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Joe Montana Interview with Adam Lefkoe · Bleacher Report

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  Speaker 1: All right, everybody in the wonderful BRUP Welcome to something
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  Speaker 1: that I couldn't be more excited about. It is interviewing
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  Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever do it, a
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  Speaker 1: four time Super Bowl champion, the original Joe Cool Joe
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  Speaker 1: Frickin' Montana in the house.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks man, appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl week Yep, you've now been to a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of them. How different is it now compared to when
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  Speaker 1: you were in these because I feel like now it
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  Speaker 1: is a festival, it is a circus. It's got to
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  Speaker 1: be different, Oh for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when you watch the media day, when you
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  Speaker 2: see the highlights of it on TV. For the players,
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  Speaker 2: it's insane. There's just so many people out there. And
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  Speaker 2: yeah there were a lot, well we were when we
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  Speaker 2: were playing, but well with all the social.
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  Speaker 1: Media and all the.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's Twitter everything you want to talk about, sure is
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  Speaker 2: now always at the game. And it's got to be
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  Speaker 2: tough on the guys, know, yeah, the pressure to.
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  Speaker 1: And yet we have a guy like Mahomes that I
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  Speaker 1: feel like is unfazed by any of this stuff. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when you're in the process of building a dynasty. I'm
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  Speaker 1: hearing the Chiefs a lot say right now, Oh, we
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  Speaker 1: don't talk about it. Did you guys talk about it
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  Speaker 1: when you were building a dynasty?
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Never came up, maybe like after the game or at
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  Speaker 1: the parade, but then it never came out. No.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that came up was we got to
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  Speaker 2: get to the next we want another one, So you
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  Speaker 2: don't think about the dynasty part of it. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: I think once once you're out of it, and then
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  Speaker 2: people like me are asking about it when you have
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  Speaker 2: a chance to look back on it while you're in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of it. Yeah, that's probably why they don't
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about it, is that they're still they're
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  Speaker 2: still going. Yeah, they got a long way to go
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  Speaker 2: with that with the team they got.
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  Speaker 1: And how hard is it sustained excellence? How hard is that.
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  Speaker 2: Just sustain that level?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't think mentally it's that hard. I
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  Speaker 2: think that the longer you keep pushing into your off
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  Speaker 2: season year after year after year, I think the team
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  Speaker 2: just begins to break down, Like physically, you don't have
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  Speaker 2: the same time to recover. Sure, it was it became
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  Speaker 2: a little bit different for us because Bill Walsh did
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  Speaker 2: something that no one was doing at the time, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody else is doing it right now,
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  Speaker 2: but we got to a point where during the training
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  Speaker 2: camp we would never wear pads. We'd put shoulder pads
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  Speaker 2: on to time up some running stuff, and then if
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  Speaker 2: we were going to scrimmage, you put pads on, and
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  Speaker 2: then as soon as the scrimmage part of practice was over,
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  Speaker 2: you take them off.
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  Speaker 1: And that started as you guys were going deeper into
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  Speaker 1: the year for Super Oh Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And so what he started to realize was that offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 2: they never wear, you know, the long sleeves or anything,
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  Speaker 2: so you would he would see their arms were just
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  Speaker 2: nothing but bruises from Sunday to Sunday. And so he
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  Speaker 2: came up with this idea that you know, as long
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  Speaker 2: as you guys show me the effort, we're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: wear pads. We'll put and in practice during the season
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  Speaker 2: we put shoulder pads on for a ten play period
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  Speaker 2: of run plays the time up and that off they'd go,
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  Speaker 2: and he goes, but if I don't see the effort
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  Speaker 2: I want to see, we'll go back in and put
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  Speaker 2: the pads on.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fair arrangement, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he was one of the first like you
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  Speaker 2: would hear guys when we were playing guys after the game. Seriously,
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  Speaker 2: you guys don't wear.
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  Speaker 1: Pads after the game bringing it out.
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  Speaker 2: I go, you would die laughing because we we had
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  Speaker 2: one of our defensive linemen and he was hurt, but
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  Speaker 2: he was going to play. He came up, he had
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  Speaker 2: a stool, he was sitting on a stool and watched practice.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy you said the phrase Bill had an idea? Boy,
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  Speaker 1: did he have ideas?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: How did where do you think that came from? With
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  Speaker 1: with Bill Walsh? Because I feel like he looked at
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  Speaker 1: the game so differently than anyone else ever had at
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  Speaker 1: that point.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was we had no idea, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but he would he stuck. I mean, he put a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time in and he prepared and prepared. He
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  Speaker 2: prepared hard to anybody. And sometimes he would put in
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  Speaker 2: a play and we'd run it and practice and it
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  Speaker 2: would it was terrible, really right. So then I get
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  Speaker 2: in the game and I had to start to get
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  Speaker 2: I started to call the play and you would hear
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  Speaker 2: someone go, no, no, here, we let's go, and then
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  Speaker 2: you run it in the game and it would be
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  Speaker 2: open and you would, but it was only for it
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  Speaker 2: was so weird. It would be like only for a
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  Speaker 2: specific part of the field against at a certain time,
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  Speaker 2: he had it all measured out exactly when he was
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  Speaker 2: going to call that play.
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  Speaker 1: The blessing of being a really good athlete at the
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  Speaker 1: same time as having a really good coach sometimes that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't align. Do you see that with Pat and Andy?
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  Speaker 1: Do you see a similar relationship that you and Bill had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're at that point where he gives
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  Speaker 2: him a lot of leadway and a lot of rain.
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  Speaker 2: Once he gets to the line of screamage, you can
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  Speaker 2: see him calling for plays with his hand and but
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  Speaker 2: for the most part, once he gets to play, you
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  Speaker 2: know that's a quarterback who is prepared in his studied.
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  Speaker 2: When you can give him someone that amount of lead
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  Speaker 2: way to be able to change plays, that tells you
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  Speaker 2: the coach has a lot of confidence in his ability
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  Speaker 2: and understanding of what he's looking at. And it takes
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  Speaker 2: a lot of time to get to that point as
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  Speaker 2: a player. So that was one of the things where
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  Speaker 2: I eventually got with Bill, where he realized I understand
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  Speaker 2: what his offense was about, right, Because in the beginning
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  Speaker 2: part we didn't have Jerry Rice and John Taylor. We
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  Speaker 2: had Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon. But our passing game
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  Speaker 2: was basically a part of our running game because we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have Roger Craig at that time. And so he goes,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna give you guys down the field,
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  Speaker 2: but first down in that I don't need you to
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  Speaker 2: force it.
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  Speaker 1: Take it. Take what's that?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you two more guys down here,
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  Speaker 2: take free money. Yeah, and and take four or five
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  Speaker 2: and just keep That's just I want to keep pressure
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  Speaker 2: on the defense. And so and it's funny like defensive
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  Speaker 2: minds and how they were. So you you you hear
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  Speaker 2: it a million times. Somebody hands the ball off on
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  Speaker 2: first down, you gain four yards, right, you can't give
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  Speaker 2: up four yards on a run?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, first down?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you drop back the pass on first down, don't
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  Speaker 2: like what's down there, hit the tight end for four yards.
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  Speaker 2: They feel like they won. You're right, you're right, and
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  Speaker 2: well it's the same four yards. Yeah, And then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden you're inside their twenty and they're going
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  Speaker 2: how they get here?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly? So, because we matriculated our way down the field.
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  Speaker 1: The discussion of greatness and its eras are always a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady was such a fan of yours and the
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  Speaker 1: way when he was accomplishing things. I'm sure you were
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  Speaker 1: talking about that. Now we're getting a lot of pat
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  Speaker 1: with Tom. Is pat in already in that discussion with
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  Speaker 1: you guys? Can you feel him in that group?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? By far he's in And it's not really with
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  Speaker 2: me and Tom, it's just in general. You know, he's
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  Speaker 2: in the upper echelon of quarterbacks and what they've been
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  Speaker 2: able and he's only twenty nine. That's that's the sad part.
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  Speaker 2: He has many a sad parts for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: NFL teams. Definitely, definitely, But yeah, he's definitely what all.
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  Speaker 1: Three of you have though, is in the biggest moments
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  Speaker 1: you are obviously cool under pressure. Is that a trait
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  Speaker 1: like not everybody has that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I always try to figure out how what it
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  Speaker 2: is or what it was inside of me that. But
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  Speaker 2: the one thing I tried to do join the games,
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  Speaker 2: whether we're winning, losing, or the game was tight going
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  Speaker 2: back and forth. I tried to keep my personality the same,
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  Speaker 2: and but I I never was afraid to be in
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  Speaker 2: the with the ball in my hand. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather have the ball in my hand than to rely.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we had great defenses, don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 2: because they'd stop everybody. But I'd rather have my I'd
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  Speaker 2: rather have my hands on the ball when it came
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  Speaker 2: down to it. It was a lot more fun too.
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  Speaker 2: Accord back, that's the.
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  Speaker 1: Favorite story of you, of the John Candy story, loosening
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  Speaker 1: it up. Oh my god, is that John Candy out there?
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  Speaker 2: It was?
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  Speaker 1: I asked us to Jayden Daniels. It's hard being the
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  Speaker 1: guy because you can't have an off day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Was there moments where in the midst of this run
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  Speaker 1: where you'd be in the parking lot before walking into
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  Speaker 1: the facility and being like, come on, Joe, everyone like
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  Speaker 1: you gotta almost have to like pump yourself up to
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  Speaker 1: be the guy. Or was it just always there?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's it's just the Yeah, I didn't even think
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  Speaker 2: about it, that's just it.
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  Speaker 1: Never it never felt too much weight, is what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: No, And I think part of it the reason is
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  Speaker 2: is that when I got when I got to the
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  Speaker 2: forty nine ers, I you know, I thought I was
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  Speaker 2: I had a good preparation behind me. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: played at Notre Dame, won a national championship, we played
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  Speaker 2: in all kinds of we won three other bowl games,
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  Speaker 2: we played the semi pro USC team every year. And
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  Speaker 2: but I really, till I met Bill, had no idea
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  Speaker 2: really what preparation was about. And I think the way
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  Speaker 2: he taught the quarterback or he wanted everybody to prepare,
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  Speaker 2: was I want you to come to and try to
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  Speaker 2: be perfect every day, not just Sunday, because how you
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  Speaker 2: practice is how you're gonna that's what you're striving to
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  Speaker 2: practice or play life. Sure, so he wanted you to
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  Speaker 2: be perfect every day. And it became it wasn't me
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  Speaker 2: against our defense in practice, it was me against me.
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  Speaker 2: So I fought myself to try to be perfect every
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  Speaker 2: day every day.
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  Speaker 1: Who were you being compared to in your era? Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: was it Phil, Phil Simms? Who else?
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  Speaker 2: You don't know, who else.
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  Speaker 1: Are you being compared to during that run?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if there was. I've never heard comparisons.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of just you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know we had we always had a
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  Speaker 2: battle with Phil all the time. That those were some
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  Speaker 2: fun days. But yeah, we joke about it today. Well yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and uh but yeah, his preparation, I think. And when
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  Speaker 2: you have that preparation, yeah, you go into a game,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're just yeah, it's nothing. I mean because when
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  Speaker 2: you practice those guys on we practice against every day,
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  Speaker 2: they know all our audibles and everything. Yes, and so
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  Speaker 2: they cheat and they you know, the defense because they're
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  Speaker 2: always cheating, and so they would if you can beat
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  Speaker 2: them and you go into a game field pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: This what happens is that every generation thinks their generation
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  Speaker 1: is better than the one before. We have it in basketball,
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  Speaker 1: we have it in football as well. What's interesting in
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  Speaker 1: terms of wide receivers is people go, oh, random Oss
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  Speaker 1: Terrell Owens, like the younger generation doesn't put Jerry out there,
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  Speaker 1: even though the stats are crazy. How do you explain
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  Speaker 1: to the younger generation what Jerry Rice.
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  Speaker 2: Is When we were just talking about preparation, and Jerry
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  Speaker 2: was the first round pick out of a small school
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  Speaker 2: in south and when he came to the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 2: he struggled a little bit in the first few days
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  Speaker 2: of practice, trying too hard. But the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: he did was he brought another level of practice to
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  Speaker 2: the team. So when you when you when you throw
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  Speaker 2: the pass, In practice, wide receivers are taught catch the
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  Speaker 2: ball turned ten fifteen yards up the field, then you know,
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  Speaker 2: come back, well, Jerry. The first time he catches a pass,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know it was forty yards, sixty, I don't remember,
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  Speaker 2: but he run and he runs to the end zone,
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  Speaker 2: and from that point on, every time he touched the ball,
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  Speaker 2: whether it was nine yards to the end zone or
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  Speaker 2: ninety yards to the end zone, he would run score touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of that team had to be like, Jerry,
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  Speaker 1: can you hurry out?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly what are you doing now? Our practices we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a time limit on practice. We had a play
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  Speaker 2: limit and we had to get through with these plays.
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  Speaker 1: So try hard. Jerry's running and you're like, oh, we're.
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  Speaker 2: So In the meantime, you ask yourself, is it a
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  Speaker 2: coincidence that Jerry's the NFL's touchdown reception leader of all
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  Speaker 2: time by a large number and people have had chances
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  Speaker 2: to try to catch him, but they just didn't have
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  Speaker 2: the the sustainability. He worked hard off the field all
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  Speaker 2: the time, run the hills. Yeah, it's just insane, and
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  Speaker 2: then it became contagious. It's like, so you thought about
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  Speaker 2: a JT. And Jt'd run in practice and you throw
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  Speaker 2: about a roge or hand it off and they eat
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  Speaker 2: and run. And then sometimes you see three of them
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  Speaker 2: running down there, right, and you forget, like the little
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  Speaker 2: things that you forget that happened. All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: we're playing the Rams and we're backed up. We're not
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  Speaker 2: playing well in LA and we usually played them well,
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  Speaker 2: especially down there. And we get the ball in the
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  Speaker 2: four yard line and I take three steps back to
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  Speaker 2: a seven yard slant to JT. He goes ninety six
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  Speaker 2: for a touchdown. But Jerry's all the way down the field,
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  Speaker 2: throwing a block for him to get him into the
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  Speaker 2: end zone. We get the ball in the six yard
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  Speaker 2: line that same game, same game, same three steps, same
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  Speaker 2: seven yard pass, ninety four yards for a touchdown Jerry
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  Speaker 2: this time, no again, and Jerry's down in the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Get throwing the buck to get JT in the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And so I like, I'm laughing after this is over.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'll never say anything to Jerry again because
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  Speaker 2: as a quarterback, and I have just known two passes
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  Speaker 2: ver what fourteen yards but into books it's one yards. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And so those things became contagious and his work ethic
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  Speaker 2: was just unprecedented when it came to that.
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  Speaker 1: The stories of him and Dion in practice, where Jerry's
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  Speaker 1: like the ultimate practice guy and Dion's like I do
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  Speaker 1: whatever I want and I'm better than everybody. That that
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  Speaker 1: dynamic must have been insane between us.
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  Speaker 2: Fortunately I wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I just I hear the stories. I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine because Jerry is so type A and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like Dion wants to challenge type A people all.
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  Speaker 2: The time the time. But when you're when.
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  Speaker 1: Your main guy works that hard, no one else has
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  Speaker 1: an excuse.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no one, Yeah, and and but that was the
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  Speaker 2: one thing, and that was the reason we were able
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  Speaker 2: to go in pad Liss was because that those efforts
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  Speaker 2: became on both sides of the ball. And so and
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  Speaker 2: if you weren't living up to it, that you had
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: somebody named Ronnie loting down.
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  Speaker 1: That's so funny. I was going to go to Ronnie
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  Speaker 1: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite athlete of all time is Brian Dawkins. My
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  Speaker 1: second favorite athlete is Ronnie Lot. I loved safeties that
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  Speaker 1: inflicted fear, and I have heard the pinky story a
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  Speaker 1: million times. How was that story told to you when
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  Speaker 1: it happened that your teammate cut off his pinky? Like,
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  Speaker 1: where were you when you found out that news?
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  Speaker 2: In the locker room? So you're in the.
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  Speaker 1: Locker room and it wasn't You won't believe what just happened.
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  Speaker 2: They just what they just did. And so but that's Ronnie,
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  Speaker 2: though Ronnie sacrificed anything.
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  Speaker 1: So for those who know, So I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: he had to cut it off.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, they gave him a choice. So
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  Speaker 2: he got stuck in the middle of the part of
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  Speaker 2: the face mask and it ripped, it was hanging on.
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  Speaker 2: They gave him the opportunity. Oh sorry, they getting the opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: So you can do one of two things. We can
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  Speaker 2: sew it back on. So this is middle of the
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  Speaker 2: game or is it part but I can't remember what
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  Speaker 2: part of the game. And they said we can sew
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  Speaker 2: it back on and put a glove on or something,
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  Speaker 2: and no, you can play in six weeks or so,
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  Speaker 2: or we can cut it off and you can play
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  Speaker 2: next week. So I'll play next week. So and now
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  Speaker 2: you know we were talking about my son, Jennifer, our son,
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  Speaker 2: our youngest Nicholas. Yeah, Ronnie's his godfather. Really yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: now you know where Nikki gets it from.
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  Speaker 1: So did you guys find out in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the game that he had done that or did you
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  Speaker 1: realize after the game?
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  Speaker 2: After the game? So Asa Monta knew before it joined
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  Speaker 2: the game, but I didn't find out.
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  Speaker 1: What was it like after like that week after the game, Like,
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  Speaker 1: did you go to right like Ronnie you didn't need
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  Speaker 1: to do that?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no you didn't. You didn't have to ask
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  Speaker 2: Ronnie again, Ronnie was Ronnie was a full speed, one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and ten percent no matter what, and he's going
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: to do anything. I said, Like, there's times like we
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: were walking. I was walking in the shower behind our
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: middle linebacker and I saw the huge, like bruise about
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: basketball size. I go, how do you get a bruise
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: that big on your back? He goes, Ronnie? Ronnie, He goes,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: don't stand around the pile because Ronnie has come flying
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: diving in unbelievable. He didn't care who you hit.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're doing a million Super Bowl predictions, not
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: who's gonna win, which we'll get to, but how do
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you when you're looking at an NFL game how do
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you evaluate the teams to come up with the decision, Like,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: when you're looking at these two rosters, what do you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: look at?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Well, there are almost two different teams, you know so
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: far far apart, and the defensive teams are both playing
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: well different styles.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Spagnolo aggressive Eagles, keep everything in front of you, total yep.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: And then you then you look on the offensive side
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: of the ball. You've got Mahomes run doing everything. They
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: run still run the ball well, and they mixing them
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: lot and it's gonna come down to Jalen You feel, Yeah,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I think that it's gonna have to play mistake proof ball.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: They're gonna have to run the ball. You know, they've
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: got to get Berkley going, and and if they can
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: keep the touches down amount down for Patrick, that I
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: think they got it. They think they got a chance.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: They're a good football team. So if you look at
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: them on both sides, more physical more, I won't say, God,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how they explain the Chiefs because
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: they're they are physical to a certain degree, but yet
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: they're agile, right, and so it's totally totally different plays.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: When I watch the Chiefs, I see a team that
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: when the moment arises, they always make the play.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So if it's third and long, we're blitzing everybody and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: our corners taking the perfect route to the quarterback. If
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: it's offense, sure it could be pat creating, or it
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: could be a perfect like counterplay to the running back
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that you weren't expecting. They always own the moment, and
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I have to imagine this because they've been there before. Yeah, Like,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sure on your third super Bowl it was it
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: was a lot calmer for you than it was for
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the other team, you know.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, although our third one was was a little
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: bit of a struggle whiles.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Oh well that was the high flying shootout.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. The fourth one
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: was with the twenty three was the tough one, gotcha
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: where we were playing Cincinnati. Yeah, and we came back
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: to from behind. Yeah, boomer boomers. But Sam Whitch was
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: my first quarterback coach in San Francisco, so we have
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: been friends, and it was like beating one of your
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: best friends.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: So that's what it feels like right now with the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Eagles and the and he read a little bit, who
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: do you have winning?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: It's hard to bet against the Chiefs, But honestly, I
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: think Philly has as good a chances as that. But
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I just I just find it hard to bet against Mahomes.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: And in the end, it's it's just too hard, just
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: too too hard.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: When when if Mahomes were to come to you and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: he goes, hey, man, like I just want you to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: know you're incredible all this stuff, what would you What
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: would you tell Mahomes just about how he's playing? What
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: would you share with him?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I would say, you just keep doing what you're doing.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Then you, I mean, you're obviously having tremendous success, but
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you're a hell a lot of fun to work.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: My last thing for you is in this discussion of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the greatest of all time and all that, how do
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you process that when your name is mentioned and all
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's hard, you know, I mean I totally understand,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you know, what Brady's were doing, has done, what Mahomes
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: is in the process of doing, and he's gonna end up.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: But it's really the eras are so different. I mean,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I always go back even further where you look at Graham.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like Auto Graham, like a little
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: level championship.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how do.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You That's like, you're right, so we're talking about the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: greatest NBA players and Bill Russell has eleven and we
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: don't mention them, but that's that's what his competition was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, totally.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And that's one of my favorites.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Johnny Unitas. How do you factor where Johnny, you's supposed
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to go the first guy to get up there and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: call his own plays. And then yeah, it's like, look
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: at the help Tom Brady had, look at what Peyton
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Manning had. Was that equal?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It's interesting to compare it. It's fun, it's fun to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: do for people.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: To And then my last question will be, you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Sunday when that stadium is bumping, what is that energy
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: like for you?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: You still really especially national anthem? And then right after that,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: it's just I want to ask you.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I have seen Chris Jones cry during the national anthem.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I have talked to a lot of athletes that have
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: told me it's the national anthem. Why is it the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: national anthem that causes the realization.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Because the s is about to hit the fan, maybe
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: it is time to go. This is what you've been
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: waiting two weeks for right, Normally you're in that week,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you're used to, bodies used to that week. This is
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: two weeks to get there, and everybody's ready to play.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: We used to have more fights in the second week
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of practice than any other time, the second week of
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl football practice, just because of frustration. Everybody's ready
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to go. And yeah, you know, you're just biding your time.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And so after this, what when that plays, you know
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the game's about to be I.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Also think it's like the first time that you stop moving,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: no one's reminding you of your keys, no one's talking
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: about anything, and you're just standing there just like a fan. Yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: standing at attention, hand behind your back. And then it's like,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: oh shit, yeh, here we go. It's time. And so
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: when you guys are watching the Super Bowl and you
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: see that, that's what's happening at that moment. Pretty cool man,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Joe Montana, one of the greatest to ever do it,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: one of the coolest men in the business. Thank you, brother,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you.