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Full Show Podcast: 24 March 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens
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Speaker 2: Well, good morning to you, Welcome to the new week. Yes,
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Speaker 2: I am back. Coming up over the next sixty minutes
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Speaker 2: in news that will surprise no one. The United Nations
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Speaker 2: finds GST disproportionately affects support, So is there anything we
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Speaker 2: need to do about it? And we'll have that story
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Speaker 2: for you in five. We've got orders on sport and
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Speaker 2: the drums are beating for Liam Lawson after only two races,
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Speaker 2: also Quz Wiley and as the public surface up to
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Speaker 2: improving their own performance and plotting their own future. We'll
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Speaker 2: talk to the PSA just before six. We'll have this news.
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Speaker 2: We'll have news as it breaks. We'll have correspondence from
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Speaker 2: around the world and around New Zealand. And you can
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Speaker 2: have your say as well by texting me on ninety
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Speaker 2: two ninety two, A small towns applies. It's seven minutes
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Speaker 2: out of five.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: That is Monday, the twenty fourth of March. Pope Francis
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Speaker 2: has arrived back in the Vatican after spending five weeks
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Speaker 2: in hospital being treated for pneumonia. This is the moment
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Speaker 2: when the eighty eight year old made an appearance on
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Speaker 2: the balcony of the Gamelli Hospital in Rome, where crowds
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Speaker 2: of people gathered to see him just before he was discharged.
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Speaker 2: Nice They, like Frank, the Pope had been continuing to
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Speaker 2: work during his time in hospital, but doctors have said
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Speaker 2: he must take two months off full time work. Good
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Speaker 2: luck with that.
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Speaker 3: Imagine being eighty eight years old, being on life threatening
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Speaker 3: you know, having life threatening things every other day, and
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Speaker 3: still leading meetings, still taking executive decisions.
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Speaker 4: It's tenacious if nothing else too.
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Speaker 2: Israel and Gaza, more than fifty thousand Palestinians have been
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Speaker 2: killed during Israel's military campaign in Gaza. That is, according
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Speaker 2: to the territories he must run health ministry. That number
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Speaker 2: equates to round about two point one percent of the
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Speaker 2: two point three million pre war population of the territory,
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Speaker 2: or around one in forty six people in.
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Speaker 3: The United Nations believe that these figures issued by the
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Speaker 3: local health ministry in Gaza are considered reliable. Reports of
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Speaker 3: the number of bodies brought into hospitals and deaths cunted
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Speaker 3: by local health officials and at times the health officials
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Speaker 3: that have issued lists of all of those who've been
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Speaker 3: recorded that including their names.
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Speaker 2: And the main rival to Turkey's president Duwan has been
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Speaker 2: formally arrested and charged with corruption. Ekram immam om Sorry
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Speaker 2: Emma Marghlu, the mayor of Istanbul, is expected to be
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Speaker 2: selected as the opposition Republic People's Party's twenty twenty eight
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Speaker 2: presidential candidate. That ballot happens next week. He denies the allegations.
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Speaker 2: He says they're politically motivated and his attention has sparked
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Speaker 2: off some of the largest protests in more than a decade.
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Speaker 5: They will off.
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Speaker 6: The vaults have been actually snapped by the government.
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Speaker 7: We are almost losing to the democracy.
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Speaker 3: This is very important for us, for children, for feature.
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Speaker 2: And finally, in breaking news, over the past half hour,
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Speaker 2: we've had the news of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney
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Speaker 2: is expected to hold a media conference at about five
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Speaker 2: thirty am our time, where he is expected to call
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Speaker 2: a snap election. If the election is called, the major
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Speaker 2: federal parties will enter a period of full swing campaigning
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Speaker 2: that usually lasts about five to seven weeks. It's ten
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Speaker 2: out to five.
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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
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Speaker 2: It'd be well, it's nice to be back, and it's
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Speaker 2: nice that you're with me now. Last week I was
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Speaker 2: going to give you my thoughts on David Seymour and
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Speaker 2: the lunch program, but I ran out of time And
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Speaker 2: since then, Richard Prebble and Andrea Varance have come out
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Speaker 2: and they've echoed a lot of my thoughts. So what
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Speaker 2: is the best way to run things when it comes
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Speaker 2: to the school lunch program. There's a school in christ
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Speaker 2: Church who wants to opt out of the whole thing,
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Speaker 2: but they've been denied permission by David Seymour. And they're
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Speaker 2: not the first a school and Huntley also tried to
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Speaker 2: opt out until they rebellion by parents. But let's talk
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Speaker 2: about this christ Church school. It's the Hyata Community Campus
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Speaker 2: in christ Church and it's quite different. It's a new school.
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Speaker 2: Its facilities are extraordinary. They teach from year one to thirteen.
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Speaker 2: They preach educational excellence and they have a services program
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Speaker 2: designed by the Ministry of Education and the Defense Forces
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Speaker 2: at Burnham and they have an amazing sports program. This
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Speaker 2: is a great school. They also have a purpose built
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Speaker 2: commercial kitchen. They need the lunches because they're dealing with
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Speaker 2: a big cohort of underprivileged kids. But they say the
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Speaker 2: current fair is just not up to it, and they
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Speaker 2: cite multiple reasons, so they want to have an exemption.
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Speaker 2: They want to do it themselves, thank you very much,
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Speaker 2: but David Seymour says they can't. And David Seymour says
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Speaker 2: the depends on having all schools in for economy of scale.
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Speaker 2: He demands a national program and not a local solution,
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Speaker 2: and frankly, that is totally against Bedrock Act philosophy, which
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Speaker 2: Richard Prebble talked about last week. Act is about free choice.
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Speaker 2: In their early days they promoted voucher systems so consumers
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Speaker 2: had a free choice in procuring public services. And I
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Speaker 2: know this because I was involved with the party right
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Speaker 2: at the start in the nineties. But David now says
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Speaker 2: Wellington knows best. The whole school lunch program is really
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Speaker 2: not though on brand for Seymour, who was always an
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Speaker 2: opponent and should be going for a voucher, should be
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Speaker 2: giving them money so they can buy their lunches, which
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Speaker 2: is what Richard Prebble said. I wonder whether Christopher leux in.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister gave him the school lunch job just
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Speaker 2: to put him in his place. It's twelve after five
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Speaker 2: Andrew Dicks. So every fortnight I'm on the state highways
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Speaker 2: traveling between cities, and I'm always horrified at the twitching
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Speaker 2: driving I see on display. I'm like everyone, I like
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Speaker 2: to get the car up to one hundred and four k,
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Speaker 2: engage the cruise control rock on home in the fast lane.
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Speaker 2: So I was fascinated this weekend to learn that it's
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Speaker 2: illegal in Germany to overtake on the auto barn in
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Speaker 2: the right lane. We drive on the other side of
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Speaker 2: the road. So let's just call that undertaking on motorways.
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Speaker 2: And the reason Germany does this is because drivers don't
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Speaker 2: expect to be undertook. It's a surprise and it can
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Speaker 2: cause accidents. I have lost count of the number of
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Speaker 2: times I'm poodling along in a line of traffic in
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Speaker 2: the fast lane at one hundred and four k and
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Speaker 2: had a car undertake me, and of course they flip
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Speaker 2: me the bird. When I've mentioned this before, I've been
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Speaker 2: told I'm the problem, even though I'm going the maximum
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Speaker 2: allowable speed on our roads. I apparently should change lanes
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Speaker 2: and allow the car that wants to break the law
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Speaker 2: through so that they can then travel on and hassle
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Speaker 2: the next guy in the queue. So I'm gratified to
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Speaker 2: hear that in Germany it's not me but the under
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Speaker 2: taking speeders who are the real risk on our roads.
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Speaker 2: And I say all this while the Gisborne District Council
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Speaker 2: is rebelling against the government's blanket speed limit increases. They
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Speaker 2: say it will cost rate payers more than three hundred
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars for little benefit. And also fifteen people injured
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Speaker 2: on a crash on the only one hundred kilometers an
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Speaker 2: hour section of the Napiertopo Hardway, they want to make
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Speaker 2: the whole thing one hundred k Now, maybe, just maybe,
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Speaker 2: the government's attitude on speed is a little bit of
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Speaker 2: virtue signaling and vote gathering and not actually logical sense.
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Speaker 2: It's five all right now. Martin Brundle gave her the
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Speaker 2: most beautiful eulogy for Eddie Jordan just before the Chinese
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Speaker 2: Formula one. This lovable rascal who started off selling salmon
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Speaker 2: out the back of a van. He's died at the
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Speaker 2: age of seventy six. Aggressive prostate cancer but even while
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Speaker 2: he was poorly he negotiated the release of Adrian Newey
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Speaker 2: from Red Bull to go to Aston Martin. He's the
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Speaker 2: best Formula one engineer on the planet and this might
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Speaker 2: be way Max Resteppin and Liam Lawson are not in
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Speaker 2: competitive cars. So we're going to talk more about this
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Speaker 2: and the bad press that Liam is getting in just
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Speaker 2: a moment's time with Andrew Ordison here on News Talks, HEBB.
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. It is now seventeen after five.
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Speaker 2: A United Nations committee has questioned the fairness of world
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Speaker 2: tax systems and GST and New Zealand system. A statement
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Speaker 2: from the Committee for Economic, Social and Cultural Rights calls
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Speaker 2: for countries to check the taxes being applied proportionally to
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Speaker 2: the wealthiest individuals, and it says countries could focus on
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Speaker 2: more direct income taxation rather than taxes like our GST,
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Speaker 2: and they should tax large companies, particularly multinationals. So I've
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Speaker 2: got the partner from PwC, Sandy down with me right now.
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Speaker 2: Good one to you, Sandy.
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Speaker 5: Good morning, Andrew.
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Speaker 2: So the UN says tax policies could disproportionately affect low
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Speaker 2: income households, women and disadvantage groups.
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Speaker 5: How look, I think the topic around Senners and the
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Speaker 5: tax system is not a new one, and in particular,
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Speaker 5: you'll probably remember there was quite a lot of discussion
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Speaker 5: around this in New Zealand in twenty twenty three, where
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Speaker 5: in then Revenue did a research project on the High
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Speaker 5: Weald individuals and where they found that group their effective
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Speaker 5: tax right across their economic income was around nine percent,
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Speaker 5: while the average income family was about around twenty percent.
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Speaker 5: But it's not as simple as looking at the tax
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Speaker 5: rate across different income levels. While the idea of Senners
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Speaker 5: is important, we want to also need to make sure
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Speaker 5: that the tax system doesn't create additional barriers for economic growth.
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Speaker 5: So there's a little bit more nuanced than that then
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Speaker 5: just saying, you know, we want to increase our corporate
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Speaker 5: tax rate or putting a higher personal tax rate, because
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Speaker 5: in the front of corporate tax rate, our company tax
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Speaker 5: rate needs to be competitive so that we can attract
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Speaker 5: that really important foreign investment in New Zealand as well.
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Speaker 5: So there's really a case of growing the pie is
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Speaker 5: probably likely to be there there for everyone. So it's
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Speaker 5: important when we think about our tax system we don't
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Speaker 5: end up with one that creates more barriers for us
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Speaker 5: to achieve that growth.
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Speaker 2: True enough enough, The fundamental foreign our economy though, is
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Speaker 2: that the government does not have enough revenue to sustain
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Speaker 2: our development, just to fund you just a business. So
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Speaker 2: politicians are reticent to get rid of GST. The question
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Speaker 2: is and what this UN committee asked, should they?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the GCT one's an interesting angle because from New
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Speaker 5: Zealand's perspective, our GC system is often seen as world class,
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Speaker 5: and that's because it applies so broadly and at pretty
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Speaker 5: much everything at the same rate. So there's a very
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Speaker 5: efficient tax and as you alluded to, it does bring
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Speaker 5: in quite a lot of taxes collected for New Zealand.
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Speaker 5: It's about a quarter of it, so I think last
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Speaker 5: year's around twenty nine billion dollars. It's not small bookies,
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Speaker 5: And I guess the key question is that it's not
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Speaker 5: as simple as just reducing that GST rate or maybe
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Speaker 5: we will record discussions around it making certain things GST free,
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Speaker 5: because one that's very expensive and to the other things
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Speaker 5: that's not very well targeted, and it's not really entirely
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Speaker 5: clear from evidence that that whether that reduction will get
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Speaker 5: passed on to your end customers, which is your lower
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Speaker 5: income households and things like that. But there might be
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Speaker 5: something in it because GS is quite regressive. It can
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Speaker 5: be regressive, and so looking at how we make that
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Speaker 5: more progressive could be a good idea.
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Speaker 2: So Andy, thank you so much for your thoughts and
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Speaker 2: your expertise. Today it is five twenty. I doubt if
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Speaker 2: DST will ever go. We can't. It's new so be
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Speaker 2: Orders is next.
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Speaker 2: Youth talg zibby Andrew Orison, Welcome men to the show.
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Speaker 2: Greetings Andrew so put on. Liam Lawson is getting just
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Speaker 2: the most phenomenally bad press.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah he is, And well it's gonna be up
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Speaker 8: to him to turn around, and I like it's this
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Speaker 8: team as well, But ultimately it falls on him, doesn't it.
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Speaker 8: He's moved up to twelfth with three DI qualifications after
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Speaker 8: initially finishing fifteenth in Shanghai but to me, max of
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Speaker 8: stuff and not doing much better either into fourth as
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Speaker 8: a result of that. But McLaren going strong, Oscar Piastre
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Speaker 8: winning the race too.
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Speaker 2: I think the car is rubbish and the only way
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Speaker 2: that Red Bull is competitive is that Max is a genius.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yep, that could be the case. It's got so
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Speaker 8: much experience under the bonnet, so to speak now after
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Speaker 8: all those years, and is a depending world champion. But
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Speaker 8: I think Liam Lawson, I mean, the timing's not great
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Speaker 8: going in there, and it's and ultimately it falls with him,
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Speaker 8: but it's it's showcased again why Formula ones that are
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Speaker 8: team sport as much as anything.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and also why it's also the Parana school. Yeah yeah, okay,
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Speaker 2: it's not far wrong. Very sad news. Gris Wiley has
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Speaker 2: died at eighty. I mean the first player that I idolized
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Speaker 2: because I remember the Lions touring seventy one and Grizz
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Speaker 2: and I remember him being in the back seat with
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Speaker 2: the sombrero one and the hats, you know, with Tanne
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Speaker 2: Norton and all that. I didn't think anything would ever
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Speaker 2: get to Grizz.
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Speaker 8: I know, and Gris just such a formidable you know,
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Speaker 8: two to force really across the game for decades. But
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Speaker 8: as you say, as a player, all black and of
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Speaker 8: course such a formidable member of that Canterbury squad in
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Speaker 8: the sixties and seventies. But then I think probably I
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Speaker 8: mean for my generation at least remembering him as a
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Speaker 8: coach as much as anything. I mean, that tremendous record
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Speaker 8: he had with well, ultimately with Canterbury, winning the Repleet
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Speaker 8: should in eighty two, leading on through the National Championship
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Speaker 8: and then the Rapley She'll Challenge of eighty five. When
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Speaker 8: I was younger, you know what, eight years old at
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Speaker 8: the time, in just that twenty eight twenty three and
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Speaker 8: what did you say at halftime that there's the ball.
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Speaker 8: They've scored twenty four as you can do the same
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Speaker 8: with something of that, you know, various versions of.
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Speaker 2: That magnificent game Lancaster Park full to the gunnals.
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Speaker 8: I watched that Kerwin whacking the ball over the dead
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Speaker 8: ball line, which would be looked upon differently today, and
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Speaker 8: then going on to coach the All Blacks and so
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Speaker 8: formidably with you know, in the buckshelf of the Air,
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Speaker 8: I mean, had that controversy as well with bringback Buck.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, he was.
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Speaker 8: It was a phenomenal period, wasn't we. I think they
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Speaker 8: meant nineteen games without a loss there and just taking
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Speaker 8: over from Briyla wore.
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Speaker 2: Grauff and tough but lovable underneath.
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Speaker 8: I had a couple of dealings with him and he
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Speaker 8: was tremendous. When you wanted to get hold of him,
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Speaker 8: he was he was always available. So yeah, Rip Griz.
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Speaker 9: Andrew, Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Five twenty five.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 2: Look, while I was tramping all over the top of
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Speaker 2: the Commandal peninsula, we had some good and bad news
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Speaker 2: about our economy. GDP came out better than we expected,
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Speaker 2: a range of point seven percent in the fourth quarter,
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Speaker 2: which should signal the start of green shoots and recovery
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Speaker 2: and confidence. But at the same time, the consumer confidence
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Speaker 2: figure came out and it was the worst we've seen
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Speaker 2: since the nineties. And then Paul Bloxham, the Australian economists
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Speaker 2: who invented the rock Star economy name, came out and said,
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Speaker 2: our recession has been the worst in the CECD So
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Speaker 2: what happened there and why aren't we confident and why
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Speaker 2: was our recession so hard? And here is my take.
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Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank and the government need to start working together.
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Speaker 2: During the pandemic, the bank slashed the interest rates while
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Speaker 2: the government turbocharged spending, leading of course to what we
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Speaker 2: know the hangover that needed medicine. The previous government rightly
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Speaker 2: blamed for the mess it was responsible for. But we've
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Speaker 2: been double hit by the bank and the government. They
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Speaker 2: pulled all the leavers. So then the new government came
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Speaker 2: in to fix things and promptly slash spending to reduce boring.
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Speaker 2: Good move, and also reduced revenue through tax cuts. But
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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank had already started attacking inflation a year
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Speaker 2: before with interest rates, so once again we were doubly
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Speaker 2: hit and we got some tax cuts. Which was that
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Speaker 2: the right thing to do at the right time. Ran
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Speaker 2: O'Sullivan six weeks ago described the tax cuts as badly timed.
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Speaker 2: It meant we weren't paying back debt. We're still struggling
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Speaker 2: just to pay the interests. So, as Paul Bloxham has
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Speaker 2: now described, we had an excessive pandemic reaction followed by
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Speaker 2: an excessive inflation reaction. Now all the stuff that all
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Speaker 2: the parties did is technically correct in macroeconomics. And this
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Speaker 2: is easy to criticize the twenty twenty hindsight, but it
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Speaker 2: has been as though the left hand and the right
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Speaker 2: hand doesn't know what each other are doing, which means
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Speaker 2: it was tough, which means now our recovery will be slow.
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Speaker 2: All the parties claim they are the prudent fiscal managers,
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Speaker 2: and all reserve bank governors claim the same, but if
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Speaker 2: you look back over the past five years, that's simply
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Speaker 2: not been true. They've been working against each other other
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Speaker 2: and we did it hard. And the reason I mentioned
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Speaker 2: all of this is because we need to learn from
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Speaker 2: this unless we want to keep on reeling from boom
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Speaker 2: to bus over and over again.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, all right, I've.
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Speaker 2: Got a number of people saying you don't know the
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Speaker 2: basic rule of the road, which is keep left. Of
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Speaker 2: course I do. I've been driving for fifty years. The
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Speaker 2: basic rule of the road is don't go over one
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Speaker 2: hundred kilometers an hour. Which rule is more important? Hey,
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Speaker 2: Uber drivers are going to get time off work so
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Speaker 2: that more women can actually drive ubers. More on that
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Speaker 2: with Gavin Gray in a few mothers time.
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Speaker 2: Page wanted to welcome to your week. Thank you so
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Speaker 2: much the Truth in Program. Imrew Dickinson from iron Bridge,
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Speaker 2: So thank you to Francesca who filled in for me
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Speaker 2: on Thursday and Friday. On Thursday and Friday, I was
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Speaker 2: walking the Pahi Coastal Track which is at the top
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Speaker 2: of the Coramndler. What a brilliant walk, brilliant weather, brilliant
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Speaker 2: bunch of people. Lovely couple from Taradown I used to
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Speaker 2: be at we and Pagett, a lovely couple from Martin
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Speaker 2: they sell Hamilton jets. And five forty something women from
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Speaker 2: the North Shore who were an absolute hoot. They spent
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Speaker 2: the whole walk drinking rose from Jim Bottles and I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about a twenty one k walk on the second
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Speaker 2: day and they talked the whole way around is this
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Speaker 2: and that and kids and that? And they laughed and
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Speaker 2: they laughed. That is a so they laughed and they laughed.
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Speaker 2: It was absolutely hilarious. These women were fantastic fun and
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Speaker 2: we all got together, were all sorts of different agents.
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Speaker 2: Now look I cannot stress how good this walk is.
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Speaker 2: It is the Pahi Coastal Track at the top of
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Speaker 2: the Coramantle and congratulations, it's a private track is run
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Speaker 2: by farmers. The farmers at the Port Jackson station. They
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Speaker 2: came up with the idea and it's a classic example
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Speaker 2: of farm diversification. Make money, not just from the animals
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Speaker 2: and the grass. Now, of course, everyone's getting stuck into
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Speaker 2: me about my comments about driving, Linda says Andrew. It's
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Speaker 2: illegal to sit in the fast lane of the autobarn
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Speaker 2: in Germany unless you're actively overtaking. I can't believe that
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Speaker 2: you sit out in the fast lane controlling the speed
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Speaker 2: of other traffic. I always thought you were intelligent, Linda.
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Speaker 2: I never said I sit out in the fast lane
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Speaker 2: controlling the speed of other traffic. I drove home from
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Speaker 2: the Parki Coastal Track yesterday on the motorway. I'm in
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Speaker 2: a queue of about twenty cars. We're all going one
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Speaker 2: hundred k. We're in the fast lane. We're actually going
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Speaker 2: one hundred and four k. But there was a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of guys who buzz around and try undertaking because
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Speaker 2: they think they can get ahead. They never did. Now,
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Speaker 2: who's being dangerous here at the undertakers or the group
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Speaker 2: of twenty people who are doing the very fastest speed
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Speaker 2: on the road. Yes, the basic rule is keep left.
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Speaker 2: And yes, if I'm the only one in the fast lane,
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Speaker 2: I will keep left and watch the idiots go screaming past.
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Speaker 2: And yes, that is the police's job to police that
19:58
Speaker 2: not mine. How just watch all the drivers, and watch
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Speaker 2: the undertakers, and watch the risks they take to gain
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Speaker 2: another two seconds on the rope maybe, and you tell
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Speaker 2: me whether I'm the dangerous one or they're the dangerous one.
20:13
Speaker 2: Now on the lunches. By the way, Grant also says
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Speaker 2: my old school was getting the kids to help make
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Speaker 2: the lunches. It was teaching them how to cook. Totally agree.
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Speaker 2: Let the schools decide who needs the lunches. They know
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Speaker 2: who needs it. It is twenty one to six, Dickens.
20:28
Speaker 2: Why let's go around the country and we're going to
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Speaker 2: christ Church first class. Herewood joins us, and good morning
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Speaker 2: to you.
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Speaker 4: Claire, Good morning.
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Speaker 2: I am so amped for to Kaha the new stadium.
20:38
Speaker 2: I know it's almost there, is looking brilliant already tell
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Speaker 2: me the latest.
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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, we're.
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Speaker 7: Really excited for Takaha. It's hard to miss it if
20:45
Speaker 7: you're driving around christ Church at the moment. But interestingly
20:48
Speaker 7: today mark's the penultimate birthday for the temporary stadium that
20:52
Speaker 7: we've had in christ Church.
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Speaker 2: Now for the.
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Speaker 7: Cantabs listening, they'll remember it as the old Rugby League Park.
20:58
Speaker 7: It has had several names since opened in twenty twelve,
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Speaker 7: which was post earthquake, and that was due to the
21:03
Speaker 7: permanent closure of the old Lancaster Park. The stadium that's
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Speaker 7: now known as Apollo Projects Stadium, was initially intended to
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Speaker 7: last somewhere between three and five years, but today celebrates
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Speaker 7: thirteen years since opening. In that time, it's hosted more
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Speaker 7: than three hundred events, including nine major concerts, five in
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Speaker 7: Our Roll Games and two major international tournaments as well venues.
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Speaker 7: AU Tootahi chief executive Carolyn Harvey Tears says the stadium
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Speaker 7: has played a massive role in christ Church's recovery. The
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Speaker 7: Council's confirmed the grand stand, as well as some other structures,
21:37
Speaker 7: will be removed once Tekaha opens in April next year.
21:42
Speaker 7: The old stadium, though or the temporary one, is set
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Speaker 7: to host its one hundred and fourteenth Crusaders match this
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Speaker 7: weekend when we take on Moana Pacifica on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Still a good venue for a concert, that stadium. I
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Speaker 2: have to say, Now, how's your weather?
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Speaker 11: Well, a bit.
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Speaker 7: Miserable and rainy this morning, but it will clear this afternoon.
21:58
Speaker 7: Easterly is developing and the h I should be seventeen to.
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Speaker 2: Wellington we go next. Talk good morning to you. Hello, Max, Hello,
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Speaker 2: Can you not hear me?
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Speaker 9: I can?
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Speaker 2: Indeed, so public servants, the heat is on again with them.
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Speaker 2: I see that the Commissioner has actually done a survey
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Speaker 2: saying figure out how to do stuff better?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's exactly right. Well, look, first and foremost more
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Speaker 11: jobs are going this year. That's a given, and perhaps
22:22
Speaker 11: more of a piecemeal fashion than last year. So in
22:26
Speaker 11: this latest public service census, thousands of civil servants being
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Speaker 11: asked to identify potential areas for further cost cutting, to
22:33
Speaker 11: identify whether their work contributes to better outcomes. It's all
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Speaker 11: very bureaucratic, whether it provides value for taxpayers In doing this,
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Speaker 11: Public Service Commission says it wants to seek better value
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Speaker 11: for money. The focus of its census, it says, changes
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Speaker 11: year to year, and I think overall this year it
22:51
Speaker 11: might be more of a scalpel approach than a chain server. Interestingly,
22:55
Speaker 11: I found staff also being asked about their managers and
22:57
Speaker 11: whether they think their managers care about deliver and good
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Speaker 11: value for taxpayers. So if you're a public servants, speak
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Speaker 11: up now if you don't like your boss.
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Speaker 2: Very good stuff. And we're talking to the PSA about
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Speaker 2: this census and what they should do about it and
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Speaker 2: whether they're into it. Now, how's your weather.
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Speaker 11: In partly cloudy today with the odd shower clearing to
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Speaker 11: find this afternoon eighteen the high central.
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Speaker 2: All right, and now to what can we go and
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Speaker 2: neave a ret a man who joins us come on
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Speaker 2: in there.
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Speaker 4: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: So we've got a piece of work from CF Goldie
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Speaker 2: Charles Frederick Goldry.
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Speaker 6: Yes, no, this is very very exciting Andrew, because this
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Speaker 6: piece of work is up for auction in Auckland today.
23:30
Speaker 6: It's called Souvenirs from the Field of Battle. Now this
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Speaker 6: kick started his career as an artist when it was
23:36
Speaker 6: first exhibited in eighteen ninety. Emily Gardner, the webs director
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Speaker 6: of Arts, says, look, it's expected to sell for up
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Speaker 6: to seventy five thousand. She said it's a good opportunity
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Speaker 6: for collectors to own a piece of New Zealand art history.
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Speaker 6: But you know what really makes this one special. It
23:52
Speaker 6: was painted when he was just nineteen, so it's really
23:55
Speaker 6: the first time he had exhibited publicly.
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Speaker 2: Very good South. How's Hawkin's weather?
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Speaker 11: Fine?
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Speaker 6: Another lovely fine day. No sign of rain at all today,
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Speaker 6: a high twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Don't boast it's running in north Otago, terrible ale. Yes,
24:09
Speaker 2: so it needs some good morning to you, and I
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Speaker 2: thank you. It is as seventeen minutes to six and
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Speaker 2: the text through undertakers are not something you want to
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Speaker 2: see on the motorway by definition, and that's so true.
24:19
Speaker 2: Good line by the way, the Texas says Winner's head
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Speaker 2: the coming back, and I can tell you round about.
24:23
Speaker 2: I think it's April the twelfth, April the thirteenth, round about.
24:27
Speaker 2: Then everything's going well with her and Barry. Now Pope
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Speaker 2: Francis has been discharged from hospital. We'll talk to Gavin
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Speaker 2: Gray about this. And every Uber driver in the UK
24:36
Speaker 2: will be eligible for twenty hours of free childcare. Why
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Speaker 2: that's next on news Stork.
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Speaker 1: Zebbi International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
24:46
Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business.
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Speaker 2: It's fourteen to six. Gavin Gray from the UK, Good
24:51
Speaker 2: morning to you, hither, great news. Pope Francis is out
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Speaker 2: of hospital but needs two months off.
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Speaker 10: Yes, the eight eight year old has been discharged. He
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Speaker 10: was pictured and offered a blessing the window or on
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Speaker 10: a very small sort of balcony at the Gamelli Hospital
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Speaker 10: in Rome where he's being treated. He was admitted there
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Speaker 10: on the fourteenth of a long stay some five weeks
25:17
Speaker 10: there and during that time we now know he had
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Speaker 10: what's been described as two very critical episodes where according
25:23
Speaker 10: to doctors, his life was in danger, though we now
25:26
Speaker 10: understand he was never actually intubated that's the tube into
25:30
Speaker 10: the throat, but always remained alert and orientated. But nevertheless,
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Speaker 10: I think this shows just how poorly the Pope has
25:37
Speaker 10: been And yeah, this couple of months off, the doctors
25:41
Speaker 10: are basically ordering because he he still sounded pretty pretty poor.
25:46
Speaker 10: Earlier this month there was an audio recording and his
25:49
Speaker 10: voice there was really pretty breathless. So needs a lot
25:52
Speaker 10: of rest and recuperation. And there will be plenty around
25:55
Speaker 10: the world celebrating his release from hospital today.
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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, good luck with that though. Pope Francis
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Speaker 2: is a man married to his job and he wants
26:03
Speaker 2: to work, but he should take two months off for
26:06
Speaker 2: his own health. Now every Uber driver in the UK
26:09
Speaker 2: will now be eligible for twenty hours of free childcait.
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Speaker 10: Why well, it's meant to try and encourage and recruit
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Speaker 10: more staff, particularly more female drivers. Now Here in the UK,
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Speaker 10: childcare is incredibly expensive. In fact, it's so expensive that
26:29
Speaker 10: many mothers actually don't return to the workforce because they
26:32
Speaker 10: think they'll be worse off because the cost of childcare
26:35
Speaker 10: outweighs their net earnings for the job they're doing. And
26:38
Speaker 10: so this is an attempt by Uber to try and
26:40
Speaker 10: get more women in. And what they're saying is they
26:44
Speaker 10: will allow people to use an app which means they
26:48
Speaker 10: can book nannying and babysitting. Now, twenty hours of free
26:53
Speaker 10: childcare doesn't sound like a lot, and I suppose it isn't,
26:56
Speaker 10: but it is something that they believe really will help
26:58
Speaker 10: spend the tie up if you was in and around
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Speaker 10: London and it is always men, so Uber trying to
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Speaker 10: attract more women drivers. There are one hundred thousand Uber
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Speaker 10: drivers in the UK and their unions or at least
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Speaker 10: a union which represents some of those drivers said this
27:14
Speaker 10: is really a cynical pr stunt. They said they should
27:17
Speaker 10: pay the drivers more, not fiddle around the edges with
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Speaker 10: incentives like this and say, according to some anyway that
27:24
Speaker 10: their wages have fallen in the year despite prices being
27:29
Speaker 10: increased for customers. So yeah, the union really playing this
27:32
Speaker 10: down Uber saying it's a great scheme, and certainly one
27:35
Speaker 10: or two of the drivers that they've put forward to
27:37
Speaker 10: speak of saying, yeah, it is going to make life
27:39
Speaker 10: much easier.
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Speaker 2: Good stuff going, and I thank you. And it is
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Speaker 2: now eleven to six Andrew Dickens. So, as you heard
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Speaker 2: with Max told just a few moments ago, the Public
27:47
Speaker 2: Service has been asked by the government to figure out
27:49
Speaker 2: how they could make more cuts. Thousands of workers have
27:52
Speaker 2: been asked in an internal census to identify areas for
27:55
Speaker 2: further cost cutting across every government agency and the results
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Speaker 2: are expected in July. So PSA Assistant Secretary flurf that
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Speaker 2: Simon's joins me. Now, hello, flu, good morning. So Commissioner
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Speaker 2: Brian Roach commissioned this. He's been very insistent that the
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Speaker 2: public service start to drive performance themselves. How open is
28:14
Speaker 2: the service to this sort of thing?
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Speaker 12: A lot of people are very willing to share their
28:20
Speaker 12: ideas about how the public service can be run better.
28:23
Speaker 12: But it's hard to take this government seriously on this
28:25
Speaker 12: given they imposed harsh and deep cuts without any consultation
28:30
Speaker 12: of this nature with public servants. They had government departments
28:33
Speaker 12: come up with proposals in compete isolation from what people
28:37
Speaker 12: actually think who are doing the job. So it's really
28:39
Speaker 12: hard to take them seriously. But also it's important to
28:41
Speaker 12: remember this is a regular census. It happens every five years.
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Speaker 12: We don't think that it's going to be able to
28:47
Speaker 12: deliver the kind of harsh cuts that the government's already
28:50
Speaker 12: imposed in the future because there is just nothing more
28:53
Speaker 12: to cut, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, So you're saying there's nothing more to cut the government, Well.
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Speaker 12: The government has already dismissed hundreds of public servants, including
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Speaker 12: people like dog trainers and customs people who work on
29:09
Speaker 12: the frontline of stopping the digital harm and exploitation that
29:14
Speaker 12: happens to children, people who try and help intercept scams
29:17
Speaker 12: that often target the elderly. So if the government is
29:21
Speaker 12: actually serious about investing in public services that deliver to
29:24
Speaker 12: New Zealanders, it won't make further cuts are there rooms
29:28
Speaker 12: for efficiencies. Absolutely, do public servants have good ideas about
29:31
Speaker 12: how to find them, Yes, they do, and we really
29:34
Speaker 12: hope that the government will listen to what public servants
29:37
Speaker 12: say that not just through the survey, through all sorts
29:40
Speaker 12: of interactions that including the union actually does and we
29:43
Speaker 12: actually did ourselves prior to the round of cups do
29:47
Speaker 12: some surveys with public servants and came up with a
29:50
Speaker 12: whole range of ways that the public service could be
29:52
Speaker 12: more efficient that the government never listened to.
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Speaker 2: But this is why the census has happened. This is
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Speaker 2: why Brian Roach has asked. But they're asking you for
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Speaker 2: the ideas, and you've just said to me there are
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Speaker 2: no more places for cuts. And there is a there's
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Speaker 2: a perception that the public servants are so reticent about
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Speaker 2: this and they don't want to provide better value for money.
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Speaker 12: No, the sense has happened every five years anyway. What
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Speaker 12: I'm saying is it asks a whole range of questions.
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Speaker 12: For example, it asks about the appetite for risk in
30:19
Speaker 12: a particular agency. It asks for the workloads, how high
30:23
Speaker 12: are your workload? Is it manageable? It asks a whole
30:25
Speaker 12: lot of questions about working from home. Are you paid fairly?
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Speaker 12: But it's not going to deliver the kind of roadmap
30:33
Speaker 12: for further cuts that the government is looking for. There
30:37
Speaker 12: is no room to cut further. It's been cut to
30:40
Speaker 12: the bone. You are going to further undermine the services
30:43
Speaker 12: that New Zealanders rely on if you make cuts to
30:46
Speaker 12: our surisht and important public service.
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Speaker 2: Well, you keep saying there's no room for cuts, and
30:50
Speaker 2: you're you're making an assumption before you know. The results
30:54
Speaker 2: aren't out until July, and you're already making that assumption.
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Speaker 12: Well, what I'll tell you is that this already been
31:01
Speaker 12: so significant a cut to the work that our public
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Speaker 12: servants do, we are unable to attract and retain people already.
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Speaker 12: This government is not going to find through this survey
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Speaker 12: a whole lot of ways that can cut more jobs
31:17
Speaker 12: or save more money. What we actually need to see
31:19
Speaker 12: is a commitment to the public service and more investment.
31:22
Speaker 12: And that's not the purpose of the survey anyway.
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Speaker 2: One final question, though I don't know if you watched
31:26
Speaker 2: Q and A yesterday and had the outgoing on. Woodsman
31:29
Speaker 2: Peter Bouchier very critical of the public service, particularly health
31:32
Speaker 2: and corrections, and he said they were talking about, are
31:36
Speaker 2: public servants dedicated to providing value for money?
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Speaker 12: New Zealand has a corruption free, high quality public service
31:44
Speaker 12: that is renowned worldwide. Is there room for improvement? Absolutely?
31:50
Speaker 12: Are we going to stand as a way of positive
31:52
Speaker 12: improvement that makes the ability of public servants that deliver
31:55
Speaker 12: their jobs? Well, no we're not, but yes there's grook
31:58
Speaker 12: to do. But let's also the people that do this
32:01
Speaker 12: important work too.
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Speaker 2: Flur, Thank you so much for your time today for
32:04
Speaker 2: Fitzsimon's PSA's Assistant secretary.
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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
32:10
Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one Room make your property
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Speaker 1: surge and symbol you talk sippy.
32:17
Speaker 2: See we go I talk about. Question of the day
32:18
Speaker 2: is that the Gisbon District councilor is taking the government
32:20
Speaker 2: to court over their demand to raise the speed limits.
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Speaker 2: They say it's going to cost three hundred and twenty
32:24
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and they're asking whether the rate payers are
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Speaker 2: prepared to pay that to get ten k more speed limits?
32:31
Speaker 2: Are you yes or no? Michael?
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Speaker 4: A lot of money being the funger A people met
32:36
Speaker 4: last week were standing by for a court case. They
32:38
Speaker 4: were arguing over fluoriding, and so they spent tens of
32:41
Speaker 4: thousands of dollars they openly admit they don't have, have
32:44
Speaker 4: not budgeted for to go to court to argue yet
32:47
Speaker 4: more problems. We're talking about parking finds. Actually I can't
32:50
Speaker 4: remember last time I got a parking ticket. Anyway, they
32:52
Speaker 4: don't win. They hand out a parking ticket, turns out
32:55
Speaker 4: sort of if you don't pay it, which most people
32:57
Speaker 4: don't because they're so enraged about the reason they got
32:59
Speaker 4: the park ticket, which is because of bus lanes and
33:01
Speaker 4: stuff like that. Seems no one follows you up, no,
33:06
Speaker 4: until the courts do, and then well the courts do.
33:08
Speaker 4: They eventually in some sort of it arrived in the mail,
33:11
Speaker 4: but I didn't see it kind of it never really
33:13
Speaker 4: gets paid kind of way. So there's some sort of
33:15
Speaker 4: concern about that. This morning, Winston Peter's on a speech
33:17
Speaker 4: yesterday and his relationship with Hopkinson and your public service thing.
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Speaker 4: Judith Collins, who's in chargeable all this and doing the survey,
33:24
Speaker 4: will be with us on the time.
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Speaker 2: There is a remarkable interview. The more I see you
33:28
Speaker 2: can make cats, no we can't, No, we can't, no,
33:30
Speaker 2: we can't are.
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Speaker 4: None so blind as those who will not see.
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Speaker 9: Very nice.
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Speaker 2: All right, my name is Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge.
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Speaker 9: I'll be back again tomorrow.
33:39
Speaker 2: Thank you to producing ens.
33:40
Speaker 9: Have a great day.
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