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KILLER WIVES: Deadly Jab · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How does a very popular
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  Speaker 1: local private investigator end up dead? Now, this is a
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  Speaker 1: guy much loved in the community, that knows everybody's deep
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  Speaker 1: dark secrets. I mean, when you're in a small town,
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  Speaker 1: small town comparatively, and you know who's cheating on who what,
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  Speaker 1: husband wants you to tell his wife, and vice versa,
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  Speaker 1: who's paying somebody off, who wants undercover surveillance? You know
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  Speaker 1: it all. Did that have anything to do with the
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  Speaker 1: death of a thirty seven year old husband and dad
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  Speaker 1: and the prime of his life? As I mentioned, much
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  Speaker 1: love in the community. Jim Capello Junior, Crime Stories with
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, I mean, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
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  Speaker 1: and series XIM one eleven. First of all, take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friends at WAFF forty eight Listurley, Jim
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  Speaker 1: Capello Senior, and jim sister Jamie. We're driving to Huntsville
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  Speaker 1: from out of state to lead a search team to
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  Speaker 1: find Jim. Jim's wife posted on Facebook that she had
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  Speaker 1: last spoken to him Thursday morning. She asked for help
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  Speaker 1: looking for him Friday. Jim's sister spoke to him late
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night, eleven o'clock. I had my way to work.
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  Speaker 1: On my way to the car, I did call him
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  Speaker 1: and he answered and he was panicky, real panicky, anxious.
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  Speaker 1: He couldn't get his words together. I TechEd Nicky and
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  Speaker 1: asked her how his night was. She said, at one
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  Speaker 1: point he woke up freezing and she warmed him up.
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  Speaker 1: But after that he slept well, and he's doing well
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  Speaker 1: this morning. I tried calling him twice that day, on
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  Speaker 1: two separate occasions, and he didn't answer. Jamie is a nurse,
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  Speaker 1: and she knew that her baby brother was suddenly and
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  Speaker 1: mysteriously very ill. What do we know about his ailments?
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  Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel. Rachel Hammers crime online
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  Speaker 1: dot com investigative reporter joining us there and Huntsville. Jennifer Shan,
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  Speaker 1: forensic pathologist, former director of the San Diego Police Department
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  Speaker 1: Crime Lab. You can find her at jen Shann forensics
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Former FBI special agent, no stranger to crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Cortesi, renowned psychiatrists, joining us out of the Atlanta area.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold, Jim Elliott, attorney with Butler Snow, legal
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  Speaker 1: counsel for multiple municipalities at Butler snow dot com and
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  Speaker 1: special guests joining us the sister of the victim, Jim Cappello,
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Weist. First of all, I want to go to
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Hammers. Rachel, what can you hold? Hold on? Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. First to Jamie Wist, I want to
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  Speaker 1: go to Jim Cappello's sister. I want to hear about
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  Speaker 1: the victim in this case. Jim Cappello first reported missing.
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  Speaker 1: He was extremely popular. Tell me about his private investigator's practice.
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  Speaker 1: What's his background? Well, he worked for a very well
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  Speaker 1: known um firm. He would do anything from delivering subpoenas
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  Speaker 1: to following cases cheating husbands, cheating wives. He was involved.
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  Speaker 1: He had to stand in a lot of trials in
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  Speaker 1: court talk about what evidence he was able to obtain.
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  Speaker 1: He was very good at what he did, very good.
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  Speaker 1: He was h He held a leading practice in Huntsville.
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  Speaker 1: You know to you, Jeff Cortesi, former FBI special agent,
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  Speaker 1: have you ever been on a steakout? Made up a
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  Speaker 1: bachelor jority of my twis? So you know, to be
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  Speaker 1: a private eye you have to tell people all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So you've done steakouts? Jeff Cortesi. Have you ever tailed somebody?
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  Speaker 1: It's reel hard. It's not like in the movies. No,
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  Speaker 1: it isn't. It isn't. It takes a certain expertise, that's
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  Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, I've done a lot of steakouts
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  Speaker 1: and I've done a lot of telling and it is
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  Speaker 1: not easy. It's not easy at all. It's nothing like
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  Speaker 1: in the movies where you follow and you make all
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  Speaker 1: those green lights and you go right behind them. They
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  Speaker 1: never notice you're there. It's nothing like that same thing
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  Speaker 1: with a steakout. It's nothing like you're led to believe
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  Speaker 1: it is on TV. Explain what it takes to be
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  Speaker 1: an investigator, Jeff CORTEZI it's a it's a combination of
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  Speaker 1: science and art. It is not, as you said, It
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  Speaker 1: isn't as simple as sitting across the street from a house.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's understanding your environment. It's understanding how you appear
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  Speaker 1: to the people outside of your vehicle. It's creating a
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  Speaker 1: situation whereby you are able to conduct whatever necessary surveillance
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  Speaker 1: without being identified as surveillance. And that takes it, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, a lot of understanding of techniques and thinking
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  Speaker 1: outside the box in order to ensure that you can
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  Speaker 1: be in an area without being seen as out of
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  Speaker 1: place within that area. So very sophisticated investigative technique. And
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  Speaker 1: when we fail at within the law enforcement community constantly,
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  Speaker 1: it's all the time, all the time, lose our our targets.
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  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you get out it in a neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Jeff Cortez a the police, the fans,
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  Speaker 1: they're always the butt of jokes about being you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's just say, tripping out of their own sheaf. But
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  Speaker 1: when you're out there and you're telling somebody or you're
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  Speaker 1: doing a stakeout, it's really actually very difficult to pull
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  Speaker 1: it off. This guy, this guy, Jim Cappella Junior, can
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  Speaker 1: do it because according to my information, he's had a
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  Speaker 1: pride to since two thousand and six and was private
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  Speaker 1: investigating before that, long before that. So you don't stay
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  Speaker 1: in the business and make a go of it if
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  Speaker 1: you're not any good. It's just that simple. So this
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  Speaker 1: guy go ahead, No, I was just gonna say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I bet you he that was his bread and butter,
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  Speaker 1: just like it was for US. Surveillance Week obtained some
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  Speaker 1: of the most critical evidence via surveillance and if you
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  Speaker 1: aren't good at it, you will not you will not
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  Speaker 1: make it in that industry. So he had to have
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  Speaker 1: been good at it. Did you hear what the sister
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  Speaker 1: Jamie West said. She said he had worked for another firm.
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  Speaker 1: He had to deliver subpenis. That's certainly putting perfume on
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  Speaker 1: the pig. I have sat outside somebody's apartment for up
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  Speaker 1: to seven to eight twelve hours waiting for them to
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  Speaker 1: come out so I could go up and hand them
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  Speaker 1: with subpoena. I have hidden in parking lots between cars,
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  Speaker 1: waiting to see somebody come out of their office building
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  Speaker 1: and walk to their car so I could ambush them
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  Speaker 1: with a subpoena. And a subpoena dukes take them for
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  Speaker 1: documents or objects. That's not easy. You can get shot at,
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  Speaker 1: you can get cursed at. People run from you if
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  Speaker 1: they know what you want. I mean, it's a hard
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  Speaker 1: way to make a living. Would you agree with that,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Cortesi, Absolutely absolutely, And not only that. Doctor Angela Arnold,
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  Speaker 1: a psychiatrist joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. The
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  Speaker 1: people you hang around with. I told the story the
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  Speaker 1: other day. I was trying to get ahold of a
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  Speaker 1: defense attorney on a Friday afternoon for a month, telling
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  Speaker 1: us a Monday morning court hearing. Finally got his secretary,
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  Speaker 1: his assistant. He was with clients. Guess where he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was with a bunch of his doper clients at
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  Speaker 1: the Magic City Strip Club. I found him. But what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying is, when you work as a PI a
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  Speaker 1: lot of your clients, let's just say it ain't no
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  Speaker 1: tea party, Angela. Right, that's all you've got to say.
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  Speaker 1: You're a psychiatrist, and all you can say is right.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: death of a husband, a father, a good looking guy,
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  Speaker 1: his life in front of him, his own firm as
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  Speaker 1: a private investigator that he fought tooth and nail to
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  Speaker 1: get and sustain. So back to you, doctor Angela Arnold,
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  Speaker 1: all you can say is right. When I'm telling you
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  Speaker 1: and that line of business, you're not hanging around with
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  Speaker 1: nuns and priests and virgins. No, I completely agree with you,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know a lot of people that do
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  Speaker 1: this work, but it sounds like a very dangerous line
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  Speaker 1: of work. Well, doctor angel Arnold, let me let me
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  Speaker 1: be more clear, Let me refine my question for you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you agree that when you hang around haven't you
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  Speaker 1: ever heard birds of a feather flock together? Or water
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  Speaker 1: seeks its own level, or go to bed with a dog,
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  Speaker 1: wake up with a flea? Get it? You see where
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  Speaker 1: I'm going with this? Yes? Do I have to pull
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  Speaker 1: a tooth? I'm a JD not a DDS. No. So
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  Speaker 1: so with other words, if he hangs around with bad people,
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  Speaker 1: that makes them that person. So, Jamie Yeast, No, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying he's well, Jamie Yeast, Your brother, Jim Capello
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  Speaker 1: had never been in any kind of trouble before. No
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  Speaker 1: loving dad, loving husband, family, extended family, and he was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like the guy in the community. I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about hunts Alabama known as Rocket City, the star of Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: population around two hundred thousand, and he was very well
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  Speaker 1: known locally. Am I correct on all that? Jamie? You
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  Speaker 1: said it correctly? And I liked what the other gentleman said.
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  Speaker 1: And that was his bread and butter. That was definitely
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  Speaker 1: he loved his job. Even more importantly, he just he
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  Speaker 1: loved what he was doing. What did he love about it?
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  Speaker 1: Because many people believed at the get go that his
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  Speaker 1: line of business, being a pride an investigator and knowing
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  Speaker 1: all these deep dark secrets, seed secrets. There are secrets
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  Speaker 1: for a reason may have been connected to his murder.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he was making a difference and he
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  Speaker 1: liked the feeling that he was needed and he could
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  Speaker 1: help people. And you know, he was able to help
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  Speaker 1: people in situations such as going through divorces that he
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  Speaker 1: needed to get the evidence for them. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: were they were cheating then the significant other, you know,
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  Speaker 1: was trying to get their children or you know, he
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  Speaker 1: got it. There was some heavy you know what, Jamie,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds like sticking your hand in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a dog fight. Jim Elliott, attorney with Butler Snow represents
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  Speaker 1: multiple cities, towns, counties, municipalities butlersnow dot com. Jim Elliott,
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  Speaker 1: I've got a friend, a very close friend, and she
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  Speaker 1: does practically nothing but dope, trafficking, possession, intent, simple possession, manufacturing, distribution,
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  Speaker 1: the works. Why because she never ever, ever wants to
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  Speaker 1: handle a divorce case. Why because it's more likely that
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  Speaker 1: a angry husband or wife will shoot the lawyer than
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  Speaker 1: a doper. Plenty of examples of that. So she totally
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  Speaker 1: quit the divorce business. Now, when you'd rather represent a
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  Speaker 1: dope lord than handle a divorce. A divorce case, especially
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  Speaker 1: between rich people, they get really nasty. Or when children
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  Speaker 1: are involved and somebody's cheating, emotions run so high. What
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  Speaker 1: do you have to say about that, Jim Elliott. It's
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  Speaker 1: probably the most volatile practice of law, because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you'll expression health, healthinsury, and they're going to be angry
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  Speaker 1: at not me, their spouse or former spouse, but anybody
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  Speaker 1: associated with them, the lawyer, the investigator, the counselor whomever.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's a it's very ballatile, I believe. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: think about it, Jim Elliott. You know my husband and
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  Speaker 1: my children, and I love David, but he better not
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  Speaker 1: ever get between me and my children. Oh no, don't,
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  Speaker 1: don't even. So here is this guy, Jim Elliott, who
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  Speaker 1: is helping one side of the other and divorce cases.
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  Speaker 1: And you may think you've got the good client, the
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  Speaker 1: good side of the divorce, but you know, you don't
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  Speaker 1: really always know. It's like a tiger by the tail.
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  Speaker 1: You can't hold on and you can't let go. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so here is this guy turns up dead and he
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  Speaker 1: is a well known PI in the middle of all
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  Speaker 1: these divorce cases, jump in, Jim Elliott, Well, whatever, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, being on the quote good side of the divorce,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that makes it even more risking for him
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  Speaker 1: because he's because again be your opponent or adversary who
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  Speaker 1: never is a bad person in that situation. And exactly again,
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  Speaker 1: as you say, from children are involved, there's no limit
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  Speaker 1: to what some people will do. Now and think about it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jim, let me go to a shrink on this,
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  Speaker 1: and Jim, you and I are just JD's. We need
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  Speaker 1: a shrink on this, Doctor Angela Arnold. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: it were me and my children, there was a risk
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have custody of them. I wouldn't see them
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  Speaker 1: every single day. I go berserk, berserk, and I would
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  Speaker 1: probably blame everybody on the other side. There was to
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  Speaker 1: blame everybody, from my husband to the lawyer, to the judge,
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  Speaker 1: to the private eye, to the clerk. The whole kitten
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  Speaker 1: gaboodle would get my wrath or I'd want them to.
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  Speaker 1: What is that normal, old, doctor Angela, Well, I think
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  Speaker 1: that that's normal, Nancy. But I think that to murder
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  Speaker 1: someone is a different is taking it to a different level.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. But the other thing is though, And Jim Elliott,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned that this has happened a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: in divorce cases. I've seen lawyer shot over a divorce
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  Speaker 1: case where a client or unhappy on another case, Well,
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  Speaker 1: actually get the lawyer come out of court. I remember
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  Speaker 1: one where they were chasing him and the lawyer was
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  Speaker 1: hiding behind a tree outside the courthouse, and the one
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  Speaker 1: of his clients had a gun and was chasing him
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  Speaker 1: around the courthouse. And here you got a PI up
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  Speaker 1: to his neck and all this. Who probably testified or
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  Speaker 1: big depositions or APPI David's and so again, and someone's
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  Speaker 1: looking for someone to blame. The PI would be a
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  Speaker 1: very convenient target. We know that he was also married.
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Hammers, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, Huntsville, Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: What more do we know about the victim's background? What
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  Speaker 1: can you tell me the background? Where is he from?
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  Speaker 1: Was it how many children? The whole shebang? Tell me
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  Speaker 1: where did they live? Everything? They lived in South Huntsville.
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  Speaker 1: His wife is a nurse, and of course his sister
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  Speaker 1: spoke to his background as being a private investigator. They
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  Speaker 1: had a daughter by all evidence. It looks like the
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  Speaker 1: you know, the typical suburban family life. To Jamie Wee
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  Speaker 1: special guests joining us, this is Jim Capello's sister. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to get an idea of who this guy is.
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  Speaker 1: What can you tell me about his personality? He was
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  Speaker 1: a funny guy. He was always trying to uplift a
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  Speaker 1: bad situation. If you were having a bad day, he
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  Speaker 1: would use his sense of humor and his jokes and
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  Speaker 1: he'd be able to twist it around and by the
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  Speaker 1: end of that conversation you were laughing. He would go
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  Speaker 1: out of his way to make someone else's life better.
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  Speaker 1: He was everyone's best friend, and I learned so much
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  Speaker 1: more about him. Even after this, So many more people
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  Speaker 1: would come up to me telling me stories and situations
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  Speaker 1: that they were involved with him, and how much they
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  Speaker 1: loved him and respected him and cared about him. He
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  Speaker 1: just left a mark and so many people's lives, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, right down to his daughter who just looked
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  Speaker 1: up to him every day. And let me ask you this,
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  Speaker 1: do you remember them You heard your brother wasnt was missing?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Prime stories with Nancy Grace everybody. For those
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  Speaker 1: of you just joining us, private investigator Jim Capello, Junr.
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  Speaker 1: Husband father dead with a thriving private eye practice. Did
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  Speaker 1: that have anything to do with his death? Joining me
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  Speaker 1: Special guests. Jamie Wist, the sister of Jim, the aunt
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  Speaker 1: to the little girl you were about to tell me
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  Speaker 1: about when you first learn that your brother is missing.
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  Speaker 1: What happened? Well, I received a text at eight fifty
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  Speaker 1: in the morning I'll never forget. And this was Friday,
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  Speaker 1: September twenty first, and it was from my mother and
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  Speaker 1: she asked me, have you heard from Jim? And I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear from him yesterday. I heard from him
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  Speaker 1: the day before that he wasn't when he wasn't feeling well.
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  Speaker 1: I said, I've called him twice, but no, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard from him today. And she said, while his phone
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  Speaker 1: is at home but not him. Nicky found it. Jamie,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really upset. This is not like him. His phone, laptop, cars,
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  Speaker 1: everything's at home. I just found this out. So I called, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you what you learned that he's missing through your
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  Speaker 1: mother and the two of your mother and your mom
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  Speaker 1: tells you his phone in his car is at home,
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  Speaker 1: but he's missing. That's right. She knew the car was there.
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  Speaker 1: How close does the mom lived your mom lived to him,
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  Speaker 1: did she drive by and see the car? She did not.
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  Speaker 1: She heard from She got this information from Laura. Laura
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  Speaker 1: is one of the private investigators that worked for my brother,
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  Speaker 1: so she found this out from her. Okay, how did
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  Speaker 1: you know the phone that his cell phone was in
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  Speaker 1: the home. I think that was communicated between Laura and Nikki.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? So? I think I
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  Speaker 1: think we were all finding this out um this Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and I have not I wasn't contacted yet. So I
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  Speaker 1: think Laura and some other really good friends and my
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  Speaker 1: brothers was suspicious of him not coming into work that
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  Speaker 1: day before Thursday. Okay, so that's what raised the red
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  Speaker 1: flag of alarm. Yea to Jennifer Shn forensic pathologists joining us.
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  Speaker 1: You can find it at jenshen Forensics dot com. The
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  Speaker 1: fact that the first red flag was raised by people
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  Speaker 1: at work is concerning to me, and I'll tell you why,
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  Speaker 1: because I would think that someone in his family would
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  Speaker 1: first notice he's missing, and the fact that his car
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  Speaker 1: is there and we now know his cell phone is there,
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  Speaker 1: that changes things in your experience. Jennifer Shn, how often
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  Speaker 1: do coworkers report the person missing. That's really great point, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: And when leased some coworkers reporting someone missing is generally
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  Speaker 1: when the missing person doesn't have a family that they're
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  Speaker 1: living with. And because you're right, I mean, the first
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  Speaker 1: person that should know something, as in this would be
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  Speaker 1: the person that you live with, your wife, your children,
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  Speaker 1: your husband, whoever. So when the co workers are raising
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  Speaker 1: the alarm, it's because that person doesn't have that support
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  Speaker 1: structure in the home and that's why no one's noticed
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  Speaker 1: that they are missing until they don't show up at work.
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  Speaker 1: And someone like this is obviously as successful as he is,
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  Speaker 1: would not be someone who just would not show up
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  Speaker 1: to work without letting anyone know. That would in fact
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  Speaker 1: be a very big red flag. Guys joining us as
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  Speaker 1: a sister of Jim Capello, Jamie Weist, Jim Elliott, doctor
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  Speaker 1: Angela Arnold, Jeff Cortesi, Jennifer Schen and Rachel Hammers. I
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  Speaker 1: want you to take a listen now to cut eleven Fox,
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  Speaker 1: Starty jacksonvill reporter Megan Moriarity. Jamie Weist is choosing to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: be strong and hold on to fief after losing her
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  Speaker 1: brother James. I want everyone to know the person my
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: brother was. He was private investigator in Huntsville, Alabama, a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: beloved friend, and the father of a beautiful little girl.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: She mentions almost every day, if not every other day,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I miss my daddy. Jamie is not only playing the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: role of aunt, but she's also acting as a parent
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: for her five year old niece. We have four kids
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: now and between the ages of five and seven, so
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: literally she fits right in there. The little girl was
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: moved from Alabama and now lives in Jacksonville. This is
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: all while consoling her when she says that she wishes
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: her dad was still here. Before she goes to bed,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: she either gives him a kiss, or she gives him
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a hug, or sometimes she sleeps with that picture. Jamie
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: also has a Facebook group called Legacy of James Capello,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: where people can post stories about her brother. She plans
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to take those stories and make a memory book for
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: her niece. You were hearing about the victim's daughter and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: what she is going through at the death of her father. Now,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: as the case develops, take a listen to our friends
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and cut six WAF forty eight reporter Lindsay Knew. The
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: state is still waiting to receive the final autopsy report,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but the medical examiner told officials it's consistent with being
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: poisoned by insolent. A check at the hospital where Cappella's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: wife worked as a charge nurse showed that insolent was missing.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: The judge found probable cause for the case to move
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: forward in court. What the victim's family was hoping for.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: He's shining down on us right now. He's with us
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: every step of the way. You know, he was well
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: known in the Huntsville community. Here's my son, and I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: miss him. He didn't deserve this, but he deserves justice.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: The couple's daughter, meanwhile, is in the care of loving relatives.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Straight out to Jamie, we see sister of Jim Cappella,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: who is now raising his daughter, Riley. When you her
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: that your brother was missing, what happened next? So nine
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: minutes later, literally I text Nikki and I wanted to
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: find out. I asked her, what in the world is
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: going on? My mom is contacting me. That's when she
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: text back and confirmed Jim is missing now and no
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: one has talked to him or seeing him since I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: did yesterday morning. So you know, I called her prior
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to texting. She didn't answer. I called again after I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: received that text message, and she answered and we had
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: a conversation, and after hanging up, I was shooken up.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: The conversation just didn't seem right to me. It didn't
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: make sense. It just didn't make sense. She didn't seem
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: sad or concerned. I was asking her, oh, my gosh,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you know, dear, have you told your parents yet? She
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: said no, I haven't told them yet. I'm like, why,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you know, and she said, well, they're going to be
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: leaving town, and you know, she was talking about well.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I said, well, my gosh, I got to get down there.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I need to help you and Riley, and we need
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to figure this out as a you know, as a family.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I'll have somebody watch her. I'm
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: going to go back to work. And I'm like, why
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: would you be going? You know, just the conversation was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: very strange to me. And I hung up with her,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and I immediately called the Huntsville Police Department to find
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: out if a missing report was filed. They did not
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: have anything on file. I don't know what their protocol
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: is or how quickly that you know, it comes up,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: but I had called my mother, and I told her
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that she needed to file one. I don't know if
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: one was filed or not, but she needed to file one.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And literally thirty minutes after that text message that I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: sent to Nikki, I was already posting on social media
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: that he was missing. I was the first person to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: post on social media that he was missing. And you know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it just went on from there. My mother had filed
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a police report. She had an officer and come to
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: her apartment. I spoke to him briefly over the phone,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and then that Saturday morning, I was on a mission.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I packed my bags, I found somebody to take care
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: of our kids, and my husband and I left and
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: with very little on us, and we were on a
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: mission that we were going to find him. Crime Stories
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace Guys with Me is Jamie Weis's sister
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: victim Jim Cappello, describing her search for her brother then
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: missing a local private investigator, Jamie we So, you say,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you and your husband throw some stuff together and you
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: went on a mission. What happened then, Oh, we were
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: on a mission. We drove up there, but during the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: drive we were calling people. We were calling for police dogs,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: we were calling trying to get in touch with media
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: to help with a search hunt. My father was on
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: his way. He was in Buffalo and he had a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: flight and he was on his way down there. We
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: were contacting fire departments, urban search and rescue dogs, bloodhound
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: tracking dogs, police departments around town. We were contacting people
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: who had organizations for missing persons. During our drive, we
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: had an organization make a flyer for us. We submitted
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: pictures and then we immediately had those pictures posted and
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: shared on media on social media. And you know, the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: plan was once we arrived, we were I was we
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: were going to start on foot and we were just
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: gonna we were. I was determined to find him. Let
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: me ask you this, how did it strike you when
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: you call the police and found out there was no
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: missing person's report filed, and you go online and you
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: realize you're the first person to post that your brother
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Jim is missing. No postings, no missing person nothing. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: found that to be strange. I just didn't know what
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to make of it. I didn't know what to make
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: of it. All kinds of things were going in my
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: head and I was trying to be realistic with what
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I what the information that I had At that point,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I was trying not to steer my mind off of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: what I thought was bogus thought I was, I'm like,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I just have to get through this. I need to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I need to find him. So the first place you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: went is the home? So I um so yes that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Um Let's see, it was that Friday. So it was
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: that the friday I had tech Niki and I said, um,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: is it okay if we stay at your house. I'm
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to head down there first thing in the morning.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Chris and I are going is okay if we, you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: stay at the house. And She's like, She's like, Jesus, Jamie,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you know this is this is going to make it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You know, Riley think that something's up. I understand wanting
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to come, but it would just you would just be
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: sitting around. And I said, it doesn't matter. If it's
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: my daughter, my husband, brother, I'm going to do everything
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: in my capable hands to help Solpha mead searching on foot,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: then so be it will stay in a hotel. So
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I left that Saturday morning and we had up there
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and my father had arrived on flight and he arrived
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: before I did. And when he got to the house,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: there was police cars already. He was texting me this information.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't get there fast enough. I didn't
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: know what was going on. I didn't know, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I was just getting little tidbits of information. Oh now
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: there was, you know, a crime scene tape up and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I nobody was telling us anything. Did you go to
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the house? I did not when I entered. When I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: arrived Saturday afternoon, when my husband and I arrived, we
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: pulled up and the detective immediately pulled us aside and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: told us, when you pulled up to where the house? Oh,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: so you did go to the house? I did. We
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: went straight to the house. We did not go in
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the house. Okay, there was crime scene, yes, yes, man,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: there was crime scene tape all around and police cars
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and what have you. But as soon as we arrived,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the detective pulled us aside and said what and said
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that they had found that there's a body in the house.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: And I lost it and he asked me, does your
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: brother have tattoos? And I lost it again. Let me
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: ask you, this was your brother already there, I mean,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: your father already there when you arrived at the home. Yep,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: he was guys, I want you to take a listen
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to reporter Aaron Kentrell debut h and Team News Nighteam
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Marjorie Cappello wrote on Facebook she was concerned that she
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: couldn't find her husband, Jim. She was asking anyone with
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: any information to let her know. Marjory Cappello, also known
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: as Nikki on Facebook, wrote the following post. If anyone
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: has heard from Jim since Wednesday, please let me know.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I spoke within Thursday at five am and no one
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: has seen or heard from him since the police report
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: has been filed. But if anyone has any information, please
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: reach out. HPD Taels whin ten news nineteen that Capello
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: was reported missing Thursday night by a friend and family members.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Police a Marjorie Cappello did not let investigators inside the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: home when they asked to search it Saturday, but she
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: voluntarily went to the Huntsville Police Department for questioning. Since
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: she did not let police inside, they had to get
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a search warrant. Police spend several hours at the home.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: So what we're learning is that originally the wife, Nikki,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: would not let police in to search the home. What
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: if it has anything to do with the same reason
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: she would not let her sister in law come to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the home and stay. To Rachel Hammer's Crime online dot
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter joining US Huntsville, Rachel, what do you
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: know about the wife refusing to let the cops in?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: That's a surefire way to get them to go get
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: a search warrant. Oh? Absolutely, Well, when the Jamie said,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the co workers went first and she wouldn't
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: let them in, and his car was there. Then when
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the police came back Saturday, one went around front, one
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: went around back, and she refused them injury as well.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you this to Jim Elliott, how
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: often is it that a woman's husband goes missing as
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: she refuses to let the police into the home to
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: search the home? That certainly raises some red flags. I mean,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: even with his line of work, when there could be
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a number of people that were angry with him. I mean,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: obviously you start looking closest to the victim, and that
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: reaction certainly probably gave the officers and law enforcement all
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: they needed to begin the search. Yeah, I mean I'd
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: call a magistrate right then and get a search. Want
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: to Jennifer Shan, forensic pathologist at jen Shan Forensics. What
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: would insulin do to your body if you were injected
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: with insulin and you were not diabetic, well, it would
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: be very bad. Basically, your insulin is in your bloodstream.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Is that regulates how much sugar you have in it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: So if you have too much sugar, that's really bad
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: for you, and if you have too little sugar, that's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: really bad for you. So in this case, it would
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: have put him in a situation where his blood sugar
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: was exceptionally low. And in cases where there's a huge
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: dose of insulin in someone's body that doesn't need it,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of you know, for a
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: lot of symptoms. You would see anxiety, confusion, the teague, irritability,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: but extreme symptoms would be lost of consciousness, teasers, coma,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and then eventually death. So it is absolutely so dangerous
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: to us with a hormone like that in someone's body.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Jamie Waste, Jim Capella's sister. So you get there and
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: detail for us what you learned from police. They told
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: me that there was a body inside the house, um
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: specifically the garage, and that he was on a blue
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: tarp and um honorably tarp inside the garage, Yes, and
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: she was. She was downtown for questioning. Did they tell
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: you the cause of death at that time? Now they
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: did not. When did you learn the cause of death? Within?
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: The autopsy came back? And I can't recall. I felt
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: like it was forever. M What did you learn about
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the cause of death? That it was consistent with insulin toxicity?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: That is what I was told. And isn't it true
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that the wife, Nicki Cappello, aged thirty three, was a
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: nurse and had access to insulin and that insulin was
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: missing from that unit? That is what I was told? Correct?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Have you spoken to the wife at any point since? Then?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: To Nicki Cappello? Now I have not. Guys, take a
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: listen to Mark Hoover on Catch My Killer. Jim was
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: a successful private investigator in Alabama. Jim and his wife,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Nicole Nicky Cappello, were married with a daughter. Like any
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: other marriage, the Cappellos had their marital issues, but Jim
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: suspected that Nicole was using drugs. After using his experience
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: as a private investigator, Jim found evidence of drug abuse.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: He visited his inn laws, hoping that they would help
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: with an intervention. According to WAF forty eight News. On
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: September twenty first, twenty eighteen, Nicole Cappello filed a missing
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: person's report on her husband, Jim. Jim's co workers also
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: became concerned because Jim didn't come to work. Concern workers
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: called Nicole and then visited Jim's home on Lauderdale Road
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: in South Huntsville. However, she didn't allow them inside the house.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: It must have seemed strange because Jim's car was visible.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Not only were their marital problems. Reportedly after he, the
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: husband now deceased, finds evidence of drug abuse by the wife.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Other problems existed as well. But when the police get there,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: they find a fresh grave in the back yard. They
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: then find Jim's body in the garage. Nikki then a
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: nurse with access to insulin, you know, Jamie wist what
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: could possibly have been the motive? I have no idea.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I would love that answer. I really would love that
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to get that answer. I have no idea. What could
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: come of her to be able to do something like this. Well,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: if he had found evidence that she had been using drugs,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: he could get soul custody of the little girl, the daughter.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I know he was working a case he was, you know,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: building a case for himself. I mean, I think he
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: knew what it would take to be able to get
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: soul custody a father of his daughter, and he was
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: just starting to look into things. And I mean he
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: didn't talk to a diverse a divorce divorce attorney, he
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: didn't file papers. He was looking into his own life.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: He was investigating his own what was going on in
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: his own household during their marriage. What was her demeanor
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: when you guys would get together at you know, Christmas
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: or Thanksgiving? I mean, did they seem like a happy couple?
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: What was she like? I mean I was just there, um,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: July thirty first to August fifth, I was there with
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: my with my kids for Riley's birthday party. I mean,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and that was what like a you know, shy of
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: two months prior to this happening. And it was a
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: beautiful birthday party, was you know, friends and family. And
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I saw my brother even joking around with Nikki and
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: he uh pushed her into the baby pool and you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: was throwing water balloons and they you know got her
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: wet and you know, joking around like you know, but
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: they had I didn't see any strong red flags. I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: didn't see that divorce was before that incident. During the years,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: what was their relationship? Did they seem happy? Yeah, they
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: seemed happy. I mean he you know, he was very
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: He put a lot of hours into his work, A
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: lot of hours into his work. Um, they may have
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that may have been concerning. Um they could have probably
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: used more dates husband wife dates. I but did you
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: have him with an insulin surrange and kill him because
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: you want more time with him? Had to be something
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: more than that. Tell me you now have their baby girl, Riley.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: How is she dealing with the fact that her dad
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: is gone and her mom has been busted into murder charge. Well,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: she does not know about that. She knows that her
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: mom is learning to be a better mommy right now.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: She knows that her daddy is in heaven working on
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: cars with Jesus, because that's what she would understand. She
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: would be in the in the garage with her daddy.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: You know, he would be working on the car and
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and she would be right there handing him tools or
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you know, standing in a bucket of water if he's
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: washing the car or helping him. You know, that's just
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the way they spent their time. If he wasn't taking
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: her to parks and what have you. But so that's
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: what she was able to best understand with the help
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: of a therapist. And so you know, she asks questions,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: She asks, when can I see my daddy again? You know?
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Can can people come back from from heaven? And it's difficult,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: It's difficult. I mean, have you seen Nicki Cappello, for instance,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: in court at any point since your brother was killed?
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: She has not shown up in the civil court appearances?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: How old is Riley? Riley is going to be six
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: on August on August fifth. In the last weeks, the wife,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Marjorie Nicole, known as Nicky Cappello, has pled not guilty.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: The cases it stacks up against her includes Jeff Cortesi,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the fact that she allegedly called a friend and asked
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: for help disposing of Jim's body. You think that friend's
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: not going to be state's witness number one. Boy, There's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of evidence stacked up against her. Um.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't really a question of this isn't
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a who done it by any stretch. Um. You know,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: between the insulin, the behavior, the asking a friend to
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: help with the body, by these are all very damning
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: pieces of evidence. Um. You know the law enforcement military careers. Uh. Similarly,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: private investigators have very tough, dangerous jobs. Um, But it's
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the spouses that have the most difficult job, always worrying
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: about the safety of their of their loved one. So
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: when when that spouse doesn't show the level of concern
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and safety or concern for the safety of their spouse,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: particularly after being reported missing. Boy, those those red flags,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: they didn't spend a lot of time looking elsewhere. I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you that. I gotta tell you had been
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: my first witness, the friend she asked, reportedly to help
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  Speaker 1: dispose of the body, Jamie, are you girding yourself galvanizing
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  Speaker 1: yourself for a trial? I'm ready, I have, I've I've
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: been ready. This is this is almost two years. We
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  Speaker 1: have yet to have a trial. What are the prosecutors
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  Speaker 1: tell you or your parents about it? We have a
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  Speaker 1: date September fourteenth, that's the next um date on the books.
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  Speaker 1: But I was also told that because of COVID and
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: whether they are or not having jury duties, I don't
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: know what's going on currently, if they are having them
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: or because of social distancing and courtrooms. This may very
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: well not even happen until twenty twenty one. And at
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  Speaker 1: this time you are raising daughter Riley. Correct, yep, we are.
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  Speaker 1: We are prepared to raiser for life. God bless you,
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  Speaker 1: God bless you. Our prayers continue for not only you
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  Speaker 1: and your parents, but for little Riley. We wait as
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  Speaker 1: justice unfoalds. Nancy Grace crib Story signing off, goodbye friend