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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed Thinking. We're doing a special deep dive
- 0:03today where we focus on pulling the essential knowledge from
- 0:06some really core documents. And today we are immersing
- 0:10ourselves in the structure that's necessary for the health
- 0:13of the visible church. We're pulling our key insights
- 0:16directly from John Calvin's Institutes of the Christian
- 0:18Religion, specifically his sections on church discipline,
- 0:22censures, and excommunication. Yeah.
- 0:25And our mission today is really to get past maybe some of the
- 0:29surface level ideas people have about church government.
- 0:32We're trying to extract the detailed practical knowledge
- 0:36about, you know, how spiritual jurisdiction is supposed to be
- 0:39administered and the standards that are needed for both
- 0:41Christian living and for public ministry.
- 0:44The goal is to understand from these sources why order is
- 0:48considered just, well, absolutely non negotiable for
- 0:51preserving doctrine. And Calvin gives us this this
- 0:54powerful analogy right at the very beginning that just sets
- 0:56the stage for everything he says that at the saving doctrine of
- 0:59Christ is the soul of the church.
- 1:01Life giving essence. Yeah, then discipline acts as
- 1:04its sinews. Think about that.
- 1:06I mean, sinews, tendons, ligaments.
- 1:09That's the stuff that holds the body together, right?
- 1:11It keeps every member in its proper place and allows it to
- 1:14function. Exactly.
- 1:15If the sinews fail, the body doesn't just get weak, it starts
- 1:19to fall apart. It dissolves.
- 1:21So it's not an add on, it's not decoration.
- 1:23No, it's a structural necessity. And he warns anyone who wants to
- 1:26get rid of discipline or who, you know, hinders its
- 1:30restoration, that they're actively helping to dissolve the
- 1:33church. You just can't have a body
- 1:35without that structural coherence.
- 1:37And that really defines the high stakes for this whole
- 1:39discussion. This discipline, the source
- 1:42says, depends mostly on the power of the keys and on
- 1:45spiritual jurisdiction. And we should probably clarify
- 1:48that right away. Good point.
- 1:49Spiritual jurisdiction operates entirely inside the church.
- 1:51It's totally distinct from the civil government, the
- 1:54magistrate. That's a huge distinction,
- 1:56especially for his time. So when we talk about the power
- 1:58of the keys, the sources are referencing that spiritual
- 2:02authority that Christ gave the Church the power to bind and
- 2:05loose. To open and shut the Kingdom of
- 2:08heaven. Right through preaching the
- 2:09word, administering sacraments, and of course, discipline.
- 2:13Precisely, and this authority structures the visible church
- 2:17into basically 2 main orders. You've got the clergy, those in
- 2:22public ministry and you've got the people.
- 2:24And what's vital here is that both are subject to the same
- 2:27common discipline, though as we'll see, the standard for the
- 2:31clergy is actually a lot higher. Right, because they're public
- 2:34examples. So let's get into the practical
- 2:36side of this in, let's say, an ideal Christian community.
- 2:40Why aren't doctrine and preaching enough on their own?
- 2:43Why do you need this whole judicial structure?
- 2:46The argument really comes down to human nature.
- 2:48I mean, if members were just allowed to do whatever they
- 2:50wanted, the result would be chaos.
- 2:52It would be a confusion and then eventually dissolution.
- 2:56So. Discipline is what ensures the
- 2:58Church is, as he puts it, as ordered as possible.
- 3:02Yeah, he compares it to a well kept house or a properly run
- 3:05society. Order isn't some external thing
- 3:08being forced on holiness, it's part of it.
- 3:10And to help us get our heads around how it works, because
- 3:13it's not a one-size-fits-all thing, the sources give us three
- 3:17really dynamic metaphors. They show that discipline isn't
- 3:21just a blunt instrument. No, it's a targeted remedy.
- 3:24It depends on the spiritual condition of the person.
- 3:26So the first one is a bridal. A bridal.
- 3:28Right. This is for those who are
- 3:30willful, unruly, or who are, you know, actively raging against
- 3:35the Doctor of Christ. The bridal restrains them.
- 3:38It stops them from hurting the flock, and maybe just as
- 3:40important, it stops them from completely ruining themselves.
- 3:44It tames that destructive tendency.
- 3:46OK, so then the second metaphor is the spur the.
- 3:49Spur. This is for the languid, the
- 3:51lazy, those who just don't have much inclination toward their
- 3:54spiritual duty. They're Christians who are kind
- 3:56of spiritually asleep, and they need a nudge.
- 3:58So not for rebels, but for the complacent, it's a tool to wake
- 4:01them up. Exactly.
- 4:02And then the third one is the father's rod.
- 4:04Which sounds a bit harsh. It does, but notice how he
- 4:08qualifies it. This chastisement has to be
- 4:11delivered mildly, with the spirit of gentleness.
- 4:14It's correction, but it's correction administered with the
- 4:17care and love of a parent. The goal is restoration, not
- 4:22destruction. Spending time on those 3 is so
- 4:25helpful, I think, because it gets rid of the idea that
- 4:28discipline is only about excommunication.
- 4:31It's about a whole spectrum of spiritual weakness, from the
- 4:34raging rebel all the way to the sleeping St.
- 4:37It's admonition, it's encouragement, it's mild
- 4:39correction. So let's get into the actual
- 4:41judicial process. It's all based on Christ's
- 4:43instruction in Matthew 18. And this sequence is
- 4:46specifically for private sins. So sins committed against
- 4:50another person, or things known only to a.
- 4:51Few people, Exactly. And the process starts with the
- 4:54most gentle, most private step, private admonition.
- 4:57If your brother does something wrong, you go to him, just the
- 5:00two of you. The priority is to restore the
- 5:02person without causing this big public scandal if you don't have
- 5:05to. Right.
- 5:06And the sources point specifically to the leadership,
- 5:09the pastors and presbyters, and say they need to be especially
- 5:11vigilant here. They're called to seek out the
- 5:14lost sheep 1 by 1. He cites Paul's example in Acts
- 5:18teaching both publicly and from house to house, admonishing
- 5:21everyone. It shows that the leadership has
- 5:24this duty to pursue every single member with personal care.
- 5:28But if that first private step doesn't work and the Sinner just
- 5:32stubbornly rejects the warning, you move to stage 2.
- 5:35Admonition with witnesses. You admonish him again, but this
- 5:38time with one or two other people there.
- 5:40And this does two things. First, it makes it more serious.
- 5:43It shows the offender, hey, this is escalating beyond just a
- 5:46personal disagreement, and second, it substantiates the
- 5:49fault if it has to go further. You now have witnesses to
- 5:52establish the truth of the matter.
- 5:53And if the person is still scornful even after that, then
- 5:56you get to stage 3, the Church tribunal.
- 5:59The assembly of the elders. Yeah, this is where it moves
- 6:01from a private matter to a public authoritative 1.
- 6:04And at this tribunal, the person gets a grave public admonition
- 6:08from the governing body. The hope is that the weight of
- 6:12appearing before the whole council, you know, representing
- 6:15the church's authority, will finally compel them to submit.
- 6:18Because at this point, they're not just refusing a brother,
- 6:21they're refusing the whole body of Christ.
- 6:23And only if he perseveres in his wickedness after all that does
- 6:26Christ command the final step. Excommunication, the ultimate
- 6:31spiritual measure. He's removed from the Fellowship
- 6:34as a despiser of the Church because he scorned every single
- 6:37attempt at gentle correction. So the sources are really clear
- 6:41that this four step process is for sins that start out as
- 6:44private. What about the public ones, the
- 6:47ones that cause immediate scandal?
- 6:49Well then the process speeds up dramatically.
- 6:51Paul talks about this in First Timothy.
- 6:53He says rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest
- 6:56may stand in fear. If the offense causes public
- 6:59damage, the church goes straight to a solemn public rebuke.
- 7:02You don't need the private steps because it's already public.
- 7:05Exactly. We see this in the New
- 7:07Testament, right? Think of Peter's public offense
- 7:09in Galatia when he pulled away from the Gentiles.
- 7:12Paul rebuked him publicly on the spot because the sin was causing
- 7:16public scandal and doctrinal confusion.
- 7:19And of course, the case of the incestuous man in Corinth.
- 7:22That's probably the most famous example.
- 7:23The church didn't try to handle that quietly.
- 7:25He was dealt with immediately and publicly.
- 7:28The goal was to get the Levin out before it fermented the
- 7:31whole lump. And this brings up another
- 7:33really critical distinction. The sources make the difference
- 7:37between faults, which are lighter vices, and crimes, which
- 7:40are shameful acts. So lighter vices might just
- 7:43require that mild, fatherly verbal chastisement we talked
- 7:47about earlier. Right, the correction fits the
- 7:49offense, the. Crimes.
- 7:50Crimes are different. They need an immediate, much
- 7:53more severe remedy. The sources list things like
- 7:56manifest adultery, theft, perjury.
- 7:59These actions inflict an immediate visible injury on the
- 8:03whole church. And because that damage is so
- 8:05severe, they require excommunication, not just a
- 8:08verbal telling off. The person is deprived of
- 8:11communion until they can show sincere, assured repentance.
- 8:15It highlights the double seriousness of that kind of
- 8:18public wickedness. There's the injury to the
- 8:20victim, but there's also the injury to the reputation and the
- 8:23spiritual health of the entire congregation.
- 8:26So now that we've got the process down, let's pivot to the
- 8:29spiritual Why? It's not enough to just have
- 8:32rules. We need to understand the
- 8:34rationale the sources, layout 3 core objectives for all this.
- 8:38The first one, and it's probably the one that overrides
- 8:41everything else, is preserving God's honor if.
- 8:44People leading a filthy, infamous life are allowed to be
- 8:47called Christians. They bring disgrace on Christ
- 8:50Himself. The logic is pretty simple.
- 8:52The church is Christ's body, so corruption in the members cast
- 8:56this terrible stain on the reputation of the head.
- 8:59Discipline maintains the integrity of Christ's name in
- 9:01the world. And this objective leads
- 9:03straight into those really stringent warnings about the
- 9:06Lord's Supper. Oh yeah, the sources insist that
- 9:08this sacred mystery must not be profaned by just letting anyone
- 9:12and everyone take it. If wicked men partake
- 9:15unworthily, they're receiving judgement, not a blessing.
- 9:18The language is so stark, the source says a distributor who
- 9:22knowingly admits an unworthy person is guilty of sacrilege,
- 9:26as if he had cast the Lord's body to dogs.
- 9:29That is confrontational. It is, and you have to ask why
- 9:33it's so extreme. Historically the risk of
- 9:35compromise was huge. The sources site Chrysostom who
- 9:40talks about priests who are afraid of powerful men you know
- 9:43and didn't dare exclude them even if they were manifest
- 9:46offenders. And, Chrysostom warns them,
- 9:47blood will be required at your hands.
- 9:50The distributors allegiance has to be to God, not man, and that
- 9:53requires the Church to have jurisdiction to protect the
- 9:56holiness of the sacrament from powerful but unrepentant people.
- 9:59OK, so on to the second objective, protecting the flock.
- 10:02This is about preventing the spiritual health of the good
- 10:05members from being corrupted by bad company and bad examples.
- 10:08It's that biblical principle. A little leaven ferments the
- 10:10whole lump. Exactly.
- 10:12The sources recognize that we're all prone to wander.
- 10:15We don't need constant exposure to uncorrected sin making it
- 10:18worse. So association with known
- 10:21sinners, the miser, the idolater, the drunkard, it has
- 10:24to be prohibited to guard the spiritual health of the
- 10:27community. And then the third objective is
- 10:29restorative. It focuses completely on the
- 10:32offender, arousing repentance. For those who have become
- 10:36stubborn, who would only get harder under gentle treatment,
- 10:41the public shame and the rod of chastisement are used to kind of
- 10:45shock them back to spiritual health.
- 10:46The goal is for them to profit from the chastisement of their
- 10:49own evil. Which is why the apostle says we
- 10:52should not mingle with him, that he may be ashamed.
- 10:54That shame is used therapeutically, not to be
- 10:56vindictive. And this helps explain that
- 10:59phrase in First Corinthians about delivering the man to
- 11:01Satan. Yes, the person is temporarily
- 11:03given over to the devil because by definition the devil operates
- 11:06outside the church. But this temporary condemnation
- 11:09is so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.
- 11:12The purpose is entirely therapeutic.
- 11:14Entirely to shock the person with the severity of losing that
- 11:18fellowship to drive them back to the only source of salvation.
- 11:22So where is the authority for all this come from?
- 11:26The sources claim that the church's condemnation is nothing
- 11:29less than the publication of God's own sentence, which is
- 11:32ratified in heaven. This just elevates the whole
- 11:34thing, doesn't it? It means the actions of the
- 11:36elders aren't just some trivial human pronouncement.
- 11:39When they condemn someone using the word of the Lord or receive
- 11:42a repentant person back, they're acting as public agents of
- 11:46Christ himself. But if the sentence is ratified
- 11:49in heaven, what's the difference between ordinary church censure
- 11:52and, you know, final damnation? The source makes a really key
- 11:56distinction between excommunication and anathema.
- 11:59And we really need to stress this.
- 12:01Excommunication is strictly limited to ecclesiastical
- 12:04censure. It's always intended to be
- 12:06corrective. It's temporary.
- 12:08It's waiting for the person to repent and be reconciled.
- 12:10Exactly. But anathema?
- 12:12That's something else entirely. The sources say it's rarely or
- 12:15never to be used. It's nature is to remove all
- 12:17pardon and consign a man to internal destruction.
- 12:21That's the ultimate spiritual peril.
- 12:23To pronounce an anathema is to judge the heart and declare
- 12:27someone beyond salvation. Which is God's job alone.
- 12:30That's why the Church has to be so extremely cautious.
- 12:32Anathema is a final declaration reserved for, you know,
- 12:36persistent, malicious heretics who are fighting against clear,
- 12:40fundamental doctrine. And even then, only in the most
- 12:43severe cases. So when we're dealing with
- 12:46someone who's just excommunicated the common
- 12:48censure, the focus is always on restoration.
- 12:51Right. We don't live familiarly with
- 12:52them, but we still have to strive for them to return.
- 12:56As the apostle teaches, we should not look upon them as
- 12:58enemies, but warn them as brothers.
- 13:00If the Church loses that gentleness and treats the
- 13:03excommunicated as if they're already damned, the discipline
- 13:06just becomes butchery. That's the word the source uses
- 13:10butchery. That idea of gentleness leads us
- 13:12right into this necessary qualification, moderation.
- 13:15The source insists that the severity has to be joined with a
- 13:18spirit of gentleness. The intention is always healing,
- 13:21not harm, so the severity can't overwhelm the Sinner with so
- 13:25much sorrow that it just negates the remedy and drives them to
- 13:28despair. And the sources say the rigor
- 13:30has to stop the moment the Sinner gives sincere testimony
- 13:34of repentance. If the church keeps pushing
- 13:37after that, it's no longer discipline, it's just
- 13:40self-righteous cruelty. And This is why the sources
- 13:42spend time looking at historical practice.
- 13:45The excessive severity of the ancients, as they call it, can't
- 13:48be excused because it departed from the Lord's instructions and
- 13:51was really dangerous to people's souls.
- 13:54What did that excessive severity actually look like?
- 13:57It meant imposing these often arbitrary and overly long
- 14:00periods of penance and being deprived of communion.
- 14:03We're talking about seven years or four or three, and in some
- 14:06tragic cases, for life. And what were the spiritual
- 14:10consequences of that? Two equally destructive
- 14:13outcomes. The first was great hypocrisy.
- 14:14The person desperate to get back into fellowship would just
- 14:17perform all the external rights. The sack loss the ashes, but
- 14:21with no real repentance in their heart.
- 14:22They were just trying to please men, not God.
- 14:25Right. And the second consequence was
- 14:26utter despair. They felt cast off, forever
- 14:29burdened by this impossible penance, and many just gave up
- 14:32on faith entirely. So the lack of prudence actually
- 14:34pushed people away from God. It really did, and the sources
- 14:38cite some of the ancient fathers who themselves disliked this
- 14:43kind of rigor. Cyprian, for example, said he
- 14:45wanted all to return to the church and that he forgave all
- 14:48things. And Chrysostom asked, if God is
- 14:51so kind, why does his priest wish to seem so rigorous?
- 14:55That question just cuts right to the heart of it.
- 14:58The church's discipline has to reflect the character of Christ.
- 15:01And this mildness has to govern the whole church.
- 15:04The source is really stressed that it is not the church's job
- 15:07to erase people from the number of the elect.
- 15:09That's such a critical limit on human judgement, isn't it?
- 15:12We can't step into the role of the Holy Spirit.
- 15:14Absolutely not. We can't condemn to death the
- 15:16very person who is in God's hand in judgement alone.
- 15:19We can only judge their outward actions by the standard of God's
- 15:23law, and the sources point out that God, whenever he wants,
- 15:27changes the worst men into the best.
- 15:29And he does that specifically to frustrate our opinions and
- 15:32restrain our rashness and judging.
- 15:34Our job is to use the keys to bind and loose on earth, always
- 15:38hoping that God will loose what we've bound if true repentance
- 15:42happens. The need for this mildness is a
- 15:44crucial caution against that self-righteous severity we see
- 15:48with groups like the Donatists and later the Anabaptists.
- 15:52Right? So if they were trying to be
- 15:53pure, where did their zeal go so wrong?
- 15:56Their error was schism. It was driven by impatience.
- 16:00The Donatists separated from the flock because they saw faults
- 16:04that weren't being corrected diligently enough by the elders.
- 16:07They demanded a church with angelic perfection.
- 16:10Which you're not going to find in this life.
- 16:12Augustine noted that they use this shade of rigid severity to
- 16:15hide their lack of the light of truth.
- 16:17They were guilty of breaking the unity of the visible Church over
- 16:21an unscriptural expectation of purity on earth.
- 16:23And Augustine's principle is the perfect counterpoint.
- 16:27You don't neglect severe discipline, but you also don't
- 16:29break the bond of fellowship within temper correction.
- 16:32Unity is the supreme goal. Discipline is the tool to get
- 16:36there, not the end in itself. This brings us to Augustine's
- 16:39strategy for widespread sin. What do you do when the
- 16:43contagion of sin invades the multitude?
- 16:46The sources say that separation breaking fellowship is vain,
- 16:49harmful and sacrilegious in that case.
- 16:51So if a majority of the church is involved in some sin, you
- 16:55can't just use the same rigor you'd use for a few people.
- 16:57It's a really profound practical recognition of reality.
- 17:02If you try a vigorous, immediate discipline on the majority, it's
- 17:05just going to cause a schism. And schism is worse than the sin
- 17:09itself, because it shatters the body of Christ.
- 17:11So you have to deal with a great number of sinners, not roughly
- 17:14or harshly, but more by teaching than by commanding, more by
- 17:18monishing than by menacing. Teaching and admonishing have to
- 17:21come first. Severity, which risks shattering
- 17:24the Church, is reserved for the sins of the few.
- 17:27The goal is to bring health to the body, not death.
- 17:30Patients have to conquer zeal. We've been focusing so much on
- 17:33censure, the rod and the bridal, but the sources also talk about
- 17:36a non cunative side of discipline, fasting and solemn
- 17:39supplication. Yeah, these are called holy
- 17:41ordinances. Their time, manner and form are
- 17:45rigidly prescribed in the Word, but they're left to the judgment
- 17:48of the church leadership. Historically, these were common
- 17:50in the early church and all through the Old Testament.
- 17:52So when are they supposed to be used?
- 17:54They're appropriate when great matters are being decided, like
- 17:57choosing a minister or during a Synod.
- 17:59And they're also for when God's judgments appear.
- 18:01War, famine, pestilence. In those crises, it becomes the
- 18:05job of pastors to urge the people to public fasting and
- 18:09extraordinary prayers. But fasting itself is so easily
- 18:12misunderstood. It's so prone to superstition,
- 18:15the sources carefully define three lawful proper objectives
- 18:19for it. The first is mainly private, to
- 18:21weaken and subdue the flesh, to promote personal piety and
- 18:24self-control. The second is for both private
- 18:26and public life to prepare for prayer.
- 18:29The idea is that a mind that isn't weighed down by a full
- 18:32stomach is more easily lifted up to God.
- 18:34And the third is entirely public and expressive to be a testimony
- 18:39of self abasement and confession of guilt.
- 18:42This is for when danger threatens a community and the
- 18:45people collectively confess their guilt before God.
- 18:48We see this with the Ninevites after Jonah's preaching.
- 18:51The sources are also careful to refute the idea that fasting is
- 18:54abolished in Christ. Right.
- 18:56Christ excused his apostles, not by abolishing it, but by
- 19:00appointing it for future times of calamity, joining it with
- 19:03mourning. He said The days will come when
- 19:05the bridegroom is taken away from them and then they will
- 19:07fast. So it's still an aid for
- 19:09believers today, and the source defines what a true fast is.
- 19:13It's not just daily sobriety, but a temporary withdrawal from
- 19:16your normal routine. It has three parts.
- 19:19First time for the whole duration of the ACT it's
- 19:22appointed for. Second quality of foods.
- 19:25No elegance, just common basic foods and 3rd quantity eating
- 19:29more sparingly, only for need, not for pleasure.
- 19:32And this detailed definition is key because as the source is
- 19:35warned, without faithfulness from pastors, superstition just
- 19:38creeps in. What are the three big errors
- 19:40the source is warned against? The 1st and most dangerous is
- 19:44hypocrisy. This is thinking God cares about
- 19:47the outward act of fasting. If your heart isn't truly rent
- 19:50with displeasure, it's sin. God hates it when people display
- 19:54outward signs instead of genuine innocence of heart.
- 19:57The second error is viewing fasting as merit or worship.
- 20:02This confuses fasting, which is an indifferent thing and aid to
- 20:05piety, with works commanded by God.
- 20:07Like hearing the word, it turns it into a dangerous superstition
- 20:11where you think the act of fasting earns God's favor.
- 20:14It shifts the credit from Christ to your own bodily act.
- 20:17Exactly. And the third error is in
- 20:20moderate praise. This is when you extol fasting
- 20:23as if it's a chief duty, which leads people to think they've
- 20:25done something noble just by skipping a meal.
- 20:27This brings us to that whole section on the degeneration of
- 20:30Lent. It becomes a universal thing
- 20:32because people thought they were doing some exceptional service
- 20:34to God by imitating Christ fast. But the sources argue that
- 20:37Christ's 40 day fast was singular.
- 20:40It wasn't an example for us to follow every year.
- 20:43It was to prove the gospel was from heaven, like Moses on Sinai
- 20:46with the law. The moment it became a required
- 20:49imitation, it just devolved into superstition, and you could see
- 20:52that in the amazing diversity of how it was practiced.
- 20:55Oh yeah, The Romans fasted for three weeks, others for six or
- 20:59seven. The permitted foods were all
- 21:01over the place. Some only ate bread and water,
- 21:03others added fish. It proves the origin was
- 21:06tradition, not a divine command. And then it got worse, with
- 21:09these wicked laws forbidding meat during Lent, binding
- 21:13people's consciences with these deadly chains.
- 21:15And the depth of the depravity was when they started seeking
- 21:18the praise of fasting through exquisite delicacies, the goal
- 21:22completely shifted. They were fasting only to feast
- 21:25more sumptuously and daintily. So they were legally avoiding
- 21:29common foods, but at the same time of preparing these
- 21:31incredibly expensive complex dishes that didn't break the
- 21:34letter of the law but completely destroy the spirit of sobriety.
- 21:38Precisely total hypocrisy. The source notes that the
- 21:41ultimate impiety became tasting the tiniest bit of bacon fat
- 21:44while at the same time holding drunken revels from noon to
- 21:47midnight. The ritual became a cover for
- 21:50greater gluttony. This corruption of external
- 21:52rights brings us to the final area of discipline, the clergy
- 21:56themselves. The sources described this
- 21:58really robust ancient system for them.
- 22:01Historically, the standard was definitely harsher for the
- 22:04clergy, which makes sense. They're supposed to lead by
- 22:06example. The canons required them to
- 22:09avoid things that could cause public scandal.
- 22:11What kinds of things? They had to avoid hunting,
- 22:14gambling, use re lending money at excessive interest in wanton
- 22:17dances. It shows the concern wasn't just
- 22:20about doctrine, but about personal conduct and sobriety.
- 22:24And there was a structure for accountability built in.
- 22:26Indeed, there were annual visitations and provincial
- 22:29sentence to check on them. Bishops themselves could be
- 22:32judged by these sentence. If a Bishop was too harsh, the
- 22:35clergy could appeal. And the worst punishment for a
- 22:37Bishop? Deposition from office and if it
- 22:39was bad enough, being deprived of communion.
- 22:42The whole system was meant to ensure the sinews of the church
- 22:45were sound from the top down. But as the sources state very
- 22:49plainly, that whole system collapsed.
- 22:51They claimed nothing was more unbridled and dissolute than the
- 22:55Papist clergy of their day. And this collapse led to a
- 22:58reliance on just certain shadows of the ancient customs.
- 23:02It was mimicry. And there's this fantastic
- 23:05analogy from Xenophon about the Persians.
- 23:07Oh, the. Persians analogy.
- 23:09How does that apply? Well, the later Persians kept
- 23:11the ancient rite of eating only once a day, but they totally
- 23:15perverted it by holding drunken rebels from noon to midnight.
- 23:18So they fulfilled the time rule but destroyed the substance of
- 23:21sobriety. It kept the empty external right
- 23:24while abandoning the internal health it was supposed to
- 23:27cultivate. It's a perfect illustration of
- 23:29legalism, and despite this overall collapse of discipline,
- 23:33the sources say the clergy remained extremely rigid in one
- 23:36single area. The prohibition of marriage to
- 23:39priests. Which is classified not just as
- 23:41a mistake, but as an impious tyranny.
- 23:43And it was catastrophic for several reasons.
- 23:46First, it was unlawful because men forbade what God left free.
- 23:50Second, it led to fornication prevailing among them
- 23:52unpunished, creating the sink of iniquities.
- 23:55And 3rd, it deprived the Church of fit pastors and LED many
- 23:58souls into despair. The sources make a really
- 24:01powerful scriptural case against it too.
- 24:03They point out that the Holy Spirit prophesied this would
- 24:05happen. Yes, Paul declared that in the
- 24:08last days men forbidding marriage would arise, and he
- 24:11called it a doctrine of demons. This prophecy, the sources say,
- 24:16applies directly to the Papists action.
- 24:18And what about the argument that they only forbid it for the
- 24:21clergy to maintain some kind of unique purity?
- 24:24That's dismissed as a childish quibble.
- 24:26They point out that Paul himself, when he was sketching
- 24:29the perfect pattern of a Bishop, listed marriage among the
- 24:32endowments. A Bishop should be a man of one
- 24:35wife. Paul saw it as a qualification,
- 24:38not a hindrance. And given the dignity of
- 24:41marriage, which Christ uses as an image of his union with the
- 24:44Church, how could the Roman Church call it uncleanness?
- 24:48They misused that comparison to the Old Testament Levitical
- 24:51priests, but Gospel pastors don't play that same sacrificial
- 24:55role. And Paul says unequivocally that
- 24:58marriage is honorable among all men, with no exception for
- 25:01clergy. And the apostles themselves
- 25:03prove this. Paul says They not only kept
- 25:05their wives, but took them about with them in their ministry.
- 25:08History confirms it too. The Council of Nicaea, when this
- 25:11first came up, accepted the opinion of Puffnutius, who said
- 25:15that it was chastity for a man to cohabit with his own wife.
- 25:18So how did it change? It was later due to a too
- 25:22superstitious admiration of celibacy that cannons started
- 25:26forbidding it. It wasn't based on necessity,
- 25:29but on this mistaken belief that celibacy brought greater
- 25:32reverence. It led to a tyranny that brought
- 25:34great spiritual ruin. The.
- 25:35Conclusion is just devastating. It is, the sources say.
- 25:38The defenders of this tyranny should first restore actual
- 25:41chastity, remove the adulterers and fornicators, and only then
- 25:45should they stop defaming holy wedlock.
- 25:47As Chris System said, the second sort of virginity is the chase
- 25:51love of matrimony. The Roman system kept this
- 25:53shadow of celibacy with tyrannical laws, while real
- 25:57moral corruption went totally unchecked.
- 26:00So this deep dive into the Institute's gives us this really
- 26:02structured picture of the external order the visible
- 26:05church needs. We've seen that true discipline
- 26:08isn't about arbitrary cruelty, but it's a corrective instrument
- 26:11guided always by gentleness. And it's sharply distinguished
- 26:15from that damnable despair inducing severity.
- 26:19It's essential for upholding the purity of doctrine, for
- 26:21protecting the body from corruption, and for compelling
- 26:24the hardened center back toward repentance.
- 26:26If the discipline fails, the sinews fail and the body just
- 26:29dissolves. We also saw how easily external
- 26:32rights like fasting lose all their use when they get divorced
- 26:35from their internal intention. When they become about hypocrisy
- 26:39and pride, they become abominable to God.
- 26:42Spiritual order needs a proper inward motive.
- 26:45Augustine's careful approach really stands out.
- 26:47He stresses that where the contagion of sin invades the
- 26:51multitude, correction has to be handled gently, focusing on
- 26:54teaching, not commanding, lest zealous severity leads to
- 26:58schism. And that raises A challenging
- 27:00application for you to consider if you observe widespread
- 27:04spiritual negligence in a community, not just the discrete
- 27:06sin of one or two people, but a widespread problem.
- 27:09What is the most charitable yet truthful way to apply the
- 27:12Father's rod without breaking the bond of peace and causing
- 27:16division?