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Blocking the Sun will Kill Humanity | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Jerm. This is Jerm Warfare, the battle
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  Speaker 2: of ideas. All right, James Rogerski, thank you for joining
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  Speaker 2: me in the trenches again.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Happy to be here.
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  Speaker 2: The last time we chatted, we ruffled a few feathers,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm hoping we're going to do that again.
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  Speaker 1: That's not my intent, but I think I've learned some
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  Speaker 1: things over the past summer. And what I think I
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  Speaker 1: have identified is that I'm raising an issue that I
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  Speaker 1: hope will unify people. Now, maybe I'm an optimist, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm offering solutions. Now, I understand that what I've presented
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  Speaker 1: in a recent article is very centered on the United States.
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  Speaker 1: But I've already gotten responses from dozens of people around
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  Speaker 1: the world because one of the things I put front
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  Speaker 1: and center was, you know, if you're from outside the
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  Speaker 1: United States and you want to work with me to
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  Speaker 1: adapt this to whatever country you may be in, and
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  Speaker 1: many people have taken me up on that offer already.
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  Speaker 1: And so I know your audience is, you know, pretty
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  Speaker 1: much all around the world. What we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about mostly the work I've done has been very
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  Speaker 1: centered on United States law. And to summarize it, I
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  Speaker 1: spent the summer, you know, how did you spend your summer, Jim? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I spent my summer writing legislation to ban any attempt
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  Speaker 1: to block the sun. And it got triggered by an
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  Speaker 1: article that I wrote. I wrote a couple of articles
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  Speaker 1: back in June, but the one that really triggered it
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  Speaker 1: was I researched the law in the United States. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was things that I already knew, but
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  Speaker 1: I put it out in an article so that other
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  Speaker 1: people could, you know, know what I knew. And the
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  Speaker 1: law in the United States going all the way back
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  Speaker 1: to 1972 is you can't find the term geoengineering anywhere
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  Speaker 1: in United States law. what you find is the Weather
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  Speaker 1: Modification Reporting Act of 1972. And it's just about reporting.
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  Speaker 1: There's no regulations. In layman's terms, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: go spray some crap in the sky to block the sun,
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  Speaker 1: go right ahead, but just fill out a form and
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  Speaker 1: report that you're going to be doing it in advance
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  Speaker 1: and you're good to go. It's legal. And The definition
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  Speaker 1: of who has to report includes the definition of a person,
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  Speaker 1: legal terminology, except a person does not include someone who
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  Speaker 1: works for the government, either as an employee or a contractor.
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  Speaker 1: And so I published an article and I did a
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  Speaker 1: poll and I asked people, do you think that this
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  Speaker 1: law should be changed? Because it basically says you can
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  Speaker 1: spray anything you want into the sky to block the sun. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the term they use is to modify solar radiation. And
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  Speaker 1: as long as you report that you're going to do that,
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  Speaker 1: you're good to go. But you don't have to do
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  Speaker 1: that if you're a government official or a government contractor.
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  Speaker 1: And 100% of the people that read my article and
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  Speaker 1: responded to the poll said, said, yeah, that law's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: That should be changed. That's wrong on just about every level.
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  Speaker 1: And thank you to everybody who participated back in June
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  Speaker 1: reading that article and responding to the poll. Because when
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  Speaker 1: do you ever see a poll where 100% of people
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  Speaker 1: agree with you? And so I realized that that could
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  Speaker 1: be an area of agreement. The law is corrupt. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't like what the law allows, you can go
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  Speaker 1: on social media and complain about it, or you can
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  Speaker 1: work to change the law. So I spent the summer
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  Speaker 1: writing that law. It's got a big, long, boring name.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Solar radiation modification prohibition and atmospheric transparency
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  Speaker 1: act of next year, because we're a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: away from midterm elections and There's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: whole bunch of new puppets installed next year. So the
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  Speaker 1: point right now is to spread the word. I've tried
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  Speaker 1: to make it easy. I put it all under a
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  Speaker 1: domain name, which is DefendYourRightToNaturalSunshine.com. And you know me, Jerm.
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  Speaker 1: I always give my phone number. So if anybody wants
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  Speaker 1: to talk to me, you know, it's 310-619-3055. I'm in California.
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  Speaker 1: You can text me, call me, signal, telegram, WhatsApp. However,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've already had people around the world reach
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  Speaker 1: out and say, yeah, we want to do this in
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  Speaker 1: our country. It's essentially laws around the world have been
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  Speaker 1: corrupted by industries that wine and dine and lobby, you know, congressmen, senators,
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  Speaker 1: members of parliament, whatever their titles may be. And they
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  Speaker 1: get laws passed that support what they're doing. And so
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  Speaker 1: I'll mention one name you may or may not be familiar.
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  Speaker 1: Your audience may or may not be familiar with the
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  Speaker 1: company called Stardust SRT. You can go to Stardust SRT
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  Speaker 1: dot com and read what they are working on doing.
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  Speaker 1: They've raised about 80 million dollars and they're busy researching,
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  Speaker 1: developing and trying to operationalize spraying stuff into the sky
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  Speaker 1: to block the sun to cool the planet. And they
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  Speaker 1: have publicly let it be known that they've hired a
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  Speaker 1: lobbying firm. They've hired a legal team to most likely
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  Speaker 1: wine and dine members of Congress and the Senate. And
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  Speaker 1: if we're not paying attention and we're not pushing back,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have some kind of legislation passed or
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  Speaker 1: some kind of appropriations passed to do what they want
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  Speaker 1: to do. And the last thing I'll say in this
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  Speaker 1: opening statement is, I would like to encourage everybody, I
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  Speaker 1: did it for the United States, but whatever country you
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  Speaker 1: may be in, get your favorite search engine, you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably not Google, but, you know, whether it's Brave or
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  Speaker 1: DuckDuckGo or whatever kind of search facility, Bing or whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want to use, or ask your favorite, I think
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  Speaker 1: the politically correct thing now is to call it super intelligence, right?
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  Speaker 1: You know, ask your AI, chat GPT or Claude or
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  Speaker 1: Gemini or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Trump has been pushing for everybody to say that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to.
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  Speaker 1: And so use whatever system you want and ask this question.
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  Speaker 1: Research this topic. Do you have, in your country, the
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  Speaker 1: unalienable right to access to sunshine? And I think you
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  Speaker 1: will probably be shocked at the answer that you get.
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  Speaker 1: In the United States, you have a right, it's legal
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  Speaker 1: as long as you just report that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: do it, to spray crap in the sky to block
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  Speaker 1: the sun. But you don't have an unalienable right to
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  Speaker 1: actually enjoy sunshine, which is important for so many things
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  Speaker 1: on so many levels. We could have a whole show
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  Speaker 1: just about why sunshine is important. And so y'all can
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  Speaker 1: just keep complaining and commenting on social media. or we
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  Speaker 1: can work together to try to change laws that are
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  Speaker 1: just corrupt. It should not be legal for companies or
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  Speaker 1: governments or whomever to secretly or publicly spray crap in
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  Speaker 1: the sky to block the sun. And so I wrote
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  Speaker 1: the law, you know, you want something done, you got
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  Speaker 1: to do it yourself sometimes. So I spent the summer,
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  Speaker 1: put my head in a vice and hung out in
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  Speaker 1: a cave and It was kind of quiet publicly for
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  Speaker 1: about three months. But I have written something that I
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  Speaker 1: hope people around the world can unite around. If you
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  Speaker 1: don't like the idea that things are being sprayed in
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  Speaker 1: the sky to block the sun, then you've got to
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  Speaker 1: change the law because the law is the problem.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I mean, before we go any further, this
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  Speaker 2: is obviously related to a previous conversation around geoengineering, chemtrails, contrails,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing, weather modification. It's a whole variety
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  Speaker 2: of vectors basically pointing to the sky. Just for clarity,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in alignment with you in terms of
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  Speaker 2: how we approach the topic. But I'm going to just
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  Speaker 2: clarify that position again, because it does help with what
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about. When we talk about geoengineering or weather modification,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about the deliberate attempt to affect the sun's
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  Speaker 2: rays coming down to us. When we talk about contrails
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  Speaker 2: and chemtrails, we're talking about effectively.
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  Speaker 1: Pollution.
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  Speaker 2: All aircraft release chemical trails are whether you can see
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  Speaker 2: them or not, just like your car does, when they
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  Speaker 2: interact with the atmosphere based on certain conditions, they'll become
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  Speaker 2: white and you'll see them. They are bad. They all
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  Speaker 2: contain toxins and they're not good. And the very nefarious
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  Speaker 2: stuff that is going on also happens where we can't
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  Speaker 2: see it. not necessarily from commercial aircraft. The attempt to
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  Speaker 2: actually actively block the sun, for example, could be part
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  Speaker 2: of various military operations, right?
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  Speaker 1: Could be. I mean, all things can be. I'll let
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  Speaker 1: you finish your statement and then I'll certainly jump in.
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  Speaker 2: No, so basically what I'm getting at is there's a
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  Speaker 2: whole range of dynamics here. And I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: bad idea to get caught up in trying to argue
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  Speaker 2: over very intricate definitions because then we never, ever get
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  Speaker 2: to where we want to get in the conversation. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not talking about you and I. I'm saying that in
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  Speaker 2: sort of social discourse, this is what happens. People will
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  Speaker 2: spend weeks arguing over what a chemtrail is. And then meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes, there's real stuff happening.
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  Speaker 1: You said something in there that I think I disagree
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  Speaker 1: with a little bit. So I'll start with that, because
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, I think you and I are
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  Speaker 1: generally we're not on the same page. We're not in
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  Speaker 1: the same paragraph. We're in the same sentence. We might
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  Speaker 1: be sitting on top of the same word. OK, but
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  Speaker 1: those words matter. And so let me actually expand on
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  Speaker 1: this in the manner in which I came to the
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  Speaker 1: understanding that I have. Most people are unaware. And today,
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  Speaker 1: as we're recording this, it's October 14th. And a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more than two weeks from now, on October 29th,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be the 16th anniversary of the Convention for Biological
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  Speaker 1: Diversity's international agreement for a moratorium on geoengineering. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: don't like that word. I use it as little as possible.
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  Speaker 1: I took a little course, one course in college, and
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it on geoengineering. And when we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about things that are going on in the atmosphere, I
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  Speaker 1: think other words are more appropriate. To me, geoengineering is
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  Speaker 1: that you're doing something actually on Earth, okay? You might
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  Speaker 1: put white roofing materials on your building. you might actually
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  Speaker 1: plant crops that are light colored and actually reflect a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sunlight. There are things like if you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to spray seawater onto the ice, you know, so the
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  Speaker 1: polar bears have some more ice to play with. That's
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  Speaker 1: on the surface of the earth. To me, those types
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  Speaker 1: of things are geoengineering. I'm not dealing with that sort
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. Those are, that's a whole different ballgame. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about what can, the U.S. law very clearly. You
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  Speaker 1: can't find the word geoengineering anywhere in U.S. law. You
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  Speaker 1: can find it in the Convention on Biological Diversity's agreement
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  Speaker 1: from 16 years ago. They have a little footnote, and
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  Speaker 1: geoengineering is currently defined as, and they fill in the blanks.
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  Speaker 1: But then they also said, subject to further discussion, because
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  Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out what the hell terms
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  Speaker 1: to use. And They reaffirmed that moratorium in 2012. They
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  Speaker 1: reaffirmed it in 2016. They reaffirmed it in 2024. And
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be meeting in a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: the Convention for Biological Diversity in Armenia. So pay attention.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll have something more to say about it all
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  Speaker 1: over again. I hope they do. There are many organizations
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  Speaker 1: primarily around the world, not in the United States, who
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  Speaker 1: are Anti-geoengineering, and they have stopped attempts to do even
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  Speaker 1: testing of geoengineering. So here's a bold statement that is
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  Speaker 1: going to freak people out. Geoengineering, in my view, I
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  Speaker 1: have no evidence that it is happening. Geoengineering, as defined
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  Speaker 1: by the international agreement, is not happening. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things going on in the sky, and you can
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  Speaker 1: call it what you want.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I get what you're saying. Yeah, so words matter.
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  Speaker 1: Words really do matter. And let me go through another
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  Speaker 1: couple more words. So what triggered all of this for
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  Speaker 1: me is I went looking for a definition of geoengineering.
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  Speaker 1: The Convention for Biological Diversity has four of them. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're still trying to figure that out. But
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  Speaker 1: it's very clear what, you know, they're really talking about.
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  Speaker 1: And it's something that's done on a global scale to
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  Speaker 1: try to cool the planet because they're basing it on,
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  Speaker 1: I think, a misunderstanding of what is really going on
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  Speaker 1: with climate in general. And they're starting from the assumption,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a whole other conversation, we may or
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  Speaker 1: may not want to go down this rabbit hole. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, global warming, there's too much carbon dioxide, you're
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  Speaker 1: burning fossil fuels, and it's trapping heat, and we're having
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  Speaker 1: global boiling and global meltdown. So we're desperate because everybody's
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  Speaker 1: going to fry. And we've got to do something to
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  Speaker 1: block the sun. So, you know, there's stratospheric aerosol injection,
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  Speaker 1: which is spraying crap in the stratosphere. There's marine cloud brightening, spraying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, seawater up to make clouds so the albedo
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  Speaker 1: of the Earth, the Earth would look more white from
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  Speaker 1: outer space than it would look blue, reflect more sunlight
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  Speaker 1: rather than have the oceans absorb it. Cirrus cloud thinning.
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  Speaker 1: so that they don't trap heat from the Earth and
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  Speaker 1: you can let the heat go back out into space.
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  Speaker 1: Then you start getting into some really interesting ones, like
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  Speaker 1: reflective technologies that would be put into orbit. Elon Musk
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  Speaker 1: has talked about the fact that he wants to put
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  Speaker 1: up 100,000 Starlink satellites and a million data center-based satellites. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Think about a million satellites with, you know, up in
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  Speaker 1: orbit with their solar panels all spread out. They would
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  Speaker 1: be doing, you know, a good amount of blocking the
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  Speaker 1: sun and, you know, messing up astronomy and all that
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  Speaker 1: sort of thing. And then the latest and greatest one
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  Speaker 1: is something called dim sun. Every time I see it,
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  Speaker 1: I think of going and having, you know, dim sun
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  Speaker 1: at a restaurant somewhere. But they literally want to spray dust.
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  Speaker 1: possibly lunar dust, send robots off to the moon to
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  Speaker 1: shoot dust into what they call the Lagrange point between
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  Speaker 1: the earth and the sun so that there's this dust
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  Speaker 1: cloud circulating around the sun between the earth and the
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  Speaker 1: sun to block sunlight. Okay. You know, $ 150 billion, what
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  Speaker 1: the heck, right? Let's, you know, let's let some people
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  Speaker 1: play around with that. Well, I say, no, this is
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  Speaker 1: all crazy Because the premise that you even need to
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  Speaker 1: do that falls apart when you actually start to look at,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is there global warming or have we been
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  Speaker 1: tricked by manipulation of data and fear mongering? And more importantly,
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  Speaker 1: galactic cycles where, you know, there's the sunspot cycle that
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  Speaker 1: fluctuates every 11 years. There are other galactic cycles that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fluctuate on hundreds of years. And there's a
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  Speaker 1: very good argument that around 2030, we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: headed into a grand solar minimum. And so just like
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  Speaker 1: doctors diagnose patients, if you want to think that people
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  Speaker 1: have diagnosed the earth as having a fever and they
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  Speaker 1: want to treat the symptom, well, what if the cause
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  Speaker 1: of any kind of warming that we've been experiencing it's
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  Speaker 1: just solar and galactic cycles that fluctuate over time. What
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  Speaker 1: doctors do is they poison their patients with some kind
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  Speaker 1: of pharmaceutical drug to change their symptoms. And then the
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  Speaker 1: human heals from not just the original problem, but also
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  Speaker 1: the poison that was given to change the symptoms. And
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  Speaker 1: the doctor takes credit for the natural healing. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a decent argument that they're rushing to try to implement
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  Speaker 1: spraying crap in the sky so that when galactic things
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  Speaker 1: shift over time and we go into a cooling period,
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  Speaker 1: they can take credit for solving global warming and take
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  Speaker 1: all of the money to the bank. Because if you
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  Speaker 1: look at a company like Stardust, now I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: make up these numbers, but it's for an example. They've
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  Speaker 1: raised about $ 80 million to do research and development for
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  Speaker 1: aircraft and, you know, material. They're talking about things like
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  Speaker 1: amorphous silica particles. So there's an $ 80 million investment so far.
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  Speaker 1: People are trying to turn a profit. They're talking about
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  Speaker 1: possibly spewing 60 megatons of this particulate matter every year
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  Speaker 1: into the atmosphere to block the sun. Well, let me
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  Speaker 1: do the multiplication for you, because 60 megatons doesn't sound
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  Speaker 1: so bad. But 60 is the number 60. Mega means million.
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  Speaker 1: A ton is 2,000 pounds, at least an American ton.
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  Speaker 1: So 60 times a million times 2,000 is 120 billion
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  Speaker 1: pounds of crap that they want to spew into the sky.
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  Speaker 1: Divide that by 8 billion. You got 15 pounds of
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  Speaker 1: crap that they want to spray into the stratosphere for
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  Speaker 1: every man, woman, and child. Now, don't do this, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because you won't get away with it, but you might
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  Speaker 1: be able to do it in like a town hall
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  Speaker 1: public meeting or something like that. But get 15 pounds
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  Speaker 1: of sand. or get 15 pounds of Epsom salts, or
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  Speaker 1: get 15 pounds of cornstarch or whatever, okay? And dump
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  Speaker 1: it on somebody's head and see if they approve, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Or spray it up above their house and block their sunlight.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you could get it to hang there
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  Speaker 1: and block their sunlight. Now, 15 pounds of stuff per
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  Speaker 1: person times 8 billion people is 60 megatons. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how much it would cost to produce a
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  Speaker 1: pound of amorphous silica. But if they can produce and
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  Speaker 1: deploy a pound of amorphous silica for 50 cents and
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  Speaker 1: charge government a dollar for the contract to do it,
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  Speaker 1: or get that money from Bill Gates or somebody else,
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  Speaker 1: they're turning an $ 80 billion yearly profit on their $ 80
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  Speaker 1: million investment. Do you see why they're doing it? They
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  Speaker 1: don't care, and they're going to try to hide What
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  Speaker 1: might happen when that particulate matter filters down through the
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  Speaker 1: ozone layer in the stratosphere or enters into the troposphere
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  Speaker 1: and starts interacting with clouds and changes weather patterns or
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  Speaker 1: comes all the way down to Earth and lands on
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  Speaker 1: the soil in the water or you breathe it or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. That's inconsequential to them. They want
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  Speaker 1: you to be afraid of global warming. You know, problem, reaction, solution.
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  Speaker 1: create the problem in somebody's mind, get them all afraid,
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  Speaker 1: and you show up with the solution that's profitable for
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  Speaker 1: the people who offer the solution. This is what we're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with. And people such as the ones behind Stardust
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: SRT have hired lawyers to lobby on their behalf with Congress.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: And so you got to fight fire with fire. If
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: they want to try to convince Congress, to pass laws
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: or appropriations or money or whatever, we have to get
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the ear of those congressional leaders, senators, members of parliament,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and let them know that our
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: answer to that is no fucking way. And James, that's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: where I am right now.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. So take me through the goals of your legislation.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: So this is one of the documents that's available on
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: defend your right to naturalism. I thought I turned that off.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There's 15 purposes of the legislation in any
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: legislation in the United States. Usually the third section of
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the piece of legislation is purposes. And so there's 15
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: of them. We may or may not have time to
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: go through all 15. It starts with the obvious. It
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't say it in these words, but thou shalt not
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: spray crap in the sky or put mirrors up in
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: space or do anything to block the sun. But it
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: goes beyond that. And it says, thou shalt not even
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: do the planning for that. If you want to talk
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: about conspiracy, I mean, what is conspiracy other than a
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: group of people getting together to commit a crime? And
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: so the research and development and the operationalization of, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: building out factories to manufacture the material or airplanes or whatever,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: that would also be criminal. But it's not just criminal charges.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: There would be civil causes of action where, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the government could levy fines, but also private causes of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: action where If you learned that they were doing this,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you could file a private lawsuit, go hire a lawyer,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: or do a class action lawsuit. Now, one of the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: reasons why that's in there is over the past couple
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of years, I have put forth in the United States,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: anybody can go to repealtheprepact.com. In the United States, the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: PREP Act was passed in 2005. It corrupted the law
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: 21 years ago now. And it essentially said that if
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the Secretary of Health and Human Services declares it to
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: be so, you cannot sue doctors or hospitals or pharmaceutical
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: companies if they give you some type of treatment and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it harms you. So that's a perfect example of how
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the law has been corrupted by making it impossible, making
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it against the law for you to sue for damages.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: This is doing the exact opposite of that. It's saying,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: if you think they're causing damages, here are the details
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: about how you can bring that lawsuit in addition to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the government filing civil fines or a criminal case. Okay.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: If you have any questions, you can stop my monologue
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and we'll go. There's 15 different aspects to this. One
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of them addresses whistleblowers or actually two of them address whistleblowers.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: We want to encourage that type of activity, protect it
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and actually reward it. So there's a whistleblower fund that
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: if you found out that the government was trying to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: hide something or some company was doing something, it goes
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: beyond just, well, you should say something. for government officials,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: it would make it a legal obligation. It would be
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a duty. You can't sit back and go, oh, well,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just doing what I'm told to do
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: because my boss in the government told me to do it. No,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: if you learn that they're breaking this law, you're obligated
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to blow the whistle. One of the aspects of this
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: is you have to be able to monitor the atmosphere,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to be able to see if some rogue actor, you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Bill Gates could afford to do this. Elon Musk could
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: afford to put up satellites. Certainly China and Russia and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: many other countries, you know, would have the capacity. But,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you know, pretty much any multimillionaire billionaire could get it
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: in their mind that, you know, they're going to save
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the world from global warming and pay somebody to do this.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: It's it's possible. Now, I couldn't afford to do it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: You couldn't afford to do it. But we have to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: make it so that it can be detected. Because sulfur dioxide,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: one of the things that they talk about using, is
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: an invisible gas. If somebody got it in their head
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that they wanted to start spraying sulfur dioxide in the stratosphere,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: you couldn't see it. And so even if they did
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: use particulate matter that could be seen, you know, it's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: going to be just the haze that, you know, you're
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: not going to see white lines in the sky. This
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: is not about the white lines in the sky. So,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a totally different story. One of the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: things that I haven't mentioned yet is with that moratorium
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: on geoengineering agreed to 16 years ago by the Convention
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: on Biological Diversity, There are four nations who did not
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: sign on. Interestingly enough, the United States is not a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: party to the entire convention. We never ratified that, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: we did not sign on to the moratorium. The Vatican
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: is another one of the four. And then Andorra, which
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: is a small country between Spain and France, and South
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Sudan are the four who are not party to it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So quite frankly, the United States is the problem. We
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: have not signed on to the moratorium globally, and our
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: law says it's legal. So one of the aspects of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: this legislation, which is where this all started, would be
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to wipe out the fact that it's legal to spray
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: things in the sky to block the sun and make
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: it so that the government could not do it in secret.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: They would have to report.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to just quickly jump in just for
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: a moment, if you don't mind, James. I'm still baffled
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: that anybody could think that this is a good idea.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Just think about that for a second, spraying things in
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: the sky to adjust the sunlight. I mean, what possibly
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: could go wrong?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a rhetorical question. I think
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Yes. It's just absurd. I mean, it's playing God because
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the consequences are absolutely catastrophic because they're not predictable.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, there have been many computer models that
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: have been run on it. And while those are not
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: necessarily to be 100% trusted, there are many groups around
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the world who have, you know, run models about what
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: might go wrong. And, you know, if you read the
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: article and you go all the way down, you'll see
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that many groups around the world are very, very much
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: opposed to this. I'll try to list off a couple
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: just off the top of my head. If you spray
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: something into the stratosphere, realize that that's where the ozone
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: layer is. And so if those compounds block the sun,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: they would trap heat in the stratosphere, which would speed
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: up chemical reactions. Many of those particles might attract moisture.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: They might attract sulfur. They might attract other compounds. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the chemistry that might happen, you know, with spraying 120
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: billion pounds of microparticulate matter, if you can imagine, you know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you can't see, I'm going to say microparticle as opposed
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to nanoparticle because they probably are in the micron range, okay?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: But you can't see it. It's microscopic. You might see
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it if the sun hits it and reflects off of it. But,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you know, imagine the enormous number of surface area where
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: chemical reactions could happen. And some of those chemical reactions,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: they act like catalysts. So you put the chemicals there
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and the reactions keep happening. So, you know, one particle
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: could impact millions of molecules of ozone. They don't know.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: There's only one way to find out. And, you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it would be a grand experiment because there's no way
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to know what would really happen if you did something
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: on a global scale. We don't have Earth 2.0 to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: go fly to some other planet and do it to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: their atmosphere to see how it works and then, you know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: have the results come back. It's a ridiculous, you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the hubris, the vanity, the narcissism of this. But it
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: comes from the type of thinking. that people go through
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: when they are starting from a place of fear. If
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: a person was raised and indoctrinated with, my God, carbon
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: dioxide is being elevated and it's causing global warming and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: we're all gonna die unless we do something. Interestingly enough,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: many of the most Ardent supporters, or I should say
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: opponents of geoengineering, are people who really believe the global
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: warming story, and they oppose geoengineering, spraying things in the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: sky or putting up reflective material, because they believe that
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: that would be like a Band-Aid, and they want to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: do away with all fossil fuels. And so some of
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the best allies, sometimes two wrongs make an ally, right?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: They believe the carbon dioxide story, and so they oppose
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: geoengineering because they think the oil companies are behind it, okay? Well,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't agree with either of those two things,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: but you end up at the place where we can
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: agree to oppose spraying stuff in the sky to block
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the sun, right? I can, I can agree to disagree
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: with you on some things if we end up working
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: together on something that we agree on. And so, um,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: there's a handful of other things in the law. I
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: don't think we're going to get to all 15 of them,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: but you know, one of them is what if some
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: rogue actor decided that they wanted to start doing this
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and the, the task force, um, and, and, and the, um,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the monitoring system that this law would put in place
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: identified it. Well, the only way you're going to stop
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: it is the threat of military force. And so I'm
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: a very peaceful person. But, you know, if you take
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it upon yourself to go spraying 60 megatons of crap
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: up in the sky, I think we have a right
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to shoot your drone out of the sky. And It's
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: not that I'm advocating people do any kind of violence
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: on the ground. We don't need any vigilantes. We need
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: this to be written in legislation. So it's crystal clear
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: that the will of the people is that, no, we
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: have a right to unadulterated sunshine. And whoever the hell
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you might think you are, you do not have the
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: right to block it because you believe that you're doing
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: something good for humanity. It says in here very clearly
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that that's not an excuse. It wipes out any type
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: of reasoning where it says, well, you know, I work
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: for the government and I was just following orders. Or, well,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: we were doing it to save the planet. In this law,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: it says very clearly that's not a defense. You don't
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: get to try to pull that story. You're not allowed
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: to infringe upon my right to sunshine just because you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: think you have the authority to do that. That authority
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: does not exist.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Do you think you've got support politically? I mean, does
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: this have a chance? I.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: At the moment, people aren't even thinking this way. So
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I spoke to somebody earlier this morning, and they asked
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: me pretty much the same question. And so I'm an optimist,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: so I think all things are possible if you put
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: your mind to it. At the very least, I know
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: that it's possible for us to move the Overton window,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to change the discussion. If sometime in 2027, I find
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: myself online and I see people arguing about what the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: fine should be. Oh, the fine should be a trillion dollars,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you know, so Elon doesn't do it. Oh, the fine
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: should be more or less. Or, oh, no, you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: they should get the firing squad. Or, no, they should
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: just get, you know, life in prison or whatever. Or, no,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you know, we need to ban this type of experimentation
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and studying and modeling. Or, no, that should be.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Step number one is we have to change the discussion.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: We have to clarify what it is we're talking about.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, I'm putting it out there to everybody.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: My phone number, 310-619-3055. Reach out on Telegram or WhatsApp
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: or Signal or text message or whatever. We need to
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: get the discussion focused on what is really going on. Now,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: there are other words. that you mentioned earlier, and we've
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: only talked about, quote unquote, geoengineering. Geoengineering is multifaceted. There
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: are many other aspects to it. But then there's also
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: weather modification. Now, in the United States, for the most part,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: cloud seeding only happens in the western part of the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: country because it's dry, mostly desert. Nevada, Arizona, you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: so for Utah. Some of the legislation that has been
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: passed in Tennessee and Florida and Louisiana banned weather modification,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: but nobody in Tennessee, Florida, or Louisiana has ever done
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: weather modification because they got plenty of rain on a
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: relatively regular basis. They're not dealing with desert conditions. You know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: try to pass those laws out west, you're going to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: run into some serious difficulties. Now, the Attorney General in
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Tennessee said, well, you know, we got this little problem
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: because there's Title 49 in the U.S. Code that says
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the FAA and the federal government has jurisdiction over the airspace.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And so if somebody's doing something on the ground, if
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: they're spraying some type of compound on a ground-based situation,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Tennessee's law might cover that. But you know, what I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: want to get people to understand is on a state level,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: it's appropriate to address the issue of cloud seeding and
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: localized smaller scale things that pretty much are limited to
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that space within your state. And so if you're opposed
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: to Spraying silver iodide or, you know, other methods of
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: cloud seeding. That's a state issue. You know, have at it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Give me a call. We'll talk about that. That's a
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: different issue. But the jurisdiction over the airspace in the
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: United States is a federal issue. But then you get
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to this bigger issue of international. You know, what do
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you do over the oceans? What do you do over
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the Arctic and the Antarctic? What do you do if
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: somebody sprays something over their country, but it blows over
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: in the stratosphere into another country? It really, you know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the Convention for Biological Diversity is the only group that's
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: really dealt with it. And there's a full-on moratorium. So
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: most nations' diplomats have said no, okay? But, you know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: how are they going to enforce that? How are they
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: going to monitor that? And most people don't even know
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that that moratorium exists. Because what people have been confused
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: about are, and these are terms that I typically do
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: not use. They talk about contrails versus chemtrails. And we
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: talked about that last time. And I think there's a
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle that will be very, very, very,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: very helpful. I don't use those terms. What you see
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: in the sky, you've already said it, is jet engine
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: exhaust pollution. I'm going to say something that will get
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: almost everybody pissed at me. And don't direct it to germ,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: you know, direct it to me. You got my phone number,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: call me. If you are taking photographs or videos of
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: white lines in the sky and posting them on social
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: media and claiming that you are being sprayed like a bug, okay,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I will challenge you to do something a little bit different.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Get a telephoto lens for your camera and take a
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: photograph of the aircraft. And what you will find.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I have said this a hundred times. I've said exactly
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: the same thing.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Must have been where I got it through the ethers, okay?
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Take a photograph of the aircraft and 100% of the time,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: what you will find is that there is a gap
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of invisibility between the engine, the turbine engine, or there's
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: either two or four on the plane, where you cannot
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: see any white line. You might see waves like a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: mirage from the heat that is coming out of the engine.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: And then magically, 10, 15, 20 meters or more behind
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the engine, this white cloud this long toxic cloud, will begin.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: There's this zone of invisibility, this gap. What that means
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: is there are pollutants coming out of the engine that
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: are hot, along with large amounts of water vapor. And
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: it could be 100 degrees or more on the ground
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: where you're taking the photograph from, but at elevation, it's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: minus 50, minus 60 degrees. And so it takes a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: second maybe for the water vapor to freeze and condense
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: upon the particulate matter. So it's invisible for a second
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: or so. And you can photograph or video that. Now,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: if you don't see that gap and you see some
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: kind of a nozzle and you see some white particulate
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: immediately coming out of that nozzle, You've discovered some evidence
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and send it to me and I will publish it
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in a heartbeat.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: But they don't ever do that. That's the problem.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: They don't ever do that. And so the point is
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the white lines in the sky are jet engine exhaust pollution.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: You see them because the plane happens to be flying
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: through an area where it's cold and moist. It's called
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: an ice supersaturated region. And if it's really moist and
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: really cold, that jet exhaust will spread all over the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: place and it'll spread into cloud cover. Now, I am
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely not saying that other things could be sprayed. They
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: spray pesticides, they do all kinds of things. I just
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: have never once in the more than a decade that
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I've been digging into this ever seen any actual evidence.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: What I see are white lines in the sky after
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the fact. So let me give you an analogy that
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: might help. You're familiar with graffiti, okay? You could go
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: into almost any city and take photographs of graffiti, okay?
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: But do you know if it was from spray paint
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: or maybe some artist actually painted a mural? Maybe they
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: used spray paint. Maybe they brushed it off. Unless you
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: take a photograph or a video of the artist in
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the act of doing their graffiti, you can't say. You
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: don't know. And so what we are dealing with is
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: people who are taking photographs and videos of graffiti in
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the sky. claiming that it's the government spraying them like
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: bugs or the military or whatever, when if they just
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: took the small effort, and it's an expense, I get it,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: and it's not easy, okay? But if they got a
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: telephoto lens and they zoomed in, they're going to teach themselves.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I can't tell them. You have to teach yourself either
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong or I'm right. And unless you do it
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: and you see it and you experience, and at that point,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you're going to start to question the gurus who have
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: been telling you that, no, it's not jet engine exhaust. No,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: high bypass turbofan engines cannot make contrails. The term contrail
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: itself is a con. It's not just condensation. It's contamination.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And if you take a step back, we talked about
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: this last time, and this is all documented on projectinhumanity.com,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: which is what we talked about the last time. There's
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: between 100 and 150,000 flights per day in commercial aviation.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Those planes use approximately 120 billion gallons of jet fuel
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: every year. Try to picture 120 billion gallons of jet fuel, okay?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: That turns into, because each gallon is about 6.7 pounds,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: that's about 800 billion pounds of jet fuel every year.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: That's about 100 pounds per person. Now, 25% of that
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: jet fuel, according to the specifications by the International Body ASTM,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: 25% of that jet fuel can be aromatic hydrocarbons, which
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: are carcinogenic compounds like benzene. So 200 billion pounds of
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: jet fuel is aromatic hydrocarbons that are carcinogenic. About 3%
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: of that 800 billion pounds is naphthalene. I think we
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: talked about that last time. That's what they use to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: make mothballs. It's a neurotoxin. Those compounds do not combust fully,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and the exhaust from the combustion of that jet fuel
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: produces about 350 septillion pieces of particulate matter every year.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: It's a number you can't even comprehend. It's a trillion trillion.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And it also produces about a trillion pounds of water vapor.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: So you take 350 septillion pieces of toxic particulate matter
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that is the exhaust from the jet fuel, and you
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: mix it with a trillion pounds of water vapor, You're
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: making long, thin, toxic clouds that are visible only 5%
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: of the time because it's cold and moist. 95% of
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the time, that's invisible. And so when you see a
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: blue sky day and you think, oh, they're not spraying today,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you're wrong. They're polluting the sky every day. 5% of
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the miles flown, Mother Nature works with you and makes
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the ice stick and you can see the ice trail.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: You should be just as angry every single day because
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: that pollution is happening all the time. And so that
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: whole contrail chemtrail lie is the classic, you know, here's
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the official narrative. Go listen to Lee Zeldin in the EPA. Oh,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: these are just water vapor contrails. You know, it's just
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: jet exhaust, whatever. Versus, oh, contrails dissipate and chemtrails linger. Well,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the chemicals that are coming out of every aircraft linger.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I hear this so often also, James. It's so annoying.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: It's the same stuff that gets said over and over
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: and over.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so what we're dealing with is, at the
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: very least, we're dealing with all kinds of spraying of
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: toxic compounds, glyphosate and pesticides and herbicides. And I mean,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: the things that, you know... with the recent attempts, you know,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: to make even that so that you can't sue for
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the harms of that, you know, industry has corrupted the
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: law to make immoral, unethical behavior legal. And so we
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: see it with, you know, crop dusting and glyphosate and
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: all these many chemicals. Yes, the military does spray adulticide
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: to kill mosquitoes and other insects and things like that.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: So you may witness that the main base actually is
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: in the town I grew up in. It's in Youngstown, Ohio.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: So yes, there is spraying, but the white lines in
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: the sky are not aluminum, barium, strontium, and coal fly ash.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: It's jet engine exhaust to the tune of nearly a
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: trillion tons. pounds a year. So even if they are spraying,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: it's several orders of magnitude smaller than that. What this
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: law talks about is not happening. There is no global
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: geoengineering to block the sun happening. It's in the development stage.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Why would Stardust be raising $ 80 million to try to
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: operationalize this project if somebody was already busy doing it?
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense. So what people, I think, need
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to do, and this is, I think I disagree with
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: what you said, but I think maybe you'll come around
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: and agree. Words matter. And what happens is what I
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: call whataboutism, okay? I've written a law that, if passed,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: would criminalize what most people call geoengineering, which is solar
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: radiation modification, attempting to block the sun to cool the planet.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: That's one aspect of this. But then people will go, well,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: what about HAARP? And what about NEXRAD? And what about,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: you know, Bill Gates? This whataboutism makes it so that
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: people cannot stay focused on one aspect of this. If
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you're concerned about the white lines in the sky, what
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: you're looking at is not what you've been told. You've
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: been deceived. You've been confused. Once you get clear on that,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: there are things that can and should be done to
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: clean up jet fuel. And that all starts with an
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: international organization called ASTM, because as long as they allow
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: there to be 3,000 parts per million of sulfur and
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: 3% naphthalene and 25% aromatic hydrocarbons in jet fuel, which
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the technology exists for them to just say, do the
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: refinery procedures and clean that crap out of the fuel,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: you'll see a dramatic reduction in the pollution coming out
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: of the jet engines, and thus you'll see fewer white lines.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: It won't eliminate them completely, but it would be dramatically reduced.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: If that's what your gripe is, then apply the appropriate
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: answer and method to fix that problem. Shout out to
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Jim Lee and Renette Sanum and Michael Hogan and Amy
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Vilela and Leslie Mnookian and Valerie Farrell for putting forth
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: an EPA petition that the EPA has completely ignored for
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: five months now. So another month goes by, you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: they're talking about suing to get the EPA to pay attention.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: That's what you do for that problem. If you don't
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: like weather modification, cloud seeding, making it rain, you know,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Rainmaker and other companies in the United States, that's something
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you got to do on a state-by-state basis. If you're
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: concerned about companies and governments that are trying to block
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the sun because they believe the global warming story, really
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: that needs to be done on an international basis. But
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Each nation should put their foot down and say, you know,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: that they oppose it. And quite frankly, the United States
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: is the worst offender. We're not a party to the agreement,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: to the moratorium. Our laws are screwed up. And so,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you know, I spent the summer writing legislation that all
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I ask people to do is to stand up for
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: your right, you know, defend your right to naturalsunshine.com. Just
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: read it. And if you want to adapt it to
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: your country, give me a call and we'll get it moving.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: But if all you want to do is bitch and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: call me names, you can do that too. I'll find
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: it very entertaining. Well, okay.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: So on that note, one last time, James, where can
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: listeners go?
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I've tried to make it easy. If you just go
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: to defend your right, to naturalsunshine.com. Um, if you want
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: to look deeper into, uh, the white lines in the sky,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: go to projectinhumanity.com. And my phone number is 310-619-3055. You
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: can text me. That gets the conversation started usually pretty easily. Um,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: call me, uh, telegram, signal, WhatsApp, you'll be able to
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: find me there. Uh, It's easy to complain. The work
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: that needs to be done is hard. And the companies
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: that have the money to pay the lobbyists to convince Congress, Senate,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: or Parliament, wherever you may be, they're busy working all
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: day long every day, doing the reports, doing the research,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: reading the documents. If we don't realize that they're good
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: at that game and use people power to get the
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: ear of our members of Congress, representatives. You know, government sucks,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: but only because we let it. When people speak up,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: you know, if 100 people go banging on their member
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: of parliament's door and demand that they not listen to
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: these companies, that they listen to the people, you have
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: a fighting chance. But if you just sit back and
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: complain on social media and put something down in the comments.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, the other day I did a Twitter space
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: and towards the end of it, the gentleman claimed, you know,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: that I obviously am working for the CIA. It's like, well,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: you know, it's very easy to make unsubstantiated claims. And
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: if you go online and you look at what people
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: are doing, it's almost all unsubstantiated claims. It's very easy.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: point up in the sky, take a picture of a
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: white line and say the government is doing it. But
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: that's not correct. That's inaccurate. You can prove it to yourself.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I could give you data until the cows come home.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: People who are stuck in a religious belief system where
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: they're unable to accept new information, you can't tell them
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: anything and I'm not going to try. But you can
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: prove it to yourself. that what is causing those white
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: lines in the sky is jet engine exhaust pollution, weather modification.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: If you live in a desert, you might be for it.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: If you feel that those issues are important to you
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: in your location, then take the action that needs to
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: be taken in your location. But if what you're concerned
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: about is the insanity of massively on a global scale,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: allowing companies or governments or rogue actor billionaires to spray
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: megatons worth of crap in the sky, then go to defendyourrighttonaturalsunshine.com. And,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: you know, ask your favorite search engine or AI if
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you have a right to natural sunshine. and the fact
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: that the answers come back that you don't is absurd
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: and until you focus on the things that are appropriate
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: for that which you find unacceptable if you're putting your
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: effort in the wrong direction you're going to get nowhere.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: James Rogowski, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.