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"The Spirit and Spark" of Psychic & Medium- Dallisa Hocking · Caught on the Mike...

• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: Not much, not much.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: We were having a fun little banter before the uh before the record button got pressed.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: How are you doing out there?
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: How's how's life returning to normalcy for you right now?
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh boy, you're asking a fifth generation psychic medium if her life is normal.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's never really normal.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and every day I'm talking to different spirits and clients.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, I I really have a virtual uh nationwide business at this point.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: So uh every day is a little bit different, a little bit of spice of life, right?
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it got hot in Vegas, though.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I felt like it was pretty mild.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: And then I walked outside yesterday.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, what happened?
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: It has been so unseasonably cool where I'm at.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in Lincoln, Nebraska.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it's been so unseasonably cool.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, when is summer gonna get here?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll come to Vegas.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's here.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: So you kind of already set the segue, like you handed it to me on a silver platter.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Let's uh tell our listeners a little bit about who you are and what your background is, and uh, you know, fire away.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is not what I thought I would be doing for a living.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: Let's start there.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I did grow up in a very spiritual family.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: And my dad's side of the family, he comes from a lineage of his mom uh being able to see spirit and make predictions and her grandmother.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: So we can trace it back at least five generations.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: But professionally, I had a you know great job in the casino industry in Vegas.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: I was an executive at the cosmopolitan.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: That was like the last gig I had.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember just sitting in my office thinking, this is not what I'm supposed to be doing.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I didn't have the gifts that my grandmother had, or at least I didn't think so.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: I was always just kind of intuitive and felt things, but never did I see an apparition walk through my living room, you know?
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I quit my job and I traveled for a little bit, ended up going to Texas, Fort Worth.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I worked for a business school planning event.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: I actually started a matchmaking and dating events company while I was living in Fort Worth.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: And while I was there, I ended up going to a trip.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna really give you the short version here, but I ended up going and booking a trip to New York kind of last minute to attend a workshop on synchronicity, which is the belief that everything happens for a reason, there's divine order, you know, the life is a maybe a piece of orchestrated music, right?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: The the ebbs and and the the dips and the way that things flow.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, go up there.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: And during that trip, it was fantastic, heard from people who had studied synchronicity and the data behind it.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because some people will say, oh, well, you know, uh it was just an accident.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so they they broke it down for us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, on the trip, ironically, a trip on synchronicity, I was staying on campus most of the time, but I knew a gentleman from the cosmopolitan who was a consultant who just so happened to have a house in the middle of the woods next to this retreat center.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: And he said, Oh, just come stay with me.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a big deal, you know, stay the last night.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I I finish up the retreat, I go to his house, I'm having dinner, watching a movie, save by the bell, the unauthorized movie, in case anyone's wondering.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: It was amazing.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and the phone rings.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: So Peter gets the phone, my friend, and he gets the call while I'm sitting there that his aunt that he was very close with had unexpectedly passed away.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: She had just fallen down a flight of stairs, and they were calling to let him know that she passed.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I give Peter my condolences, you know.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know his family, I don't know her.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I go to bed and he goes upstairs and he goes to bed.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: And wouldn't you know, that night while I'm sleeping, his aunt comes to me that had just passed away and said, Hey, I need you to do me a favor.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: I need you to tell my nephew I'm okay.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: I made it to the other side.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, I wake up the next morning and I'm like, wait, what just happened?
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like you're rubbing your eyes.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, oh my God, this is what my grandmother used to tell me about all the time.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'd be a little kid in her living room, half terrified and half curious, wondering, like, what did grandma Ellie see last night?
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: Now it happened to me.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, go in the kitchen.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: I tell Peter.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, hey, listen, your aunt came through, here's what happened.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: I tell him the story.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: And he turned to me and he said, Really?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: What did she look like?
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of testing me, right?
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I describe her, her hair, and he's like, That's her.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, I'm gonna fly back to Texas.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's great seeing you, you know.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: But then my mind just started turning.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, if his Aunt Barbara just came through, who else have I been missing, you know, along the way?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so I started to develop it.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I would really, in a simplified way, sit down with uh headphones on, meditation music.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'd put, you know, somebody's name at the top of a piece of paper, and I would just close my eyes and breathe.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: And whatever came forward, whatever I was sensing, I'd write it down.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then I would deliver the messages to the person.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, How did you know that?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody knows that.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, something's happening here.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I ended up uh quitting my company, quitting my job, moving back to Vegas.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: I thought, if I'm gonna try it as a psychic medium, I need to live near family because my dad can cook, they have a hot shower, like I can be near my parents.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: And uh the rest is history.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: I moved back to Vegas and I worked for a woman out of her shop, and I started to get a pretty lengthy waiting list.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: So then I thought the business brain kicked in because I was a serial entrepreneur.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'd owned all these different companies over the years.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, well, shoot, if I can't get to all these people, what if I found really good readers and I could help like create a bit of a network?
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so it started uh in that one room in that woman's shop, turned into a brick and mortar location with a team.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then I turned it into a virtual company where now I have readers all across the country.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: That is fantastic.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: So was that your first actual memory of experiencing these gifts?
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: Or in hindsight, after that happened, did you kind of like run the gamut of previous experiences and say, hey, you know, maybe this happened here?
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: Or you kind of get what I'm saying?
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I would say that night in New York was the game changer.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's what shifted everything.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: I I think when I've thought about that, it's because I was in meditation for a few days, you know, off and on.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: I was around a lot of like-minded people.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Peter's house is in the middle of the forest where nature in high vibration is.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I think I was just the perfect opening and portal to receive the message.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I loved my grandmother dearly.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: She was actually getting ready to make her transition to the other side.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so I find it a bit ironic that she, in essence, kind of passed the torch to me.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I'm sure on the other side, she, I mean, because she'll help with sessions and stuff.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: She'll step in as a spirit and help me like figure out what people are trying to tell me.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so she was very active there.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: But while she was alive, she never saw any of this really take place.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: She didn't know, you know, in a in a physical sense what I had gone on to do.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because then I ended up having a show that I was headlining in Las Vegas right before the pandemic occurred.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: And um, but thinking back, I feel like I had some gut feelings.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: I remember um an old boyfriend of mine, his dad had passed away, and I hadn't talked to this ex in a while.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I got news that his dad had passed away, and I knew his dad and had spent uh, you know, a little bit of time with him and got to know him a little bit.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember sitting, this is years ago, sitting in my bedroom, and I could feel him walk into the room.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember that I still chills as I talk about it, right?
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: But this experience with Peter's Aunt Barbara was like the whole wheels of the bus fell off.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, wait a second, this is gonna completely derail everything I've been doing professionally.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because now, if I'm gonna do this, I have to go publicly and say, hey, uh, yeah, you know everything I've been doing, scratch that.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a psychic medium now.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: And not only a psychic medium, but now you're leading a network of psychic mediums.
• 10:26
  unknown: Yeah.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: So how do you how do you vet uh some of the people that are in your network?
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, great question.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of companies don't do this.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like if you're gonna work for my company and represent my brand, you better be good.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I have people that'll often say, Oh, you know, I want to read, I want to do tarot cards, I want to be an astrologer, whatever it is, whatever their modality is.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I do a Zoom video with them.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I say, All right, do a session for me.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, and so some people get really scared and intimidated.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: I actually think I'm probably the easiest person to read because I'm so open.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but they have to get through the entire full-length session, and I have to know that they're truly connected to my energy and picking up on information that's valid.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then if they do, then they're invited to come uh and join the team.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how it works.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: So is there something about a person's I would say personality profile that kind of aligns with having psychic or medium abilities that like you know, we're all cut from a different cloth to a certain extent, right?
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: So what is uh what what is the personality profile of a psychic like?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: They're usually very sensitive to emotions.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: And you can call it empathic.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, some people have heard that term.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: So you you can kind of know or identify if you're empathic.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you walk into, let's say you walk into a party.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: And you can start to sense as you're walking around the party who's happy, who's angry, you know, and you're kind of feeling that in your own body, that is actually a psychic ability.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: So that would be the first clue that you can develop.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I think anybody can develop into a modality, whether it's being a psychic or a medium, card reader, whatever it is.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's just like a muscle.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: So, like any muscle, you've got to work it in order to tone it and make it work with you.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I would say the emotions, the sensitivity to emotions, I heard once heard the price of being sensitive is being sensitive.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, imagine I'm doing readings for clients during the day, and then something happens in my personal life, and I'm probably I feel it.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna say I probably I do, I feel it a lot more than your average person would.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, it is probably why I'm 40 and single.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Not because I'm a train wreck by any means, but I am so sensitive to what's happening.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: And the men that date me know, like, oh, she's gonna know like everything that's going on.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so I have to make sure that I'm in a relationship with somebody who's very transparent, um, can just be completely honest and have really frank conversations and not be afraid of that.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: If somebody's trying to hide something, whether romantic or a friendship or a work situation, they generally like to steer clear of me.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna ask you like, how do you differentiate between your skills as a medium or just being very hypersensitive to social cues?
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how do you differentiate those two?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for the most part, I can successfully go into a group setting or a concert or, you know, go on a trip, a cruise ship, whatever it is, right?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's all about frequency.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so if I know that I'm going into a group situation or I'm off duty, I can just settle into the energy and bring my energy back down.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: But if I need to raise my frequency in order to do a session, there's different things I can do.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I can chant, I could listen to meditation music, I could put on essential oils in different chakra points of the body, drinking a lot of water.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there's things that I can do to amp it up.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm very conscious that when I'm not on duty, I bring it back down.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, the guides that I work with on the other side, they're pretty respectful.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: They know not to bring me information or things when I'm not working, because frankly, when I'm working, it feels like I'm sticking my finger in a light socket because I'm running energy through my entire body in order to be that conduit and to bring forward information.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so you can't keep that level of energy drain going 24-7, or you'll just crash and burn.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's why sometimes you'll hear about psychics like they'll work for a year, two years, three years, and then they do something else.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: And it's because they've burned themselves out more than likely.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, absolutely.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: So coming off of a year like 2020 was, and you know, good chunk of 2021 has been, um, people are a lot more sensitive to the idea of mortality.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: So, have you noticed an uptick in in business and consultations because of this?
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: In 2019, I was actually reminded of this a couple of weeks ago.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: I was having lunch with somebody who used to work for me.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, and he said, Do you remember the pep talk she used to give us in 2019?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Well, what did I say?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, because the the way that my messages work is it flows through me.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't necessarily hold on to it.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: I might remember 5% of a reading after it's done.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he said, Oh, yeah, well, in 2019, you you told all of us that we needed to get ready because 2020 was gonna be a year like we've never seen, and people were gonna need us more than ever before.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: And it was gonna get really rough, really rocky, and to just prepare ourselves for what was to come.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: And that I had predicted all these, you know, food shortages and issues with worldwide medical stuff.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh yeah, that's right.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you don't think about it because you're like going through it then.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, I did.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: I saw a lot of that in 2019.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: So 2020, I would say that there was a lot of like fear at first because people didn't know am I gonna have enough money?
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: Am I gonna have enough food?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: So there was a there was a lot of survival mode going on at first.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: But then the later you got into 2020, and for sure 2021, people are gangbusters wanting to know, well, what should I do?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people are moving, a lot of people are breaking up right now, and they want to know what's the best pathway forward.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm getting a lot of requests for people that want psychic readings, which is the predictive uh reading, and then the mediumship where they actually want to hear from somebody on the other side.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that is also increased because people want a little bit of hope.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: They want to hear from a mother, a grandmother, whoever they were close to, to say it's gonna be okay.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so it helps kind of subside that fear, but absolutely um it's been the busiest we've ever been.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: You look at the COVID-19 pandemic, it's been so politicized when it's it's a public health crisis, it's not a political crisis, but the recovery of COVID-19 is a mental health crisis.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: But the thing that everybody forgets about is the spiritual side of it.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: How are you going to come out of this and be a whole person?
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: And that's your connectivity with your physical health, your mental health, and everything that's going on around you and how you uh adapt to that.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: Has there ever been a time where you've surprised yourself with a reading?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a good question.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the one that that pops in immediately uh was one actually very early on in my career.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I sat down in the room, the lady comes in, I didn't know her, and she said, Oh, yeah, I found you online.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, perfect.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Sit down.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: What would what would you like to do today?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I want to do mediumship.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's go ahead.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because I've got to actually adjust the frequency higher if it's for mediumship.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I sit down, I close my eyes and take a few deep breaths, and I start seeing this like horrifying thing play out in front of me.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: I I see people running and I see uh gun and I see um, you know, lots of of really horrifying uh symbols and imagery that's playing out like a daydream in front of me.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm describing all this to her.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: And it turns out that her friend had just died in the one October shootings uh in Las Vegas.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: And he came through, said, you know, had messages for her, and um it hit me harder than any reading I've ever done.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I I cried the whole way home.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, our community was was really uh in a hard, hard spot after that.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I have a close family member that works for the police department in Las Vegas, and so it hit really close to home.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I I felt honored and humbled that I guess I was selected to deliver these messages from him, even though he had just passed away a few days before.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that she knew exactly who it was, the messages made sense, and and that it gave her some peace to know that her friend, even though he was trying to help save people at the concert, that even though he was killed, that he still lived on, you know, in a different way, of course, but that there was peace there.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: So whenever you experience things like that, who do you turn to when you feel stuck?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great question.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I had an amazing mentor who unexpectedly passed away in September.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'd usually go to her and talk through it.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: I have another mentor who lives in North Carolina and I and I talk to her, you know, about what's going on.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I like to go into meditation.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I can be introspective enough to figure out what's going on or how to release it.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, working with my grandmother and spirit guides to help me let it go.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, luckily, you know, I have a really amazing people that work for my company.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so I can say, hey, can I talk this through with you?
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I also have a private members-only group um called the Spark Plug.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: And we do, I did a Zoom session earlier today, and I jump on and we just talk.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody who wants to can just jump on and we actually talk about what's happening in the world so that people aren't afraid.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I can sit there and say, listen, it's probably gonna get worse before it gets better.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not to make you more fearful, but it's to help you prepare your mindset and to help you get, you know, extra water, gas in your car, make sure you have non-perishable food on hand and get everything ready so that when something does happen, you're not gonna be as fearful as the people who aren't maybe paying attention or listening to their intuition.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we do that.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's called real talk.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: We do that once a month.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that helps.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: It helps me to get it out and to talk about it, but it also helps them because they can uh feel connected to a community.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, absolutely.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's elevating your conscientiousness.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: So what would be what does a typical, typical meditative practice look like for you?
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, great question.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: I actually just recorded a 21-day meditation challenge for my members.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think they're about a third of the way through.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I use what I like to do to do the meditations for them, except their meditations are about 10 minutes.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: So that is great and perfect.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of the research around meditation says that the maximum benefit comes when you do meditation for 20 minutes.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm of a mindset I'd rather have you do two minutes than nothing at all.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it's amazing what you can do when you can set your timer on your phone for two minutes and you close your eyes, you sit in a chair, put your feet on the ground and just focus on your breath for two minutes.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: It will completely change your energy.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: One thing that I like to do is uh breathe in and say to myself the word let and breathe out of my mouth and say to myself the word the word go.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: So let go, let go, like over and over until I feel like the energy has lifted.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: And the good news is you can do that anywhere, right?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're at the grocery store and somebody's getting on your nerves and you could just let go, let go until until you bring it back down.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love guided meditation that's generally what I teach and that's taking people into you know a mountain or to the forest and okay now you're walking through I find that that's for me the easiest method of meditation because if I'm taking a class and I'm listening to someone's voice I can follow along with them.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: And the story and I start to become one and that just makes it so much easier.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: So start where you're at you don't have to be perfect at it and you're not going to screw it up.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: So in the past year I know for myself uptick in anxiety everything that's gone on I as I'm sure it is for many people.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of my meditative practices happen right before bedtime, putting on rain sounds, just laying back nice cool room, breathing, just listening to sound and just taking myself out of mentally out of where I'm at and putting myself someplace else.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's something that works well for me.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: What's more harmful for your industry is it skeptics or is it frauds?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh frauds frauds for sure because there's so many people that claim to be a healer, a fortune teller like I've heard so many stories in Las Vegas is inundated.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: They'll say oh come in I'll do a session for 25 bucks whatever it is you get there and then they're like oh you have this curse or you have this being attached to you and you're going to pay me$500 and I'll get rid of it.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that is standard like it's so many different pockets of Las Vegas but also around the country and it's so unfortunate because people actually think that they have a problem and that and then they pay it because they think they have to and it's a total scam.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I would say the people that are that are fraudulent give us a really bad name.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just it's it's bad it's terrible right so like in Las Vegas you have to go through hoops upon hoops to even get a license to do readings here because it's so fraudulent.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: The skeptics I can deal with and I usually don't get a lot of skeptics these days um but I will say you know I was at an event I remember this guy came up to me this is a long time ago and uh I was doing readings and you know kind of like 10 minute mini readings and he came up and he's like all right show me what you've got I don't believe in any of this stuff.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like I closed my eyes I looked I did get a I remember I got a few messages but I don't remember what the messages were I say it to him and he just completely destroys everything I said and I said you can you can get up and walk away now I'm not gonna do any more for you.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I shut him down and I think once I actually started sticking up for myself and not putting up with the skeptics I see it's like the universe said okay Delisa you learned your lesson we won't send you as many anymore.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah I it's the frauds for sure.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely I was just going to ask you how you handled the skeptics and you just answered that question perfectly.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah and I've been asked about that before on TV like when the media usually interviews me they're like well how do you handle the skeptics and I say it doesn't matter.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right it legitimately doesn't matter if somebody believes me or not because your opinion of me changes nothing right about my gifts and and what I'm doing for people.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: So you can sit there and be a skeptic but I don't care.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: For my day job I manage people and one of the things I talk about in my day job is or one of my lines is you are an individual but so is everybody else.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: So we won't talk we're not going to talk about religion we're not going to talk about politics because your ideals might be different than mine and that's perfectly okay.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: So what do you think your mission in life is overall oh boy I've had my astrology chart done so many times by astrologers I think I I think I figured it out now right it's it's one of those things that you look back on your life and you go oh wow they were trying to like get me here the whole time you know uh actually quite literally my astrology chart is all about like being a psychic being a medium like it it'd be it's comical really um so if I had it done when I was a kid I think I would have known right but um I think that that spirit the universe had to get me through different periods of my life to learn different things and and own different businesses and meet different kinds of people in order to get me positioned to actually do this job really well.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: So everything that I did before this in hindsight feels like a warm-up.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I would tell your listeners with that that anything that they've been through in their life it's not wasted.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know I hear all the time like from people oh I want to I want to be a healer or I want to go back to school and do X, Y, and Z, but I don't I don't know if I can, you know, I've made so many mistakes I have so much debt whatever the excuse is right but I feel like everything that you've been through in your life is preparing you for what's to come and if you can keep that mindset and that perspective you can do anything you want but we are usually our own worst enemies and we are self-sabotaging on the regular so if we can just get the heck out of our way and set a goal and actually take steps each day to get there and believe that we're worth it, believe that we can have it we can legitimately have anything.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I was thinking about this today we are already in the sixth month of 2021 could you believe it no if you were to offer a reading for the state of the world for the the remainder of the year what would you say?
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh boy I hope everyone's just listening to this with a a grain of salt and a big smile on their face and knowing that we're going to get through this okay because sometimes what I predict because I do a weekly prediction show on YouTube and what I will often say at least lately has felt a bit dense a bit negative um but what I feel is happening is we're going through a lot of breakdowns that's going to lead to the breakthrough.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: In the Tro deck there's a there's a card called the tower.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: So when I was pulling a card to represent 2021 the tower is the card that I pulled.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: So some of your listeners might know what that card is but it's basically a picture of a tower burning to the ground and people jumping off of it.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I was shuffling and that's the card that came out and it's basically the energy of your world is going to shift.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Things around you are going to change you are going to go through a lot of transformation.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: The people around you are going to go through a lot of transformation.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine that everyone's homes are burning down symbolically of course and everyone's gonna handle that stress and that trauma differently and so some people are going to be expressing that through anger and rage.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: Some people are going to be showing that through compassion and really trying to do something good for their communities.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna see it play out you know in different ways depending on on who we're around but I do think for the rest of this year we've really got to watch um food um and food shortages which is really peculiar because earlier today um I was talking about the ransomware on my member Zoom and I said I I I heard when that happened the first time with that oil, um the oil uh pipelines I heard clear audience through my ear that it was practice and that there was going to be more they wanted to see what would happen and what they would get.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so you know even today there was an announcement that one happened right another one uh suspected to be the same groups I think we're gonna be seeing more of that.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um earthquakes keep popping in uh like major I really feel like there's gonna be some some big uh earth uh natural disasters this year that are gonna unfortunately um not bode well for the locations that they're in uh let's see what else yeah it's gonna get funky with uh and I'm not I am not a financial analyst I am not a real estate agent and I know that real estate's really hot you know but something does not quite feel right with that and when I look at the energy it feels that people are going to start to get really angry because some of the things that they've been partaking in are no longer going to be there or what it was is shifting.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: So whether it's rent or unemployment so people are going to handle that stress differently.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm seeing a lot of escalation in anger and violence unfortunately and I do feel that there's a lot of international eyes on us as an easy target.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I do think that there are people within our own country that are also seeing us as an easy target.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna get hit from like a couple of different directions this year, but I don't want people to be afraid I just want them to recognize that in my opinion we all decided to be here right now like before when we were on the other side because really we're just on our way home right so like when we were on the other side and we said hey listen I want to go in for 2020 2021 2022 and all everybody standing around the spirits were like but I want to go in so you have to kind of have the perspective that you opted in to come right now because the amount of growth and soul acceleration that you will have last year, this year, the next couple of years is going to be like nothing we've ever seen before.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're all tearing it all down so we can build it back up better than what it was before.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah we're gonna be the Phoenix rising this has been fantastic.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: So tell my listeners where they can find you online.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah spiritandspark.com is the website over on YouTube Spirit and Spark TV and uh Facebook and Instagram also at Spirit and Spark.
• 34:13
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• 34:27
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• 34:33
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• 34:39
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• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome we have to do this again you will you be on the show again oh heck yeah we definitely need to talk about it because this world's gonna just get topsy turvy so we need to let your listeners know what's coming absolutely absolutely well thank you very much Delisa I I have I appreciate you coming on the show and uh I'm glad to meet you yeah you rock Mike thanks for having me on this age