll be back,
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but he's after this. We have a, we have a training
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session, so. Yeah, hopefully we'll we'll be
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good. Well, again, you're listening to
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veterans talk on military broadcast radio.
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Yours truly, DJ Magic Mike and H train over there in the studio.
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What is that? I hope that's your finger.
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No, that's that, that, that, that's that's my, that's my duck
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I got. A.
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Duck on the 1 microphone. Yeah.
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Oh, I gotcha. We'll be right back after a
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quick break and then we'll have Chris.
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Well, we'll be close to Chris. We'll talk about some more stuff
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and then we'll have Chris on the air.
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Hey, before we go on break, do you want me to play one of his
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videos or do you want me to play a music video?
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Because you sent me two videos. I can play one of them.
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The other one I don't know if I can because it's over 10
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minutes. Play.
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Play whichever you want to. Pin OK, all right, so here.
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We. Go.
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We'll get that fixed. Yeah.
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There we go. All right, man, that's a hairy
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trigger. All right, When we come back,
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ladies and gentlemen, you listen to veterans talk right here on
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MB radio. When we come back, we might be
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talking to Chris. We don't know.
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We'll see. Now to a silent crisis gripping
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the nation. Suicide rates among service
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members are at an all time high. That's according to the
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Department of Defence releasing new data showing an alarming
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rise in suicides in the military.
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Once you get out, it's like you're left all of them.
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I struggled significantly and just losing what I was doing
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before at such a high level to now being completely dependent
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on everyone else. One month to the day of us being
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married, he had his accident. What issues were you having?
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Mostly memory loss, sleep, irritability, kind of short
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tempered but the older I got the more I realized my quality of
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life is kind of suffered. In our community, we take care
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of our own. That's what this is.
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We see our brothers and sisters struggling.
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They get out of the military and they feel alone.
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They've given their best part of them to their country and they
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have nothing left to give. We want to correct that.
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We want to resolve that problem. There's all proving.
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Grounds and opportunity for extraordinary people to continue
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doing extraordinary things. We say that in the special
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operations community, we're masters of the basics.
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At Resolve, we teach people to master the basics of good
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health, that's breathing, moving, eating, recovering, so
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that they can sleep. And we want to provide the
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training and the tools so that they can experiment on
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themselves, figure out what combination makes the right
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product for them. How do you feel after you go
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through the resolve protocol? Almost like relief.
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I just I feel like a new person. Body feels clean, my head feels
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just relaxed and clear. Spending 18 years and soft, you
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know, I've spent all that time doing things that weren't
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necessarily healthy for me. With that accumulation, there is
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no solution that is a one time fix for that kind of damage
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you're doing to your mental health and physical health.
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What's great about this protocol is it's something I can do on my
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own or, you know, whenever I feel like I need it to.
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I showed a habit of good patterns to finish it my mental
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and physical health. It's not a something that's here
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and then gone, It's something I can implement into my routine.
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As I call it bro therapy, that there is better than any of the
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other things I could do. And you're back with us here at
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Veterans Talk with your truly DJ magic mic and H training the
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studio. Pretty powerful man.
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So those of you don't know, tomorrow is PTSD awareness day.
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So you know, June is PTPTSD awareness month and then it
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culminates in on the 27th is to to raise the awareness of PTSD
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dedicated raising awareness about postmatch stress and its
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impact and to encourage those affected to seek treatment for
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PTSD is observed throughout the month of June with 20 so
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specifically recognized and as a day for focused awareness
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efforts. So those of you guys don't know
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me that I am doing a 50 mile ruck March and raise money for
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Purple Heart homes. So and that's that's that's what
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I'm doing tomorrow. Jesus help me Lord, don't let me
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die in this heat. Man, this heat has been crazy.
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How hot is it up there in Colorado?
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It's pretty hot, man. It's got it.
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Got about 100 yesterday so it's pretty hot.
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Geez, yeah. I mean, that's that's unheard of
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for for around these deasier parts here, young man.
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So, yeah, breaking news, the big beautiful Bill event at the
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White House. I mean, you got a lot going on,
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man. Lot going on.
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Geez. Yeah, something about Planned
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Parenthood, like 6 to 1 or whatever.
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I don't know if that means that Supreme Court like turned over
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what I I don't know what that all that was, but that's a lot
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of breaking news about it. That's crazy.
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I'm asking him to join, see if you can get him in into the
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backstage. Yeah, well, if he wants to be in
23:00
a phone call too, it does. It doesn't really matter.
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That's it. Oh, there we go.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it is the Interview of the Week.
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23:23
Talk with Chris. Chris, man, first and foremost,
23:27
welcome to the show. It was awesome meeting you.
23:29
Thank you. Sorry we didn't get you to come
23:32
on the show last week. We took a radio day.
23:35
But yeah, you're here. Hey.
23:37
Man, yeah, tell us no worries. Tell us about everything.
23:39
Tell us who you are, where you're from, and tell us about
23:42
the program. We just played a little video.
23:43
I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, we we played a little
23:47
video that you had sent me and it was man, it's powerful.
23:50
And you know, we got PTSD month. Call me with tomorrow be a PTSD
23:54
awareness day. So tell us about it man.
23:57
Without further ado, Chris. Hey, yeah, I'm Chris.
24:00
I'm from Born and raised in Rowan County, North Carolina,
24:03
from Salisbury, graduated from South Rowan High School, spent
24:07
25 years in the Army from 1986 to 2011, got to do a lot of fun
24:12
things. And once I retired from the
24:15
Army, I went and taught high school and went crazy doing
24:19
that. So I retired from that as well
24:21
and. That's where your PTSD comes
24:22
from, is from the high school. Yeah, I got you on that one.
24:25
Yeah, You want to talk about high adventure?
24:26
I'll tell you what. No, I loved it.
24:29
I loved it with the kids. But because of PTSD, because of
24:33
all of my, you know, TBI, concussions, things of that
24:37
nature, I just, I honestly had no quality of life.
24:40
I mean, I couldn't even by the end of the day standing there
24:42
trying to teach, I will, I was wiped out when I came home.
24:46
Then I would sleep until supper, get up, eat and then go to bed
24:50
and get up and do it all over again the next day.
24:52
So, you know, that it just was not a sustainable lifestyle and,
24:56
and I didn't know how to deal with it.
24:59
You know, I'd had my, my addictions and I had, and other
25:03
things that, you know, it just, once you get addicted, it just
25:06
starts spiraling and you just keep going down to down and
25:08
down. And so fortunately I was able to
25:11
run into an old friend and who said that they had had some
25:14
amazing breakthroughs with psychedelic therapy And, and I,
25:19
I never done anything like that in my life.
25:21
I mean, the closest thing, you know, would have been, you know,
25:23
experimenting with marijuana. But you know, beyond that, I'm,
25:26
you know, nicotine was my big addiction.
25:30
It doesn't matter what you're addicted to.
25:32
That is how you know Satan works on you and he gets to you
25:36
through addictions. And you know, you'll justify
25:39
anything in your own mind to get your addiction.
25:41
So wow. So anyway, now.
25:44
You served in the Army, am I correct?
25:45
That is correct. OK, good, good.
25:47
I didn't want to mess that up. I said that one time before I
25:49
got, I was in the Coast Guard and I'm like.
25:51
Oh. Shit, and it's pronounced Rowan,
25:53
not Rowan. That's correct.
25:56
I got I got corrected that many times.
25:58
I say Rowan, he they say, excuse me, Rowan.
26:00
No, it's Rowan. I'm like my bad, my bad.
26:03
Yeah, I get to work. Are you familiar with Robin
26:05
Sage? With, with, I'm sorry, say.
26:08
Robin Sage. Yes, absolutely.
26:11
OK, so I work with that. I'm a role player.
26:13
And so whenever the students come in, you know, they're
26:16
Americans and we're, you know, the North Pineland Province,
26:20
whenever they start pronouncing, as soon as they say Rowan, I'm
26:24
making that cry. I said, boy, I said let me tell
26:25
you, you say that around these parts and they're going to know
26:28
you're not going around. Here, Yeah.
26:31
So those guys don't know where Robin Sage is.
26:33
It's it's it's pretty intense training.
26:35
I'll just say it that way. It's intense training.
26:37
It's a real life training. Matter of fact, they adopted
26:40
that. That was that was, I mean that's
26:42
been around for years and years, Vietnam era and stuff like that.
26:44
But it's they adopted that. When we started trading up to go
26:48
to Iraq, a lot of us participated in that.
26:50
And I know I did it in Germany and and, you know, to train them
26:55
up so they can get a realistic, you know, we got, you know, we
26:58
got the mosque in the background, Blair music and
27:00
stuff like that. And we're walking around and see
27:02
how they, you know, how they act in certain situations.
27:04
But yeah, it's pretty awesome. So, so, so you came back home
27:08
from Iraq and you said, hey, I'm going to try this.
27:12
I'm I'm going to try this thing out.
27:13
So how did you hear about it, or how did you become first aware
27:15
of it? Well, the very first time I
27:19
heard about it when I was a school teacher, I read Graham
27:21
Hancock. He's a a journalist author and
27:26
he had now I have been addicted to nicotine since I was four
27:29
years old. Not for four years, but I mean
27:32
age. 4I grew up on a dairy farm initially and I would go feed
27:38
the calves with my grandfather twice a day and he'd give me a
27:41
dip of Copenhagen. And so that started the
27:44
addiction. By third grade, I was buying it
27:46
on my own. So when I joined the Army, and
27:50
of course you're, you know, you're aware as yourself when
27:53
you go on these deployments. For me, it was not, am I going
27:57
to die? Is this kind of, is that going
27:58
to happen? Is how am I going to get
28:00
Copenhagen? So I always had a plan in place
28:03
I would take, I would carry it with me.
28:06
Then as soon as we got an address, my wife was on
28:09
autopilot of buying a log and sending it every so many days.
28:13
So my whole life centered around this addiction.
28:15
So anyway, I read Graham Hancock, he had talked about
28:21
going down to South America and doing what's called Ayahuasca
28:24
DMT, had no clue what that was. I did not know what a shaman
28:29
was, but he said that he did it one time and he never craved
28:33
nicotine again. And so here I've tried
28:36
everything. I've every product that existed,
28:39
every therapy, you name it, I had tried it.
28:44
And so whenever I would fail, and here's the part about
28:48
addictions that I think a lot of people overlook.
28:51
It's not the fact that you don't want to quit, it's that when you
28:55
do fail, everyone reminds you that you're a failure and that
29:00
just causes you to spot further and further and further and,
29:03
and, and a lot of times they do it not with I'll intentions is,
29:08
but it's just how you receive it because it's like, well, why
29:11
can't I do this? I did all these things in the
29:13
army for 25 years. Why can't I simply just quit?
29:18
And so because it's an addiction, I will start lying.
29:21
I would, you know, I would, I would tell my wife I'm going to
29:24
quit. And then I would pretend I
29:26
quitted. And then, you know, I would just
29:28
lie about it until I got caught. And then there'd be a big fight
29:31
and it just was no longer sustainable.
29:34
And so, but reading Graham Hancock, where am I going to
29:38
find a shaman? I don't even know what that is.
29:40
They're not. They're not.
29:41
They're definitely not in Rowan or right now.
29:44
That is correct. So I just happened to go back to
29:48
a, you know, one of the organizations I served with.
29:50
I went back to a reunion and a friend of mine that I'd served
29:54
with ages ago was now working for a veteran organization
29:58
called, you know, A5O1C called Special Operations Care Fund.
30:04
And he talked about the effects, the efficacy of the psychedelic
30:08
therapy. And immediately Graham Hancock
30:11
came to mind. And so I went up and talked and
30:15
I was like, hey, man, how can I get in this program?
30:19
And he, he started explaining it to me, you know, OK, well,
30:22
psychedelics are illegal in the United States, but they're legal
30:25
in Mexico. And it's a medical procedure in
30:29
Mexico. So I thought, well, that's
30:31
fantastic. But man, I cannot afford to
30:34
just, you know, jump on an airplane, go down or whatever.
30:37
And he goes, hey, no problem. He said, you're a veteran.
30:40
He served in special operations community.
30:43
He said we can get you down there for free.
30:45
So I volunteered for what was called a trifecta study.
30:50
The trifecta had to do with hormone replacement therapy,
30:54
magnetic resonance therapy, and then psychedelic therapy.
30:58
So I've done all of them except for the psychedelic.
31:00
Go ahead, I'm I'm listening. This is interesting.
31:03
Yeah, because the the magnetic resonance therapy, I wish they
31:06
would get that at the VA hospital here in Salisbury, but
31:09
it's. Expensive though.
31:10
It cost $23,000 for the one I went to out in Texas.
31:13
I went to Texas. OK.
31:15
Yeah. So we went off the one in San
31:16
Diego and, and, and again, thanks to these veteran
31:20
organizations like Sock F. And then the big one is vets,
31:24
veterans exploring treatment solutions.
31:28
That one was started by. Say that one more time.
31:30
That's pretty cool. It's called Vets and it stands
31:33
for Veterans Exploring Treatment Services.
31:35
Solutions. Solutions.
31:36
I'm sorry, veterans, exploring treatment solutions.
31:40
Correct. And so the, the owner or The Who
31:43
started the company is actually a lady named Amber Capone and
31:47
her husband was Marcus Capone or is Marcus Capone.
31:51
And they were, he was a former Navy SEAL.
31:54
And she recognized that the treatments that the VA were
31:58
providing and, and whatever else they can find, it just wasn't
32:01
effective. Not because the VA doesn't want
32:04
to help, but they are restricted, you know?
32:06
What they can do right? Yeah, so she began to look into
32:10
the psychedelic therapy and how, you know, indigenous cultures,
32:14
Native Americans with peyote, you know, psilocybin and magic
32:18
mushrooms down in Mexico, where, you know, these things are
32:21
actually legal, South America, ayahuasca, DMT, you know, all
32:25
these different modalities. So her and Marcus partnered with
32:31
a company called Ambio Life Sciences.
32:35
Now they're based out of Canada, but I think the psychedelics is
32:40
I think it's illegal in Canada as well, but they're based out
32:42
of Canada, but their business operates in Mexico and so they
32:47
partner together to help veterans and you go down for a
32:51
weak retreat and you go through their modality, which is
32:55
ibogaine and five MEODMT. So, so that's those
33:02
organizations. That's how I found out about it.
33:05
So what we're trying to do, and I'll, I can explain more if you
33:08
want to hear about the modality of the two psychedelics.
33:10
But for because I was in special operations vets, the veterans
33:17
exploring treatment solutions and Sock F special operations
33:21
care fund, they catered to to me.
33:24
Now for other veterans that are out there that might want to try
33:26
this, there's the mission within and I'll, I'll pull up the
33:33
other. There's another one that I
33:34
pulled up the other day as well. They also focus on psychedelic
33:37
therapy. And we'll get veterans,
33:40
regardless of, you know, where you may have worked in the
33:43
military, you know, if you're suffering and we all suffered in
33:47
some in some way, you know, it's just, let's just use hearing as
33:52
an example. I didn't when I was getting
33:55
ready to retire, I was not that concerned about my hearing loss.
33:58
And but my doctor, he looked at me, he goes.
34:03
But you have to understand you're hearing is not like the
34:07
bank tellers, nothing against bank tellers, but you're hearing
34:11
is not where theirs is. And that's because of your
34:14
service. So let's look at that at any,
34:16
you know, you have an addiction or you have a mental, you know,
34:20
you have some sort of PTSD or some sort of trauma.
34:23
Well, that is significant because a lot of people, well a
34:27
whole lot of Americans don't experience what we do, you know,
34:30
while we're training. I mean, just being around a 50
34:33
caliber machine gun, that in and of itself will just take that
34:37
plasticity that's in the brain and just turn it to mush.
34:41
So, so anyway, I would reach out.
34:46
I'm sure anyone can get on their computer and they can, you know,
34:49
Google, you know, psychedelic therapy for veterans and, and
34:53
you're going to get a, a list of a bunch of, you know, different
34:56
organizations that are willing to sponsor, they'll leave them
34:59
sponsor the wives, the dependents.
35:02
So it's a phenomenal program. So the modality that I went
35:07
through down in Mexico and when I say it's a medical procedure,
35:12
like I'm telling you, it's I had to have an EKG before I went
35:16
down and I had to send that EKG to them.
35:19
The doctor down in Mexico that works for Ambio, he had to
35:22
approve it. Once I got down there, we did a
35:27
lot of the traditional Mexican programs, I guess you would call
35:34
it. So we did the traditional NFA
35:38
sweat lodge, which was an experience in and of itself,
35:41
which I thought was fascinating. So, so, so let me RIP you real
35:45
quick. How long is the actual whole
35:47
thing, the procedure that you go down there for, How long is that
35:49
actually? Four days.
35:51
That's it. Four days.
35:52
That's it. Four days.
35:53
Let's pick it up. You had to be nervous.
35:56
Oh gosh, yes, I cried like a baby.
35:58
I and I'll I'm not ashamed to admit it.
36:01
Yeah, this is something huge, right?
36:03
So you go, so you go down to Mexico, you meet up with the
36:05
doctors and everything like that.
36:06
They already got your, your EKG and they they're making sure
36:09
that you're OK and fit to do this.
36:10
What, what do you do? What's the first process of it?
36:14
Well, you move in, so they have a house in a gated community so
36:20
to speak, where you get checked into the house.
36:25
You meet the entire staff, you meet the doctors, you meet the
36:27
nurses, you meet the providers, and then you get moved into your
36:32
room and, and, and I'm talking first class accommodations, I'm
36:36
talking I'm. Ready to go right now?
36:38
Yeah, they roll out the they roll out the red carpet for you
36:42
because and the and although like Trevor Miller, he is one of
36:46
the Co founders of Ambio. He's a Canadian, but he loves
36:50
veterans and he is well versed in ibogaine therapy and five
36:55
MEODMT. So you get down there, it's a
36:58
Monday morning, you get moved in.
37:02
But there's also integration. Let me back up a step.
37:05
When you agree to go through this, this is not some party
37:09
trick. This isn't recreational.
37:12
If you take psychedelics with a recreational mindset, that is
37:16
exactly what you're going to get out of it.
37:18
It's just a recreational. Trip or whatever it is, yeah.
37:21
Exactly. So these, this is these
37:23
psychedelics, when you know, when you hear the psychedelics,
37:25
you're taking mushrooms in a bad trip or whatever.
37:28
So these are not that's, that's not it.
37:29
This is a regulated through medical therapy.
37:32
That's correct. Yeah.
37:33
Matter of fact, it's actually done based on your body weight,
37:36
your body chemistry. They do all kinds of blood
37:38
tests. I mean, you name it, but prior
37:42
to going down there, I had to talk to an integration coach
37:45
five times. I had to have 5-1 hour sessions
37:48
with the integration coach. And what the integration coach
37:51
does, they've have experienced the medicine themselves.
37:56
The majority of them have had some sort of addiction or
37:59
problem. So my integration coach was a
38:02
female named Jennifer. You know, she had an eating
38:06
disorder and so she did the therapy this.
38:09
Is for everything. Oh, yeah.
38:10
I mean, it's, it's, you name it. So.
38:13
And I mean, I would spend this time, excuse me, you know,
38:17
speaking over the phone and trying to set your intentions.
38:22
And that's what was critical of the difference between, you
38:25
know, doing it recreationally versus medical is I set my
38:30
intentions and my intentions were clear.
38:33
I wanted to quit nicotine. That was it that I figured that.
38:36
They focus on that. Yeah.
38:38
So that had been a part of my entire life.
38:42
I did not know what life was like without nicotine.
38:44
So that's what the intentions were set on.
38:49
So I get we get picked up on a Monday morning because it's a
38:52
medical procedure. When you cross the border there
38:55
around, you know, just South of San Diego, you rush right
38:59
through, you go to the head of the line, you get to the, to the
39:03
house, you meet everyone, you get checked into your room, and
39:07
then we'll circle up. And so you've got a group of
39:09
veterans. You're talking about men like
39:11
yourself who have, you know, done this nation's bidding.
39:14
And, you know, there are times when we do things that, you
39:17
know, we, we just don't talk about because they're just the,
39:21
the horrible things that we are required to do.
39:24
And so here you have those men. Buckets of tears, man, No
39:28
judgement. This is an environment where you
39:32
just get to open up. So is the is the treatment
39:35
almost instantaneously, like when you're done with it,
39:38
you're, you're, it's like you, you don't want to pick up
39:41
another can of Copenhagen or, or or whatever be it.
39:44
Well, I will tell you what I did.
39:46
I'll jump to the end of the story since you asked.
39:49
My last dip of snuff was on the Monday night, which was May 30th
39:55
of 2023. And that was I had one dip of
40:00
snuff left in my can and that was for me to have after we did
40:04
the NFP sweat lodge. And I did that when I crossed
40:09
back across the border that Friday, Friday afternoon, I had
40:13
my one of my buddies had come to pick us up and I said I had him
40:18
stopped at one of the convenience stores and I walked
40:21
in and I bought a can of snuff. And he will tell you, he sat in
40:24
the car going, Oh my gosh, it didn't work for him.
40:27
But what I did is I bought that can.
40:30
I came back out to the car and I took my fingernail and I opened,
40:34
I tore the paper and I left just like that.
40:38
And I've not touched it since. And it's still, it's still
40:40
sitting in my gun safe. And so, so of course, my my wife
40:44
that was more concerned about this, you know, obviously, why
40:49
did you buy that can? And I was like, because I needed
40:52
to prove to myself, I control me.
40:56
Nothing else controls me. And so and so I've kept that can
41:00
and I'm going to keep it. Forever.
41:02
So, so, so, so if somebody wants to try this therapy or go
41:08
through this therapy or, or who, who would they get in contact
41:11
with you? How would they start that
41:12
process? Well, take that veterans
41:16
exploring treatment solutions, I think it's vetsolutions.com or
41:20
it's vetsolutions.org. You'll find it better.
41:24
Veterans exploring treatment solutions, contact them contact
41:28
mission within contact special operations care fund.
41:33
They'll be in their menu bars, they have apply and so you just
41:37
go in, you fill in the fill out the application and someone will
41:41
be in touch with you. Now, again, I know that
41:44
different veterans organizations cater the, you know, slightly
41:47
different folks depending on what you did for a living.
41:51
And then and so that could have a if this organization doesn't
41:55
accept you, then I will. I would almost guarantee that
41:59
they will give you the contact information for the one that
42:02
they that will help you if that makes.
42:05
Sense whoever it is, yeah, yeah. So.
42:08
That that's that's I mean I I think that's something that
42:11
everybody should explore at least look into and try and you
42:17
know, you're getting you're getting me dizzy there H train
42:22
stop I'm. Trying.
42:22
I'm trying to. I'm.
42:24
Trying to fix this. I'm trying to fix this and
42:27
you're not. You're not being patient.
42:28
Hold on bro. I keep removing him.
42:31
I keep removing him from the stage and he's like, stop, stop
42:33
messing with it. So that was the worst thing he
42:35
ever did was gave me power to, to, to like produce like this
42:39
stuff, you know. So just a little background.
42:41
H train and I served in the Army together.
42:43
We served in Iraq. We both, we both were injured
42:45
about the same time. And yeah, and H Train was one of
42:50
my soldiers. He was, I mean, we had a lot of
42:52
fun. We were stationed in Germany,
42:53
man. We, yeah, we, we had a lot of
42:55
fun. You know, what happens in
42:56
Germany stays in Germany, if you know what I mean.
42:58
But yeah, we had a, we had a great time.
43:00
And he's, he's been an inspiration to me and all
43:02
veterans. So TBI, early onset dementia, I
43:06
mean, just everything you know, and H Train's been, he's been a
43:10
trip, man. He's been a trip.
43:12
He's like, no, I would recommend going to John Hopkins University
43:17
website because it was President Bush in the year 2000 that
43:21
allowed John Hopkins to start testing and researching
43:26
psychedelic therapy for veterans and dementia.
43:29
That if I'm, if I remember correctly, I just was on their
43:33
site not long ago and I think I was reading something about the
43:37
efficacy of dementia and. So there's been a study that
43:41
says that PTSD is severe PTSD in the in the mind and the brain,
43:48
that there's a there's a connection with that in dementia
43:52
and early dementia, early onset of dementia.
43:54
Yeah. It's, it's pretty crazy on the
43:55
medicine of Journal of Medicine or whatever it was I was
43:58
reading. Yeah, man, listen, I stick
44:01
around. We got the tribute to the troops
44:02
coming up here in a second. Yeah, man, Pretty awesome, man.
44:07
Like I said, you know, I met you out there at Frontier Coffee
44:10
Shop. Great, great group of guys out
44:12
there. I forget who it was that
44:14
introduced me to you, but yeah, I'm glad they did.
44:17
Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad they did, man.
44:19
And a great goofy eyes out there and stuff.
44:21
I know we, I know you and I are probably the youngest ones out
44:23
there. Yeah, that's probably true.
44:27
Yeah, you're welcome on the show.
44:28
Anytime, man, anytime. But yeah, we're going to do
44:31
tribute. You still there?
44:32
H Strain. I know he's in the back of it.
44:34
I'm still here. I just, I had to set up things.
44:37
You just got to be patient with me, that's all.
44:39
That's the only problem we're going to we're going to go ahead
44:41
and do our tribute to the troops and we'll be right back on
44:44
veterans talk yours true, the DJ Magic Mike and our special guest
44:48
of the week. Hey, Chris, we have a segment
44:50
where it's it's your time to shine.
44:52
It's it's your time to talk. We give you a couple minutes to
44:55
just you want to give a shout out to anybody to say hi to
44:57
anybody, thank you to anybody, whatever.
44:59
It's just your time. We, we, you take it away,
45:01
brother, it's all yours. We're just in the background,
45:03
that's all. That's all we do.
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Hey, brother. Oh, for me.
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Oh, OK. Well, I, if I do a shout out to
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anybody, it's going to be to AMBO Life sciences, Trevor and
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Jonathan and Isaac for, for being willing to, to assist
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veterans regardless of where they come from.
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And the shout out goes to Amber Marcus component vets.
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I mean, without her groundbreaking work and her, her
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willingness to, to find solutions, I mean, it's just
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inspiring. And then just all the other
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folks out there that work for these five O 1 CS that are, that
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are, and the donors, those that are donating money.
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And I think that could probably for someone who's not a veteran
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but would love to contribute, find these organizations that do
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psychedelic therapy for veterans and please donate to them and
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sponsor a veteran to go down to Mexico.
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Hopefully, we'll be able to get this legal here in the United
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States at some point. But until then, Mexico was it's
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the way to go. It is the way to go.
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So that's my shout out to them is the Ambio Vets and Sakaf.
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As as always, we appreciate you being on the show, man.
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It's it's an honor to meet you and thank you for your service.
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I know that's cliche, you know, from veteran veteran, but thank
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you for your service and thank you for coming on the show and
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talking about it. I mean, it's again, it's another
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tool that we can put in our belt to help with the, you know, your
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PTSD and and you know, different things that we got going on in
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our lives and stuff like that. Again, Chris, thank you so much.
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We come back. We will be tributed troops is
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next right H string. So we're going to go to tributed
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troops and then we'll be right back.
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Detail attention. First call.
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The service member's name is called out loud in the context
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of a unit. This is meant to ensure all are
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present and accounted for. Second call.
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The name is called out again louder to confirm that the
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service member is indeed absent. Third call.
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The name is called out for a final time, followed by a
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statement indicating that the service member is not present
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and accounted for, signifying their death.
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The final roll call serves as a symbolic gesture to respect and
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remember their service. Sir, I don't, I don't know how
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to tell the story. Well, you got the joke.
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You're telling their people what these men did here.
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You tell them how much troopers died.
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Hey everyone, thank you for tuning in to MBR.
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Today is we pay tribute to Army veteran William Lewis Bill Ray,
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age 76 of Arlington, TX. Bill was born on May 7th, 1946
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in Dallas, TX to William Burrell Ray and Dorothy Ray.
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Bill and his family moved to Hobbs, NM in 1948.
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He graduated from high school in 1964 in Hobbs, NM.
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Bill then attended the University of Oklahoma on a
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football scholarship. After his time at the University
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of Oklahoma, he served in the Army starting in July of 1967 in
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the 39th Engineer Combat Battalion, including a tour in
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Vietnam. Bill met the love of his life,
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Carolyn, in 1990 and they married on August 18th, 1991.
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Bill lived a life of service including serving as the
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President of the 39th Engineer Italian CBT Alumni Association
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and as the Commander of the American Legion Mansfield, TX
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Post 624 for many years, making an impact on the lives of past,
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current, and future veterans. During his time serving with the
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39th Battalion and the American Legion, he helped to start the
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Veteran's Day Parade for the City of Mansfield, TX.
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He also worked to restart the Voice State program in Mansfield
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ISD schools as well as working in partnership with the ROTC
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program in the schools in Mansfield, TX.
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Bill Ray passed away peacefully on March 25th, 2023.
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Bill is preceded in death by his parents and brothers, Doug and
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Bob Ray. He is survived by his wife
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Carolyn, brothers and extended family.
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We here at NBR, we'd like to thank you, Bill Ray for your
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service and dedication to our country.
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You leave a legacy of love and courage.
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Our prayers are with you, your family, friends and those who
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served alongside you. You are miss.
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The web at MB radio dot. Hey, we're back with veterans
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talk with yours true, the DJ Magic Mike and H training
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studio. Our special guest Chris here.
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We talked about psychedelics upcoming, you know, PTSD month
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on in June is PTSD month with the culmination of PTSD
55:56
awareness day, which is tomorrow.
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So everybody knows that veterans exploring treatment solutions,
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Special Operations Care Fund, Heroic Hearts project and the
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mission within. So those are all really
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important. If anybody has any questions,
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please feel free to. You can always e-mail me at DJ.
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Magic Mike. At MB radio dot US man I always
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mess it up. This is a great day at Scoutery
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Zone. Magic.
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Mike, it is totally up to you. If you want to run over a little
56:40
bit, it's it's totally up to you.
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But if not, then we got our final thoughts.
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Let's let's do our let's do our final thoughts, brother.
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OK, All right. Here we go.
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I thought you was going to pick the lather of the two.
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I didn't really think he was. Going to see.
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Listen, man, I can't with you, man, I can't with you anymore.
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So I got the TV in front of me. It's you.
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Know I I have aggravated you all that much already.
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Yeah. Why am I?
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This is what happens when you do drugs, ladies and gentlemen,
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actually. This is why you don't eat paint
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chips, kids. This is what happens when you
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turn 47 years old You. Know.
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What? Joel just had a birthday a
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couple of nights the day before yesterday, so yeah.
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Happy birthday. He's getting up to our age,
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Chris. Well, there you go.
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I think somebody deleted it. Actually, it's not even there.
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Anyways, here's our final thought thought for today.
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I talk about PTSDI, talk about what works for me, right?
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I've done transdermal magnetic stimulation.
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I've done countless amounts of meditation, hypnosis.
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What do they call the other one? EMEMPD.
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MDT. Or whatever you call it.
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Yeah, I've done all of it. And you have to find the thing
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that works for you. And here are my final thoughts.
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Chris brings up a great, great, a great topic and that's trying
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something that will help you, right?
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Do the research. We listen, you have ChatGPT, you
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have the Internet, Google, Siri, you've got all these tools now
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that we did not used to have that you can do your own
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research. There isn't a medication right
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now, and I'm just going to share this with my final thought.
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There is a medication right now that if you take it, it can cure
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a certain element that you have. But here are the side effects.
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Death, sudden death, stroke, heart attack, loss of liver
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function, kidney function. Do you think I'm going to take
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that? I was.
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Going to sign me up I. Read up on that thing.
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And I so, so there's actual website you can go to.
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It's by the federal government and they have to say how many
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people actually died from taking this this drug.
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And there was 3924 that actually died, sudden death.
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There was over 4600 that actually had a stroke.
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There was 10,000, 1000 something that had liver damage.
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Do you think I'm going to try that medical drug?
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Probably not. I'm probably going to stick to
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aspirin. I'm just going to say I'll just
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stick to aspirin. So here's my final thoughts.
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Find out, do your research what's good for you.
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This is obviously something that works, right?
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If I didn't think it worked, I wouldn't have them on my show,
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right? It may not work for for
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everybody. Let's try, right, give it a try.
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Why not? Chris went out-of-the-box and
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said I'm going to give it a try and it worked and it's worked
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for many. And this is research has been
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done over and over on this and. You know, and I want to add.
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This up for years. I'm going to add something
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because, you know, I, I can just, I can just hear people
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like my dad being, oh, you know, I run to Vietnam and we're
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running, you know, you're going to have boomers out there that
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are always going to be against this because they were raised.
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They were raised, they were brought up to think about.
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But let me, let me throw this out to everybody to think of it.
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Just another point of view, OK. They give us sleep meds.
1:00:15
They give us PTSD meds sooner or later as you grow older.
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Those meds, they have to change them because they accumulate,
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they they get acclimated to your body.
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These drugs that we're talking about, they're natural.
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So it's not exactly, you know, they don't, they don't like feed
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into the body, like your body doesn't get used to them.
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That's the reason why they're so effective.
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So instead of people, you know, I 'cause I can just hear my dad,
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Oh, I, I ain't doing LSD. You know what?
1:00:49
We're not talking about doing LSD.
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They're like, oh man, I'm tripping, you know L.
1:00:54
SDLSD is a chemical, right versus a, a natural homeopathic,
1:01:00
if you will, way of do what They listen, We all heard it before,
1:01:05
right? When nobody has died from
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smoking weed. You might have thought he was
1:01:08
dead, but he was hungry enough in about 20 minutes to wake up
1:01:11
and eat everything in your house.
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It is a plant. It happens to have some effects
1:01:16
once it's set on fire, right? They've been, listen, the
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Indians, the Indians are Native Americans have been using that
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for years. The Mayans have been using that
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for, for medical purposes for years.
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And it's, you know, Parkinson's disease, dementia, I mean, all
1:01:30
these different things. If you're against it, I got it.
1:01:33
Listen, if it's against your religion, whatever, I got it.
1:01:36
But try something that's going to help you.
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Besides, everybody knows my story.
1:01:40
My doctor is currently serving a death row sentence right now for
1:01:45
killing twelve soldiers. That was my doctor at Walter
1:01:48
Reed Hospital. He was prescribing us medication
1:01:50
that if we would have took, would have killed us.
1:01:52
It was a deadly cocktail. So Doctor Nidal Hassan, right.
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And, and you can look that up. I challenge anybody.
1:01:58
Fact Check me at Doctor Nidal Hassan was at.
1:02:01
I heard that name. Yeah.
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Who shot and killed 12 soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas.
1:02:05
He was literally, he was literally giving us medicine at
1:02:08
Walter Reed Hospital that if we would have took it, we would
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have died. But there was seven or eight of
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us that did not take it because our nurse wouldn't give it to
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us. And, and, and, and, you know,
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there's so many different things out there.
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Now, listen, I'm not, I'm not saying all medicine is bad.
1:02:22
Trust me. I'm not saying that at all.
1:02:24
Blood thinners, people need them whatever to survive.
1:02:26
I'm just saying if something's not working for you, don't give
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up. It's not.
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The end of the road. There are other options out
1:02:33
there, and this happens to be one that's phenomenal.
1:02:36
And Mike, I would my final thoughts on this would be is you
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alluded to it when we were on active duty, we had to suck it
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up here, take some Motrin, keep going soldier.
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We don't have to suck it up anymore.
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No, we don't. We don't.
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There's other options. Yeah, absolutely there's other
1:02:51
options. This and the sucking it up days
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are gone. Everybody knows.
1:02:55
My my commander told me Rangers don't cry.
1:02:58
They don't, they don't have PTSD.
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Da da da da da da. He wrote a book about PTSD once
1:03:02
he got out of the army. Go figure, right?
1:03:05
So the, the, the, the, the moral to the story is that if it
1:03:09
doesn't work, try something else, right?
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You don't have to suck it up. And that's great.
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I'm going to steal that from you, Chris.
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That's well said. You don't have to suck it up
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anymore, right? Who who would have ever thought
1:03:19
that taken too much Motrin would ruin your kidneys?
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That's right. Or your liver.
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You know, so I'll leave all of you with that.
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Chris, it's an honor to have you on my show.
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You're welcome anytime here. Thanks for sharing your story
1:03:30
with us. Please reach out.
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It's it's well worth it. It really is so and again, thank
1:03:37
you for joining us here on veterans talk with yours truly,
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DJ Magic Mike and a trainer. Our special crit special guest,
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Chris from Rowan. It's Salisbury.
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And I'm going to tell you what Salisbury spelled Salisbury.
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It's looks like it's Solisberry, but it's Salisbury.
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So thank you so much, Chris for being here.
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We love to have you again. Thank you a train for being in
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the studio, being my my class goofy actress.
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Yeah, class clown. And we'll catch you all next
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week on Thursday with yours true the DJ Magic Mike.
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