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- 0:00Speaker 1: President Trump, no surprise taking this to the Supreme Court.
- 0:03Speaker 1: Is this something you expect them to take up? And
- 0:07Speaker 1: what would you expect them to think of something like this,
- 0:09Speaker 1: because it seems kind of cut and dry.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's start with your first question. Is
- 0:15Speaker 2: this something that I expect the court to take up?
- 0:18Speaker 2: Possibly not necessarily, but very well, possibly in part because
- 0:23Speaker 2: this is a court that oftentimes will take up the
- 0:26Speaker 2: president's quote unquote.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Emergency requests for its intervention.
- 0:29Speaker 2: And here what he's asking for, what he will be
- 0:33Speaker 2: asking for is a stay of an injunction by a
- 0:36Speaker 2: lower court that prohibits them from doing any further above
- 0:40Speaker 2: ground construction while this litigation continues. And so in order
- 0:44Speaker 2: to be able to resume the construction at least above ground,
- 0:48Speaker 2: this president needs that permission of this Supreme Court, and
- 0:51Speaker 2: knowing that they may be hard pressed to turn down
- 0:54Speaker 2: an opportunity to clarify what they mean.
- 0:57Speaker 3: On the other hand, will this necessarily go his way?
- 0:59Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't think so. And that's because the
- 1:02Speaker 3: President took it.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Upon himself unilaterally, as you were just reviewing, to not
- 1:06Speaker 2: only demolish the East Room, but to begin the construction
- 1:09Speaker 2: of a ballroom, and this Court says in a one
- 1:12Speaker 2: hundred page opinion that, for a variety of reasons across
- 1:16Speaker 2: statutory and constitutional authorities, that just wasn't his decision to make.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Irrespective of what dollars he's using, irrespective of the rationale
- 1:24Speaker 2: for building it, it was never his.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Decision to make. This is sort of a.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Fundamental clash of the branches of government, and this is
- 1:33Speaker 2: a Supreme Court that has been very friendly to this
- 1:35Speaker 2: president's interpretation of the sort of an elastic presidential power.
- 1:39Speaker 2: The question is at some point that rubber Band snaps
- 1:42Speaker 2: this might be that opportunity in Gene Lisa really quickly.
- 1:46Speaker 1: The East Room is gone, The whole side of the
- 1:49Speaker 1: White House is gone. So even if the Supreme Court
- 1:51Speaker 1: comes out and says that the President can't do this,
- 1:54Speaker 1: then what because there doesn't seem to be a way
- 1:57Speaker 1: to bring it all back.
- 2:00Speaker 3: You know, there doesn't.
- 2:00Speaker 2: And more importantly, it doesn't necessarily mean that the White
- 2:05Speaker 2: House has to put any money toward or that there's
- 2:07Speaker 2: any relief for the people who have brought this case
- 2:10Speaker 2: in the first place. Now, let's remember the plaintiffs in
- 2:12Speaker 2: this case are a national historic organization that basically are
- 2:16Speaker 2: seeking to vindicate the interests that all of us have
- 2:19Speaker 2: in the preservation of the historic buildings. So it's not
- 2:22Speaker 2: clear what the relief for them would be other than
- 2:26Speaker 2: pausing and stopping any future construction. But you're right, there
- 2:29Speaker 2: is a very obvious hole in the ground in Washington,
- 2:33Speaker 2: d C. With cranes that are paused mid air, visible
- 2:36Speaker 2: from all quarters of town. If the President is not
- 2:39Speaker 2: allowed to go forward, there's going to be a big
- 2:41Speaker 2: question of, well, what do we do about that huge
- 2:44Speaker 2: construction site in the middle of the White House grounds.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, let's move over to another legal case
- 2:51Speaker 1: that the President and his team are losing. This is
- 2:53Speaker 1: the David Herdin case. You guys, we have all covered this,
- 2:56Speaker 1: so viewers, you know exactly what I'm talking about. The
- 2:58Speaker 1: President still blaming Bandos even though David Hearn has been
- 3:03Speaker 1: clear that he didn't do anything and so has judged
- 3:06Speaker 1: Jeanine Pirot. And and you know, one of the things,
- 3:09Speaker 1: Susan that has stuck with me over this entire time is,
- 3:14Speaker 1: no matter what President Trump says, no matter what the
- 3:18Speaker 1: he the Interior Secretary says in front of the camera
- 3:22Speaker 1: when they go into court, there are things they have
- 3:24Speaker 1: to do, which is tell the truth. And David Hearn
- 3:27Speaker 1: was on CNN and he said this to Kaitlyn Conas
- 3:30Speaker 1: listened to this. Let's talk on the other side.
- 3:34Speaker 4: This can happen to anybody. If it can happen to me,
- 3:37Speaker 4: it could happen to anybody. Nobody's immune to this kind
- 3:40Speaker 4: of government lawlessness essentially. And it's it's really the kind
- 3:49Speaker 4: of thing that you think, you know, a country ruled
- 3:53Speaker 4: by a dictator. That's that's where you see that kind
- 3:56Speaker 4: of thing. And this isn't. This is not the Land
- 4:01Speaker 4: of the Free and the home of the brave that
- 4:02Speaker 4: I know.
- 4:06Speaker 1: This is a country that you know as well? Is
- 4:07Speaker 1: that another one? Maybe not in the United States?
- 4:10Speaker 5: Citizen.
- 4:12Speaker 6: Look, you know, imagine being out on your bike on
- 4:16Speaker 6: a summer afternoon and stopping by the National Mall looking
- 4:21Speaker 6: at you know what Donald Trump has already sort of
- 4:23Speaker 6: wrought the disruption. It's the cranes are all over.
- 4:26Speaker 3: The city, the digging, the you.
- 4:28Speaker 6: Know, the visible signs of a man who is determined
- 4:31Speaker 6: to put his personal stamp writing it, you know, physically
- 4:35Speaker 6: across our capital. And then all of a sudden you're
- 4:39Speaker 6: being charged with a felony because not just the President, but.
- 4:43Speaker 3: So many of those around him believe that.
- 4:45Speaker 6: His lives are more important than you know, the actual truth.
- 4:49Speaker 6: It's a painful moment in the country, and I think
- 4:51Speaker 6: that's why these stories are resonating for so many people.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Eugene. I mean, it all feels like a profound challenge
- 4:59Speaker 3: to what.
- 5:00Speaker 6: We think of as the United States, and of course
- 5:03Speaker 6: to do so while polluting the actual national mall that's
- 5:06Speaker 6: here to commemorate, a memorialize and pay tribute to those
- 5:11Speaker 6: very values that are maving you know. I mean, it's
- 5:14Speaker 6: just you know, tragedy or bad farce. And I think
- 5:18Speaker 6: that's the through line here in these court opinions again
- 5:21Speaker 6: and again over the last two years.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Today's is no exception in that sense.
- 5:25Speaker 6: Courts are screaming out to us and saying, these are
- 5:30Speaker 6: profoundly un American decisions, and you know, we have unfortunately
- 5:36Speaker 6: ample evidence that they're For everyone who says, Okay, this
- 5:39Speaker 6: is too far for me to go, apparently including even
- 5:42Speaker 6: Janine Piro, the former Fox TV host who's the US
- 5:45Speaker 6: attorney here in DC, there are those who are willing
- 5:49Speaker 6: to follow, and that includes Trump's acting Attorney General, who
- 5:53Speaker 6: now seems on the brink of confirmation his personal lawyer
- 5:57Speaker 6: turned into the Attorney general, who can bring more cases
- 6:00Speaker 6: like this.
- 6:00Speaker 1: I'm afraid, missus, Chairman, I'm going to take a page
- 6:03Speaker 1: out of your book and ask you to put a
- 6:05Speaker 1: little bow on this for us, because both of these
- 6:08Speaker 1: cases are similar, and that there are a lot of resources,
- 6:12Speaker 1: a lot of time, a lot of money in this
- 6:14Speaker 1: federal government that goes to making us all live in
- 6:17Speaker 1: Donald Trump's realities.
- 6:19Speaker 7: Well, that last part is it. He is forcing us
- 6:23Speaker 7: to live in his reality. As a native Washingtonian, to
- 6:27Speaker 7: see what this man has done to this city is
- 6:30Speaker 7: an abomination.
- 6:31Speaker 3: It is abhorrent.
- 6:33Speaker 7: Even in the worst during the worst days of the
- 6:36Speaker 7: riots and the protests, where people were, you know, spraying,
- 6:42Speaker 7: painting here and there, you didn't see anything like that
- 6:47Speaker 7: that touched on the monuments, if you will of the nation. Yeah,
- 6:53Speaker 7: you may have, you know, a business or shop owner
- 6:56Speaker 7: may have to deal with vandals, et cetera.
- 6:59Speaker 5: But there was even even amongst those who are angry
- 7:03Speaker 5: at the administration, angry at the country, if.
- 7:06Speaker 7: You will, for the war in Vietnam, or the lack
- 7:09Speaker 7: of civil rights, or the dehumanization of women and the
- 7:15Speaker 7: subjugation of their rights. They didn't take it out on
- 7:18Speaker 7: the national monuments. And that's what Donald Trump is doing.
- 7:21Speaker 7: His impromater is I'm going.
- 7:24Speaker 5: To turn this into me uh and there's nothing you
- 7:27Speaker 5: can do about it. And to the last point before
- 7:31Speaker 5: moving on to this one about you know this this
- 7:36Speaker 5: reflecting pool, the situation with the East Wing.
- 7:41Speaker 3: What's the court going to do. The Court's going to
- 7:44Speaker 3: give him what he wants.
- 7:46Speaker 5: They'll find a way, they'll make the case that was
- 7:48Speaker 5: made here. Well, you've already torn the building down and
- 7:51Speaker 5: you're not going to rebuild the oldest East Wing. And
- 7:55Speaker 5: you know, and you know the administration doesn't have those
- 7:58Speaker 5: parameters to do that, so future administration should know they can't.
- 8:01Speaker 5: But what are you going to do? So that's how
- 8:04Speaker 5: Donald Trump acts. He acts, and then everybody else has
- 8:08Speaker 5: to figure out how to undo it, and they realize
- 8:11Speaker 5: they can't. He wins, and somehow somewhere along the way,
- 8:16Speaker 5: we as a nation have got to put a stop
- 8:18Speaker 5: to this because the Congress won't. This Congress will not,
- 8:22Speaker 5: which is what the elections are ultimately going to be about,
- 8:25Speaker 5: whether or not there is the American people putting a
- 8:29Speaker 5: check back into the balance of things by redesigning, if
- 8:34Speaker 5: you will, what the Congress looks like, since Trump wants
- 8:38Speaker 5: to redesign everything else, everyone's home improvement.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Addition, here in Washington, DC, different journeys, though, Susan, when
- 8:45Speaker 1: you're thinking about the politics here, you have Americans all
- 8:48Speaker 1: over the country. We've had Alex Tabitt, one of our colleagues,
- 8:52Speaker 1: many of the reporters going around talking to voters, people
- 8:56Speaker 1: who vote for Donald Trump three times, crying to him
- 8:59Speaker 1: and saying that they can't afford to breathe. As one
- 9:02Speaker 1: woman put it, you have this war theron where we
- 9:05Speaker 1: are spending billions of dollars all the time in a
- 9:08Speaker 1: war that the American people don't want, don't understand, and
- 9:11Speaker 1: the president hasn't really spent any time doing that for them.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And yet the president is walking around taking glue sticks
- 9:18Speaker 1: and gluing gold applicates in the Oval Office, spending all
- 9:22Speaker 1: this brain space, Maggie Haberman says, seventy percent she estimates
- 9:27Speaker 1: of the president's brain space is to these renovations. When
- 9:30Speaker 1: you have a president so completely out of touch with
- 9:33Speaker 1: and completely doesn't even seem bothered by the things that
- 9:37Speaker 1: are happening to the American people, what he is getting,
- 9:39Speaker 1: what he wants. Where does that leave us?
- 9:43Speaker 3: You know, I'm glad you brought that up, Eugene. I
- 9:44Speaker 3: think that.
- 9:45Speaker 6: Image of Trump with the glue gun and the gold
- 9:50Speaker 6: encrusted wood putting that up in the Oval office is
- 9:53Speaker 6: probably the enduring symbol that I took out of the
- 9:58Speaker 6: excellent book that Maggie and John than Swan wrote, because
- 10:01Speaker 6: it shows a president who is essentially not only indifferent
- 10:06Speaker 6: to what voters think, but basically it's the profaning of
- 10:13Speaker 6: the capital and the Executive Mansion are the physical architectural
- 10:19Speaker 6: manifestations of our Congress. They're these beautiful, sort of spare, elegant,
- 10:24Speaker 6: restrained neoclassical designs meant to show in physical form what
- 10:30Speaker 6: our constitution is, which is again very streamlined, simple balanced. Right,
- 10:36Speaker 6: you have proportions, you have power here vested in an
- 10:39Speaker 6: executive but also then checked in a legislative branch, and
- 10:43Speaker 6: you know, you encrust it with gold, and all of
- 10:45Speaker 6: a sudden you've broken something more than just how the
- 10:49Speaker 6: building looks and.
- 10:50Speaker 3: How tacky it is.
- 10:51Speaker 6: And so for me, Donald Trump is all about, you know,
- 10:54Speaker 6: sort of like you know, forget the metaphor. He's the
- 10:56Speaker 6: metaphor made real. But in the election year, does does
- 11:00Speaker 6: any of it matter? My view is that it's breaking
- 11:03Speaker 6: through in a way that we haven't seen. That's part
- 11:05Speaker 6: of the reason, obviously for Trump's plunge in his approval
- 11:08Speaker 6: ratings is people are worried about things like the price
- 11:11Speaker 6: of gas.
- 11:11Speaker 3: But also I think it's pretty.
- 11:13Speaker 6: Easy to make a connection between a president whose priorities
- 11:17Speaker 6: are himself, the personal enrichment and the e goldification of
- 11:24Speaker 6: his physical surroundings at the expense of what Americans care about.
- 11:29Speaker 6: And you see it in those numbers. It's not Democrats already,
- 11:33Speaker 6: We'resauran Donald Trump. The reason he's going down in the
- 11:35Speaker 6: polls is because of independence, Republican leaning independence. Even some
- 11:40Speaker 6: Republicans are softening right now. He is the worst ratings
- 11:44Speaker 6: that he's had of his entire time in politics with
- 11:47Speaker 6: Republican voters who don't identify as MAGA.
- 11:50Speaker 3: And that's the warning sign
- 11:53Speaker 6: For Republicans is that Trump's support is softening in his
- 11:57Speaker 6: own party right now.