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Ross Fulton Analysis: How Will The Michigan Defense Attack Ohio State? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, November twenty
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Speaker 1: seventh time your host Tom Moore. The game against Michigan
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Speaker 1: make a reservation today. All right, so we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: looking back at the Indiana game, some very encouraging things
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Speaker 1: from Ohio State on offense in that game. But we're
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Speaker 1: also going to be doing it sort of with a
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Speaker 1: little bit of an eye ahead at this weekend against
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Speaker 1: the Michigan Wolverines. So let's start with an area where
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Speaker 1: there could be a challenge for the Buckeyes this weekend,
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Speaker 1: and that is in the on the ground. Let's start
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Speaker 1: ross with you know, there were some inconsistencies certainly for
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Speaker 1: Ohio State on the ground. They hit hit some big ones,
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Speaker 1: especially at the end, but had some struggles as well.
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Speaker 1: This let's start with one. They did have a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a struggle. This is one of those goal
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Speaker 1: to go plays where Indiana really stopped Ohio State pretty
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Speaker 1: effectively on the ground.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Indiana, we talked about going into the game
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Speaker 2: how much they liked to move their front, you know,
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Speaker 2: slant stunt' you know, some of this, you know, but
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Speaker 2: what Indiana did a lot against Ohio State, particularly and
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Speaker 2: run situations, was play a odd or a bear front
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Speaker 2: like you're seeing here on this clip. So you get
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Speaker 2: a zero technique, you know, nosegar head up over the center,
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Speaker 2: you know, to defensive ends or tackles inside of the
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Speaker 2: offensive tackles, and you know it's called a four I,
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Speaker 2: and then you basely have a five down front with
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Speaker 2: the two stand up outside linebackers. Ohio State, I do
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Speaker 2: think they expected this. They actually had a good plan
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Speaker 2: for it. Like you saw it early on, like Will
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Speaker 2: Howard would go up and check, they'd go to under
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Speaker 2: center and they'd run. They try to get the football
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Speaker 2: off tackle outside the three down. Whyman saw that with
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Speaker 2: some stretch and you saw here with uh this is power,
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Speaker 2: which they haven't run much of this year. Right, So
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Speaker 2: it's like we've talked about counterpowers similar except you're now
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have a which Uh who the tight end here,
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Speaker 2: wil because Merrick is going to function as a fullback
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Speaker 2: and he's got excuse me, bettet Christian, He's gonna try
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Speaker 2: to kick out and you're gonna pull the backside guard around.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Again, these are like plays that go off tackle, so
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Speaker 2: that that bubble obviously you can see there between Donova
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Speaker 2: Jackson and Uh Wilkes Merrick. But Indiana again because of
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Speaker 2: all the movement, like it was hard to always predict
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Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. Right, So like here Indiana does slant
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Speaker 2: away from the play, but the problem is that brings
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Speaker 2: that outside edge rusher inside and and Bennett Christian just misses.
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Speaker 2: I think that the tight end blocking Uh in the
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Speaker 2: run game on Saturday was uneven, to say the least.
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Speaker 2: Miss The blocks had sometimes where like they could have
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Speaker 2: just sustained blocks for a little bit longer. The other
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Speaker 2: thing though, that you know they had to plan to
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Speaker 2: run these gap schemes. But what Indiana was doing, and
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Speaker 2: you can see it here, is that that noseguard over
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Speaker 2: the center was reading the blocks and when he saw
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Speaker 2: the center block back, he would basically jump up or
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Speaker 2: pull himself back and then loop around towards the play.
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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that in a while.
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Speaker 2: It's sort of like an old school like noseguard read technique,
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Speaker 2: and so he was trying to read the play, and
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Speaker 2: so here he's basically sitting in the hole waiting for
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Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn Junkins. I'd happened a few times on different
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Speaker 2: concepts where that nose guard would just be unblocked because
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Speaker 2: it was just hard to account for him on those
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Speaker 2: down block schemes or the gap schemes when everyone was
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Speaker 2: blocking back. You know, it really takes keeping your had
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Speaker 2: head up and keeping on your path. And so they,
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Speaker 2: you know, they just did some things to throw some
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Speaker 2: wrenches in the run game. We'll get into this a
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Speaker 2: little bit with the on the Trevon Henderson touchdown, but
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Speaker 2: you know, also just playing a lot of like cover
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Speaker 2: zero selling out against the run, particularly in short yardage situations.
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Speaker 2: A lot of as I said, a lot of guessing
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Speaker 2: from Indiana words if it was a rundown or where
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Speaker 2: they expected to run a lot of single high a
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Speaker 2: lot of bringing bodies, throwing safeties, and then you know,
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Speaker 2: playing more split safety cover two stuff when they expected pass.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, you have already told everyone what's coming next,
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Speaker 1: So I'm just going to get out of the way
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Speaker 1: and let you talk about that Travon Henderson touchdown run.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think adversely, Ohio State ran the ball better when
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Speaker 2: they had the better numbers, and so here, you know,
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Speaker 2: like the difference here on this play versus like some
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Speaker 2: of the other short yardage is you can see that
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Speaker 2: Indiana is basically playing a cone or a bracket on
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith as a single receiver because this is third
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Speaker 2: and four, and so they obviously they went from being
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Speaker 2: you know, much more mugged up aggressive here and but
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Speaker 2: now they've sort of they've got a safety helping out
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Speaker 2: on the inside of Smith because my guess is they
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Speaker 2: thought they were going to get a slant to Smith
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Speaker 2: here that equated the numbers inside. This is a stretch,
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Speaker 2: but zone oh I State did run stretch well. Again,
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Speaker 2: like this isn't quite this bear look, but like you
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Speaker 2: can see from the back end zone side they have
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Speaker 2: you know, again like all kinds of different fronts, like
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Speaker 2: this is sort of a you still have a head
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Speaker 2: up noseguard. You have one guy the bear to that
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Speaker 2: side their High State's running, and then the other defensive
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Speaker 2: lineman is wider to the field. So again just like
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Speaker 2: throwing lots of stuff at High State, but like stretch
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Speaker 2: was pretty effective. Again, like aiming for that bubble you get.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think a really nice job here by
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Speaker 2: Carts and Hinsman staying on his track at center. He
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Speaker 2: gets up on twenty one the play side linebacker, which
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Speaker 2: allows Henderson to be free.
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Speaker 3: You know, I thought on Henderson ran really well.
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Speaker 2: He's obviously running, he's breaking tackles, He's obviously explosive as
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Speaker 2: we saw him the last run. You know, I do
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Speaker 2: think that quinnchron Junkins has been pressing a little bit.
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Speaker 2: There are a few times I thought he you know,
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Speaker 2: missed holes or is a little too or conversely, like
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Speaker 2: was a little bit too much dancing in the backfield.
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Speaker 2: But I also do think that Junkins, you know, that
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Speaker 2: was especially live. I had that thought, you know, upon
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Speaker 2: Rerut watch. I do think Henderson is benefiting from the
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Speaker 2: fact that he's coming in a lot on third downs, right,
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Speaker 2: or like it's the change up back, and a lot
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Speaker 2: of times he's getting running the football and like these
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Speaker 2: third and four situations where the defense is not expecting
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Speaker 2: how I state to run and so they're getting like
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Speaker 2: a better look, right, Like that was even true. Like
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Speaker 2: let's even use like Purdue as an example where we
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Speaker 2: talked about like Purdue playing that like five to one
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Speaker 2: penny front and then like on third down it was
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Speaker 2: like thirty and three, they'd being a four down front
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Speaker 2: and it cleans up the blocking up front, and it
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Speaker 2: you know, it opened things up. And so I do
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Speaker 2: think there's probably you know, it's a chicken and egg thing, right,
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Speaker 2: Like Judkins, I do think is probably getting a little
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Speaker 2: frustrated because there are times like the clip I just
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Speaker 2: showed where like he's having unblocked defensive linemen standing in
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Speaker 2: the hole or like meeting him in the backfield. But
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Speaker 2: you know, so I think, you know, it will help
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Speaker 2: them again, and like this is going to be kind
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Speaker 2: of a common theme here. Obviously they played well on offense.
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Speaker 2: I think they'll they'll halt themselves further by being a
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Speaker 2: little bit more throwing more on rundowns and first down
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Speaker 2: and then running more like on those like in passing
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Speaker 2: downs as well, and so just keeping off defensive off
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Speaker 2: balance because defenses are opponents are definitely trying to guess
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Speaker 2: which way, you know, based on down a distance and tendencies,
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Speaker 2: what a state it's going to do, and you get
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Speaker 2: pretty different looks as a result of that.
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Speaker 1: All right, So that's our look at the running game.
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Speaker 1: Obviously play a factor this weekend. Now let's move on
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Speaker 1: to the pass game. And I got to tell you
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Speaker 1: I watched the Michigan Northwestern game and the Ohio State
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Speaker 1: Indiana game back to back on Sunday for a couple
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Speaker 1: of shows that I did with Tony Gerdaman, and boy,
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Speaker 1: it is jarring to watch the Michigan passing game and
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Speaker 1: it's just dink and dunk and just the Ohio State
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Speaker 1: passing game. They weren't heaving it deep a whole lot
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Speaker 1: on Saturday, but they were very effective with those mid
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Speaker 1: level throws against the Hoosiers. We're gona be talking about
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Speaker 1: a bunch of those here. The first one just an
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Speaker 1: RPO throw to Jeremiah Smith, which is a good way
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Speaker 1: you want a good way to look good in the
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Speaker 1: passing game, throw the ball to Jeremiah Smith.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do think there were times where they
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Speaker 2: particularly a game flow situation right particularly in the late
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Speaker 2: third quarter on where they kind of allowed Indiana to
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Speaker 2: get away with single coverage on Jeremiah Smith, where you know,
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Speaker 2: I would like to see them take some deep shots.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think Will Howard does a lot of
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Speaker 2: things really well, and we're going to talk about that.
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Speaker 3: And he played really well.
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Speaker 2: Again, He's not, like I would not call him a
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Speaker 2: huge risk taker throwing the football down the field. He
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Speaker 2: threw the one to Jeremi Smith on the go around
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Speaker 2: the end zone could have been past interference, but you know,
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Speaker 2: you know, some quarterbacks will probably take more of those
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Speaker 2: one on one shots. But what he really is good
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Speaker 2: at is these like second level throws. And this goes
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Speaker 2: to my previous point as well about you know, I
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Speaker 2: think that again, like the RPO game continues to be
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Speaker 2: there for our state.
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Speaker 3: I do the.
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Speaker 2: Reliefs compared to where they were earlier in the season,
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Speaker 2: Like teams are more aggressive playing those RPOs, Like there
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Speaker 2: was the one early to a Mecca BUCA like that
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Speaker 2: aarrow route that got blown up.
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Speaker 3: You know, g Scott missed the block.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Ohio State is blocking those as well
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Speaker 2: on the edge, maybe just better competition teams are more
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Speaker 2: prepared for them. But like what remains are these like
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Speaker 2: easy RPO throws? Hit a couple of these, Like this
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Speaker 2: is just like a split stone with a backside hitch.
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Speaker 2: And you know, if teams again want to give that
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Speaker 2: kind of cushion, it's an easy pitching catch to gain yards.
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Speaker 3: I'd like to, you know, see them use more and
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Speaker 3: more of these.
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Speaker 2: I mean, particularly like if you want to get Teremiah
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Speaker 2: Smith involved, Like again his run after the catch ability
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Speaker 2: is really really good here you see them like, you know,
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Speaker 2: turn this into a first down. And so again that
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Speaker 2: just goes to my bigger theme that I do think
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Speaker 2: they could would help themselves by passing more particular early downs.
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Speaker 2: Like I really think that if you want to like
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Speaker 2: take the governor off the offense, like Will Howard should
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Speaker 2: have thirty attempts at least a game. I know they're getting,
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Speaker 2: you know, they're only getting like sixty plays, give or take.
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Speaker 2: But I do think they should be more like at
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Speaker 2: least a fifty to fifty split. You know, I think
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Speaker 2: that they're they're passing game is really where they're they
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Speaker 2: make their money. And I do think that, you know,
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Speaker 2: people concerned about the run game part of it. As
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Speaker 2: I said, it's like teams, particularly like on when they
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Speaker 2: expect to run, are really loading it up. You know,
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Speaker 2: I thought that actually, Carson Hinsman, as I touched on
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Speaker 2: earlier at Center, I played well.
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Speaker 3: I thought Austin Seaville played well.
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe there was a couple early twists like
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Speaker 2: Sarahville and Jackson didn't pass off correctly, but you know,
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Speaker 2: I thought overall they're pretty steady. As I said, like
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Speaker 2: tight end blocking, could you know, get cleaned up. I
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Speaker 2: think will Cosmeric being back more and more will help
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Speaker 2: with that. You know, Tiger Shabola continues to like have
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Speaker 2: his ups and downs, I will say sometimes and like
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Speaker 2: his identification and playing with like the correct pad level.
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Speaker 2: But overall it's to me, it's again less like an
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Speaker 2: offensive line handling their counterpart issue and more just like
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Speaker 2: sheer numbers or like diagnosing what's going on. But you know,
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Speaker 2: I just think they're like similar to what they had
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Speaker 2: to do against Oregon when they really have to you know,
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Speaker 2: throwing the football, including with like RPOs on early downs,
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Speaker 2: is probably going to help them.
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Speaker 3: Reach the max of their offensive capacity.
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Speaker 1: Well, one of the ways they reached the max to
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Speaker 1: their offensive capacity on Saturday was by throwing the ball
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Speaker 1: to a Mecca Abuka. We are going to have three street,
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Speaker 1: three straight Mecha Ubuka plays here for you. The first
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Speaker 1: one is that touchdown fro to Abuka. It was just
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Speaker 1: it was a unbelievable touch from Will Howard and an
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Speaker 1: incredible catch from Abuka. I didn't realize this watching live.
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Speaker 1: The defensive actually actually got a finger on it, so
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Speaker 1: he deflected the ball right before it got to a
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Speaker 1: book and Abuka adjusted and still made the catch for
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. So that's the next one we're going to
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Speaker 1: be taking a look at here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and again, like a lot of these,
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Speaker 2: you'll see like there's a lot of focus on Jeremiah
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Speaker 2: Smith from the opponent and rightly so. But yeah, again,
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Speaker 2: as we've talked about, like when push comes to shoving
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Speaker 2: bigger games, uh, they're going to go to a mecca
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Speaker 2: book a lot, and you know you get here. This
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Speaker 2: is a again like a cover two look, it's sort
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Speaker 2: of it's a zone blitz like they're bringing you know,
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Speaker 2: so they're bringing five, they're playing it two deep four under. Again,
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Speaker 2: you're seeing like lots of these split safety looks against
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Speaker 2: Ohiah State, and you know, it's a sort of a
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Speaker 2: non traditional one right, like similar to what we've talked about,
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Speaker 2: like Ohio State running two seal because the flat defender
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Speaker 2: to the boundary is the defensive end or outside linebacker.
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Speaker 2: It's actually a nice play by that guy get in
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Speaker 2: the depth on Ambuka because it's kind of like a
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Speaker 2: post wheel right and both the safety and the linebacker
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Speaker 2: both Carrie Jeremiah Smith into the end zone, leaving a
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Speaker 2: Mecca alone on that linebacker who tries to cover them
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Speaker 2: to the to the on the wheel, which obviously isn't
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Speaker 2: going to work. So nice design against that sort of
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Speaker 2: you know, rotated cover two. But again, yeah, like as
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Speaker 2: you mentioned Will Howard, I just think it can't be.
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Speaker 2: It can be taken for granted, but when you watch
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Speaker 2: other teams play, it shouldn't be like how accurate and
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Speaker 2: his touch on these sort of second level throws. It's
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Speaker 2: particularly against cover two to the outside, like over the
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Speaker 2: flat defender and in front of you know, before the
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Speaker 2: same you can come over just really accurate. Obviously, it
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Speaker 2: helps to have the receivers Ohio State does to run
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Speaker 2: these kind of concepts.
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Speaker 3: But I just think that as I talked about, like.
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Speaker 2: If you know, if you wouldn't put him being a
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Speaker 2: gunslinger down the field as his strength, like what his
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Speaker 2: strength is is definitely like hitting these kind of second
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Speaker 2: level throws and threading the football in there.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've talked a couple of times already about teams
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Speaker 1: kind of loading up against the run at times when
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Speaker 1: they think Ohio State's going to run, so you would
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Speaker 1: sort of think, okay, play action passing probably going to
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Speaker 1: be successful, set them up for success. And this is
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Speaker 1: an example of that happening. A nice hard play action
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Speaker 1: here from Will Howard and then a throw to a
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Speaker 1: Mecca Abuka exactly.
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Speaker 2: So this is the first and down, first and ten
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Speaker 2: play Ohio State again gets. This is actually like a
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Speaker 2: cover four but again like just another example of hitting
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Speaker 2: essentially like another corner route to a Mecca Abuka over
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Speaker 2: the you know the flat defender right, and so the
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Speaker 2: similar concept you get six man heavy play action again,
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Speaker 2: like Jeremi Smith takes the corner with him. It's like
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Speaker 2: a cover four man, so like they're manned up with
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Speaker 2: the corner of the outside that leaves a mecca book
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Speaker 2: on the safety who who can't come over?
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Speaker 3: But again like another.
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Speaker 2: Example of Will Howard being really good on these routes.
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Speaker 2: But you know, I should say and then like to
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Speaker 2: the boundary of this, Will, this is going to be important,
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Speaker 2: Like they've seen a lot of this is cover four.
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Speaker 2: They hit this against Tampa on the Carnel Tate fourth
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Speaker 2: down conversion early in the game on the fourth and ten.
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Speaker 2: Like similar though concept of the corner router deep out,
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Speaker 2: you know, hit Jeremi Smith on a deep out on
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Speaker 2: third down and long you know, Michigan again Will like
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Speaker 2: winked Martin Daley us is quite a bit of Tampa two.
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Speaker 2: So we've seen a lot of Ohio state responses to
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Speaker 2: Tampa two. A lot of these like corner routes into
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Speaker 2: like the you know, whole area between over the flat
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Speaker 2: defender outside the safety, a lot of those dig routes
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Speaker 2: underneath the Tampa dropper and you know, a lot of this,
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Speaker 2: you know, we can talk about a little bit. But
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Speaker 2: especially like again like both of these plays, the other
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Speaker 2: thing that I should note is they're both into the
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Speaker 2: boundary right, So in both you got Smith and a
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Speaker 2: Mecca Buca into the short side of the field. Michigan
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Speaker 2: and Martin Dale like the transition from the NFL where
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Speaker 2: the hash marks are a lot closer together to college
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Speaker 2: or it really the field and boundary distinction really matters.
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Speaker 2: Like they've struggled some with defending formation into boundary and motion.
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Speaker 2: All of what you get here, you know, changing up
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Speaker 2: who's the inside, who's the outside receiver and as I said,
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Speaker 2: threatening the short side of the field.
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Speaker 1: All right, And if you want to talk about throwing
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Speaker 1: in a likely run situation, I don't know that there's
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Speaker 1: a more likely run situation than fourth and one. And
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Speaker 1: this is the fourth and one pass that very clearly
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Speaker 1: Indiana was expecting run and that left America Mecca Abuka
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Speaker 1: wide open for a really nice game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for better or worse like Indiana, as
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Speaker 2: I said, was like selling out in the short yard
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Speaker 2: of situations. So you have obviously the touchdown throw to
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Speaker 2: Jolni Thurman out of the T formation. I think they
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Speaker 2: noticed that first fourth down in short where they were stopped.
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Speaker 2: It was a wedge play obviously, and they brought pressure
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Speaker 2: off the edge, but Benett Christian, I don't know if
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Speaker 2: intentionally unintentionally like sort of ended up in the middle
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Speaker 2: of the end zone with no one guarding him. I'm
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Speaker 2: sure that didn't go unnoticed because they then turned to
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Speaker 2: back to that you know, delay wrapped to Jolni Thurman
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Speaker 2: and obviously at Trey Henderson to the flat as well.
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Speaker 2: Here again, you know, cover zero on fourth down selling
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Speaker 2: out like you know, I whatever you want to say
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Speaker 2: about you know, how you should run the football and
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Speaker 2: short yardage, Like if you have Jeremiah Smith and a
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Speaker 2: Mecca Buka and teams want to play them cover zero
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Speaker 2: with no safety help, like I think you should take
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Speaker 2: advantage of it like they do here, Like this is
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Speaker 2: basically a Yankee concept. Who talks about where you know again,
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Speaker 2: Jeremi Smith running the d post runs off the corner,
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Speaker 2: just allow a Mecca Buka to run the depot or
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 3: I think the other thing that they used sparingly.
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Speaker 2: In terms of short yardage on Saturday, which I continue
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Speaker 2: to think will be there more and more is Will
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Speaker 2: Howard running. They had the one Q Power run that
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Speaker 2: I think would have been a touchdown before the Henderson
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Speaker 2: before that touchdown drive that we showed, except there was
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Speaker 2: just being a Christian missed the block. There's a couple
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Speaker 2: of situations, like back to the RPO game, where I
18:30
Speaker 2: think that if they conversely, if they don't want to
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Speaker 2: do that, if they can use you know, there's still
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Speaker 2: the read element there, the zone read that Like a
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Speaker 2: couple of times I thought that if they had had
18:41
Speaker 2: to read attached like Howard would have a big game.
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Speaker 2: So obviously they're picking and choosing their spots with that
18:49
Speaker 2: as it goes on the season. You know, I thought
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Speaker 2: we'd see more of it, probably against Indiana, pretty sparing.
18:55
Speaker 2: I still think we'll see some of it against Michigan
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Speaker 2: on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: Right earlier, you said that Ohio State when they had
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Speaker 1: issues on the offensive line, it was not generally an
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Speaker 1: issue with their counterpart. It was some other stuff. This
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Speaker 1: is a week when it feels like he could have
19:10
Speaker 1: an issue with their counterparts because Michigan, the strength of
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Speaker 1: that defense, well, the strength of the team is the defense,
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Speaker 1: and the strength of defense seems like it's the defensive
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Speaker 1: line and the offensive line for Ohio State obviously has
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Speaker 1: been solid the last couple of weeks, but still probably
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Speaker 1: going to be facing their toughest test this weekend. How
19:26
Speaker 1: big of a concern is that and how does Ohio
19:28
Speaker 1: State maybe game plan to try and help that offensive
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Speaker 1: line out this weekend.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's certainly a challenge.
19:35
Speaker 2: Like you know, Mason Grant Kenneth Grant are great interior players.
19:40
Speaker 2: Josiah Stewart has been like he's had some up and
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Speaker 2: down games, but when he's on, he's you know, he
19:46
Speaker 2: brings that like speed edge element that now Donovan Jackson
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Speaker 2: had some issues with against out Duel'carter from Penn State.
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Speaker 2: So I do think that'll be a challenge, right, and
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Speaker 2: like that can put a cap It's somewhat on you
19:59
Speaker 2: know what Ohios they can do. As I said, I
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Speaker 2: think that conversely, if they can hold up and then
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Speaker 2: I you know, I think Michigan in the back end
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Speaker 2: has They're not like they were last year.
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Speaker 3: They've had they bust some coverages, they don't have quite the.
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Speaker 2: Same level of continuity and like execution and like as
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Speaker 2: I said, Mardale isn't as comfortable with the college game
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Speaker 2: at some level still, and so like you know, things
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Speaker 2: that they've Michigan struggled with that could help as well
20:32
Speaker 2: with like against a good defensive.
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Speaker 3: Line or screens draws.
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Speaker 2: Right, we talked about like lots of motion, put in
20:38
Speaker 2: the formation into boundary, like I would like to see
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Speaker 2: them rpo a lot like especially like if Michigan is
20:44
Speaker 2: going to play a lot of like on early downs,
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Speaker 2: like lots of cover three with soft corners, take advantage
20:52
Speaker 2: throw those hitches to Jeremiah Smith. You know, I think
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Speaker 2: that it would just be a game where you know,
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Speaker 2: you want to change up the protection schemes, use some
21:03
Speaker 2: like I mean, you know, if they have to use
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Speaker 2: plenty of six and seven man protection schemes, I'll take
21:09
Speaker 2: you know, take your chances with the three receivers against
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Speaker 2: Michigan secondary. So obviously don't want to let the Michigan
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Speaker 2: defense defensive line, you know, wreck the game, like if
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Speaker 2: they make occasional plays like a Carter did for Penn State,
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Speaker 2: like you kind of live with that. But I think
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Speaker 2: there's plenty of opportunities with the rest of the Michigan
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Speaker 2: defense that can can hit some things and strength and
21:34
Speaker 2: drives together, all right.
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Speaker 1: And then the last thing I wanted to ask you
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Speaker 1: about is Wink Martindale. You've talked about him a bunch
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Speaker 1: and some of the things that he does. I think
21:42
Speaker 1: people have this sense that he is just Blitz all
21:45
Speaker 1: the time, and it's the return of doctor Blitz, and
21:48
Speaker 1: you know, Don Brown is not walking through that door.
21:51
Speaker 1: They brought FIfF Pogi back recently, former Michigan assistant who
21:55
Speaker 1: was recently fired as the head coach of Charlotte. He
21:57
Speaker 1: has apparently been back in Anober. I have not heard
21:59
Speaker 1: that Don Brown, who was recently fired as a head
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Speaker 1: coach of UMass, has been back there, so doesn't sound
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Speaker 1: like it's exactly done Brown Part two. How how aggressive
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Speaker 1: is wing Martin Dale and how much is that just
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Speaker 1: sort of reputation but not necessarily what you actually see
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Speaker 1: when you watch the Michigan on film.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this has been a point of consternation
22:17
Speaker 2: for some parts of the Michigan fan base earlier this
22:20
Speaker 2: season at least, But I think it's more reputation than
22:23
Speaker 2: what you see on film, particularly the last second half
22:26
Speaker 2: of the season. You know, I think early on there
22:28
Speaker 2: were some pretty obvious situations where like against Texas right
22:32
Speaker 2: where its third and seven and Telegraph cover zero and
22:35
Speaker 2: everyone knew it was cover zero, and like anything else,
22:37
Speaker 2: like if it's predictable, like you can get burnt right
22:39
Speaker 2: that happened against Washington too, or they beat Will Johnson
22:43
Speaker 2: on a third and seven on cover zero.
22:46
Speaker 3: As I said, now it's like a lot more.
22:50
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of Tampa two, like you know,
22:53
Speaker 2: mixing in some cover three. So it's like, you know,
22:55
Speaker 2: they will bring the linebackers and run some fire zones
22:59
Speaker 2: and things like that, but it's not nearly the level
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Speaker 2: of blitzeing that I think some people think, and you know,
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Speaker 2: compared to Don Brown, they're not running that much man coverage,
23:10
Speaker 2: like they'll run some, but it's it's certainly like a
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Speaker 2: you know, a minority of.
23:14
Speaker 3: What they do.
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Speaker 2: But as I said, there continue to be issues with
23:18
Speaker 2: like particularly like putting the you know, putting trips into
23:22
Speaker 2: the short side of the field and like them adjusting
23:26
Speaker 2: to that, Like that's been an issue for Michigan and
23:28
Speaker 2: for Martin Dale this year, and so I would expect
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Speaker 2: lots of that from Ohio State and motions to change,
23:34
Speaker 2: you know, the strength of the formation and a lot
23:36
Speaker 2: of as I said, playing with the field and boundary
23:38
Speaker 2: hash marks.
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23:42
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23:46
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