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Navigating the Symphony: My Experience with an Orchestra · Music Explored Podcast

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  And
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  the
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  biggest
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  task,
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  I
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  think,
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  was
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  when
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  I
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  met
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  the
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  orchestra
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  at
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  the
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  very
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  first
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  rehearsal.
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  I
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  turned
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  up
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  and
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  I
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  walked
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  in
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  and
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  they
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  were
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  all
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  rehearsing
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  another
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  piece.
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  And
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  I,
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  I
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  thought,
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  crikey,
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  I
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  thought
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  it
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  was
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  a
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  bit
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  overwhelming,
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  to
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  be
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  honest
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  with
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  you,
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  because,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  come
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  from
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  a
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  working
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  class
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  background
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  and
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  orchestras
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  are
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  mainly
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  sort
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  of
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  highly
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  educated
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  middle
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  class,
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  you
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  know,
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  and,
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  and
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  they
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  know
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  their
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  stuff.
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  And
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  then
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  the,
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  the,
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  the
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  guy
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  turned
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  around
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  who
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  was
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  conducting
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  and
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  he
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  said,
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  oh,
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  the,
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  the,
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  the
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  composer's
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  here.
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  And
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  I
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  was
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  going,
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  what?
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  You
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  know,
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  not.
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  I'm
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  not
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  a
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  composer,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  he
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  said,
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  david,
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  would
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  you
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  just
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  kind
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  of
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  say
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  a
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  few
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  words
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  about
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  your
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  piece?
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  And
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  I,
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  I
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  said,
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  no,
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  no,
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  no,
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  it's
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  fine.
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  You
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  guys
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  just
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  go.
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  And
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  he
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  said,
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  no,
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  come
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  on.
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  So
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  I
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  stood
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  up
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  and
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  I
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  started
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  talking
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  about
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  it
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  and
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  was,
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  I
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  was
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  worried
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  because
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  there
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  was
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  once
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  or
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  twice,
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  you
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  know,
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  that
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  one
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  of
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  them
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  would
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  turn
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  around
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  and
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  say,
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  David,
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  you've
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  got
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  an
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  F
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  sharp
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  major
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  written
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  here
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  and
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  shouldn't
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  that
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  be
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  a
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  C
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  flat
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  or
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  whatever?
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  You
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  know,
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  I
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  was
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  going,
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  can
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  you
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  just
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  sing
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  the
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  melody
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  for
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  me?
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  And
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  then
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  she
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  would
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  sing
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  it
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  and
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  I
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  say,
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  no,
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  no,
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  it's
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  supposed
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  to
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  go,
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  you
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  know,
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  And
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  I,
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  So
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  I
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  got
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  it
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  all
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  in
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  there.
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  So
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  that's
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  where.
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  But
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  do
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  you
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  know
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  what?
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  That's
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  where
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  music
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  comes
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  from,
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  doesn't
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  it?
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  So.
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  But
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  once
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  they
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  started
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  playing,
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  oh,
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  man,
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  I
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  just,
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  I
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  stood
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  back
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  and
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  I
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  was,
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  I
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  was
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  apprehensive,
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  of
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  course,
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  because
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  I
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  thought,
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  is
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  this
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  going
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  to
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  work?
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  And
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  those
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  three
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  opening
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  chords
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  I
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  had
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  written
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  on
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  that
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  cheap
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  little
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  synthesizer
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  that
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  afternoon,
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  suddenly
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  it
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  was
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  an
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  orchestra
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  playing
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  it.
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  And
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  it
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  was
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  like.
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  It
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  was
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  like
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  having
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  the,
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  the
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  best
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  stereo
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  system
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  ever,
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  you
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  know,
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  it
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  was
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  like
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  three
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  dimensional
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  sound.
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  And
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  I
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  went,
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  wow.
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  Yeah,
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  I've
• 1:38
  pulled
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  it
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  off.
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  This
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  works.
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  So.
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  So
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  once
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  I
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  got
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  past
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  that
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  point,
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  I,
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  My
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  confidence
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  gained
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  and
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  so
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  I
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  kept.
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  Kept
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  going
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  and
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  I
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  kept
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  creating,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  I
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  got
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  it
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  all
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  finished.
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  So.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  is
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  it
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  out?
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  Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  I
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  mean,
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  it
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  was,
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  it
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  was.
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  Where
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  can
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  we
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  hear?
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  Yeah,
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  yeah,
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  yeah.
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  I
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  mean,
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  you
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  can
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  actually,
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  you
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  can.
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  If
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  you
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  go
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  to
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  my
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  website,
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  you
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  can.
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  You
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  can
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  stream
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  this
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  very
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  first
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  symphony
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  that
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  I
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  did,
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  because
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  I've
• 2:02
  done
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  many
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  other
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  since,
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  but
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  the
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  very
• 2:04
  first
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  one's
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  called
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  the
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  Divine
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  Line.
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  It's
• 2:05
  all
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  about
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  my
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  nde
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  and
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  you
• 2:07
  can
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  stream
• 2:07
  that
• 2:07
  for
• 2:07
  free
• 2:08
  if
• 2:08
  you
• 2:08
  go.
• 2:08
  My
• 2:09
  website
• 2:09
  is
• 2:10
  shineonthestory.com
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  so
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  if
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  people
• 2:12
  want
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  to
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  just
• 2:13
  go
• 2:13
  on
• 2:13
  there
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  and
• 2:13
  just.
• 2:14
  They
• 2:14
  can
• 2:14
  listen
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  to
• 2:15
  it
• 2:15
  there.
• 2:15
  So
• 2:16
  please
• 2:16
  do.
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  Yeah,
• 2:17
  but,
• 2:18
  yeah,
• 2:19
  in
• 2:19
  total
• 2:19
  Now.
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  Oh,
• 2:22
  well,
• 2:22
  I've.
• 2:23
  I've
• 2:23
  done
• 2:23
  quite
• 2:23
  a
• 2:23
  few.
• 2:24
  I'm
• 2:24
  actually.
• 2:24
  That's
• 2:25
  going
• 2:25
  to
• 2:25
  be
• 2:25
  the
• 2:25
  next
• 2:25
  stage.
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  I'm
• 2:26
  going
• 2:26
  to
• 2:26
  put
• 2:27
  an
• 2:27
  album
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  out
• 2:28
  now,
• 2:28
  like
• 2:28
  a
• 2:28
  CD
• 2:29
  with
• 2:29
  a
• 2:29
  compilation
• 2:30
  of
• 2:30
  different
• 2:30
  pieces
• 2:31
  that
• 2:31
  I've
• 2:31
  written.
• 2:31
  They've
• 2:32
  not
• 2:32
  all
• 2:32
  been
• 2:32
  symphonies.
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  There's
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  a
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  bit.
• 2:33
  There's
• 2:33
  been.
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  There's
• 2:34
  been.
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  There
• 2:35
  have
• 2:35
  been
• 2:35
  quite
• 2:35
  a
• 2:35
  few
• 2:36
  symphonies.
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  But
• 2:36
  I
• 2:37
  was.
• 2:37
  I
• 2:38
  was
• 2:38
  asked
• 2:38
  by
• 2:39
  a
• 2:39
  clarinet
• 2:40
  choir
• 2:40
  to
• 2:41
  write
• 2:41
  a
• 2:41
  piece
• 2:41
  for
• 2:42
  them.
• 2:42
  I
• 2:42
  never
• 2:42
  heard
• 2:42
  of
• 2:43
  one
• 2:43
  of
• 2:43
  those
• 2:44
  before.
• 2:44
  And
• 2:44
  so
• 2:44
  that
• 2:44
  was
• 2:45
  new
• 2:45
  to
• 2:45
  me,
• 2:45
  but
• 2:46
  it
• 2:46
  worked.
• 2:46
  You
• 2:46
  know,
• 2:46
  I
• 2:47
  walked
• 2:47
  into
• 2:47
  this
• 2:47
  room
• 2:48
  and
• 2:48
  There
• 2:48
  was
• 2:48
  like
• 2:48
  10
• 2:49
  guys
• 2:49
  and
• 2:49
  they
• 2:49
  got
• 2:49
  clarinets.
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  You
• 2:52
  wouldn't
• 2:52
  believe
• 2:52
  the
• 2:52
  size
• 2:53
  of
• 2:53
  them
• 2:53
  unless
• 2:53
  you've
• 2:54
  seen
• 2:54
  them.
• 2:54
  But,
• 2:54
  you
• 2:54
  know,
• 2:54
  like
• 2:55
  a
• 2:55
  bass
• 2:55
  clarinet,
• 2:55
  it's
• 2:55
  about.
• 2:56
  You
• 2:56
  know,
• 2:56
  it's
• 2:56
  about
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  2
• 2:57
  meters
• 2:57
  in
• 2:57
  length.
• 2:58
  And
• 2:58
  it's
• 2:58
  like.
• 2:58
  When
• 2:59
  you
• 2:59
  play
• 2:59
  it,
• 2:59
  it
• 2:59
  sounds
• 3:00
  like
• 3:00
  an
• 3:00
  ocean
• 3:00
  liner
• 3:01
  pulling
• 3:01
  into
• 3:01
  the.
• 3:02
  To
• 3:02
  the
• 3:02
  bay,
• 3:02
  you
• 3:02
  know,
• 3:03
  it's
• 3:03
  kind
• 3:03
  of
• 3:03
  like,
• 3:03
  wow.
• 3:04
  So
• 3:04
  I
• 3:05
  wrote
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  piece
• 3:05
  for
• 3:05
  them
• 3:06
  and
• 3:06
  that
• 3:06
  came
• 3:07
  and
• 3:07
  that
• 3:07
  happened,
• 3:07
  you
• 3:08
  know.
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  mean,
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  use,
• 3:09
  you
• 3:09
  know,
• 3:10
  simulated
• 3:10
  sounds
• 3:10
  when
• 3:11
  I'm
• 3:11
  doing
• 3:11
  it
• 3:11
  now.
• 3:11
  You
• 3:11
  know,
• 3:11
  I've
• 3:12
  got,
• 3:12
  like,
• 3:12
  synthesizers
• 3:13
  and
• 3:13
  I'll
• 3:13
  say,
• 3:13
  I
• 3:13
  think,
• 3:13
  okay,
• 3:14
  I'll
• 3:14
  find
• 3:14
  a
• 3:14
  clarinet
• 3:15
  sound
• 3:15
  on
• 3:15
  there.
• 3:16
  So
• 3:16
  I.
• 3:17
  That's.
• 3:17
  But
• 3:17
  that's
• 3:17
  all
• 3:17
  I've
• 3:18
  got
• 3:18
  again,
• 3:19
  you
• 3:19
  know,
• 3:19
  I'm
• 3:20
  not.
• 3:51
  I'm
• 3:51
  not
• 3:52
  using
• 3:52
  music,
• 3:53
  but
• 3:53
  it
• 3:53
  works.
• 3:54
  So,
• 3:55
  yeah,
• 3:55
  so
• 3:55
  that's.
• 3:56
  That's.
• 3:56
  The
• 3:56
  next
• 3:56
  stage
• 3:56
  is
• 3:57
  to.
• 3:57
  Is
• 3:57
  to
• 3:57
  put
• 3:57
  out
• 3:57
  a
• 3:57
  compilation.
• 3:58
  So.
• 3:58
  Because
• 3:59
  there's
• 3:59
  quite
• 3:59
  a
• 3:59
  variation
• 4:00
  of
• 4:00
  my
• 4:00
  work
• 4:00
  as
• 4:00
  well,
• 4:00
  I've
• 4:00
  done
• 4:01
  other
• 4:01
  bits
• 4:01
  where.
• 4:02
  Where
• 4:02
  it's
• 4:02
  very
• 4:02
  chilled
• 4:03
  music
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  it's
• 4:03
  just.
• 4:03
  I've
• 4:04
  used
• 4:04
  electronic
• 4:05
  sounds
• 4:05
  as
• 4:05
  well,
• 4:05
  like
• 4:06
  synthesizers
• 4:06
  mixed
• 4:07
  in
• 4:07
  with.
• 4:07
  With
• 4:08
  cellos
• 4:08
  and
• 4:08
  strings
• 4:09
  and,
• 4:09
  you
• 4:09
  know,
• 4:09
  just
• 4:09
  trying
• 4:10
  to
• 4:10
  combine
• 4:10
  different
• 4:11
  textures.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:13
  you're
• 4:13
  still
• 4:14
  staying
• 4:14
  away
• 4:14
  from,
• 4:15
  as
• 4:15
  you
• 4:15
  said,
• 4:15
  intellectualizing
• 4:16
  it.
• 4:16
  You're
• 4:17
  just
• 4:17
  doing
• 4:17
  it
• 4:17
  by
• 4:17
  feel.
• 4:18
  Yeah,
• 4:18
  totally.
• 4:18
  Yeah.
• 4:19
  Because
• 4:20
  to
• 4:20
  me,
• 4:20
  you
• 4:21
  know,
• 4:21
  that's.
• 4:21
  That's
• 4:21
  what
• 4:22
  music
• 4:22
  is,
• 4:22
  you
• 4:23
  know.
• 4:23
  You
• 4:24
  know,
• 4:24
  it's
• 4:24
  just.
• 4:24
  That's
• 4:25
  what
• 4:25
  I've
• 4:25
  always
• 4:25
  grown
• 4:25
  up
• 4:26
  on.
• 4:26
  You
• 4:26
  know,
• 4:26
  it's
• 4:26
  like
• 4:26
  when
• 4:26
  I
• 4:26
  was
• 4:27
  listening
• 4:27
  to
• 4:27
  music
• 4:28
  before,
• 4:28
  when
• 4:29
  I
• 4:29
  look
• 4:29
  back
• 4:29
  on
• 4:29
  all
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  stuff
• 4:30
  that
• 4:31
  I've
• 4:31
  always
• 4:31
  liked,
• 4:32
  it's
• 4:32
  always
• 4:32
  been
• 4:32
  about
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  feel.
• 4:33
  It's
• 4:34
  always
• 4:34
  been
• 4:34
  about
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  groove
• 4:36
  or
• 4:36
  so.
• 4:37
  Or,
• 4:37
  you
• 4:38
  know,
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  stuff
• 4:39
  that
• 4:39
  really
• 4:39
  hits
• 4:39
  your
• 4:39
  heart,
• 4:40
  you
• 4:40
  know,
• 4:40
  like,
• 4:40
  sort
• 4:40
  of,
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  know,
• 4:41
  like,
• 4:42
  rather
• 4:43
  than
• 4:43
  stuff
• 4:43
  that's
• 4:43
  just
• 4:44
  kind
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  like
• 4:44
  just
• 4:44
  goes
• 4:45
  over
• 4:45
  your
• 4:45
  head.
• 4:46
  So,
• 4:46
  yeah,
• 4:46
  so
• 4:47
  for
• 4:47
  me,
• 4:47
  music's
• 4:48
  just
• 4:48
  gotta.
• 4:48
  It's
• 4:48
  got
• 4:49
  to
• 4:49
  Move
• 4:49
  you,
• 4:49
  hasn't
• 4:49
  it?
• 4:49
  So,
• 4:50
  so
• 4:51
  that's,
• 4:52
  that's
• 4:52
  what
• 4:52
  I
• 4:53
  try
• 4:53
  to
• 4:53
  get
• 4:53
  out
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  it.
• 4:55
  Incredible.
• 4:56
  And
• 4:57
  do
• 4:57
  you,
• 4:58
  do
• 4:58
  you
• 4:58
  work
• 4:58
  with
• 5:00
  something
• 5:00
  like
• 5:00
  a
• 5:01
  ghostwriter?
• 5:01
  Like,
• 5:02
  do
• 5:02
  you
• 5:02
  have
• 5:02
  somebody
• 5:02
  that
• 5:03
  you,
• 5:03
  you
• 5:05
  tend
• 5:05
  to
• 5:05
  work
• 5:05
  with
• 5:06
  when
• 5:06
  it
• 5:06
  comes
• 5:06
  to
• 5:07
  putting
• 5:07
  it
• 5:07
  down
• 5:07
  on
• 5:07
  paper,
• 5:08
  or
• 5:10
  have
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  figured
• 5:10
  out
• 5:10
  how
• 5:11
  to
• 5:11
  do
• 5:11
  that?
• 5:11
  I've
• 5:12
  learned
• 5:12
  quite
• 5:12
  a
• 5:12
  bit
• 5:12
  now
• 5:12
  how
• 5:13
  to
• 5:13
  do
• 5:13
  it,
• 5:13
  yeah.
• 5:14
  Because
• 5:16
  the,
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  package
• 5:17
  that
• 5:17
  my
• 5:17
  brother
• 5:17
  gave
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  me,
• 5:18
  he,
• 5:19
  we
• 5:19
  then
• 5:20
  learned
• 5:20
  you
• 5:20
  could
• 5:20
  get
• 5:20
  an
• 5:20
  advanced
• 5:21
  stage.
• 5:21
  You
• 5:21
  know,
• 5:21
  I,
• 5:22
  I
• 5:22
  use
• 5:22
  this
• 5:23
  thing
• 5:23
  called
• 5:24
  finale
• 5:24
  print
• 5:25
  music.
• 5:25
  And
• 5:26
  so,
• 5:26
  but
• 5:26
  I've
• 5:27
  learned,
• 5:27
  yeah,
• 5:27
  so
• 5:27
  I
• 5:28
  learned,
• 5:28
  I've
• 5:28
  learned
• 5:29
  things
• 5:29
  like
• 5:29
  how
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  sustain
• 5:31
  a
• 5:31
  note
• 5:31
  or
• 5:32
  what
• 5:32
  have
• 5:32
  you,
• 5:32
  or
• 5:32
  make
• 5:32
  it
• 5:33
  and
• 5:33
  different
• 5:33
  things.
• 5:34
  But
• 5:34
  my
• 5:34
  brother,
• 5:36
  he's,
• 5:37
  he's
• 5:37
  classically
• 5:37
  trained,
• 5:38
  so
• 5:38
  he's
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  one
• 5:39
  that,
• 5:39
  yeah,
• 5:39
  I
• 5:39
  go
• 5:40
  to,
• 5:40
  but
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  literally
• 5:42
  do
• 5:42
  it.
• 5:42
  I
• 5:42
  try
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  leave
• 5:43
  him
• 5:43
  out
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  equation
• 5:44
  right
• 5:45
  until
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  very
• 5:45
  end,
• 5:46
  you
• 5:46
  know,
• 5:46
  because
• 5:46
  otherwise
• 5:47
  it
• 5:47
  gets
• 5:47
  complicated
• 5:48
  then
• 5:48
  because
• 5:48
  he
• 5:48
  might
• 5:48
  turn
• 5:48
  around
• 5:49
  and
• 5:49
  say,
• 5:49
  well,
• 5:49
  actually
• 5:50
  I
• 5:50
  don't
• 5:50
  think
• 5:50
  that,
• 5:50
  you
• 5:51
  know,
• 5:51
  trombones
• 5:52
  would
• 5:52
  be
• 5:52
  playing
• 5:52
  that
• 5:52
  part.
• 5:53
  I
• 5:53
  think
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  find
• 5:53
  that,
• 5:54
  you
• 5:54
  know,
• 5:54
  cellos
• 5:54
  would
• 5:55
  always
• 5:55
  go,
• 5:55
  no,
• 5:55
  no,
• 5:55
  no,
• 5:55
  no,
• 5:56
  just
• 5:56
  do
• 5:56
  it.
• 5:56
  Let's
• 5:56
  just
• 5:57
  try
• 5:57
  it.
• 5:57
  You
• 5:57
  know,
• 5:58
  and
• 5:58
  it's
• 5:58
  great
• 5:59
  because
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  see
• 5:59
  different
• 5:59
  documentaries
• 6:00
  now.
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  watch
• 6:01
  documentaries
• 6:01
  on
• 6:01
  different
• 6:02
  people
• 6:02
  and
• 6:02
  different,
• 6:03
  you
• 6:03
  know,
• 6:03
  music
• 6:04
  programs.
• 6:05
  And
• 6:05
  that's
• 6:05
  where
• 6:06
  people
• 6:06
  try
• 6:07
  and,
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  know,
• 6:08
  they
• 6:08
  break
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  rules.
• 6:08
  They'll
• 6:09
  say
• 6:09
  kind
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  like,
• 6:09
  you
• 6:10
  know,
• 6:10
  I'm
• 6:10
  gonna
• 6:11
  get,
• 6:11
  you
• 6:12
  know,
• 6:12
  whatever,
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  know,
• 6:13
  just,
• 6:14
  you
• 6:14
  know,
• 6:14
  you,
• 6:14
  you've
• 6:15
  got
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  break
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  rules.
• 6:15
  Sometimes
• 6:16
  with
• 6:16
  music
• 6:16
  you
• 6:16
  can't
• 6:16
  just
• 6:17
  go
• 6:17
  along
• 6:17
  with
• 6:18
  what's
• 6:18
  there.
• 6:18
  But,
• 6:18
  yeah,
• 6:19
  but
• 6:19
  going
• 6:19
  back
• 6:19
  to
• 6:19
  what
• 6:20
  he's
• 6:20
  saying,
• 6:20
  my
• 6:20
  brother,
• 6:20
  he's
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  final
• 6:21
  one,
• 6:21
  he's
• 6:21
  the
• 6:22
  one
• 6:22
  who'll
• 6:22
  just,
• 6:22
  he'll
• 6:23
  get
• 6:23
  it
• 6:23
  so
• 6:24
  that
• 6:24
  it's,
• 6:24
  it's,
• 6:25
  it's
• 6:25
  completely
• 6:25
  acceptable
• 6:26
  for
• 6:27
  every
• 6:27
  single
• 6:27
  person
• 6:27
  in
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  orchestra
• 6:28
  to
• 6:28
  be
• 6:28
  able
• 6:29
  to
• 6:29
  understand
• 6:29
  what's
• 6:29
  going
• 6:30
  on,
• 6:30
  you
• 6:30
  know,
• 6:30
  so
• 6:30
  he
• 6:31
  knows.
• 6:31
  Yeah.
• 6:32
  The
• 6:32
  DNA
• 6:33
  project
• 6:33
  is
• 6:33
  your
• 6:34
  one
• 6:34
  stop
• 6:34
  shop
• 6:34
  for
• 6:35
  all
• 6:35
  of
• 6:35
  your
• 6:35
  live
• 6:36
  entertainment
• 6:36
  needs.
• 6:37
  Anything
• 6:37
  from
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  corporate
• 6:38
  gala,
• 6:38
  large
• 6:39
  or
• 6:39
  small,
• 6:39
  weddings,
• 6:40
  recording
• 6:40
  sessions,
• 6:41
  or
• 6:41
  just
• 6:41
  a
• 6:41
  guitar
• 6:42
  serenade
• 6:42
  for
• 6:42
  a
• 6:42
  loved
• 6:43
  one.
• 6:43
  They
• 6:43
  got
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  covered.
• 6:44
  They'll
• 6:44
  make
• 6:44
  the
• 6:45
  process
• 6:45
  so
• 6:45
  easy
• 6:46
  from
• 6:46
  start
• 6:46
  to
• 6:46
  finish.
• 6:46
  They
• 6:47
  really
• 6:47
  will
• 6:47
  take
• 6:47
  away
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  stress
• 6:48
  of
• 6:49
  planning
• 6:49
  any
• 6:49
  kind
• 6:49
  of
• 6:49
  live
• 6:50
  music
• 6:50
  event.
• 6:51
  Check
• 6:51
  them
• 6:51
  out
• 6:52
  before
• 6:52
  your
• 6:52
  next
• 6:52
  event
• 6:53
  online@thednaproject.ca.
• 6:56
  What
• 6:57
  year
• 6:57
  was
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  first
• 6:58
  concert
• 6:59
  of
• 6:59
  one
• 6:59
  of
• 6:59
  your
• 7:00
  original
• 7:00
  symphonies?
• 7:01
  Do
• 7:01
  you
• 7:01
  remember
• 7:01
  how
• 7:01
  long
• 7:01
  ago
• 7:02
  it
• 7:02
  was?
• 7:03
  Yeah,
• 7:03
  yeah,
• 7:03
  it
• 7:03
  was,
• 7:03
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• 7:04
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• 7:04
  2008,
• 7:05
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• 7:06
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• 7:06
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• 7:06
  came
• 7:06
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• 7:06
  Yeah,
• 7:07
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• 7:07
  what
• 7:08
  was
• 7:08
  that
• 7:08
  feeling
• 7:08
  like
• 7:09
  when
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  were
• 7:09
  finally
• 7:09
  able
• 7:10
  to,
• 7:10
  you
• 7:11
  know,
• 7:11
  hear
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  concert
• 7:12
  and
• 7:12
  be
• 7:12
  part
• 7:12
  of
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  audience
• 7:14
  and
• 7:14
  watch
• 7:15
  them
• 7:15
  actually
• 7:15
  receive
• 7:16
  your
• 7:16
  work?
• 7:16
  That
• 7:16
  must
• 7:17
  have
• 7:17
  been
• 7:17
  overwhelming.
• 7:17
  Yeah,
• 7:18
  it
• 7:18
  was,
• 7:19
  it
• 7:19
  was,
• 7:19
  it
• 7:19
  was
• 7:19
  interesting
• 7:20
  actually,
• 7:20
  because
• 7:21
  like
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  said
• 7:21
  before,
• 7:22
  you
• 7:22
  know,
• 7:22
  I'd
• 7:22
  never
• 7:23
  been
• 7:23
  successful
• 7:24
  playing
• 7:24
  guitar,
• 7:24
  but,
• 7:25
  you
• 7:25
  know,
• 7:26
  it
• 7:26
  would
• 7:26
  always
• 7:26
  been
• 7:26
  like
• 7:27
  playing
• 7:27
  to
• 7:27
  an
• 7:27
  audience
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  two
• 7:28
  men
• 7:28
  and
• 7:28
  a
• 7:28
  dog
• 7:29
  or
• 7:29
  whatever,
• 7:29
  so.
• 7:30
  Which
• 7:30
  is
• 7:31
  quite
• 7:31
  nerve
• 7:31
  wracking,
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  know,
• 7:32
  because
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  just
• 7:33
  stood
• 7:33
  there
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  you're
• 7:33
  just
• 7:33
  playing
• 7:34
  your
• 7:34
  guitar
• 7:34
  and
• 7:34
  you're
• 7:34
  thinking,
• 7:35
  how
• 7:35
  am
• 7:35
  I
• 7:36
  going
• 7:36
  down?
• 7:36
  How
• 7:36
  are
• 7:36
  they
• 7:36
  going
• 7:37
  to
• 7:37
  like
• 7:37
  this
• 7:37
  song?
• 7:37
  And
• 7:37
  how
• 7:38
  are
• 7:38
  they
• 7:38
  going
• 7:38
  to
• 7:38
  report
• 7:39
  at
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  end
• 7:39
  of
• 7:39
  this
• 7:39
  one,
• 7:39
  you
• 7:39
  know,
• 7:40
  Whereas
• 7:41
  when
• 7:41
  you're
• 7:41
  actually
• 7:42
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• 7:42
  in
• 7:42
  the
• 7:42
  audience
• 7:43
  listening
• 7:43
  to,
• 7:44
  leaving
• 7:44
  it
• 7:44
  to
• 7:44
  the
• 7:45
  orchestra
• 7:45
  and
• 7:45
  leaving
• 7:45
  it
• 7:46
  in
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  hands
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  conductor
• 7:47
  to
• 7:47
  sort
• 7:47
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• 7:48
  take
• 7:48
  it
• 7:48
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• 7:49
  it's
• 7:49
  great.
• 7:50
  Obviously
• 7:50
  I
• 7:50
  was
• 7:51
  kind
• 7:51
  of
• 7:51
  slightly
• 7:51
  apprehensive
• 7:52
  and
• 7:52
  nervous
• 7:52
  because
• 7:52
  it's.
• 7:53
  It's
• 7:53
  my
• 7:53
  baby,
• 7:53
  you
• 7:54
  know,
• 7:54
  but
• 7:54
  yeah,
• 7:54
  I
• 7:55
  really
• 7:55
  enjoyed
• 7:55
  it.
• 7:55
  I
• 7:56
  absolutely
• 7:56
  enjoyed
• 7:57
  it.
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  mean,
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  concert
• 7:58
  sold
• 7:58
  out.
• 7:58
  This
• 7:59
  is
• 7:59
  incredible
• 7:59
  because
• 8:00
  I'd
• 8:01
  basically,
• 8:02
  they
• 8:02
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• 8:02
  to
• 8:02
  me,
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  guys
• 8:04
  in
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  orchestra
• 8:04
  said,
• 8:04
  oh,
• 8:05
  do
• 8:05
  you
• 8:05
  mind
• 8:05
  just
• 8:05
  saying
• 8:05
  a
• 8:05
  few
• 8:06
  words
• 8:06
  to
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  local
• 8:07
  press
• 8:07
  just
• 8:08
  because
• 8:08
  you've
• 8:08
  written
• 8:08
  a
• 8:08
  piece?
• 8:08
  And
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  said,
• 8:09
  sure.
• 8:10
  So
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  did
• 8:10
  speak
• 8:11
  to
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  local
• 8:11
  press
• 8:11
  and
• 8:12
  they
• 8:12
  said,
• 8:12
  hey,
• 8:12
  hang
• 8:12
  on
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  sec,
• 8:13
  I
• 8:13
  knew
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  guy
• 8:13
  who
• 8:13
  went
• 8:13
  under
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  train.
• 8:14
  And
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  said,
• 8:15
  yeah.
• 8:15
  They
• 8:15
  said,
• 8:15
  wow,
• 8:16
  this
• 8:16
  is
• 8:16
  a
• 8:16
  brilliant
• 8:17
  story.
• 8:17
  It's
• 8:17
  going
• 8:17
  on
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  front
• 8:18
  page,
• 8:18
  you
• 8:18
  know,
• 8:19
  so
• 8:19
  from
• 8:19
  then,
• 8:19
  you
• 8:20
  know,
• 8:20
  the
• 8:20
  phone
• 8:20
  kept
• 8:20
  ringing
• 8:21
  and
• 8:21
  then
• 8:21
  the
• 8:22
  BBC
• 8:22
  wanted
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  come
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  interview
• 8:23
  me.
• 8:23
  And
• 8:23
  so
• 8:24
  they
• 8:24
  came
• 8:24
  down
• 8:24
  to
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  rehearsal
• 8:25
  and
• 8:26
  they
• 8:26
  filmed
• 8:26
  me.
• 8:27
  Which
• 8:27
  is
• 8:27
  really
• 8:27
  interesting
• 8:28
  because
• 8:28
  this
• 8:29
  is
• 8:29
  orchestras.
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  mean,
• 8:31
  they're
• 8:31
  a
• 8:32
  different
• 8:32
  breed
• 8:32
  in
• 8:32
  terms
• 8:32
  of
• 8:33
  musicians.
• 8:33
  It's
• 8:33
  like
• 8:34
  when
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  emailed
• 8:35
  them
• 8:35
  to
• 8:35
  ask
• 8:35
  if
• 8:36
  that
• 8:36
  was
• 8:36
  okay,
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  thought
• 8:37
  they
• 8:37
  would
• 8:37
  be,
• 8:37
  yeah,
• 8:37
  yeah,
• 8:38
  cool.
• 8:38
  You
• 8:38
  know,
• 8:38
  but
• 8:39
  they
• 8:39
  were
• 8:39
  kind
• 8:39
  of
• 8:39
  going,
• 8:40
  well,
• 8:40
  you
• 8:40
  know,
• 8:41
  it
• 8:41
  might
• 8:41
  interrupt
• 8:42
  the,
• 8:42
  the,
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  know,
• 8:43
  our
• 8:44
  rehearsal
• 8:44
  time
• 8:44
  and
• 8:44
  stuff
• 8:45
  like
• 8:45
  that.
• 8:45
  They
• 8:45
  were
• 8:45
  kind
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  like
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  few
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  them
• 8:47
  were
• 8:47
  reluctant,
• 8:47
  which
• 8:48
  is
• 8:48
  lovely.
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  love
• 8:48
  the
• 8:49
  fact
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  they
• 8:49
  didn't
• 8:50
  care,
• 8:50
  you
• 8:50
  know,
• 8:50
  but
• 8:51
  the
• 8:51
  fact
• 8:51
  that
• 8:52
  they
• 8:52
  did
• 8:52
  come
• 8:52
  down
• 8:52
  the
• 8:53
  BBC,
• 8:53
  then
• 8:53
  it
• 8:53
  went
• 8:54
  on
• 8:54
  the
• 8:54
  TV
• 8:54
  and
• 8:54
  then
• 8:54
  it
• 8:54
  sold
• 8:55
  out
• 8:55
  two
• 8:55
  weeks
• 8:55
  in
• 8:55
  advance.
• 8:56
  So
• 8:56
  the
• 8:57
  atmosphere
• 8:57
  was
• 8:57
  electric
• 8:58
  that
• 8:58
  night.
• 8:58
  It
• 8:58
  was
• 8:59
  incredible.
• 8:59
  Yeah.
• 8:59
  Imagine
• 9:00
  that
• 9:00
  sounds.
• 9:01
  That
• 9:01
  sounds
• 9:01
  incredible.
• 9:02
  Yeah.
• 9:02
  Do
• 9:03
  you
• 9:03
  believe
• 9:03
  in
• 9:03
  destiny?
• 9:05
  Yeah,
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  do,
• 9:06
  actually.
• 9:06
  Yeah,
• 9:07
  I
• 9:08
  do
• 9:08
  now.
• 9:08
  I
• 9:09
  believe
• 9:09
  that.
• 9:10
  I
• 9:11
  believe
• 9:11
  that
• 9:13
  our
• 9:13
  lives
• 9:14
  are
• 9:14
  kind
• 9:14
  of
• 9:15
  like
• 9:15
  almost
• 9:15
  like
• 9:15
  a
• 9:16
  highway
• 9:16
  that
• 9:16
  are
• 9:17
  set
• 9:17
  out
• 9:17
  in
• 9:17
  front
• 9:17
  of
• 9:17
  us
• 9:18
  and
• 9:18
  we
• 9:19
  don't
• 9:19
  Always
• 9:19
  follow
• 9:19
  that
• 9:20
  route.
• 9:21
  I
• 9:21
  certainly
• 9:21
  didn't.
• 9:22
  You
• 9:22
  know,
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  was.
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  was
• 9:23
  constantly
• 9:23
  being
• 9:24
  tempted
• 9:24
  by
• 9:25
  shortcuts.
• 9:25
  I
• 9:26
  go,
• 9:26
  oh,
• 9:26
  I'm
• 9:26
  going
• 9:26
  to
• 9:26
  take
• 9:26
  that
• 9:26
  road
• 9:27
  that's
• 9:27
  going
• 9:27
  to.
• 9:27
  That's
• 9:27
  going
• 9:27
  to
• 9:28
  lead
• 9:28
  me
• 9:28
  to
• 9:28
  happiness
• 9:29
  and
• 9:29
  success.
• 9:30
  And
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  ended
• 9:30
  up
• 9:30
  going
• 9:31
  down
• 9:31
  that
• 9:31
  road.
• 9:31
  And
• 9:31
  it
• 9:31
  wasn't
• 9:32
  the
• 9:32
  road
• 9:32
  for
• 9:32
  me
• 9:32
  then
• 9:33
  I'd
• 9:33
  end
• 9:33
  up
• 9:33
  back
• 9:33
  on
• 9:33
  the
• 9:34
  highway
• 9:34
  again.
• 9:34
  So
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  kind
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  see
• 9:35
  it
• 9:35
  like
• 9:36
  that.
• 9:36
  And.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:38
  so
• 9:38
  now
• 9:38
  I
• 9:39
  kind
• 9:39
  of
• 9:39
  like
• 9:39
  realize
• 9:40
  that
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  highway
• 9:41
  that
• 9:41
  I'm
• 9:41
  on
• 9:41
  is
• 9:41
  the
• 9:42
  one
• 9:42
  that's
• 9:42
  meant
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  be
• 9:42
  for
• 9:43
  me.
• 9:43
  It's,
• 9:44
  you
• 9:44
  know,
• 9:44
  it's
• 9:44
  kind
• 9:44
  of
• 9:45
  like
• 9:45
  it's.
• 9:45
  It's
• 9:46
  my
• 9:46
  soul
• 9:46
  path.
• 9:47
  That's
• 9:47
  why
• 9:47
  that's
• 9:47
  probably
• 9:48
  the
• 9:48
  best
• 9:48
  way
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  call
• 9:48
  it,
• 9:48
  rather
• 9:48
  than
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  highway.
• 9:49
  It's
• 9:49
  my
• 9:49
  soul
• 9:50
  path.
• 9:50
  And
• 9:50
  I
• 9:50
  think
• 9:50
  that
• 9:50
  we've
• 9:51
  all
• 9:51
  got
• 9:51
  our
• 9:51
  own
• 9:51
  soul
• 9:52
  paths.
• 9:53
  I
• 9:54
  totally
• 9:54
  agree,
• 9:55
  and
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  think
• 9:55
  that
• 9:56
  analogy
• 9:56
  is
• 9:56
  incredible
• 9:57
  because
• 9:58
  I
• 9:58
  definitely
• 9:59
  can
• 9:59
  see
• 9:59
  parallels
• 10:00
  in
• 10:00
  getting
• 10:01
  off
• 10:01
  of
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  highway
• 10:02
  and
• 10:03
  whatever
• 10:03
  powers
• 10:04
  that
• 10:04
  be
• 10:04
  forcing
• 10:05
  me
• 10:05
  back
• 10:05
  onto
• 10:06
  that
• 10:07
  soul
• 10:07
  path,
• 10:07
  you
• 10:07
  know,
• 10:08
  so
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  can
• 10:08
  definitely,
• 10:09
  definitely
• 10:09
  relate.
• 10:09
  That's
• 10:10
  incredible.
• 10:12
  Brilliant.
• 10:13
  How
• 10:13
  did
• 10:13
  you
• 10:14
  overcome
• 10:14
  some
• 10:14
  of
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  feelings
• 10:15
  and
• 10:15
  thoughts
• 10:16
  I'm
• 10:16
  sure
• 10:16
  would
• 10:16
  have
• 10:16
  been
• 10:17
  completely
• 10:18
  overwhelming,
• 10:19
  especially
• 10:19
  dealing
• 10:20
  with
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  orchestra.
• 10:21
  You
• 10:21
  mentioned
• 10:21
  them
• 10:21
  being
• 10:22
  a
• 10:22
  different
• 10:22
  breed
• 10:23
  altogether,
• 10:24
  knowing
• 10:24
  that
• 10:25
  you
• 10:25
  weren't,
• 10:26
  you
• 10:26
  know,
• 10:26
  quote,
• 10:26
  unquote,
• 10:27
  one
• 10:27
  of
• 10:27
  them.
• 10:28
  You
• 10:29
  didn't
• 10:29
  probably.
• 10:30
  You
• 10:30
  probably
• 10:30
  weren't
• 10:30
  able
• 10:31
  to
• 10:31
  speak
• 10:31
  in
• 10:32
  musical
• 10:32
  terms
• 10:33
  in
• 10:33
  a
• 10:33
  way
• 10:33
  that
• 10:33
  they
• 10:34
  would
• 10:34
  understand.
• 10:35
  How
• 10:35
  did
• 10:35
  you
• 10:36
  convince
• 10:36
  yourself
• 10:37
  or
• 10:37
  tell
• 10:38
  yourself
• 10:38
  to
• 10:38
  keep
• 10:38
  on
• 10:39
  going
• 10:39
  with
• 10:39
  these
• 10:40
  ideas
• 10:40
  that
• 10:40
  you
• 10:41
  had
• 10:41
  and
• 10:42
  making
• 10:42
  sure
• 10:42
  that
• 10:43
  you
• 10:43
  could
• 10:43
  see
• 10:43
  them
• 10:43
  through
• 10:44
  to
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  end?
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  never
• 10:46
  lost
• 10:47
  faith
• 10:48
  just
• 10:49
  because
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  believe
• 10:50
  that
• 10:50
  this
• 10:50
  was
• 10:50
  all
• 10:50
  meant
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  unfold,
• 10:51
  it
• 10:51
  was
• 10:51
  all
• 10:52
  meant
• 10:52
  to
• 10:52
  happen,
• 10:52
  that
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  music
• 10:53
  was
• 10:53
  meant
• 10:53
  to
• 10:53
  get
• 10:54
  out
• 10:54
  there.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:55
  so
• 10:55
  I
• 10:56
  didn't
• 10:56
  really
• 10:56
  fear
• 10:57
  it.
• 10:57
  Yeah,
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  course,
• 10:58
  you
• 10:58
  know,
• 10:58
  I'm
• 10:58
  only
• 10:59
  human.
• 10:59
  There
• 10:59
  were
• 10:59
  times,
• 11:00
  you
• 11:00
  know,
• 11:01
  I
• 11:01
  turn
• 11:01
  up
• 11:01
  to
• 11:02
  rehearsals
• 11:02
  every.
• 11:02
  Every
• 11:03
  day,
• 11:03
  and
• 11:03
  I
• 11:03
  think,
• 11:03
  oh,
• 11:04
  is
• 11:04
  this
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  one
• 11:04
  where
• 11:04
  they're
• 11:05
  going
• 11:05
  to
• 11:05
  really
• 11:05
  catch
• 11:05
  me
• 11:05
  out
• 11:06
  and
• 11:06
  say,
• 11:06
  you
• 11:07
  know,
• 11:07
  he
• 11:07
  doesn't
• 11:07
  even
• 11:07
  know
• 11:08
  what
• 11:08
  he's
• 11:08
  talking
• 11:08
  about?
• 11:08
  You
• 11:09
  know,
• 11:09
  but,
• 11:10
  you
• 11:11
  know,
• 11:11
  so
• 11:11
  many.
• 11:12
  Of
• 11:12
  course
• 11:12
  that's
• 11:12
  there.
• 11:13
  But
• 11:13
  generally
• 11:13
  speaking,
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  had
• 11:15
  faith.
• 11:15
  And
• 11:15
  I
• 11:15
  just
• 11:15
  knew
• 11:16
  that
• 11:16
  if
• 11:17
  something
• 11:17
  didn't
• 11:17
  sound
• 11:18
  right
• 11:18
  at
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  rehearsal,
• 11:19
  that
• 11:19
  I
• 11:19
  would
• 11:19
  go
• 11:20
  home
• 11:20
  and
• 11:20
  figure
• 11:20
  it
• 11:20
  out
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  then
• 11:21
  I
• 11:21
  go
• 11:21
  back
• 11:22
  and
• 11:22
  fix
• 11:22
  it
• 11:22
  and
• 11:22
  it
• 11:22
  would
• 11:22
  work.
• 11:23
  And
• 11:24
  it's.
• 11:25
  So.
• 11:25
  Yeah.
• 11:26
  Which
• 11:26
  is
• 11:26
  interesting
• 11:27
  because
• 11:27
  that's
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  complete
• 11:27
  contrast
• 11:28
  into
• 11:28
  how
• 11:29
  I
• 11:29
  was
• 11:29
  before.
• 11:29
  I
• 11:30
  never
• 11:30
  had
• 11:30
  any
• 11:30
  self
• 11:31
  sort
• 11:31
  of
• 11:32
  confidence,
• 11:32
  and
• 11:33
  so
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
  didn't
• 11:33
  believe
• 11:34
  in
• 11:34
  myself.
• 11:34
  So
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  probably
• 11:35
  would
• 11:35
  have
• 11:36
  stepped
• 11:36
  back
• 11:37
  from.
• 11:37
  From
• 11:37
  it
• 11:37
  very
• 11:38
  easily,
• 11:38
  you
• 11:38
  know,
• 11:38
  before
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  probably
• 11:39
  wouldn't
• 11:39
  have
• 11:40
  even
• 11:40
  taken
• 11:40
  that.
• 11:40
  The
• 11:41
  chance
• 11:41
  that
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  did
• 11:42
  by
• 11:42
  going
• 11:42
  to
• 11:42
  an
• 11:43
  orchestra.
• 11:43
  But
• 11:44
  it
• 11:45
  was,
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  know.
• 11:45
  Yeah.
• 11:47
  What.
• 11:48
  What
• 11:48
  comes
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  you?
• 11:48
  What
• 11:49
  are
• 11:49
  you
• 11:49
  working
• 11:49
  on
• 11:49
  now?
• 11:49
  Okay,
• 11:50
  sorry.
• 11:50
  Yeah,
• 11:50
  I
• 11:50
  guess
• 11:50
  that's
• 11:51
  a
• 11:51
  good
• 11:51
  question.
• 11:52
  Sorry,
• 11:52
  there's
• 11:52
  a
• 11:53
  delay.
• 11:53
  We
• 11:53
  sometimes
• 11:53
  talk
• 11:54
  over
• 11:54
  each
• 11:54
  other.
• 11:54
  We
• 11:54
  don't
• 11:55
  mean
• 11:55
  to.
• 11:57
  Sorry.
• 11:58
  What
• 11:58
  was.
• 11:58
  What
• 11:58
  were
• 11:58
  you
• 11:59
  saying?
• 11:59
  Which
• 11:59
  one?
• 11:59
  Which
• 12:00
  one?
• 12:00
  What
• 12:00
  are
• 12:00
  you
• 12:00
  working
• 12:00
  on?
• 12:01
  What
• 12:01
  are
• 12:01
  you
• 12:01
  working
• 12:01
  on
• 12:01
  now?
• 12:02
  Right,
• 12:03
  yeah,
• 12:03
  I'm
• 12:03
  writing
• 12:04
  on
• 12:04
  a
• 12:04
  new
• 12:04
  symphony,
• 12:04
  actually.
• 12:05
  Yeah.
• 12:06
  Which
• 12:06
  is
• 12:06
  called.
• 12:06
  I
• 12:07
  Wasn't
• 12:07
  Expecting
• 12:07
  this.
• 12:08
  So.
• 12:09
  Yeah,
• 12:09
  so
• 12:10
  that's
• 12:10
  coming
• 12:10
  along
• 12:11
  fine.
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
  mean,
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
  don't
• 12:11
  know
• 12:12
  how
• 12:12
  that's
• 12:12
  going
• 12:12
  to
• 12:12
  happen
• 12:13
  about
• 12:13
  getting
• 12:14
  it
• 12:14
  performed
• 12:15
  because,
• 12:15
  you
• 12:15
  know,
• 12:16
  orchestras
• 12:16
  are
• 12:16
  struggling
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  get
• 12:17
  together.
• 12:18
  I
• 12:19
  mean,
• 12:19
  professional
• 12:19
  orchestras
• 12:20
  are
• 12:20
  doing
• 12:20
  that
• 12:20
  over
• 12:21
  here
• 12:21
  now
• 12:21
  with
• 12:21
  social
• 12:21
  distancing.
• 12:22
  But
• 12:23
  in
• 12:23
  terms
• 12:23
  of
• 12:23
  an
• 12:24
  amateur
• 12:24
  orchestra,
• 12:24
  it's
• 12:25
  going
• 12:25
  to
• 12:25
  be
• 12:25
  tough.
• 12:25
  But
• 12:25
  what
• 12:26
  I'm
• 12:26
  figuring
• 12:26
  is
• 12:27
  I'm
• 12:27
  going
• 12:27
  to.
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  want
• 12:28
  this
• 12:28
  to
• 12:28
  be
• 12:28
  on
• 12:28
  this
• 12:28
  new
• 12:29
  album
• 12:30
  I'm
• 12:30
  putting
• 12:30
  together.
• 12:31
  So
• 12:31
  I'm
• 12:31
  going
• 12:31
  to
• 12:32
  get
• 12:32
  some
• 12:33
  studio
• 12:33
  time
• 12:33
  and
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  will
• 12:34
  get
• 12:34
  like,
• 12:34
  you
• 12:34
  know,
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  different
• 12:35
  players
• 12:35
  to
• 12:35
  come
• 12:36
  in
• 12:36
  individually
• 12:36
  and
• 12:36
  then
• 12:37
  lay
• 12:37
  down
• 12:37
  their
• 12:37
  parts
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  take
• 12:38
  it
• 12:38
  like
• 12:38
  that.
• 12:38
  So
• 12:39
  it'll
• 12:39
  be
• 12:39
  a
• 12:39
  different
• 12:39
  way
• 12:39
  of
• 12:39
  going
• 12:40
  about
• 12:40
  it.
• 12:41
  All
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  rest
• 12:42
  have
• 12:42
  been
• 12:42
  performed
• 12:43
  as
• 12:43
  a
• 12:43
  whole,
• 12:43
  you
• 12:43
  know,
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  whole
• 12:44
  orchestra
• 12:44
  together.
• 12:45
  But
• 12:45
  now
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  just
• 12:45
  have
• 12:46
  to
• 12:46
  break
• 12:46
  it
• 12:46
  down.
• 12:46
  So.
• 12:47
  Yeah,
• 12:47
  so
• 12:47
  that's.
• 12:48
  That's
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  next
• 12:48
  stage.
• 12:51
  That's
• 12:51
  incredible.
• 12:52
  You
• 12:52
  mentioned
• 12:54
  in
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  past
• 12:54
  struggling
• 12:55
  with
• 12:56
  self
• 12:56
  confidence
• 12:57
  and
• 12:57
  other
• 12:58
  internal
• 12:58
  issues.
• 13:00
  We've,
• 13:00
  of
• 13:01
  course,
• 13:01
  come
• 13:01
  back
• 13:01
  and
• 13:02
  come
• 13:02
  full
• 13:02
  circle
• 13:03
  from
• 13:03
  that
• 13:03
  feeling.
• 13:04
  It
• 13:04
  looks
• 13:04
  like,
• 13:04
  and
• 13:05
  sounds
• 13:05
  like.
• 13:06
  Can
• 13:06
  you
• 13:06
  share
• 13:07
  with
• 13:07
  our
• 13:07
  listeners
• 13:08
  who
• 13:08
  may
• 13:09
  not
• 13:09
  fully
• 13:09
  believe
• 13:09
  in
• 13:09
  themselves
• 13:10
  or
• 13:11
  lack
• 13:11
  confidence,
• 13:12
  any
• 13:12
  insight
• 13:13
  on
• 13:13
  how
• 13:13
  to
• 13:13
  overcome
• 13:14
  or,
• 13:14
  you
• 13:15
  know,
• 13:15
  just
• 13:15
  some
• 13:16
  encouraging
• 13:16
  words
• 13:16
  for
• 13:16
  them?
• 13:17
  Yeah,
• 13:17
  sure.
• 13:18
  What
• 13:19
  I'd
• 13:19
  say
• 13:19
  is
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  actually
• 13:21
  not
• 13:21
  be
• 13:21
  afraid
• 13:21
  to
• 13:22
  stop
• 13:22
  and
• 13:23
  step
• 13:24
  away
• 13:24
  from
• 13:24
  whatever
• 13:25
  environment
• 13:26
  you're
• 13:26
  in
• 13:26
  that's
• 13:27
  making
• 13:27
  life
• 13:27
  tough
• 13:28
  for
• 13:28
  you
• 13:28
  and
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  actually,
• 13:30
  you
• 13:30
  know,
• 13:30
  try
• 13:30
  and
• 13:31
  ground
• 13:31
  yourself
• 13:32
  and
• 13:33
  ask.
• 13:34
  Ask
• 13:35
  yourself
• 13:35
  the
• 13:36
  question,
• 13:36
  what
• 13:36
  is
• 13:36
  it
• 13:37
  I
• 13:37
  really
• 13:37
  want?
• 13:37
  What
• 13:38
  is
• 13:38
  the
• 13:38
  pathway
• 13:39
  that's
• 13:39
  meant
• 13:39
  for
• 13:39
  me?
• 13:39
  You
• 13:40
  know,
• 13:40
  am
• 13:40
  I
• 13:40
  actually
• 13:41
  hanging
• 13:41
  out
• 13:41
  with
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  right
• 13:42
  crowd
• 13:42
  here?
• 13:43
  Am
• 13:43
  I
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  door
• 13:44
  that
• 13:45
  I'm
• 13:45
  trying
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  bang
• 13:45
  on?
• 13:45
  They're
• 13:46
  not
• 13:46
  letting
• 13:46
  me
• 13:46
  in.
• 13:46
  Is
• 13:46
  that
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  right
• 13:47
  door
• 13:47
  for
• 13:47
  me?
• 13:47
  You
• 13:48
  know,
• 13:48
  and
• 13:48
  just
• 13:49
  try
• 13:49
  and
• 13:49
  be
• 13:49
  authentic
• 13:49
  to
• 13:50
  yourself,
• 13:50
  basically,
• 13:50
  is
• 13:51
  what
• 13:51
  I'm
• 13:51
  saying.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:52
  once
• 13:52
  you
• 13:52
  are
• 13:52
  authentic
• 13:53
  to
• 13:53
  yourself,
• 13:54
  then
• 13:54
  those.
• 13:55
  The
• 13:55
  right
• 13:55
  doors
• 13:55
  will
• 13:56
  slowly
• 13:56
  open
• 13:56
  in
• 13:56
  front
• 13:56
  of
• 13:57
  you
• 13:57
  like
• 13:58
  they
• 13:58
  did
• 13:58
  for
• 13:58
  me,
• 13:58
  you
• 13:59
  know,
• 13:59
  with
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  music
• 13:59
  and
• 13:59
  the
• 14:00
  art
• 14:00
  you
• 14:00
  know
• 14:00
  I
• 14:00
  didn't,
• 14:00
  I
• 14:01
  wasn't
• 14:01
  pushing
• 14:01
  at
• 14:01
  those
• 14:01
  doors
• 14:02
  they
• 14:02
  opened
• 14:02
  because
• 14:03
  they
• 14:03
  were
• 14:03
  meant
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  be
• 14:04
  where
• 14:04
  I
• 14:04
  was
• 14:04
  supposed
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  be
• 14:05
  going
• 14:05
  so
• 14:06
  and
• 14:06
  once
• 14:07
  you
• 14:07
  do
• 14:07
  that,
• 14:07
  you
• 14:07
  know
• 14:07
  just
• 14:08
  be
• 14:08
  patient
• 14:08
  as
• 14:08
  well
• 14:09
  you
• 14:09
  know
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  was
• 14:09
  I
• 14:10
  lacked
• 14:10
  patience
• 14:10
  before
• 14:11
  because
• 14:11
  I
• 14:11
  was
• 14:12
  trying
• 14:12
  to
• 14:12
  fix
• 14:12
  everything
• 14:13
  Just
• 14:13
  be
• 14:13
  patient
• 14:13
  and
• 14:15
  allow
• 14:15
  it
• 14:15
  to
• 14:15
  come
• 14:15
  to
• 14:16
  you
• 14:16
  and
• 14:16
  it
• 14:16
  will
• 14:17
  for
• 14:17
  all.
• 14:17
  Of
• 14:17
  us
• 14:17
  I
• 14:17
  think
• 14:19
  which
• 14:19
  one
• 14:20
  do
• 14:20
  you
• 14:20
  feel
• 14:21
  comes
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  you
• 14:21
  more
• 14:22
  art
• 14:23
  in
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  form
• 14:23
  of
• 14:23
  painting
• 14:24
  or
• 14:24
  in
• 14:25
  symphonies?
• 14:27
  They're
• 14:27
  both
• 14:28
  very
• 14:28
  much
• 14:28
  hand
• 14:28
  in
• 14:29
  hand
• 14:29
  to
• 14:29
  be
• 14:29
  honest
• 14:29
  with
• 14:29
  you
• 14:30
  and
• 14:30
  it's
• 14:30
  whatever
• 14:31
  is
• 14:31
  feeling
• 14:32
  strong
• 14:33
  the
• 14:33
  urge
• 14:34
  like
• 14:34
  for
• 14:34
  example
• 14:35
  at
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  moment
• 14:35
  it
• 14:36
  feels
• 14:36
  stronger
• 14:36
  for
• 14:36
  me
• 14:37
  to
• 14:37
  be
• 14:38
  focusing
• 14:38
  on
• 14:39
  the
• 14:39
  music
• 14:39
  at
• 14:39
  this
• 14:39
  stage
• 14:40
  and
• 14:40
  then
• 14:40
  I'll
• 14:41
  know
• 14:41
  that
• 14:41
  I'll
• 14:42
  suddenly
• 14:42
  think
• 14:42
  oh
• 14:42
  no,
• 14:43
  I've
• 14:43
  got
• 14:43
  to
• 14:43
  paint
• 14:43
  I've
• 14:43
  got
• 14:44
  to
• 14:44
  do
• 14:44
  a
• 14:44
  painting
• 14:45
  and
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  know
• 14:46
  it
• 14:46
  just
• 14:46
  comes
• 14:47
  I
• 14:47
  don't
• 14:47
  really
• 14:47
  plan
• 14:48
  it
• 14:48
  out
• 14:49
  no.