Latest / Foul Territory / Adam Ottavino on being DFA’d TWICE in a week by Yankees
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's a unique situation, like I'm not going to sign
- 0:01Speaker 1: a my league deal, so you're gonna bring me to
- 0:05Speaker 1: the big league team, whether it's on a forty five
- 0:06Speaker 1: day consent or whatever, or you're not.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Hey, this show does this and we have never really
- 0:17Speaker 2: seen it in base doctor's office joining us right now,
- 0:21Speaker 2: what what are we sore?
- 0:23Speaker 1: Throw?
- 0:23Speaker 3: What do we got here? I'm just older. Yeah, I'm
- 0:27Speaker 3: just using. I'm just using this room. That's all.
- 0:31Speaker 4: There's just a room. There's just a room with like
- 0:33Speaker 4: body parts and muscles and everything. I feel like, I
- 0:36Speaker 4: feel like I'm I need like to be ice down
- 0:39Speaker 4: after you're sitting in this room.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a deal, but I've at Cressy's place
- 0:45Speaker 1: down here in Florida and I needed a room to
- 0:47Speaker 1: do this, and so they stuck me in the in
- 0:50Speaker 1: this room.
- 0:51Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 0:52Speaker 4: I think it's fine.
- 0:53Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. Anyway, Adam, thank you for joining
- 0:56Speaker 2: us so on this show. We've had players on, you
- 0:58Speaker 2: know after they've been saying designated for assignment, which I
- 1:01Speaker 2: know you just went through and really appreciated. And there
- 1:04Speaker 2: are a lot of players that will send us notes
- 1:06Speaker 2: right it's pros even minor league players like, Hey, it
- 1:09Speaker 2: really helped to hear from Kevin Plarer last year when
- 1:11Speaker 2: he went through that. Uh so a rowdy soon after
- 1:14Speaker 2: that happened to him last year.
- 1:15Speaker 3: So I'll let you.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Take the floor first. Can you take us through what
- 1:20Speaker 2: the last few weeks have been like for you in baseball?
- 1:26Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, good to see you guys. Yeah. I was
- 1:30Speaker 3: in camp with the Red Sox.
- 1:31Speaker 1: I signed a deal as an NRI over there and
- 1:35Speaker 1: didn't make the team. So I thought about it for
- 1:38Speaker 1: a couple of minutes and decided to opt out.
- 1:40Speaker 3: I had to opt out of my contracts. I had
- 1:41Speaker 3: opped out, become a free agent.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Didn't want to go to didn't want to go to
- 1:45Speaker 1: the minor leagues, didn't want to stick in four They
- 1:48Speaker 1: wanted me to stick a four Myers for seven.
- 1:50Speaker 3: To ten days and kind of evaluate me at that point,
- 1:53Speaker 3: but I wanted to I don't know. I didn't want
- 1:55Speaker 3: to do that.
- 1:56Speaker 1: So I became a free agent, came down here to well,
- 2:01Speaker 1: drove over here at the time, from four Myers to
- 2:03Speaker 1: Palm Beach area so I could keep throwing, stay active
- 2:08Speaker 1: in case somebody was going to grab me. In the
- 2:09Speaker 1: first week of the season that ended up happening, ended
- 2:13Speaker 1: up going up with the Yankees when Devin Williams went
- 2:15Speaker 1: on paternity list. I was there for three days, so
- 2:17Speaker 1: I kind of knew what it was. I got da
- 2:20Speaker 1: fade after that, stayed on ice for three days waiting
- 2:24Speaker 1: to see what would happen with waivers. Didn't get claimed,
- 2:27Speaker 1: went back to free agency, tried to come up with
- 2:31Speaker 1: a game plan, and then before I could even come
- 2:33Speaker 1: up with a game plan, they called me for one
- 2:35Speaker 1: day yesterday. So I flew to Detroit, pitched yesterday, got
- 2:38Speaker 1: dea fade right after the game, flew home, decided to
- 2:42Speaker 1: come back down here, and so now I'm down here again.
- 2:45Speaker 3: And that's about it.
- 2:47Speaker 4: Every time you sign, just so people know, like you,
- 2:50Speaker 4: you're signing a forty five day consent, which is something
- 2:55Speaker 4: that fans don't really know about, Like teams make players
- 2:58Speaker 4: sign forty five days consent where you're going to be
- 3:02Speaker 4: in the big leagues, but your money's not guaranteed, so
- 3:05Speaker 4: you're essentially on a day rate. And did they make
- 3:08Speaker 4: you sign that both times or is there like a
- 3:10Speaker 4: limitation to how many times you can sign that.
- 3:15Speaker 1: I don't think there is a limit, but I did
- 3:17Speaker 1: I just signed both times. Obviously that's the best situation
- 3:21Speaker 1: for them. They're not committed to anything, and you know,
- 3:23Speaker 1: it gets me back in the door. Obviously. I think
- 3:26Speaker 1: it claimed on waivers, which would have been a little
- 3:28Speaker 1: bit of a different situation because then that team would
- 3:31Speaker 1: have been responsible for guaranteed money for the rest of
- 3:34Speaker 1: the year. So maybe that has something to do with it.
- 3:37Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, forty five day consent, so
- 3:41Speaker 1: you kind of know going in that it's going to
- 3:42Speaker 1: be a long shot stick around.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Adam.
- 3:46Speaker 5: First of all, I mean so much props for you
- 3:48Speaker 5: for coming on today, because this is things if fans
- 3:51Speaker 5: don't hear about. They they see Juan Soto signing for
- 3:53Speaker 5: seven hundred and sixty five million, but they don't hear
- 3:56Speaker 5: about when you know guys are going through what you're
- 3:58Speaker 5: going through. So I'm just saying super props for you
- 4:01Speaker 5: for coming on. We really appreciate it, because I want
- 4:03Speaker 5: people to know what this life is really like, not.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Just like the things you see that are all everything
- 4:08Speaker 3: is great.
- 4:09Speaker 5: What I want to know is is when you left
- 4:11Speaker 5: the Red Sox and you went back to the Yankees
- 4:13Speaker 5: and you kind of knew it was gonna be a
- 4:14Speaker 5: short But they called you in, didn't They dfa you,
- 4:17Speaker 5: then call you back and then release you, like explain
- 4:20Speaker 5: to fans what happened and how that kind of worked.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Devin Williams was on paternitial list that only
- 4:28Speaker 1: lasts three days, so I knew he was coming back.
- 4:30Speaker 3: So clock was ticking. Obviously, something could happen there.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Somebody could get hurt or underperformed, and they could change
- 4:36Speaker 1: their mind and keep you around. But at the same time,
- 4:40Speaker 1: I kind of knew that, you know, it was going
- 4:42Speaker 1: to be a short stay.
- 4:43Speaker 3: More than likely. They were upfront with that. They were
- 4:45Speaker 3: great to me.
- 4:46Speaker 1: I have a good relationship with those people over there,
- 4:48Speaker 1: a lot of love for them, and so you know,
- 4:50Speaker 1: I talked to Boonie when they dfae me and he
- 4:52Speaker 1: told me to keep going. You know, it's kind of
- 4:55Speaker 1: on the fence at that moment. But you know, it
- 4:58Speaker 1: was great. I knew what it was. I tried to
- 5:00Speaker 1: enjoy the three days I was there. I pitched in
- 5:02Speaker 1: two of the games.
- 5:03Speaker 3: It was great.
- 5:03Speaker 1: You know, I never saw myself back in pinstripes again,
- 5:05Speaker 1: to be honest, and it felt great. If something that was,
- 5:09Speaker 1: you know, pretty special and then I ended up getting
- 5:11Speaker 1: another day yesterday in Detroit, kind of out of nowhere.
- 5:14Speaker 1: So you know, every day in the big leagues is precious.
- 5:17Speaker 1: I've had a lot of them, but I don't take
- 5:20Speaker 1: them for granted. And yeah, it's a weird situation, but
- 5:23Speaker 1: I think I handled it as good as you can,
- 5:27Speaker 1: went in there and did what I could.
- 5:29Speaker 5: For those three days. Were you like partying? Were you like, man,
- 5:32Speaker 5: this could be it? Like, I know, I got three days.
- 5:34Speaker 5: Devin Williams comes back like are you were you living
- 5:36Speaker 5: it up for those three days? And then the one
- 5:37Speaker 5: day in Detroit? I mean, are you living it up?
- 5:40Speaker 5: Thinking like man, this could be it? And and not
- 5:42Speaker 5: like not it for your career, but it's with the Yankees.
- 5:45Speaker 5: So were you like, man, I'm gonna do the best
- 5:47Speaker 5: and have the most fun hit all the spots in
- 5:49Speaker 5: New York and Detroit.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Well, I mean I don't do too much away from
- 5:53Speaker 1: the field anyway, And you know I live in New York,
- 5:55Speaker 1: so really I just drove to the stadium from my house.
- 5:57Speaker 1: So it was great. You know, my family got to
- 5:59Speaker 1: come watch me pitch. Who knows if it's the last time,
- 6:03Speaker 1: but they got to watch me pitch. I, like I said,
- 6:06Speaker 1: I don't take it for granted. I made sure I
- 6:08Speaker 1: took it in. You know, I had a good time,
- 6:11Speaker 1: trying to have as much fun as I can, even
- 6:12Speaker 1: though it's one of those it's one of those things
- 6:14Speaker 1: where while you're doing what you're doing out there, it's
- 6:16Speaker 1: not necessarily fun. You're because you're kind of too busy
- 6:19Speaker 1: to have fun. But I try to have as much
- 6:20Speaker 1: fun as I could every minute I was out the field,
- 6:22Speaker 1: because you know, tomorrow's ever guaranteed and you just never
- 6:25Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen.
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- 7:28Speaker 4: Did you ever look at guys that were in your
- 7:30Speaker 4: situation now when you were on your big long term
- 7:34Speaker 4: extension contracts, or like when you were an All Star
- 7:38Speaker 4: early in your career, Like, did you ever look at
- 7:40Speaker 4: the guys that are doing what you're doing and go
- 7:43Speaker 4: I kind of forgot that guy was on the team,
- 7:45Speaker 4: Because if you don't go back with the Yankees, some
- 7:47Speaker 4: guys that didn't play with you before would be like,
- 7:50Speaker 4: I forgot Atta was on the team back in aut
- 7:53Speaker 4: April with us.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, I mean yeah, I was thinking about
- 7:59Speaker 1: it last year. We were doing the playoff shares for
- 8:02Speaker 1: the Mets and some names came up and people were like,
- 8:04Speaker 1: who's that guy? And I was like, you know he
- 8:06Speaker 1: was there for a few days, maybe did get in
- 8:08Speaker 1: the game, But I mean it's such a long season.
- 8:11Speaker 1: It's one or couple one or a few days is
- 8:14Speaker 1: just really a needle in the haystack and the scheme
- 8:16Speaker 1: of things. So yeah, I've been through it on that
- 8:19Speaker 1: side of it where you're kind of like, uh, we're
- 8:21Speaker 1: going to see this guy as kind of a ship
- 8:23Speaker 1: passing in the night. And now I've been on the
- 8:24Speaker 1: side of it being the ship. So I don't know,
- 8:27Speaker 1: interesting good experience, something different to go through for sure.
- 8:30Speaker 3: How do you feel? How do you feel right now?
- 8:32Speaker 4: And is Crassy gonna get your get your mind and
- 8:35Speaker 4: your body right while you're down there?
- 8:39Speaker 1: Well, I feel good, and I think that's why I'm
- 8:40Speaker 1: still going. I mean, you know, people asked me the
- 8:45Speaker 1: last offseason what I was going to do. You know,
- 8:48Speaker 1: the reality is I'm not hurt. I haven't been hurt
- 8:52Speaker 1: in a while. I feel good. I thought by the
- 8:54Speaker 1: time I would get to thirty nine years old, i'd
- 8:55Speaker 1: be kind of limping to the finish line. But I
- 8:58Speaker 1: feel good, So you know, it's that part of it's
- 9:03Speaker 1: taken care of. The other part is just get an
- 9:05Speaker 1: opportunity to get a little runway and get get rolling.
- 9:08Speaker 1: But you know, if I didn't feel good, I wouldn't
- 9:10Speaker 1: be still doing this. So lucky that the health part
- 9:13Speaker 1: is is all squared away.
- 9:15Speaker 4: What kind of calls did you get this offseason? Like,
- 9:19Speaker 4: you're you're a big leaguer, You're a big leaguer that
- 9:21Speaker 4: can help a bullpen. Oh wait, you're on a playoff
- 9:23Speaker 4: team that you know, you were piecing that playoff bullpen?
- 9:27Speaker 4: Like what kind of calls did you get? Like, Hey,
- 9:29Speaker 4: how's everything going? You still got your glove? Like was
- 9:31Speaker 4: there any interest at all?
- 9:34Speaker 3: Oh?
- 9:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I probably I had probably talked to
- 9:37Speaker 1: more teams this offseason than I had in the other years,
- 9:40Speaker 1: where I was maybe more desirable for contracts. You know,
- 9:43Speaker 1: just the nature of the way the free agent cycle
- 9:46Speaker 1: goes these days, things got really pushed back to a
- 9:48Speaker 1: really late date, So I never got any offers until
- 9:51Speaker 1: really late, like into spring training time. But I had
- 9:54Speaker 1: been talked to via the interest, you know, for months there,
- 9:59Speaker 1: and you know, I got one big league offer. It
- 10:01Speaker 1: wasn't what I wanted to take at the time. Ended
- 10:04Speaker 1: up kind of taking the leap of faith with Boston.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Felt like I maybe had a little bit of an
- 10:09Speaker 1: insight edge to make that club ended up being more
- 10:12Speaker 1: of an uphill battle than I than I realized, And
- 10:15Speaker 1: you know, I didn't perform probably the way they were
- 10:17Speaker 1: looking for me to perform early to you know, even
- 10:21Speaker 1: to the middle of spring training there. So you know,
- 10:24Speaker 1: I talked with a lot of teams, Like I said,
- 10:26Speaker 1: once I decided that I was open to an NRI
- 10:28Speaker 1: offer the off season, I did talk to like fifteen
- 10:30Speaker 1: teams at that time, so there was plenty of like
- 10:33Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote interest, but nothing to the level of,
- 10:37Speaker 1: you know, giving you a bunch of major league offers.
- 10:39Speaker 1: I only had one major league offer, so it was
- 10:41Speaker 1: kind of unique in that.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Way, Adam. Two things.
- 10:45Speaker 5: First of all, we always talk about spring training and
- 10:48Speaker 5: say that spring training can be overrated a lot of
- 10:50Speaker 5: times as far as like teams go into it and say,
- 10:53Speaker 5: we already kind of know who our roster is going
- 10:55Speaker 5: to be. Do you think if you would have of
- 10:57Speaker 5: course the answer to this will be yes, But do
- 10:59Speaker 5: you think you said you thought you went in there
- 11:01Speaker 5: with a competitive edge, Well, do you think that you
- 11:04Speaker 5: not pitching will had more of an effect or they
- 11:06Speaker 5: already Because what if you would have gone in there,
- 11:08Speaker 5: and obviously if you would have gone in there and
- 11:10Speaker 5: thrown five shutout innings or whatever, they would be like, well,
- 11:12Speaker 5: we got to.
- 11:12Speaker 3: Keep this guy.
- 11:13Speaker 5: Or do you think that it was kind of pre
- 11:15Speaker 5: set because a lot of times, I mean with veterans,
- 11:18Speaker 5: it doesn't matter how you pitch, it's more of like
- 11:20Speaker 5: how it comes out.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Of your hand, how he's feeling, and then we go
- 11:23Speaker 3: from there.
- 11:23Speaker 5: So do you think that your effectiveness or non effectiveness
- 11:27Speaker 5: had a bigger deal than you thought going into it.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I think there's a combination effectors. I think, for one thing,
- 11:34Speaker 1: the guys that they had in house through the ball
- 11:35Speaker 1: really well. Showed a lot of what they were looking
- 11:38Speaker 1: for out of those guys, and you know they were
- 11:40Speaker 1: making the decisions tough. Red Sox do have a lot
- 11:42Speaker 1: of quality arms at the moment. So you know, I'm
- 11:46Speaker 1: a firm believer that, you know, guys should go with
- 11:48Speaker 1: the guys that they believe are going to help their
- 11:50Speaker 1: team the most at the moment. You know, for me,
- 11:53Speaker 1: I was in a weird position, you know, in that
- 11:57Speaker 1: you know, I've been very lucky in my career. I
- 11:58Speaker 1: haven't had to make a team and over a dozen years,
- 12:01Speaker 1: you know, I've been able to kind of build up
- 12:03Speaker 1: at my own pace, punt spring training results out the window,
- 12:06Speaker 1: and just get ready for opening day. This was a
- 12:08Speaker 1: little bit of a different situation where I knew I
- 12:10Speaker 1: was gonna have to show them a little something, and
- 12:13Speaker 1: to be fair, I didn't show them much until the
- 12:14Speaker 1: last week. It does take me a little while to
- 12:17Speaker 1: get going. I definitely rely on the competitive, you know
- 12:22Speaker 1: nature of real games to kind of pull the velocity
- 12:24Speaker 1: out of me and some of the things they're looking for.
- 12:27Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't I didn't have a relationship with
- 12:30Speaker 1: everyone over there, just the manager and bench coach and VerTech.
- 12:33Speaker 1: I didn't know Breslo at all. So to be fair,
- 12:36Speaker 1: he's getting his eyes on me for the first time.
- 12:38Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, I was less than
- 12:40Speaker 1: impressive early, so I do think if they were on
- 12:42Speaker 1: the fence about it, that probably pushed them, you know,
- 12:45Speaker 1: away from me. But that being said, you know, nothing
- 12:48Speaker 1: was ever promised. I just felt like I was maybe
- 12:50Speaker 1: going to be given a little more grace to get
- 12:52Speaker 1: myself where I needed to be, and you know, they
- 12:54Speaker 1: were gonna understand my long term value. But at the
- 12:55Speaker 1: end of the day if they felt like going with
- 12:57Speaker 1: other guys like that's certainly their prerogative. No ILL will
- 13:00Speaker 1: towards that decisions.
- 13:03Speaker 3: That's that's a great answer, all right.
- 13:04Speaker 5: Last thing for me, now that you're a free agent again,
- 13:07Speaker 5: our team's calling you because I was I was DFA
- 13:10Speaker 5: in the.
- 13:10Speaker 3: Middle of the season.
- 13:10Speaker 5: You have to wait your seven days, ten days, whatever
- 13:13Speaker 5: it is, and then all of a sudden the team
- 13:15Speaker 5: will call you and say, hey, we want you to
- 13:16Speaker 5: come here, and you're like, oh, well, I mean you
- 13:18Speaker 5: went to Cressey. I went on a road trip with
- 13:19Speaker 5: my family to Cooperstown and I was drinking beer, taking
- 13:23Speaker 5: soft toss before I went back to the Cardinals. So
- 13:26Speaker 5: I mean, I know you're keeping in shave and ready
- 13:28Speaker 5: to go, but are teams reaching out because I remember,
- 13:31Speaker 5: you know, is your agent calling teams. I forget how
- 13:33Speaker 5: it works, but you would think they're you know, teams
- 13:36Speaker 5: are interested. They might not want to get you off waivers,
- 13:38Speaker 5: but as soon as you're a free agent, maybe come
- 13:40Speaker 5: to you and say, hey, you know, Adam, we want
- 13:42Speaker 5: you to be our seventh inning, eighth Inny Gay.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Well, I don't think there are allowed to talk to
- 13:47Speaker 1: me yet because I'm still going through the waivers process
- 13:49Speaker 1: until Thursday. Once I clear waivers. If that's the case,
- 13:53Speaker 1: then yeah, then my agent will be reaching out to everyone.
- 13:58Speaker 1: But you know, like it's a unique situation, and like,
- 14:00Speaker 1: I'm not going to sign ap my E league deal,
- 14:03Speaker 1: so you're gonna bring me to the big league team,
- 14:04Speaker 1: whether it's on a forty five day consent or whatever,
- 14:08Speaker 1: or you're not. And so you know, this is a
- 14:10Speaker 1: taking situation for me. I don't need to play. I
- 14:12Speaker 1: certainly want to play. I think I'm capable of playing
- 14:15Speaker 1: and doing a great job, but I'm not gonna, you know,
- 14:18Speaker 1: wait around forever.
- 14:19Speaker 3: And that's just the.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Reality of it. It's hard, as great as it is
- 14:23Speaker 1: down here to be able to throw to hitters and
- 14:25Speaker 1: stage stay sharp and as best as you can and
- 14:27Speaker 1: stay active. You know, there's an expiration.
- 14:29Speaker 3: On that and we all know that.
- 14:31Speaker 1: So yeah, just keeping my options open. I was taught
- 14:35Speaker 1: to always run through the finish line with things, and
- 14:36Speaker 1: I'm just trying my best to do that.
- 14:39Speaker 4: I saw the thing on Twitter that Junele put up.
- 14:42Speaker 4: You faced the reporter June Lee, does he have a
- 14:46Speaker 4: shot of getting an NRI next year for any big
- 14:50Speaker 4: League camps, and how cool of an opportunity was that,
- 14:54Speaker 4: not just for him, but for you to kind of
- 14:56Speaker 4: show some reporters, hey, you know what hot takes about
- 14:59Speaker 4: out of Vino's band spat outings might need to just
- 15:02Speaker 4: be tempered a little bit.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Jude's Jude's my guy. You know, great guy.
- 15:07Speaker 1: I've been friends for a while now, and it was
- 15:09Speaker 1: a fun It was a fun day. You know, we
- 15:11Speaker 1: had a little fun with it. I don't think he'll
- 15:12Speaker 1: be getting an NRI anytime soon, but but uh, you know, listen, Uh,
- 15:18Speaker 1: we were just trying to explore a topic. I mean,
- 15:20Speaker 1: he's he's on a crusade to you know, uh cover
- 15:24Speaker 1: sports a little bit differently, and I have no problem
- 15:27Speaker 1: helping him with that. You know, I'm not one to
- 15:30Speaker 1: bash reporters doing their job, but it is fun to
- 15:34Speaker 1: kind of, you know, show the balance of things, like, yes,
- 15:38Speaker 1: you're you're great at what you do, but I'm you know,
- 15:41Speaker 1: still a ballplayer, and uh, it's not that easy to
- 15:43Speaker 1: hit me.
- 15:44Speaker 3: For sure.
- 15:45Speaker 4: We've been we've been taught. Yeah, I know, I struck
- 15:47Speaker 4: out against you, so it sucks facing you. But when
- 15:51Speaker 4: you get like a new bat or something from a
- 15:53Speaker 4: teammate and you don't get a hit with it, You're like, oh,
- 15:57Speaker 4: it was the bat's fault. So I gotta say on here, now,
- 16:01Speaker 4: you ruined my career era because when we were in Toronto,
- 16:05Speaker 4: well it was a COVID season, so we were in Buffalo.
- 16:08Speaker 4: I didn't have a glove because the because the dugout
- 16:11Speaker 4: was way out and right field, and they were having
- 16:14Speaker 4: me come in the game and I use your broke
- 16:16Speaker 4: high era glove and I gave up a dinger and
- 16:20Speaker 4: so I blame my career era on you.
- 16:25Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair. I mean, listen, I give up
- 16:27Speaker 3: seven runs without getting.
- 16:28Speaker 1: It out in Buffalo in twenty twenty, so I had
- 16:31Speaker 1: bad juju all around for you to use my glove
- 16:34Speaker 1: there that that. I don't know what we were thinking there.
- 16:36Speaker 1: We should have we should have sent you maybe you
- 16:38Speaker 1: know somebody else's I don't know, Kinley.
- 16:40Speaker 4: Somebody somebody's I get it. I appreciate, but I appreciate
- 16:44Speaker 4: you letting me borrow it absolutely well.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Adam, thank you so much for doing this. Obviously it
- 16:51Speaker 2: means a lot. You know, if you connect with one
- 16:55Speaker 2: player out there's who's trying to obviously make it through
- 16:58Speaker 2: his journey. It really so. I appreciate it, man. Obviously,
- 17:02Speaker 2: keep us posted. We're rooting for you to latch back
- 17:05Speaker 2: on soon.
- 17:05Speaker 3: Okay, all right, yeah, I appreciate you guys. Thanks, thank you,