Latest / Money Grows on Trees / #361 - How My Stock Portfolio Bought Me This $565k Ferrari (All Cash)
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- 0:00My stock portfolio just bought me a $565,000 Ferrari,
- 0:04all cash. And most people think that that kind of money requires a massive
- 0:08salary, a property empire, or getting lucky. But the reality is it
- 0:11comes from understanding the one thing that most people never learn, how
- 0:14to actually make your portfolio work hard enough that it starts buying
- 0:18things for you. I'm Lloyd J. Ross, seven-figure investor entrepreneur, and
- 0:21I've helped thousands of everyday Australians, Americans, New Zealanders, Canadians, and
- 0:25people who are in Europe get out of debt and build real wealth. And in this video, I'm
- 0:28going to break down exactly how this works, how
- 0:31my portfolio got there, and the structure I used to buy a
- 0:35supercar and save six figures in tax at
- 0:38the same time. So I want you to stay to the end because I'm going to talk to you about the
- 0:41structure that we bought in that hopefully going to help you if you decide to buy a
- 0:44supercar. And I hope you do. How to save a ton of tax per
- 0:48the laws in Australia. But that being said, let's dive into this. This
- 0:51is going to be fun. You can see behind me, new cars. It's a lot of fun. And
- 0:54it's really difficult to do a podcast episode or do anything for that matter
- 0:58sometimes with a Ferrari without being like a wanker. It's just a little bit tricky
- 1:01sometimes, but I thought, what a cool opportunity this is going to be to
- 1:05take you through the journey of how this happened, how you can
- 1:08do it, and if you decide to buy a supercar, the best way to
- 1:11approach it, how I've personally done it, and basically just roll back the curtain and
- 1:15give you a really authentic play-by-play on
- 1:20why I bought a Ferrari, how you can buy a Ferrari, and some of
- 1:23the cool stuff that it can do for you. I think from when I was the age
- 1:26of six, when I was playing with matchbox cars, I wanted a Ferrari. at
- 1:306 or 7 or 8 doesn't want a Ferrari, right? I had a F40 on my
- 1:34wall, I'm sure you did too, and it's like the preeminent car.
- 1:37When people talk about supercars and buying supercars, there are
- 1:40different ones you can choose from. You can get a Lambo, you can get a McLaren, you
- 1:43can get Aston Martins, you can get Rolls Royces, you can get Porsches, and
- 1:47you can of course get Ferraris. And one thing I've learnt, I have been a car
- 1:50guy my whole life, I love cars, I used to race motorbikes as a kid, but For
- 1:54a long time, I put it off buying a Ferrari. But one thing I've learned about it is
- 1:57that whilst all those cars exist, and you may or may not agree with me, and that's okay, but
- 2:01there's only one supercar that people talk about when you become successful or
- 2:05a success car. They don't say, oh, they might say get the Lambo, but
- 2:08most often they'll say the Ferrari. And the reason for that is because if
- 2:12you understand the history of Ferrari as a motor car and a motor
- 2:15racing company, which is how it started in the sixties with Enzo Ferrari, you
- 2:19understand the heritage and you really do get to grasp how
- 2:23much value they've put into this brand over time with
- 2:26being the leaders in formula one, with being the leaders in motor car
- 2:30and sportiness in cars. And they have built this brand.
- 2:33And even Warren Buffett has said, he said this at the Berkshire Hathaway meeting, Ferrari
- 2:37is the only car company in the world with a genuine brand.
- 2:41He said that, and it's the only car company, if you dive deep into
- 2:44Ferrari's business model, it's the only car company that actually
- 2:48has 20% plus margins, which is quite amazing for
- 2:51a car company. If you look at GM and these other car companies, they've got 4% margins, they're
- 2:55big mass producers, but Ferrari is often described as
- 2:58a luxury brand. that happens to make great motorcars.
- 3:02And it's fascinating. And I kind of didn't really know what that meant until you
- 3:06own one and you see what sort of emotion that
- 3:09the brand elicits in people. So when people see a Ferrari, they're
- 3:13seeing 65 years or more of a
- 3:17brand build of winning, not just in
- 3:20motorsports, but winning in terms of design, luxury,
- 3:25and You've only got to drive a Ferrari down the street where people
- 3:28know it's a Ferrari because it's in Rosso Corsa red. It owns that color
- 3:32and they see it a mile away. And when you're driving it, the young boys,
- 3:37they immediately gravitate to it. So they know what it is. The
- 3:40guys in the showroom were telling me that there's kids that come in and there was a kid that came
- 3:43in the other day to look at it and he just cried. Now, I'm gonna
- 3:47tell ya, that when in the past I've been fortunate enough to drive Porsches
- 3:51and Aston Martins and supercars, I've been around, my dad's been super successful in
- 3:54his past too, so I've been around, I remember when I was four, he had a 944 Porsche,
- 3:57so I've been around supercars, I've been around nice cars, and
- 4:00so I understood the emotiveness of what it does to people. I've
- 4:04seen it, but when I bought this, I had no idea just
- 4:08how, how, emotive the Ferrari brand specifically
- 4:12is, specifically for this car. Kind of seduces people, it's incredible. So
- 4:15there's this whole Ferrari brand build that's happened behind the scenes. Someone said
- 4:19the other day, with a supercar you don't buy it for people
- 4:22today to show off, you buy it for the six-year-old you.
- 4:26That's who you buy it for and that's who I bought it for. I didn't buy the car to sit it in
- 4:29a garage and just collect it. Although, by the way, sometimes you don't know whether
- 4:33just to sit there and look at it or drive it. It's beautiful. It's
- 4:36a piece of art and you're like, oh, if I'm going to drive this thing, it's beautiful.
- 4:40It's so fun. So this episode, I want some objectives for you because I want to impart some value
- 4:43to you. I don't want to dick pick this into your living room and just swing this. I
- 4:46just don't want to. So here's what I want to do. I'm going to talk to you a little bit
- 4:49about my investing journey that positioned me in a
- 4:52place to buy the car. Then I'm going to explain to you and impart some wisdom
- 4:56to you hopefully as to why now. And perhaps I've
- 4:59had friends who've messaged me and said, thank you for posting that because it's inspired
- 5:03me to just do this now. Because you're going to die one day, right? I want to talk about
- 5:06that. Then I want to talk about some of the structures. I'll talk about the money, the
- 5:09structures. Really just dive deep and just leave nothing unexposed so
- 5:13I can help you understand this a lot better. And hopefully it will inspire you
- 5:16or give you some idea of how to do it. So here we go. I
- 5:19started investing when I was 20, I
- 5:23must have been 22, 23 and the first
- 5:27stock I bought was Westpac Bank shares and I paid a dividend. It was a fun experience
- 5:30to get my first dividend. I wanted to do it because I felt like
- 5:33shares and investing was my pathway to freedom. You
- 5:37either choose property or shares or something like that to
- 5:40get some sort of passive wealth building. Whereas to
- 5:43really get wealthy quickly, the only plausible path
- 5:47is business. I want you to know this. You're not going to invest your
- 5:51way to this massive freedom thing. You're not going to property
- 5:54flip your way. It's going to take time. But if you want to really get
- 5:58rich faster, and people talk about, it's not a get rich quick scheme. And by
- 6:01all accounts, it's not. But business is how you do it. We
- 6:05have named our car, my wife and I, Dolly, because the
- 6:08day we bought it, Dolly Parton died. It's a lady, even the number plate La Rosa,
- 6:11just so you know, it's actually Italian and it means the
- 6:15red lady. The red lady, and it's what they call the
- 6:18two Formula One cars, La Rosa, the red ladies. And
- 6:21this is the number plate we got, and it was still available, which is cool. Ferraris, I can't believe that's available.
- 6:25So we bought it. So if you see this car, and I hope you do, photograph it, share it
- 6:28to Instagram. I want you to participate in the fun with it too. But La Rossa
- 6:32means the red lady or the redhead in Italian. So, and
- 6:35it's a little bit like my last name and LNA is my wife's name and my initials, so
- 6:38it's fun. Anyway, I digress. So I took Dolly to the petrol station, filling up, walked
- 6:41inside, and this guy stops me. And this is what I'm talking
- 6:45about. This is how it happens. More than I ever anticipated it would
- 6:48happen. People stop you. It inflicts some
- 6:51sort of emotional response from people. Even Alex, who's behind the camera now,
- 6:55who's a legend, he said, I drove in today, he goes, man, I almost opened
- 6:58the door for you. I was like, I know. It's the car. It
- 7:01does that. They don't care about me. They care about the car. And I wanted to care about the
- 7:04car because it's beautiful, right? He said to me in the service, he pulled me up. He says, hey man, I
- 7:08don't mean to pry, but can I ask you a question? I'm like, sure, what's up? What do
- 7:11you have to do to get a car like that? And the most important piece of advice I
- 7:14can give, which I did give him was you've got to start a business. With the
- 7:18tax legislation of PAYG wages at taking half what you
- 7:21earn over 200K, it's so hard to get there without a business because you've
- 7:24got to separate your time from your money making. Anyway, I digress.
- 7:28So I started investing at 22 because I wanted
- 7:32to build a portfolio that freed me from 9 to
- 7:365. That was my real objective. I didn't want to work in 9 to 5. And if you're in
- 7:399 to 5 and you hate it, I get it. I wouldn't last a single day in
- 7:42there on some of those teams. I just wouldn't. And so that
- 7:45was my plan. So what I did was I left, I was
- 7:49incidentally, I worked on the Formula One circuit in Abu Dhabi when
- 7:52I was 23. Now for the first four years of that career, the
- 7:56Ferrari World Theme Park. So I've had this kind of like love affair
- 7:59with Ferrari for a long time. But when I was there, I was like, I can't stay here, I
- 8:02gotta get out. So I left and I jumped into property investment planning
- 8:06with my dad. And the business was going through real challenges at the time. I could
- 8:09do a whole episode on just the challenges that was happening at the time that you wouldn't even
- 8:12believe. Long story short, we ride it, it got going, started learning the craft
- 8:16of how to make money without my time necessarily. But it wasn't until we got into
- 8:19network marketing and scaled that online that I started getting an online business. And since then,
- 8:22we've now got five companies, five businesses in multiple different industries that
- 8:26we're growing and scaling. However, when I got into
- 8:29the property business, I made a decision that I wanted to also
- 8:32invest my money. So what I did was, because I was a Warren Buffett
- 8:36disciple, I was just going to give my money to him to
- 8:39manage. Fascinating, isn't it? I think that's a pretty wise thing to do.
- 8:44So I didn't buy index funds back then. Had I known what I know now, I would
- 8:47have invested in like the S&P 500 index fund. I would have done that immediately, but
- 8:51I didn't. And it's okay. It worked out fine. How I built my million dollar
- 8:54portfolio is this. My first million dollars in my portfolio. So
- 8:57I would sell real estate, I'd get paid commission, and
- 9:01I'd keep half for myself, and I'd give half to Warren Buffett. And
- 9:04so I played this game for seven years. Make money, keep
- 9:08half, invest half. And I invested in Berkshire Hathaway B-class
- 9:11shares, which at the time was selling for about, I started buying them at
- 9:15$80. Now, if you look now at a Berkshire Hathaway B-class
- 9:18share, as of today, it's $507. So you
- 9:23can see that it's over 5X since I started buying. 500% return.
- 9:28So that's what I started to do. And I got that up to about, God,
- 9:31I remember I got it probably to 400,000. That's how I kind of started.
- 9:35I just played that game day in, day out, week in, week out.
- 9:38And people often like, how do I build wealth? I'm like, you're not going to like the answer. It's very
- 9:41stoic. It's like work. Don't overspend your
- 9:44income. Underspend it and then put money to work.
- 9:48And I just played that game. And so the portfolio grew to a certain point that I knew it
- 9:51could compound. But did I stop there? No. Most people
- 9:54think they can just stay in that particular role that they're comfy in, invest in
- 9:57stocks, and then buy a Ferrari. You just can't do that. I think it's important for
- 10:01you to start that and do that. But then what I did was I recognized that
- 10:04there was other opportunities with the money I could do, which just means I started a network marketing business, scaled
- 10:08up money there. It enabled me to invest even more. in our
- 10:11share portfolio. Then I started to move away from
- 10:14just owning Berkshire Hathaway, which is like its own index fund to be fair, and
- 10:18I started to actually buy individual stocks. And
- 10:21so I got to a point where I'd saved up about $100,000 and I
- 10:25was like, do I want to buy more Berkshire Hathaway stock or do I want to
- 10:28start investing in individual companies? So I knew enough from my training
- 10:31and so forth to be able to do that. So the opportunity came where
- 10:35Bank of America was selling for $12 or $13 a share. It
- 10:38was in 2011. And I was like, I'm going to swing at that because Warren
- 10:42Buffett just parked. He put in $10 billion, and then
- 10:45he had convertible notes on it. So he ended up converting it to $20 billion.
- 10:49Anyway, he made it a really big position. And so I understood enough
- 10:52about banks. With banks, how they make money is they have a net interest margin. And
- 10:56if you can get a big bank like Bank of America that ain't going out
- 10:59of business very soon, and Warren Buffett backs
- 11:02it, I think it was 0.6% of book value. That
- 11:06means if you bought the whole bank and sold off its physical
- 11:09assets, it was tangible book value. It was selling for less
- 11:13than what you could actually break up the company for and sell it. I was like, okay, that makes sense. And
- 11:17I put in the whole 100K. Now, I doubled my money in a year. And
- 11:20I think it's interesting because people often don't think you can do that, but
- 11:23you can with individual stocks. But I'm not saying rush out and do it. I'm saying that's some
- 11:27of the stuff I started to do. But it enabled the portfolio to
- 11:30grow a little bit quicker. And I did it with Commonwealth Bank. I started buying
- 11:33that at probably $75. And I, to be fair, I exited
- 11:37at $120. But it was paying some dividends too. I bought Citigroup, which
- 11:40is another bank for super cheap, was like $40. cents
- 11:44on the dollar. I bought JB Hi-Fi cheap. I exited Bank
- 11:47of America and when the banking crisis happened again, a couple,
- 11:51three or four years ago, where all those regional banks were going broke in America, Bank
- 11:55of America fell to $25, $26 a share and I
- 11:58parked half a million in it. So I'm learning as I'm going as
- 12:02to how to invest in really cool opportunities like
- 12:05that. So I was building this confidence with it. But when another
- 12:09opportunity to buy Bank of America came and I saw Li Lu put
- 12:12in a ton of money, I think Warren was even buying back then again. So
- 12:16I'm watching all Superinvest doing, and I knew the company because I'd already done
- 12:19the due diligence. So I parked, I remember, I shared on my Instagram stories. I think I
- 12:22parked in, to be fair, $560,000. It's
- 12:25the same price as this car behind me. So I parked in 560K. Now
- 12:29what happened then was Bank of America doubled and it took about 18 months.
- 12:33So I made 500, like a lot of money back then. I
- 12:36thought it was a lot of money, probably is now too. I thought it was pretty cool. So I was like, you know
- 12:39what? So then the portfolio is approaching, I think
- 12:43at that point it was a couple million bucks. What's interesting about that is that we
- 12:46had built it. This is not including our businesses that are producing money
- 12:49and growing at the same time. We had built it in a trust, right? So
- 12:53we had actually, through a discretionary trust before labor
- 12:56change of policies, you would take some of your business income, you could
- 13:00pay the trust a dividend and it distributes to the beneficiaries. And
- 13:04you could distribute to beneficiaries who are personally my wife and also companies.
- 13:07Now you can't do the company part. So we did that and for a long time I underspent my income
- 13:11so much that I was just pouring money into the share portfolio. So
- 13:15wind the clock forward to, I would say even a month ago, we
- 13:18had millions of dollars in a trust where
- 13:22the beneficiaries had lent the money back to the trust and the equity portfolio
- 13:26sat in the trust. Now, what's fascinating is there's
- 13:29a few million in there in great companies. I have oil
- 13:32companies. By the way, part of the return to us, I
- 13:36bet big in February, I put $700,000 in
- 13:40oil equities. That was up 35%, I think, since
- 13:43then. I didn't know the Iran war was going to happen. That was luck. We
- 13:47were in a secular bear market for oil, now we're in a secular bull market for
- 13:50oil. There's a whole other episode, but there's probably
- 13:54a quick 300,000 there too. The ability to buy individual
- 13:58stocks at the right time can enhance your portfolio gains a lot, obviously. I
- 14:02had Google, blah, blah. I had these growth stock. I had Alibaba that you
- 14:05know for a long time, because I've spoken about that on X for so long, and
- 14:08I still think that's a wonderful business. But I had those growth companies. And what I
- 14:12noticed was, I was like, huh, there's a shift happening in the AI
- 14:15space, and I'm not too sure what's going to happen with growth
- 14:19stocks with this oil thing going on. Because if oil goes to $2 or $3 million
- 14:22a barrel, which it could, and interest rates are going to go up. So just as interest rates are going
- 14:25up, Growth stocks become less valuable. So I had like maybe
- 14:29one and a half million or more in growth stocks. And
- 14:32then I had on the other side, same tune, rail, oil, copper.
- 14:37And part of me is just like, I don't know what I'm gonna do here. So I liquidated the
- 14:41growth stocks. I chucked in, what, one to one and a half million
- 14:44dollars into a term deposit because rates are going up. So that's currently a good play
- 14:48at the moment because of rates. And then I was like, oh, I
- 14:51could probably just carve out some money here too and buy a new car. Now,
- 14:54what's fascinating about that is because it was in a trust, the trust
- 14:58actually had borrowed from the beneficiaries, which is myself and my wife, over a
- 15:0220-year period. So this portfolio has been built effectively
- 15:06in our personal in over a 20-year period. What's interesting about
- 15:09that is that when it came time to buy the cars, having a conversation with my accountant about
- 15:13that because that's a smart thing to do, And if you need a good accountant, DM
- 15:16me. I have an accounting business. We have an accounting advisory business now. If you're a genuine
- 15:20business owner and you're making multiple seven figures and you need a good advisor
- 15:24and accountant, let me know. Hit me up. I don't know. Find me on Instagram.
- 15:28So anyway, talking about accounting and we're like, how do you buy a supercar? There's no books on it. How
- 15:32do you buy a supercar in Australia? And it turns out if you buy a
- 15:35supercar in a company and you use it
- 15:38on a personal basis, like right now, this is business, right? What would you be using it for?
- 15:42Really? It's branding. It's part of this podcasting,
- 15:46which is business. More often than not, it's personal. It's a personal thing, right?
- 15:49You got to be careful because the interesting about that is one, if
- 15:53you buy in a company and you use it
- 15:56for personal use, the tax office deems it
- 15:59a dividend to you personally from the company. For example, if you buy a
- 16:04$565,000 motor car, right? It's actually 530, but the stamp duty is 6%. Just
- 16:07so you know, stamp duty on supercars is 6%. Houses, personal
- 16:11PPR homes is 3%. So stamp duty on this car here
- 16:15is the same as stamp duty what would be on a $1.1 million house, just
- 16:18so you know. So yes, it's quite a bit of money. It was funny at the DMV, she goes,
- 16:22how would you like to pay the $32,000? I'm like, how do you normally take? She
- 16:25goes, I don't normally do it. I was like, okay, what do we do? She goes, check. I'm like, no
- 16:28one uses checks. She's like, cash? I don't have cash. The banks don't even let
- 16:31you take out $32,000 cash anymore in Australia. So I was like, what are
- 16:34we going to? And she said, card. I'm like, we can give it a go. Bang, it went through, thankfully. I
- 16:38was like, oh my God. Thank God for that. So you have the
- 16:41cash. You buy a company. You then, at
- 16:45$560,000, you are deemed to have paid that
- 16:50amount as a dividend to you personally. Now,
- 16:53of course, if you do that, you're gonna pay the top-up tax from
- 16:57say 30% or 25% base rate in a company, top-up
- 17:00tax could be 15%. So all of a sudden, if
- 17:04you take 560 by 15%, you're looking at $130,000 of what's
- 17:07called fringe benefits tax. So you're getting a fringe benefit yourself personally
- 17:11from a company purchase, and the tax office deems it to be a
- 17:14dividend. So we would have had to pay, if I bought it in the company, we would have had to pay more
- 17:17than six figures in fringe benefits tax, like in a top-up tax for the dividend.
- 17:21So you'd be careful with that. So to be fair, over
- 17:24time we've paid some personal tax on that money, but because we were
- 17:28lower earners back then, and because we had distributed through the trust,
- 17:32we were able to take advantage of our marginal rates up to 35%, 37%, and
- 17:37build that portfolio over time in our personal name effectively. It's in a trust, so
- 17:41it's protected, but it's deemed to be in personal name. So when I liquidated some
- 17:44to move some into a term deposit, I took some out
- 17:48and I paid that back to my wife, Alicia,
- 17:52in the loans that I had done. So like, it was actually our personal money. So it
- 17:56turned out that by all those years of 20 years, from when I
- 17:59first started when I was 23, investing in shares, that
- 18:02it actually paid off the fact that it was in a trust structure, and
- 18:06we happened to be the personal beneficiaries in that. So it's a loan paid back
- 18:09to the beneficiaries. Without going into the law, you can do that. But
- 18:12talk to your accountant about it, of course. This is not financial advice. And now I'm just
- 18:15trying to take you through what happened. And what's interesting too,
- 18:19is I always learned from my dad, if you buy a supercar, as long as you trust your wife,
- 18:23buy your supercar in your wife's name. For no other reason than if you're
- 18:26in business, and we are, I've got, again, I'm a director of five companies in Australia. There's
- 18:30risk that comes with being a director of a company. There's a level of asset protection you
- 18:34want to make. This is a very important asset behind me. It's not a
- 18:37small amount of money. So the last thing I'm going to do is roll around in
- 18:40a company, in an operating company, this car, and also my own
- 18:43personal name, not that it matters too much, but I'm very conscious of
- 18:47asset protection as I move forward. Because whilst you do your best
- 18:50to always make sure you're doing the right thing and having integrity, sometimes you
- 18:54just can't read the future or what's going to happen. And so it's a risk protection mechanism
- 18:58of what you can't see. I don't ever intend to
- 19:02go through any litigation or anything like that. And our businesses aren't
- 19:05in a position where we would get litigated, but I just want to be careful. So I'm like, you know what,
- 19:09honey, it will be in your name. So it's in her name. So this is her car. And
- 19:12I told you, I'm going to tell you exactly how it went down. So I'm
- 19:16like paying cash, did it over liquidating some of our share portfolio based
- 19:20on the moves we'd made over a 20-year period. It wasn't overnight. And
- 19:24then bought it in my wife's name, paid in full. Now, if you
- 19:27have a car like this, just to understand the numbers too, is
- 19:31my candidate said to me, she said, Hey, have you done the numbers on this long-term? Like I
- 19:34have remiss of me to be a financial educator and not do the numbers on
- 19:37a Ferrari purchase. So the purchase, as I mentioned, is
- 19:41530 plus you have to pay capital gains tax. So 565, that's the capital
- 19:44purchase. Now what's interesting about Ferraris is that they don't actually
- 19:48depreciate that much. If you look at other supercars, like
- 19:51if you look at Rolls-Royce specifically, not to tarnish the brand, but there's
- 19:55a fairly significant amount of depreciation out of Rolls-Royces specifically.
- 19:59If you don't believe me, go check out what they retail for and just look at the pre-love market
- 20:03after that. They tend to, even though I love them. I
- 20:06would say to some extent Lamborghini, although they do hold value pretty
- 20:09well too, depending on what model, but Ferrari without question, they
- 20:13do because they actually go up in value. And the reason for that
- 20:17is because Enzo Ferrari's business model, and they explain this,
- 20:20if you go to Ferrari, like we went to Brisbane Ferrari, by the way, big shout out
- 20:23to Ferrari Brisbane and the team there, especially Maria. I'll
- 20:26come to the story of how we bought it in a second. But one thing
- 20:30I learned is that Ferrari Enzo's business model has
- 20:33always been, we will always make one less Ferrari than the market
- 20:36wants. And so there's this branding lesson
- 20:40in there about generating scarcity, which
- 20:43is what they do. And if you go and buy some of these handbags like YSL and
- 20:47Birkins and so forth, If you go to the shop, they actually have rope
- 20:50across it you can't get in. So they're creating artificial scarcity and
- 20:54lux by doing that. So Ferrari has done that by not creating
- 20:57too many cars. So that's why this car behind me is now a collector's model because
- 21:01they don't make any 488 Spiders anymore. In fact, I believe there's
- 21:0410 in Queensland. There's not that many because once they make them, they're done. I
- 21:08believe there was 7,500 of this model built completely. So there's not
- 21:11that many around the world. I don't know how many in Australia. The interesting thing is when
- 21:14you buy it, as long as you don't thrash it and you put
- 21:18tons of Ks on it, it will go up
- 21:21in value. Like right now, the 458s, they're going up in value because they're the last naturally
- 21:24aspirated Ferrari around. So you'll see some of these models. If
- 21:27you look at old Testarossas, you look at obviously old F40s and
- 21:31so forth, but just the, like even the 348s, the 355 Billionaires,
- 21:35the last gated manual 355, beautiful car. Jeremy Clarkson
- 21:38from Top Gear said it's the most beautiful car he's
- 21:42ever driven and he went out there's an episode you can watch on geo he went and bought it
- 21:45and he had his red it was a beautiful gts which is a semi-convertible f355
- 21:50beautiful car gated manual i toss up getting one because they're so
- 21:53cool they're the last analog ferrari so
- 21:57there's these collectors like They're actually a work
- 22:00of art. When you own one and you sit there, you don't know whether to look at it or drive it. It's just a
- 22:03weird thing. And so that is also interesting from
- 22:07a depreciation standpoint. It's actually an investment incidentally. So
- 22:10going back to the original prompt of how much does a car like
- 22:13this cost to run? So let me break it down for you depending on your
- 22:17specific situation. So again, it's not advice, but just depending who
- 22:21you're driving history, blah, blah, blah. The insurance, depending on
- 22:24who you go to as well, might be in the vicinity of about 5,000 a year
- 22:28and less if you're a pretty good driver. We don't have any, an unblemished record like
- 22:31my wife. So 5,000 roughly is probably what you're looking for insurance. I
- 22:34think I haven't serviced it yet, so I don't know, but the servicing probably, and again,
- 22:39It depends on what you need done, but it could be to the tune of maybe two to
- 22:42two and a half, maybe even $3,000 a year, depending. Okay. Now
- 22:46what you want to do with a freight, you want to make sure it's got an impeccable service record. Like
- 22:49with this car, it's got its own original letter in the front. It's
- 22:52got its, everything's like collectors. So it's like impeccable service
- 22:56history. So you have to get it serviced with Ferrari. By
- 22:59the way, I asked the guys too, I said, hey, is there really this list that goes
- 23:03around, like the blacklist for a Ferrari, where if you change
- 23:07the color of the paint and stuff like that, and you put your own branding on it and
- 23:10spec it up, do they blacklist you from owning a Ferrari? And the answer is yes.
- 23:15That's a real thing. Now, I said, how do they police that? And they
- 23:18said, guess who services all the Ferraris? Ferrari. You
- 23:21don't take your Ferrari to get serviced by someone else. You take your Ferrari to
- 23:24get serviced by a Ferrari. So they know all the owners. They know
- 23:28how many cars are registered. They know all, like they know. And
- 23:31so you're not going to get access to a brand new model
- 23:34through them if you've seen to be tarnishing the brand. So that's how much it
- 23:37costs. So that's the servicing, that's the insurance. And of course, we
- 23:41can't forget the registration, which because this is registered
- 23:45to next year, I can't tell you what that is, but I'm pretty sure it'd be around the tune of maybe two to
- 23:48three grand. So I think all in all, aside from
- 23:51petrol, and by the way, I filled this car up now four times since I've owned it. And I've only owned it for not
- 23:54very long, like a month. I've put a thousand. Yeah, you're gonna
- 23:58use it. But yeah, guys, it's a V8 twin turbo. It's
- 24:01gonna use a lot of petrol. But outside the petrol, 10,000 pro to
- 24:04run the car a year. So if you don't have that type of money to run it, don't get it.
- 24:08But also when you buy it, it's a cheap deal. I feel personally,
- 24:12frankly, and again, it's depending on who you are and what you do. I
- 24:15haven't even thought about the money since we parted with it. I haven't. I feel
- 24:18like it's, that's an unbelievable deal for what the car gives you.
- 24:22the joy that it's it's such a cheap deal
- 24:26i feel like i'm getting the deal right so
- 24:29worth it so going back to the timing of when you should
- 24:33buy a supercar and i know this is probably a longer episode but i want to make sure it's done well
- 24:36because i only get one chance to tell you about how i bought this ferrari i'm
- 24:4143 Now, there's people out there that buy Ferraris, it's getting younger and younger. There's 20-year-olds,
- 24:45there's 30-year-olds, whatever, it doesn't matter. I didn't hit it big and build after
- 24:48paying, sell it for a billion dollars and go, I didn't do that. I've just
- 24:51built business over time and a portfolio over time
- 24:55and stayed out of debt and that's all I've done.
- 24:59I haven't done it, I haven't like, oh, I've exited that for a hundred million, not that. I've
- 25:03just grinded it out for 20 years and had
- 25:06fun along the way. The old saying goes, when should you buy a supercar? When
- 25:09your watch is worth more than the car you drive, maybe that's
- 25:13a good sign. I've always wanted a car, always thought about it, talked about it. We
- 25:16had this goal in one of our businesses, if we hit the goal, I'll get one. We came
- 25:19close to it, but I was like, you know what, why am I setting these ridiculous goals? So
- 25:23I'm starting to plan in my head. our broker platform that we use
- 25:27to place trades, something happened. There was a bit of a glitch and I didn't place
- 25:31a trade correctly and I spoke to them and they said, sorry about that. There was just,
- 25:34you have to do it in tranches, blah, blah, blah. I was like, that's all cool. They said, by the
- 25:37way, put our best foot forward. We're going to invite you to Ferrari for
- 25:41a launch night, which we did in Ferrari Brisbane. I'm like, cool. That sounds good. Took my wife, went
- 25:44up there, had a launch night. It was beautiful, did this presentation. I was like, cool. So
- 25:47now we're in, now we're like in the click. I connected with the lady there, Bro Brisbane
- 25:50Maria, grabbed her card, and I grabbed her card on purpose, because I said, I
- 25:54want to buy a Ferrari, I want to buy a 488, I know what I want, because I've been thinking about it
- 25:57for so long. So that was the first step. It's a little bit like when you get married, the very first
- 26:00step you've got to take for anyone who's not married and you want to get married, buy the ring. It's
- 26:03the most, once you buy the ring, everything else happens. So
- 26:07just buy the ring. Then, because it was such a fun experience, I
- 26:10had the card next to me on my desk, and I used it as motivation. I was like, I'm just going to
- 26:13leave it there, I'm going to get a car. So I was like, I'm starting to manifest this. And
- 26:16then they invite us to this next thing, the launch of the Amalfi at Sereme. So they
- 26:19invited us. We're like, cool, let's go along. And they put on this beautiful three
- 26:23course lunch and they launched the car. We went for a drive in it and
- 26:26it was just nice people and I connected with them. And that was just cool, good people
- 26:30there. Really nice. They'd all got flipping Ferraris coming out of their wazoo.
- 26:33I was like, oh my God. So then I felt like we don't have a car and we're in this clique,
- 26:36in this group, in this great community. And so then my wife said to
- 26:40me, you know that they're grooming you, right? And I said to
- 26:43her, you know I'm letting him. So that's how
- 26:46we started to get a relationship right now. One thing is this, with Ferrari, you
- 26:49can't just walk in and buy a car. You can't just walk in the showroom and say, I'll take it. They
- 26:53almost like vet you. And so especially you
- 26:57can't just buy pre-love models like this. This is a 2019 delivered
- 27:01488 Spyder. You can't just walk in and get them either. This is a six to 12 month
- 27:05find. And so when we went to the Cereme experience,
- 27:09I enjoyed it so much. But they give you access to the owner's app to
- 27:12get access to the event. So all of a sudden, it's a beautiful bubble
- 27:16bath experience of how they're bringing you into their community. And there's a lot of business
- 27:19lessons to learn about that. In fact, we did an event last Monday in
- 27:23our accounting business because we modeled what Ferrari did in their first event.
- 27:26So we were starting to model what a world-class brand does. So there's some great lessons
- 27:30in that. And the fact they're just spoiling us and giving us reciprocity. There's
- 27:33a lot of reciprocity influence. But you get to
- 27:37participate. So here's what happened. I'm walking into service
- 27:40paradise to get ice cream with my wife one day and
- 27:43I'm walking along back and then my left leg starts to buckle and
- 27:47I started to get confused and I started to feel faint like I was going to pass out. And
- 27:50then I was a bit numb on my left side of my body and I was like, I
- 27:53was like, holy shit, am I having a stroke? And I do what everyone
- 27:57would do, I went to chat GPT. I chucked in the symptoms, I
- 28:00was having a stroke, and it said, yes, you're having a stroke. I was like, holy shit. So my
- 28:03wife said, you okay? I'm like, not really, I think I'm having a stroke. She goes, let's go to the hospital. So
- 28:06we went to the hospital, and they walk in there, and they just shave your chest, and they plug
- 28:10you all these things, and I'm like slaying on this bed, and there's just
- 28:13these wires down me, and I'm like, holy shit, my heart rate's up, holy fuck.
- 28:17Am I gonna die? Is this the end? Am I having a stroke? I'm
- 28:21only telling you this because I'm going to explain to you what prompted me to buy this car. And
- 28:25in my mind, I thought, I've traveled the world. I've got the love of my
- 28:28life, my ride or die, my wife, Alicia. I've traveled the world. Literally, I've
- 28:31traveled and traveled. I've been on 60s again, but I've traveled everywhere I
- 28:35want to go. I have built great businesses. We've built financial independence
- 28:38and freedom. We've got a loving family. I was like, I sat in front of a baby, which we're
- 28:41working on. I didn't have any regrets, but one regret. I sat there,
- 28:44not just like, and this is my thought, I'm like, you dickhead. You
- 28:48have done this and you didn't even buy the Ferrari. So
- 28:52when I came, so by the way, I'm okay. What had happened was the
- 28:56arteries in the back of my head, this thing called a visceral migraine, where the arteries in your back
- 28:59of your neck open up very quickly for whatever reason, and
- 29:02all the blood rushes through, and it mimics the symptoms of a stroke. So
- 29:06the doctor said, your CT scan's good, we're all good. I think you've had a vascular migraine. It
- 29:09mimics the symptoms of a stroke, but you're okay. I was like, thank God. I
- 29:13was like, false alarm, thank God. So I left. At the hospital,
- 29:17he said, just watch this and this, because this can set it off. I said, cool. And
- 29:20then my wife said to me, so how was that? I was like, you wouldn't believe this. But I didn't
- 29:24think about you. I didn't think about my family. I just
- 29:27thought I didn't buy the supercar. And she said, that's funny. We laughed about
- 29:31it. And so that prompted it. I was like, maybe
- 29:34it's time. And then my brother, I'm walking back from the gym one day. Don't
- 29:38forget, I've got Maria's business card, so I'm halfway there.
- 29:42And I'm looking at the Ferrari app, and I saw this beautiful
- 29:46488 Spider in Melbourne. I was just like, that's what I want. It was perfect. And
- 29:51so I knew it was there. So I'm walking back from the gym. My brother sends
- 29:54me this reel on Instagram, and it says, you know you're going to die on some random day
- 29:58with unanswered emails, and your life's going to go on. The world's
- 30:02going to go on without you. And I remember stopping dead, and I was like, shit.
- 30:06And at that moment, I was like, man, I need to get this car.
- 30:10But also, one of our business and education business, we
- 30:14have these monthly meetings. And one of my business partners said to me, why are
- 30:17we building business? For what purpose? Are we collecting money? And I was
- 30:20like, that's a good question. Are we just collecting money? What's the purpose? He said,
- 30:23I'm not going to retire. Well, I'm not going to retire because we love what we do. So if we're not going
- 30:26to retire, what are we saving for exactly? And that's why I love this notion
- 30:30of get rid of the word of retirement. And if you do that, you
- 30:33start to work differently in a way that's sustainable, that you love, that you could just work until
- 30:37you're 90. So we have done that. So it's like, what do we
- 30:40actually say? We're not saving for retirement. What are we NASDAQing for
- 30:43here? So we started chatting about it. He said, you know what? I've been listening to Bill Perkins.
- 30:47And Bill Perkins wrote the book, Die With Zero. So he
- 30:50sent me a YouTube clip and I started watching it and Bill Perkins talks about these things
- 30:53called memory dividends. He talks about how you should spread
- 30:57your money spending it over your life so you can actually collect memory dividends along the
- 31:00way. Now, by all accounts, just so you know, I had done that.
- 31:04I have run ultra marathons, I've done bodybuilding comps, I have done boxing
- 31:07fights, I have traveled the world with my wife, I have gone to kick-ass ski
- 31:11holidays, I have got married in a beautiful flipping wedding off its face.
- 31:14I have got my memory dividends, right? Bill business, I
- 31:17have no regrets. But the only memory gym I hadn't created was two
- 31:21things, children, again, which we work on, but also the car. So it's like, that
- 31:24makes sense to me. So I'm taking this on. And what's happening is,
- 31:28after it is, I'm coaching myself. So I coach people when
- 31:31it comes to money, right? In our education business, mentoring, coaching, and
- 31:34education. Learning how to let go of money and give and receive
- 31:38and all these things. So part of that process is I'm walking around from the gym
- 31:41and I'm coaching myself. on this, the Bill
- 31:44Perkins stuff. And so all those things meshed
- 31:48into one, and I just stopped, and I just called Maria.
- 31:52And she said, hello. I said, how are you going? She goes, I said, let's
- 31:55get a car. So I said, there's one in Melbourne I want. Here it is.
- 31:58She said, hey, you wouldn't believe this. Now, this
- 32:01is actually true, but this is what happened. She said, hey, you wouldn't believe
- 32:05this. But a 488 Spy has just come
- 32:08in cosignment, which is where someone sells it through the dealership, to us
- 32:11today. And I was like, favored by God, blessed,
- 32:15right? She said, would you like the one in Melbourne? You got to put it on a truck and
- 32:18bring it up? Or do you want to come and look at this one? I said,
- 32:22send me photos. She sent me photos. And I was like, beautiful. I
- 32:25was like, Can we come and see it this Saturday?" She's like, yes. I'm like, sick. I
- 32:29didn't tell my wife. So for all of you out there who think you need permission from your spouse to
- 32:32buy anything, you don't. I don't know why you would. Whatever
- 32:35excuse. So get an
- 32:39indication from them before you propose, right? Get an indication of things, but
- 32:42you don't have to ask permission. So I was like, okay, hold it for me. She's
- 32:45like, okay. I said, my wife jumped in the car. We went up to Brisbane together in, in
- 32:48the range. We drove up there and she was onto it. She's like, why
- 32:52are you driving to Brisbane on a Saturday? You hate Brisbane. What
- 32:55the hell's going on? I was like, that's fair. So we got there and walked in the back and
- 32:58there it was. And I was like, there's that car, had a little dog with us. And
- 33:02she said, is that ours? I'm like, it can be, we're gonna buy
- 33:05it. She goes, how? And we, boom, bought on the spot,
- 33:08I'll take it. Didn't negotiate, didn't, cause I want
- 33:11to build a relationship with Ferrari. And you don't do that by negotiating like
- 33:15a dickhead. Like you just don't. You don't negotiate with Ferrari. They decided
- 33:18to do a couple of things for me. I know it's a done deal. Like I looked at it, I knew what
- 33:22price of Ferraris were, et cetera. I'd done enough research. And I was like, done deal.
- 33:25And so when we went back there through, it was late to pick it up. We had got the plate they put on
- 33:28for us and they'd covered it. And we walked in and had that experience
- 33:32that I have talked about before that, that it's not about putting
- 33:36that on. So like I bought a car. I want you to know, it's exciting
- 33:40if you buy a car, I get it, felt the same with our own driver. But when you get
- 33:44it with debt, and you can't afford it, and you're just doing it for the
- 33:47validation of social media, not ideal. But if you've really worked hard for it, and
- 33:50you're buying it cash, and it's an easy decision, and it's a fun experience.
- 33:54We took our niece and nephew up, and it took family to experience it with us, because it's a fun
- 33:57thing. And you've gone through it like that, sure, at some point, if you want to post
- 34:00it. But when I did that, I'm trying to impart a lesson. in
- 34:04it, because you don't want to be one big dick pic. So even today, we've got the car behind
- 34:07us on a YouTube clip, and I'm sure there's going to be sick clips
- 34:10that the team's going to put up on Insta. And I
- 34:13want to make sure there's some lessons in this for you, because I don't want it just to
- 34:17be like, look what I have, you don't have it. I don't want that. That's what
- 34:20prompted me to buy it. That's how you should buy it, I think. And
- 34:25the experience so far is unbelievable. Not
- 34:30only does it raise your own standards in your business, in how you
- 34:33do things, it raises your standards. The car has got magic powers,
- 34:36my wife says. It does things. Like, I'm at the car wash yesterday and two
- 34:39guys are out there giving me a bit. It's just, it's insane how attractive
- 34:43it is for people because there's a saying by Napoleon. He
- 34:47used to say in his book, The Mind of Napoleon, he would say, winning
- 34:50solves everything. It's such a powerful statement.
- 34:54And so when someone sees a Ferrari, they're like, that person wins because
- 34:58Ferrari wins. They've built a brand on winning, right?
- 35:02So if you're in business or if you're in life, there's nothing wrong in
- 35:06life with winning because it solves everything with your money, with
- 35:09your investing, with your spouse, with your business, with your body.
- 35:13Win, win and win because it solves everything. Now, if you're a shitty
- 35:16person and you win, you can be a bigger dick because all winning
- 35:20does if you're a dick is just scale your dickness. But
- 35:23if you're a good person, you got integrity, you like win-win outcomes for
- 35:26people, you can inspire them, you help them, then winning
- 35:30is important for you because you can change the world. You can level up people. You
- 35:33can raise the level of consciousness. You should want to win. Winning
- 35:37solves everything. But when you have a car like a Ferrari, because
- 35:40that is a winning culture of Ferrari with their F1 brand,
- 35:44they win. So when people see you, they know you win. And
- 35:48people want to be around winning because winning is better than losing.
- 35:51Now, losing is part of the process. You have to lose on the
- 35:54journey. You have to. but that's the beauty of the
- 35:58motor race now because of course they don't win all the time but they have
- 36:01an objective to win and when people see a ferrari like young
- 36:04kids i took on the weekend i took six kids on a quick spurt ride
- 36:08because if i want to inspire them when they get i would have loved that when
- 36:12i was six to go in a ferrari Even the adults, and there was one of
- 36:15my friends, he didn't want to get in, I said, Matt, get in the car, let's go for a drive. And he said to me,
- 36:18I wasn't going to get in, but I'm glad I did. And we had this great conversation, and he said, the
- 36:21car has enabled this great one-on-one experience. I'm like, the
- 36:24car does that. It brings people to you. It allows you
- 36:27to build a better community. It connects you. I have had conversations
- 36:31with people that we wouldn't have not had the car. So
- 36:34not only does it level up your brand, it levels up who you are. When you buy
- 36:38one, you step up to a new level in your business. Your standards just go
- 36:41up to another level. Now I've got to live into these standards that Ferrari has, and they have
- 36:44extremely high standards. Then you connect with people.
- 36:50You have to do it to experience it. So people say
- 36:53to me, oh, it's going to level out your brand. But I actually feel like it's
- 36:56elevated my ability to connect with people. It's
- 37:00elevated my fun in my life. We have had put a thousand K's on it and
- 37:03flipped them on. Now, I don't encourage that, but when you get it, you
- 37:06don't also want to not know how to drive it. Cause my dad has this saying, he
- 37:09says, what are you saving it for the next person? I don't buy the
- 37:12car to save it for the next person. I bought the car to have fun. There's a kid that a
- 37:1517 year old, he reached out to me on Instagram. He said, Lloyd, can I photograph your car? I'm like, that's pretty
- 37:19ballsy. Cool. Yeah, you're in. He says, cool. Rocked up there. He was on time. He
- 37:22just showed all these great standards. And little as you know, I'm going to actually refer him into these
- 37:25guys and see if I can get him a gig here. Cause he lives down here. But he created an opportunity for
- 37:28himself. And he said to me, I have a photograph of all these amazing cars, and only one
- 37:32person's taking it for a drive. I was like, really? Man, let's go for
- 37:35a drive. So I took him for a drive. So it's getting people to experience
- 37:39this has been so fun. So if you see this car anywhere
- 37:43on the street, you see it, take a selfie with it, participate in
- 37:47it, have fun with it. The car will, it's its own
- 37:50personality. I feel like it'd have its own flipping YouTube channel. And
- 37:54it knows. It knows. So if you see it around, I just want you to
- 37:57know now, you know the story behind it. It wasn't easy to get.
- 38:01It took me 20 years to be an overnight success. I grinded through
- 38:04it. I saved. I did all the right things. And it was that
- 38:07little bit of a health scare and some friends of mine giving me
- 38:10things like Bill Perkins and my brother. You're going to die one
- 38:14day. The mortality thing comes. And so if you
- 38:18are in a position This guy actually the other day, he's like, I've got 11 million now.
- 38:21I'm like, fucking who cares? Then what? Who gives a
- 38:25shit? I'm nowhere near the richest person. Do I want to be? I don't give a fuck. I
- 38:28don't care. It's just so irrelevant. What are you collecting numbers?
- 38:32Are you collecting digits on a screen? Don't be crazy
- 38:36and get a huge debt and you can't afford it, don't do it. That don't make sense. But if you're someone
- 38:39who's been successful and you're rich and you've got
- 38:43a fuck ton of money and you're there and you're just collecting it and
- 38:46you're a car person, go buy the flipping car. Get
- 38:49it, you're probably wealthier than me, just go do it. Because life is
- 38:53a daring adventure or nothing at all. You're not collecting money,
- 38:56you can't take it with you. But I tell you what, the memory dividends you can make with
- 38:59a car like this and the things you can do, it is so worth
- 39:03the money. I haven't even thought about the money. Not once.
- 39:06I already feel like I got my deal. I'm well ahead. I feel like
- 39:09that. So I hope this episode's been insightful. I hope you've enjoyed
- 39:13the stories. I hope you've seen and taken some lessons away from all
- 39:16those things I shared. It is a long one. But I only get one chance to do this properly
- 39:20with you. So if you've enjoyed that, let me know in the comments. If you've got questions about
- 39:23this, let me know in the comments. Or if you think I'm just an absolute wanker, come and fight
- 39:26me in the comments. I don't mind. But either which way, this has been a fun episode.
- 39:30I hope it makes sense and I'll see you in the next one. Oh, hit the subscribe button. See