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Bears Over Beers: Big Jeff and Bears Prepare For Prime Time vs. Bucs · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_00]: Coming off a huge victory over the Seattle Seahawks, this past Monday night, Brian, I think it's time to drink a little bourbon tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's bears over bourbon for me, maybe bears over beers for Brian Orange, I'm Brian how you doing this evening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: doing fantastic, my man, as I texted you before the show, I was unaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It caught me unaware that my 30 day detox concluded today, so I have already had a couple barrel-aged stouts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I might be with you on the bourbon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have to wait and find out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, extremely excited, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two back to back prime time victories.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, record-breaking, um, attendance audience, uh, you know, television records being set and, and back to back weeks for us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, gosh, man, it's a good time to be a bears fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to get into L. H. F. A.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Big Jeff A.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this, this evening as well, but, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, let's, let's get to the drinks, man, because I've not had a real one in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to go first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm actually going to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With a beer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a delicious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never tried this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a 10 W 40 pumpkin latte from high wire brewing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's near me in Asheville, North Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Imperial Stout, rude with spice while a ginger, cinnamon nutmeg, all spice, clove, coffee, vanilla and lactose contains alcohol, 8% to be exact, but I'm not going to leave you
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[SPEAKER_01]: because I want all the smoke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got some hazelnuts, subtle smoke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a new variety I recently acquired before my detox.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I generously shared with some friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still have some, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna do a little shot tonight to start us off in my bear shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bear shot from gosh, this is roughly 25 years old, this shot glass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to do a nice shot with us tonight before I get into my pumpkin latte.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm excited, man, it's a good time to be alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before I do this, what do you got?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I couldn't remember if I said I drink bourbon if the bears beat Seattle, but I was thinking I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I may not have, but hey, what the hell?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a huge win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, it was looking for something that I had that would be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's Seattle theme or Tampa theme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that I could point to but I did have this which kind of fits the bill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is a bourbon from Utah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's called High West.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's from Park City, Utah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had this for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: about a month and a half ago, one of my uncles was in town from Texas and my cousin went to still going to the University of Utah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he was out there and he had gotten some of high-west bourbon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His was like the cast strength.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was really, really strong stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I enjoyed to go ask that with him and then I looked it up and I'm like, can I even get that around here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: and sure enough, one store here in eastern Iowa, stocks high west bourbon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I picked it up and I'm going to just go ahead and read the back because you know, look, I like bourbon, but I'm not like a bourbon snob, but this is a vivid description here, Brian, of this bourbon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it says, meet the American West most innovative and inviting bourbon, a blend of straight bourbon whisky's aged a minimum of two years in charred white American oak barrels, never chill filtered or carbon-treated and utilizing a variety of high-ry content mashed bills to convey and earthy complexity with a bit of spice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The perfect marriage of richness and brightness
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[SPEAKER_00]: Newget, sweet cornbread biscuits and lemon zest with caramel apples and peacock pie lingering on the finish, whether sipped or stirred this bourbon is blended to be your tried and true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My goodness, I don't know if I've ever heard a better description of a bourbon in my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I haven't had this particular version.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the cast strength, but that sounds pretty dang good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So of course, I like High West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had it before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a campfire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of another smoky variety I've had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My first time was actually in Utah trying it out, backpacking with some loved ones and it's really tasty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So cheers to a huge win, a celebratory toast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yes, there's a bourbon, there's no man happy to be with you, happy to be with you all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's smooth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good stuff, it's good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know why, but I felt my uncle might have told me it was the only distiller in Utah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Could that possibly be right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with all the Mormons, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, or maybe one of the few, but yeah, it's good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: High-west checking out actually is available all around the country.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and that looks good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know what they have really been cutting down on pumpkin beers around here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been able to find that many, and I love pumpkin beers as you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have had my share of pumpkin spice lattes this year because I don't care what people think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love me a pumpkin spice latte and I will keep drinking them as long as they're out, probably through Thanksgiving, but I need to get some more pumpkin beer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will live by carryously through you, my man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and I actually picked up a few for my wife and I's anniversary next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I like it as a stout.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like as a pumpkin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, you can't really taste the pumpkin in this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I'll let it marinate on me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I just down the shot of bourbon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that could be influencing my taste buzz at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I love, I love a good stout.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a barrel aged stout before the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do taste the spices, but I don't taste any pumpkin, which is fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like a good start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love stouts on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not as much of a pumpkin flavor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so dark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, literally it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really dark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 10W40 oil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a pretty looking beer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just honored to drink it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been on a drought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can I host bears overbears show without drinking beer?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we don't discriminate around here, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All you're welcome in our table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had to knock on a clock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've drinking tea on this show, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thought it would never be done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you didn't bat a nod.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No judgment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no judgment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Loving me anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm back, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's go.
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8:09
[SPEAKER_00]: and Brian you mentioned the record breaking Monday night football audience and how that was following up the record breaking Thursday night football audience and now this week we got Sunday night football and we talked about this on the show before but with the Chicago Bears have right now has been kind of the ultimate unicorn for the national football league they have been waiting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for the Chicago Bears to have a superstar quarterback A and B a contending team that will seemingly be in contention year after year after year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen how the bears have fans have traveled, see out aluminum field, arguably the hardest place to play in the NFL was overrun with Chicago Bears fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was unbelievable on Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The 34 to 17 victory
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where does that rank for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say of the Ben Johnson era.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we're only year and a half in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the best win so far of the Ben Johnson era do you still give the nod to a game last year, whether it's the Packers or the Eagles domination on Black Friday?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, where does it rank for you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're only considering regular season,
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[SPEAKER_01]: This surpasses the Eagles Black Friday game for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that game was fantastic, it still is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's back when the Eagles were at the height of their powers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fresh off a Super Bowl, dominating weekend and we got, I don't remember the records at the time, but they were the favorite in that game and we were in Philly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this game surpasses that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if I go even pre-ben Johnson,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is 2018 against the Rams when we won that game and they went on the win the Super Bowl that year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, you know, Vic Fangio's coming out party.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that game again, that was, you know, we talk about being a bearous fan and how it's, it's a stellar defense
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, that carries the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what it was that day too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I feel like we didn't have more than 18 points that game we won.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just, we just really shut down, coggurly and Jared Goff, and that, and Sean McVay's offense that day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that game, that game was a game that we shouldn't have won we did, and it just infused all of us fans with confidence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this game was just like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Except, we had all three phases involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The domination from Caleb Williams and the offense and Ben Johnson is masterclass and play calling and the pace of the game and the offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I talked about today in my article,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't get spoken of enough how adaptable the Andre Swift and that offensive line have been with what Ben is throwing at them, whether it's up tempo, no huddle offense, or Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: manipulating the call to line a scrimmage, knowing exactly what he's calling or going into.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In a few times, this past game, he checked out of it and then he got back into it, if you noticed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for the rest of the offense to not skip a beat, it just says so much about their preparation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the
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[SPEAKER_01]: the grind of the off season and the regular season and they talk about practicing, making it harder than the games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is when that comes to fruition, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just beautiful to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we didn't have that in 2018.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have an offense that was a step ahead of an elite defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by the way, now we have an elite defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like Jeffrey Simmons, I mentioned that my article too, speaking of 2018, it was reminiscent of Max Angler performance in 2018, except we won.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like people forget it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't talk about how Mac dominate that game, but we lost against Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You like it sucked at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the end Bay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care how many stats any of our players have against Green Bay if we lose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for Jeffrey Simmons to come out dominate and shut them down from whistle to whistle like like he helped us do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, this is number one for me, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot think of another regular season game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was more meaningful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Arizona Cardinals game, we are who you thought they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are who we thought they're.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That game was memorable for different reasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, mostly defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to have a complete performance underdogs, you weren't underdogs in Arizona.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just were beating us and we came back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this, this is number one for me, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you mentioned the Eagles game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at both teams were eight and three going into that game on Black Friday last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was an absolutely gigantic game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We said on the show last year, it was the bears best kind of like three phases performance last season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned all three phases in this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the only of the Ben Johnson era,
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[SPEAKER_00]: to me, the only ones that could compare it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a short era, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't consider the postseason over Green Bay, it's the Green Bay regular season one in December, you know, coming back, it's, but that's for a different reason, like we were losing the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they won in Miraculous fashion, so it's memorable, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I still think Philly was the best performance last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, for me, of the Benjons and Eric has to be this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, two weeks in a row, to play last year's Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we would have been extremely happy going into the year of the bare split these games, to have one both of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as we did to have dominated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely dominated the Super Bowl champions in their own house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Add in as you talked about Jeffrey Simmons coming in first game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you just arrived in Chicago on like Friday?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been on the team for like 72 hours and to have the performance that he had and just to make that impact where you see what he's going to mean for this team moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's just the start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had he practice with him like one day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like it just it gets you so hyped to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's games in the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that you called that Ram's game and out in 18.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was like the the 2010 prime time game against the Packers early where both teams were good I think has to ran back at kick in that game or got close to returning one in that game I think I think you're I think you're returning up on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not mistaken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's prompt act
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a Monday night football game if I remember right because I think the teaching job I was at at the time I had to go to The school board meeting that night and then I had to get home really quick to watch the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like bear's packers were the both good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This never happens That was memorable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've mentioned the opening game in 06, you know, where the bears destroyed the packers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The 06 game at St. Louis were has to return to kicks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was such a fun game
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean the back-to-back ones in O1 against I think it was the Browns and the Niners with the the Mike Brown walk off those rank highly for me
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... man this is got to be top three probably regular season bears games i've seen as as a fan and then of the men johnson era no question number one has to be uh... and you know like you can look at the eagles and you can say since then they've kind of come down from where they were but yet as you said they're at the height of their powers area in three that was that was a gigantic wind but i got to go above that because
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the champs, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Super Bowl champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got the stars out there, and the bears still found a way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for Caleb to do what he did, coming back from his injury, the bears have not trailed since he's been back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for him to surpass 200 yards passing, early in the third quarter, against the best defense in the league, numbers wise going into the
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[SPEAKER_00]: a defense that had not allowed players such as Patrick Mahomes, Drake May, Brock Perti.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's had a bad season, but he's still just in Herbert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like none of those people bonix knows people threw for over 200 yards against his team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb barely needed to have the game to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they kind of shut down the pass and game he probably could have got the 300 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, just this game was such a coming out party for the bears as the for the national media to notice that this is a team that it's not applying the Skydream this team absolutely can win the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They should maybe even be considered the odds on favorite to get to the Super Bowl from the NFC considering they beat Seattle considering the injury issues that that the San Francisco 49ers have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know that it made some trades, but I mean, that if you can get San Francisco to come to Chicago in January, if it's us and them and the NFC title game, we got we got to get that higher seats, we can make that happen and they're coming to Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You feel pretty good about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, coming off of this, you got to be writing super high because of the win, but also, I mean, let's talk about Jeffrey Simmons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what did you notice most about him besides the bright orange sleeves, Brian?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before I touch on the animal that he is, two things I want to mention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First one is, and you touch on it to start the show in how
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[SPEAKER_01]: epic last week's win was also right like if this win didn't happen last week would have been one of the best wins of Ben Johnson era yeah but because this win happened it surpassed it especially in the fashion it was but what I found most fascinating about this win and how and how we controlled the game was it wasn't like we were playing
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[SPEAKER_01]: anyone watching didn't watch and say, oh, the Seahawks are a bad team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They still played fairly well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they made plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their guys showed up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They actually look good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just played better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is so rare.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think as football fans, but especially as bare fans the last couple decades, honestly, sprinkled here and there throughout the decades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had got guys making plays just not as as much or as well as our guys were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was super encouraging, but yeah, Jeffries, I mean, it all starts with Jeffries Simmons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't think we win that game without him to be to be frank.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he just, he just, he dominated, he, he commanded the attention of multiple
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they averaged three yards of play when he was in in 13 plus when he was out, you know, his, his motor was nonstop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he was rushing the passer, he was he was getting pressure or or swallowing up blockers so that Montez sweat could have the best game is season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and if, if it was a run game, he was not letting up despite being doubled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was pursuing down the line of scrimmage as a 300 plus pound guy who played 87% of the snaps is first game, you know, like that, that's, that's not, that's not, I did not expect that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not on the herd of for him because that's what he averaged in Tennessee, but for us on maybe a day and a half worth of practice prior to never playing in a game with these guys, never being in this scheme to play that much, you know, I mean, I think about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You and I have both coach different sports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you get a blue chip talent that transfers to your school,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, midweek and you got a game against the best team that we had come to play that Joker all game if I can, you know, but I didn't expect to see it for Dennis Allen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad we did and I think that I'll come down a bit, but you know, it elevated the level of play for everybody, man, and that was super encouraging to see it and I feel like it just energized the guys, particularly the front seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't think the back seven quite got as, you know, enhanced, if you will, I feel like they were still susceptible to, you know, some errors.
21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But the front seven, gosh, they looked like completely different, a completely different team, to be honest with you, on defense.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was excited, I still am.
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just to me it was so refreshing to and we've talked about this before, but it just continues to be refreshing and continues to be something that I'm enjoying so much is having a bear's offense that when something goes wrong not feeling like they're going to curl up and die because so many times in the past it'd be like, oh my god, here we go again and you know, you have that costly fumble by lovelin and you're like, oh shit, they could make a run.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: here and get back into the game were on the road momentum's changing.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a loud place to play And you know like the whole offense is over there on the sideline Caleb's there like no, it's gonna be fine You know, and then they they go they come back out and they answer and they right away Take control the game again.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You know like just just having a team where you Something can go so seemingly catastrophically wrong and you don't feel like it's fine
22:57
[SPEAKER_00]: We can shrug it off, same with what happened at the end of the first half with that long touchdown pass.
23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, now they'll be fine.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: They won't let this totally derail the game and how they led from whistle to whistle.
23:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, that's just something that as bear fans has been foreign pretty much our whole lives.
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And to have that offense, it's just unreal, man, how fun it is.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And in Caleb still has that chip on his shoulder, you can tell.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: when he's out there.
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, man, it was, it was a great game.
23:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I also want to throw a shout out to our friend Rob at Talley Brand.
23:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I see you were in the hat tonight.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We had Rob on the show.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: We've done giveaways with Rob and Rob was getting his props because the bears had him come out to Seattle because apparently Ryan Polls on whatever burner account he has on Twitter saw the Talley Brand stickers.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And Rob got on the field and then Holy smokes dude in the in the post game good better best video Kyler Gordon puts one of the tally brand stickers on Ben Johnson
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: The stinking leg, the stanky leg, sticker.
23:58
[SPEAKER_00]: That was so cool.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a good, and that's a friend of ours.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, check out Talley Brand.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You can use the code beers to get free shipping and some of those free stickers, if you're a listener of the show, by the way.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So Talleybrand.com, shoutout Rob, very deserving guy to get that attention and it was really, really happy to see that.
24:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, man, I mean, so, so, so cool.
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: for him to be at a game, let alone a Monday night game, in one of the loudest and most fun places to play.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And for us to come out on top the way we did, that is a top five life moment, right?
24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's unquestionable.
24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: No question.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He got super special.
24:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He got pictures with multiple bears, media,
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, was up close during the warm-up, some of the pictures he took during warm-up, I mean, I thought training camp was cool.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that was super cool.
25:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, for him to give Kyler one of those stickers.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kyler plops it on coaches' chest.
25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's for all the world to see.
25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's awesome.
25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We've done a couple giveaways with Rob at Tally Brand.
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll do some more.
25:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a, you know, good vibes when we're, when we're winning games, and that's what we're doing, man, and, you know, we got one more game before our buy, you mentioned another prime time game.
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: against the tough opponent that wants to run the ball and they're they're they're good at stopping the run and they have actually got a couple actually a few really good defensive backs to and a solid offensive line that they're they're going to be down an edge they're top edge rusher
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're still loaded on defense.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of a sneaky team.
26:01
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't overlook them, but it's gonna be tough.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And how cool would it be though, man?
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: To go into the buy at seven and two.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: They yeah, the bears have a chance to take back first place this weekend because we'll we will play first and then the Monday night game is the Vikings against the bills Bill where you I think the bills are favored in that game.
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So the bears can take care of business and if the bills beat Minnesota Bears are in first place
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it would be the same amount of losses as Minnesota, but one more win for the bears because we haven't had the buy yet.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So they got a real chance to kind of flip the script on it, you know, what's been going on in the standings this weekend.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Tampa is a team that, you know, obviously they started the season.
26:50
[SPEAKER_00]: really, really poorly going oh and four, they lost to Minnesota, they lost to Green Bay, you know, losing to Green Bay at a time when Green Bay was looking really bad, lost 17 to 14, lost 23 to 16 to Minnesota, lost to the Browns, lost to the Bengals in the opening weekend, obviously good opponents there.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but then they started to turn around.
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: They won three of their last four.
27:15
[SPEAKER_00]: They, they beat Dallas 24 to 16.
27:17
[SPEAKER_00]: They lost to Pittsburgh and OT.
27:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they beat Carolina and shut out at Lanta last week in a, in a bad weather game, where they didn't have any passing earth.
27:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not so, it's just ran the ball for like what over 300 yards in that game, I think.
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: 16 to over 200.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: 200 yard rushers that game.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: which you know we've had that before so we're no strangers to that we we got to follow what's going on with Kyle and Nungai once he's injury parts start coming out this week but God I I thought he'd be back by last week it was a fourth game he's missed I'm hopeful we get him back this weekend I haven't really heard anything it'd be nice to have him back because as you mentioned you know they have a good defense I think they're top 10 and passing and rushing if I'm not mistaken
28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the only teams they've given up, like they gave up 33 to sincey in week one, 23, they're not given up like a ton of points, 26 and OT to Pittsburgh, 13 and zero the last two weeks.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the bears have one of the top, if not the top offenses in the league.
28:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think at home, the bears can put up points.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears are going to have a hyped crowd.
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: absolutely hyped crowd behind them.
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be seeing Jeffrey Simmons in the Navy and Orange for the first time in person.
28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, prime time Sunday night.
28:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Bears have it one on Sunday night.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I see that right?
28:46
[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't one on Sunday night since 2018.
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's been a long time since they've won a Sunday night football.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Really.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw that somewhere on Twitter.
28:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't fact check it, but they've one like on a Sunday night like the broadcast package, but it wasn't the Sunday night.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I think it was like the playoff game.
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Use the same broadcast package, maybe.
29:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, 2018.
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: 2018.
29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a long time, long long time since they won on Sunday night.
29:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we had some of those rebuilding teams and some pretty awful teams for a while.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I'll give Tampa respect, they've started to turn it around.
29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, they play in a division that's
29:25
[SPEAKER_00]: not super competitive when it comes to a lot of wins and losses and it's competitive and that there's a lot of kind of middleing teams in that division and they're still live now with three wins and five losses.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I got a good little friend.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: His name's Derek.
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He is a huge, huge Tampa fan and I remember when they were playing Minnesota and Green Bay, he lived down in Memphis and I'm like dude, you got to do me a favor.
29:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to beat these guys for it for me.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was already rooting for him to lose.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, no, no, no, man, we're 0-1-3-0-1-4.
29:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just all about draft position now.
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, man, aren't you giving up a little early on your team?
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to check in with him and see what he's thinking now after they've won three other last four.
30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And almost four in a row, but wasn't for the OT loss to Pittsburgh.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I just kind of feel like when you look at the when you look at what they offer, obviously, a really, really solid running game, but that past game is really struggling and that's our weakness is the defensive backs.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know,
30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it sets up pretty nicely, you know, I like what we saw to the run defense with Jeffrey Simmons arriving.
30:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it sets up really nicely for me to confidently pick the bears in this one.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's a pretty good match up.
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I like where it falls in the schedule, strength versus weakness is I feel pretty solid about this one and then, you know, having two weeks off to continue to get healthy out.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you at with this one?
30:56
[SPEAKER_01]: they are they're writing high right now and you know they say any given Sunday for a reason right these these guys are are professional athletes and and they're uber talented you know videvae their defensive tackle is a guy that a lot a lot of bearers fans were clamoring for for us to acquire at the trade deadline and um
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a stud, 350 pound behemoth at defensive tackle, you know, can plug any hole.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna give Garrett Bradbury fits.
31:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But when I think can't be understated and you mentioned the NFC South and it might be the worst division at football.
31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if I'm just, if I'm being honest.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But divisional games, as we've seen with the bears have are completely different, that they're a higher level,
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And they just dominated their two rivals, right?
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they beat the Packer, the Panthers, rather, 43 to 13 two weeks ago.
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The Panthers were looking like a solid playoff contending team a couple weeks back.
32:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Once we beat them, they started riding high.
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're coming in.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
32:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Say, by the way, 43 points with Baker Me may feel drawing for 64 yards.
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, believable.
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they've got a two-headed monster at running back.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, they've got three backs that are actually really quality.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And Baker, right, he's had to deal with they lost Mike Evans this off season.
32:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He's now in San Francisco.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They've had a lot of injuries
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's still a quarterback, you have to be wary of and yeah, we we have to be and that's a thing though like that that's another aspect of of the the differences about being a fan right now versus being a fan five, 10, 15, 20 years ago is like we've got we we have a coaching staff that have
33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: enlisted the players' beliefs and buy-in to focus on the next game.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you watched Caleb after the game, he's not getting all high in mighty.
33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's talking about going 1-0 each week.
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's not going to get sucked into the big what ifs and the potential and all the fans are there in Seattle and and you know, he's on the late night ESPN show with Scott Vampel.
33:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just talking about going one to know getting back to work and their minds are in the right spot right now.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel like the, this is a game they've got to dominate, but
34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: about games that have been, you know, all time great or even in Ben Johnson era.
34:11
[SPEAKER_01]: This, this season's going to have a number of potential all-timeers.
34:19
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we have had one of the hardest strengthest schedules in the league so far and moving forward at our top one or two, I believe.
34:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're going to we're going to be going to Buffalo in a few weeks or a couple months.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess a month.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Month.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: December 19th.
34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: We got the Jag wars in a couple of weeks and then NFC South might be the worst division of football, but the NFC North is a blood bath, toughest division of football.
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Johnson's record against NFC North is not good.
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's one of those things what's going on there, because if you can't win your division games, that could be an Achilles heel.
35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And so far, it actually appears to be, so we've got a number of games.
35:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned the Packers game in December last year, and we won that game, we came back.
35:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And I agree that was a fantastic game, right?
35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: The DJ more special, right?
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's memorable for all the right reasons,
35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: but the packers were not defending Super Bowl champs.
35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And we weren't in Green Bay.
35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We lost in Green Bay last year.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Seattle is harder place to play historically than Green Bay is.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I don't want to beat a dead horse there, but yeah, we got to win this game.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm confident we will because of this regime,
36:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, but I'm actually excited for the buy, not because my anniversary is next week.
36:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for that, um, and I don't want to get distracted by football, but.
36:15
[SPEAKER_01]: because we need to get healthy.
36:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, news about Braction Jones came out being out for the season that sucks.
36:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We need Ozzie to pillow back last week, healthy, fully ready to go.
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And he didn't play a snap last week.
36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And now you've got Theo who might be hurt for an extended period of time.
36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, left tackle is gonna be an issue.
36:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So we need this buy, but you know, more important than we need to get a win going into the buy.
36:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's gonna be tough, but I'm with you, I'm confident.
36:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you mentioned I thought I was interesting going into how division games are a little bit harder because talking about the win over Carolina that Tampa had, and I mean, I watched a Carolina Green Bay game and I came away very unimpressed Carolina.
37:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we've seen them this year and thoroughly dominated them.
37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't think Green Bay is that great.
37:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're better now than they were earlier in the year.
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But man, Carolina had opportunities in that game to win.
37:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, getting a midfield late in the game, and Bryce Young could not have been more lost out there.
37:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And the way he hung onto the ball and took sacks and he was terrible.
37:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just don't think Carolina is that good, but you know, yeah, they're gonna play up for the divisional games.
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw Atlanta, obviously, and played them down there.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Tom and Haitian with the bears in the NFC North.
37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, you know, we, we split with Minnesota and Green Bay got swept by Detroit.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this I don't I don't feel like reading too much into it this year because Minnesota game was a weird game.
37:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Talks about it a lot.
37:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Lost Caleb, if I'm one on the one yard line, getting injured running and attached down.
38:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't have Caleb when we played Green Bay changes the entire mindset of the game and what the offense can do and how the defense responds.
38:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I said this on the Bears by seven podcasts that I do with Kevin this week.
38:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a bold prediction.
38:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you heard it, but I think the Bears are going to sweep the North the rest of the way.
38:22
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my bold prediction right now.
38:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they get their wins.
38:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've always felt they're going to get the wins back against Minnesota and Green Bay.
38:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So then it comes down to Detroit and Detroit.
38:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, their defense has taken such a step back.
38:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Worst defense against the past this year.
38:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Lose in one of their best linebackers now in Jack Campbell.
38:43
[SPEAKER_00]: They're best player.
38:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
38:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think the bear is this year like they're going to go in on Thanksgiving against Detroit remembering not only how they got dominated last year, but how they got how they lost Un Thanksgiving with flu's two years ago.
39:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb, I'm sure has been pissed about that.
39:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:03
[SPEAKER_00]: They're really going to have the motivation get the win and then, you know, then last year when we played them late in the year, I mean, I guess we still had motivation to play, but
39:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it was, it was seeding.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It was different.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
39:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll really highly motivated, but you're right.
39:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't.
39:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't.
39:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I think just been having lost both times.
39:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It was old team.
39:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's going to be some added motivation to get the wins.
39:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're going to need the wins both times this year.
39:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so I think we're going to beat Detroit both times and get our wins back in the other two.
39:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you go for an O against the North, the rest the way personally.
39:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, prove me wrong.
39:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I mean, but crazier things have happened.
39:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the way this team is rolling right now.
39:42
[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest issue would be health.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest issue to your point is health, especially at that left left tackle position where, you know, we've had some issues already, then losing the veteran the OBN banged up.
39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: We just we really need Aussie to look like he did last year with more reps. Hopefully he will.
39:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, man, I feel really good about it.
40:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Love to get my non guy back for this game.
40:04
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's, if it's questionable, they'll probably hold them out again because then we got two weeks off to really get feeling good, but no, I just feel like home game, the way the offense is rolling, Jeffrey Simmons kind of putting that defense in a totally different category now, we just, we haven't had a beast like him on the D line in our really long time.
40:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he is.
40:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I also sent him bears by seven like he's you'd have to go back to Tommy Harris.
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I love a King Hicks, but I don't think he's quite at the level of the sky.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tommy was like Tommy was the best in the league.
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He was the best three technique in the league at it in his prime for the injuries.
40:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Took that away.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you got to go back like 20 years to have had a player there in the middle.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Into your like this.
40:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been a long time.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: He changes everything makes awesome booker.
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam Bush had his re-up the linebackers.
41:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That was my next point.
41:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, free up the linebackers gonna make the secondary look better now We haven't talked about this, but like down the stretch might get Kobe Bryant back.
41:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean I'm feeling really good Brian and I'll make my pick right now for this game.
41:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go first for the score I got Chicago winning at home over Tampa 31 to 13 Nice.
41:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nice solid win
41:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, close for me, um, which, uh, by the way, I got the bear's score right last week.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I didn't get the Seahawk score right, even though I called a win.
41:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But we made the shots called before Jeffrey Simmons was traded.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
41:53
[SPEAKER_01]: With that said,
41:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm once again going to go 34 points for Chicago and I'm going to go 17 for Tampa.
42:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So 34, 17, obviously same scores we had in past week, but they posed some challenges in the run game, they've got a strong offensive line.
42:24
[SPEAKER_01]: But they do too.
42:25
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got two backs that are healthy, rolling right now.
42:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Baker better than Donald.
42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Personally, I know he's not needed to be as, as, as good.
42:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have a JSN.
42:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, they might shut him out with Jeffrey Simmons.
42:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm going to say 34, 17.
42:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And, yeah, we ride in the by 72.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's going to be huge.
42:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, I love where he heads at about sweeping the north.
42:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
42:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, it just seems like Detroit, you know, you know, you know how that green bag game.
43:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, Caleb was, was out.
43:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But Caleb being out doesn't, doesn't account for every other
43:22
[SPEAKER_01]: from an energy standpoint, from every other player on the Packers.
43:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like the Packers wanted it more, point blank.
43:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And whether, you know, Ben and the staff didn't coach them or Tyson wasn't, you know, in the right place, mentally, who knows?
43:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the thing about rivalry games.
43:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And when it comes to Detroit, Detroit seems to take that approach every time against Ben because he came from there.
43:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's hard for me to see that, but especially for Thanksgiving, I look at some of their injuries.
44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Jack Campbell, we're super high on him.
44:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You coached him, shout out to some middle school basketball slam dunks.
44:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He's unbelievable as far as a defensive.
44:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Captain, you know, just athlete, just, he's a monster, but Brian Branch came back and then he got hurt, you know, they've had some injuries, but again, rivalry games, anything that happened.
44:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd love to see it, I can't wait to watch.
44:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when we watch in my brother, my Detroit Lions fan brother is gonna be coming in town for Thanksgiving, we're gonna be watching together.
44:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'll get him on the show this year.
44:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll be awesome.
44:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, he won't be in town.
44:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He's flying in from Portland, Wednesday night.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He won't be in town, but, but yeah, I love it.
45:02
[SPEAKER_00]: with a swept us last year to try we're we're going to need those wins away this division is shaken out i mean every single win is going to matter and not just to win the division but just like play off positioning and uh... probably three of the four teams are going to make the play off uh... so you know we'll have to see what happens but
45:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just feel like there's gonna be a little extra motivation in those games because of Ben coming there as he's coming from there as you said and what they did do in last year.
45:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So we shall see, but
45:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, let's, let's get this win next week is the trade deadline on Tuesday, three o'clock, Chicago time, talked about Calil Mac constantly on this show.
45:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I would still like to get Calil Mac for the right price.
45:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel like as necessary now with Simmons, but to have another guy that you can rotate in there, I mean, I think that that's to this team's benefit.
45:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like as we've said on this show,
46:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You never know how many chances you're going to get at a super bowl.
46:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Injuries can happen, crazy stuff happens in this league, roster shakeups.
46:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you have a legit chance at doing it, I think you stack the deck to get it done.
46:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you can bring him in, if the chargers ever free collial Mac for the love of God, which it doesn't seem like they will.
46:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Damn it.
46:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they are doing.
46:24
[SPEAKER_00]: They're GM, if Jim Harbaugh is playing Harbaugh, Hardball, Harbaugh playing Harbaugh.
46:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's step in and be like, dude, we need these picks, the season is lost.
46:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't won a game.
46:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know who they have this week.
46:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't even let me ask you this though.
46:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, would you rather Khalil for a fourth or Josh Sweat for a third?
46:54
[SPEAKER_00]: How long does Josh sweat under contract?
46:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even sure, did he resign?
46:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd have to look at that.
46:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Just got signed to the cartels.
47:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like how many years do you know?
47:03
[SPEAKER_01]: The chargers had the Texans, by the way, which I think they're going to lose that game.
47:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's on a four-year deal through 2008, Josh sweat.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, I don't know, man.
47:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't get it right here.
47:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Right here's the wheel right now.
47:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Just for the rental for the rest of the season.
47:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
47:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's, that's, that's, I'm saying, yeah.
47:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Khalil's been reported to require a fifth round pick.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd take that any day in a heartbeat.
47:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But if, if, if they're not selling, it might take a fourth.
47:37
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
47:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And Josh sweat is younger, but it'll take more capital.
47:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.
47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take Mac.
47:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring him back, return to the Mac, let him close this out.
47:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, talk about the 2018 team.
47:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have the offense we do now.
48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He loved a team Hicks and Eddie Goldman back then.
48:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got both of them in one player right now in Jeffrey Simmons.
48:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, yeah, I personally think we need corner more.
48:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I don't know who's available.
48:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of also on the same vein would like Nation on right back.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Just bring him back.
48:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he can't, he can't be worse.
48:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And if he, if he gives up, you know, a big play every now and then, like,
48:36
[SPEAKER_01]: can get interceptions every once in a while and give us a ball back.
48:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But do you think the bear should bring back CJ?
48:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I would.
48:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I would.
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we talked about on the show.
48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like CJ before Chicago.
48:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But he gave us no problems.
48:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Not one.
48:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Not one.
49:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Not one problem on the field or off the field or in the locker room.
49:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Not one.
49:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a stellar teammate for Chicago.
49:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Huge addition.
49:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Huge addition down the stretch for us play noticeable day one.
49:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
49:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to have him back now.
49:15
[SPEAKER_01]: The question is where does he play?
49:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Cam Lewis had a great game at safety.
49:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Kyle is back now at nickel.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's kind of that same mold, so where would he go?
49:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I feel like he could just be kind of a reserve, maybe dime package guy, or even special teamer, unless an injury happens, any steps in.
49:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he's worth it though, like bring him back, bring nation right back, like run it back with those DBs from last year.
49:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we've got a couple more pieces.
49:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, we can go with this thing.
49:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're gonna be like, CJ is free right now, he costs nothing.
49:52
[SPEAKER_01]: except for, you know, vet minimum contract.
49:56
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no compensation has to go out to acquire C.J.
49:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Gardner Johnson.
50:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know he got, he got in trouble, got suspended for spitting on somebody's stupid.
50:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He was, he was one of my top three villains in the entire history of the league.
50:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, for we signed him.
50:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, he gave us no problems in Chicago.
50:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And he knows this defense, he knows the culture,
50:21
[SPEAKER_01]: and we're winning games now.
50:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by the way, guess what?
50:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got Buffalo in a month and a half.
50:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So he gets to take it out on them.
50:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I am worried about a guy like him going in a rival situation like that and being foolish.
50:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, we were in plenty of those situations last year high in tech to the situate and he did nothing wrong.
50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: No, so, how I'm for him, what about you?
50:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I would do it.
50:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was really surprising.
50:55
[SPEAKER_00]: They let him get away to begin with because he was such a good addition.
50:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, down the stretch didn't feel like they would have to pay him that much to keep him around.
51:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we knew that he was a guy who, you know, was pretty much kept under control and was a great addition down the way.
51:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, yeah, when they let him get away, I was I was really, really surprised by that.
51:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I don't know,
51:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Having a guy, you know, like D.A.
51:21
[SPEAKER_00]: who has been ahead coach, as his defensive coordinator, knows really knows how to command a room, help keep him in line a little bit when he was here.
51:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's too bad.
51:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He left and then reverted right back to the old bad habits that he had.
51:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if they had kept him here, maybe that doesn't happen.
51:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I would probably do it because, you know, you don't really have to worry if you're a team he hasn't played on, then you worry about the locker and impact.
51:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll look this guy spit on players, you know, but he's already been here, most of the guys already know him, the coaches all know him.
51:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So why not bring him, bring him back, just knowing that we got a weakness in that room.
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have a lot of depth, which is why it was questionable to me that they let him get away in the first place.
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: We did, we had depth issues there, but do you want to see him trade for a corner real quick before we go?
52:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You have someone in mind that you want.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen the names photoed around, you know.
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It really depends on who's actually available.
52:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I am okay with a reek woolen.
52:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like Tim coming out.
52:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously physical freaky, actually played with the C. Drafted and played with the C-Hawks.
52:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's your prototypical boundary corner.
52:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's big, he's super fast.
52:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's he's led up a lot.
52:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not played really well this year.
52:40
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's the one thing, but You know, I think competition is not a bad thing, especially in that room particularly But Yeah, there's some there's some guys charf char, char devious ward is another guy who I think could be available Alante Taylor's another guy who is played both outside and inside
53:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, I'm at a point where I trust, I trust their decision making.
53:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So if they bring any guy in, it's got starting experience, I'll be happy.
53:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think we need some competition at corner.
53:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That was, yeah, I was talking about buddy mine.
53:18
[SPEAKER_01]: A good friend of mine is a huge Tennessee Titan fan, huge.
53:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I think, by the way, is really cool how a lot of Titans fans have embraced
53:31
[SPEAKER_01]: the bears now that that we have their bear.
53:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got Jeffrey Simmons.
53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: They love him.
53:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was hard.
53:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It was hard for him to leave hard for them to see him go.
53:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But but they're happy for him because he's happy and he's dominating and and I was talking with him and and he was like, yeah, you're only weakness is his corner.
53:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
53:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what did he say?
53:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He said we could go pick up a, um,
54:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Traveon digs.
54:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't know if I want digs.
54:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, if the bear's staff picked him up higher, you know, if we go out and trade or sign anybody that's that corner.
54:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I might not be like I might not be happy, but that's that's another weird thing about being a fan these days of Chicago is I trust them more than I trust myself.
54:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got four kids in a wife and a full-time job.
54:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have time to be scouting all these guys.
54:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, attention way more than my wife would like.
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I know too many names, according to my wife.
54:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know exactly how everyone's playing right now.
54:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have PFF subscription.
54:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have that stuff to know how, you know, I'm not scouting all these games, watching the all-22s to know who's on their point, who would
54:55
[SPEAKER_01]: assimilate most easily to our scheme.
54:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know exactly who we need.
55:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I just know that I want a corner more even more so than a collial Mac or someone else.
55:11
[SPEAKER_01]: We need some more defensive back health and you talked about Kobe Bryant.
55:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Him returning is going to be so amazing.
55:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Can
55:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think when you corner help, I would be happy if they got CJ, Nation, and Mac.
55:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be thrilled.
55:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And that, I mean, you might be able to get all three of those guys for not a whole lot of exact, that's insane.
55:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll know the next time we do a show, but I'm on the same page as you, corner is the biggest need now.
55:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
55:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we went in this season, think in D line was like the biggest concern and they have solved it.
55:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, awesome.
55:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We elevated his game.
55:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely elevated his game and now it's going to be more so with Simmons up there.
55:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, that Simmons tray was absolutely worth the draft cap.
56:01
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is no question.
56:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the impact he had from the first play was so noticeable.
56:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, great trade by polls and really solve all those issues up front.
56:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, to have another rotational guy like a Cleo Mac would definitely be welcome.
56:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We'd love to have him back, but let's get a corner in here.
56:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
56:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll talk about it next Wednesday night because we'll be the day after the trade deadline.
56:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, or wait, actually we weren't doing a show next week because it's a by week, right?
56:28
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56:29
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56:31
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56:33
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57:06
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