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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites of the Podcast presented by BET
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  Speaker 1: I am Chad Moment of the Action Network. Today. I'm
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  Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, my companion, my compadre,
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Chad. What a sports weekend, brother.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Draft was amazing and we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about that, no shortage of drama, and you
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  Speaker 1: and I we are going to go through the entirety
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  Speaker 1: of the league. We're going to talk about the NFC today.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow we're going to touch on the AFC a very
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  Speaker 1: special episode. It's going to come out a day earlier
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  Speaker 1: than usual. Thursday, we'll do an episode, our third episode
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  Speaker 1: of the week, about the Kentucky Derby, with our annual
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  Speaker 1: guest Mike Conti. But dude, I don't know about you. Like,
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  Speaker 1: for some reason, I ended up kind of having no
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  Speaker 1: plans this weekend, and so I watched a ton of
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  Speaker 1: the Draft, and then I watched so much NBA and
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  Speaker 1: these games were insane. The Clippers and the Nuggets was insane.
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  Speaker 1: The Pistons and the Knicks was insane. The Lakers and
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  Speaker 1: the Tea Wolves was insane, but also somehow I found
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  Speaker 1: myself watching the Cubs and the Phillies on Saturday, and
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs and the Phillies last night. It was like
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  Speaker 1: a full on sportacular.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's especially someone like me who was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a phony NBA fan, where I just because my team
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  Speaker 2: sucked the Sixers. I barely watch any but I mainly
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  Speaker 2: watched college basketball. But as soon as the playoffs hit,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we all just dive back in because
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  Speaker 2: that's when everyone's trying. The games are really competitive and
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  Speaker 2: it just means so much more and you really can tell,
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  Speaker 2: like the level of plays, so just such a huge
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  Speaker 2: step up. So yeah, for me, it's really fun. But
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  Speaker 2: I know is like someone that tries to bet it.
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  Speaker 2: It is crazy jumping into it trying to especially you
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  Speaker 2: know the actually newhere. We have a ton of basketball content.
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  Speaker 2: We've been trying to bet these overtime bets. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like fifteen to one, sometimes twenty to one. That
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  Speaker 2: to me has been really fun sweating these games. Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't pick a side, I'm just betting overtime and
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  Speaker 2: hoping to hit one in every series. So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: been really fun.
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  Speaker 1: The athleticism of these guys is ridiculous, and like even
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  Speaker 1: the third fourth level guys. The ability their hands are
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  Speaker 1: so good in this interior passing and the way these
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  Speaker 1: guys can see and they move the ball like it's
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  Speaker 1: just remarkable, like you cannot help but love watching it.
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  Speaker 1: And the level of competitiveness is so intense, like like
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  Speaker 1: that Piston's next game yesterday or watching it on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: actually so glorious. I really wanted the Knicks to lose,
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  Speaker 1: like I love this's team. It's so much fun. I
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  Speaker 1: kind of wanted the Lakers to beat the Tea Wolves,
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  Speaker 1: but Anthony Edwards is just glorious to wash like we are.
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  Speaker 1: We are in it right now. Steph Curry the other night,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, like his step backs, the way he
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  Speaker 1: can put on the brakes. He willed that team to victory.
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  Speaker 1: It is. If you're not watching the NBA plass right now,
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  Speaker 1: you got to get into it. But we are going
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  Speaker 1: to get into the NFL drafts because here's how crazy
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  Speaker 1: and fun the NFL Draft is. Thursday night, we were
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  Speaker 1: watching the Pistons Knicks in my house and even my son,
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  Speaker 1: who's a massive NBA fan wanted to turn on the
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  Speaker 1: first round of the NFL drafts, and I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it was because of Shador Sanders, which we're
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  Speaker 1: restrictions apply, all right, I mean, look, there were there
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  Speaker 1: were players that dropped, right Will Johnson injury, Mike Green,
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  Speaker 1: the linebacker from Marshall, there were some questionable character issues,
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  Speaker 1: so he fell to the Ravens. But there's only one
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  Speaker 1: story here, shardor Sanders shadrourw Sanders dropping. We talked about
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  Speaker 1: this last week with Raybon and Evan. How did this
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  Speaker 1: impact your bets seeing how he dropped?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I lost money on it. I thought, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the over, I like the over two and a half
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks first round, and you know, it just goes to
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  Speaker 2: show that I think you kind of got to tell
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  Speaker 2: on what people you can kind of trust and follow
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  Speaker 2: in the sports media that give out these mocks. I
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  Speaker 2: just don't understand how these people it's their jobs and
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  Speaker 2: you had people saying he was their top five guy,
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  Speaker 2: their number one quarterback on their draft board, Let's do
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  Speaker 2: one in the fifth round. So there's clearly a disconnect there.
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  Speaker 2: Like I I can't wrap my head around that part
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  Speaker 2: because it's like I get a lot of it. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of these people are phonies and they don't really
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  Speaker 2: talk to anybody, but like, how could you, how could
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  Speaker 2: you have been so off? And you know, typical fashion,
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  Speaker 2: the stories come out after right chat, It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Apparently he wore headphones to meetings at the combine when
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  Speaker 2: he's meeting with teams with music playing on his headphones
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  Speaker 2: and then puts it around his neck while the music
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  Speaker 2: keeps playing while doing the interviews with these teams. I
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  Speaker 2: can't wrap my head around that's real. If that's real,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. Truly is insane that he was self sabotaging
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  Speaker 2: because there's teams he didn't want to go to where. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, it's a business, it is a sports league,
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  Speaker 2: but if you take them to court, they say entertainment first.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the collusion. I know Chad knows, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know about the collusion, but something went on. Like this kid,
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  Speaker 2: anyone could tell you he's got second round talent at worst,
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  Speaker 2: right his arm talent. Things you can do in the field, Okay, personality,
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  Speaker 2: bump them down to a third round chat, I'll give
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  Speaker 2: them that. But for this kid to drop to the
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  Speaker 2: fifth round, you know, he must have just burned a
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  Speaker 2: ton of bridges and the league humbled them. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I love the historical data, dove it right in. I
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  Speaker 2: asked myself, who is a great fifth round quarterback? Chat?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you could think on one for
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  Speaker 2: a second. I got an answer for you. It's zero.
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  Speaker 2: It's never happened in the NFL. So I'm excited for
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  Speaker 2: him to prove these teams wrong and write his own
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  Speaker 2: story or he's going to fall apart, be a wash
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  Speaker 2: out of a league of three four years and these GMS,
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  Speaker 2: these teams were right. So really interesting storyline to file
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  Speaker 2: for the next three four years out of what Sanders
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  Speaker 2: is going to become.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look the meltdown, the meltdown for lack of a
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  Speaker 1: better term, of Kuiper and watching him kind of get
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  Speaker 1: angrier and angrier as the days went on, of how
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  Speaker 1: Shador Sanders was dropping when he had him as QB
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  Speaker 1: one from the beginning and never wavered. And he actually
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  Speaker 1: talked about this because I like, it was riveting to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I think by I don't know what it was
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  Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, I was watching the draft at this point
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  Speaker 1: only to see where Shudor Sanders was going to go.
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  Speaker 1: And it's kind of like when everybody was watching the
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  Speaker 1: second round of the NBA draft last year to see
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  Speaker 1: what happened to Bronni. When Shador Sanders finally got drafted
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  Speaker 1: in the fifth round went on air and said, these
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  Speaker 1: are the number of quarterbacks from the fifth round who
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  Speaker 1: have ever made the Pro Bowl. Something to that extent.
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  Speaker 1: The number was zero. It was like in the third
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  Speaker 1: round you had like sixteen, and the.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth round of comally it's freak.
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  Speaker 1: Seventeen even in the sixth round because of Brady, but like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, zero in the fifth round, and you really
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  Speaker 1: got to look at this. The NFL, for all of
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  Speaker 1: its failings, and we've talked a lot about the inability
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  Speaker 1: to accurately scout quarterbacks. It is rare. The reason why
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  Speaker 1: everyone talks about it when a Puka Nakua comes out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere, when a Tom Brady comes out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Because those are the exceptions. Shdor Sanders is going to
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  Speaker 1: have to defy tremendous odds to get on that field
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  Speaker 1: and be effective and be the player that everyone thought
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  Speaker 1: he would be in all of their mock drafts. Kudos
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  Speaker 1: to Evan and Raybond who, throughout their draft podcasts they
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  Speaker 1: were saying this guy is not a first round talent.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't saying he was a fifth round talent. But like,
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  Speaker 1: this is not a guarantee that just because he's going
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  Speaker 1: to a team that might be the right fit for him,
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  Speaker 1: that he's going to get a chance to be the
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  Speaker 1: guy everyone thought he could have been when they were
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  Speaker 1: mocking him to go in the first round.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I told you months ago, I had Scott
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  Speaker 2: tell me this guy was the second round talent. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't tell me he was off their draft board. Like
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  Speaker 2: that was the thing that was the most shocking. It's
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  Speaker 2: like the day after everyone's like, no, the half these
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  Speaker 2: teams did have this guy is a top you know,
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  Speaker 2: four round picks. Some had them off his their draft board.
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  Speaker 2: It's like who had them off his draft board? Like
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  Speaker 2: he had to have self sabotage? Yet I just none
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  Speaker 2: of it. Nothing else makes sense where it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I try to look go through and think of that,
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  Speaker 2: who are the cockiest personalities come out of the last
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  Speaker 2: ten years, Like that's what I was trying to think of.
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  Speaker 2: Who would go in there and be such an asshole
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  Speaker 2: that they were just like I don't care the talent level.
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  Speaker 2: I'm downgrading this kid. I'm not nobody exactly the thing
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  Speaker 2: that's exactly like the only ones I could pop my head.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, even if Joe Burrows cocky as shit. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't an asshole, He wasn't ignorant about it. He wasn't
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  Speaker 2: going to these meetings being like I'm hot, shit, I
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  Speaker 2: don'm not. I'm not even taking an interview with the Bengals.
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  Speaker 2: I'm too good to go to Cincinnati. You didn't hear
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  Speaker 2: any of that with Joe, even though you know he
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  Speaker 2: could come off his arrogant to a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a fine line, and you know
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  Speaker 2: he had the talent obviously to back it up, where
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  Speaker 2: these teams are saying to say ers, you do not
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  Speaker 2: have the talent to back up your personality. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be a hot topic chat for the
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  Speaker 2: next couple of years just because everyone obviously had an
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  Speaker 2: opinion on it when it was happening. I'm sure you're
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  Speaker 2: the same way where part of you feels bad, but
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  Speaker 2: there's another part of you of he had to have
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  Speaker 2: brought the sun himself, like there's no other exp Like,
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  Speaker 2: these guys are trying to win. This is a business.
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  Speaker 2: So for all of them together to take a stand
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  Speaker 2: and say this kid's a fifth round pick, it was shocking.
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  Speaker 2: Like we just said, we all at worst I'll use
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  Speaker 2: the second round pick. He was three rounds later, Chad.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely the craziest storyline of the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, what's interesting about the NFL, and what's interesting
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  Speaker 1: about NFL owners is the tolerance for criminal misbehavior, violent
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  Speaker 1: misbehavior versus their tolerance for attitude misbehavior, potential distractions in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room, Shegar Sanders, cocky, arrogant, you know, distraction,
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  Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, distraction. But how many players get drafted, how
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  Speaker 1: many players get second chances, how many players are atop
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  Speaker 1: anybody's draft board after egregious criminal mistakes, right, And so
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  Speaker 1: you can see what the line is for NFL owners.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want anyone who is going to make noise
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  Speaker 1: and challenge them from a personality perspective, But they don't
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  Speaker 1: mind people who are going to challenge what are considered
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  Speaker 1: to be the appropriate ethics and beliefs that they should have.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very interesting study. There's no denying it. Like
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  Speaker 1: where owners fall on the line of challenging personality versus
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  Speaker 1: challenging criminal behavior.
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  Speaker 2: There is, But it's because of the money. Brother. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: like I love Tim Tebow, you can't have Tim Tebow,
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  Speaker 2: But be your third stringer. That's why Tim Tubo was
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  Speaker 2: at the league. Who wants to hear about your third
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  Speaker 2: shrink quarterback all the time? So I get what you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about. But at the end of the day, you
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of these guys do have personalities. They
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  Speaker 2: just the money so insane. They know, right, don't say shit,
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  Speaker 2: just play the play the game. So you know, the
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  Speaker 2: only guy that really can say shit is Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 2: because he's on his way out, he can be a
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  Speaker 2: little crazy talk about doing drugs and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: In the off season. You ain't never gonna hear any
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  Speaker 2: of these young guys talking about that stuff, Chad. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just I can't get over how how that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Like you said, the whole meltdown on TV with Mel,
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  Speaker 2: it was theater. It's it's what we love is humans.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's crazy to watch.
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  Speaker 1: It was such good theater. Yeah it was. It was glorious.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what good from Mel, like good for
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  Speaker 1: Mel that he stuck to his guns and he's done
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  Speaker 1: this in the past. Look, there's that infamous scene with
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  Speaker 1: Bill Pollion when.
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  Speaker 2: They they're gonna say Jimmy Clawson that's even that's more recent.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, obviously, but but no, I remember Jimmy Clawson
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  Speaker 1: and he's saying this guy should make eight Pro Bowls
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  Speaker 1: and whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But he said, you quit, You said he would, right, tire.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. But what's interesting is like mel is an
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  Speaker 1: affable guy. We love melt We've had him on the
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  Speaker 1: show and I think he's fantastic and what he's done
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  Speaker 1: with the dress is amazing. But I love that he
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  Speaker 1: will be stubborn on certain things and this is a
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  Speaker 1: relationship business and he does not back down from it,
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  Speaker 1: and he cannot be challenged by anybody for his opinions
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  Speaker 1: because he's been right so often and he created what
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  Speaker 1: has now become this massive, massive industry of covering the
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  Speaker 1: draft and being mesmerized by the draft. And I love
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he has been pounding the table on
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  Speaker 1: Shudur Sanders. I don't care about Shouldrew Sanders' success or failure.
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  Speaker 1: I am interested to see if Shudrew Sanders can make
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  Speaker 1: Mel Kuiper look good, because that, to me, is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a storyline that is going to be relevant
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  Speaker 1: until it's decided. And the way these things go, look,
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  Speaker 1: Geno Smith, his career becomes career until he was ten
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  Speaker 1: years in. So in ten years mel Kuiper might long
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  Speaker 1: be retired and he can finally be proven right about Shuldress.
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  Speaker 2: Sanders Well, I said, say, and he's ceiling with Gino Smith.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know how much that's winning
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  Speaker 2: mel Kiper. The at the end of it, if it
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  Speaker 2: is a Geno Smith type, it's like, all right, way
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  Speaker 2: to go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because he does have that list of
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  Speaker 1: players drafted who were who slid down the board, who
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  Speaker 1: he had as much higher ranked players. Geno's on there,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Clawson is on there. I think there were eight
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  Speaker 1: guys on there, and six of them have gone on
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  Speaker 1: to really productive careers. Two of them Jimmy Clawson and
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  Speaker 1: somebody else did not. And he's got one more guy
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  Speaker 1: on there, Will Levis, who you know, it remains to
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  Speaker 1: be seen, but it's not looking good. That wasn't on
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  Speaker 1: the list. And to me, like, I don't know, Geno's
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  Speaker 1: done okay, like he's had a good few years. I
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  Speaker 1: think that our are sort of seen in a better
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  Speaker 1: light because of where he came from. And so you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the Raiders for the show tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that they'll be in a good position.
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  Speaker 1: But no one's looking at the Raiders. It's like a threat.
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  Speaker 1: And so if Shadr Sander's going to be a guy
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  Speaker 1: who is good enough to make a team win some games,
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  Speaker 1: but never a threat, We're gonna find out. But it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a great story and it's why this league
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  Speaker 1: is so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: Give them hard knocks, Oh.
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  Speaker 1: God, that would be amazing. There's you know, there's all
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  Speaker 1: those goofy rules about hard knocks, but who knows if
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  Speaker 1: they're eligible for hard knocks. But if the NFL knows
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  Speaker 1: what it's doing, which it definitely does as an entertainment entity,
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  Speaker 1: they will figure out how to fix those rules. So
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland is one hundred percent in hard knocks again. All right,
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  Speaker 1: I want to get to team by teams here, NFC
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  Speaker 1: East start with the Giants. You know, they had Abdul Carter,
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  Speaker 1: great pick, everyone's you know, saying it's a no brainer,
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  Speaker 1: number three overall edge rusher from Penn State. Then this
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  Speaker 1: is where it gets exciting, right. They they trade back
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  Speaker 1: into the first round and they go to get Jackson Dart,
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  Speaker 1: a guy who was clearly gonna sit this year behind
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  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and James Winston. So did Brian Dayball and
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  Speaker 1: Joe Shane just draft a guy they'll never get to develop.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Brian might stick around. It is a
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  Speaker 2: question about the GM, especially the whole story about his
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  Speaker 2: kid was putting up Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't true, though, That wasn't true. Oh really, Oh
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  Speaker 1: you didn't see Oh no it was. This is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: This is another thing like Jeff Ulbrick, the former interim
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  Speaker 1: coach for the Jets, now the defensive coordinator for the
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, left his iPad accessible for his kid. His
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  Speaker 1: kid got the number and pulled the prank and then
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  Speaker 1: admitted it over the weekend and called the Sanders family
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  Speaker 1: to apologize. And let me just say this, I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was a bullshit, low class, dickhead, amateur hour cruel move.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: You don't like prank calls.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I love prank calls. I do like I used to
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: listen to The Jerky Boys and CD on the way
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: home from driving to from Chicago to Bloomington and back
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: and Bloomington back to Chicago. Loved it. Huge Jerky Boys
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: fan obviously love when Stern does his prank calls, all
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But I think there's a difference
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: here between dor Sanders, who was clearly as arrogant as
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: he is, was actually trying to handle the whole draft
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: situation with dignity and being open about it and standing
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: in front of the camera and making statements and communicating
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: with fans. He could have gone into a hole, and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you know, while he's living his life out loud when
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: he's successful, decided I'm not I need my privacy when
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I don't. He didn't do that, and instead these Edia
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: kids act like fucking dickheads and try to be funny
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and take a challenging moment for Shudor Sanders and make
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: it worse. I just thought it was bullshit. I didn't
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: even watch it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: My kid asked me last night at dinner if I
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: had watched it, because he had told me about the apology.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't even watch it, Like, I just
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it made me uncomfortable. It felt like it was voyeuristic
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and they were dicks. That's how I felt.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: As always, humor is subjective. I am a fan of
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: all prank calls. I an't gonna be on my deathbed
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: call me up, prank call me anything. I don't care.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm still glad that the youth's still doing
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: it because it's I thought it was a dying art, right.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I mean in my youth, Chad, the amount of time
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: we just spent a Friday night when I was in
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: eighth grade or seventh grade. It's different. These kids are
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: twenty one. Chad's write their psychopaths. But the fuck up
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: was they videotaped themselves. Don't. Yeah, that's the issue with
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the youth today is they don't. They're too stupid in
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: that part. But yeah, prank calls. I'm about it. So yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that's what differ.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Listen, I love prank calls.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I know your father, you're thinking of it from like
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: your this is your kid from I don't. I don't
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: give a fuck fuck them kids. I don't have kids.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So I am the other way where it's like I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: loved it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Uh, And I can't believe I have to be out
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: every year there's prank calls defending Shador Sanders. I don't like.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I don't care about his success in the NFL. I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: just thought it was a loser move.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: That's all I'll give back the Giants, Giants to.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Let me get you. Let me let me say this
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: about the Giants, the Giants, because I do want to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: make sure people have their odds to win the NFC
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: East right now plus twenty eight hundred, twenty eight to one.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love their draft, Like I always want
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: to shit on the Giants just because it's been easy
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: these last couple of years. But for this division, they
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: had my favorite draft, and it's it's just a draft
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: of hope and they have not had that in New
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: York in a long time. And because no one really
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: like a lot of guys, I know, especially in the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: area I live in, a lot of Giants fans, none
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: of them really believed in Daniel Jones like they had
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: high hopes his rookie year. I remember his first game
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: against Tampa. It was insane how good he was and
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: end up being probably one of his best games of
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: his career, which was his first start ever against Tampa.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: And he never really gave him hope, where you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Dart easily could be a bust. You know, this kid
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: has a lot of upside, but he has a lot
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of game to him where you're just like, this is
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: not going to translate to the NFL. I mean the
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: kids in a division with Dak Prescott, a guy who
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I know people left it dead. He was second in
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: MVP voting just two years ago. He's got a Super
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Bowl MVP inis division, Jalen Hurts, and then he's got
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: arguably the best rookie we've ever seen in Jade Daniels.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It's really tough right now for Giants fans, So to me,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: this was a win for them. You have a lot
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: of pieces here that I really like. Carter my number
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: one player unlike graded for this draft. They got him
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: as an edge rusher. I hate that, Like he's gonna
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: be so tough to face in this division. So yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: great draft by New York. Would not touch their odds
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: for them winning this division. I think you're on the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: same boat.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Well, so let's go to another wildcard there, which is
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys who meeted a wide receiver, didn't get one
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: in the first round, needed a running back, didn't get
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: one in the first round. They needed some offensive line help.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: They reached for a guard at number twelve, the kid
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: from Alabama. And you know, clearly Jerry is trying to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: recapture that magic of drafting Zach Martin. But the Cowboys,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: who are what is that three to one? Basically? I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think I'm seeing yeah, seven to one, you're seeing seven
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to one.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, seven to one for the division, I said something different.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you're right, seven to one. Uh. They're in
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: an interesting spot because Dak will be back, but they
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: still don't have a running back.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: We'll see. I love Blue, a kid they drafted at Texas.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be interesting what type of back
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: he is. He's gonna be CJ two K, this incredible
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: fast scatback, or is he just gonna be a random
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: third down guy they bring in because he's too small.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: He just doesn't know how to block too like well,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: like that that could be him. But yeah, like you said,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: they they could have taken one higher up. They waited
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: to what pick nine something like that to take this kid. Yeah,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. I I liked how they
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: started though. I liked that they went offensive guard. They're
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: attacking the offensive line, which they need to do now.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Like you said, they've lost all these Hall of Famers
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: across this last two years. It's it's a position of need.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So I know it sucks, right, people are hoping they're
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: gonna take a receiver there, which they just didn't grade out.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: The receiver is high enough to take them there, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that's that's how it is. When you're looking, you're a
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: big board in. You know, they went after the edge
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: in the next round, so that's good. But yeah, what's
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: is the team we're going to dive into a lot
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: this summer. I just love the value on this Cowboys team.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, you've bet the Cowboys on this spot.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so yeah, they're they're they're right now for me,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the to me, the best value in this division. They
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: were eight to one Mechad had a live show what
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: was that like a month ago? Now they're down to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: seven to one and most books are six to one
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: at some book. So it's just a team that pros
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: are going to bet. In the public, they'll just stay
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: away because they had a year from hell last year.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I think that's the only thing you said at the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: live show in the entire show was bet the Cowboys
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to win the NFC East that how did you feel
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: about the Eagles? Let's talk about the Eagles. Yeah, everyone
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: loves what how we did? Everyone thinks hiw he's a genius,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: like getting another player that he feels like they need
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: at linebacker. Did you have thoughts?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Eagles minus one sixty right now, bet thrus is
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: five to win this division and coming in this draft,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I honestly it's I think most Eagles fans at this
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: point of we think we have the greatest football team ever.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: There are no weaknesses. What could we do to make
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: this team better? So going in, I was just hoping
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to go tight end or some type of d end.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And yeah, Jahad Campbell the kid they took in the
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: first round, stud linebacker from Alabama. Typical dumb fan, I am.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I know very little about this kid. What the hell
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: do I am? I watching tape on Alabama's linebackers. No,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: so I've dove in on him, love him. Find out
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he's from timber Creek, like literally twenty minutes away from
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: me here in South Jersey. So he's a local kid.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Stud doesn't need necessary play linebacker, can be an edge player.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: So you know how he does it? Once again, how
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: does this guy fall right into his lap? Trades up,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: which I want to bet, which I did not deserve
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: to win. I'd made a bet that Eagles would trade
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: up because I had info that how he was going
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: to try to move up, and apparently he was getting
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: rejected for an hour by every team trying to trade up,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and he saved my ass trade up one spot for
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: me to win that bet fifth round pick, and yeah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you know it's it's a team that how he clearly
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: loves our offense. He took I think it was five
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: straight defensive players in this draft, so there's certain things
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I like about teams doing that, and like, I think
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: our offense has zero weaknesses attack the defense, and that's
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: exactly what he did. So once again, how most people
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: are giving him the classic A A plus, I'll give
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: him a bat plus.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He did say something interesting about Dallas Goddard. He's part
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of the team for now. What is that about?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I think he stays. I think they were going to
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: try to move him, but the tight ends they wanted
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: got taken, and they basically because this was a really
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: good tight end class and it just didn't work out
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: with the board. And he's got a one year deal.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: How he doesn't really like playing playing guys on the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: team on a one year deal, So that's why I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked if they don't move him, I would
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: not like to me. I know he does get injured
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: when he's out there, tests so much trust to him,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: especially on third downs, which is like we talk all
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the time. If you have the right guy on third downs,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it changes the whole dynamic of your team. So I
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: hope they keep them Chad because they didn't address the position,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: but still would not be shocked ause how he just
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: has a weird thing about keeping guys on one year deals.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Last team in the NFC East Washington two to one,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: maybe two twenty to win the division. I don't have
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a strong opinion about their drafts. I don't know that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: they did anything to immediately vault them any higher, any
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: closer to the Eagles, and they didn't lose ground to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The key for them is they got Jaden Daniels,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and now what can they do to improve their defense.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know that they did anything spectacular to help themselves.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: No, and there are Yearly so another team I would
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: not touch. Their odds is they should be closer to
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: plus three fifty plus four hundred for this division than
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: they are. They're just they're just beloved by everybody. People
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: are making Jamie Daniels the top five quarterback already in
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: this league, a guy who's played one year. So that's
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: just stay away from them. And you know, this draft,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: they had five picks. What are you going to do?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Not much I am going to use you know, go great,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: got offensive tackle at pick twenty nine. Love it like
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: that's what they should be doing. Yeah, it's ten year
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: plan now with the quarterback that they have, you were
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: thinking ten years now every draft you should be thinking
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: ten years. So yeah, I like this Washington team, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: nothing no value here for me, divisionally imbenting on them.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: One of the great anecdotes from the draft was Cliff
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Kingsbury leaving a note for the Washington GM on his
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: door that just says, stop by, please take Oregon left
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: tackle Josh Connolly. Who's the guy they took from Oregon?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: So good for them. Let's talk about the NFC West
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers made a very important pick in the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: seventh round of the draft, which to me says everything
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: we need to know about how serious they are when
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it comes to keeping Brock Purty. Are you ready?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: They chose Curtis Rourke, Indiana University starting quarterback in the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: seventh round. To me, that clearly says we're not messing
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: around with Brock Purty. We're going to recreate the seventh
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: round magic and they're gonna bring Curtis Rourke into the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: starting lineup replacing Brock Party when he wants his sixty
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: five to seventy million a year, they're gonna be like, eh,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: we got the winner who took the Indiana Hoosiers to
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the college football playoff.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: As just say, the only reason you draft this kid
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: is he's a winner and he's smart. That's what That's
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: what they're saying themselves. So yeah, the their draft Chad
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: just what I talked about earlier. It's they went in
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: with a plan. They attacked the weakness of their team.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: What is the weakness right now the forty nine ers,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: it's that defense. They have a whole total overhaul of
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: this defense. So yeah, they started with an edge, a
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: D tackle, D lineman dB D lineman Like that just
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: shows you exactly what they're playing. Was there just to
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: attack that D line and attack what they think is
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: weakness ran on their team is that defense? So yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: not much to say of the forty nine ers. Yere
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: plus one forty five don't like that value at all.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I think they're overrunder win totals like ten and a half. Yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I can't do it. So yeah, interesting team coming into
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: this season. Yeah.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: They went Michael Williams, is it mkal or Michael Edge
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: rusher from Georgia. Then they went defensive tackle, then they
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: went linebacker, then they went cornerback, defensive tackle. They had
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver, a running back, like a safety. They
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: basically just rafted all defenders other than Curtis Rourke future
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback. The Rams in a while plus win sixty
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: five to win the division. There was a lot of people.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: There were a lot of people who were like, will
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the Rams go after Shadoor Sanders? It felt like, you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: they need that pick, they need a guy who can
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: back up Matthew Stafford. Were you surprised at the Rams draft?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Kind of a quiet draft, like they weren't aggressive, they
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: traded out. Were you surprised at the Rams draft?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: No, because all the whisperers you hear is that they
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: actually like Dart and that if you look they traded
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: out right after you got taken and they trade out
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: for a ton, like that's a great trade by getting
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: out of there getting a first round pick, for next year,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: which we talked about before the draft. I think next
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: year is a really good draft class. So if that's
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the route that they want to go with McVeigh, they're
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: going to have opportunity. But yeah, this whole draft that
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: kept trading down, and yeah, this is a team that
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you know, one of those front offices I just trust
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and everything they do. Like they hadn't had a first
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: round pick for years and they finally did get one.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: You know, they had the best defensive player of the
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: season last year and first so yeah, this is a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: team that you know, I wouldn't bet them at this
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: point plus one sixty five. They were plus two hundred.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It's come down. I'll wait. This is a slow starting team.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: We have the history on it. Every year they start
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: slow and then they figure out if this season is
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a long So yeah, we just have to trust this team. Right,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it's McVeigh in this front office. I assume they nailed
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the draft, but if we look at these pieces on
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the draft board, I got no.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Clue, right, I mean, it's a lot of sort of
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It wasn't shiny, spectacular, explosive players. It was a lot
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of continuing to build depth for the Rams. In all
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the places where they like to build death. They're building
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: depth at tight end, they're building depth across the defensive line,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and look, they've been brilliant at it. We saw it
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: last year. If they think, all right, we can get
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: through one year with Matthew Stafford and then next year,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: if we've got two picks, we can package trade up
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: get one of the top quarterbacks coming out of the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: draft that could put him in a really good position.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Totally agree with you. It's interesting to me. It makes
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: me feel better about the Giants loving Jackson Dart that
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay like Jackson Dart so much. Arizona Cardinals plus
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: five point fifty to win the division. We talk about
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: guys dropping, We talked about trade or we talked about
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Mike green Will Johnson, who they took in the second round,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the cornerback from Michigan. He dropped because of an injury.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: But people are loving this pick, talking about him having
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: all pro potential that you don't often get in the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: second round. Are we more enthusiastic about the Arizona Cardinals
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah? This mean is the best Valus division. If you're
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: looking just divisional odds, well, you know, you can get
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: a plus five to fifty plus six on you shop around.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: To me, this draft, they needed to attack the defense.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Just say a couple of teams you've already talked about,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and they did, like first round pick de tackled then
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: like you said, will Johnson cornerback. Then they went edge,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: and then they went and then they went d back
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Like this is how they should have drafted, right. That's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the weakness of this team is their defense, for sure.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: So confidence in Kyler Murray every year it gets less
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and less. Chad, I think you're in the same boat.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: So this is a team where every year it feels
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: like it's a make or break career year for Kyler.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: We all know he's got the talent, he's got the tools,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: he's got the weapons offensively, no more excuses were over.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I think everyone's kind of over. I think Arizona is
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: about a year or two away from being over it
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: as well. So I love what they did attack the defense.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: You got a defensive minded head coach. He should not
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: have scout these players. So uh yeah, to me, best
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: value right now Arizona in this division.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Divisional odds Seattle six to one. They got Sam Darnold
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: they drafted Jalen Milroe. It can be interesting for a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: couple of packages a game. They really focused on the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: offensive line. That was the issue last year. We saw it.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: They couldn't stop anybody from getting to Gino last year
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and that ultimately became the achilles heel for the team.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: So the first thing they do they draft this guy,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: grays Abel, who's the guard from North Dakota State who
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Mel went crazy over. And it was a sort of
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: a non spectacular, non high profile names yet players who
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: if you look at draft experts, everybody loved what Seattle did.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: They loved they drafted high quality, high potential for need
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: on their team.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love this kid, you know. I've saw a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: couple of interviews with him. His personality as well, It's like,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: this is the exact kind of guy one on my
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: offensive line. He's got that personality for it and just
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: an absolute dog. But that's not going to fix their
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: issues the companies coming season. That the more I look
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: at their team, I'm excited to see what their defense
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: is going to be like in year two. But their
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: offensive line is terrible, and that's Sam Darnold's achille heels pressure,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: especially up the middle so great that they took a guard,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a guy who think is gonna be a good player,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: But they have a lot of holes to fix, and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I just don't think they did enough in this draft
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: to fix those holes on that offensive line.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Let's do the NFC South because we love Baker and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: last year, at this time, I think we were thinking
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the Bucks might be the worst team in the division.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Now they are the odds on favorite to win again.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: They chose a Mecca a Buka, the wide receiver from
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, which could just tell you something about how
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: they feel about Chris Godwin. They also chose a guy
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that we talked about last week on the podcast with
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Thorne Eystrom, who loved Benji Morrison, the cornerback from Notre Dame.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: They drafted him in the second round. And you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: if you want to talk, maybe I'm getting soft. You
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: loved the prank call of Obrook's kid to Shador Sanders.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I love the complete, total, genuine, authentic emotional response that
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Ben Morrison had when he was got when he got
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the call from the Bucks and was just full water works,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: full tears, joy, relief, pride, happiness with his family. That
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: to me was like those homecoming videos that you get
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: on TikTok where the soldiers come home and they're hugging
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: their kids and the kids see them and they freak out.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: That to me, what that was. I could just watch
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that all day. Go Bucks, Go Ben Morrison.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: And I would say just from the top, pretty interesting
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that they open at plus one ten for this division,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: like the fact that the books are giving them so
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: much more weight over Penix in Atlanta, which I think
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: is going to be the really Joe public team. So
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: that shows that early smart money's got to be Tampa, right,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: That's that's professional money here making that number what it is.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: And looking at this draft, like you just said, they
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: had to attack that secondary. That was their biggest weakness
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: last year. I know they had horrible amount of injuries
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: and at the end of the day though, they just
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: had a talent weakness at that position. Even their starters
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: before they got hurt weren't great. So the fact that
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: you know they're going after their cornerbacks, they're going after
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: d line and like you said, start out the top
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: with a wide receiver because you know Godwin is coming
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: off a major injury. Love it all, Chad and it's
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: just Tampa. Like we keep saying, it's incredible the organization
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: they are in this division where you know, as much
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: as we love shitting on this division, this is a
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Tampa team that is an expansion team has won multiple
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Super Bowls, and it's it's pretty incredible at this point
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: that Tom Brady, now, what is a year three since
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: he's been gone, and they've won the division two years
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: in a row since he's left, so really really impressive,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: And like Chad's basically saying, We're just gonna trust this
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: front office. They just keep making the right draft picks
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and the right moves.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Uh, speaking of Atlanta not understanding their moves for the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: second year in a row. Yeah, okay, Like they got
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: their their their edge rusher in the middle of the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: first round, and then they trade a first round uder
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the Rams, who basically fleeced them to get back into
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the first round and draft another EDG rusher who wasn't
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: even like the highest rated ED rusher left on the board.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's bizarre, especially where I love the Walker pick.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: It felt like that was a oh great, you guys
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: are attacking the edge, you need the ends. Great, Now
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I'll take another one in the second round. Maybe No,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: they traded back and they take another DN, which is good.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I liked the idea for their team, but like you said,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: it's really stupid value, especially where they have an unproven
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: quarterback in Penix being their starting next tray. I mean,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: they could shit the bed. This could be a top ten,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: top fifteen pick. So who bizarre move rams like we said,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: just the rich getting richer. Smart move by them. And yeah, overall,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: this is a team that need to attack the defense.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Like we talked about, they used their first four picks
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: attacking the defense. Their last pick, picked to eighteen, took
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: an old lineman. So yeah, this, like you said, plus
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: two to thirty plus two forty for them to win
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: this division. I'm not touching Atlanta. I just I don't
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: really trust this team, and I don't know how I
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: feel yet about Penix.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Is it truly in the year to say, all right,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: we're going in on the Panthers at plus four to
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: thirty five because they basically they addressed every need. They
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: needed a receiver for Bryce Young, they needed edge rushers,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: they did that. They needed help like along the defensive
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: line generally, they did that like they were great. They
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: were totally great. Love the Panthers if we believed in
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: them at the end of the year. We have to
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: believe in them. At plus four thirty five.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, like, this is the team we're
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: gonna love. And you know the fact that they were
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: plus five hundred, got bet down at plus four to fifty.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Now they're down to plus four to twenty five. It
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: makes sense. I think most professionals are like us. But
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: they're just gonna look at the team that they have
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: so much potential. And like said, this draft, they attacked
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: all the needs we talked about, right, They needed edge help,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: some dns. They wouldn't got two of them. The first
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: round pick is gonna be interesting. Chad like this kid McMillan,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: this fire receiver, like a couple of really bad clips
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: of them out there, him talking about he doesn't love football,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't like like doing the extra work right, reading through
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: the playbook. I think what he came out and said afterwards,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: he was just young and stupid and he was just
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: talking out of his ass. And I hope that's true,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: because shed all the time. It's easy to act like
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: you love this the great ones though they love it
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: and they put in the work and that's what you're
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: going to need, especially if you're going to be the
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: number one receiver of this team. So we're on the
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: same page. It's never to worry for us to show
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: our love on this Panthers and the fact that it's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: still above plus four hundred. I love that value right
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: on this Panthers team to win this division.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Look at Nick Saban, who I love had great comments
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: about this happens in every field. Just because you have
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: innate talent as a football player doesn't mean it translates
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: when you get to the higher levels. In the same
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: way you might have innate talent as a doctor. Doesn't
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: mean it's going to translate if you don't commit to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the process, if you don't do the work, if you're
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: not passionate about it, if you don't want to study
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: on a regular basis. You can be the greatest doctor,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the greatest football player in the world. There's very few
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: people who can get away with not doing all the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: stuff that it takes to elevate to the next level.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: And it can't be an outcome.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Orient the guy.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: If you're going to be productive, because you're going to
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: focus on what you need to do to get it right.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: And I think a lot of times when guys have talent,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: you just assume that they have that. Everybody's smart that
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: goes to medical school, but everybody doesn't make it through,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: and some that make it through don't make good doctors.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: So it's the same kind of thing with athletes. When
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: people are a process oriented and then they have a
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: discipline to execute it, that's when you get a talented
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: player who becomes a great player.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: But like I always love the story about young guys
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: who come in they see the veteran quarterback and how
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: eye open is and you know, Mahomes tells a great
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: story by Alex Smith where he was just like I
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: knew how hard I had to work, but seeing the
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: fact that he was always the first one in, last
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: one out, like really, it does instill into you. It's
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: like you want to be the best. The guy who
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: was already much better than you was putting in that
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: extra hours. Like we talk the time, the Kobe story,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Kobe going to the gym with the USA basketball team
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: at four or five in the morning. Lebron James couldn't
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: believe it. He goes, wait, you're practicing before our practice
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: and lifting, and that's when he realized, like that's what
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: it takes to be great. So yeah, it's it's really
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: interesting what did in this draft this Panthers team.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Saints went with Calvin Banks first pick, tackle from Texas.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: We had a long conversation about them in the podcast
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: last week where his position was going to be. He
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: was starting to get all this love. People thought he
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: might go before Will Campbell, who went forth over all
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. He did not. But what got interesting was
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: everyone thought Shed Sanders to the Saints was the exact
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: right spot, and then in the second round they draft that,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you know, eighty five year old quarterback from Louisville. So
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: clearly sand Sanders was never in there in the Saints
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: draft plans. There's seven to one right now to win
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the NFC South.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was reading about that kid, Tyler. I think
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: he's like twenty sixth a quarterback they took from Louisville.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Uhrathley my age seriously though, very bizarre, very bizarre pick.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Like I had said before, I know that he has
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: a ton of talent. It's someone who can never stay
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: healthy and like you know, has never proven to be
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: what he just got to draft that. So, yeah, the Saints,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I thought they had the worst draft in this division.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: But I think it's also just, you know, part of
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the deal with this Saints team. It's just they're going
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: to be doubted every step just because they've just been
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: a train wreck here this last five six years. So yeah,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: don't much have to say about the Saints team. Would
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: not touch them at plus eight hundred plus seven to fifty.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Ton't win this division.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Best division in football, NFC North Detroit Lions best record
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: in football last year, number one seed, did it with
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: masking tape on their defensive side, on the defensive side
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: of the ball. So what do they do? First pick?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: They draft a guy from Ohio State defensive tackle. Great move,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: but then they go offensive line, wide receiver, offensive line.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: They don't go back to the defensive line in an
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: edge rusher until the sixth round of the draft. They're
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: clearly smarter than we are. They are the odds on
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: favorite to win the division plus one thirty. At that
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: three sixty five, I'm not betting the Lions to win
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: this division.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: No, you know, we might overrate it a little bit
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: on this show how important coaching is, but there is
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: some truth to our madness and the fact they lost
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: such important key figures to this team from the defensive
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: side and the offensive side of the coaching position, we
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: have to hold it accountable. And you know, we talked
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: about this division. The worst odds are now are Chad's
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Bears a plus four to fifty, which is how crazy.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: That's how close this division is right.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Now, and we're betting the Bears.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Like you said, though, it's the best division of football.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: So I want to take a position on Detroit. I
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: don't think this is the spot to take it, especially divisionally.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: It's not a good number. And like you said, I'm
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: going to trust the front office. I like that they
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: attacked just the D line. The D line first pick. Great,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Now give me a couple offense alignment, right, keep building
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: on what that makes you guys so great? Which is
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: that offensive line. That's that's what it's all about. And
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: you know the whispers we hear about them moving on
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: from the wide receiver Williams, we don't know how true
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: it is, but they did take a wide receiver at
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: pick seventy. That's a big deal. So ye, you're right, like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: this is not a team we're gonna take a plus
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: one thirty. But I'm excited to see what they're gonna
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: be like without Ben Johnson. Like this is just a
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: team that oozes a crazy amount of talent. Can they
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: stop being cursed? Put it all together? Remains to be seen.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Packers plus two seventy five. Jordan Love coming back for
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: a full season healthy, and I do like what they
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: did here. After years of neglecting the receiver room generally
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and trying to patch together with with lower rated players,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: they went out and got a burner in Matthew Golden,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: who had dropped a little bit. A lot of people
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: thought he might be the number one receiving prospect, and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: they got him at twenty three. That's a weapon for
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love. I love this play. Still not the team
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I would bet to win the division.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate the number. I wish it was
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: plus three hundred plus two seventy five. It feels like
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: we missed the best of the number for this division.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: You know, love the golden pick. Green Bay fans bitching
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and moaning about them never taking talented receivers. You guys
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: drafted DeVante Adams. What the fuck you're talking about, Jordan Nelson?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: You drafted him as well. It's like you guys have
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: had some great draft picks. Your front office is just
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: smart taking them in the second third round. And you know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Golden here, you definitely slipped right. This is the guy
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: that lot of yeah for sure to be a top ten,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: top fifteen pick and maybe the first receiver off the board. Yes,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Speedster excited to see what the floor does with him
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: in different packages. You know, this is a team that
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: went receiver, offensive tackle, receiver. I love that start right,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: they're basically saying that and love. Okay, We'll we failed
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: you a little bit here. We've not gotten you the
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: weapons wide receiverally that we should have in these last
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: two three years. We're going to attack that position in
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: this draft. And you know, obviously they need Golden to
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: hit right. In this division, the difference between the number
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: one team and the last place team is so small.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be guys like this, this type of pick
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: that could change his division. So if Golden hits, he's
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: a Tyreek Hill type, you know, a sweetzer that can
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: stretch the field and open up the run game for
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs. It's our home run of a draft pick.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I get why Green Bays fans are so excited.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: How can you not be taking this kid with a
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: great name as well, Golden, I love it at pick twenty.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Three Minnesota Vikings plus four hundred Minnesota Vikings. Look, it's
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: basically JJ McCarthy was their number one pick because he'll
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: be starting this year. So they did the right things.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: They drafted a guard from Ohio State, Donovan Jackson, to
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: help protect him. They drafted a wide receiver from Maryland
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Future School for my younger son, Owen Millman, who has
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: decided to commit to Maryland. Uh, we're super excited about that.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Go Turps. Yeah, they did the things they need to
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: do in the first couple of rounds to give JJ
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: McCarthy a little bit more support. You're always gonna trust
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: their coach. I like the value at Minnesota at this number.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Don't like it as much as the Bears though, No.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't touch it. It's too much unknown with j J.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I'm excited. Obviously they got high hopes. This kid's a winner,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: but like we talked about him coming out, just never
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: had enough reps, never never had enough reps in college
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: of passing the ball, really having the offense on his back,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: so a ton of unknown you know, Koc, How can
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: you not trust this guy? He made Sam Darnold and
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: do one hundred million dollar quarterback and do a playoff
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: caliber quarterback. So yeah, to me, worst drafting division just
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: because they had no fucking picks. Man, They've had to
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: pick twenty four take a guard. Great, Now they don't
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: pick till one oh two like that. That's really tough.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they mortgage the future. They got the quarterback
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: from last year. Like you said, it's they're not They
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: don't care if they win this year. This is all
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: about setting up for the next two to three to
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: four years. So that from my standpoint, I'm with you.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I liked they went guard receiver. Nice way to start it.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this this to me was enoughing draft from Minnesota.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears plus four point fifty. There it is there,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: it is there. It look they sucker us every year.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: They truly do. They do, they really do. And so
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you know, credit to Ryan Poles and the front office
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: who win the off season so consistently that we cannot
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: help ourselves but pull the trigger.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Well, we were negative last year, Smartley, We were all
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: over the tread divisionally, and we were on the Bears
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: under win.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Total, so that's true.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: We're back on this year, though.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: We're so back on. I love the Loveland pick, you know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I'm raft. I'm all in him being Sam Laporta part
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: two for Ben Johnson Luther Burden, who going into the season,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: like a lot of people thought he might be the
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: best receiver in the draft. So the fact that he
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: dropped to the second round for the Bears and they
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: got him, and then they drafted an offensive lineman, a
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: six eight dude from Boston College Ye who will help
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: solidify the offensive line. That was a real issue obviously
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: for Caleb because he was sacked many times last year,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: partially his fault he should let the ball go sooner.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: We're gonna work on that, but they need defensive line help,
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  Speaker 1: and they kind of ignored it and just said, we
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: need to do everything we can to maximize the opportunity
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: for Caleb Williams to be successful. Recognizing how important and
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: how good the other quarterbacks are in their division and
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: in their conference, they need him to be great week one.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: This is the best opportunity to do that. So I'm
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: all in. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They also made a deal to Devil and Ben Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: They gave him a ton of money and you can
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: see in this draft that they let his imprint be
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  Speaker 2: known on this team. And I love the pick with Loveland.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I really thought they couldn't go wrong him
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  Speaker 2: or Warrener, you know, the kid out of Penn State,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: both great tight ends. Loveland's a freak. This kid could
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: be Gronk or like you said, Sam Laporta, that's that's
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the ceiling, you know the fact that they get this
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: kid out of Missoo and the next round and where
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: it's like, like Chad said, he's projected to be your
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: first round of Steve Smith loves this kid, like can't
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: stop raving about him. And then you know it's not
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: the sexiest pick, but I like this kid Turner you
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: got as an edge. I think he has some really
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: high upside. So overall, like to me, the Bears their
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: first fourth picks really knocked it out of the park.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I just I have so much faith in
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. If I don't really trust your your general
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: manager totally, I really do trust Ben Johnson and his
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: vision for building this team how he wants to. And
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: you can immediately see his imprint on this team right
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: from this get go with this draft.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we're in agreement. I want to be like
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: having to push you into the Bears.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, I'm man.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: This is fantastic. All right, we're gonna come back tomorrow.
• 54:06
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• 54:10
  Speaker 1: through and trying to find the value early value, division
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  Speaker 1: by division for these teams coming out of the draft.
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